[FairfieldLife] Re: Farm milk and asthma?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unpasterized? Obviously, and unhomogenized. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: http://preview.tinyurl.com/28t795 Inverse association of farm milk consumption with asthma and allergy in rural and suburban populations across Europe.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Visualizing the E8 root system
The E(8) Lie group is an essential component of the E(8)xE(8) heterotic superstring that Hagelin was involved with at CERN. This shameless TM tie-in is a sort of Eight Degrees of Hagelin theory, if you will. TM is only eight scalar degrees of separation, or vibrational modes of the superstring, from anything, or something like that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mathatbrahman mathatbrahman@ wrote: New mathematical discovery, the E8 Lie group. Has more data than the human genome. Here's an image of it.: (makes a great mathematical mandala). http://aimath.org/E8/mcmullen.html Oooo. Dizzifying.
[FairfieldLife] Miracles in India
Miracles in India Two portraits of Jesus on a remote Indian island began bleeding in March 2007. Eric Nathaniel, a police radio operator in Port Blair on the Andaman Islands noticed blood trickling down a portrait of Jesus in his house on 8 March 2007. We lit candles and prayed all night and a little later the blood dried but it soon started trickling down from the hands and heart of another portrait in the house, Nathaniel said. Thousands of people have since visited Nathaniel's house to see the portraits. In another report from India, blood oozed from the eyes of a statue of Jesus in the yard of a Catholic church on 12 February 2007. The statue at St Joseph the Worker Church in Ghoreghat, Madhya Pradesh, was first seen weeping by Chandrawati Armo, who, after cleaning the statue, noticed it shedding blood from both eyes. Armo told the church's assistant priest, Father Pappachan. I raced to the statue and found blood oozing out of its eyes, he said. Pappachan smelled and tasted the red substance and was convinced it is a miracle. The bleeding statue was also witnessed by nuns and a villager. The flow of blood stopped, and the blood on the statue clotted. Clots are also visible on the statue's hands, according to Father Florentius Kujur, the parish priest. Many people have visited the church to view the statue. (Source: Union of Catholic Asian News; Reuters) (Benjamin Creme's Master confirms that these were miracles manifested by the Master Jesus.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dissecting brahma-suutras: I.1.12 (part 4/4)
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BS I.1.12:
aanandamayo 'bhyaasaat
aanandamayaH aananda + mayaH
aananda aa + nanda
nanda m. joy, happiness, a son (as the chief object of joy);
aananda m. happiness , joy , enjoyment , sensual pleasure RV.
AV.
VS. R. Ragh. c. ; m. and (%{am}) n. ` pure happiness ' , one
of
the three attributes of A1tman or Brahman in the Veda1nta
philosophy
Veda1ntas. c. ; m. (in dram.) the thing wished for , the end of
the
drama [e.g. the VIth Act in the Ven2is.] Sa1h. 399 ; a kind of
flute ; the sixteenth Muhu1rta ; N. of S3iva ; of a Lokes3vara
(Buddh.) ; of a Bala (Jain.) L. ; of several men ; of a
country ;
m.
and (%{am}) n. N. of the forty-eighth year of the cycle of
Jupiter ;
aanandamaya mf(%{I})n. blissful , made up or consisting of
happiness
TUp. Ma1n2d2Up. Veda1ntas. Katha1s. ; (%{am}) n. (scil. %
{brahman})
the supreme spirit (as consisting of pure happiness cf. %
{Ananda}
above)
abhyaasaat: ablative singular of the word whose stem is
abhyaasa; in this category of nouns ablative (from-case)
singular is formed by lengthening the final vowel and
attaching 't' to it.
'abhyaasa' seems to be sandhi for prefix 'abhi' + noun 'aasa'.
abhi ind. (a prefix to verbs and nouns , expressing) to ,
towards ,
into , over , upon. (As a prefix to verbs of motion) it expresses
the notion or going towards , approaching , c. (As a prefix to
nouns not derived from verbs) it expresses superiority ,
intensity ,
c. ; e.g. %{abhi-tAmra} , %{abhi-nava} q.v. (As a separate adverb
or preposition) it expresses (with acc.) to , towards , in the
direction of , against ; into S3Br. and Ka1tyS3r. ; for , for the
sake of ; on account of ; on , upon , with regard to , by ,
before ,
in front of ; over. It may even express one after the other ,
severally Pa1n2. 1-4 , 91 e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]@abhi} , tree after
tree
abhyAsa 2 m. the act of adding anything , S3ulb. ; (in Gr.) `
what
is prefixed ' , the first syllable of a reduplicated radical
Pa1n2. ; reduplication Nir. ; repetition Mn. xii , 74 , c. ; (in
poetry) repetition of the last verse of a stanza [Nir.] or of the
last word of a chapter [Comm. on AitBr.] ; (in arithm.)
multiplication ; repeated or permanent exercise , discipline ,
use ,
habit , custom [77,1] ; repeated reading , study ; military
practice
L. ; ***(in later Veda1nta phil.) inculcation of a truth
conveyed in sacred writings by means of repeating the same word or
the same passage*** ; (in Yoga phil.) the effort of the mind
to
remain in its unmodified condition of purity (sattva).
An attempt at translation:
[brahma(n) is] bliss-consisting (aananda-mayaH)
repetition-from (abhyaasaa-t): The fact that the word aananda-maya
appears so often in Vedic literature in connection with
Brahma(n), proves that Brahma(n) is aananda-maya (or the
other way round...)???
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool doo dee doo doo story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: That occured to me when writing it up. The exact *same* story can be pointed to by God freaks Where did that term come from? Is that the opposite of atheist freaks? Yes, and it's totally innocuous. It's a lingering Sixties-ism in my speech. So far on FFL I have used the term dozens of times, in contexts such as enlightenment freak and Bruce Cockburn freak or music freak (both referring to myself), or neat freak, or Mongo freak (referring to fans of a certain short fictional detective). It's a slang way of referring to the odd things that some people get off on. It has no negative connotations, except, seemingly, in your mind. And what's a God freak anyway? I think the term freak is possibly reserved for those pushing an agenda, as it appears you are doing now, my dear Buddhist atheist. Jim, since you stopped actively slamming me, I've taken a chance and replied to a few of your posts as if you were an adult, and as if you were actually a rational human being. My mistake. Back in the trashbin you go. Someday (in my opinion) you should try a little introspection and try to view yourself as others see you, not as you like to see yourself. First you react to me suggesting that Guru Dev would be shocked to hear himself referred to as His Divinity by his followers as if what I said was some kind of an insult. It was intended to be a *compliment*, dude. The term used to honor him by some...uh...Guru Dev freaks IMO *belittles* him, *belittles* a teacher of enlightenment, and *belittles* the whole process of enlightenment in my opinion, and that was what I intended to convey. But you perceived it as some kind of insult, and reacted as if you *personally* had been insulted. That's YOUR problem, dude, not mine. And now you take offense at a simple Sixties-ism, get all huffy and offended, and start hurling terms like atheist and Buddhist as if *they* were insults. Can't you *feel* the emotional loading that *you* place on such terms? I sure can, and I'd be willing to bet a few others on this forum have developed their intuition to the point that they can feel it, too. So back in the trashbin with you, dude. It's not worth trying to communicate with you if you're going to be so cluelessly reactive here. For the record, I don't care what other people believe, about God or about Guru Dev. I'm just trippin' on language, and occasionally pointing out when people make statements or ask questions based on *assumptions*. Their entire followup statement or question is based on *accepting* the assumption as true; otherwise the followup statement or question has no meaning. To react to the statement or to answer the question, one has to *accept* the assumption as true. Some of us don't accept those assumptions, is all. My agenda is merely to point out these assumptions when they occur, which is clearly in the spirit defined for this group on its main page. The vast majority of people on this planet believe in God, so much so that it has become a never-challenged assumption on their part. Some of *them* react strongly when someone points out the fact that it *is* an assumption, and a completely unproven assumption at that. It seems to me that this is what's going on here with your response. Despite your claim, you *are* trying to start something. Instead, by acting like a petulant child, you have ended something instead, my experiment in seeing if you could have a rational conver- sation without...uh...freaking out when you encounter ideas that differ from yours. I wish you the best of luck with your life and your beliefs. May they both make you very happy. But dude...I'm just TIRED of all the prepubes- cent arguing here, and want to spend what little time I spend here talking with adults who can treat ideas that differ from their own ideas as Just Ideas, not some kind of attack. You don't seem to be one of those people.
[FairfieldLife] US health system ranks last compared to other countries
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/afp/20070515/tpl-us-health-government-politics- 10170b4.html More surprising UK ranking good, yet here we think we're in crisis. We think France, for instance, is better looked after..
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visualizing the E8 root system
All this theoretical physics stuff from Hagelin is a metaphor, and a poor metaphor at that. It is essentially incomprehensible and contributes absolutely nothing to the understanding of Realization. --- at_man_and_brahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The E(8) Lie group is an essential component of the E(8)xE(8) heterotic superstring that Hagelin was involved with at CERN. This shameless TM tie-in is a sort of Eight Degrees of Hagelin theory, if you will. TM is only eight scalar degrees of separation, or vibrational modes of the superstring, from anything, or something like that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mathatbrahman mathatbrahman@ wrote: New mathematical discovery, the E8 Lie group. Has more data than the human genome. Here's an image of it.: (makes a great mathematical mandala). http://aimath.org/E8/mcmullen.html Oooo. Dizzifying. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visualizing the E8 root system
On May 15, 2007, at 7:45 AM, Peter wrote: All this theoretical physics stuff from Hagelin is a metaphor, and a poor metaphor at that. It is essentially incomprehensible and contributes absolutely nothing to the understanding of Realization. It's interesting, MIU physics texts (privately published) did emphasize a relationship and an analogy between physics and consciousness BUT they also included a chapter on such analogies and mentioned the fact that such analogies could only be taken so far. At some point, probably around the time Hagelin was urged (forced?) to write the hilarious Is Consciousness the Unified Field?, a major leap of faith was made and analogy became taken as science or fact. The TMO and Mahesh Varma: putting the Con back in Consciousness and selling it to you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: US health system ranks last compared to other countries
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/afp/20070515/tpl-us-health-government-politics-10170b4.html More surprising UK ranking good, yet here we think we're in crisis. We think France, for instance, is better looked after.. In an interesting juxtaposition, Michael Moore's new film Sicko is set to premiere at Cannes soon, and since in it he takes on the damn-the- patient-profit-at-any-cost policies of the US health care industry and pharmaceutical industries, he's come under fire from the Bush administration, which is...uh...somewhat in these industries' pocket. They're claiming he violated a trade embargo with Cuba by going there during the filming. Guess they're still pissed off about Fahrenheit 9/11, eh? http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/entertainment/view/276253/1/.html Moore describes the new film as a comedy about 45 million people with no health care in the richest country on Earth. While many may bristle at his tendency to mix comedy and scathing satire with serious issues, I applaud it. The thing that the robber barons of the world hate most is to be laughed at, and Moore helps people to laugh at them. May he continue to make his films, and may the people continue to laugh at those who make a profit from either killing their fellow man (Bowling for Columbine and F 9/11) or just allowing them to die because they don't care whether they live or die, only about profit (Sicko), because when the laughter dies, what remains might be a sense of outrage, and a desire to stop these travesties. As for Michael himself, this article implies that he's well aware of the shoot the messenger tactics that will be used against him, and has hired one of the best PR firms in the business to counter their attacks. I don't care whether one likes Michael Moore and his sensibilities or not; I still believe that the world desper- ately needs more people like him.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool doo dee doo doo story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: That occured to me when writing it up. The exact *same* story can be pointed to by God freaks Where did that term come from? Is that the opposite of atheist freaks? Yes, and it's totally innocuous. It's a lingering Sixties-ism in my speech. So far on FFL I have used the term dozens of times, in contexts such as enlightenment freak and Bruce Cockburn freak or music freak (both referring to myself), or neat freak, or Mongo freak (referring to fans of a certain short fictional detective). It's a slang way of referring to the odd things that some people get off on. It has no negative connotations, except, seemingly, in your mind. And what's a God freak anyway? I think the term freak is possibly reserved for those pushing an agenda, as it appears you are doing now, my dear Buddhist atheist. Jim, since you stopped actively slamming me, I've taken a chance and replied to a few of your posts as if you were an adult, and as if you were actually a rational human being. My mistake. Back in the trashbin you go. I meant no disrespect to you when I used the terms Buddhist and atheist. Isn't a person who doesn't beileve in God an atheist and aren't you a Buddhist? What you perceived as my anger or rigidity was merely intensity. I read back what I had written and I *got* the intensity, but no anger. And the intensity was merely a reflection of my daily circumstance, not directed at you or FFL. On the other hand, I am trying to be more careful with my writing. Sometimes when I am writing, I will look back at what I have written and realize it didn't convey what I had intended. Case in point was my response to Rory's comment about our taking our subtitles of the life movie as gospel. As many things he writes do, it tickled me and I responded that it was a great joke. Later I realized that could've been miscontrued as me not taking what he said seriously. Writing is a skill that is a challenge for me because it must be self- contained and linear. Give me a good canvas any day, literally. Now, as to your response that 'freak' is reserved for the odd things that people get off on, would you or have you referred to yourself as a 'Tantric freak' or an 'atheist freak' or a 'Buddhism freak'? The reason I ask is that perhaps the term is not as innocuous as you think it is. Maybe, and maybe not. I personally don't know, and that is why I am asking you. And I am also curious why you see atheist as a negative term? I consider those who choose to not recognize God as atheists. What is the issue there?
[FairfieldLife] Dissecting brahma-suutras: I 1.4. (part 1/?)
(This is a rather easy one...)
BS I 1.4
tattu samanvayaat
(tat tu samanvayaat: no sandhi, no nuttin!)
tat that
tu 2 (never found at the beginning of a sentence or verse ;
metrically also %{tU4} RV. ; cf. Pa1n2. 6-3 , 133) pray! I beg ,
do , now , then , Lat. {dum} used (esp. with the Imper.) RV. ; but
(also with %{eva4} or %{vai4} following) AV. iv , 18 , 6 TS. S3Br.
c. ; and Mn. ii , 22 ; or , i , 68 ; xi , 202 ; often incorrectly
written for %{nu} MBh. (i , 6151 B and C) ; sometimes used as a mere
expletive
samanvaya sam + anu + aya
sam adv. along with, together (mostly ---).
anu 3 ind. (***as a prefix to verbs and nouns*** , expresses)
after , along , alongside , lengthwise , near to , under ,
subordinate to , with. (When prefixed to nouns , especially in
adverbial compounds) , according to , severally , each by each ,
orderly , methodically , one after another , repeatedly. (As a
separable preposition , with accusative) after , along , over , near
to , through , to , towards , at , according to , in order ,
agreeably to , in regard to , inferior to Pa1n2. 1-4 , 86. As a
separable adverb) after , afterwards , thereupon , again , further ,
then , next.
aya m. ***going*** (only ifc. cf. [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ; (with %
{gavAm}) ` the going or the turn of the cowsN. of a periodical
sacrifice MBh. ; a move towards the right at chess Pat. (cf. %
{anA7naya}) ; Ved. a die Rv. x 166 , 9 AV. c. ; the number `
four ; good luck , favourable fortune Nalo7d.
anvaya [anu + aya - C.] m. ( %{i} see %{anv-i}) , following ,
succession [46,2] ; connection , association , being linked to or
concerned with ; the natural order or connection of words in a
sentence , syntax , construing ; logical connection of words ;
logical connection of cause and effect , or proposition and
conclusion ; drift , tenor , purport ; descendants , race ,
lineage , family.
samanvaya m. regular succession or order , connected sequence or
consequence , conjunction , mutual or immediate connection (%
{At} ind. , in consequence of ') Kap. Baadar. MBh. c. ; %{-
pradIpa} m. %{-pradipa-saMketa} m. %{sUtra-vivRti} f. N. of wks.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Visualizing the E8 root system
Is Consciousness the Unified Field? - if consciousness is truly most fundamental, there IS a need to relate it to the most fundamental laws of physics, because presently it is being ignored altogether. As for the limits and incomprehensibility of Hagelin's metaphors or equivalences, surely the same could be said of the Vedas - in spite of countless commentaries it remains a rather obscure philosophy/manual of consciousness. In the end nothing but realization itself will do.. But I think you are both being too harsh on Hagelin.. He is making valiant efforts to interpret those equations in novel ways, as windows to the properties of the unified field. Like us looking at the behaviour of someone and figuring out underlying propensities? The discussion on the equations reflecting the non-duality of unity I thought ADDED to my understanding of nonduality I had come across previously from similar statements made by individuals or in scriptures. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 15, 2007, at 7:45 AM, Peter wrote: All this theoretical physics stuff from Hagelin is a metaphor, and a poor metaphor at that. It is essentially incomprehensible and contributes absolutely nothing to the understanding of Realization. It's interesting, MIU physics texts (privately published) did emphasize a relationship and an analogy between physics and consciousness BUT they also included a chapter on such analogies and mentioned the fact that such analogies could only be taken so far. At some point, probably around the time Hagelin was urged (forced?) to write the hilarious Is Consciousness the Unified Field?, a major leap of faith was made and analogy became taken as science or fact. The TMO and Mahesh Varma: putting the Con back in Consciousness and selling it to you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: US health system ranks last compared to other countries
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/afp/20070515/tpl-us-health-government- politics- 10170b4.html More surprising UK ranking good, yet here we think we're in crisis. We think France, for instance, is better looked after.. I don't believe this report. In the States you pay a little bit of money each week and you get a much faster, and better service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: US health system ranks last compared to other countries
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/afp/20070515/tpl-us-health-government- politics- 10170b4.html More surprising UK ranking good, yet here we think we're in crisis. We think France, for instance, is better looked after.. I don't believe this report. In the States you pay a little bit of money each week and you get a much faster, and better service. If you can get health insurance at all, that is. And the service isn't necessarily either faster or better. What specifically do you not believe about the report? Just FYI, right before I went on Medicare in February of this year, my group health insurance premiums--single, no dependents-- had been raised to $14,612 a year. That's $281 a week, hardly a little bit of money. Of course, since I work freelance, I had to pay for all of it, no employer contribution, so it was higher than for most employees. But most freelancers have a terrible time getting *any* health insurance, and those who do pay a very substantial percentage of their income for it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Visualizing the E8 root system
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 15, 2007, at 7:45 AM, Peter wrote: All this theoretical physics stuff from Hagelin is a metaphor, and a poor metaphor at that. It is essentially incomprehensible and contributes absolutely nothing to the understanding of Realization. It's interesting, MIU physics texts (privately published) did emphasize a relationship and an analogy between physics and consciousness BUT they also included a chapter on such analogies and mentioned the fact that such analogies could only be taken so far. At some point, probably around the time Hagelin was urged (forced?) to write the hilarious Is Consciousness the Unified Field?, a major leap of faith was made and analogy became taken as science or fact. Actually, as the question mark in the title of the paper indicates, Hagelin is quite clear that he is *speculating*. And, of course, there are plenty of highly credentialed non-TM physicists and mathematicians who are also working on integrating consciousness and physics (e.g., Penrose). I don't suppose you'd care to be specific as to why Hagelin's paper is hilarious, would you? I won't hold my breath. The TMO and Mahesh Varma: putting the Con back in Consciousness and selling it to you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Visualizing the E8 root system
Peter, I didn't say that the E(8)xE(8) heterotic superstring theory had anything to do with TM, nor did Hagelin at the time he was at CERN. That came later. He was still about two years from writing his first TM/physics monograph. My point was that *I* had made a connection between the E(8) Lie group and TM by explaining that it had a relationship to Hagelin himself, and by extension to the TM universe. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All this theoretical physics stuff from Hagelin is a metaphor, and a poor metaphor at that. It is essentially incomprehensible and contributes absolutely nothing to the understanding of Realization. --- at_man_and_brahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The E(8) Lie group is an essential component of the E(8)xE(8) heterotic superstring that Hagelin was involved with at CERN. This shameless TM tie-in is a sort of Eight Degrees of Hagelin theory, if you will. TM is only eight scalar degrees of separation, or vibrational modes of the superstring, from anything, or something like that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mathatbrahman mathatbrahman@ wrote: New mathematical discovery, the E8 Lie group. Has more data than the human genome. Here's an image of it.: (makes a great mathematical mandala). http://aimath.org/E8/mcmullen.html Oooo. Dizzifying. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for +kidscs=bz
[FairfieldLife] Re: Miracles in India
Given my formative, if not formal, religioous education and inspiration was provided by Cecille B. DeMille in the Ten Commandments, I tend to like my miracles to be bigger and grander than blood oozing from a picture, milk seeping, or sucking up, from a ganesh statue, turning water into pudding, or creating holy ash. Parting of the Red Sea -- now THAT was a miracle to behold. Turning the Nile red with blod wasn't bad either. The staff to snakes one was ok. The latter two had symbolic significance, but I like my miracles to have a practical value -- like the parting of the Red Seas -- saving the fleeing hebrews. I was sad the egyptian warriors got killed when the sea closed up -- I guess they were not God's chosen people. Which raises the prospect of a real miracle: God deciding that all of humanity are his chosen and beloved -- and clearly communicating this to all his priests, rabbis, imans, pastors, preachers, shamans, etc that preach in HIS/HER name. But back to visible miracles. As I said, I like the practical kind. I don't see oozing blood helping anyone other than increasing faith -- which could mean increasing magical thinking. I would be far more impressed by master Jesus if he stood on the beach when the Tsunami was roaring in and said: In the name of God my father, and through his power, I command you killer wave to stop in your tracks and leave the millions you are about to kill, and 100's of millions you will leave homeless, to leave all of these my beloved chilren, leave them in peace. Now THAT would have gotten my attention. It meets all my criteria for a good miracle: i) its BIG, ii) its not subject ot trickery and magic manipulation (even David Copperfield or Doug Hennings could not do THAT trick), iii) it does some good for humanity beyond the symbolic. Until I see that kind of miracle, I will be content with minor miracles, people who spend 24/7 helping others, the march of science and technology, a spectacular sunrise, my growing vegetable garden, the stars at night. Those are far more impressive miracles to me than some oozing blood. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Miracles in India Two portraits of Jesus on a remote Indian island began bleeding in March 2007. Eric Nathaniel, a police radio operator in Port Blair on the Andaman Islands noticed blood trickling down a portrait of Jesus in his house on 8 March 2007. We lit candles and prayed all night and a little later the blood dried but it soon started trickling down from the hands and heart of another portrait in the house, Nathaniel said. Thousands of people have since visited Nathaniel's house to see the portraits. In another report from India, blood oozed from the eyes of a statue of Jesus in the yard of a Catholic church on 12 February 2007. The statue at St Joseph the Worker Church in Ghoreghat, Madhya Pradesh, was first seen weeping by Chandrawati Armo, who, after cleaning the statue, noticed it shedding blood from both eyes. Armo told the church's assistant priest, Father Pappachan. I raced to the statue and found blood oozing out of its eyes, he said. Pappachan smelled and tasted the red substance and was convinced it is a miracle. The bleeding statue was also witnessed by nuns and a villager. The flow of blood stopped, and the blood on the statue clotted. Clots are also visible on the statue's hands, according to Father Florentius Kujur, the parish priest. Many people have visited the church to view the statue. (Source: Union of Catholic Asian News; Reuters) (Benjamin Creme's Master confirms that these were miracles manifested by the Master Jesus.)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cool doo dee doo doo story
Argument freaks.. --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: That occured to me when writing it up. The exact *same* story can be pointed to by God freaks Where did that term come from? Is that the opposite of atheist freaks? Yes, and it's totally innocuous. It's a lingering Sixties-ism in my speech. So far on FFL I have used the term dozens of times, in contexts such as enlightenment freak and Bruce Cockburn freak or music freak (both referring to myself), or neat freak, or Mongo freak (referring to fans of a certain short fictional detective). It's a slang way of referring to the odd things that some people get off on. It has no negative connotations, except, seemingly, in your mind. And what's a God freak anyway? I think the term freak is possibly reserved for those pushing an agenda, as it appears you are doing now, my dear Buddhist atheist. Jim, since you stopped actively slamming me, I've taken a chance and replied to a few of your posts as if you were an adult, and as if you were actually a rational human being. My mistake. Back in the trashbin you go. I meant no disrespect to you when I used the terms Buddhist and atheist. Isn't a person who doesn't beileve in God an atheist and aren't you a Buddhist? What you perceived as my anger or rigidity was merely intensity. I read back what I had written and I *got* the intensity, but no anger. And the intensity was merely a reflection of my daily circumstance, not directed at you or FFL. On the other hand, I am trying to be more careful with my writing. Sometimes when I am writing, I will look back at what I have written and realize it didn't convey what I had intended. Case in point was my response to Rory's comment about our taking our subtitles of the life movie as gospel. As many things he writes do, it tickled me and I responded that it was a great joke. Later I realized that could've been miscontrued as me not taking what he said seriously. Writing is a skill that is a challenge for me because it must be self- contained and linear. Give me a good canvas any day, literally. Now, as to your response that 'freak' is reserved for the odd things that people get off on, would you or have you referred to yourself as a 'Tantric freak' or an 'atheist freak' or a 'Buddhism freak'? The reason I ask is that perhaps the term is not as innocuous as you think it is. Maybe, and maybe not. I personally don't know, and that is why I am asking you. And I am also curious why you see atheist as a negative term? I consider those who choose to not recognize God as atheists. What is the issue there? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visualizing the E8 root system
On May 15, 2007, at 9:51 AM, claudiouk wrote: Is Consciousness the Unified Field? - if consciousness is truly most fundamental, there IS a need to relate it to the most fundamental laws of physics, because presently it is being ignored altogether. One wonders if you have read this type of literature, because I've read numerous other hypotheses in this regard, so it's far from being ignored. As for the limits and incomprehensibility of Hagelin's metaphors or equivalences, surely the same could be said of the Vedas - in spite of countless commentaries it remains a rather obscure philosophy/manual of consciousness. Have you read the Vedas? Is that what they really are, manuals of consciousness? You must've read a different Veda than I did then. In the end nothing but realization itself will do.. But I think you are both being too harsh on Hagelin.. He is making valiant efforts to interpret those equations in novel ways, as windows to the properties of the unified field. No, he was read the riot act by his guru: either come up with a unified field/quantum answer for consciousness/TM/TMSP to support what I say or you're out of here. He stayed. Like us looking at the behaviour of someone and figuring out underlying propensities? The discussion on the equations reflecting the non-duality of unity I thought ADDED to my understanding of nonduality I had come across previously from similar statements made by individuals or in scriptures. Of course, if you even find the idea of consciousness as a unified field tenable.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool doo dee doo doo story
Turq: Back in the trashbin you go. Jim: I meant no disrespect to you when I used the terms Buddhist and atheist. snip And the intensity was merely a reflection of my daily circumstance, not directed at you or FFL. Jim. Thanks for taking an interchange like this and standing it down, instead of stepping it up. Hooray! lurk
[FairfieldLife] TM -- Tyrant Money
for slave products, and hasn't dented my shield of denial. Decades of loving love, having a hippy heart, and I'm still involved in the same evil consumerism lifestyle. Frankly, the Nazi putting a bullet into a child was modeling a less hypocritical lifestyle than me. How hard is that concept, eh? If I'm to be a social climber, I have to work my way up to the exalted status of Nazi murderer. No clever words can assuage my role in all this. I can't see any white teeth from here. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/afp/20070515/tpl-us-health-government-politics-10170b4.html More surprising UK ranking good, yet here we think we're in crisis. We think France, for instance, is better looked after.. In an interesting juxtaposition, Michael Moore's new film Sicko is set to premiere at Cannes soon, and since in it he takes on the damn-the- patient-profit-at-any-cost policies of the US health care industry and pharmaceutical industries, he's come under fire from the Bush administration, which is...uh...somewhat in these industries' pocket. They're claiming he violated a trade embargo with Cuba by going there during the filming. Guess they're still pissed off about Fahrenheit 9/11, eh? http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/entertainment/view/276253/1/.html Moore describes the new film as a comedy about 45 million people with no health care in the richest country on Earth. While many may bristle at his tendency to mix comedy and scathing satire with serious issues, I applaud it. The thing that the robber barons of the world hate most is to be laughed at, and Moore helps people to laugh at them. May he continue to make his films, and may the people continue to laugh at those who make a profit from either killing their fellow man (Bowling for Columbine and F 9/11) or just allowing them to die because they don't care whether they live or die, only about profit (Sicko), because when the laughter dies, what remains might be a sense of outrage, and a desire to stop these travesties. As for Michael himself, this article implies that he's well aware of the shoot the messenger tactics that will be used against him, and has hired one of the best PR firms in the business to counter their attacks. I don't care whether one likes Michael Moore and his sensibilities or not; I still believe that the world desper- ately needs more people like him.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Miracles in India
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given my formative, if not formal, religioous education and inspiration was provided by Cecille B. DeMille in the Ten Commandments, I tend to like my miracles to be bigger and grander than blood oozing from a picture, milk seeping, or sucking up, from a ganesh statue, turning water into pudding, or creating holy ash. Parting of the Red Sea -- now THAT was a miracle to behold. Turning the Nile red with blod wasn't bad either. The staff to snakes one was ok. The latter two had symbolic significance, but I like my miracles to have a practical value -- like the parting of the Red Seas -- saving the fleeing hebrews. I was sad the egyptian warriors got killed when the sea closed up -- I guess they were not God's chosen people. Which raises the prospect of a real miracle: God deciding that all of humanity are his chosen and beloved -- and clearly communicating this to all his priests, rabbis, imans, pastors, preachers, shamans, etc that preach in HIS/HER name. But back to visible miracles. As I said, I like the practical kind. I don't see oozing blood helping anyone other than increasing faith -- Faith is a very good thing indeed. which could mean increasing magical thinking. I would be far more impressed by master Jesus if he stood on the beach when the Tsunami was roaring in and said: In the name of God my father, and through his power, I command you killer wave to stop in your tracks and leave the millions you are about to kill, and 100's of millions you will leave homeless, to leave all of these my beloved chilren, leave them in peace. Nice thought, but it would certainly infringe on the principle of karma. Some people just had to go that day. The Masters did however make the rather irritated snakes that stranded on some rafts in the sea after the tsumani together with humans more friendly. One child stayed peacefully on one of those rafts together with a huge snake for several days. Also the snakes in the trees did not bite the people with whom they shared temporary refuge. Some will go, some will stay. Maharishi, Washington, 1982 If they have to go, why not go together ? -Maharishi, on air- disasters --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Miracles in India Two portraits of Jesus on a remote Indian island began bleeding in March 2007. Eric Nathaniel, a police radio operator in Port Blair on the Andaman Islands noticed blood trickling down a portrait of Jesus in his house on 8 March 2007. We lit candles and prayed all night and a little later the blood dried but it soon started trickling down from the hands and heart of another portrait in the house, Nathaniel said. Thousands of people have since visited Nathaniel's house to see the portraits. In another report from India, blood oozed from the eyes of a statue of Jesus in the yard of a Catholic church on 12 February 2007. The statue at St Joseph the Worker Church in Ghoreghat, Madhya Pradesh, was first seen weeping by Chandrawati Armo, who, after cleaning the statue, noticed it shedding blood from both eyes. Armo told the church's assistant priest, Father Pappachan. I raced to the statue and found blood oozing out of its eyes, he said. Pappachan smelled and tasted the red substance and was convinced it is a miracle. The bleeding statue was also witnessed by nuns and a villager. The flow of blood stopped, and the blood on the statue clotted. Clots are also visible on the statue's hands, according to Father Florentius Kujur, the parish priest. Many people have visited the church to view the statue. (Source: Union of Catholic Asian News; Reuters) (Benjamin Creme's Master confirms that these were miracles manifested by the Master Jesus.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM -- Tyrant Money
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone reading these words thinks their part in all this is trivial, look out. There's a fist coming your nose's way. The earth cannot stand this degradation for much longer, mebets. A nice long winter for all of us via the Yellowstone super volcano might be our comeuppance -- surely nothing less would be deserved. If something big does happen, we'll all be in rags, huddled in cold dark rooms, with water being the new oil. How many years in such a hovel do I deserve for all the Walmarting I've done? Decades of meditation hasn't dented this system, hasn't dented my appetites for slave products, and hasn't dented my shield of denial. Have a checking.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 5-MEO-DMT Sasha Shulgin's rating scale
It used to be out in CA MDMA (Ecstasy) was legal for talk therapy which I think was wonderful. People who were totally estranged even could open their hearts and heal. I remember when it used to legal nationwide. It's amazing how much our politicians and lawmakers fear humans having use of their own nervous systems. On May 14, 2007, at 11:59 AM, Marek Reavis wrote: Shulgin and his partner came and lectured at a class I took in law school, though I wasn't there the day they came (bummer). Here is another experience report from Erowid.org that is interesting in this context: http://tinyurl.com/yuoqay
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM -- Tyrant Money
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Decades of meditation hasn't dented this system, hasn't dented my appetites for slave products, and hasn't dented my shield of denial. Have a checking. Nab, I checked my morality at the door when I joined the Hidden Slaves Party. But you think I've forgotten how to take the mantra? I know you were being at least partially facetious, but hey! You may need a checking also -- need what my beloved father called a dead end slap. Remember the Dead End Kids? They'd slap each other like proto-Stooges. As in: slap some sense into you, you mug. I love tough talk from the forties! So Nabby, shamus on you! Let me slap some bracelets on ya, put you under a 500 watt light, shove a gat to your temple, and I'll CHECK YOU -- see if you're taking the mantra easily -- see if that kind of mental practice makes anything easy for you -- maybe you can do anything evil as it comes now -- like buying slave products for almost free. To me, you're one of the good guys here. So, I think you owe us all a serious statement about where you really stand on this matter. Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Visualizing the E8 root system
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 15, 2007, at 9:51 AM, claudiouk wrote: snip But I think you are both being too harsh on Hagelin.. He is making valiant efforts to interpret those equations in novel ways, as windows to the properties of the unified field. No, he was read the riot act by his guru: either come up with a unified field/quantum answer for consciousness/TM/TMSP to support what I say or you're out of here. He stayed. Not surprisingly, Vaj is misrepresenting this six ways to Sunday. Here's what he's basing his claim on, a post by Patrick Gillam from January 2006 (#139273): I'm trying to summon a memory of a conversation with a former assistant of John Hagelin. This would have been the late 1980s or early '90s. As I recall, she said John was under pressure from Maharishi to tour the country, telling scientists that consciousness was indeed the unified field. John resisted, saying his research partners would frown upon it, and more to the point, it wasn't such a slam-dunk parallel. But Maharishi persisted, ultimately saying, If you won't do it, I'll find someone who will. So John did it. To start with, this is third-hand information; Patrick acknowledges that his recollection is vague. But note that the issue was *touring the country addressing groups of non-TM scientists* with the consciousness-is-the-unified-field notion, not coming up with it in the first place, as Vaj erroneously claims. As Lawson pointed out to Vaj on alt.m.t when Vaj made this claim there, the notion was, in fact, the reason Hagelin had come to MUM, giving up his prestigious gig at CERN. There's just no question that it was something Hagelin believed in fervently, and he had already developed the idea in some detail by the time MMY told him to go on tour with it. Again, the physics/consciousness connection *was why he came to MIU to work with MMY*. The claim that he was forced by MMY to come up with a theory he didn't believe in is entirely bogus. Wasn't such a slam-dunk parallel could mean several different things (especially since we don't know if this was a verbatim quote), but in this context, given that we *do* know Hagelin believed in the notion, it seems likely that what Hagelin meant was that the notion was still *speculative*, not something that was ready to present to the non-TM physics community as an actual full-fledged theory. It's also not clear that Hagelin ever went on such a tour. According to Lawson, who is pretty familiar with Hagelin's work, Hagelin may have given an informal talk here or there to a particular group, but there was never any kind of full-dress tour. (And we don't know how Hagelin ended up presenting the notion to the groups he spoke to. My guess is that he did present it as speculative, just as he did in the paper.) The difference here between what Vaj says and the real story is a sterling example of why, when Vaj makes an unsupported claim, it's important to have a large saltshaker handy. Either Vaj has a terrible memory, or he doesn't care about accuracy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 5-MEO-DMT Sasha Shulgin's rating scale
In 1984-85, the DEA refused to wait for the procedural path of hearings and testimony re the actual scientific evidence and anecdotal findings from clinical psychologists and therapists who were using MDMA in counseling, and made an emergency determination that MDMA was a Schedule I substance with no medical or scientific value whatsoever. Later that same year (1985) the administrative judge who did review the documentation and evidence provided by the DEA as well as scientists and doctors made the determination that MDMA should be a Schedule III substance, available for both research and prescription use. In his recommended ruling, contained in his full findings and rulings at http://tinyurl.com/2f9cf7 the judge rejected the DEA's and the government's position on MDMA, writing The administrative law judge recommends that the proposed findings and conclusions submitted by the participants be rejected by the Administrator, except to the extent they are included in the judge's recommendations, for the reason that they are irrelevant, unduly repetitious or not supported by substantial evidence. Unfortunately, the law allows the DEA to trump the admin law judge's determination and to continue with emergency scheduling despite the evidence. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It used to be out in CA MDMA (Ecstasy) was legal for talk therapy which I think was wonderful. People who were totally estranged even could open their hearts and heal. I remember when it used to legal nationwide. It's amazing how much our politicians and lawmakers fear humans having use of their own nervous systems. On May 14, 2007, at 11:59 AM, Marek Reavis wrote: Shulgin and his partner came and lectured at a class I took in law school, though I wasn't there the day they came (bummer). Here is another experience report from Erowid.org that is interesting in this context: http://tinyurl.com/yuoqay
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cool doo dee doo doo story
--- lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Turq: Back in the trashbin you go. Jim: I meant no disrespect to you when I used the terms Buddhist and atheist. snip And the intensity was merely a reflection of my daily circumstance, not directed at you or FFL. Jim. Thanks for taking an interchange like this and standing it down, instead of stepping it up. Hooray! lurk Lurk, what the f**k is your problem, you a**hole! ;-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visualizing the E8 root system
Just my usual too quick on the trigger response. I hear the term super string or anything of that ilk associated with TM and my brain locks-up! I'm sure it can have value for people, such as John Hagelin, who actually understand it and can facilitate deeper understanding of the mechanichs of consciousness, but for us lay folk it is mind numbing. --- at_man_and_brahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, I didn't say that the E(8)xE(8) heterotic superstring theory had anything to do with TM, nor did Hagelin at the time he was at CERN. That came later. He was still about two years from writing his first TM/physics monograph. My point was that *I* had made a connection between the E(8) Lie group and TM by explaining that it had a relationship to Hagelin himself, and by extension to the TM universe. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All this theoretical physics stuff from Hagelin is a metaphor, and a poor metaphor at that. It is essentially incomprehensible and contributes absolutely nothing to the understanding of Realization. --- at_man_and_brahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The E(8) Lie group is an essential component of the E(8)xE(8) heterotic superstring that Hagelin was involved with at CERN. This shameless TM tie-in is a sort of Eight Degrees of Hagelin theory, if you will. TM is only eight scalar degrees of separation, or vibrational modes of the superstring, from anything, or something like that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mathatbrahman mathatbrahman@ wrote: New mathematical discovery, the E8 Lie group. Has more data than the human genome. Here's an image of it.: (makes a great mathematical mandala). http://aimath.org/E8/mcmullen.html Oooo. Dizzifying. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for +kidscs=bz To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php
[FairfieldLife] Scientology report on BBC 'Panorama'
From a friend: Hi Rick, There was an interesting report on Scientology last night on BBC TV. The reporter gets hounded by the church members until he eventally loses it completely. Interesting viewing! Regards R http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/programmes/panorama/default.stm
[FairfieldLife] Re: Visualizing the E8 root system
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just my usual too quick on the trigger response. I hear the term super string or anything of that ilk associated with TM and my brain locks-up! I'm sure it can have value for people, such as John Hagelin, who actually understand it and can facilitate deeper understanding of the mechanichs of consciousness, but for us lay folk it is mind numbing. That's its true purpose. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Hog Article
From a friend: http://www.iowasource.com/health/CAFO_airqu_0805.html Rumor is that a hog farm is trying to go up within few of THMD and pundits housing in Vedic City. This article was written by someone who works at ArtSelect.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visualizing the E8 root system
On May 15, 2007, at 12:14 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just my usual too quick on the trigger response. I hear the term super string or anything of that ilk associated with TM and my brain locks-up! I'm sure it can have value for people, such as John Hagelin, who actually understand it and can facilitate deeper understanding of the mechanichs of consciousness, but for us lay folk it is mind numbing. That's its true purpose. :-) You laugh, but that's actually very true! What better way to sway the masses than to bombard them with Hagelin's pseudoscience as part of your marketing spiel? It *sounds* true, so therefore it must be good. After all, science cannot lie. Or so they'd like us to believe. Well, at least he got an award in pseudoscience for some of his efforts. Well deserved I might add ;-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] TM -- Tyrant Money
Duveyoung wrote: Why Michael Moore hasn't been killed by Tyrant Money (TM) long ago is a surprise to my paranoia patterns, and frankly, maybe the world isn't quite as bad as it seems if he's still allowed to make such a pest of himself. I mean, shouldn't he have died of natural causes by now? With today's pharmaceuticals that cannot be traced why let such a popular gadfly go around riling the masses? Rent the movie The Corporation. In the extras Moore explains why he gets away with it in that they Tyrant Money makes money selling his stuff. Tyrant Money plays both sides. It's like a giant global chess game among the very rich. Tyrant Money underwrote both the Bolshevik Revolution and the rise of Hitler. The solution is a global revolution to take their power (their money) from them. They are less than 1% of the population so we way outnumber. If we don't do this soon they'll kill most of us off and turn the rest into nanobot controlled zombies.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Visualizing the E8 root system
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Well, at least he got an award in pseudoscience for some of his efforts. Well deserved I might add ;-) And another example of the need to take a saltshaker to Vaj's claims. The award he's referring to is the Ig Nobel, which is most decidedly *not* in pseudoscience. Vaj knows this, because I've pointed it out before.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reflections on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras (For Richard and all)
Richard, I believe Patanjali had inherited the knowlege of the nature of the divine through his vedic background. He was confirming and validating some of the techniques to realize the Self. Based on Iyengar's translation of the Yoga Sutras, I came to a conclusion that each sutra can be analyzed and dissected in many ways based on the various traditions of vedic knowledge. Iyengar's translation has given me the impression that the path of yoga is very austere and time consuming. On the other hand, MMY's explanation of the Yoga Sutras makes the path of yoga appear easy and accessible. Regards, John R. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John wrote: In my opinion, we can make a lot of speculations about the nature of the divine. Did Patanjali make any such speculations? Which brings us to the final question: what is reality? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/138751
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reflections on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras (For Richard and all)
On May 15, 2007, at 1:31 PM, John wrote: I believe Patanjali had inherited the knowlege of the nature of the divine through his vedic background. What Vedic background?
[FairfieldLife] Jerry Falwell dead
At the age of 73.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Falwell dead
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the age of 73. They say that when one dies, one goes to heaven first if one has more negative karma to pay for in hell. Then the good karma having been burned off, one then goes to finish the job in hell. If one has more good karma, one goes to hell first. I like the system! Jerry Falwell may get, tops, 15 minutes of fame in heaven and then, after that taste of bliss, down he goes. Anyone figuring otherwise? I heard Dr. Phil say, I'd give up my front seat in hell to have been there. A very Texan notion, eh? Well, I'd give up at least a few minutes in heaven to have Phil's seat when Jerry arrives. The look on his face: priceless. I'd have compassion for the dude, but he never modeled it to me or the world. Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reflections on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras (For Billy G. and all)
Billy, My comments to your other statements are as follows: 1. The fall was the temptation of Lucifer in the spinal canal of infant humanity, (sexual energy in the spine, hence the metaphor of the snake), now he had freewill and 'fell' (i.e. succumbed to temptation) from the nursery home of his passive spiritual consciousness in the higher regions of the then constituted brain. When I was in high school many years ago, I read a book which stated that Lucifer and his cohorts rebelled from the status quo of the heavenly realm because of humans. Based on his super intuitive powers, Lucifer was able to deduce that the Almighty had plans to manifest on earth by incarnating as a human being. Lucifer and his friends were angered by this idea as they thought they, as angels, were more advanced than humans. They did not want humans to inherit the divine life. Thus, the rebellion started in heaven. Needless to say, Lucifer and his rebels lost the battle and were sent to Hell. From there, Lucifer made it his mission to make humans fall from grace. Thus, we see the work of the snake in the Garden of Eden. This idea is played out in Milton's Paradise Lost. (to be continued) Regards, John R. He now launched his journey thru learning the lessons of matter/life and its opposites, until he achieves MASTERY and becomes a *MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE*. A veritable Purusha in his own right. As it says in the Bible... Psalm 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Jerry Falwell dead
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of authfriend Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 12:45 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Jerry Falwell dead At the age of 73. Now he' reveling with his 72 virgins. Oops, wrong heaven.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Falwell dead
Dunno about any of this, but I'd sure love to hear what Jesus has to say to him face to face. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: At the age of 73. They say that when one dies, one goes to heaven first if one has more negative karma to pay for in hell. Then the good karma having been burned off, one then goes to finish the job in hell. If one has more good karma, one goes to hell first. I like the system! Jerry Falwell may get, tops, 15 minutes of fame in heaven and then, after that taste of bliss, down he goes. Anyone figuring otherwise? I heard Dr. Phil say, I'd give up my front seat in hell to have been there. A very Texan notion, eh? Well, I'd give up at least a few minutes in heaven to have Phil's seat when Jerry arrives. The look on his face: priceless. I'd have compassion for the dude, but he never modeled it to me or the world. Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Falwell dead
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the age of 73. Jerry Falwell dead Who? OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: US health system ranks last compared to other countries
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/afp/20070515/tpl-us-health-government- politics- 10170b4.html More surprising UK ranking good, yet here we think we're in crisis. We think France, for instance, is better looked after.. I don't believe this report. In the States you pay a little bit of money each week and you get a much faster, and better service. If you can get health insurance at all, that is. And the service isn't necessarily either faster or better. What specifically do you not believe about the report? Just FYI, right before I went on Medicare in February of this year, my group health insurance premiums--single, no dependents-- had been raised to $14,612 a year.. Ouch ! That's $281 a week, hardly a little bit of money. So Medicare pays for you? How does that work? Let's see: Cost of $281 a week (?for an extreme case?) = about $6 an hour for the average joe. Cost of goods in general in Western Europe: About $5 an hour MORE than in the US for the average joe. Cost of income taxes in general in Europe: About $2 an hour more than in the US for the average joe. Cost of gasoline in Europe: About $3 an hour more than in the US for the average joe. Cost of decent housing (rent or buy) in Europe: At least $8 an hour more than in the US for the average joe. Cost of decent entertainment in Europe: About $5 an hour more than in the US for the average joe. Think I'll stay with US and just figure out how to earn $5-$10 an hour more over the next 10 years. But I understand your point about people with more health issues, and elderly, and large families (is it that those that don't breed as many children can handle the costs more, or is it that the poor tend to breed more and suffer the consequesnces? -- both I think?) However, there are a lot of back up services and charitable services in the US. But if I was American and sick long-term and unable to pay my health insurance. I would let myself go bankrupt and then go to the National Capital Washington Memorial and die under the statue with my story written in my book. If it is as bad as you say, I think someone, or many people, in America would do the same. Cost of GW Bush and Tony Blair and Cronies Quagmire: Uncountable, unpayable. As for French health care, well.a couple of times in the last few years they had a massive die off of patients due to no air conditioningso, of course, there are less people for the system to pay for. Good system. Kill the weak. Of course, since I work freelance, I had to pay for all of it, no employer contribution, so it was higher than for most employees. But most freelancers have a terrible time getting *any* health insurance, and those who do pay a very substantial percentage of their income for it. I got it no problem as a freelancer and pay about 340 a month (cost: about $2 an hour). OffWorld
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jerry Falwell dead
On May 15, 2007, at 12:45 PM, authfriend wrote: At the age of 73. Wow. Must have been the abortionists, feminists, gays and other liberal riffraff that finally got him. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: US health system ranks last compared to other countries
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Just FYI, right before I went on Medicare in February of this year, my group health insurance premiums--single, no dependents-- had been raised to $14,612 a year.. Ouch ! That's $281 a week, hardly a little bit of money. So Medicare pays for you? How does that work? Complicated. Everyone over 65 who has paid into the system via their Social Security taxes is covered by Medicare automatically and (I think) completely for hospitalization; it will also, for a smallish premium, cover doctor's visits and outpatient stuff up to a point (for physicians who take Medicare), but most people need additional insurance (called Medigap) because there are always some out- of-pocket costs. Medigap policies are offered by private companies, but to specifications laid down by Medicare. You can now also get a private HMO plan through Medicare, which may or may not cost you less and may or may not give you the same service. Some are saying it's a scam, but I didn't take that option, so I'm not up on the details. Then there's prescription drug coverage, which until a year or so ago hadn't been covered at all. Now you can get a private policy if you're eligible for Medicare that covers up to $2,400 per year with copayments; then you have to pay additional costs up to--I forget, $5,000 or something--at which point the policy takes over again. This is called the doughnut hole and is very bad for many people who have to take a lot of drugs or expensive drugs. The drug plan is also a boon to the drug companies because Medicare is prohibited from negotiating prices, and there are other big problems with it too complicated to go into. Even with all this, it's still considerably cheaper to be on Medicare. But it's getting more expensive to the government by the day, and something is going to have to be done to curb costs. Major policy mess. Of course, since I work freelance, I had to pay for all of it, no employer contribution, so it was higher than for most employees. But most freelancers have a terrible time getting *any* health insurance, and those who do pay a very substantial percentage of their income for it. I got it no problem as a freelancer and pay about 340 a month (cost: about $2 an hour). Depends on what state you're in and what kind of policy you want.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Falwell dead
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: At the age of 73. Jerry Falwell dead Who? Extremely influential right-wing fundamentalist Christian preacher. Check out one of the obits for details. Here's the NYTimes: http://tinyurl.com/33xoyt
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US health system ranks last compared to other countries
authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Just FYI, right before I went on Medicare in February of this year, my group health insurance premiums--single, no dependents-- had been raised to $14,612 a year.. Ouch ! That's $281 a week, hardly a little bit of money. So Medicare pays for you? How does that work? Complicated. Everyone over 65 who has paid into the system via their Social Security taxes is covered by Medicare automatically and (I think) completely for hospitalization; it will also, for a smallish premium, cover doctor's visits and outpatient stuff up to a point (for physicians who take Medicare), but most people need additional insurance (called Medigap) because there are always some out- of-pocket costs. Medigap policies are offered by private companies, but to specifications laid down by Medicare. You can now also get a private HMO plan through Medicare, which may or may not cost you less and may or may not give you the same service. Some are saying it's a scam, but I didn't take that option, so I'm not up on the details. Then there's prescription drug coverage, which until a year or so ago hadn't been covered at all. Now you can get a private policy if you're eligible for Medicare that covers up to $2,400 per year with copayments; then you have to pay additional costs up to--I forget, $5,000 or something--at which point the policy takes over again. This is called the doughnut hole and is very bad for many people who have to take a lot of drugs or expensive drugs. The drug plan is also a boon to the drug companies because Medicare is prohibited from negotiating prices, and there are other big problems with it too complicated to go into. Even with all this, it's still considerably cheaper to be on Medicare. But it's getting more expensive to the government by the day, and something is going to have to be done to curb costs. Major policy mess. Of course, since I work freelance, I had to pay for all of it, no employer contribution, so it was higher than for most employees. But most freelancers have a terrible time getting *any* health insurance, and those who do pay a very substantial percentage of their income for it. I got it no problem as a freelancer and pay about 340 a month (cost: about $2 an hour). Depends on what state you're in and what kind of policy you want. And how much deductible. My policy is around $240 a month but then they add a 50% surcharge because I am overweight plus I have a $2500 deductible. Policies for self-employed people aren't as good as group policies either. This is a crime but then most big business is run by organized crime anymore anyway. My doctor had a fit over the 50% surcharge, he could see 10-15% but not 50%. Once you get down to what weight they think you should be (within about 10 lbs) if you stay there or under for 6 months they'll drop the surcharge. I think for this country we need to erase the blackboard and start over again. It's way too screwed up to fix.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 5-MEO-DMT Sasha Shulgin's rating scale
1984-1985(just say no!)... (Ronnie never did like drugs) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In 1984-85, the DEA refused to wait for the procedural path of hearings and testimony re the actual scientific evidence and anecdotal findings from clinical psychologists and therapists who were using MDMA in counseling, and made an emergency determination that MDMA was a Schedule I substance with no medical or scientific value whatsoever. Later that same year (1985) the administrative judge who did review the documentation and evidence provided by the DEA as well as scientists and doctors made the determination that MDMA should be a Schedule III substance, available for both research and prescription use. In his recommended ruling, contained in his full findings and rulings at http://tinyurl.com/2f9cf7 the judge rejected the DEA's and the government's position on MDMA, writing The administrative law judge recommends that the proposed findings and conclusions submitted by the participants be rejected by the Administrator, except to the extent they are included in the judge's recommendations, for the reason that they are irrelevant, unduly repetitious or not supported by substantial evidence. Unfortunately, the law allows the DEA to trump the admin law judge's determination and to continue with emergency scheduling despite the evidence. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: It used to be out in CA MDMA (Ecstasy) was legal for talk therapy which I think was wonderful. People who were totally estranged even could open their hearts and heal. I remember when it used to legal nationwide. It's amazing how much our politicians and lawmakers fear humans having use of their own nervous systems. On May 14, 2007, at 11:59 AM, Marek Reavis wrote: Shulgin and his partner came and lectured at a class I took in law school, though I wasn't there the day they came (bummer). Here is another experience report from Erowid.org that is interesting in this context: http://tinyurl.com/yuoqay
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Falwell dead
I would have my doubts about him ever seeing Jesus. authfriend wrote: Dunno about any of this, but I'd sure love to hear what Jesus has to say to him face to face. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: At the age of 73. They say that when one dies, one goes to heaven first if one has more negative karma to pay for in hell. Then the good karma having been burned off, one then goes to finish the job in hell. If one has more good karma, one goes to hell first. I like the system! Jerry Falwell may get, tops, 15 minutes of fame in heaven and then, after that taste of bliss, down he goes. Anyone figuring otherwise? I heard Dr. Phil say, I'd give up my front seat in hell to have been there. A very Texan notion, eh? Well, I'd give up at least a few minutes in heaven to have Phil's seat when Jerry arrives. The look on his face: priceless. I'd have compassion for the dude, but he never modeled it to me or the world. Edg
[FairfieldLife] PBS To The Contrary presents feature on TM and ADHD this weekend
Dear Friends, PBS has recently shot a feature story on the effect of the Transcendental Meditation technique on ADHD. We have just learned that it will air this May 18-20 weekend throughout the US. To find when is airing this weekend in your city, go to: http://www.pbs.org/ttc/schedule.htmlhttp://www.pbs.org/ttc/schedule.html and enter your own zip code. This 10 minute segment will appear on the program, TO THE CONTRARY, a popular program for parents. The segment is quite inspiring. PBS interviewed students at American University and the Kingsbury School who have ADHD and who are practicing the Transcendental Meditation technique. PBS also interviewed researchers Sarina Grosswald and Alarik Arenander. We would like to encourage you to email this news to meditators, friends and family, as soon as possible to watch this program, especially friends whose children have ADHD. This may inspire them to learn the Transcendental Meditation program. As part of your email you might also want to mention that people can learn more about the benefits of the Transcendental Meditation program for those with ADHD by visiting www.adhd-tm.org http://www.adhd-tm.org/http://www.adhd-tm.org/ All the best, Sarina J. Grosswald, EdD Stress-Free Schools Program Transcendental Meditation® technique [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sarina J. Grosswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] (202) 797-0602
[FairfieldLife] Re: US health system ranks last compared to other countries
The U.S. Health System is sick because it is a regulated monopoly. What we need is LESS government, not more. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/afp/20070515/tpl-us-health-government- politics- 10170b4.html More surprising UK ranking good, yet here we think we're in crisis. We think France, for instance, is better looked after.. I don't believe this report. In the States you pay a little bit of money each week and you get a much faster, and better service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Falwell dead
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the age of 73. Good. Now Jesus can start punishing him for misrepresenting him for so long.
[FairfieldLife] Hitchens/Sharpton debate on video
http://www.slate.com/id/2166143?nav=tap3
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM -- Tyrant Money
The Third World is as much to blame as the West for this Screwed up GINI - index. The World has become too Complex and too Complicated a place for any one country to solve all it's problems. You need Powerfull Global institutions that can function independently to solve Global Problems. For example, Printing of Currencies should be taken out of the hands of National Governments and handed over to a Global body who can print Universal World Currency. etc etc. Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 14:54:34 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM -- Tyrant Money Why Michael Moore hasn't been killed by Tyrant Money (TM) long ago is a surprise to my paranoia patterns, and frankly, maybe the world isn't quite as bad as it seems if he's still allowed to make such a pest of himself. I mean, shouldn't he have died of natural causes by now? With today's pharmaceuticals that cannot be traced why let such a popular gadfly go around riling the masses? Maybe, TM sees that he's not THAT much of a pest, and he's allowed to roam about as a symbol of the largess and basic decency of our TM OVERLORDS -- as a crass marketing-balancing for the BILLIONS OF LIVES IN POVERTY that they're responsible for -- nay, that YOU AND I are responsible for whenever we buy jeans, gas, or McDonald's burgers at a price that only slave labor, whole nations under a boot, and the denuding of South America can make possible. We should be paying maybe several hundred bucks for a pair of jeans at $11.00 per hour labor costs -- but 16 girls with Simon Legree for a shift supervisor must work from dawn to dusk in a one-light-bulb dungeon for a single dollar to make one pair -- something like that. Goggle it sweatshops and in seconds you'll be writhing in shame. I've had things manufactured on the Pacific Rim, and I've been in the actual shops where wandering chickens and workers in rags and flip flops were seen in the same glance. Once, I had to directly hire a small work crew of independent inspectors I needed for quality control of a production line, and at $4.00 per hour, you could see how lucky they felt. But it was a low point for me no matter their relative happiness. I was a slave owner. It was only a matter of degree, not kind, in my eyes. I still am a slave owner. So is anyone who buys almost anything for almost nothing at Walmart. If I'm not buying baby seal fur products, so why do I feel okay (stunned numb?) when I buy shirts that were death-clubbed out of Asia? Psychological addiction for such products despite their vibe are the fuel for of this evil system -- but, if the common person on the street had to stand there and actually watch for merely a mere few minutes as their clothing was being made, who'd wear the clothes? We're all in cahoots by pretending that this is not the truth. Today's chains and shackles are financial and political, today's slaves are independent workers, today's slaves are as controlled as the Ronald's cattle being lined up at the arbiter -- only, you know, the cattle luck out and get a quick death. How about, starting now, we only buy used clothes, we reduce gas consumption to zero for most days, and we picket McDucks with placards showing the ACTUAL SATELLITE PHOTOS OF ONE THIRD OF BRAZIL where all the animals and all the plants have been SLASHED AND BURNED OFF THE EARTH so that a heart-attacks- on-a-bun can cost almost nothing while we munch a bunch at lunch. I'd say the Nazi's with their human skin lampshades would be quite at home with us. Have us over for schnapps, nicht wahr? If the world goes sane, they'll come for us with nooses. They'll ask us what we were thinking to enslave and rape the world. We'll all be like the townspeople living in smell-range of Auschwitz say, Ve didn't know vat vuz der schmoken fromen zie chimmenzies. Ve tot dey vuzzin happy TM blissenheimers ven dey maken der shirts. Now that I'm pretending here to be temporarily sane, FUCK! -- Michael Moore should be ashamed of himself for saying so little so quietly so ineffectively. He's got a mass audience, word skills, and a ton of money too -- that jolly scoundrel should be screaming in our faces about the blood on our hands, but instead, he's making parlor jokes so's to not be tossed from the elitists' soirée donchaknow. It's not just blood on our hands, not the girls being raped by their factory monsters. If only that was our sin. It's the death of whole species, death of hope, death of morality, death of civilization. If I saw a toddler walking a yellow line on the street without supervision, I'd stop my car in the middle of the road and run to that kid's aid. You would too, right? But 10,000 children DIE EACH DAY because I and other LORDS OF CAPITALISM want cheap shirts, cheap oil, cheap meat. Poverty could have completely erased here in America if we'd spent the Iraq War Fund on health, education and infrastructure. But, no, we had to send our
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Falwell dead
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have my doubts about him ever seeing Jesus. I wouldn't. I'll bet Jesus can hardly wait. authfriend wrote: Dunno about any of this, but I'd sure love to hear what Jesus has to say to him face to face. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: At the age of 73. They say that when one dies, one goes to heaven first if one has more negative karma to pay for in hell. Then the good karma having been burned off, one then goes to finish the job in hell. If one has more good karma, one goes to hell first. I like the system! Jerry Falwell may get, tops, 15 minutes of fame in heaven and then, after that taste of bliss, down he goes. Anyone figuring otherwise? I heard Dr. Phil say, I'd give up my front seat in hell to have been there. A very Texan notion, eh? Well, I'd give up at least a few minutes in heaven to have Phil's seat when Jerry arrives. The look on his face: priceless. I'd have compassion for the dude, but he never modeled it to me or the world. Edg
[FairfieldLife] PBS on TM and ADHD
PBS has recently shot a feature story on the effect of the Transcendental Meditation technique on ADHD. We have just learned that it will air this May 18-20 weekend throughout the US. To find when is airing this weekend in your city, go to: http://www.pbs.org/ttc/schedule.html and enter your own zip code. This 10 minute segment will appear on the program, TO THE CONTRARY, a popular program for parents. The segment is quite inspiring. PBS interviewed students at American University and the Kingsbury School who have ADHD and who are practicing the Transcendental Meditation technique. PBS also interviewed researchers Sarina Grosswald and Alarik Arenander. We would like to encourage you to email this news to meditators, friends and family, as soon as possible to watch this program, especially friends whose children have ADHD. This may inspire them to learn the Transcendental Meditation program. As part of your email you might also want to mention that people can learn more about the benefits of the Transcendental Meditation program for those with ADHD by visiting www.adhd-tm.org http://www.adhd-tm.org/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Falwell dead
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: At the age of 73. Jerry Falwell dead Who? Extremely influential right-wing fundamentalist Christian preacher. Check out one of the obits for details. Here's the NYTimes: http://tinyurl.com/33xoyt Ha ha ha, glad he's dead. He has done a service to the environment by dieing, the worms are loving living off all that fat. OffWorld OffWorld
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US health system ranks last compared to other countries
To my knowledge it is not that much regulated at all. In fact it is a free for all for privatized health care. So called competition isn't working. In fact privatization of many things that WERE once government regulated have proved to be a disaster. We seem to have mafia run healthcare. shempmcgurk wrote: The U.S. Health System is sick because it is a regulated monopoly. What we need is LESS government, not more. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/afp/20070515/tpl-us-health-government- politics- 10170b4.html More surprising UK ranking good, yet here we think we're in crisis. We think France, for instance, is better looked after.. I don't believe this report. In the States you pay a little bit of money each week and you get a much faster, and better service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hitchens/Sharpton debate on video
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.slate.com/id/2166143?nav=tap3 Dr. King visits Mahatma Gandhi, 1959 http://www.physicist.fsnet.co.uk/mlkgandhi.jpg http://www.thekingcenter.org/mlk/chronology.html OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hitchens/Sharpton debate on video
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.slate.com/id/2166143?nav=tap3 Thanks for posting this. Excellent debate. Christopher Hitchens (apart from his MASSIVE and UNPARRALLED historical and strategic blunder and ignorance about invading an oil rich country in the desert tribal regions (Iraq) and thinking it could have any positive outcomes...PURE stupidity at its best)...in this debate he is brilliant. He teaches the future, which is based on scientific research, published in peer-reviewed scientific journals (and we might forgive him for calling Mother Theresa an 'old bitch', but probably we will cut off at least one of his balls for that. Small price to pay). OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi reinvented spiritual language for us
I was thinking about powerful words like karma, God, Dharma, Buddha, yagya, Goddess, angel, Shiva, Ganesh, Brahman, and all the other words that we use so regularly here. Before I began meditating, such words were confusing at best, and generally stale for me. I felt no immediate vibration from them, and no connection to them. I find that now such words are alive, as alive as any living thing or possibly anything at all. The gradual transformation I have witnessed in my appreciation of such words has been remarkable when viewed over the span of my practice of TM. Perhaps it is the same with other techniques too, anything that reliably allows us to transcend the surface value of sound, to uncover the fullness and liveliness of it, way beyond the stale up-in-my-head definitions that I found so common and so dreary in my earlier years before TM really took hold. I mention this not as a unique experience, but rather as what I am sure is a common experience for all meditators, the experience of language becoming very very lively as our practice continues.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool doo dee doo doo story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip On the other hand, I am trying to be more careful with my writing. Sometimes when I am writing, I will look back at what I have written and realize it didn't convey what I had intended. Case in point was my response to Rory's comment about our taking our subtitles of the life movie as gospel. As many things he writes do, it tickled me and I responded that it was a great joke. Later I realized that could've been miscontrued as me not taking what he said seriously. snip No worries, mate! It was meant both seriously and humorously (or neither, or whatever), likle most of the material I generate, and I figure you got that (and That)! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool doo dee doo doo story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: snip On the other hand, I am trying to be more careful with my writing. Sometimes when I am writing, I will look back at what I have written and realize it didn't convey what I had intended. Case in point was my response to Rory's comment about our taking our subtitles of the life movie as gospel. As many things he writes do, it tickled me and I responded that it was a great joke. Later I realized that could've been miscontrued as me not taking what he said seriously. snip No worries, mate! It was meant both seriously and humorously (or neither, or whatever), likle most of the material I generate, and I figure you got that (and That)! :-) Yeah, I did- just like to check in sometimes. Like I said, language can be cumbersome or fraught with assumptions if all the angles aren't explicitly covered, and then who the heck wants to read it?! Anyway I appreciate a lot of your stuff as having real substance, and by that I mean I can turn it over and over in my mind and body for a long time, sometimes for years. And I appreciate that, and That!
[FairfieldLife] Speaking of Buddha....at Target
I just wanted to tip you all off that I found two very cool Buddha oriented things at Target last weekend. One was a seated Buddha, a small one with a faux succulent in its lap, looking like a carved wooden statue. I was stoked about it because I have really wanted to find a Buddha statue for years, but all the ones I've seen don't have the right expression. They haven't looked serene and at peace with themselves. This one does. If you look at them a lot like I do you know what I mean...Anyway, this one was less than $25 and looks great! The other thing I found was this great moss green t-shirt with a seated Buddha on it, with a tree canopy over Him and pagodas along the skyline, and the roots of the tree under him like both are floating in space, and radiating rays around his head, and two crossed swords beneath his feet. I liked it so much that I went back and bought two more for $12.50 each. Anyway, sometimes the coolest things turn up in the oddest places...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of Buddha....at Target
PS They are the first and fourth items on this page: http://tinyurl.com/285f5p --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wanted to tip you all off that I found two very cool Buddha oriented things at Target last weekend. snip
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool doo dee doo doo story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I did- just like to check in sometimes. Like I said, language can be cumbersome or fraught with assumptions if all the angles aren't explicitly covered, and then who the heck wants to read it?! Anyway I appreciate a lot of your stuff as having real substance, and by that I mean I can turn it over and over in my mind and body for a long time, sometimes for years. And I appreciate that, and That! It is very sweet to be appreciated, and naturally makes me wish to give you yet more, to pour yet more ghee-hee-hee as an offering to the flame of your already blazing Heart. Swaha! Take THAT! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Visualizing the E8 root system
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Just my usual too quick on the trigger response. I hear the term super string or anything of that ilk associated with TM and my brain locks-up! I'm sure it can have value for people, such as John Hagelin, who actually understand it and can facilitate deeper understanding of the mechanichs of consciousness, but for us lay folk it is mind numbing. That's its true purpose. :-) the invoking the too quick on the trigger response part or the mind numbing part?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool doo dee doo doo story
--- Rory, be careful about using the word sweet. Various TMO TB have been known to use that expression, in emulation of MMY. I remember when Jerry Jarvis used to burp like MMY. A real insider might burp and say sweet at the same time!; as well as moving the hand up and down in a characteristic MMY mudra. At Humboldt 70 I always sat way in the back, in the bleechers, while the various TB like Keith Wallace would sit in the front row. Charlie Lutes used to dance by a different drummer and said The Mahareeshee, instead of Maharshi as in Ramana Maharshi.. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Yeah, I did- just like to check in sometimes. Like I said, language can be cumbersome or fraught with assumptions if all the angles aren't explicitly covered, and then who the heck wants to read it?! Anyway I appreciate a lot of your stuff as having real substance, and by that I mean I can turn it over and over in my mind and body for a long time, sometimes for years. And I appreciate that, and That! It is very sweet to be appreciated, and naturally makes me wish to give you yet more, to pour yet more ghee-hee-hee as an offering to the flame of your already blazing Heart. Swaha! Take THAT! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: US health system ranks last compared to other countries
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once you get down to what weight they think you should be (within about 10 lbs) if you stay there or under for 6 months they'll drop the surcharge. So why don't you do that? the lower weight is heathier, increases longevity, lowers risk of heart attack, stroke, diabetes, etc. And you pay 1/3 less than you are now. Sounds like a deal.
[FairfieldLife] The brain is hardwired for morality.
at http://www.tinyurl.com/37wxhy
[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of Buddha....at Target
Gee, those sculptures are really pretty nice for inexpensive reproductions. How on earth did Target get on a Buddha kick?? I'd love to know the story behind their purchasing that collection. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS They are the first and fourth items on this page: http://tinyurl.com/285f5p --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: I just wanted to tip you all off that I found two very cool Buddha oriented things at Target last weekend. snip
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool doo dee doo doo story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rory, be careful about using the word sweet. Various TMO TB have been known to use that expression, in emulation of MMY. I remember when Jerry Jarvis used to burp like MMY. A real insider might burp and say sweet at the same time!; as well as moving the hand up and down in a characteristic MMY mudra. At Humboldt 70 I always sat way in the back, in the bleechers, while the various TB like Keith Wallace would sit in the front row. Charlie Lutes used to dance by a different drummer and said The Mahareeshee, instead of Maharshi as in Ramana Maharshi.. *lol* Yes, too bad you can't hear my intonation. It's about as unlike a TB as one can get ... like that, like that :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of Buddha....at Target
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wanted to tip you all off that I found two very cool Buddha oriented things at Target last weekend. One was a seated Buddha, a small one with a faux succulent in its lap, looking like a carved wooden statue. I was stoked about it because I have really wanted to find a Buddha statue for years, but all the ones I've seen don't have the right expression. They haven't looked serene and at peace with themselves. This one does. If you look at them a lot like I do you know what I mean...Anyway, this one was less than $25 and looks great! The other thing I found was this great moss green t-shirt with a seated Buddha on it, with a tree canopy over Him and pagodas along the skyline, and the roots of the tree under him like both are floating in space, and radiating rays around his head, and two crossed swords beneath his feet. I liked it so much that I went back and bought two more for $12.50 each. Anyway, sometimes the coolest things turn up in the oddest places... *** Next time you're in Vegas, check out the shrine to Brahma in front of Caesars Palace, put there so Thai gamblers could appeal for luck: http://tinyurl.com/yunvqd
[FairfieldLife] Re: PBS To The Contrary presents feature on TM and ADHD this weekend
Dick Mays wrote: ...benefits of the Transcendental Meditation program for those with ADHD, by visiting www.adhd-tm.org there are videos on that site, of kids with ADHD before and after TM instruction ... very moving, it will break your heart
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool doo dee doo doo story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Yeah, I did- just like to check in sometimes. Like I said, language can be cumbersome or fraught with assumptions if all the angles aren't explicitly covered, and then who the heck wants to read it?! Anyway I appreciate a lot of your stuff as having real substance, and by that I mean I can turn it over and over in my mind and body for a long time, sometimes for years. And I appreciate that, and That! It is very sweet to be appreciated, and naturally makes me wish to give you yet more, to pour yet more ghee-hee-hee as an offering to the flame of your already blazing Heart. Swaha! Take THAT! :-) Thanks!! Blazing away! When I came across your perspective of Brahman; all the Universe is within us, I found it to be the perfect compliment to a phrase of Maharishi's I had worked with for years, The world is as you are, live unbounded awareness. Anyway, we can't get enough of Brahman, right??
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi Ayurveda Healing Waters
Maharishi Ayurveda Healing Waters -- Ayurveda Digestive Drink http://www.mapi.com/en/newsletters/ayurveda_digestive_drink.html Well water, pond water, rain water -- there are many types of water described in ayurvedic texts, and each has a therapeutic value, just as food does. Water represents soma, the nourishing, cooling quality that is associated with lunar energy. It helps with digestion, cools and balances Pitta dosha, supports Kapha, and counteracts the dryness of Vata. It nurtures, lubricates and also detoxifies when it flows out of the body as urine. Water, when properly absorbed by the body, has several healing qualities: 1. Helps to remove fatigue (Shramnashana) 2. Enhances glow of skin 3. Prevents constipation 4. Increases stamina 5. Provides satisfaction 6. Helps the heart by pacifying Sadhaka Pitta 7. Helps digestion 8. Cooling 9. Always helpful to the body 10. Easy to assimilate 11. Life-giving 12. Antioxidant The Council of Maharishi Ayurveda Physicians explains how the healing effects of water can be enhanced using ayurvedic methods. Water for Cleansing Sometimes people have dry skin and unquenchable thirst even though they drink lots of water. The deeper physiology is not getting enough moisture. This occurs when the person's agni is low and ama blocks the microchannels (shrotas) which carry water to the cells. In order to cleanse the channels and enhance moisture absorption, ayurvedic texts recommend boiling the water for various lengths of time, creating a therapeutic water called ushnodaka. Another method is to add spices or herbs to the water after boiling. Why It Works When the water boils, it gets charged with heat, becoming sharper in quality (sookshma). This sharpness allows it to cleanse the channels and penetrate deeper levels of the physiology. Spices create an added therapeutic effect by interacting with the water on the molecular level. Spices create different effects on the body through aroma and taste. It becomes easier for the body to flush out toxins and impurities because of the sharpness of the agni (heat) in the water and because of the sharpness of the spices. Over time, it cleanses the channels so the water is unobstructed as it travels into the body to hydrate the tissues, and travels out carrying waste. Ancient texts talk about the difference in the rate of absorption of regular water vs. boiled water: 1. regular water -- takes about 6 hours if every channel is clear 2. boiled and cooled water -- takes about 3 hours to be absorbed, and helps open the channels 3. hot herbalized water -- takes about 1 1/2 hours, due to sharpness of agni and herbs and spices Water for Your Body Type An ayurvedic expert can design a therapeutic water recipe to give a specific benefit. One water recipe might enhance immunity, another might cleanse the skin, another might help with prostate imbalance. You can also choose a spice-water recipe for your body type or imbalances. Vata Balancing Water Boil two quarts of water for 5 minutes. Take it off the heat and add 3 leaves mint, 1/2 t. fennel seed, and 1/4 t. marshmallow root. Place the water in a thermos. Sip it throughout the day at a warm but not hot temperature. Pitta Balancing Water Boil two quarts of water for 2 minutes. Take it off the heat and add 1/4 t. fennel seed, 2 rose buds, and 1 clove. Store it hot inside a thermos, but before drinking pour it into a cup and let it cool to room temperature in summer. In winter, it can be slightly warmer. Kapha Balancing Water Boil two quarts of water for 5 minutes. Take it off the heat and add 3 holy basil leaves, two thin slices of fresh ginger, 1/4 t. of cumin, 1/2 t. of fennel. Place the water and spices in a thermos, and sip the water at a hot or warm temperature throughout the day. How much is Enough? How much water you should drink depends on your age, how much physical work or exercise you do, the weather, your diet, your stress levels, your herbal food supplements, and your body type. The warm Pitta types usually are thirstier than the watery Kapha types. Vata types are often constipated or have dry skin and thus need to drink more water. The Council of Maharishi Ayurveda Physicians recommends two quarts of spice-water a day, but every person has to determine their own individual needs. The Council recommends making your spice water first thing in the morning and sipping it every fifteen minutes throughout the day. Drink plain water after 7:00 p.m., as spice-water is too enlivening to drink right before sleeping. If you don't finish the spice-water by then, throw it out and start fresh in the morning. You may want to drink some plain water during the day as well. If you have been exercising and need to drink a full glass of water, it's better to drink plain water rather than the spice water. Water at Meals Ayurvedic texts also recommend sipping plain water at meals, because ayurvedic food already contains
[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of Buddha....at Target
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gee, those sculptures are really pretty nice for inexpensive reproductions. How on earth did Target get on a Buddha kick?? I'd love to know the story behind their purchasing that collection. No idea-- I noticed some Christian oriented stuff, and Taoist inspired as well. Gee you think all this we hear about a spiritual revival in the US is true?!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool doo dee doo doo story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt qntmpkt@ wrote: --- Rory, be careful about using the word sweet. Various TMO TB have been known to use that expression, in emulation of MMY. I remember when Jerry Jarvis used to burp like MMY. A real insider might burp and say sweet at the same time!; as well as moving the hand up and down in a characteristic MMY mudra. At Humboldt 70 I always sat way in the back, in the bleechers, while the various TB like Keith Wallace would sit in the front row. Charlie Lutes used to dance by a different drummer and said The Mahareeshee, instead of Maharshi as in Ramana Maharshi.. *lol* Yes, too bad you can't hear my intonation. It's about as unlike a TB as one can get ... like that, like that :-) Lemme guess Roryhm, I bet it sounds *real*! Damn! What a concept!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of Buddha....at Target
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Next time you're in Vegas, check out the shrine to Brahma in front of Caesars Palace, put there so Thai gamblers could appeal for luck: http://tinyurl.com/yunvqd Ironically that statue looks a lot more respected than the ones I saw in the local largest spiritual book and memorabilia store in Mountain View, just north of here, East-West Books, for those who might know it. Went in and the Buddhas were all down on the carpet. Just felt weird and disrespectful. More of an innocent goof, I'm sure, but funny the irony, eh?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool doo dee doo doo story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Turq: Back in the trashbin you go. Jim: I meant no disrespect to you when I used the terms Buddhist and atheist. snip And the intensity was merely a reflection of my daily circumstance, not directed at you or FFL. Jim. Thanks for taking an interchange like this and standing it down, instead of stepping it up. Hooray! lurk Yeah, I'm done with the latter- it was an experiment I tried and found I didn't like it very much. You are welcome. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of Buddha....at Target
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wanted to tip you all off that I found two very cool Buddha oriented things at Target last weekend. snip Anyway, sometimes the coolest things turn up in the oddest places... Yea, a couple months ago this black chick had the coolest jacket with a buddha figure on it in this city mall where I have a side business. I asked her where she got it, and she said at Kohls, or someplace like that. I don't know what meaning it had for her, but I thought it was awesome. lurk
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool doo dee doo doo story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt qntmpkt@ wrote: --- Rory, be careful about using the word sweet. Various TMO TB have been known to use that expression, in emulation of MMY. I remember when Jerry Jarvis used to burp like MMY. A real insider might burp and say sweet at the same time!; as well as moving the hand up and down in a characteristic MMY mudra. At Humboldt 70 I always sat way in the back, in the bleechers, while the various TB like Keith Wallace would sit in the front row. Charlie Lutes used to dance by a different drummer and said The Mahareeshee, instead of Maharshi as in Ramana Maharshi.. *lol* Yes, too bad you can't hear my intonation. It's about as unlike a TB as one can get ... like that, like that :-) Lemme guess Roryhm, I bet it sounds *real*! Damn! What a concept! Yes, sorry, I was hoping the like that, like that would ironically belie my apparent distancing from the TBs, as truly I have nothing against them and am actually profoundly impressed with their devotion, purity and sattva. They are actually *very* real to me. It used to bother me that they seemed so self-absorbed that they could not see me, but I have found that the more I rest in my own Being and appreciate their innate and exquisite perfection, the more they rest in theirs and see mine, and there is only deeper and deeper love between us. They are my devotees, as I am theirs. Again, no worries, mate! :-) *L*L*L*
