On 22 Jun 2020 at 13:29, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
> But there are already many markets in the world where ICEs are banned.
> There are likely to be more in the future.
China is pushing EVs hard. France and the UK plan to do away with ICEV
sales by 2040, and in fact France wants Paris 100% EV by
Peter VanDerWal via EV wrote:
Toyota has stated that they don't intend to make electric cars anytime in the
near future. They claim that hybrids are a better use of battery technology.
Is that Toyota *America*, or the head office in Japan? I can see the
American division saying they won't
Toyota has stated that they don't intend to make electric cars anytime in the
near future. They claim that hybrids are a better use of battery technology.
GM on the other hand has stated that they intend to stop making gas powered
cars, suvs and light trucks in the near future (no specific
On 20 Jun 2020 at 7:06, paul dove via EV wrote:
> The law was the only reason [Toyota] made electric vehicles
>From the very beginning, Toyota has dragged their feet on EVs.
Tesla builds EVs for good reasons. I think you could argue that Nissan and
Renault did, at least initially, with the
And Toyota quit making them as soon as California repealed the zero emissions
law along with all the other car makers. The law was the only reason they made
electric vehicles
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> On Jun 19, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Mark Abramowitz via EV
> wrote:
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> What an incredibly
Perhaps, but I think that Li-ion would have happened anyway, and the NIMH
fiasco really slowed things. And I don’t think that was Toyota’s blame - it was
the intellectual holders of the patents.
- Mark
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> On Jun 19, 2020, at 9:57 AM, Peter VanDerWal via
On 6/19/20 12:34 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
Peter VanDerWal via EV wrote:
The most egregious strategy was denying the NiMH battery to BEVs.
Perhaps, but it does seem to have encouraged the use of LiIon
batteries instead, for EVs, which is a far better technology.
Well, I think it is a
Peter VanDerWal via EV wrote:
The most egregious strategy was denying the NiMH battery to BEVs.
Perhaps, but it does seem to have encouraged the use of LiIon batteries
instead, for EVs, which is a far better technology.
Well, I think it is a mistake to deliberately hold back a practical
On 6/19/20 11:57 AM, e...@vanderwal.us wrote:
The most egregious strategy was denying the NiMH battery to BEVs.
Perhaps, but it does seem to have encouraged the use of LiIon batteries
instead, for EVs, which is a far better technology.
NiMH is perhaps twice as "good" as lead in energy
> The most egregious strategy was denying the NiMH battery to BEVs.
Perhaps, but it does seem to have encouraged the use of LiIon batteries
instead, for EVs, which is a far better technology.
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On 6/19/20 9:40 AM, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote:
What an incredibly negative and blanket statement, and in my humble opinion,
false.
Let’s start with the RAV4-EV that still is popular despite battery packs that
are past their useful life.
Not only did this vehicle meet the needs of many
What an incredibly negative and blanket statement, and in my humble opinion,
false.
Let’s start with the RAV4-EV that still is popular despite battery packs that
are past their useful life.
Not only did this vehicle meet the needs of many in the EV community, it
exceeded them. Many of us
On 6/19/20 9:54 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
Well, I admit Tesla's truck is closer than I thought. But it can't hold
full sheets - too short
Personally, I'm fine with an 6' bed + 2' tailgate. I realize that some
people who carry drywall need it fully enclosed under a camper top or
cover,
On 6/19/20 8:54 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
Well, I admit Tesla's truck is closer than I thought. But it can't hold
full sheets - too short (I don't know the width). And, if Tesla were to
extend the bed, the vehicle would get crazy long. The advantage of the
minivan is I take the seats
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Seems like a Cybertruck meets all of your requi
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>> One of the problems is that people expect one
Gary Krysztopik via EV wrote:
One of the problems is that people expect one vehicle to be able to do
everything (except be fuel efficient). That's why we have so many huge
SUV's - 4x4 in case it's needed, tow capacity just in case, 7 passengers
just in case, and we've created monsters that have
few times it doesn't ... if that
works.
Peri
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O
One of the problems is that people expect one vehicle to be able to do
everything (except be fuel efficient). That's why we have so many huge
SUV's - 4x4 in case it's needed, tow capacity just in case, 7 passengers
just in case, and we've created monsters that have made it unsafe to drive
small
I think you are dreaming. Who makes a pickup that will tow 25k? I think only a
few of them will tow 18K and you won’t buy one for under $40k.
The cyber truck advertised 14k towing. Not bad for the price.
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> On Jun 17, 2020, at 1:26 AM, George Mullineaux via EV
> wrote:
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It appears that I lit a match under a powder keg of frustration. Is anyone in
this group connected to Tesla in any way? I attempted to get a message to Elon
Musk a couple of years ago when the idea of his truck was gaining ground. I was
so disappointed at the unveiling, because the Cybertruck
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