On 15 Jun 2015 at 11:12, Willie2 via EV wrote:
> Can someone point me toward a better solution? 36v, ~10ah.
I used a Ping battery for a scooter after reading mostly good things about
them on Endless Sphere. Mine is still over 90% capacity after 3 years.
They're not really suitable for high po
On 16 Jun 2015 at 6:52, Ben Goren via EV wrote:
> Imagine if Ford made a ... 2017 electric Mustang ... The demand for
> *that* EV would be instant..
I guess that depends on how you define "demand."
You might indeed land some buyers. But you have to remember a salient
characteristic of most ge
On 16 Jun 2015 at 5:52, Paul Dove via EV wrote:
> A battery monitor is fine battery management should be avoided.
In the early days of the EVDL, we debated (sometimes pretty strongly) AC vs
DC motors and flooded vs AGM batteries. IIRC, though, there weren't many of
the AGM crew who said "forge
On 17 Jun 2015 at 8:17, Willie2 via EV wrote:
> I have a battery that looks to be a direct replacement coming from
> China. I don't want to fool with a battery that does not conform to
> the form factor of the original battery.
"Looks to be" sounds a little discomfiting. I hope you get what yo
On 18 Jun 2015 at 10:46, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
> I've written about this over and over... check my old posts. It mostly
> seems to be of no avail, so I won't repeat myself again. Anything I say
> is overwhelmed by the noise of the internet.
Lee Hart is one of the EVDL stalwarts. He's been here
On 18 Jun 2015 at 11:43, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
> That pack is very nicely top-balanced and I expect that many more BMSs
> that you are not even aware of in daily appliances such as power tools
> will all top-balance.
One more time. There is a really good reason that the only place you f
On 19 Jun 2015 at 23:00, Michael Ross via EV wrote:
> Self discharge would be where the capacity has not decreased, but the
> amount available in the cell is less - very hard to measure accurately the
> actual charge level with normal DIY instrumentation when the change is small.
Did you read Lee
On 19 Jun 2015 at 14:48, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
> I have tried to give input and set some of your claims straight, but I
> need to stop investing my time because I judge that it has become a
> waste of time since you appear not to listen to correction.
Cor, please remember that you're no
On 16 Jan 2016 at 0:22, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> Samsung SDI Co., the battery-making unit of the Samsung Group, on Monday
> showcased its latest battery cell for electric vehicles, which can run 600
> kilometers once fully charged.
That must be one heck of a HUGE cell. Lessee, the typical small
On 17 Jan 2016 at 19:48, lektwik via EV wrote:
> The technology you manage to put together in your "niche" car won't
> even come close to what Tesla (and other automakers) are capable of.
Probably not, but after more thought, I'm not so sure any more that that
really matters much after all. Th
On 18 Jan 2016 at 10:28, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
> > I'm in no hurry to start the EV project [until after I]
> > ... add more PV panels and batteries so I can go off grid,
>
> And why on earth do that? ... . It makes no sense when storage in
> the grid is basically free (in good Net-mete
On 20 Jan 2016 at 8:03, Mike Nickerson via EV wrote:
> You could have a 15A
> outlet with 20A wiring, but I wouldn't try to draw 16A from it. While the
> wiring could take it, the outlet isn't rated for it.
If you take two "commercial duty" receptacles apart, one rated 15a and the
other 20a, yo
On 20 Jan 2016 at 11:32, dovepa via EV wrote:
> One can measure the diameter of the wire to determine gauge
True. Also, once you've worked with solid #12 and #14 wire a few times,
you'll know by looking at it and/or bending it which size it is. Stranded,
it's a little harder to tell.
One wa
On 21 Jan 2016 at 9:36, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
> I wonder if there is a PLUG-IN heavier duty plug/socket combo. You
> plug it in once and then do your plugging and unplugging from it.
That's an interesting idea. It would probably be more expensive that just
changing the receptacle whe
On 22 Jan 2016 at 18:41, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
> Already one of the outlets of the power strip has failed, but it has 6
Manufacturers such as Hammond and Tripp-Lite make good industrial quality
power strips, but you won't find them at your local orange or blue big box
store. Folks who
Asia, especially Japan, has an anime-ish "cartoon mascot" culture. All
kinds of businesses have cartoon mascots, even "sober" ones such as banks.
So do public parks (and not just entertainment and kids' parks), serious
cultural festivals, business expositions, and public services.
For examp
On 23 Jan 2016 at 11:33, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:
>
> IMO, we should be glad that (at least from what I can tell) Toyota is
> finally actually positively promoting plugging in.
Actually I just watched the video clip again, and though the article talks
about anime charac
On 23 Jan 2016 at 16:00, Bobby Keeland via EV wrote:
> What is the link to the web page?
As it says right at the bottom of Audrey's message ;-)
http://www.greenshedconversions.com
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Oh, for goodness sake. Talk about limited applicability! This would be a
concern only for conversions of extremely ancient ICEVs. Detroit hasn't
used vacuum wipers since the 1950s or possibly the early 1960s. The last
car I rode in that had vacuum wipers was a 1950 Studebaker Commander. And
On 25 Jan 2016 at 18:01, Hoegberg via EV wrote:
> (my houses main fuses are 20Amp)
That seems like a very small amount of power for a house. You can't charge
2 EVs at once, if they have 3.3kW chargers, is this not so? Even charging
one 3.3kW EV would mean little power left for other uses in
On 27 Jan 2016 at 0:17, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> Lifestyle Product
Lifestyle Product - isn't that a contraceptive device? ;-)
http://www.lifestyles.com/
It amazes me that companies actually USE terms like this - capitalized, no
less - and they seem serious about it. Do they actually expect
On 27 Jan 2016 at 13:54, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
> There probably *is* a market for a true "City Car". A modern-day
> equivalent of the Ford model T that's very small, very simple, very low
> cost, and specifically meant for low-speed driving.
In that field, Renault Twizy is probably the one to
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On 30 Jan 2016 at 2:27, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> 2017 Cadillac CT6 Plug-In Hybrid To Be Imported From China To U.S.
IN the 1970s, some US automakers had their limited-sales small cars built in
Japan. In the 1980s and 1990s, they switched to Korean manufacturing. So I
guess this was inevitable
On 30 Jan 2016 at 18:31, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
> If you go light and I mean under 1000 pounds you can use less batteries
> .. The challenge is to make it safe. Racing has given the answer. 5
> point harnesses and airbags.
If you're homebrewing, or possibly designing a kit car EV, this
On 30 Jan 2016 at 18:31, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
> If you go light and I mean under 1000 pounds you can use less batteries ..
> The challenge is to make it safe. Racing has given the answer. 5 point
> harnesses and airbags.
If you're homebrewing, or possibly designing a kit car EV, this
> Is this an appropriate combination to feed the 6kw charger on my Leaf,
> using the OpenEVSE?
No, not really. The main issue is that it's a violation of the electrical
code to install that 3-pin 10-30 receptacle permanently in your house. All
new dryer receptacle installations since (IIRC) 1
On 31 Jan 2016 at 11:21, Lee Hart via EV wrote ...
... essentially what I wrote, but better and more succinctly. Thanks, Lee.
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On 31 Jan 2016 at 13:57, Gene Stopp via EV wrote:
> '74 SuperBeetle [for sale] ... I'm asking $15,000 ...
So are these guys:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nissan-Leaf-S-ELECTRIC-ZERO-EMISSION-REAR-CAM-
/371542956672
http://v.gd/HJiboQ
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nissan-Leaf-S-Hatchback-4-Door-/30185407
On 31 Jan 2016 at 18:26, Gene Stopp via EV wrote:
> With that in mind I think I'd like to open it up to "best offer", with no
> minimum. However I'm not sure how that works in an email list environment.
>
> Should I just give my personal email address for people to respond to?
Anyone actually on
On 2 Feb 2016 at 14:08, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
> How did you connect the diode on the power supply? Was it in series with the
> power input?
I'm not Dan, but I checked the wiring diagram which Alltrax provided with my
controller. It shows the traction battery power (in this case 36v)
connected
Thanks. I've been using an Alltrax in my Elec-Trak E15 tractor for over a
decade now. It's been rock solid. I'll be on the lookout for this, though.
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On 3 Feb 2016 at 0:04, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> Without access to vehicle charging, there is virtually no way for these
> residents to ever become part of the solution to significantly reduce
> air pollution or to create real personal savings by eliminating
> gasoline bills.
Except for the dozen
>From the "CWAA" department:
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/03/elon-musk-blogger-tesla-
motors-model-x
Elon Musk personally cancels blogger's Tesla order after 'rude' post
A Californian venture capitalist had his Tesla Motors Model X order
cancelled after he wrote about a badl
On 4 Feb 2016 at 8:00, Brandon Hines via EV wrote:
> I am amused that the blogger's defence was how super rude he was to
> another car company.
Read it again. That was MUSK's defense, such as it is.
I'm probably swimming against the current here, but I don't think this
reflects well on Tesla.
On 4 Feb 2016 at 12:39, dovepa via EV wrote:
> I disagree. Why do business with a person you expect to criticize your
> work?
Because that critic has money, and you want some.
Because other people have money, and you want some, but they might not buy
your product if you act like a jerk to cust
On 5 Feb 2016 at 15:17, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> I was considering buying an emergency flashlight that stays plugged in
> all the time ... I decided not to - until the Chinese develop a better
> reputation for putting a BMS in their lithium ion products.
For a cheap gadget like that (or even
On 5 Feb 2016 at 10:38, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
> I consider this a brilliant move from Elon.
Sorry, I stand my ground. Musk's response was far from brilliant, it was
just plain childish. A person of maturity and character would have stood
tall, maintained his dignity, better yet used a
On 6 Feb 2016 at 22:18, Paul Wujek via EV wrote:
> Does anyone have any thoughts on VW using 48-volt systems in planned
> EVs?
It's not an EV.
"British magazine Autocar reports the Golf will launch with a brand new, 48-
volt mild hybrid drivetrain made up of a gasoline-burning 1.0-liter three-
Is anyone surprised? This is exactly what the previous news stories were
designed to do. Whether you look at it as another "oily plot," or the media
doing their usual scandal-mongering to raise their ratings, or even the
power company looking to cause trouble, it's almost certainly someone's
On 9 Feb 2016 at 4:21, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> To be usable in the event of a replacement, a battery requires regular
> cyclising during its storage period, i.e. specific charging and
> discharging for the purpose of preservation. Otherwise it would suffer
> from deep discharging, which can lead
On 10 Feb 2016 at 14:43, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> Streaming has largely replaced listening over the airwaves, especially
> for Millennials.
I don't know about where you live, but around here, there are many places in
cities and towns where the mobile signals are irregular enough to make IP
On 13 Feb 2016 at 0:03, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> mild hybrids are electric vehicles? Feb 12, 2016 Dr Peter
> Harrop
>
> Wikipedia says no. Wikipedia is wrong.
Nope, sorry. Wikipedia is right. So called "mild hybrids," just like other
"hybrids" that never plug in, are not electric vehicles.
On 14 Feb 2016 at 0:12, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> ''Nickel is dirt cheap.
That's not what I hear.
> It is also toxic. So is cobalt,''
Oh goodie, another tiny pebble for the anti-EV folks to amplify into a
boulder.
Nickel does have some toxicity, but it's nothing like lead or cadmium, and
we
This piece claims to be a myth buster, but as a non-engineer and non-
electrochemist even I can identify some errors and myths in the article
itself. Am I wrong about any of these? What others have I missed?
On 15 Feb 2016 at 3:22, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> A decade ago nicad (nickel cadmium) a
On 17 Feb 2016 at 16:36, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> There have been a lot of past discussions on range extending. Trailers, small
> onboard chargers, etc. In my opinion, they are rarely justified
A battery trailer isn't exactly elegant, but it works. It lets you have a
small, light battery
On 17 Feb 2016 at 19:19, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
> Take a small personal hiking butane or propane heater.
> Sure, its fossil fuel, but nothing is more efficient at producing heat.
Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're referring to, Sebring-Vanguard tried
something like that in the old Ci
On 18 Feb 2016 at 0:53, Mr23 via EV wrote:
> Has anyone looked into getting a second leaf pack and using
> contactors/etc to switch between packs ?
I can't claim any particular expertise with this, so I defer to those who
have had their heads under the hoods of Leaves. However, if I were tryin
"Right now we're generating 2 kilowatts per hour at my house."
Good grief. Who wrote that script? Will his or her next one say that the
writer's ICEV's engine produces 250 horsepower per hour?
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On 25 Feb 2016 at 10:08, Craig M. via EV wrote:
> I have also observed that if the motor stalls, it draws very high
> current and the battery is soon fully discharged.
That's normal. Don't stall the motor. It makes bad things happen.
> To get home on a weak battery I have had to accelerate i
On 26 Feb 2016 at 22:06, rayfellow via EV wrote:
> The one that gets me are the RV (recreation vehicle) salesmen when talking
> about the house battery capacity will refer to it as 100 - or 200 - amp hours.
I don't know much about RVs, but I don't understand what's wrong with
stating battery cap
On 27 Feb 2016 at 8:56, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
> only falling from about 13v down to about 11v (deep discharge)
Are you talking on load or open circuit?
Normally 10.5v under load is considered flat for a 12v lead battery. Below
that voltage, the risk of cell reversal.increases.
Open
On 29 Feb 2016 at 11:37, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> % I do not have a cell phone, but I have been doing some research into
> getting one as I plan to do some traveling to check out other places that I
> might relocate to. Since I am a noob on this topic, I hope others with more
> knowledge/experienc
On 29 Feb 2016 at 11:37, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> Car-makers put all this tech into the vehicle, just to let it get old (then
> the owner has to pay to upgrade it).
I suspect that there are many reasons that automakers build "connectivity"
into their cars. Some of them are just competitive, as
I'm hardly an expert on these matters, but over 7000 cells in a battery?
Good grief. With the stupefying amount of labor that has to go into
assembling such batteries, I don't see how Tesla (or anyone) can ever build
an EV for the masses
By this I mean an EV that anyone can afford, with perform
Is there any reason you couldn't build a simple series-parallel stepped
contactor controller? A 3-step is easy; you divide the battery in two and
connect the halves either in series or parallel. A series resistor provides
a "creeper" speed for starting out. Some commercial EVs (Citicar/Comuta
If I'm wrong, I'm sure he'll post back, but I think that by "CD" the OP
meant the coefficient of drag, not current disposition.
The reason I say this is that he sent a post to the wrong address and it
ended up in the list's skip. I was trash-picking and found it. (That's a
joke. ;-) In that p
On 6 Mar 2016 at 17:00, TOM SHRIMPLIN via EV wrote:
> I want THE CD or even better, the CDA for that baby vehicle. Even a
> decent guess would help.
Isn't that exactly what Mike Nickerson posted? Maybe you missed it.
On 5 Mar 2016 at 17:35, Mike Nickerson via EV wrote:
> I found a source t
On 7 Mar 2016 at 9:07, Peter C. Thompson via EV wrote:
> The hard-wired chargers can use the plug of your choice - as long as the
> current capacity is sufficient.
I may be remembering wrong, but I think that adding a cord and plug to a
device approved for direct connection and not for temporary
On 7 Mar 2016 at 6:33, dovepa via EV wrote:
> http://www.evsource.com/tls_MK3.php
> These people appear to still sell them
Mark 3 != Mark 2, not even for very low values of Mark 3.
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On 7 Mar 2016 at 10:33, Peter C. Thompson via EV wrote:
> it likely will void any UL guarantees.
You would know more than I about UL guarantees -- I had no idea such a thing
existed -- but I suppose that adding a cord and plug to a device meant to be
directly wired would affect its UL certifica
On 7 Mar 2016 at 18:16, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
> NEC and UL are independent organizations; not government bodies. Their
> standards are voluntary, and do not carry the force of law.
>
True. However, most residential building codes, which DO have the force of
law behind them, incorporate the N
On 7 Mar 2016 at 14:36, Jan Steinman via EV wrote:
> Y'mean like the cord and plug I wired to go into the dryer outlet¦ with a
> 15 kW generator on the other end? :-)
OK, now THAT'S a hazard.
I'm pretty middle of the road on electrical safety - not careless, but not a
nervous nellie either. I'
> the lithium-ion batteries that powers [sic] it can be commissioned in
> in [sic] two power levels, 7.2 kWh and 9.6 kWh. Based on these
> powertrains, the car can achieve a maximum top speed of 50 km/h and 90
> km/h, respectively, while getting up to 100 km (62 miles) of range.
So the smaller b
On 8 Mar 2016 at 10:39, Jan Steinman via EV wrote:
> Can you point me to the page and paragraph in the National Electrical Code
> where it says such a thing is illegal? Because I canTMt find it in my copy.
> :-)
If you mean your suicide cord, you're right, the NEC is generally mute about
stuff y
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On 9 Mar 2016 at 23:57, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> thatTMs why these renders appear here.
I think they mean "renderings." "Render" as a noun means a rough coat of
plaster.
Even with that, this article is not what I'd call "news," EV or otherwise.
It's pure speculation, and that's putting it as
As Lee Hart has pointed out, EV interest in the US (and probably elsewhere)
has always run in cycles. There are a couple things which make this upswing
different.
For one, this is the highest peak I've seen since I've been aware of EV
issues (that's almost 50 years). This HAS to make EVs more
On 13 Mar 2016 at 6:55, K O via EV wrote:
> So replacing internal combustion engines with all-electric ones would
> use 4 to 8 times as much electricity as refining petroleum
Folks who oppose EVs like to make calculations like this to "prove" that EVs
are actually a step backward. They simply
On 14 Mar 2016 at 11:34, Rick Beebe via EV wrote:
> I had www.customaluminumboxes.com make me perfectly sized welded
> aluminum boxes.
Those guys are located about an hour from where I live. I've had them do
some work for me and was pleased. The cost was higher than stock boxes, of
course, b
On 14 Mar 2016 at 7:49, Nikki Gordon-Bloomfield via EV wrote:
> An old Solectria Force would fit the bill.
It could also be another mid- to late-90s Geo Metro conversion.
One possibility is that someone retrofitted a lithium battery to a Force or
other Metro conversion, and didn't include a
On 15 Mar 2016 at 1:06, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> The prototype Microlino weighs only 400kg without its batteries
So what? Who uses an EV without its battery?
PS - if I were a woman, and a company suggested I look at their EV because
it was a "babe magnet," they could forget me as a customer.
On 16 Mar 2016 at 0:38, jerry freedomev via EV wrote:
> Judging from my experience with babes and cute small unusual cars, they
> are babe magnets in multiple ways. First they love small cutes cars
> and just come over to see it better than anything I've seen.
I dunno. Whatever works for you,
On 16 Mar 2016 at 0:56, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> The maneuver packs an extra 0.7 percent of energy into the battery. Not
> much, but it can make a big difference in an electric vehicle
Wow, a whole 0.7 miles extra for a 100 mile range vehicle. As the writer
says, what a big difference that is i
On 17 Mar 2016 at 8:18, Rush Dougherty via EV wrote:
> As David R says so often, what you say on the internet stays on the
> internet...
Yep.
I also say: "Argue your points with verifiable facts, not insults or abuse."
(EVDL conventions, point 1e.)
http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#conv
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On 18 Mar 2016 at 7:13, Mike Nickerson via EV wrote:
> Actually, I think the vehicle would be a net generator of energy as claimed.
> The unloaded vehicle only weighs 45 tonnes on the way up the hill. The loaded
> vehicle weighs 110 tonnes on the way down the hill.
That'a certainly possible. H
It's becoming clearer with every passing week that it's exceedingly
difficult to secure any "smart" device. This brave new world, the "internet
of things," is shaping up to be mostly spyware and problems.
IMO there's no need for the majority of these items to be networked anyway.
The slight ad
Tinfoil hat time again.
I guess this is fine for those who want it. But as we're seeing with
increasing regularity - such as the case of the parent who heard a
stranger's voice coming out of the baby monitor in her kid's nursery - it's
not as easy at it looks to secure these "smart" devices.
On 17 Mar 2016 at 19:49, Rush Dougherty via EV wrote:
> I'll bet that the unloaded vehicle going down the hill does not
> produce more electricity than it consumes going up the hill.
Unless some exceedingly large-headed politician (thinks he) has managed to
change the laws of physics, that'd be
On 20 Mar 2016 at 0:22, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> However, the bike's solar power enables it to be self-sufficient for a range
> of about nine miles in pedal assist mode, Oberhollenzer said.
I strongly doubt that it will achieve this even in the best of conditions.
Those PV cells would do much m
On 20 Mar 2016 at 0:20, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> Smaller than a SmartCar, if that's possible, Cindy Landon loves her
> Boomerbuggy.
Good thing. If Cindy were larger than a Smart Car, that would be really
unhealthy.
As for the rest of this piece, why does it spend so little time actually
descr
On 21 Mar 2016 at 2:49, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> Most EV batteries have plenty of life left in them when they are no longer
> able to power an electric car. Typically, they have 70% to 80% of their power
> still available.
s/of their power/of their energy/g
> Most auto makers haven´t really thou
On 25 Mar 2016 at 11:19, Jan Steinman via EV wrote:
> Just curious what didn't work for you with the Cummins
Folks,
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One thing that's almost always missing from these discussions of ICEV vs EV
costs is the cost to society. We as vehicle owners think we get to ignore
the public costs - health effects from air and water pollution, scrubbing
Diesel soot from public buildings, and so on. But it's costing us all
On 29 Mar 2016 at 3:22, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> The station will charge a Nissan Leaf from empty to full in as little as 20
> minutes. That'll take you about 120 kilometres.
When did fast chargers start charging past 80% SOC to 100%? Did I miss
something?
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On 29 Mar 2016 at 3:21, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> "So we have already fitted one [solar] panel on the top of the auto, which can
> increase the mileage from 25 to 30 per cent.
I'm calling BS.
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On 29 Mar 2016 at 3:18, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> Andreas Stephens claimed first place in line at Sydney's St.
> Leonard's Tesla dealership around 7 a.m. AEDT Tuesday morning ...
I thought Tesla didn't have dealers.
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On 29 Mar 2016 at 3:15, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> Additionally, pressure from tire deformation that occurs on the road
> translates into electricity through the use of a piezo-electric material
> within the tires.
Great, here we go again with another variant of the generator on the wheel
fallacy.
On 29 Mar 2016 at 19:17, Michael Ross via EV wrote:
> I don't see why scavenging heat has to increase rolling resistance.
Here's the relevant passage from the original article:
> Additionally, pressure from tire deformation that occurs on the road
> translates into electricity through the use of
On 29 Mar 2016 at 15:55, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> Usually installing a dryer outlet is not a problem, say a 14-50 50A(?).
Minor correction: A 50 amp rated NEMA 14-50 would typically be a range or
welder receptacle. A clothes dryer receptacle is rated 30 amps and is a
NEMA 14-30. Before the m
On 29 Mar 2016 at 23:50, Bill Dube via EV wrote:
> I don't think these same additional benefit will occur with energy
> harvest from tires.
Seems likely. I also wonder how you'd get the current from the presumably
non-conductive tire to the vehicle where it's useful.
I'm getting more nearly
On 30 Mar 2016 at 3:25, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> Critics say many initial buyers were drawn to the cutting-edge technology and
> are not deterred by the premium over their gas-burning rivals.
>
> "If you don't need an economic motive, why are we giving it to them?"
> asked Sen. Michelle Benson, R
On 30 Mar 2016 at 3:29, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> As a DVD/Bluray/iTunes premaster by day, converter of electric vehicles by
> night, BremsTM Porsche was a thing of beauty.
The Porsche makes video productions and music, and converts electric
vehicles? That's a pretty accomplished Porsche. Take
On 3 Apr 2016 at 0:56, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> $11.95 if a charge were to take 30 minutes.
For a 30kWh battery that's about 34 cents per kWh, allowing for 85% charging
efficiency. There are places where just the electricty costs that much.
(But not where I live.)
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The lesson is, when you "buy" a condo, you don't really own it.
Same deal when you lease an EV - it's not really yours, as folks who had
EV1s and Honda EV Pluses 20 years ago would ruefully tell you.
David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
EVDL Administrator
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On 4 Apr 2016 at 11:00, Lawrence Harris via EV wrote:
> The issue is almost universally that strataTMs donTMt like to pay the
> cost via the ~publicTM purse for a benefit that is then privately
> consumed.
Sure, understandable.
And taxpayers don't like seeing EVers getting out of paying road
On 4 Apr 2016 at 14:56, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
> Having L2 for everyone IS NOT SUSTAINABLE. And in 10 years, every car
> will have a plug on it.
It seems to me that statement A is predicated on statement B, and I don't
see statement B happening. No way. Not in 10 years, not even in 20
On 7 Apr 2016 at 5:15, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> So third-party testing by U.S. government-endorsed organizations like UL can
> be important, a lesson learned by a number of hoverboard owners whose devices
> were not UL-certified ...
Know what else is important? A competent manufacturer, and one
On 11 Apr 2016 at 9:34, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
> I noticed convenience outlets on all the new Street Lamps in Baltimore
> yesterday. Only problem is, they are located 18 feet up in the base of the
> Globe structure.
Those are almost certainly intended for use with decorative lighting for
Ah, unintended consequences.
I don't see this as deliberately anti-EV, even if it may have that effect.
It appears to be aimed solely at limiting perceived social / public harm
from Uber and Lyft. That perceived harm may or may not be a real problem,
but that's not what we're here on the EVDL
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