On 29 Oct 2013, at 23:26, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/29/2013 7:30 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Also with comp, consciousness is NOT a product of the mind. that's
still too much an aristotelian way to express the identity
thesis. Consciousness is not physical, it is the mental state of
person
On 30 Oct 2013, at 00:17, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
To be sure, I don't like the idea of Übermensch.
At least we know there is no Übermachine.
There is just a universal baby god (the universal person/machine)
But this
On 30 Oct 2013, at 12:05, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:51 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
On 10/29/2013 4:17 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
But this is how I see the concept of Übermensch. The idea got
horribly
distorted by subsequent political events. The ideal of
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok, by me, although for an off-topic subject, it is interesting how
frequently it comes up.
Politics is the blue cheese of debate, it overwhelms all other flavours :)
On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 5:50:46 PM
So what *was* Neitzsche on about? Did he think everyone is a potential
superman (or woman, I hope) ? Was he the first self-help guru? That seems
an almost a religious idea, although it may become technologically feasible
soon, to some degree ... I don't believe he had any leanings towards a
master
On 10/31/2013 1:52 PM, LizR wrote:
So what /was/ Neitzsche on about?
It's hard to say. He reject systems and believed is seeing things from different
perspectives. So he writes a lot things which are inconsistent, at least on the surface.
That's why his ideas can be taken up by the Nazis,
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:51 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 10/29/2013 4:17 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
But this is how I see the concept of Übermensch. The idea got horribly
distorted by subsequent political events. The ideal of Übermensch is a
human that transcends the illusion
On 29 Oct 2013, at 19:53, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/29/2013 9:27 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Depressingly, until the
middle of the XX century there was no general consensus that all
human
beings are people with equal rights.
That's a very recent idea, indeed.
It's so recent that it's well
On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 7:05:47 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote:
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:51 AM, meekerdb meek...@verizon.netjavascript:
wrote:
On 10/29/2013 4:17 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
But this is how I see the concept of Übermensch. The idea got horribly
distorted by
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Subject: Re: Neuroscientists discover new 'mini-neural computer' in
the brain
On 28 Oct 2013, at 16:52, Craig Weinberg wrote:
http://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-10-neuroscientists-mini-neural-brain.html
On 28 Oct 2013, at 19:55, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Monday, October 28, 2013 1:53:02 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I refer you to my rare posts where I suggest that the level is the
molecular level, and should include the glial cells, which in my
opinion (from diverse reading) handle
*Cells are people, perhaps. Dendrites and molecules lack self-referential
means, like quarks. *
Then cows are Nietzchian superpeople. That disqualifies half of mi fridge's
food.
2013/10/29 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 28 Oct 2013, at 19:55, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Monday, October
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote:
Cells are people, perhaps. Dendrites and molecules lack self-referential
means, like quarks.
Then cows are Nietzchian superpeople. That disqualifies half of mi fridge's
food.
You can't just mix two unrelated
I know a single concept of people
I wonder what´s the new concept of people, different from the one I manage
(either philosophical or not)
Have they rights?
2013/10/29 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 3:08:16 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 28 Oct 2013, at 19:55, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Monday, October 28, 2013 1:53:02 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I refer you to my rare posts where I suggest that the level is the
molecular level, and should
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote:
I know a single concept of people
I wonder what´s the new concept of people, different from the one I manage
(either philosophical or not)
Have they rights?
This is a very good question which, in fact, serves
The problem with modernity is precisely the confusion and madness (and I
may say lack of intellectual strenght) of this fluidity, ever depending on
audiences and personal interest that makes today amoebas to have rights ...
and tomorrow morning we can massacrate people because at last, they are
I´m not atacking you. I simply I like to talk with people, and for this
purpose is necessary to share a clear definition of concepts.
However, Telmo, If you don´t think so, then of course I´m attacking your
position. But not for much time because even attacking with words becomes
impossible with
, October 29, 2013 12:01 AM
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Subject: Re: Neuroscientists discover new 'mini-neural computer' in the
brain
On 28 Oct 2013, at 19:20, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
I read, somewhere, Professor Marchal, that it was the spindle cells in the
brain that pushed
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote:
I´m not atacking you. I simply I like to talk with people, and for this
purpose is necessary to share a clear definition of concepts.
However, Telmo, If you don´t think so, then of course I´m attacking your
position.
What are the 8 hypostases? I've seen this referred to a few other times on
this list and have never really known what it refers to.
thanks
dan
On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:30:26 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 29 Oct 2013, at 14:14, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Tuesday, October
On 29 Oct 2013, at 14:22, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
wrote:
I know a single concept of people
I wonder what´s the new concept of people, different from the one I
manage
(either philosophical or not)
Have they rights?
they chucked me out of school
'Cause the teacher knew I had the funk
:)
Bruno
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On 29 Oct 2013, at 17:07, freqflyer07281972 wrote:
What are the 8 hypostases? I've seen this referred to a few other
times on this list and have never really known what it refers to.
It is eight intensional variants of Gödel's arithmetical predicate,
that all self-referentially correct
On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 2:11:56 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 29 Oct 2013, at 17:07, freqflyer07281972 wrote:
What are the 8 hypostases? I've seen this referred to a few other times on
this list and have never really known what it refers to.
It is eight intensional variants of
On 30 October 2013 07:53, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 10/29/2013 9:27 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Depressingly, until the
middle of the XX century there was no general consensus that all human
beings are people with equal rights.
That's a very recent idea, indeed.
It's so
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 29 Oct 2013, at 14:22, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
wrote:
I know a single concept of people
I wonder what´s the new concept of people, different
That article is very interesting and show how little we know and worst of
all, how little we realize how little we know, by the way.
2013/10/28 Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com
http://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-10-neuroscientists-mini-neural-brain.html
Dendrites, the branch-like
On 10/29/2013 4:02 PM, LizR wrote:
On 30 October 2013 07:53, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
On 10/29/2013 9:27 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Depressingly, until the
middle of the XX century there was no general consensus that all human
beings are
On 30 October 2013 14:22, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 10/29/2013 4:02 PM, LizR wrote:
On 30 October 2013 07:53, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 10/29/2013 9:27 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Depressingly, until the
middle of the XX century there was no general consensus
On 10/29/2013 4:17 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
But this is how I see the concept of Übermensch. The idea got horribly
distorted by subsequent political events. The ideal of Übermensch is a
human that transcends the illusion and becomes aware of it's true (1p)
nature. I also see it as close to
On 28 Oct 2013, at 16:52, Craig Weinberg wrote:
http://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-10-neuroscientists-mini-neural-brain.html
Dendrites, the branch-like projections of neurons, were once thought
to be passive wiring in the brain. But now researchers at the
University of North Carolina at
pm
Subject: Re: Neuroscientists discover new 'mini-neural computer' in the brain
On 28 Oct 2013, at 16:52, Craig Weinberg wrote:
http://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-10-neuroscientists-mini-neural-brain.html
Dendrites, the branch-like projections of neurons, were once thought to be
passive
On Monday, October 28, 2013 1:53:02 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I refer you to my rare posts where I suggest that the level is the
molecular level, and should include the glial cells, which in my opinion
(from diverse reading) handle to information.
I also defend the idea that an
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