Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-08 Thread Peter
--- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: Jerry: Nisargadatta? Is this a guru? I goodled him and that's what it seems? Extreme non-dual guy. Died, I think, in the early 90's. Where Ramana was sweet, Nisargadatta was a hard bastard! There are several books out of his dialogs. He

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-08 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: Jerry: Nisargadatta? Is this a guru? I goodled him and that's what it seems? Extreme non-dual guy. Died, I think, in the early 90's. Where Ramana was sweet,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-07 Thread Peter
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/6/06 6:15 PM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel the need to point out the cowhig, dector and wilson raised and lost millions and millions of $$ from gullible sidhas for their governors business. Really poor ethics

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-07 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/6/06 6:15 PM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel the need to point out the cowhig, dector and wilson raised and lost millions and millions of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-07 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/6/06 6:15 PM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel the need to point out the cowhig, dector and wilson raised and lost millions and millions of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-07 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/6/06 6:15 PM, markmeredith2002 at markmeredith@ wrote: I feel the need to point out

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-07 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?) on 8/7/06 7:57 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:groups%40searchsummit.com wrote: on 8/6/06 6:15 PM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-07 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/6/06 4:28 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick: I'd really love it if you would go over the list name by name and tell us where they are now and whether they're still doing TM, etc. OK.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-07 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?) on 8/7/06 10:31 AM, Ingegerd at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didrik and Patrick Blad and another brother Dont know. What I heard was that Didrik and Patrick Blad turned to Saj Baba after leaving

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/6/06 8:03 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doing fine I suspect. Somewhere in Canada. Was working with John Cowhig and Gregg Wilson. I feel the need to point out the cowhig, dector

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-07 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor uns_tressor@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: It's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Enjoying pain implies empathy, just inverted. No.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/6/06 6:15 PM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel the need to point out the cowhig, dector and wilson raised and lost millions and millions of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/7/06 7:57 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:groups%40searchsummit.com wrote: on 8/6/06 6:15 PM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] What I heard was that Didrik and Patrick Blad turned to Saj Baba after leaving MMY. Ingegerd Which fits in quite well with MMY's unstressing theory of why people stop doing TM... To subscribe, send a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-07 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
Maybe you're doing it wrong. Good one! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: One of the first

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the first indications that all was not cool in the Emerald City was when I was still flying and a chiropractor took my back X-rays after I had thrown my back out. He said So how long have you been jogging?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
Core training refers to a body of information gathered by physical therapist about the balance of strength and flexibility needed for our muscle system function properly. Sports trainers have learned so much about rehabbing injuries and some physical trainers are using it as the basic exercise

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Vaj
On Aug 6, 2006, at 10:01 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the first indications that all was not cool in the Emerald City was when I was still flying and a chiropractor took my back X-rays after I had thrown my

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Vaj
On Aug 6, 2006, at 1:04 AM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the first indications that all was not cool in the Emerald  City was when I was still flying and a chiropractor took my back X-rays after I had thrown my back

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
Really has a lot to do with not knowing what you're doing and using people as guinea pigs. In traditional yogic flying, the entire first stage is from a standing, bent-knee position and done as a step/jump kinda thing. Instead of injuring one, it builds strength, stamina and numeorus yogic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Vaj
On Aug 6, 2006, at 10:01 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the first indications that all was not cool in the Emerald Citywas when I was still flying and a chiropractor took my back X-raysafter I had thrown my back

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread wayback71
I started Pilates about 2 months ago and really enjoy the workout as well as the results - which for me involves good, relaxed posture in the shoulders and feeling and moving really tall. I never have had back problems. I have done yoga, including Iyengar and Anusara for years, but the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you're doing it wrong. Good one! Thanks. I meant that as a response to Judy rather than Rick's wife...I hope that came across. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Vaj
On Aug 6, 2006, at 11:12 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:"Really has a lot to do with not knowing what you're doing and using people as guinea pigs. In traditional yogic flying, the entire first stage is from a standing, bent-knee position and done as a step/jump kinda thing. Instead of injuring

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
I thought you were referring to the MIU geniuses who claimed that I had never meditated correctly after I left the movement. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Maybe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 6, 2006, at 1:04 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: One of the first indications that all was not cool in the Emerald City was when I was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 6, 2006, at 10:01 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: One of the first indications that all was not cool in the Emerald City was when

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought you were referring to the MIU geniuses who claimed that I had never meditated correctly after I left the movement. Oh, yes! That was the main point...but specifically directed to Judy. ---

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Vaj
On Aug 6, 2006, at 12:10 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 6, 2006, at 10:01 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" curtisdeltablues@ wrote: One of the first indications that all was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 6, 2006, at 1:04 AM, authfriend wrote: snip FWIW, unlike many people I know who are my age (and even younger), I do not have any lower back problems. And I'm a *very* active hopper. Never had a sore butt or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 6, 2006, at 12:10 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip In traditional yogic flying, Huh? There's a Yogic Flying Tradition One that goes back

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread wayback71
One book I found wonderful years ago is called Way of the White Clouds by Lama Anagarika Govinda - he was a Westerner who was Buddhist and spent a good deal of time in Tibet in the 1930's and 40's as I recall. He witnessed the lung-gom-pa runners and reports on the wonderful art and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought you were referring to the MIU geniuses who claimed that I had never meditated correctly after I left the movement. Curtis, I do not remember if I repeated this incident here at FFL. When Mahesh first

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Vaj
Yeah, that book's a classic. Alexandra David-Neel also has a nice written account of coming across a lung-gompa in her one book. There are also some on this list who have witnessed them.On Aug 6, 2006, at 1:40 PM, wayback71 wrote:One book I found wonderful years ago is called Way of the White

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really has a lot to do with not knowing what you're doing and using people as guinea pigs. In traditional yogic flying, the entire first stage is from a standing, bent-knee position and done as a step/jump

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
Great story! It sounds like you had the MMY job with Guru Dev for a while, reading his mail, how interesting. Paul Marashall, who was an M initiator, told me that he asked MMY about non M initiators teaching monks and priests with the householder set of mantras. MMY told him Just let them use

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks for the tip, I just put it on my Netflix queue. Looks interestng. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Really has a lot to do with not knowing what you're doing and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Vaj
On Aug 6, 2006, at 3:03 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:Great story!  It sounds like you had the MMY job with Guru Dev for a while, reading his mail, how interesting.  Paul Marashall, who was an M initiator, told me that he asked MMY about non M initiators teaching monks and priests with the 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great story! It sounds like you had the MMY job with Guru Dev for a while, reading his mail, how interesting. Paul Marashall, who was an M initiator, told me that he asked MMY about non M initiators teaching

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
I really dug his book with the section on meeting Guru Dev. I visited his place in Honesdale PA once in the Summer between MIU years. Never got to meet him though. Did you know him? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 6, 2006, at 3:03 PM,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?) on 8/6/06 1:44 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought you were

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 6, 2006, at 11:12 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Really has a lot to do with not knowing what you're doing and using people as guinea pigs. In traditional yogic flying, the entire first stage is from a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
I think it is great that you got to that level of exposure. It gives you a rare perspective on the whole thing that is really rare. Plus at the time you must have really been having a blast around the nuttiness of MMY. People around him were so intense and eccentric weren't they? But to have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread gerbal88
Great story, Rick -- but I never had the feeling Mahesh was any more omniscient than the average gyspy fortune teller who could read people, like any sociopath. [See James Randi on cold reading.] Sociopath, I should add, is not necessarily a pejorative term: it simply indicates someone who has

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Vaj
On Aug 6, 2006, at 3:18 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:I really dug his book with the section on meeting Guru Dev.  I visited his place in Honesdale PA once in the Summer between MIU years. Never got to meet him though.  Did you know him? Only in passing. I studied under his Patanjali pundit.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it is great that you got to that level of exposure. It gives you a rare perspective on the whole thing that is really rare. Plus at the time you must have really been having a blast around the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Vaj
On Aug 6, 2006, at 3:29 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 6, 2006, at 11:12 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: "Really has a lot to do with not knowing what you're doing and  using people as guinea pigs. In traditional yogic flying, the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?) on 8/6/06 2:53 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gerbal, Im curious who you are. I presume youre maintaining anonymity intentionally. Are you on this list of MMYs personal secretaries?: Dr. Hyslop

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 6, 2006, at 3:29 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 6, 2006, at 11:12 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Really has a lot to do with not knowing what you're

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
One of the best books I have read this year is called The Sociopath Next Door by Martha Stout. The condition is far more common than I had realized, 1 in 25. Only a tiny percentage of them are criminals. Most just operate in society without a conscience. Wherever they are they take delight in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread gerbal88
Sorry, Rick, Gotta maintain anonymity. While not on the list, I am concurrent with Billy, Lewis and Shanon. I didn't carry the dear skin. But was very, very close to Mahesh in Mallorca, Fiuggi and La Antilla. I have a funny story about the deer skin in La Antilla, maybe I'll tell it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Core training refers to a body of information gathered by physical therapist about the balance of strength and flexibility needed for our muscle system function properly. Sports trainers have learned so much

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 6, 2006, at 10:01 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: One of the first indications that all was not cool in the Emerald City was when

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 5, 2006, at 2:37 PM, Michael Dean Goodman wrote: shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] Thankfully the recerts (why do I think of Blade Runner and other science-fiction every time I hear the term recerts?)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/6/06 1:44 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I thought you were referring

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 6, 2006, at 3:29 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 6, 2006, at 11:12 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Really has a lot to do with not knowing what you're

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great story! It sounds like you had the MMY job with Guru Dev for a while, reading his mail, how interesting. Paul Marashall, who was an M initiator, told me that he asked MMY about non M initiators teaching

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 6, 2006, at 3:29 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 6, 2006, at 11:12 AM,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It's one of the wealthiest areas of the country. Presumably this is the sector TM is marketed towards and only 30 a year are taking it in that area? That's a very small amount. I would guess comparison to SSRS's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread gerbal88
Thanks for taking the time to post this, Curtis. Hopefully it will help many people (here and elsewhere) and help keep FFL aflote despite the tendency of she-who-cannot-be-named to try to drag actual discussion down to that level of utter futility we all sense. I do not know how to explain

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Shows you how real it all is/was. A lot of spin, and we all bought it. Did you ever actually learn and practice TM, Vaj? Just curious. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Vaj
On Aug 6, 2006, at 4:43 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It's one of the wealthiest areas of the country. Presumably this  is the sector TM is marketed towards and only 30 a year are taking  it in that area? That's a very small amount.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for taking the time to post this, Curtis. Hopefully it will help many people (here and elsewhere) and help keep FFL aflote despite the tendency of she-who-cannot-be-named to try to drag actual discussion down

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 6, 2006, at 4:43 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip It's one of the wealthiest areas of the country. Presumably this is the sector TM is marketed towards and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
So, do splits count to stretch ligaments? I don't know if splits stretches ligaments. Usually that kind of exercise is for specialized training like gymnastics or some kicking styles in martial arts. It may be too extreme a stretch for most athletic activities. It requires an opposing strength

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 6, 2006, at 4:43 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip It's one of the wealthiest areas of the country. Presumably this is the sector TM is marketed towards and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Sal Sunshine
Curtis, this is on my list! But, cheapskate that I am, I haven't been able to find a good deal on a used one yet. Glad to hear you read and enjoyed it. On Aug 6, 2006, at 3:11 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: One of the best books I have read this year is called The Sociopath Next Door by

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis, this is on my list! But, cheapskate that I am, I haven't been able to find a good deal on a used one yet. Glad to hear you read and enjoyed it. On Aug 6, 2006, at 3:11 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: One

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis, this is on my list! But, cheapskate that I am, I haven't been able to find a good deal on a used one yet. Glad to hear you read and enjoyed it. On Aug 6, 2006, at 3:11 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: One

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great story! It sounds like you had the MMY job with Guru Dev for a while, reading his mail, how interesting. Paul Marashall, who was an M initiator, told me that he asked MMY about non M initiators teaching

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I think it is great that you got to that level of exposure. It gives you a rare perspective on the whole thing that is really rare.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/6/06 2:53 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gerbal, I¹m curious who you are. I presume you¹re maintaining anonymity intentionally. Are you on this list of MMY¹s personal secretaries?: Dr. Hyslop ­

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
Rick: I'd really love it if you would go over the list name by name and tell us where they are now and whether they're still doing TM, etc. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/6/06 2:53 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gerbal, I¹m

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Great story! It sounds like you had the MMY job with Guru Dev for a while, reading his mail, how interesting. Paul Marashall, who

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I think it is great that you got to that level of exposure. It

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
Hey Sal, It is in all the libraries around here. It is both chilling and comforting. It explains a lot. I think 1 in 100 have diabetes, and we all know someone with that. Here we have 1 in 25, so that pretty much means this is a condition for a few people we know. The case histories in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
He is in a Cistercian monastery in Conyers, Georgia last I heard. That is the place he was before his years in the movement. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Great

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
I think he was referring to their fuckability factor. Yes that is it. Celibacy was the criteria for the M techniques according to Paul. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: Curtis, this is on my list! But, cheapskate that I am, I haven't been able to find a good deal on a used one yet. Glad to hear you read and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?) on 8/6/06 3:54 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, according to a friend of his from his undergrad days, he was discussing the possibility that QM would account for Yogic Flying while still

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: It's also sad that some people are still burning a candle for it all. There will always be enablers for the sociopaths and always those who never see beyond

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?) on 8/6/06 4:28 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick: I'd really love it if you would go over the list name by name and tell us where they are now and whether they're still doing TM, etc.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?) on 8/6/06 4:34 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good for you. Lillian could be an absolute misery. But when she and I went for long walks, she was actually quite nice and seemed to need a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
You might have to read the book to understand the concept. According to the author they can get a real kick out of inflicting psychological pain on others. It is a game for them. They enjoy seeing others squirm before their power to inflict misery. They are not robots with no emotions, they

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: It's also sad that some people are still burning a candle for it all. There will

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might have to read the book to understand the concept. According to the author they can get a real kick out of inflicting psychological pain on others. It is a game for them. They enjoy seeing others

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Sal Sunshine
Curtis, OK, found a good deal from Amazon, so it should be on its way tomorrow. On Aug 6, 2006, at 4:31 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Hey Sal, It is in all the libraries around here. It is both chilling and comforting. It explains a lot. I think 1 in 100 have diabetes, and we all know

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
Enjoying pain implies empathy, just inverted. No. That is not how they are processing it according to this author. A sadist may operate the way you describe, from empathy. But the result is that sociopaths experience pleasure in tormenting others as if it is a game and they are winning. Are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
Cool! I look forward to your perspective on it. I have shared it with some friends and it provokes a lot of thought. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis, OK, found a good deal from Amazon, so it should be on its way tomorrow. On Aug 6,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enjoying pain implies empathy, just inverted. No. That is not how they are processing it according to this author. A sadist may operate the way you describe, from empathy. But the result is that sociopaths

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
Right. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Enjoying pain implies empathy, just inverted. No. That is not how they are processing it according to this author. A

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Cowhig Working for a guitar company in Canada. Spending lots of time in the woods Ron Dector Doing fine I suspect. Somewhere in Canada. Was working with John Cowhig and Gregg Wilson. I feel the need

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor uns_tressor@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: It's also sad

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?) on 8/6/06 6:15 PM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel the need to point out the cowhig, dector and wilson raised and lost millions and millions of $$ from gullible sidhas for their

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
I think you missed one of my favorite guys from the old days: Steve Sheimer (sp?). Very human and approachable. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/6/06 4:28 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick: I'd really love it if you would

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 6, 2006, at 4:43 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip It's one of the wealthiest areas of the country. Presumably this is the sector TM is marketed towards and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of people learning TM (was: Victory Beef or War?)

2006-08-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: John Cowhig Working for a guitar company in Canada. Spending lots of time in the woods Ron Dector Doing fine I suspect.

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