[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-02 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes Barry2, in this context that must be what he meant and I have ammended the translation to reflect this view: http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/upadesh.htm#Gurudevmeditation --- In

[FairfieldLife] Iowa: not as bad as bordering South Dakota

2006-09-02 Thread bob_brigante
In examining behavior in 340 regions of the country, the survey found that 7 of the top 10 areas for under-age binge drinking — defined as five or more drinks at a time — were in Wyoming, Montana and North and South Dakota. At the other end of the scale, some of the lowest areas for under-age

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: The thing that strikes me as a little odd is that without exception,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I just think it's fascinating is all, and I look forward to what is inevitably going to happen after Maharishi himself dies. The *same*

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Unfortunately, Barry can't deal with teachers who deal in contradictions and have different answers to life's questions, depending on the state of

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Unfortunately, Barry can't deal with teachers who deal in contradictions and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield's future--MIU2

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 9/1/06 11:15 AM, jyouells2000 at jyouells@ wrote: That's not a good

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Yes Barry2, in this context that must be what he meant and I have ammended the translation to reflect this view:

[FairfieldLife] The True Believer

2006-09-02 Thread TurquoiseB
Excerpts from The True Believer, by Eric Hoffer, 1952 and other of his works. I'm posting them because they may be helpful in understanding why so many TM True Believers are so threatened by the existence of Fairfield Life and its credo (What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-02 Thread Paul Mason
Excerpts of speech made by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi (before he was known as such) in which he asked that Guru Dev's 'elevating discourses may reach the masses in every nook and corner of our country and abroad' - for full text go to http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/sources/text/Maheshspeech.htm

[FairfieldLife] What Shiva Ma did wrong

2006-09-02 Thread TurquoiseB
Application Procedure for the Invicible America Course 1. When you walk in with your application, move immediately to the right. 2. Submit your application to the Course Nazi (http://members.aol.com/rynocub/soup.jpg), showing no enthusiasm at all. 3. Put your money on the counter and move to

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had an active relationship with His Holiness for many many years. Is it out of the norm? Sure! Yes! Of course! Is it absolutely real? Sure! Yes! Of course! Should I deny it, or not speak about it, or doubt

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread Paul Mason
Guru Dev repeatedly said that he was not forwarding his own beliefs, but those of the Shastras that others should live by the Shastras, not by their own initiative. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guru Dev repeatedly said that he was not forwarding his own beliefs, but those of the Shastras that others should live by the Shastras, not by their own initiative. Yes, I believe so. But even the understanding of

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread Paul Mason
And that is a major role of the Guru to settle such disputes over the meaning of the Shastras and clarify about apparent contradictions. Which is why they are supposed to be so-o-o-o learned, AND be in the light entirely. Incidentally I am not presenting my own view on this, but that which I

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: I've had an active relationship with His Holiness for many many years. Is it out of the norm? Sure! Yes! Of course! Is it absolutely real? Sure!

[FairfieldLife] Men only?

2006-09-02 Thread cardemaister
What is the longest time youse have stayed /uurdhva-retas/(brahmacharin)? Does it become easier after a couple of weeks or so? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread Paul Mason
Okay, it is time for me to own up. I have sensed Guru Dev behind my research work since way way back, whether it be wandering in the jungle chatting with swamis or trawling the internet or puzzling over the meaning of a rarely used Sanskrit word. I guess I am an unlikely conduit for his

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, it is time for me to own up. I have sensed Guru Dev behind my research work since way way back, whether it be wandering in the jungle chatting with swamis or trawling the internet or puzzling over the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Unfortunately, Barry can't deal with teachers who deal in contradictions and have

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, it is time for me to own up. I have sensed Guru Dev behind my research work since way way back, whether it be wandering in the jungle chatting with swamis or trawling the internet or puzzling over the meaning

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And that is a major role of the Guru to settle such disputes over the meaning of the Shastras and clarify about apparent contradictions. Which is why they are supposed to be so-o-o-o learned, AND be in the light

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread Paul Mason
I anticipated the need to present Guru Dev's views on caste and soforth and I am right now working up a translation, should be ready in about half hour or so. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In almost every case, the claims themselves cannot possibly be either verified or disproven. So my personal litmus test when dealing with such claims (*especially* claims of communicating with the dead teacher) is to

[FairfieldLife] Re: The True Believer

2006-09-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excerpts from The True Believer, by Eric Hoffer, 1952 and other of his works. I'm posting them because they may be helpful in understanding why so many TM True Believers are so threatened by the existence of Fairfield

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, it is time for me to own up. I have sensed Guru Dev behind my research work since way way back, whether it be wandering in the jungle chatting with swamis or trawling the internet or puzzling over the meaning

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excerpts of speech made by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi (before he was known as such) in which he asked that Guru Dev's 'elevating discourses may reach the masses in every nook and corner of our country and abroad' - for

[FairfieldLife] Re: The True Believer

2006-09-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Excerpts from The True Believer, by Eric Hoffer, 1952 and other of his works. I'm posting them because they may be helpful in understanding why so

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the case of your ex-Guru Rama, people channeling him were doing so on an established authority within the community, which they were using to give messages. Michael, you should stick to what you actually know

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip My personal feeling is that the more one feels that they have to justify their decision to others, the greater chance there is that it was a bad one. But heaven help you if you wonder aloud in Barry's hearing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Guru Dev on varnas (castes)

2006-09-02 Thread Peter
Thank you paul. that is amazingly cool! --- Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guru Dev on Varnas (castes) http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/upadesh.htm#varnoM Guru Dev quotes from 'Bhaja Govindam' of which there is a recording of Guru Dev singing:-

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-02 Thread curtisdeltablues
Great find Paul! It also contains the first money shot for MMY. We can see where her perfected his formula. 'The great Saint of the Himalayas in coming in your midst and in the fitness of the great occasion, I appeal to your good sense to extend your valuable support so that his elevating

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: In the case of your ex-Guru Rama, people channeling him were doing so on an established authority within the community, which they were using to give

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on varnas (castes)

2006-09-02 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guru Dev on Varnas (castes) http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/upadesh.htm#varnoM Wherever happiness is to be, there nobody is brahmana, is not kshatriya, is not vaishya, is not shudra. In Paramatma there is no

[FairfieldLife] Re: Men only?

2006-09-02 Thread curtisdeltablues
I honestly think celibacy is an unhealthy practice. Use it or lose it is the rule in biology. Semen was considered magic in Vedic culture, but MMY's belief that it get transmuted into soma is just pre-scientific nonsense. The body does not work that way. On the other hand, believing that you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on varnas (castes)

2006-09-02 Thread Paul Mason
Try the Shastras? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Guru Dev on Varnas (castes) http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/upadesh.htm#varnoM Wherever happiness is to be, there

[FairfieldLife] Re: Men only?

2006-09-02 Thread Paul Mason
abstaining from sex is a messy subject --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I honestly think celibacy is an unhealthy practice. Use it or lose it is the rule in biology. Semen was considered magic in Vedic culture, but MMY's belief that it get

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on varnas (castes)

2006-09-02 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try the Shastras? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Guru Dev on Varnas (castes)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Men only?

2006-09-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I honestly think celibacy is an unhealthy practice. Use it or lose it is the rule in biology. Semen was considered magic in Vedic culture, but MMY's belief that it get transmuted into soma is just

[FairfieldLife] Re: Men only?

2006-09-02 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the longest time youse have stayed /uurdhva-retas/(brahmacharin)? Does it become easier after a couple of weeks or so? It took 2 years, in my life, my friend. But then all pictures where gone. It is not a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Men only?

2006-09-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: What is the longest time youse have stayed /uurdhva-retas/(brahmacharin)? Does it become easier after a couple of weeks or so? It took 2

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on varnas (castes)

2006-09-02 Thread Paul Mason
'From learned men or mahatmas become compliant with the Veda Shastras, understanding the relationship of one's own duty [with the dharma of others]. If you do not automatically accept the Veda Shastra enquire from them [learned men or mahatmas] the way for yourself then right away they can

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: He took GD's advice for himself... Uh, excuse me...it seems to me that

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip In this particular case, you seem to have heard and chosen to believe a rumor THAT IS NOT EVEN MOVEMENT DOGMA. I never heard such a story, and I'd be willing to believe that many others here haven't, either. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Okay, it is time for me to own up. I have sensed Guru Dev behind my research work since way way back, whether it be wandering in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread Paul Mason
Does anyone have a copy of the photograph that t3rinity is referring to? It is to the left of MMY on page 53 of 'Thirty Years Around the World'. It looks like the photo that the puja portrait was painted from. An in-transit picture is at:-

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread Paul Mason
What bar are you propping up today? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd marwincornyarmand@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Okay, it is time for me to

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Okay, it is time for me to own up. I have sensed Guru Dev behind my research work since way way back, whether it be wandering in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Scambug and fault apple?

2006-09-02 Thread Paul Mason
Know yourself. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What bar are you propping up today? I'm just having a peek into your future my friend. It's spontanous, can't help it. Amend your ways. Why create more karma than necessary. We should long for the opposite. --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Never thought I would see this.

2006-09-02 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Never thought I would see this. on 9/1/06 8:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: End of an Affair http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/31/AR2006083101460_pf.html FOCUS | Larry C. Johnson: Smearing the Wilsons and Sliming

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why Maharishi cut your scorpion-country off is getting more and more obvious with people like you on board. Obviously, you will reap what you sow. As we all shall. But you, my friend; be prepared

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why Maharishi cut your scorpion-country off is getting more and more obvious with people like you on board. Obviously, you will reap what you sow. As we all shall. But you, my friend; be prepared for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread Peter
--- nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What bar are you propping up today? I'm just having a peek into your future my friend. It's spontanous, can't help it. Amend your ways. Why create more karma than

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Men only?

2006-09-02 Thread Peter
I'm with you on this one, Curtis. If celibacy comes naturally, with no thought or strain, then fine. But most people need to have sex and guess what, it has no impact on your evolution at all. People can be so unsimple and so un-natural in the TMO. --- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread Paul Mason
Isn't the puja painting by Acharya. Clearly, Raj Varma painted portraits of Guru Dev, but I'm not sure which. I wrote to him back in the 1970's and asked him for any photos of Guru Dev that he had taken. He sent me about half a dozen which alas are no longer accessible, but hopefully, they

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Does anyone have a copy of the photograph that t3rinity is referring to? It is to the left of MMY on page 53 of 'Thirty

[FairfieldLife] Re: Men only?

2006-09-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm with you on this one, Curtis. If celibacy comes naturally, with no thought or strain, then fine. But most people need to have sex and guess what, it has no impact on your evolution at all. People can be so unsimple and

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread Ingegerd
I have some notes from 9th February 1970, where MMY talks about the start of SRM, the notes is written from a Audio Tape: When Guru Dev left his body I retired to the Himalayas where Guru Dev had met his Guru Dev. I felt I should go to Ramesh Waroom - I asked the saints. One was 90 years old.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Men only?

2006-09-02 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm with you on this one, Curtis. If celibacy comes naturally, with no thought or strain, then fine. But most people need to have sex and guess what, it has no impact on your evolution at all. People can be so unsimple and

[FairfieldLife] 'News Organizations Helping To Fuel Chaos Terror'

2006-09-02 Thread Robert Gimbel
Many [if not all] ofthe news organizations; Especially, here, in the United States; Have been complicit in their propagating fear and terror. They were absolutely complicit in the unquestioning build-up- To the Iraqi Invasion... They continue to fear monger every stupid utterance of every

[FairfieldLife] Re: Men only?

2006-09-02 Thread curtisdeltablues
Kind of amazing how personal some posts are. I appreciate your openness. I learned a new word today: gynophobic, fear of or contempt for women! Subtly different from misogyny hatred, dislike, or mistrust of women, which is another word for this common attitude in some men in certain spiritual

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'News Organizations Helping To Fuel Chaos Terror'

2006-09-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many [if not all] of the news organizations; Especially, here, in the United States; Have been complicit in their propagating fear and terror. They were absolutely complicit in the unquestioning build-up-

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'News Organizations Helping To Fuel Chaos Terror'

2006-09-02 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: Many [if not all] of the news organizations; Especially, here, in the United States; Have been complicit in their propagating fear and

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'News Organizations Helping To Fuel Chaos Terror'

2006-09-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: Many [if not all] of the news organizations; Especially, here,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guru Dev repeatedly said that he was not forwarding his own beliefs, but those of the Shastras that others should live by the Shastras, not by their own initiative. That was his job, afterall... While every good

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Guru Dev repeatedly said that he was not forwarding his own beliefs, but those of the Shastras that others should live by the Shastras, not

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] It is this last phenomenon I expect to happen a LOT in the TM movement when Maharishi finally dies. I expect there to be at least half a dozen folks who start hearing messages from Maharishi and that mini-cults

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And that is a major role of the Guru to settle such disputes over the meaning of the Shastras and clarify about apparent contradictions. Which is why they are supposed to be so-o-o-o learned, AND be in the light

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Is passage thru the Ajna Chakra (third eye) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread wmurphy77
I've only been meditating for 37 years (TM govenor/Siddha...in poor standing)and don't really know...any takers? BillyG. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Okay, it is time for me to own up. I have sensed Guru Dev behind my research work since way way back, whether it be wandering in the jungle

[FairfieldLife] Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread wmurphy77
I've only been meditating for 37 years (TM govenor/Siddha...in poor standing)and don't really know...any takers? BillyG. (previous subject line cut off) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lasik in Cambodia

2006-09-02 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given their past, I assume that lasik surgury in Cambodia must be booming...more so than any other country. *** http://www.salon.com/mwt/col/tenn/2006/08/29/lasik/index_np.html To subscribe,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Men only?

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the longest time youse have stayed /uurdhva-retas/(brahmacharin)? Does it become easier after a couple of weeks or so? Many years. And perhaps it does get easier, or perhaps I've only gotten old and fat,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on varnas (castes)

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Try the Shastras? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason

[FairfieldLife] Re: Men only?

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: What is the longest time youse have stayed /uurdhva-retas/(brahmacharin)? Does it become easier after a couple of weeks or so? It took 2

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd marwincornyarmand@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Okay, it is time for me to own up. I have sensed Guru Dev behind my research work since way way back, whether it be wandering in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd marwincornyarmand@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Okay, it is time for me to own up. I have sensed Guru Dev behind

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vision of Guru Dev by MMY? Never heard it before today. Never heard of him 'painting a picture' before, unless you mean colouring a photograph which you mentioned over on the googlegroup many many months back, as I

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: What bar are you propping up today? I'm just having a peek into your future my friend. It's spontanous, can't help it. Amend your ways. Why

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread Paul Mason
on 8/7/06 4:32 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been practising transcendental meditation regularly for well over three decades now, but that has not made me a 'true believer'. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Men only?

2006-09-02 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kind of amazing how personal some posts are. I appreciate your openness. I learned a new word today: gynophobic, fear of or contempt for women! I'd never write like that using my real name. I think one aspect

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/7/06 4:32 PM, Paul Mason at premanandpaul@ wrote: I have been practising transcendental meditation regularly for well over three decades now, but that has not made me a 'true believer'. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've only been meditating for 37 years (TM govenor/Siddha...in poor standing)and don't really know...any takers? BillyG. (previous subject line cut off) Hi, I think yes, it probably is, though I had such an

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Unfortunately, Barry can't deal with teachers who deal in contradictions and have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is passage thru the Ajna Chakra (third eye) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've only been meditating for 37 years (TM govenor/Siddha...in poor standing)and don't really know...any takers? BillyG. MMY never discusses Chakras. Good luck with making something up concerning THAT aspect of TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread Paul Mason
I have been practising transcendental meditation twice a day since October 1970. Oh a few times when I have been travelling or sick, I guess I went to sleep, did anyone else go there? Oh, and for the sake of research I have experimented with variants of the technique for some days at a time.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: I've only been meditating for 37 years (TM govenor/Siddha...in poor standing)and don't really know...any takers? BillyG. (previous subject line

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to clarify, I think Jim's handling his report- ing of his own subjective experiences fairly well. But I have seen other folks, in the Rama trip and others, who *definitely* used their visions of the now-dead

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been practising transcendental meditation twice a day since October 1970. Oh a few times when I have been travelling or sick, I guess I went to sleep, did anyone else go there? Oh, and for the sake of research

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread Paul Mason
Correction: for the record I dropped practice for a few weeks after seeing the look in MMYs eyes whilst standing near him in Royal Albert Hall London in the mid-1970's. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been practising transcendental meditation

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