Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
rsal machine (aka computer). This is more fundamental cognitive science or epistemology than physics. Bruno > > Mitch > > > -Original Message- > From: Bruno Marchal > To: everything-list@googlegroups.com > Sent: Tue, Jun 16, 2020 4:15 am > Subject: Re: My

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-17 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
at the edge of solar system, avoiding interference from solar emissions. Then, we will receive a better view of where we all are. Mitch -Original Message- From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, Jun 16, 2020 4:15 am Subject: Re: My view of Bruno's theory On 15

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
physics/theology from science around +500). Bruno (*) Cohen J. Daniel, 2007. Equations from God, Pure Mathematics and Victorian Faith, John Hopkins Press, Baltimore. > > > -Original Message- > From: Bruno Marchal > To: everything-list@googlegroups.com >

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 15 Jun 2020, at 16:48, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Monday, June 15, 2020 at 5:43:43 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 14 Jun 2020, at 14:01, Alan Grayson > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 4:55:32 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 14 Jun 2020, at

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-15 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
. Tegmark and Hameroff ended their argument several years, ago, amicably, with Tegmark. -Original Message- From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Jun 15, 2020 7:49 am Subject: Re: My view of Bruno's theory On 14 Jun 2020, at 16:12, Philip Thrift wrote

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-15 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, June 15, 2020 at 5:43:43 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 14 Jun 2020, at 14:01, Alan Grayson > > wrote: > > > > On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 4:55:32 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 14 Jun 2020, at 03:06, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 14 Jun 2020, at 16:12, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 5:26:11 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 13 Jun 2020, at 15:00, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> How In The Penrose-Hameroff Paradigm The Forms of Space-time Curvatures Can >> Be

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 14 Jun 2020, at 14:01, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 4:55:32 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 14 Jun 2020, at 03:06, Alan Grayson > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 2:52:22 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 13 Jun 2020, at

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-14 Thread Philip Thrift
On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 5:26:11 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 13 Jun 2020, at 15:00, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > > *How In The Penrose-Hameroff Paradigm The Forms of Space-time Curvatures > Can Be Connected With The Eternal Platonic Ideas Or Forms In The Qualia Of > Our

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-14 Thread Alan Grayson
On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 4:55:32 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 14 Jun 2020, at 03:06, Alan Grayson > > wrote: > > > > On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 2:52:22 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 13 Jun 2020, at 04:01, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, June 12, 2020 at

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-14 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 14 Jun 2020, at 03:06, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 2:52:22 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 13 Jun 2020, at 04:01, Alan Grayson > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, June 12, 2020 at 3:43:59 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 11 Jun 2020, at

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-14 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 13 Jun 2020, at 15:00, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 3:45:40 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 12 Jun 2020, at 11:52, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> On Friday, June 12, 2020 at 4:43:59 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> So when I say that a number

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-13 Thread Alan Grayson
On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 2:52:22 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 13 Jun 2020, at 04:01, Alan Grayson > > wrote: > > > > On Friday, June 12, 2020 at 3:43:59 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 11 Jun 2020, at 17:35, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, June 11, 2020

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-13 Thread Philip Thrift
On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 3:45:40 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 12 Jun 2020, at 11:52, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > On Friday, June 12, 2020 at 4:43:59 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> So when I say that a number can think, observe, or even just be (Turing) >> universal,

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 13 Jun 2020, at 04:01, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Friday, June 12, 2020 at 3:43:59 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 11 Jun 2020, at 17:35, Alan Grayson > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, June 11, 2020 at 5:15:30 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 11 Jun 2020, at

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 12 Jun 2020, at 11:52, Philip Thrift wrote: > > On Friday, June 12, 2020 at 4:43:59 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > So when I say that a number can think, observe, or even just be (Turing) > universal, it is always a short manner to say that relatively to some “base” > phi_i, that

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-12 Thread Alan Grayson
On Friday, June 12, 2020 at 3:43:59 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 11 Jun 2020, at 17:35, Alan Grayson > > wrote: > > > > On Thursday, June 11, 2020 at 5:15:30 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 11 Jun 2020, at 04:00, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, June 8, 2020 at

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-12 Thread Philip Thrift
On Friday, June 12, 2020 at 4:43:59 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > So when I say that a number can think, observe, or even just be (Turing) > universal, it is always a short manner to say that relatively to some > “base” phi_i, that number belongs to a (true) relation making it mirroring

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 11 Jun 2020, at 17:35, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Thursday, June 11, 2020 at 5:15:30 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 11 Jun 2020, at 04:00, Alan Grayson > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 11:25:51 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> On Monday, June 8,

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-11 Thread Alan Grayson
On Thursday, June 11, 2020 at 5:15:30 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 11 Jun 2020, at 04:00, Alan Grayson > > wrote: > > > > On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 11:25:51 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 10:29:34 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-11 Thread Alan Grayson
On Thursday, June 11, 2020 at 5:10:32 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 9 Jun 2020, at 19:38, Alan Grayson > > wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 10:25:41 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 5:42:36 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 11 Jun 2020, at 04:00, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 11:25:51 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 10:29:34 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 6:26:10 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 7 Jun 2020, at

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 9 Jun 2020, at 19:38, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 10:25:41 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 5:42:36 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > On 6/8/2020 2:24 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 2:32:26 PM

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 9 Jun 2020, at 00:42, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 6/8/2020 2:24 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 2:32:26 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >> >> >> On 6/7/2020 11:21 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 8 Jun 2020, at 21:32, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 6/7/2020 11:21 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 10:00:46 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> It predicts everything, so it predicts nothing. AG >> >> >>

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 8 Jun 2020, at 19:25, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 10:29:34 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 6:26:10 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 7 Jun 2020, at 17:56, Alan Grayson > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 8 Jun 2020, at 18:29, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 6:26:10 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 7 Jun 2020, at 17:56, Alan Grayson > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 9:00:46 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> It predicts everything, so it

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-10 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 11:25:51 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 10:29:34 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 6:26:10 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 7 Jun 2020, at 17:56, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-09 Thread Alan Grayson
On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 5:04:07 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 1:51:32 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 12:46:34 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 12:38:08 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-09 Thread Philip Thrift
On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 1:51:32 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 12:46:34 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 12:38:08 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 10:25:41 AM UTC-6, Philip

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-09 Thread Alan Grayson
On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 12:46:34 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 12:38:08 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 10:25:41 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 5:42:36 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-09 Thread Philip Thrift
On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 12:38:08 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 10:25:41 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 5:42:36 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6/8/2020 2:24 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-09 Thread Alan Grayson
On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 10:25:41 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 5:42:36 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 6/8/2020 2:24 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 2:32:26 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6/7/2020 11:21 PM,

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-09 Thread Philip Thrift
On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 5:42:36 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 6/8/2020 2:24 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 2:32:26 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 6/7/2020 11:21 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 10:00:46 AM UTC-5, Alan

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-08 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 6/8/2020 2:24 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 2:32:26 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: On 6/7/2020 11:21 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 10:00:46 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: It predicts everything, so it predicts nothing. AG

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-08 Thread Philip Thrift
On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 2:32:26 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 6/7/2020 11:21 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 10:00:46 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> It predicts everything, so it predicts nothing. AG >> > > >

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-08 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 6/7/2020 11:21 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 10:00:46 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: It predicts everything, so it predicts nothing. AG http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2020/05/predictions-are-overrated.html : Predictions are overrated

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-08 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 10:29:34 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 6:26:10 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 7 Jun 2020, at 17:56, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 9:00:46 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> It predicts

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-08 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 6:26:10 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 7 Jun 2020, at 17:56, Alan Grayson > > wrote: > > > > On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 9:00:46 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> It predicts everything, so it predicts nothing. AG >> > > It's not unlike the monkey typing at

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 8 Jun 2020, at 08:21, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 10:00:46 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: > It predicts everything, so it predicts nothing. AG > > > http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2020/05/predictions-are-overrated.html >

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 7 Jun 2020, at 17:56, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 9:00:46 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > It predicts everything, so it predicts nothing. AG > > It's not unlike the monkey typing at random and coming up with Shakespeare's > plays, or the Bible. AG Using

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 7 Jun 2020, at 17:00, Alan Grayson wrote: > > It predicts everything, so it predicts nothing. AG It refutes Newton’s physics, and it makes me discover QM, including the “many-histories”, which was enough to be mocked, by people, who have eventually admitted that they were wrong (the

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-08 Thread Philip Thrift
On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 10:00:46 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: > > It predicts everything, so it predicts nothing. AG > http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2020/05/predictions-are-overrated.html : Predictions are overrated

Re: My view of Bruno's theory

2020-06-07 Thread Alan Grayson
On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 9:00:46 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > It predicts everything, so it predicts nothing. AG > It's not unlike the monkey typing at random and coming up with Shakespeare's plays, or the Bible. AG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the