Hi Stephen P. King
Yes, we are products of God's will, although
not all of those activities (such as sin) are
his preferred will.
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9/19/2012
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen
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Hi Stephen P. King
The supreme monad (God) does everything
(God causes all to happen) while the monads,
being entirely passive, can do nothing except
display the changes that God made for them
as what is called their individual "perceptions",
meaning the universe from their own points of view
ch is possible
> in the future. Faith is forward projected belief. I have faith that the
> bridge can support my weight because it is possible to falsify that belief
> when I am actually crossing it..
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> Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
> 9/14/2012
> Leibniz w
Hi Stephen P. King
Monads are not rigidly separated.
So change in one mind is reflected in all,
the extent being how capable the others are of reading
the content and their similarity to the subject.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/17/2012
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd hav
Hi Stephen P. King
The Christian Church, the Bride of Christ, is also called
the communion of saints. That means that they are all children
of God, and their minds are lead by the Bible and fellow
believers. So faith is shared sotospeak.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/17/2012
Leib
Hi Bruno Marchal
Yes, we can be fooled. Satan is the great deceiver.
But I don't think that Satan has any real love, beauty or goodness
to share. Only fakes. Or only for show.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/17/2012
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so that e
rt my weight because it is possible to falsify that belief
when I am actually crossing it..
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9/14/2012
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so that everything could function."
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is possible to falsify that belief
when I am actually crossing it..
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9/14/2012
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Hi Bruno Marchal
All love, all truth, all beauty necessarily comes from God (Platonia's All).
So if you can feel any of those, there's your experience.
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9/16/2012
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Hi Bruno Marchal
The shared part of religion (or science) is cal
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> Faith is ?o me at least a virtue since it is associ
Hi John Clark
Theology was once called the queen of the sciences,
but that was just a power rating.
Theology is not a science, it's closer to but different than
philosophy in that theology is, or should be, based on scripture.
God's teachings, not man's.
Philosophy deals with belief and reason,
, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
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> On Thursday, September 13, 2012 8:43:39 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote:
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On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 Roger Clough wrote:
> Faith is to me at least a virtue since it is associated with hope and
> love.
>
Faith is believing in something when there is absolutely no reason for
doing so; an optimist with faith would believe in things that fill him with
hope and love, and a pes
's no God, we'd have to invent him
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On Thu, Sep 13, 2012? Roger Clough wrote:
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> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 Roger Clough >wrote:
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> > Theology is based on faith
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> I understand that theology is based on faith, what I don't understand is
> why faith is supposed to be a virtue.
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I'm actually with you
On Thursday, September 13, 2012 8:43:39 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote:
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> Hi Bruno Marchal
>
> The shared part of religion (or science) is called belief(s).
> They are exclusively in the fom of words.
> For example words from the Bible, and the Creeds.
>
> The personal or private part of
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 Roger Clough wrote:
> Theology is based on faith
I understand that theology is based on faith, what I don't understand is
why faith is supposed to be a virtue.
> and moral practice.
>
Then why is the history of religion a list of one atrocity after another?
John K Cla
Hi Bruno Marchal
The shared part of religion (or science) is called belief(s).
They are exclusively in the fom of words.
For example words from the Bible, and the Creeds.
The personal or private part of religion is called faith.
It is not belief, for it is wordless, is more like
Hi John Clark
Theology is based on faith and moral practice.
In other words, meaning and value,
neither of which you will find in facts.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/13/2012
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so that everything could function.
Hi Bruno Marchal
Applying science to religion can be no more successful than
applying science to poetry. Both poetry and religion have to be
experienced if they are of any use at all, and science
is a moron with regard to experiential knowledge.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/12/2012
Lei
Hi John Clark
Try God= universal intelligence.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/12/2012
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Hi meekerdb
Using religion to prove anything in this world
would be like using Mozart to build a bridge.
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9/11/2012
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On Mon, Sep 10, 2012? Roger Clough
John C, you have been urged:
*"If you are an atheist, prove that God does not exist."*
*I am not an atheist, an atheist needs a god dy deny, the concept does not
fit into my worldview, but that is besode the point. What is more relevant:*
years ago on another list I received a similar outburst -
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 Roger Clough wrote:
> If you are an atheist, prove that God does not exist. If you can't, you
> are a hypocrite in attacking those that do believe that God exists. You
> haven't a leg to stand on.
>
A fool disbelieves only in the things he can prove not to exist, the wise
Hi John Clark
If you are an atheist, prove that God does not exist.
If you can't, you are a hypocrite in attacking those that do believe that
God exists. You haven't a leg to stand on.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/10/2012
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
s
Hi Jason Resch
You ask "Is there any word for someone who rejects both theism and deism? "
Answer: Perhaps an agnostic ?
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/9/2012
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Hi Bruno Marchal
IMHO Sorry, perhaps I am growing tired and grumpy,
but the issue about about the lack of a T
Logical truth has its uses, but it has no provision for self or feelings or
indeed life, no meaning, no aesthetics, no morality, no intelligence,
just the gears of logic. No Bach,
Hi Bruno Marchal
IMHO Digital devices can interface with living systems,
but they must always ultimately be slaves to the self,
the nonphysical governor (mind), just as the supreme
monad (the All) is the governor of the universe. So transplant
of a physical brain seems a bit impossible as of yet
I think that the God attacked by atheists indeed does not exist.
IMHO God is cosmic intelligence, which is nonphysical.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/8/2012
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Hi Jason Resch
Personally, I believe that there is more intelligence innate in nature (the
brain)
than scientists give nature credit for.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/8/2012
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so that everything could function."
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Hi Roberto Szabo
You don't need much evolution to arrive at a being that can feel
and has at least some intellectual capacity. Any living
entity has to know friend from foe, pain from pleasure, and
so forth. But rocks, like computers, have no need for such abilities,
because they are both dead. A
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