Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 5:42:45 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 5/30/2019 2:47 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 4:38:10 PM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >>> *Quantum Cheshire Cat effect may be explained by standard quantum >>> mechanics.* >>> >>> >>>

The Worth of an Angry God

2019-05-30 Thread Lawrence Crowell
This article discusses the role this god-idea played in the development of civilization. LC http://nautil.us/issue/72/quandary/the-worth-of-an-angry-god The Worth of an Angry GodHow supernatural beliefs allowed societies to bond and spread. By Steve Paulson A god who knows everything, is

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 1:28:19 PM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > Quantum Cheshire Cat effect may be explained by standard quantum mechanics. > > https://phys.org/news/2015-06-quantum-cheshire-cat-effect-standard.html > > @philipthrift > Of course it is ordinary quantum mechanics. In

Re: Constructive thinking vs dismissive thinking

2019-05-30 Thread Alan Grayson
On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 7:35:40 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Tue, May 28, 2019 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < > everyth...@googlegroups.com > wrote: > > * > Notice that Cosmin has been invited to demonstrate his telepathic >> powers several times and even to propose a test of

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 9:20 AM Jason Resch wrote: > > Is existence an intrinsic property or a relative one? > Existence isn't a property! Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread Jason Resch
On Thursday, May 30, 2019, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > On 5/30/2019 2:25 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Thursday, May 30, 2019, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On 5/30/2019 12:11

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 5/30/2019 2:47 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 4:38:10 PM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 4:35:14 PM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 3:30:56 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: On 5/30/2019 1:17

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 5/30/2019 2:25 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Thursday, May 30, 2019, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: On 5/30/2019 12:11 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 1:18 PM Philip Thrift mailto:cloudver...@gmail.com>>

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 5/30/2019 2:18 PM, Tomas Pales wrote: On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 10:03:30 PM UTC+2, Brent wrote: On 5/30/2019 11:47 AM, Tomas Pales wrote: On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 8:02:12 PM UTC+2, Brent wrote: I wonder if philosophers have noticed that properties can be

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

2019-05-30 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Yes, Bruno,Godel forgot more than most physicists of his era, could remember. I wonder if he hated Everett's Multiverses?  -Original Message- From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list Sent: Wed, May 29, 2019 7:39 am Subject: Re: The anecdote of Moon landing On 28 May 2019, at 21:39,

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 4:38:10 PM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > > On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 4:35:14 PM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 3:30:56 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/30/2019 1:17 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 4:35:14 PM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 3:30:56 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 5/30/2019 1:17 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 3:03:30 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/30/2019

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 3:30:56 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 5/30/2019 1:17 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 3:03:30 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 5/30/2019 11:47 AM, Tomas Pales wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 8:02:12 PM UTC+2,

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread Jason Resch
On Thursday, May 30, 2019, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > On 5/30/2019 12:11 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 1:18 PM Philip Thrift > wrote: > >> >> >> On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 9:14:48 AM UTC-5, Jason wrote: >>> >>>

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread Tomas Pales
On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 10:03:30 PM UTC+2, Brent wrote: > > > > On 5/30/2019 11:47 AM, Tomas Pales wrote: > > > > On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 8:02:12 PM UTC+2, Brent wrote: >> >> I wonder if philosophers have noticed that properties can be separated >> from objects in quantum mechanics,

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 5/30/2019 1:17 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 3:03:30 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: On 5/30/2019 11:47 AM, Tomas Pales wrote: On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 8:02:12 PM UTC+2, Brent wrote: I wonder if philosophers have noticed that properties can be

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 3:03:30 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 5/30/2019 11:47 AM, Tomas Pales wrote: > > > > On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 8:02:12 PM UTC+2, Brent wrote: >> >> I wonder if philosophers have noticed that properties can be separated >> from objects in quantum mechanics,

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 5/30/2019 12:11 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 1:18 PM Philip Thrift > wrote: On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 9:14:48 AM UTC-5, Jason wrote: On Thursday, May 30, 2019, Philip Thrift wrote: On Thursday,

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 5/30/2019 11:47 AM, Tomas Pales wrote: On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 8:02:12 PM UTC+2, Brent wrote: I wonder if philosophers have noticed that properties can be separated from objects in quantum mechanics, c.f. Cheshire Cat experiments? What does it mean that a property is

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread Jason Resch
On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 1:18 PM Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 9:14:48 AM UTC-5, Jason wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, May 30, 2019, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 7:50:37 AM UTC-5, Tomas Pales wrote: On Wednesday, May

Re: Allah: the One and Only Deity

2019-05-30 Thread Philip Benjamin
Re: Allah: the One and Only Deity from Google group forum at the bottom [Philip Benjamin] Rudyard Kipling’s Ballad speaks a lot! The recent posts in the Google group seems to prove it. These are in fact products of WAMP-erial campuses and WAMP-ologies (defined elsewhere below). Though annoyance

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread Jason Resch
On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 1:13 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > On 5/30/2019 7:14 AM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Thursday, May 30, 2019, Philip Thrift wrote: > >> >> >> On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 7:50:37 AM UTC-5, Tomas Pales wrote: >>>

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread Tomas Pales
On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 6:33:30 PM UTC+2, Jason wrote: > > > > On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 9:54 AM Tomas Pales > wrote: > >> >> >> On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 4:14:48 PM UTC+2, Jason wrote: >>> >>> >>> Let's say reality is composed of two sets: >>> >>> 1. The set of all existent things >>> 2.

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread Tomas Pales
On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 8:02:12 PM UTC+2, Brent wrote: > > I wonder if philosophers have noticed that properties can be separated > from objects in quantum mechanics, c.f. Cheshire Cat experiments? > > What does it mean that a property is "separated" from an object? That an object loses a

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread Philip Thrift
Quantum Cheshire Cat effect may be explained by standard quantum mechanics. https://phys.org/news/2015-06-quantum-cheshire-cat-effect-standard.html @philipthrift On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 1:02:12 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > I wonder if philosophers have noticed that properties can be

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 9:14:48 AM UTC-5, Jason wrote: > > > > On Thursday, May 30, 2019, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > >> >> >> On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 7:50:37 AM UTC-5, Tomas Pales wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 10:15:46 PM UTC+2, Jason wrote: Appears to

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
I wonder if philosophers have noticed that properties can be separated from objects in quantum mechanics, c.f. Cheshire Cat experiments? Brent On 5/30/2019 5:50 AM, Tomas Pales wrote: On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 10:15:46 PM UTC+2, Jason wrote: Appears to predict the arithmetical

Re: Allah: the One and Only Deity

2019-05-30 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 5/30/2019 12:02 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Mathematicians homogeninize the concept. Even strong atheism is a theology as it claims that “there is no God”, which is a theological proposition. That is a misrepresentation of atheism.  Atheists claim "there is no reason believe there is a

Re: Allah: the One and Only Deity

2019-05-30 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 5/29/2019 11:47 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Only atheists insist to use “God” in the sense of the Christian (and only Aristotelian among them, where indeed materialism has been*the* dogma). Words are for communication and so their meaning is determined by their usage.   "God" in the sense

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

2019-05-30 Thread John Clark
On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 3:12 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: > > * !* > *But science has not found any solution here. * > It's true Science has not found a solution to every problem, but theology not found a solution to *ANY* problem. *> Why

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

2019-05-30 Thread John Clark
On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 7:04 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: >> Physics can never make a good prediction if you don't make clear exactly >> what it is that you want predicted, > > > *> My reasoning does not depends on what is predicted.* > Yes it is, you make a big deal out of something you call "First

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread Jason Resch
On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 9:54 AM Tomas Pales wrote: > > > On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 4:14:48 PM UTC+2, Jason wrote: >> >> >> Let's say reality is composed of two sets: >> >> 1. The set of all existent things >> 2. The set of all non-existent things >> >> If nothing existed at all, then set one

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread Tomas Pales
On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 4:14:48 PM UTC+2, Jason wrote: > > > Let's say reality is composed of two sets: > > 1. The set of all existent things > 2. The set of all non-existent things > > If nothing existed at all, then set one would be emtpy, while set two > would contain everything. >

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread Tomas Pales
On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 3:32:41 PM UTC+2, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 7:50:37 AM UTC-5, Tomas Pales wrote: >> >> >> On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 10:15:46 PM UTC+2, Jason wrote: >>> >>> Appears to predict the arithmetical reality: >>> >>> "There exists, unless

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread Jason Resch
On Thursday, May 30, 2019, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 7:50:37 AM UTC-5, Tomas Pales wrote: >> >> >> On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 10:15:46 PM UTC+2, Jason wrote: >>> >>> Appears to predict the arithmetical reality: >>> >>> "There exists, unless I am mistake, an

Re: Constructive thinking vs dismissive thinking

2019-05-30 Thread John Clark
On Tue, May 28, 2019 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: * > Notice that Cosmin has been invited to demonstrate his telepathic > powers several times and even to propose a test of it himself. But after > saying it is common and easy, he has demurred to

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 7:50:37 AM UTC-5, Tomas Pales wrote: > > > On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 10:15:46 PM UTC+2, Jason wrote: >> >> Appears to predict the arithmetical reality: >> >> "There exists, unless I am mistake, an entire world consisting of the >> totality of mathematical

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 3:15:46 PM UTC-5, Jason wrote: > > Appears to predict the arithmetical reality: > > "There exists, unless I am mistake, an entire world consisting of the > totality of mathematical truths, which is accessible to us only through our > intelligence, just as there

Re: Constructive thinking vs dismissive thinking

2019-05-30 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
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Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread Tomas Pales
On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 10:15:46 PM UTC+2, Jason wrote: > > Appears to predict the arithmetical reality: > > "There exists, unless I am mistake, an entire world consisting of the > totality of mathematical truths, which is accessible to us only through our > intelligence, just as there

Re: Consciousness in 5 grams or less

2019-05-30 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 5:18:13 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > > You told me that consciousness is material. Please extract it from the > bug, and send me 5g of pure consciousness extract. > > I have few doubt that insect and arthropodes have some first person > (conscious)

Re: Constructive thinking vs dismissive thinking

2019-05-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 30 May 2019, at 08:37, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List > wrote: > > I asked for explanations, not for explanations away. So far you mentioned 1, > though you claimed that there are many. 2 more please. > > On Wednesday, 29 May 2019 13:49:39 UTC+3, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 28 May

Re: Vital Materialism

2019-05-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 30 May 2019, at 10:01, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 2:12:01 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > Materialism is like Vitalism. It will be abandoned, soon or later, as a > lasting superstition, I think. > > Bruno > > > "Vital Materialism" is the new thing

Re: Consciousness in 5 grams or less

2019-05-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 29 May 2019, at 19:38, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 8:27:36 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 28 May 2019, at 19:57, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> n Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 6:30:08 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> On 27 May 2019, at 20:20,

Vital Materialism

2019-05-30 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 2:12:01 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > Materialism is like Vitalism. It will be abandoned, soon or later, as a > lasting superstition, I think. > > Bruno > > "Vital Materialism" is the new thing now. :) e.g. https://www.dukeupress.edu/vibrant-matter

Re: Quote by French Mathematician Charles Hermite

2019-05-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 29 May 2019, at 22:32, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 3:15:46 PM UTC-5, Jason wrote: > Appears to predict the arithmetical reality: > > "There exists, unless I am mistake, an entire world consisting of the > totality of mathematical truths, which is

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

2019-05-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 29 May 2019, at 20:39, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 5/29/2019 3:54 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> On the other hand, the solutions science finds work better than the >>> solutions provided by every other disciplines...like theology. >> >> Which one? > >

Re: Allah: the One and Only Deity

2019-05-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 29 May 2019, at 20:31, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 5/29/2019 3:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> On 28 May 2019, at 22:00, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/28/2019 12:41 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: The universal machine

Re: Allah: the One and Only Deity

2019-05-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 29 May 2019, at 20:29, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 5/29/2019 3:26 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> On 28 May 2019, at 21:59, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/28/2019 12:38 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: You need to use the

Re: Constructive thinking vs dismissive thinking

2019-05-30 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
I asked for explanations, not for explanations away. So far you mentioned 1, though you claimed that there are many. 2 more please. On Wednesday, 29 May 2019 13:49:39 UTC+3, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 28 May 2019, at 19:34, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < > everyth...@googlegroups.com >