[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This subject has had a lot of play here from time to time and I > thought the following quotation from the book I Reality and > Subjectivity by David Hawkins was a very suscinct answer. Page 35

[FairfieldLife] Clouds

2005-10-12 Thread TurquoiseB
Not really relevant to anything, just some really neat cloud photos from your neighboring state: http://www.hprcc.unl.edu/nebraska/june2004hastings-mammatus.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yah

Re: [FairfieldLife] Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread Vaj
Interesting, no mention of the teacher. Who's David Hawkins BTW? On Oct 11, 2005, at 11:56 PM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote: > This subject has had a lot of play here from time to time and I > thought the following quotation from the book I Reality and > Subjectivity by David Hawkins

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-12 Thread feste37
This is a big movement. People in it die, just like everyone else. The idea that there is something mysterious about it is ridiculous, in my opinion. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECT

[FairfieldLife] War Humor

2005-10-12 Thread anonymousff
Q: How many Bush Administration officials does it take to screw in a light bulb? A: None. There is nothing wrong with the light bulb; its conditions are improving every day. Any reports of its lack of incandescence are a delusional spin from the liberal media. That light bulb has served honora

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-12 Thread Patrick Gillam
Ed Goldfinger was felled by heart failure in the mid-90s or so. He was what, 50? Was Ed Tarabilda in his 50s? Sandy Kopff was 47 when her car slid into an oncoming truck between Fairfield and Ottumwa. I'm told the accident was one she was trying to avoid by virtue of having been warned by a j

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread Paula Youmans
Irmeli wrote: People can get enlightened without these inner structures. Then they tend to think they are fully perfect as they are and also superior beings. They desperately need their enlightenment to be seen, and themselves to be seen as superior, because that is their personality s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread Vaj
On Oct 12, 2005, at 6:22 AM, Irmeli Mattsson wrote:When we  discuss enlightenment the concepts we use tend to be quite confusing, because different individuals mean different things by those concepts. Interesting thing I've noticed is that of those of us who were weaned on the "7 states of consci

[FairfieldLife] the monkey story..

2005-10-12 Thread anonymousff
I'm talking about the research that found that once you taught 100 monkeys a trick and they learn something then in a different place other monkeys learn the same thing much faster. some consciousness connection. anyone remembers the monkey story? I'm looking for a link to the story or maybe one

Re: [FairfieldLife] the monkey story..

2005-10-12 Thread Peter
This 100th monkey story turns out not to be true. It was just sloppy field research and reporters not understanding science. Much like the left brain, right brain stuff of years ago: completely false. Google "100th monkey" to chase it down. --- anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm talk

RE: [FairfieldLife] the monkey story..

2005-10-12 Thread Paula Youmans
I think you might be referring to this   http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Morphogenic_Fields/id/10001   hope so J   I'm talking about the research that found that once you taught 100 monkeys a trick and they learn something then in a different place other monkeys learn

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread Peter
Hi Paula and welcome to our tough neighborhood! Can you talk about your experiences directly? You seem to have experienced a degree of ego loss, one of the points of enlightenment discussed here quite often. Do you have an ego now, or is there only "no thing" when mind tries to reference an "I"? -

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli Mattsson" > People can get enlightened without these inner structures. Then they > tend to think they are fully perfect as they are and also superior > beings. They desperately need their enlightenment to be seen, and > themselves to be seen as super

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-12 Thread Peter
--- Patrick Gillam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ed Goldfinger was felled by heart failure in the > mid-90s or so. He was what, 50? Younger > > Was Ed Tarabilda in his 50s? > > Sandy Kopff was 47 when her car slid into an > oncoming truck between Fairfield and > Ottumwa. I'm told the acciden

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Oct 12, 2005, at 6:22 AM, Irmeli Mattsson wrote: > > > When we discuss enlightenment the concepts we use tend to be quite > > confusing, because different individuals mean different things by > > those concepts. > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paula Youmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello - I am very new on this list, but wanted to respond to this last bit. > I am one of those people who somehow managed to experience things in reverse > order. Strangely, it had the opposite effect on my e

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Part B Swami G answers Rasa

2005-10-12 Thread Peter
--- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > When I read this, I kept hearing it in the voice > of Gangaji, and I > > know nothing of her, so I believe it is genuine. > > > > Thats quite a train of log

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-12 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Someone sent me the following note. Anyone care to expand upon it? > > I was struck a number of years by the legion of meditators, sidhas, > initiators, governors, ministers, Purushas, Mother Divines, rajahs and > oth

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Part B Swami G answers Rasa

2005-10-12 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When I read this, I kept hearing it in the voice of Gangaji, and I > know nothing of her, so I believe it is genuine. The one she is > speaking to, Rasa, is also a woman, with a very unusual website to > say the

[FairfieldLife] Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Vaj wrote: Interesting, no mention of the teacher. Who's David Hawkins BTW? Tom T: Had no teacher. Had near death exp at 7 and another one during WWII. Went on to become MD and shrink after WWII and had further understandings. Eventually ended up in 12 step which became his teacher. Wrote Power vs

Re: [FairfieldLife] Untimely Deaths

2005-10-12 Thread Rick Archer
on 10/12/05 12:39 AM, gullible fool at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> Margaret Cooper MS 60 > > Maybe I'm thinking of a different Margaret Norman, but > the one I know, part of the Cambridge center for a > while and a resident of my town before moving to ff > with husband Norman, was a lo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-12 Thread Rick Archer
Then there was Nona Hamburg, who in the early 1970's went in to the meditation room in the New Haven center and mysteriously died while meditating. She was in her 20's. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make

Re: [FairfieldLife] Untimely Deaths

2005-10-12 Thread Vaj
On Oct 12, 2005, at 12:21 AM, Rick Archer wrote:What if we began our own accounting of such deaths? My start is the attached table. If you think it makes sense you might solicit names on FFL.  I'm part of an international sangha/community of a several thousand hardcore yogis and meditators. Our q

Re: [FairfieldLife] Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread Vaj
On Oct 12, 2005, at 10:22 AM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote:Vaj wrote: Interesting, no mention of the teacher. Who's David Hawkins BTW? Tom T: Had no teacher. Had near death exp at 7 and another one during WWII. Went on to become MD and shrink after WWII and had further understandings.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-12 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Someone sent me the following note. Anyone care to expand upon it? > > > > I was struck a number of years by the legion of m

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Part B Swami G answers Rasa

2005-10-12 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > When I read this, I kept hearing it in the voice > > of Gangaji, and

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread Paula Youmans
Hi Peter and thank you for the welcome! Ha-ha…I hope it is a tough neighborhood! Good for learning J   I can talk about the experience directly, but am never sure “what” to talk about. To tell you the truth, I knew very little when it happened and I know even less now. I’m not sure wha

[FairfieldLife] 1,000 Members

2005-10-12 Thread Rick Archer
Title: 1,000 Members In case you didn’t notice, our membership now stands at 1,000. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "Fai

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread Peter
Seems like you got "slapped" hard when that "I" went. I lost it leaving the dome one afternoon. Consciousness withdrew back into itself and there was no "I" or individuality. The mind freaked-out, but everything kept on working all by itself. Consciousness apperceived itself as a "point". No dimens

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Part B Swami G answers Rasa

2005-10-12 Thread Peter
--- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "jim_flanegin" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment on 10/12/05 8:06 AM, Paula Youmans at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello – I am very new on this list, but wanted to respond to this last bit. I am one of those people who somehow managed to experience things in reverse order. Strangel

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-12 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Oct 12, 2005, at 12:21 AM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > What if we began our own accounting of such deaths? My start is the > > attached table. If you think it makes sense you might solicit names > > on FFL. > > > I'm

[FairfieldLife] Re: 1,000 Members

2005-10-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In case you didn¹t notice, our membership now stands at 1,000. Although a few of us prefer to sit when interfacing with the group. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get f

[FairfieldLife] Bill Maher on Intelligent Design

2005-10-12 Thread markmeredith2002
And finally New Rule: You don't have to teach both sides of a debate, if one side is a load of crap. Now, President Bush recently suggested that public schools should teach intelligent design, alongside the theory of evolution. Because, after all, evolution is quote, "just a theory." Then the Pres

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-12 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- Peter Sutphen wrote: > > --- Patrick Gillam wrote: > > > Sandy Kopff was 47 when her car slid into an > > oncoming truck between Fairfield and > > Ottumwa. I'm told the accident was one she was > > trying to avoid by virtue of having been > > warned by a jyotishi. She had been in a car acci

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-12 Thread Rick Archer
on 10/12/05 10:56 AM, Patrick Gillam at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > That's why Sandy had her friend drive when they ventured > out on highway 34 on a winter day to check her horse, > which she stabled near Ottumwa. Her friend Susan, who was driving, was in an coma for a few days after the accident

[FairfieldLife] For those who are looking for Fall reading material

2005-10-12 Thread TurquoiseB
The winners of the Quill Awards were just announced. I've been following it because the recently-mentioned (by me) author guy Christopher Moore was nominated in the Science Fiction/Fantasy/Horror category for his novel "The Stupidest Angel: A Heartwarming Tale of Christmas Terror." He won, beatin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Part B Swami G answers Rasa

2005-10-12 Thread akasha_108
> > I dreamed that you said that. > > That's funny. I dreamed that you.. Actually, all my "bad" posts are a result of my dreaming that you are telling me to post such. With a gun to my head. But I go "hey you can't pull that tiger dream gun thing on me dude." But I post what you admonish me

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming one's enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread Patrick Gillam
When I read this yesterday I intended to post it as its own thread, but it seems apt here. This is the opening to Chapter Seven of _How Green Was My Valley_, by Richard Llewellyn, first published in 1939. The narrator, Huw, had a terrible mishap the night before. "I woke up in the bed downst

[FairfieldLife] Re: 1,000 Members

2005-10-12 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > In case you didn¹t notice, our membership now stands at 1,000. > > Although a few of us prefer to sit when interfacing > with the gro

[FairfieldLife] Re: 1,000 Members

2005-10-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > In case you didn¹t notice, our membership n

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's designated successor..

2005-10-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 10/6/05 2:37 PM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Any one seen the Oct 5, 2005 press conference? > > > > It's now official: the Prime Minister of the Global Country of World > > P

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's designated successor..

2005-10-12 Thread Rick Archer
on 10/12/05 12:47 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> on 10/6/05 2:37 PM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> Any one seen the Oct 5, 2005 press conference? >>> >>> It's no

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread akasha_108
> Tom T: > He also set up a scale of Enlightment which appears to > be quite useful since on his scale it extends from a nominal value > from 700 to 1200, Pretty broad range and a lot of insight in the third > book about that range and the cast of characters that play in it. Tom A scale seems to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread Vaj
On Oct 12, 2005, at 2:10 PM, akasha_108 wrote: Better yet would be a two dimensional scale, like an xy graph. It helps dispose of the linearity and alleged necessary sequence of "happenings".  For example, various peoples experience could be plotted on two characteristics of the "the experience"

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-12 Thread Peter
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 10/12/05 10:56 AM, Patrick Gillam at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > That's why Sandy had her friend drive when they > ventured > > out on highway 34 on a winter day to check her > horse, > > which she stabled near Ottumwa. > > Her friend Susan,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread Vaj
On Oct 12, 2005, at 2:10 PM, akasha_108 wrote:Enlightenment, connates, to me at least, an endpoint.Hmmm. Never got that., although unimpeded omniscience might seem that way. The proposed model views the mapping of points in the multi-dimensional space as milestones or simple current mappings of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Tom T: > > He also set up a scale of Enlightment which appears to > > be quite useful since on his scale it extends from a nominal value > > from 700 to 1200, Pretty broad range and a lot of insight in the > > third

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-12 Thread Peter
--- Patrick Gillam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Peter Sutphen wrote: > > > > --- Patrick Gillam wrote: > > > > > Sandy Kopff was 47 when her car slid into an > > > oncoming truck between Fairfield and > > > Ottumwa. I'm told the accident was one she was > > > trying to avoid by virtue of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread Peter
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 10/12/05 8:06 AM, Paula Youmans at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hello ­ I am very new on this list, but wanted to > respond to this last bit. I > > am one of those people who somehow managed to > experience things in reverse > > order. Strange

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Tom T: > > > He also set up a scale of Enlightment which appears to > > > be quite useful since on his scale it extends from a nomina

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Your version is more detailed...I'd go with that. Some > time ago when I lived in Fairfield Charlie Heath had > some new jytoish software so he did my chart and saw > that there was a specific period I was entering that I >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-12 Thread andrasayer
Nat is very much alive. Some to add to the untimely list: Denise Robatai Julia Fritz Sharon Welsh Tobi Finebloom Sabine (German lady) all were on Mother Divine. Skip Alexander Debbie Kockel the Purusha guy in the fire --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

Re: [FairfieldLife] Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread Peter
This is one of the clearest responses articulating the condition of "I" after realization. It's brilliant. Wondering what happens to the "I" in enlightenment is like asking what happens to the knot after it's untied; what happens to the darkness when the light is turned on. What happens is that th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-12 Thread Peter
--- andrasayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nat is very much alive. > > Some to add to the untimely list: > Denise Robatai > Julia Fritz > Sharon Welsh > Tobi Finebloom > Sabine (German lady) > all were on Mother Divine. > > Skip Alexander > Debbie Kockel > the Purusha guy in the fire Sten, R

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Better yet would be a two dimensional scale, like an xy graph. > > > It helps dispose of the linearity and alleged necessary sequence > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread Vaj
On Oct 12, 2005, at 2:39 PM, Peter wrote:This is one of the clearest responses articulating the  condition of "I" after realization. It's brilliant. Wondering what happens to the "I" in enlightenment is like asking what happens to the knot after it's untied; what happens to the darkness when the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Orthorexia Nervosa

2005-10-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just came across this. Know anyone or groups of people like this? > > Orthodox Jews? > > * Orthorexia nervosa > > o Not an official eating disorder diagnosis, but the concept > is useful. The

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Better yet would be a two dimensional scale, like an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-12 Thread scienceofabundance
I actually died a few years ago, but I still enjoy checking in with FFL now and again. Being dead is often boring but if you like to surf the Web it can be pretty cool, because the connections are very fast and we have very good anti-virus software. We are told here that unconsciously wanting

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread mrfishey2001
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is one of the clearest responses articulating the > condition of "I" after realization. It's brilliant. > Wondering what happens to the "I" in enlightenment is > like asking what happens to the knot after it's > unt

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread TurquoiseB
> > > > And even better still might be a hearty "Who cares," > > > > followed by an even heartier laugh. :-) > > > > > > Well you are just "sitting" in for the "Real" Unc, so your points > > > don't count -- and are like a candle in a windless place. Dim. > > > > Dim, bright...there you go with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Orthorexia Nervosa

2005-10-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I always thought it was interesting that you always seem to find the > > most unhealthy looking people in health food stores. Of course maybe > > that's why they're th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For the Love of Bush

2005-10-12 Thread Bhairitu
akasha_108 wrote: >>>What is the advantage of a limited corporate life? >>> >>> > > > >>The corporations wield too much power. >> >> > >And thus the solution is too abolish them? > > > No, rein them in. Break them up. They are too large and many corporations are really a bunch

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-12 Thread bmorry2000
Margaret Norman--around 1992? age probably early 40s cause of death anorexia complications Katherin Greco--around 2003? age early 50s; cause of death cancer Janice Langstaff--around 2002? age early 50s; cause of death cancer Carol Dixon--around 1990? age early 40s; cause of death cancer LOTS

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cool, I guess. I just find that I'm less and less > interested in models or in concepts of 'progress' > these days. And thats NOT what the model I suggest is about. Ironically, its a "visualization" tool to get away from all

[FairfieldLife] Re: For the Love of Bush

2005-10-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bhairitu > > Likewise > > that large corporations realize they are bad for society and ask > > Congress to reinstitute the laws that existed up until the Civil War > > when corporations did not have the rights of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Bush Tax Panel Recommendations

2005-10-12 Thread Bhairitu
akasha_108 wrote: >Bush may spearhead major tax reform that provides substantial growth >impetus to the economy. Proposals may include substantially reducing >one of the biggest sinkholes for productive capital, the home mortgage >deduction, and offsetting that with elimination of double taxation

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bush Tax Panel Recommendations

2005-10-12 Thread Bhairitu
anonymousff wrote: >>Tax breaks for homeownership particularly help the wealthy while >>lower-income people don't get enough benefits, said panelists such as >>Liz Ann Sonders, the chief investment officer at San Francisco-based >>Charles Schwab Corp. The current incentives, including the fact tha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 10/12/05 8:06 AM, Paula Youmans at > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The real point I wanted to make about reaching > > those experiences before proper > > > development is tha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Orthorexia Nervosa

2005-10-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > I just came across this. Know anyone or groups of people like > > this? > > Orthodox Jews? Actually no, unless they're recent conve

Re: [FairfieldLife] Untimely Deaths

2005-10-12 Thread gullible fool
> > Also, Goldfaber. > > Nat is still alive, isn't he? I'm thinking of the guy who had the skin condition. Maybe that was Goldfinger, who someone mentioned in an earlier post. --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 10/12/05 12:39 AM, gullible fool at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread akasha_108
Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Oct 12, 2005, at 2:10 PM, akasha_108 wrote: > > > Enlightenment, connates, to me at least, an endpoint. > > Hmmm. Never got that., although unimpeded omniscience might seem that way. Well it you may have a broader view than many. Why label some initial s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-12 Thread gullible fool
> I actually died a few years ago, but I still enjoy > checking in with > FFL now and again. Does that mean we have only 999 members? --- scienceofabundance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I actually died a few years ago, but I still enjoy > checking in with > FFL now and again. Being dead is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths...

2005-10-12 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bmorry2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > LOTS OF Premature deaths by my calculations and of longtime dedicated > TMO participants This notion of premature and untimely death in a group so filled with the "enlightened." When someone's time is up is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: For the Love of Bush

2005-10-12 Thread akasha_108
Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > akasha_108 wrote: B: > No, rein them in. Break them up. They are too large and many > corporations are really a bunch of smaller groups anymore anyway. > ... > I would suspect that many a large corporation CEO would sigh a relief at having an almost

[FairfieldLife] Re: the monkey story..

2005-10-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm talking about the research that found that once you taught 100 > monkeys a trick and they learn something then in a different place > other monkeys learn the same thing much faster. some consciousness > connecti

[FairfieldLife] Re: the monkey story..

2005-10-12 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Turns out, they swim to the next island and teach the monkeys there. > > Not being sarcastic. It's what the followup study found out. Are you sure they aren't the flying monkeys Unc says fly out his ass? (But I b

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread akasha_108
TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > There was an electronics catalog a while back that > used to list bogus items for sale, just to see if > anyone was stupid enough to order them. One of the > items offered for sale was DEDs (Darkness Emitting > Diodes). They also listed WOM (Write Only Memory)

[FairfieldLife] Actions of Enlightened...Speculation at best

2005-10-12 Thread brahmachari108
Actions of enlightened beings, such speculation by the ignorant. fly off the handle at the most (seemingly) minimal transgression and curse others, the greatest rishis of ancient lore would. wailing at his loss of Sita, Rama would be seen He killed. As did Krishna. Actions of an enlightened on

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread Paula Youmans
Thank you for the suggested reading!  I have not read this yet… but I will J   I too was raised Christian (Catholic actually) …. You would not believe how incredibly fast I had to dump out my belief system just to “get by”   I look forward to reading this stuff!   Oh, btw…people me

[FairfieldLife] Re: 1,000 Members

2005-10-12 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ric

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread Paula Youmans
I’ve been slapped silly…a few times lol. The ego loss was just the tip of the iceberg. Getting rather used to it by now…and each journey has gotten easier. I feel like through meditation that I have gained some control, but I have far to go.   I don’t mind one bit…I’d rather be on th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paula Youmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank you for the suggested reading! I have not read this yet… but I will > :-) > > I too was raised Christian (Catholic actually) …. > > You would not believe how incredibly fast I had to dump out my > belie

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Seems like you got "slapped" hard when that "I" went. > I lost it leaving the dome one afternoon. > Consciousness withdrew back into itself and there was > no "I" or individuality. The mind freaked-out, but > everything kep

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For the Love of Bush

2005-10-12 Thread Bhairitu
akasha_108 wrote: >Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>akasha_108 wrote: >> >> > >B: > > > >>No, rein them in. Break them up. They are too large and many >>corporations are really a bunch of smaller groups anymore anyway. >> >> >> > >... > > > >>I would suspect that many a l

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread Vaj
On Oct 12, 2005, at 4:02 PM, akasha_108 wrote: > Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> >> On Oct 12, 2005, at 2:10 PM, akasha_108 wrote: >> >> >>> Enlightenment, connates, to me at least, an endpoint. >>> >> >> Hmmm. Never got that., although unimpeded omniscience might seem >> > that way. > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths...

2005-10-12 Thread peterklutz
It's perceived as untimely because these people cast of their mortal coils way ahead of the statistically established life expectancy for the society they live in This perception is reinforced by the assumption that leading the life of a meditator promotes longevity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogr

[FairfieldLife] Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
> Tom T: > I have two friends who are Enlightened Spare egg writes: And you know this because? Tom T: Takes one to know one. and as Rick insinuated I know a lot more than two. More like 32 or so. I was referring to these specific two who had the same experience independently of each other. Your

[FairfieldLife] Re: 1,000 Members

2005-10-12 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: For the Love of Bush

2005-10-12 Thread akasha_108
> No offense but you sound like an armchair economist because I know > several economists and they don't talk this way. ;-) Ah. you are the expert then. > You sound more like someone who has bought into some kind of libertarian thinking. Nope. Everything I say I have worked through myself.

[FairfieldLife] Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Vaj writes: Can you share anything further about his scale of enlightenment and how it goes? The upper limit scale goes like this. The entire thing is way too long to copy. Tom T Sainthood 575 Very close to Enlightenment Bliss 575+ "Sat chit ananda" Enlightenment 600 Bliss replaced by peace, st

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread akasha_108
Paula: > Ego loss is a tricky subject for me, because when it is gone.there is no "I" to lose it. So in that regard, of course I have an ego lol. When "I" disappeared there was no "me" to experience it.quite literally. So did "I" lose ego? That is a good question. (Rubbing my chin in deep thought

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread Vaj
On Oct 12, 2005, at 8:45 PM, akasha_108 wrote: > Or thinking where does space end? Or what was > there before the universe wa[s] created. Yes. I had the precise same thought processes. Frustrating as a 7 year old with no one who could answer and adults increasingly projecting "weirdness".

[FairfieldLife] Re: 1,000 Members ....999 actually

2005-10-12 Thread off_world_beings
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-12 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- andrasayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Nat is very much alive. > > > > Some to add to the untimely list: > > Denise Robatai > > Julia Fritz > > Sharon Welsh > > Tobi Finebloom > > Sabine (German lady) > > a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread akasha_108
Vaj, (and others) This is an odd question, and perhaps is better dealt with off line. Which I was going to do, but then thought others might have some insights or information. I just has a jusxtapostion of thoughts. In thinking about the japanese boy I used to "switch" "Mynesses" with, per prior

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread akasha_108
Vaj, (and others) This is an odd question, and perhaps is better dealt with off line. Which I was going to do, but then thought others might have some insights or information. I just haD a juxtapostion of thoughts. In thinking about the japanese boy I used to "switch" "Mynesses" with, per prior a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a kid, maybe starting at 8 or 10, I had a repeated "inquiry" -- I > was a curious sort of kid (as in inquisitive and odd). I kept > looking at the sky and visualizing another kid my age -- in Japan > actually -- tho

[FairfieldLife] Any decent books on Vedic knowledge in TMO

2005-10-12 Thread Michael
I was just wondering lately if any decent books have been written and published on Vedic knowledge lately. I've read some online lessons from Das Goravani, and some books by David Frawley. Many aspects of their approach to explaining Vedic concepts is by far better than any i've ever seen in

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