Ok, let's deal with YOUR issue here.
You called me the 12 year old a couple of days ago. It's
these kind of snide remarks that neutralise, all the good
points you make, and turns things here sour.
If you keep your criticisms impersonal, you would certainly
be the most brilliant poster
Yes, Jedi, a reasoned response.
But for Barry to focus on his own issues?
Does the snowball in hell analogy come to mind.
(but, most brilliant poster here?)
can you rein that one back, just a tad. (-:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blue_bungalow_2@... wrote :
Ok,
From: blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 11:58 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
Ok, let's deal with YOUR issue here.
You called me the 12 year old
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
shower running in the background
Barry, humming his fave Bruce Cockburn tune, steps out, notices the floor got
all wet - let the fukin' roomies mop it up... Hey good lookin'... he says
to the mirror, imagining him and
Great idea! Here's mine:
He removed his scuba regulator, “What a perfectly fine day!” Fleetwood
exclaimed, as he looked approvingly around in his undersea club house.
Well, actually, from the outside, it was a shipping container, inside a
swimming pool. He was already thinking of painting
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
Great idea! Here's mine:
He removed his scuba regulator, “What a perfectly fine day!” Fleetwood
exclaimed, as he looked approvingly around in his undersea club house.
Well, actually, from the outside, it was a
deep gongs of a massive carved walnut grandfather clock oh...3 AM - Ah,
great to sleep in, eh?, Ann thought sleepily to herself, in Canadian-speak.
Having slept in her jodphurs, and helmet, she pulled on her boots by the side
of the bed, then completing her riding outfit, she strode across the
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Salyavin,
If you believe that the universe is based in consciousness,
I don't. That's the problem, just believing stuff about the universe and
hoping you can find enough things to justify beliefs you have already decided
are
@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Salyavin,
If you believe that the universe is based in consciousness,
I don't. That's the problem, just believing
pedlars on the conference circuit
obviously.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq
looking for deeper truths and being open to new
information.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq
Setting aside the efficacy of those who maintain there are are other beings out
there, you don't even have their story straight.
You invent a narrative contrary to their position and attempt to discredit it
on that basis.
You've really developed a bad habit along these lines.
Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Salyavin,
If you believe that the universe is based in consciousness,
I don't. That's the problem, just believing stuff
for deeper truths and being open to new
information.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote
you stop looking for deeper truths and being open to new
information.
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
---In FairfieldLife
to be
nonsense, they believe even more strongly. Truly an accomplishment...
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
and being open to new
information.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Salyavin
: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Salyavin,
If you believe that the universe is based
From: blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 1:29 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
Relax Steve, have you re-incarnated as Judy here? Some
change seems
: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Salyavin,
If you believe that the universe is based
, that is the
point at which you stop looking for deeper truths and being open to new
information.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact
, October 9, 2014 1:29 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
Relax Steve, have you re-incarnated as Judy here? Some
change seems to have come over you.
Listen, you just can't bother about him. You will be wasting
your life that way. Judy wasted hers. Jim
On 10/9/2014 1:58 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
The stuff they believe doesn't need to be reasonable, it doesn't need
to follow the laws of physics or chemistry, and it doesn't depend on
any kind of evidence. In fact, when presented with evidence that
proves
On 10/9/2014 3:54 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
The stuff they believe doesn't need to be reasonable, it doesn't need
to follow the laws of physics or chemistry, and it doesn't depend on
any kind of evidence. In fact, when presented with evidence that
proves their belief to be nonsense, they believe
stop looking for deeper truths and being
open to new information.
*From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:11 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
On 10/9/2014 6:33 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Frankly, doing absolutely nothing except stirring the pot here, makes
you appear as kind of a loser, to normal people.
/Having been a military brat myself I can understand how an expat like
Barry can be lonely and
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
Sometimes I think that Maharishi's greatest accomplishment should be listed
as having taken so many at-one-time-fairly-intelligent people and, over time,
turned them into weak-minded, gullible idiots like jr_esq, Share, srijau,
On 10/9/2014 6:56 AM, blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
You know Steve, it took others years to find his true
character. Bob Price managed to find that out in just a few
minutes time. Bob's so sharp, Uncle Tantra cannot face him.
Uncle Tantra's criticism is designed to be
.
Truly an accomplishment...
*From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:11 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
it makes them feel more self-important and 'special' for believing it.
Now, it may come as a complete shock to you, dude, but you appear pretty
damned self-important, and 'special', most of the time, pronouncing
: Thursday, October 9, 2014 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
Sometimes I think that Maharishi's greatest accomplishment should be listed
On 10/9/2014 6:56 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
*From:* blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, October 9, 2014 1:29 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant
The stuff they believe doesn't need to be reasonable, it doesn't need
to follow the laws of physics or chemistry, and it doesn't depend on
any kind of evidence. In fact, when presented with evidence that
proves their belief to be nonsense, they believe even more strongly.
Truly an
From: blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 1:56 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
You know Steve, it took others years to find his [Barry's]true
character
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blue_bungalow_2@... wrote :
You know Steve, it took others years to find his true
character. Bob Price managed to find that out in just a few
minutes time. Bob's so sharp, Uncle Tantra cannot face him.
Uncle Tantra's criticism is designed to be
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
From: blue_bungalow_2@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 1:56 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
You know
It also really bothers him that we continually comment on him, not giving a fig
for his response. He apparently like to feel embattled, and almost as a martyr,
who tries his best to bring The Light to the unwashed masses. He is really
quite crazy, now. About ten years ago, Barry was all about
belief system and that no one else
agrees with him. Apart from the other yagya pedlars on the conference circuit
obviously.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too
YOU ARE SIMPLY NOT INTERESTING ENOUGH FOR ME TO BOTHER ARGUING WITH.
YOU NEVER WILL BE, NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT ME.
On 10/9/2014 12:43 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
*You really told him, bawee. Guess he got under your skin. Did your
keyboard melt while you were
On 10/9/2014 4:10 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
It also really bothers him that we continually comment on him, not
giving a fig for his response. He apparently like to feel embattled,
and almost as a martyr, who tries his best to bring The Light to the
unwashed
...
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Salyavin,
If you believe that the universe
Richard,
Barry wouldn't understand you're talking about him. He knows he's right all
the time.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
On 10/9/2014 3:54 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
The stuff they believe doesn't need to be reasonable, it doesn't need to
follow the laws
@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 1:56 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
You know Steve, it took others years to find his [Barry's] true
character. Bob Price managed to find
Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Salyavin,
If you believe that the universe is based in consciousness,
I don't. That's the problem, just believing stuff
of something, that is the
point at which you stop looking for deeper truths and being open to new
information.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant
: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
You know Steve, it took others years to find his [Barry's] true
character. Bob Price managed to find that out in just a few
minutes time. Bob's so sharp, Uncle Tantra cannot face him.
Uncle Tantra's criticism is designed to be offensive in a
sadistic sense
I think what we see here, and it is rather humorous, is this martyrdom meme
he's created.
And then threatening someone with putting him on his DNR list.
Yes, I do feel some pity.
Michael, Michael, step in here. Tell him again how you were launched into
ecstasy reading Road Trip.
, the humanity!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
From: blue_bungalow_2@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 1:56 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
You know
--- jr_esq@... wrote :
Yes, probably so, if the means of communication is through light or radio
waves. As such, the speed of communication is limited by the speed of light.
But it is theoretically possible to contact ETs through telepathic means or
lucid dreaming.
Why? Because
S3,
That's a good question. We may not get any message back at all since the
radio waves are relatively slow in comparison to the large distances involved
in the scale of the Milky Way and the entire universe. Also, the earth-like
planets near us may not have any advanced civilizations
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
S3,
That's a good question. We may not get any message back at all since the
radio waves are relatively slow in comparison to the large distances involved
in the scale of the Milky Way and the entire universe. Also, the
Blueb2,
The Urvasi story can be interpreted in many ways. The late Srila Prabhupada
of ISKCON fame stated, in his commentary to the Srimad Bhagavatam, that this
story was about in-vitro fertilization. Why? Because the story involved two
rishis who saw Urvasi taking her bath by the river.
The speed of light problem is solvable if The Absolute is God.
The mechanics: a person on Earth, being perfectly enlightened, (not merely in
CC,) deconstructs his/her body/mind system with a final thought/prayer to
indicate to the Absolute what is relatively intended.
Then that person goes
Edg,
I'm somewhat thinking along the same line that you're pointing out here. For
example, if the universe is based on consciousness, then our thoughts are
instantaneously connected with the rest of the universe. IOW, our thoughts are
entangled in a quantum sense with the rest of the
This discussion pretty much covers the next space travel options.
Interstellar Flight: Risks and Assumptions
http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=31706
http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=31706
Interstellar Flight: Risks and Assumptions
http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=31706 The
Salyavin,
If you believe that the universe is based in consciousness, then our thoughts
are somehow entangled in a quantum sense with the rest of the universe. So,
it is possible to communicate telepathically with other sentient beings
instantaneously in our galaxy or with the rest of the
At the speed of light, any Martians, for example, are four minutes away. Nuke a
dinner in the microwave - by the time it is done, you got Martians, door to
door. That quick.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Yes, probably so, if the means of communication is through
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Yes, probably so, if the means of communication is through light or radio
waves.
I enjoyed that moment in the movie Contact where the first TV signal that
aliens would have received from Earth was Hitler's speech at the 1936
According to King Tony, the planets are part of our physiology which are
located in our brain.
MMY mentioned that the planets are the impulses of intelligence. As such, a
part of us has a Martian quality. So, depending on the situation, the Martian
impulse becomes more prominent in our
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