[FairfieldLife] Advisory Warning for Banking on Taiwan

2006-02-16 Thread taiwan teacher
Advisory Warning for Taiwan Non-Republic of China nationals on Taiwan or the occupied islands are strongly advised to avoid opening or using banks on, or associated with Taiwan. The following warning/advisory specifically applies to baking for all non-Republic of China nationals living,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the latter 70s, a prominent Golden Boy SIMS lecturer, Walter Belin (sp) and his wife, Margurite (long time int'l staffer) wrote a letter to MMY about a new guru they had met and were following, a South African

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff no_reply@ wrote: You seem to be beyond MMY's teachings. Do you feel you have transcended his insights and have (re)cognized a newer or higher reality?

[FairfieldLife] Krishna and Brahma[n]

2006-02-16 Thread cardemaister
BG IX 19 (b and c): (amRtaM caiva mRtyush ca) sad asac caaham arjuna (sat; asat; ca; aham; arjuna) I am both sat and not-sat, O Arjuna. XIII 13 (b and c) (anaadimat paraM brahma (or: anaadi matparaM...)) na sat tan naasad ucyate (*na*; sat; tat; *na*; asat; ucyate) (Brahma[n]) is called

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Article- Deepak, G Harrison, MMY

2006-02-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Writer and thinker DEEPAK CHOPRA has exploded the myth that his friend MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI fell out with THE BEATLES over a secret romance by insisting the Indian guru simply grew tired of the Fab Four's drug use.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Article- Deepak, G Harrison, MMY

2006-02-16 Thread TurquoiseB
Far be it from me to be cynical :-), but I suspect a Chopra PR campaign behind all these blast from the past articles. According to Amazon, Chopra has released six books or CDs in the last two months, none of which are selling particularly well com- pared to his former products. He also has

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ANANDAGIRIJI CONFERENCE CALL

2006-02-16 Thread Peter
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/15/06 4:41 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/15/06 1:43 PM, t3rinity at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now you can read the links below, predicting a major tsunami which will wipe

[FairfieldLife] Re: CNN web article about Maharishi

2006-02-16 Thread lurkernomore20002000
FFL Rules! lurk --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The powers that be actually follow what is posted on FFL? What a waste of their time! --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/15/06 10:30 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep. Pretty

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - Sidhis Health

2006-02-16 Thread Peter
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/14/06 5:16 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you look at the long term sidhi-practicing community, do you see a significantly above avg healthy group, physically and mentally??? Well, yeah, actually, you do. You

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 15, 2006, at 9:07 AM, authfriend wrote: The TMO may well have tasked Chopra with putting out misinformation when Chopra was still with the TMO; as Bob suggested, the quotes in this article may have been taken

[FairfieldLife] Nostrdamus predicts Bush's assassination.

2006-02-16 Thread uns_tressor
According to a book released today on a new translation of Nostradamus, Bush will be assassinated in a year to eighteen months and will be succeeded by his brother Jeb. The retailiation will be massive and cause untold knock-on effects. Author: Mario Reading. Batton down the hatches, lads. It

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 15, 2006, at 1:00 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: That every well may be the case, Vaj, but this article is NOT an example of that... I was referring to the CNN article. Funny that, given that the post you were

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
TorquoiseB writes; snipped I wouldn't say that AnonAkaskaMoose was *really* comparing you to the TM holy tradition, Jim. What he was doing was using tradition the way it's *always* been used through- out history. Tradition is that thing that people who have been practicing a set of spiritual

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread Peter
--- tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TorquoiseB writes; snipped I wouldn't say that AnonAkaskaMoose was *really* comparing you to the TM holy tradition, Jim. What he was doing was using tradition the way it's *always* been used through- out history. Tradition

Re: [FairfieldLife] Nostrdamus predicts Bush's assassination.

2006-02-16 Thread Peter
Nostradamus predicted that I'd be writing this right now! How, pray tell, is Jeb going to succeed his brother? --- uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to a book released today on a new translation of Nostradamus, Bush will be assassinated in a year to eighteen months and will be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's meeting with George Harrison - as told by Chopra in interview

2006-02-16 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The things people make up... Thats the greatest self-reflective autobiographical insight you have uttered yet. Pierce-on! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread Vaj
On Feb 16, 2006, at 10:23 AM, Peter wrote: --- tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TorquoiseB writes; snipped I wouldn't say that AnonAkaskaMoose was *really* comparing you to the TM "holy tradition," Jim. What he was doing was using "tradition" the way it's *always* been

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 16, 2006, at 10:23 AM, Peter wrote: --- tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TorquoiseB writes; snipped I wouldn't say that AnonAkaskaMoose was *really* comparing you to the TM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - Sidhis Health

2006-02-16 Thread Rick Archer
on 2/16/06 8:21 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/14/06 5:16 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you look at the long term sidhi-practicing community, do you see a significantly above avg healthy group, physically and

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff no_reply@ wrote: You seem to be beyond MMY's teachings. Do you feel you have

[FairfieldLife] True Children Of the TMO

2006-02-16 Thread doctor_gabby_savy
Its occurred to me that Barry, Jim and others are true children of the TMO, per their style of response. When someone brings up points about the TMO regarding oddness, mundane contradictions, distortion of facts, distortion or confused logic, a classic TMO response is to divert the focus off the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nostrdamus predicts Bush's assassination.

2006-02-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to a book released today on a new translation of Nostradamus, Bush will be assassinated in a year to eighteen months and will be succeeded by his brother Jeb. The retailiation will be massive and cause

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual practice after awakening: why?

2006-02-16 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jim_flanegin wrote: Still do TM... How come, Jim? What's in it for you? Not long ago someone -- I think Alex Stanley -- pointed out how great meditation must be in enlightenment. What I wrote about

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Article- Deepak, G Harrison, MMY

2006-02-16 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
Deepak Chopra is not the only medical man to challenge popular opinion about The Beatles history. I know of a doctor, who runs a hospital in Rishikesh, who is adamant that Yoko Ono stayed with him in 1968 whilst John Lennon stayed at the Maharishi Ashram. Was Bevan the eggman, Clements the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff no_reply@

[FairfieldLife] Elements of a Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was that shift enlightenment? I don't know, as the dogmas of enlightenment have never been of any interest to me. It's definitely Waking Down's second birth awakening, but that is a beginning, not a final goal.

[FairfieldLife] Re: ANANDAGIRIJI CONFERENCE CALL

2006-02-16 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.geocities.com/rahul_kumar/kalki/tsunami.html Anyone who thinks the Himalayas could be wiped out by a tsunami is living in la la land. Perhaps a really big tsunami?? Yeah, like the moon

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual practice after awakening: why?

2006-02-16 Thread Patrick Gillam
Alex wrote in post 85038: You don't meditate to awaken! You awaken so you can meditate! This was the phrase that stuck with me, if not verbatim, then in its general meaning. Thanks for the reference number needed to revisit it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff no_reply@ wrote: Jim asked a legitimate question. I gave a thoughtful response. The responses have ignored the primary points in the post and focused on the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sulemain (was Charlie Lutes)

2006-02-16 Thread Jamshad Ghanbar
Solaiman had the ability to fly - Speak the language of birds and animals - and many otherabilitiesmentionedin old eastern and vedic litratures.In Sanskrit is called"Vibhuti" or "Kramat" or sometimes termed "Siddhis" His techniques work perfectly yet needs interpretation.Patrick Gillam [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff no_reply@ wrote: In the latter 70s, a prominent Golden Boy SIMS lecturer, Walter Belin (sp) and his wife, Margurite (long time int'l staffer) wrote a letter

Re: [FairfieldLife] was[Re: Charlie Lutes in print audios clips]- sidhis practice

2006-02-16 Thread Jamshad Ghanbar
The techniques are universal and does not belong to an special religion. You see its very interesting and amazing, yet need a pure heart to be able to follow the path. A pure heartis a heart that does not hurt othersthrough writing , speaking , acting , and etc. And the heart attains

[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - Sidhis Health

2006-02-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/16/06 8:21 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/14/06 5:16 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you look at the long term sidhi-practicing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nostrdamus predicts Bush's assassination.

2006-02-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nostradamus predicted that I'd be writing this right now! How, pray tell, is Jeb going to succeed his brother? Cheney's going to resign because of his mishandling of the hunting accident, and Bush will appoint Jeb to

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: This common usage of the term tradition has the added side benefit of enabling the TB who wields it of putting down those who *have* had

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: This common usage of the term tradition has the added side benefit of enabling the TB who wields it of putting down those who *have* had

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nostrdamus predicts Bush's assassination.

2006-02-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Nostradamus predicted that I'd be writing this right now! How, pray tell, is Jeb going to succeed his brother? Cheney's going to resign

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, MMY's lineage is Swami Brahmananda Saraswati who personally chose MMY to become the next Shankaracharya, and then found out it couldn't be done, but you can believe what you want. As -- rather obviously -- can

[FairfieldLife] Greetings from the disillusioned of the UK

2006-02-16 Thread hugheshugo
Hello everyone Just wanted to say thanks for setting up this site. I have found so many interesting things to read here I've missed my evening programme! And I live in a TM centre (tut tut) I have lived and worked for the upper echelons of the UK TMO for years and have been getting fed up

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: This common usage of the term tradition has the added side benefit of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sulemain (was Charlie Lutes)

2006-02-16 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jamshad Ghanbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Solaiman had the ability to fly - Speak the language of birds and animals - and many other abilities mentioned in old eastern and vedic litratures. In Sanskrit is called Vibhuti or Kramat Really? I believe the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Second was that however hard I tried to feel bad about the 24/7 realization not being as present as it had been before, after a while I figured out that it really was me *trying to feel bad* about it not being

[FairfieldLife] Re: Greetings from the disillusioned of the UK

2006-02-16 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone Just wanted to say thanks for setting up this site. I have found so many interesting things to read here I've missed my evening programme! And I live in a TM centre (tut tut) I have lived and

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim asked a legitimate question. I gave a thoughtful response. The responses have ignored the primary points in the post and focused on the percieved shortcomings of the poster -- not the post itself. Makes

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread Vaj
On Feb 16, 2006, at 1:04 PM, authfriend wrote:It occurs to me that, as far as I'm aware, there isn't a term like "witnessing" associated with the other "higher states" in MMY's teaching, such that when the experience it refers to became permanent, that's God consciousness or Unity consciousness

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
In this post there are some important observations of the value of tradition. My comments in between. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Second was that however hard I tried to feel bad about the 24/7 realization not being as present as it had been before, after a while I figured

Re: [FairfieldLife] Greetings from the disillusioned of the UK

2006-02-16 Thread Sal Sunshine
You...missed...program? (or programme, as you would say) Twenty more lifetimes for that little transgression! Sal On Feb 16, 2006, at 11:41 AM, hugheshugo wrote: Just wanted to say thanks for setting up this site. I have found so many interesting things to read here I've missed my evening

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: This common usage of the term tradition has the added side benefit of enabling the TB who wields it of putting down those who *have* had

Re: [FairfieldLife] Greetings from the disillusioned of the UK

2006-02-16 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 16, 2006, at 11:41 AM, hugheshugo wrote: I have lived and worked for the upper echelons of the UK TMO for years and have been getting fed up with all the crap for ages, the end of the TMO in England and the growing obsession with money and the obvious non-existence (or

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In this post there are some important observations of the value of tradition. My comments in between. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff no_reply@ wrote: Irmeli: MMY represents his

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nostrdamus predicts Bush's assassination.

2006-02-16 Thread Bhairitu
sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Nostradamus predicted that I'd be writing this right now! How, pray tell, is Jeb going to succeed his brother? Cheney's

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: This common usage of the term tradition has the added side benefit of enabling the TB who wields it of putting down those who *have* had

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Of course, MMY's lineage is Swami Brahmananda Saraswati who personally chose MMY to become the next Shankaracharya, and then found out it couldn't be

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep. Have you ever looked at the convoluted legal status of the scribe's caste in India? Depends on where you are born and what your family name is as to which higher-order caste you legally belong to. It will all be

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote: In this post there are some important observations of the value of tradition. My comments in between. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CC in the TM context is by definition permanent, 24/7 witnessing, as I understand it, so it wouldn't make sense to say CC is permanent once experienced, nor have I ever heard that said. Nor, however, have I ever

[FairfieldLife] Re: Greetings from the disillusioned of the UK

2006-02-16 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to scopionland. Very difficult to track the $$, most of which seems to be going into offshore or Indian accts. In the US non-profits must file public financial statements. In the late 1990s the tmo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-16 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Feb 15, 2006, at 9:07 AM, authfriend wrote: The TMO may well have tasked Chopra with putting out misinformation when Chopra was still with

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Second was that however hard I tried to feel bad about the 24/7

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nostrdamus predicts Bush's assassination.

2006-02-16 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nostradamus predicted that I'd be writing this right now! How, pray tell, is Jeb going to succeed his brother? I will tell you. He will stand for presidential election as a republican candidate. He might well romp home on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nostrdamus predicts Bush's assassination.

2006-02-16 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nostradmus, although he definitely had some stuff going for him in the seeing department, was as paranoid as a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs. He believed (accurately, as it turns out) that the world

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, I learned in 1975, apparently after it had begun to happen. You started TM when? Not that it matters very much, but 1967. TTC was '72. I've always understood CC experiences to mean witnessing

[FairfieldLife] Papji Quote

2006-02-16 Thread Peter
God is subject. When we make honest mistake, when we love God we think he is an object. He is the subject, you know? So you have to surrender to the subject. You are the object. Nobody can understand what I am speaking to you now. So you merge into the subject so that no object is left behind.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nostrdamus predicts Bush's assassination.

2006-02-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Nostradmus, although he definitely had some stuff going for him in the seeing department, was as paranoid as a long-tailed cat in a room full of

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- TurquoiseB wrote: Isn't that, after all, AnonAkashaGabbyMoose's issue? He wants the experiences of enlighten- ment that people have had to fit into the descriptions of them he has heard over the years. That's not what I picked up from those posts. I thought he was pointing out that

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- TurquoiseB wrote: Isn't that, after all, AnonAkashaGabbyMoose's issue? He wants the experiences of enlighten- ment that people have had to fit into the descriptions of them he has heard over the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't that, after all, AnonAkashaGabbyMoose's issue? He wants the experiences of enlighten- ment that people have had to fit into the descriptions of them he has heard over the years. He's so used to the map that he

[FairfieldLife] Fuller transcript of the March 12, 1974 Hundreds of meditations quote

2006-02-16 Thread shempmcgurk
From March 12, 1974, Belgium. Questioner: What do you think of other meditation techniques and is it possible to practice another meditation technique at the same time as transcendental meditation `specially if the other meditation technique is in connection with a religion? Maharishi: What

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- TurquoiseB wrote: Isn't that, after all, AnonAkashaGabbyMoose's issue? He wants the experiences of enlighten- ment that people have

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Anyway, I learned in 1975, apparently after it had begun to happen. You started TM when? Not that it matters very much, but 1967. TTC was '72.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Isn't that, after all, AnonAkashaGabbyMoose's issue? He wants the experiences of enlighten- ment that people have had to fit into the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-16 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, actually no TM TB, official or not, would use Chopra as a vehicle for their message, as I said. The TB line considers Chopra an apostate and a betrayer of Maharishi. * In trying to think about why

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Second was that however hard I tried to feel bad about the 24/7 realization not being as present as it had been before, after a while I figured out

[FairfieldLife] Re: Papji Quote

2006-02-16 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: God is subject. When we make honest mistake, when we love God we think he is an object. He is the subject, you know? So you have to surrender to the subject. You are the object. Nobody can understand what I am speaking to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Papji Quote

2006-02-16 Thread Vaj
On Feb 16, 2006, at 7:53 PM, wayback71 wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "God is subject. When we make honest mistake, when we love God we think he is an object. He is the subject, you know? So you have to surrender to the subject. You are the object.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Papji Quote

2006-02-16 Thread Peter
--- wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: God is subject. When we make honest mistake, when we love God we think he is an object. He is the subject, you know? So you have to surrender to the subject. You are the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Papji Quote

2006-02-16 Thread Peter
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 16, 2006, at 7:53 PM, wayback71 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: God is subject. When we make honest mistake, when we love God we think he is an object. He is the subject, you know? So you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: No, actually no TM TB, official or not, would use Chopra as a vehicle for their message, as I said. The TB line considers Chopra an apostate and a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Papaji Quote

2006-02-16 Thread Rick Archer
on 2/16/06 6:53 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: God is subject. When we make honest mistake, when we love God we think he is an object. He is the subject, you know? So you have to surrender to the subject. You

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nostrdamus predicts Bush's assassination.

2006-02-16 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 2/16/06 11:24:47 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nostradamus predicted that I'd be writing this right now! How, pray tell, is Jeb going to succeed his brother?Cheney's going to resign because of his mishandlingof the hunting accident, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's meeting with George Harrison - as told by...

2006-02-16 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/16/06 3:27:18 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The US spans six different time zones, so the Ed Sullivan show was on at different times that Sunday. The entire country did not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-16 Thread Rick Archer
on 2/16/06 8:45 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Possible, but I think even somebody as cynical and stupid as Chopra must have some pangs of conscience, although he cannot find any real reconciliation through that cloud of arrogance he lives in. If Deepak were

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-16 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/16/06 8:45 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Possible, but I think even somebody as cynical and stupid as Chopra must have some pangs of conscience, although he cannot find any

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-16 Thread Rick Archer
on 2/16/06 9:59 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Deepak were still in the Movement you would probably be singing his praises. You've just got sour grapes 'cause he left. OTOH, I haven't heard you praise anyone in the TMO. They're all lunkheads in your view. So probably I'm

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think from that perspective, you would feel that everything that happened could not have happened otherwise, that all your 'mistakes' in thinking and feeling were no mistakes at all, but were just all part of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: If Deepak were still in the Movement you would probably be singing his praises. You've just got sour grapes 'cause he left. OTOH, I haven't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Papji Quote

2006-02-16 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: God is subject. When we make honest mistake, when we love God we think he is an object. He is the subject, you know? So you have to surrender to

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think from that perspective, you would feel that everything that happened could not have happened otherwise, that all your 'mistakes' in thinking and feeling were no mistakes at all, but were just all part of the path

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nostrdamus predicts Bush's assassination.

2006-02-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Nostradmus, although he definitely had some stuff going for him in the seeing department, was as paranoid as a long-tailed cat in a room full of