[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > though I'm a TMer, I hear about Scientology in the news more because > of Tom Cruise and John Travolta's success with it. > yeah, that Tom Cruise is a happening guy: "He lists some of Scientology's selling point

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > so is Maharishi Mahesh Yogi your Master or not? > > > > If so, you are being rebellious. > > > > If not, what's the problem? Who else is telling you what to do? > > > > > > There seems to be a big assumption in

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread TurquoiseB
> > I agree more with your point of view. However if I called > > someone His Holiness as some call someone we both know of, > > I'd certainly consider that person my Master, wouldn't you? > > No. > > I don't and wouldn't follow the Dalai Lama but if I had an audience > with him I most definit

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_f

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Heaven on Earth?

2005-06-02 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have heard MMY say that Norway is sattvic. > Ingegerd > Och Sverige är icke, utan rajasik? :) > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hasn't M. associated Norway (or a country in

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"> My problem is that the organisation and the head of it > who are responsible for promulgating this wonderful thing called TM > didn't do it in a way conducive to having the most possible people > do it. If I actually thought I knew what M

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread TurquoiseB
> > > so is Maharishi Mahesh Yogi your Master or not? > > > If so, you are being rebellious. > > > If not, what's the problem? Who else is telling you what to do? > > > > There seems to be a big assumption in your discussions > > of 'Master,' namely that one must or should do what he/she > > say

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > so is Maharishi Mahesh Yogi your Master or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summer Closing and Mother Divine Benefit Sale

2005-06-02 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maharishi Spiritual University is having a Summer Closing and Mother > Divine Benefit Sale this Friday, Saturday and Sunday from 1:00 to > 4:00 p.m., with "many beautiful items 50% off. The sale includes > silk, wool, ca

[FairfieldLife] Re: "John Bolton's Nomination/Secret Downing St, Memos...'

2005-06-02 Thread jim_flanegin
oops- didn't mean to post this three times!!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Though not as much as US and Saddam during the Iran/Iraq war...and > please don't conveniently forget the technology we supplied to Saddam > to make chemical weapons

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > so is Maharishi Mahesh Yogi your Mas

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > so is Maharishi Mahesh Yogi your Master or not? > > If so, you are being rebellious. > > If not, what's the problem? Who else is tel

[FairfieldLife] New Yorker Caption Contest

2005-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk
I have had a subscription to the New Yorker magazine for the past 10 years and, when not too busy with work, will read it from cover to cover religiously each week. The one thing I NEVER miss are the cartoons which are the first thing I read when I get a new issue. I think they are the best f

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > As for your observation that it is the slowest, > > well, that's about > > as scientific and as objective as my observation > > that it is the > > fastest. > > I was just giving my own personal experience, bu

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Heaven on Earth?

2005-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Experience suggests that willytex will argue with > > > > pretty much > > > > anything you "say", whether you said it or not. > > > > > > > > And what was that remarkable phrase he used on all > > > > thread interl

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread jim_flanegin
though I'm a TMer, I hear about Scientology in the news more because of Tom Cruise and John Travolta's success with it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jeff, th

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > so is Maharishi Mahesh Yogi your Master or not? > > If so, you are being rebellious. > > If not, what's the problem? Who else is t

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > As for your observation that it is the slowest, > > well, that's about > > as scientific and as objective as my observation > > that it is the > > fastest. > > I was just giving my own personal experience, bu

[FairfieldLife] Re: "John Bolton's Nomination/Secret Downing St, Memos...'

2005-06-02 Thread TurquoiseB
>> Don't worry Richard; The US economy will collapse and the only >> hope for the country will be The United Nations. > > Lupi sounds like you have your fingers crossed! I certainly do. I think the primary hope for the world is the US economy finally having to confront its bankruptcy. It's

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread TurquoiseB
> > ---Then, the Bodhisattva transformed himself into a white elephant > > which would enter the womb of the Queen Maya, in Nepal, and be > > conceived immaculately. This Bodhisattva, who was known to the world > > as Siddhartha, became the Fourth Buddha of this Eon to teach the > > dharma anew. >

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > so is Maharishi Mahesh Yogi your Master or not? > > > I don't have a master. I do TM; there IS no master in TM. > > > > If

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Heaven on Earth?

2005-06-02 Thread TurquoiseB
> > > Experience suggests that willytex will argue with > > > pretty much > > > anything you "say", whether you said it or not. > > > > > > And what was that remarkable phrase he used on all > > > thread interlopers? I'm sure I'll see it soon... > > > > "Shut your pie hole." > > And at times so

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Heaven on Earth?

2005-06-02 Thread Ingegerd
I have heard MMY say that Norway is sattvic. Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hasn't M. associated Norway (or a country in that area) as the land of > the pole star? > > On Jun 2, 2005, at 8:55 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: > > > > >> (Though he [MMY]

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeff, thanks for talking about this. I always thought > Scientology was just a bunch of dopey hogwash. But > your experience has obviously had great value for you. > I still struggle with many aspects that I know abou

[FairfieldLife] Re: "John Bolton's Nomination/Secret Downing St, Memos...'

2005-06-02 Thread jim_flanegin
Though not as much as US and Saddam during the Iran/Iraq war...and please don't conveniently forget the technology we supplied to Saddam to make chemical weapons which he used both on Iran and the Kurds. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 6/1/

[FairfieldLife] Re: "John Bolton's Nomination/Secret Downing St, Memos...'

2005-06-02 Thread jim_flanegin
Though not as much as US and Saddam during the Iran/Iraq war...and please don't conveniently forget the technology we supplied to Saddam to make chemical weapons which he used both on Iran and the Kurds. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 6/1/

[FairfieldLife] Re: "John Bolton's Nomination/Secret Downing St, Memos...'

2005-06-02 Thread jim_flanegin
yeah, heard it on the news on TV- said 45% of the oil vouchers had been granted to usa corps, making that group the largest group of recipients. Sorry I can't be more specific. I swear I'm not making it up. However it makes sense to me, since the subject has abruptly been dropped by the congres

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ---Then, the Bodhisattva transformed himself into a white elephant > which would enter the womb of the Queen Maya, in Nepal, and be > conceived immaculately. This Bodhisattva, who was known to the > world as Sidd

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > so is Maharishi Mahesh Yogi your Master or not? > If so, you are being rebellious. > If not, what's the problem? Who else is telling you what to do? There seems to be a big assumption in your discussions of 'Maste

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Buddha Shakyamuni taught that there are infinite world systems containing an infinite number of sentient beings. Therefore, there are also countless emanations of enlightened beings to serve their awakening. There ar

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Heaven on Earth?

2005-06-02 Thread shukra69
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hasn't M. associated Norway (or a country in that area) as the land of > the pole star? You never hesitate to make stuff up do you Mike? http://www.shunyata.net/new/home.htm > > On Jun 2, 2005, at 8:55 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I remember, as a mere meditator here... We're all mere meditators here. Unless you buy into the nouveau caste system of Governors, Rajas, Recerts, and Mothers Divine that some promote to inflate ego. Unc

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "demaris4" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > When i survey the vast array of services & lifestyle

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > As for your observation that it is the slowest, > > well, that's about > > as scientific and as objective as my observation > > that it is the > > fastest. > > I was just giving my own personal experience, bu

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "demaris4" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When i survey the vast array of services & lifestyle products & > > admonitions that are now offered along with TM(tm) in my most > > s

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread Jeff Fischer
Shemp, I understand. To tell you the truth, I kept right on meditating in the beginning. Felt like a traitor every time I went to the Sci center. But I kept getting such awesome results and finally dropped the meditation, but with no malice. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 2, 2005, at 9:19 PM, gullible fool wrote: > > > I don't think it's fast at all. In fact, of all the > > myriad techniques I have done, it is the slowest. > > Maybe Maharishi came out with new stuff, sidhis in > > part

[FairfieldLife] Re: "John Bolton's Nomination/Secret Downing St, Memos...'

2005-06-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 6/1/05 12:55:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > it was found that the vast majority had > gone to usa corporations!! > > > > It was ? So say many people. You could probabl

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeff, thanks for talking about this. I always thought > Scientology was just a bunch of dopey hogwash. But > your experience has obviously had great value for you. > I still struggle with many aspects that I know abou

[FairfieldLife] Index idea

2005-06-02 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Index idea I created an index file which is in the files section. It’s purpose is to provide an index of memorable posts. I don’t have time to update it very often. I’m thinking of making this a group effort by creating an index folder in the Links section which all members could add to

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/2/05 7:20 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> imo the problem so many of us have and have had with Maharishi's

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I remember, as a mere meditator here, is MMY saying how at finer > levels of the mantra all the senses fuse. Also my experience nowadays > is that I close the eyes then a vague sense of a "mantra" comes along >

Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread gullible fool
> As for your observation that it is the slowest, > well, that's about > as scientific and as objective as my observation > that it is the > fastest. I was just giving my own personal experience, but I do constantly meet seekers in other spiritual groups who used to practice TM at one time and

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I'm a wee bit confused. > > > > Just to clarify: when you say "12 1/2 hour block", does that mean 12 > > sessions of 1/2 hour

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-02 Thread sparaig
Really? Are you sure? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Someone named "Martin". A person named Trini

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "demaris4" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When i survey the vast array of services & lifestyle products & > admonitions that are now offered along with TM(tm) in my most > sympathetic mood, I think they were brought out, not just for the $$$ > and not just to

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

2005-06-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > I'd appreciate your thoughts here. > > G The way that can be spoken is not the Constant Way. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm a wee bit confused. > > Just to clarify: when you say "12 1/2 hour block", does that mean 12 > sessions of 1/2 hour each? Or one 12 1/2 hour session (about half a > day)? > > And then you say that it "can be

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/2/05 8:04 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > That's why it upsets me that the organisation and the founder/leader > > of the organisation that promulgates TM adopts philophies and > > beliefs that g

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I just > > happen to believe > > it IS the fastest and most efficient path there > > is... > > I don't think it's fast at all. In fact, of all the > myriad techniques I have done, it is the slowest. I disagr

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > so is Maharishi Mahesh Yogi your Master or not? I don't have a master. I do TM; there IS no master in TM. > If so, you are being rebellious. > If not, what's the problem? Who said there was a problem? I was

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread demaris4
When i survey the vast array of services & lifestyle products & admonitions that are now offered along with TM(tm) in my most sympathetic mood, I think they were brought out, not just for the $$$ and not just to fight back against the Anglo-American world culture domination (a kick from the sub

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Jeff: > > > > I must admit I am a somewhat fascinated with dianetics and what you > > say above. May I ask (and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "John Bolton's Nomination/Secret Downing St, Memos...'

2005-06-02 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 6/1/05 9:41:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Conscience?  LOL!!   The French vote their wallet, just like all othernations do.  The fact that the French wallet is often in competitionwith the American wallet leads to our conflicts, not any

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "John Bolton's Nomination/Secret Downing St, Memos...'

2005-06-02 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 6/1/05 3:04:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't worry Richard; The US economy will collapse and the only hope for the country will be The United Nations. Lupi sounds like you have your fingers crossed! To subscribe, send a message to: [

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "John Bolton's Nomination/Secret Downing St, Memos...'

2005-06-02 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 6/1/05 12:55:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it was found that the vast majority had gone to usa corporations!! It was ? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click '

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "John Bolton's Nomination/Secret Downing St, Memos...'

2005-06-02 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 6/1/05 1:14:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He'sbeen known to hit the ground and lie there quivering atthe sound of a car backfiring. Oh really! Perhaps you can elaborate. Or is this just fluff? I guess you can tell a lie to get your point acr

[FairfieldLife] Lopon's July retreat in italy

2005-06-02 Thread Llundrub
This rocks. The Bon Religion is alive and indeed to some extent even flourishing today non only in tibet  but also in Nepal and in the Tibetan exile communities in India.Both In Tibet and in the exile there are several  erudite and accomplished  bonpo  master  one of the most  venerated i

Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread Vaj
On Jun 2, 2005, at 10:36 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > Oral transmission? Wasn't that Ram's yuga also? Oral, mandala and mind transmission. Not sure on Raam. Dattatreya was Treta yuga. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Summer Closing and Mother Divine Benefit Sale

2005-06-02 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Summer Closing and Mother Divine Benefit Sale on 6/2/05 9:32 PM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that is irony at its finest.  Maharishi selling darshan for a mill a pop and Mother Divine having a half off sale.    The weather moves East, and so does the

Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/2/05 8:38 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There are still teachings preserved from Buddhas in the Treta yuga > which have continued up to the present. Oral transmission? Wasn't that Ram's yuga also? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo

Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/2/05 8:04 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > That's why it upsets me that the organisation and the founder/leader > of the organisation that promulgates TM adopts philophies and > beliefs that go against the "we're not a religion or a philosophy" > tenet. The TMO should reflect wh

Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/2/05 8:27 PM, matrixmonitor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ---Then, the Bodhisattva transformed himself into a white elephant > which would enter the womb of the Queen Maya, in Nepal, and be > conceived immaculately. This Bodhisattva, who was known to the world > as Siddhartha, became the Four

Re: [FairfieldLife] Summer Closing and Mother Divine Benefit Sale

2005-06-02 Thread Llundrub
Now that is irony at its finest.  Maharishi selling darshan for a mill a pop and Mother Divine having a half off sale.               - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Summer Cl

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Heaven on Earth?

2005-06-02 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/1/05 9:29 PM, Cliff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > Experience suggests that willytex will argue with > pretty much > > anything you "say", whether you said it or not. > > > > And what was that remarkable phrase he used on all > > thread in

Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip > > I don't think it's fast at all. In fact, of all the > myriad techniques I have done, it is the slowest. > Maybe Maharishi came out with new stuff, sidhis in > particular, because he knew TM would require > multiple > lifetimes to reach just

[FairfieldLife] Summer Closing and Mother Divine Benefit Sale

2005-06-02 Thread Rick Archer
Maharishi Spiritual University is having a Summer Closing and Mother Divine Benefit Sale this Friday, Saturday and Sunday from 1:00 to 4:00 p.m., with "many beautiful items 50% off. The sale includes silk, wool, cashmere, pashmina and lace shawls, cashmere sweaters, jewelry (pearl and semi-precious

Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread Peter Sutphen
Jeff, thanks for talking about this. I always thought Scientology was just a bunch of dopey hogwash. But your experience has obviously had great value for you. I still struggle with many aspects that I know about it, but that's not your problem! --- Jeff Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ---

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditate for a Fee or for Free

2005-06-02 Thread Peter Sutphen
Kevin, a brief response to everything below: yes. It is based on my experience. I don't expect anyone to take it as universal truth because unless it is a direct experience it is just speculation and empty concept. Am I "right," am I "wrong," who knows. Just certain things/explanations/concepts are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditate for a Fee or for Free

2005-06-02 Thread shanti2218411
Peter,I respect your opinion but that is all that it is,your opinion. We've had this dicussion on this forum before(actually I've lost count).I'm pretty sure I'm very much in the minority(on FFL) but I think that the whole business of making statements re the nature of reality based on subjective s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Heaven on Earth?

2005-06-02 Thread Vaj
Hasn't M. associated Norway (or a country in that area) as the land of the pole star? On Jun 2, 2005, at 8:55 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: > >> (Though he [MMY] >> has indicated that 1000 Siddhas are waiting on the >> Polar Star for the >> right time to come to earth.) > > You heard MMY say this? I

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Jeff: > > I must admit I am a somewhat fascinated with dianetics and what you > say above. May I ask (and pardon me if you've already addressed > this): do you do TM? Is there any conflict in doing TM an

Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread Vaj
There are still teachings preserved from Buddhas in the Treta yuga which have continued up to the present. On Jun 2, 2005, at 9:27 PM, matrixmonitor wrote: > ---Then, the Bodhisattva transformed himself into a white elephant > which would enter the womb of the Queen Maya, in Nepal, and be > conc

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread matrixmonitor
---Then, the Bodhisattva transformed himself into a white elephant which would enter the womb of the Queen Maya, in Nepal, and be conceived immaculately. This Bodhisattva, who was known to the world as Siddhartha, became the Fourth Buddha of this Eon to teach the dharma anew. ...from http://www

Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread Vaj
On Jun 2, 2005, at 9:19 PM, gullible fool wrote: > I don't think it's fast at all. In fact, of all the > myriad techniques I have done, it is the slowest. > Maybe Maharishi came out with new stuff, sidhis in > particular, because he knew TM would require multiple > lifetimes to reach just CC. The

Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread gullible fool
> I just > happen to believe > it IS the fastest and most efficient path there > is... I don't think it's fast at all. In fact, of all the myriad techniques I have done, it is the slowest. Maybe Maharishi came out with new stuff, sidhis in particular, because he knew TM would require multiple l

[FairfieldLife] Planned DC office bldg to be Vedic, green

2005-06-02 Thread bbrigante
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2005-06/plos-wfv060105.php To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread jim_flanegin
so is Maharishi Mahesh Yogi your Master or not? If so, you are being rebellious. If not, what's the problem? Who else is telling you what to do? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That's why it upsets me that the organisation and the founder/leader

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With the help of an auditor (one who listens) you "return" to an > incident, recounting it as if you were truly there again. As one > continues to recount it, more details come to light and one truly is > reexpe

Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread Vaj
On Jun 2, 2005, at 6:32 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > > Is Buddha Shakyamuni the original Buddha people refer to when they > say “Buddha”? > He is the "historical" Buddha--Siddhartha Gautama--although there have been Buddhas since him and there were Buddhas before him. To subscribe, send a mess

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/2/05 7:20 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> imo the problem so many of us have and have had with Maharishi's

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread jim_flanegin
yup. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Confronting death of a loved one is pretty hard, even now. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups L

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread jim_flanegin
as someone in middle management I feel compelled to reply...(actually just a convenient excuse): How can we actually 'get rid' of anything? One of the toughest buy-ins regarding the experience of enlightenment is that we have to live *all possibilities*, whether we like it or not. The choice co

Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread Llundrub
Good explanation. Thanks. I went to the website and took the emotions/stress test there too.I am always amazed at the stories I have told myself about an unpleasnt past event, that when I fully confront or reexperience the event, turns out to be much less traumatic than the story I had at

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Heaven on Earth?

2005-06-02 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- lupidus108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip > (Though he [MMY] > has indicated that 1000 Siddhas are waiting on the > Polar Star for the > right time to come to earth.) You heard MMY say this? I doubt it very, very much. Please don't confound what MMY says with the well-intentioned B.S.

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread jim_flanegin
yeah, like Rick says, that was the old Maharishi and Movement. That's why I still do TM--> started with the basic 20x2, went veggie, learned sidhis, stopped veggie, stopped sidhis, still do the basic 20x2. Conclusion? if it ain't broke... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAI

Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread Llundrub
 > I have had great success with Dianetics in quickly resolving these types of "terrible events."  You are correct that they can create dramatic, lasting, negative effects upon people (and yes, pretty much everyone has them).It's amazing to witness someone when they've truly 'blown the cha

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditate for a Fee or for Free

2005-06-02 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- shanti2218411 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > And therein lies the problem. WHO is > confounded with > > > > WHAT. WHAT is always an object of perception, > while > > > > WHO is pure consciousness. >

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread jim_flanegin
Good explanation. Thanks. I went to the website and took the emotions/stress test there too. I am always amazed at the stories I have told myself about an unpleasnt past event, that when I fully confront or reexperience the event, turns out to be much less traumatic than the story I had attach

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditate for a Fee or for Free

2005-06-02 Thread Llundrub
  --Gee,I forgot that the discussion on this forum was suppose to bekept at highest level :).   Drooling is right. My Bad Shanti. I'm not the police, Just expressing my thoughts. For the little that they're worth. At least I'm trying to have one. Sorry. Don't mind me. Just have a fun

Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/2/05 7:20 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> imo the problem so many of us have and have had with Maharishi's >> teaching is that once we enjoyed some success with the initial >> practice of TM, we

Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread Llundrub
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master Is Buddha Shakyamuni the original Buddha people refer to when they say “Buddha”?   Yes. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and clic

[FairfieldLife] Kunsang Detchen Lingpa in New York-

2005-06-02 Thread Llundrub
Healing Chod @ Tibet House June 18th & 19thHealing Chod: Clearing Obstacles to our own innate primordial awarenessKunsang Dechen Lingpa and the nuns and monks of ZangdokpalriJune 18 from 11am-12:30pm, 3-5pmJune 19 from 11am-12:30pm, 3-5pm$175During this two-day Healing Chod ceremony, there

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread Jeff Fischer
With the help of an auditor (one who listens) you "return" to an incident, recounting it as if you were truly there again. As one continues to recount it, more details come to light and one truly is reexperiencing it. Theory is, anything you can truly fully confront can't effect you. Sometime

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > imo the problem so many of us have and have had with Maharishi's > teaching is that once we enjoyed some success with the initial > practice of TM, we then wanted a road map from Maharishi to go the > rest of the

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > I have also seen that it is critical in order to live in true > > freedom to resolve such terrible events. How to do this

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread jim_flanegin
like literally going from night to day... I am curious, can you summarize the dianetics technique briefly and generically? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: TMO ishta mantras in India] Maharishi as Master

2005-06-02 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have also seen that it is critical in order to live in true > freedom to resolve such terrible events. How to do this I can't say > for others, except to have the will to do so. As the phrase > says, 'where

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditate for a Fee or for Free

2005-06-02 Thread shanti2218411
--Gee,I forgot that the discussion on this forum was suppose to be kept at highest level :). - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If this is the content of what people have on their minds then Maharishi is right to charge a million bucks for his time. > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditate for a Fee or for Free

2005-06-02 Thread shanti2218411
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > And therein lies the problem. WHO is confounded with > > > WHAT. WHAT is always an object of pereception, while > > > WHO is pure consciousness. Without the WHAT aka body ,form there can be no perception nor any

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