On 14 November 2013 20:24, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote:
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On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Russell Standish
li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:35:48PM +0100, Telmo Menezes wrote:
There is overwhelming evidence in favour of the theory of evolution
because of the number of predictions it got right, not because of the
amount of
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On 14 Nov 2013, at 04:47, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/13/2013 7:26 PM, LizR wrote:
On 14 November 2013 16:18, Chris de Morsella
cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote:
But as Telmo points out we can't just wait till fossil fuel runs
out and then switch. It takes energy to build nuclear power plants
and
Yes.
I proposed myself not to argue against sectarian apocalypticists because
that is a waste of time, but honoring those of you that are not seduced by
the end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it movement, I will say something:
Climatic models are bullshit. if you look at how they adjust parameters
Retrodiction, instead of prediction, in this case.
2013/11/14 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
Yes.
I proposed myself not to argue against sectarian apocalypticists because
that is a waste of time, but honoring those of you that are not seduced by
the end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it
Hi Alberto,
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes.
I proposed myself not to argue against sectarian apocalypticists because
that is a waste of time,
Mentioning apocalyptic narratives is an important point. These are a
fairly common social phenomena
On 11/14/2013 3:30 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 4:19 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
Good one, Chris.
But you can tell from the posts here that what drives the Deniers is fear of
government. In the U.S. since the Viet Nam war there has developed a
widespread
On 11/14/2013 3:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
The use of science by government of science is of the type of pseudo-religion
abuse.
?? Does not parse.
Brent
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On 11/14/2013 3:34 AM, Bruno Marchal
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The use of science by government of science is of the
type of pseudo-religion abuse.
?? Does not parse.
Brent
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On 11/14/2013 3:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
The use of science by government of science is of the type of
pseudo-religion abuse.
?? Does not parse.
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On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 12:09:18PM +0100, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Russell Standish
li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:
The good news is that the figures I've seen is that its not such a
tremendous cost after all.
I am very interested in this. Could you be more
On 11/14/2013 4:20 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Yes.
I proposed myself not to argue against sectarian apocalypticists because that is a waste
of time, but honoring those of you that are not seduced by the
end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it movement, I will say something:
Alas, some people just
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On 14 November 2013 20:24, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com
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On 14 Nov 2013, at 04:47, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/13/2013
Hi Chris
I won't interleave my replies as I'm finding it quite confusing to follow
who is saying what in reply to what, so apologies in advance if I miss
anything.
The suggestion about synthesising petrol from the atmosphere is of course
very hypothetical at the moment. Supposing it could be
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Hi Chris
Hi Liz
I won't interleave my replies as I'm finding
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Hi Chris
Hi Liz
I won't interleave my replies as I'm finding it quite confusing to follow
who is saying what in reply to what, so
On 11/14/2013 7:19 PM, LizR wrote:
Hi Chris
I won't interleave my replies as I'm finding it quite confusing to follow who is saying
what in reply to what, so apologies in advance if I miss anything.
The suggestion about synthesising petrol from the atmosphere is of course very
hypothetical
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I would like to see us switch away from fossil fuels completely
Hi John,
I would like to point out that I did not write the first two sentences
you cite and I was being sarcastic when I wrote the third one. As I
said, I'm agnostic on human caused global warming. Unusually, I mostly
agree with everything you say here. A few comments below...
the fossil fuel
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.comwrote:
I would like to point out that I did not write the first two sentences
you cite and I was being sarcastic when I wrote the third one.
Sorry.
John K Clark
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On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:54 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com
wrote:
I would like to point out that I did not write the first two sentences
you cite and I was being sarcastic when I wrote the third one.
Obviously there is more CO2 in the air than there has been for a very long
time, and obviously the climate has changed somewhat in the last couple of
decades (warmest on record, again and again). It's hard to prove the
connection, of course, but the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming. Of
On 11/13/2013 7:51 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 4:26 AM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com
mailto:te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
the fossil fuel industry doesn't have to convince anyone that global
warming isn't
happening,
There is no doubt that the climate is
Dear LIZ:
More than ~2 million peer-reviewed articles approved the Bible stories
beween 1599 and 2010. We call that 'religon'. (Numbers!!!) Does that make
them true?
Fossil fuel will not neccesarily run out: nobody will use them after our
demise.
And for nukes? I would say: O N L Y fusion!
The
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 7:49 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Obviously there is more CO2 in the air than there has been for a very long
time, and obviously the climate has changed somewhat in the last couple of
decades (warmest on record, again and again). It's hard to prove the
connection,
On 11/13/2013 10:49 AM, LizR wrote:
Obviously there is more CO2 in the air than there has been for a very long time, and
obviously the climate has changed somewhat in the last couple of decades (warmest on
record, again and again). It's hard to prove the connection, of course, but the
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:35:48PM +0100, Telmo Menezes wrote:
There is overwhelming evidence in favour of the theory of evolution
because of the number of predictions it got right, not because of the
amount of papers that say that it is a spiffy theory. The theory of
anthropogenic global
On 14 November 2013 10:19, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear LIZ:
More than ~2 million peer-reviewed articles approved the Bible stories
beween 1599 and 2010. We call that 'religon'. (Numbers!!!) Does that make
them true?
They weren't using the scientific method. Do you think
On 14 November 2013 10:35, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
There is overwhelming evidence in favour of the theory of evolution
because of the number of predictions it got right, not because of the
amount of papers that say that it is a spiffy theory. The theory of
anthropogenic
On 11/13/2013 1:19 PM, John Mikes wrote:
More than ~2 million peer-reviewed articles approved the Bible stories beween
1599 and 2010.
But did they provide any data?
Brent
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On 11/13/2013 10:49 AM, LizR wrote:
Obviously there is more CO2
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On 11/13/2013 1:19 PM, John Mikes wrote:
More than ~2 million peer
On 14 November 2013 16:18, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote:
But as Telmo points out we can't just wait till fossil fuel runs out and
then switch. It takes energy to build nuclear power plants and solar
panels and wind tubines. In principle they could bootstrap themselves, but
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On 14 November 2013 16:25, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote:
And to have the depth and breadth of understanding of the climatic systems
both atmospheric and oceanic to be able to say with a high degree of
certainty that there won't be unintended consequences that emerge out of
On 11/13/2013 7:26 PM, LizR wrote:
On 14 November 2013 16:18, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com
mailto:cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote:
But as Telmo points out we can't just wait till fossil fuel runs out and
then
switch. It takes energy to build nuclear power plants and solar
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