On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:13 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/14/2013 11:00 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
Telmo, Bruno,
I've incorporated your suggestions into an updated document. Thank you.
To all: feel free to use these however you find appropriate.
Jason
If I use it (and I
On 16 Nov 2013, at 04:51, Samiya Illias wrote:
Neils Bohr is famously quoted as saying: 'Everything we call real is
made of things that cannot be regarded asreal.
He said something close to that in some of his talk on complementarity.
It is a bit of a non-sense, easy to derive from the wave
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 5:22 AM, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote:
Never mind who said it. Considering what we know of quantum mechanics, is
everything real made of everything unreal? Does that mean that everything is
actually unreal, a holograph, a reflection of our mind, if that is
On 15 Nov 2013, at 21:59, LizR wrote:
AHA, I can see from your avatar why you're so keen on Leibniz -
you're almost his double!
:)
Are you talking to Roger or me?
Not sure which avatar you meant, nor which picture of Leibniz?
Don't mind too much ...
:)
On 16 November 2013 04:57,
2013/11/14 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com
Hi Alberto,
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
wrote:
Yes.
I proposed myself not to argue against sectarian apocalypticists because
that is a waste of time,
Mentioning apocalyptic narratives is an
On 16 Nov 2013, at 11:32, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 5:22 AM, Samiya Illias
samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote:
Never mind who said it. Considering what we know of quantum
mechanics, is
everything real made of everything unreal? Does that mean that
everything is
actually
Cost-ways, I can see this.
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On 11/15/2013 4:11 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
What about
Ok, but I am not hostile at all to geothermal, especially if these quakes are
very minor ones. This is also true, for me, with fracking nat gas. I am real ok
with this. I would sign on the dotted line regarding solar, if I can be assured
that Solar can and will power all of civilization's
I am real ok, with this as well, I have read, in years past, the Amory Lovins,
view on things. However behind all the savings, let us agree that due to
Newtonian Laws, and Carnot Cycles, we cannot forever, postpone moving to a new
energy regime. If you can do it with solar or antimatter,
That particle interactions can be reduced to math and math to set theory or
peano aritmethic or category theory or homotophy type theory resembles me
the idea that persons can be reduced to elementary particles, so persons
are uninteresting objects. And because I think that knowledge is something
Quantum mechanics is only an approximate description of the
Mathematical Multiverse. The only things that are real are the elements
of that Multiverse, which are algorithms (some of them describe people
in some computational state).
While the details have yet to be worked out (I have been
For humans, this is what is real:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=82c_1384436180
What quantum mechanics tells us is that reality is a relation between
fundamental relativism and derived absolutes, as well as derived relativism
and fundamental absolutes. In short, reality cannot itself be
On 16 Nov 2013, at 15:14, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
That particle interactions can be reduced to math and math to set
theory or peano aritmethic or category theory or homotophy type
theory resembles me the idea that persons can be reduced to
elementary particles, so persons are
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On 11/15/2013 8:36 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
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On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.auwrote:
For all the arguments pro and con nuclear fission, including an
impassioned speech by a 16 year old last night to a UN Youth Voice
competition, what never seems to be discussed is the elephant in the
room of how
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Ok, but I am not hostile at all to geothermal, especially
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.comwrote:
LFTR reactors would produce U233 – which is very nasty stuff.
Yes but nasty can be your friend. Proliferation is a vastly smaller problem
with a LFTR and its U-233 than with a conventional reactor and its
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On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 6:46 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/14/2013 3:30 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 4:19 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
Good one, Chris.
But you can tell from the posts here that what drives the Deniers is fear
of
government.
On 17 November 2013 08:36, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
No, I am concerned that the global warming scare can be exploited to
convince the people to relinquish more of its freedoms to the
government.
You mean the people still have some freedoms to relinquish?
The government
Russell wrote:
*For all the arguments pro and con nuclear fission, including animpassioned
speech by a 16 year old last night to a UN Youth Voicecompetition, what
never seems to be discussed is the elephant in theroom of how much uranium
resources we have. IIUC, if all fossil fuelpower
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Russell wrote:
For all the arguments pro and con nuclear fission, including
Telmo:
unfortunately I reflected to the NZ solution on another list... - it is a
convoluted - I could say:
inadeqyate - technology, just as the Au version of the surface utilization.
SOME PARTS OF THE WORLD??? let us say: the surface?
Solar woulrd cover immense surfaces just for supplying the
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:12 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 17 November 2013 08:36, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
No, I am concerned that the global warming scare can be exploited to
convince the people to relinquish more of its freedoms to the
government.
You mean the
Brent: that is a convoluted solution! I appreciate that you love sunshine,
but keep it for the beach.
Have you ever calculated how much surface of the present day efficiency is
required to collect -
say - 1000 times the energy we use today on the Globe? Think of energy
required for the missing
Hi John,
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:33 PM, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote:
Telmo:
unfortunately I reflected to the NZ solution on another list... - it is a
convoluted - I could say:
inadeqyate - technology, just as the Au version of the surface utilization.
SOME PARTS OF THE WORLD??? let
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Telmo:
unfortunately I reflected to the NZ solution on another
Doesn't Thorium 232 need plutonium to initiate a fertile reaction into a
fissile one. That is converting Th232 into U233? I have read of Rubbia's
proposal for subcritical reactions driven by a proton or laser beam. I have
zero idea if it is workable. The abundance of thorium is unassailable
If you need to push this TW challenge back at me, I would advise using the
techno emergence of Graphene for all this electrical because it has made the
jump and is being researched world wide. Caveat. This does not guarantee that
it will do the job at the TW level, and maybe silicon can? But
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If you need to push this TW challenge back at me, I would
Dear Telmo, oil wells went down deeper than previously estimated as
feasible. Techniques are evolving.
If 2, 0r 5 pipes are inadequate in transport capacity, use more. Ask the
engineers - I also claim ignorance.
the geological temperature vertical map is varying according to a lot of
factors.
Chris: if you utter reservoir - you are on the wrong track. Nothing must
COME OUT from the depth.
Not even what YOU pumped in into open plenum. (My objection against the NZ
plant).
In Hungary in the 1950s a 'hot spring well' was tried to bring out 'heat'
by its own pressure. By the time
it reached
John - The term reservoir has a well understood usage, when speaking about
hydraulic fracturing, to describe the engineered rock volume that is filled
by micro-fissures, created by injecting water under immense pressure into
the rock, at the well head.
The injected slurry contains poppants.
...but were afraid to ask.
http://www.openculture.com/2013/05/leonard_susskind_teaches_you_the_theoretical_minimum.html
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Bruno wrote: In a sense, with comp, the illusions and dreams are more
real that the stuff we imagine, which are useful fictions.
Dreams and illusions are not stuff we imagine? How do you differentiate?
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 16 Nov 2013,
Nothing to get hung (up) about.
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I meant Roger. He uses this picture.
Of course I'm working on a theory that makes me a cat looking through a
goldfish bowl. (I guess I can't keep it secret any longer!)
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On 16 November 2013 23:37, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 15 Nov 2013, at 21:59, LizR
On 16 November 2013 19:54, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/15/2013 8:36 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
First, I think maybe we disagree as to what constitutes a police state.
My definition of it is one in which the police can investigate and
interrogate anyone at anytime on any
On 17 November 2013 07:30, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote:
That is not what I intend when I mention police state. Security around a
dangerous facility is desirable. What I am referring to is the wholesale
erosion of civil liberties and the wide scale practice of eavesdropping on
On 17 November 2013 07:44, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Russell Standish
li...@hpcoders.com.auwrote:
For all the arguments pro and con nuclear fission, including an
impassioned speech by a 16 year old last night to a UN Youth Voice
competition,
I'm glad I brought up the subject of thorium reactors, I have learned a lot
more about them than I knew previously (most of it good).
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On 11/16/2013 11:36 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
But I certainly take your point that there is a reason the government is not
trusted. However, it is not the government that is warning us about global
warming. It is in the scientific research literature. You didn't find lies
about drones or drugs
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