[FairfieldLife] Water Night

[jr_esq]

Put your earphones on and listen to this.  Let us know what you think. 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk3Eyd8UP2c 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk3Eyd8UP2c
 
 

 

[FairfieldLife] RE: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[Duveyoung]

Okay, I'm corrected on the second point. Thanks.
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: MMY's Adwaita

[s3raphita]

Re "Why is it so difficult for you to understand the one, before you go off 
speculating on the three? ":
 Because there has to be duality before a "subject" (you, for example) can 
speculate about an "object". The One has to divide for that to happen; and so 
the One + the subject + the object = three terms. *Everything* depends on that 
Original Trinity.
 

 Let Uncle Aleister explain:
 

 The Chinese, like ourselves, begin with the idea of "Absolute Nothing." They 
"make an effort, and call it the Tao;" but that is exactly what the Tao comes 
to mean, when we examine it.  They see quite well, as we have done above, that 
merely to assert Nothing is not to explain the Universe; and they proceed to do 
so by means of a mathematical equation even simpler than ours, involving as it 
does no operations beyond simple addition and subtraction.  They say "Nothing 
obviously means Nothing; it has no qualities nor quantities."  (The Advaitists 
said the same, and then stultified themselves completely by calling it One!)  
"But," continue the sages of the Middle Kingdom, "it is always possible to 
reduce any expression to Nothing by taking any two equal and opposite terms."  
(Thus n + (-n) = 0.)  "We ought therefore to be able to get any expression that 
we want fromNothing; we merely have to be careful that the terms shall be 
precisely opposite and equal."  (0 = n + (-n).  This then they did, and began 
to diagrammatize the Universe as a pair of opposites, the Yang or active male, 
and the Yin or passive Female, principles. - (Aleister Crowley)

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Holding back

[Richard Williams]

*> Doc, before you leave entirely like so many others before you *
*> I just wanted to acknowledge your Presence here.*
*>*
*Judy and Ann did a good job getting rid of Doc - it took a few years, but
they really worked atit. Maybe he would stick around if they would just
post something that was interesting to read instead of all the petty
ankle-biting. It looks like they bored him with all their snark. Who is
next to be driven off? Go figure.*


On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:50 PM,  wrote:

>
>
> *Doc, before you leave entirely like so many others before you I just
> wanted to acknowledge your Presence here. I have always appreciated your
> illumined conversation here very much and I will miss you very much in the
> mix up here. I've never even really cared what they said about you much
> because of the way you carry your enlightenment. While this place could
> certainly be so much more spiritually, the place is really not what it set
> out to be now and I appreciate your decision to vacate it. I notice you are
> very present over on Batgap.com and I will eventually follow you there. I
> will miss you here in the meantime. Have you found any other spiritual
> planets like the original FairfieldLife had set out to be on the internet?
> It is a shame Rick and the FFL moderators let it slide so bad the way it
> has. It does not seem that even the Yahoo-guidelines against unkindness as
> a form of absentee landlord can not even salvage the place. I do feel it
> was just bad upbringing on the part of some few entering the saloon who
> wrecked the place so bad. Bon Voyage. Send postcards when you can. I knew
> you back in Missouri days and liked you even then, *
>
> *-Buck back in the Dome*
>
>  
>

[FairfieldLife] Ever had blue balls?

[s3raphita]

The HOMEGROUP Icon suddenly appeared on my desktop (a large green ball 
surrounded by three smaller blue balls). Why did that suddenly show up? I've 
never seen it before. I see I can't move it to the Recycle Bin either.  
Microsoft can be so creepy. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: MMY's Adwaita

[Richard J. Williams]

On 1/2/2014 9:15 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 > Sure enough - this is beyond your understanding. However, you
 > shouldn't interrupt our conversation because it is exceeds you.
 >
What would it take to keep you on topic? There's no "trinity" theology 
in Advaita.

 > Not everything here on FFL is about you.
 >
Why is it so difficult for you to understand the one, before you go off 
speculating on the three? Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[Richard J. Williams]

On 1/2/2014 5:35 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

 > Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual
 > resurrection, as you know.
 >
Mary Magdalene saw the Resurrection - she saw Jesus ascend to the 
Father. She saw it, according to the Bible.

"Mary sees two angels and then Jesus, whom she does not recognize. Jesus 
tells her to tell the disciples that he is ascending to the Father, and 
Mary tells the disciples she has seen the Lord."

Resurrection of Jesus:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection_of_Jesus

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[Richard Williams]

> But did Mary watch the dead body of Jesus for three
> days solid and then become enlivened before her living
> eyes? Nope. Did she see the stone from the door being
> removed? Nope.
>
According to the Bible, Jesus' body was raised from the dead but his soul
did not get raised until he was outside the tomb. So, Mary goes to the tomb
and she sees that it is empty, but only later does she see Jesus ascending
to the Father - she sees the Resurrection.

But, I'll have to concede this one point- you seem to know more than any
pastor, theologian, or historian - in fact you probably know more about the
Resurrection of Jesus Christ than anyone on the entire planet! Go figure.

[image: Inline image 1]

Rafael - ressureicaocristo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rafael_-_ressureicaocristo01.jpg

"Mary sees two angels and then Jesus, whom she does not recognize. Jesus
tells her to tell the disciples that he is ascending to the Father, and
Mary tells the disciples she has seen the Lord."

Resurrection of Jesus:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection_of_Jesus


On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Duveyoung  wrote:

>
>
> But did Mary watch the dead body of Jesus for three days solid and
> then become enlivened before her living eyes? Nope. Did she see the stone
> from the door being removed? Nope.
>
> Stinks of a magic trick, eh?
>
>  
>

[FairfieldLife] RE: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[s3raphita]

Re "But did Mary watch the dead body of Jesus for three days solid and then 
become enlivened before her living eyes? Nope. Did she see the stone from the 
door being removed? Nope.":
 

 YES!
 

 Matthew 28:1-6  (NIV) 
 After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and 
the other Mary went to look at the tomb.  There was a violent earthquake, for 
an angel of the Lord came down from heaven and, going to the tomb, rolled back 
the stone and sat on it. His appearance was like lightning, and his clothes 
were white as snow. The guards were so afraid of him that they shook and became 
like dead men. The angel said to the women, “Do not be afraid, for I know that 
you are looking for Jesus, who was crucified. He is not here; he has risen, 
just as he said. Come and see the place where he lay."

[FairfieldLife] RE: MMY's Adwaita

[emptybill]

Sure enough - this is beyond your understanding. However, you shouldn't 
interrupt our conversation because it is exceeds you.

Not everything here on FFL is about you. 

[FairfieldLife] RE: Holding back

[awoelflebater]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 The prequel: 
"Look, I make poo-poo!"
 

 But did you notice Bawwy reads your posts? I can't imagine why, you are no 
more a fan of him than Judy or I am. Or maybe he's just telling little fibs 
about that. Personally, I believe he has a huge crush on me, secretly wishes he 
could be as meticulous as Judy, could write just as brilliantly as bOb and 
appear as happy and self-sufficient as you seem to be. 
 

[FairfieldLife] RE: Holding back

[dhamiltony2k5]

Doc, before you leave entirely like so many others before you I just wanted to 
acknowledge your Presence here. I have always appreciated your illumined 
conversation here very much and I will miss you very much in the mix up here. 
I've never even really cared what they said about you much because of the way 
you carry your enlightenment. While this place could certainly be so much more 
spiritually, the place is really not what it set out to be now and I appreciate 
your decision to vacate it. I notice you are very present over on Batgap.com 
and I will eventually follow you there. I will miss you here in the meantime. 
Have you found any other spiritual planets like the original FairfieldLife had 
set out to be on the internet? It is a shame Rick and the FFL moderators let it 
slide so bad the way it has. It does not seem that even the Yahoo-guidelines 
against unkindness as a form of absentee landlord can not even salvage the 
place. I do feel it was just bad upbringing on the part of some few entering 
the saloon who wrecked the place so bad. Bon Voyage. Send postcards when you 
can. I knew you back in Missouri days and liked you even then, 
 
 -Buck back in the Dome

[FairfieldLife] RE: Some humble suggestions for the coming FFL New Year

[dhamiltony2k5]

The first thing Maharishiji said back when he first set out the times for our 
meditation that we all took home as instruction was to “meditate for as long as 
you can”. I was there and heard it directly when he said this as the first 
guideline. Then some people locked in samsara complained. However, it should be 
certainly better at least and much more unified in field effect if people 
should get to bed early in the first place, get up in time enough that they 
were actually awake and in their places to meditate at 7:30am. The Dome doors 
open at 7am. Then Be, sitting up and actually meditating together by 7:30am. 
It's shown in the science and so evident in the experience when we meditate 
together. And by corollary it is such a waste of everyone's time and coherence 
creating potential having these ill-disciplined people coming in late to the 
meditation or sleeping in meditation. I would hope that people could honor the 
virtue of loyalty to meditation and the Domes by making a point to get to the 
Dome meditation on time. 
 
 -Buck in the Dome   
 


 Yes, it [the low Dome group meditation numbers] is a pitiable pitiful state of 
being. The communal meditation numbers are sadly low. I feel and hold in 
complete contempt those who could be in the Dome meditating with the group who 
are not. They are nothing better than anti-science anti-spiritual 
anti-meditators. They clearly do not get it. Such ignorance is entirely 
contemptible and without virtue.
 
 -Buck, a conservative meditator   
 

 wrote:

 Whoa..am I reading this correctly? Only 200 in the Men's dome?

With numbers that low -- is the Fairfield campus a zombie of its former self?
 

 Friends; The Dome doors open at 7am for meditation. Everyday. Happy New Year!  
Today!  Come join with us for group meditations and let there be peace in the 
world in this New Year. Change evidently begins within and can begin within you 
by the mediating affect of the Meissner Effect of consciousness coherence peace 
radiating from deep transcendental meditation within outward. Come join in with 
meditation groups near you to help mediate for peace in the world this year.  
It is the opportunity of a lifetime,
 -Buck in the Dome  
 


 Yes indeed, let us be humble now at year's end with the New Year beginning. 
Taking stock now at year's end our community Dome meditation numbers are 
frightfully low.
 Men's Dome meditation numbers are more frequently even below 200. That is
 even lower than whence the Assembly started back in 2006 of the real nadir
 days with TM in the West. This low meditation number now does not bode well. 
With the collapse and failure of the Assembly around the Settle grant we need 
now more than ever before better leadership in this new year.
 The old adage, “you can't lead from behind”; Our leadership needs to come to 
the Domes too where they might even get seen in battle.
 All meditators, rich as well as poor, praise the Unified Field and come to 
meditation for world peace in the New Year,
 -Buck  
 




 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield's Golden Millenarian Domes, the New Millenarian Domes

[dhamiltony2k5]

Millenarianism (also millenarism) is the belief by a religious, social, or 
political group or movement in a coming major transformation of society, after 
which all things will be changed. Millennialism 
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennialism is a specific form of 
millenarianism based on a one-thousand-year cycle, which many sects of 
different religions believe. 
 -A Chaney, Princeton.edu

 

 
 Revolutionary as an adjective,  the term revolutionary refers to something 
that has a major, sudden impact on society or on some aspect of human endeavor. 
-Dictionary.com
 

 Maharishi's Master Plan to Create Heaven on Earth
 Maharishi Vedic University Press, Holland, 1991 pp372
 
 
 A wonderfully feisty book:
 
 
 First Page, “Reconstruction of the Whole World”, presenting as a flow chart 
divided first as “Inner” and “Outer”. Glorification of Inner Life on the one 
hand through Maharisihi's Transcendental Meditation and TM-Siddhi Programme the 
practical aspects of Maharsihi's vedic science “awakening of the pure nature of 
consciousness to its own self-referral reality -the unified reality of the 
diversified universe- which renders individual life to be a lively field of all 
possibilities -infinite organizing power of the Unified Field of Natural Law 
spontaneously upholding individual life and then the Glorification of Outer 
Life detailed on the other hand; concluding at the bottom of the first page, 
“As a result, every nation will lovingly own every other nation, and all 
nations together will nourish every nation -everyone and every nation in the 
world will enjoy Heaven on Earth”.
 


 The time is coming, by the prophets foretold,
 When The Unified Field in purity, the world shall behold.
 When pure testimony will gain the day;
 Denominations, selfishness will vanish away. 
 >
 > Let all who would wish to see the Millenium begin,
 > Come to meditation and be separate from sinners and sin. 
 > As soon as the churches are redeemed from sin, 
 > The day of the Millenium will surely begin.
 > 
 > 
 > >
 > > 
 > > 
 > > 
 > > > 
 > > > > 
 > > > > 
 > > > > >
 > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > >
 > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > >
 > > > > > > > > Millenarianism. Well then, more accurately ours would be the 
 > > > > > > > > 'Fairfield Golden New Millenarianism Domes'.
 > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > Millenarianism "..is the belief by a religious, social, or 
 > > > > > > > > political group or movement in a coming major transformation 
 > > > > > > > > of society, after which all things will be changed,.." 
 > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millenarianism 
 > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millenarianism
 > > > > > > > >
 > > > > > >
 > > 
 > > Definition of MILLENNIALISM:
 > > millenarianism. 
 > > > Definition of MILLENARIANISM:
 > > > Belief in a coming ideal society and especially one created by 
 > > > revolutionary action.
 > > > > Definition of MILLENNIALIST
 > > > > : millenarian 
 > > > > > > Definition of MILLENNIUM
 > > > > > >  : a period of great happiness or human perfection.
 > > > > > Definition of MILLENARIAN
 > > > > > : one that believes in a millennium 
 > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > Hence, the Golden New Millenarian Domes.
 > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes 
 > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes
 > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 > > > > > > > > mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
 > > > > > > > > >
 > > > > > > > > > Fairfield's Golden Domes superseding the old one:
 > > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Dome 
 > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Dome
 > > > > > > > > >
 > > > > > > > >
 > > > > > > >
 > > > > > >
 > > > > >
 > > > >
 > > >
 > >
 > O

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon's death!

[Bhairitu]

Doesn't matter because it is a true observation.

On 01/02/2014 05:29 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
That was tongue in cheek dude! Just quoting one of your heroes.Was 
that Marx, Lenin or Mao?


*From:* Bhairitu 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, January 2, 2014 2:39 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon's death!
Now you're getting it!On 01/02/2014 02:02 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:

Yeah, we all know that religion is the *opiate* of the people.

*From:* Bhairitu mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 


*Sent:* Thursday, January 2, 2014 1:29 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon's death!
You do realize the concept of a "messiah" is about a useful as the 
Easter Bunny.  It's a myth used for mind control over ignorant 
members of the masses.  There are NO supermen or superwomen. On 
01/02/2014 01:08 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com  wrote:

Buck,

It's not likely that the messiah will appear after Sharon dies.  But 
it would not matter to the Israelis.  They will continue to wait for 
the messiah until there are no more Jews left.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon's death!

[Mike Dixon]

That was tongue in cheek dude! Just quoting one of your heroes. Was that Marx, 
Lenin or Mao?


From: Bhairitu 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon's death!

  
Now you're getting it!On 01/02/2014 02:02 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
  
>Yeah, we all know that religion is the *opiate* of the people.
>
>
>
>From: Bhairitu mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 1:29 PM
>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon's death!
>
>  
>You do realize the concept of a "messiah" is about a useful as the Easter 
>Bunny.  It's a myth used for mind control over ignorant members of the masses. 
> There are NO supermen or superwomen. On 01/02/2014 01:08 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com 
>wrote:
>  
>>Buck,
>>
>>
>>It's not likely that the messiah will appear after Sharon dies.  But it would 
>>not matter to the Israelis.  They will continue to wait for the messiah until 
>>there are no more Jews left.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[Mike Dixon]

Jesus could have been using a very powerful flashlight to get his attention. 
Kind of like a cop dose at night. Hey you! Freeze!


From: Richard J. Williams 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

  
On 1/2/2014 3:47 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:

> He didn't actually see Jesus but a brilliant light that blinded him 
for days.
>
Jesus Christ appeared to be a brilliant light up in the sky - Paul saw 
it and he spoke to the Christ. Where else do you think light comes from, 
if not up in the sky? From a fire fly?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holding back

[doctordumbass]

The prequel: 
"Look, I make poo-poo!"

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[Duveyoung]

But did Mary watch the dead body of Jesus for three days solid and then become 
enlivened before her living eyes? Nope. Did she see the stone from the door 
being removed? Nope.

Stinks of a magic trick, eh?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[authfriend]

Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you know. 
 > Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you 
 > know.
 

 Mary Magdalene saw the actual resurrection. It says so in the Bible. 
 Mary saw Jesus dead and she saw Jesus come back to life. She was the 
 first to see the resurrection. In the Bible.
 
 "Resurrection is the concept of a living being coming back to life after
 death."
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[Richard J. Williams]

On 1/2/2014 3:47 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:

 > He didn't actually see Jesus but a brilliant light that blinded him 
for days.
 >
Jesus Christ appeared to be a brilliant light up in the sky - Paul saw 
it and he spoke to the Christ. Where else do you think light comes from, 
if not up in the sky? From a fire fly?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[Richard J. Williams]

On 1/2/2014 3:46 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

 > Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as 
you know.
 >
Mary Magdalene saw the actual resurrection. It says so in the Bible. 
Mary saw Jesus dead and she saw Jesus come back to life. She was the 
first to see the resurrection. In the Bible.

"Resurrection is the concept of a living being coming back to life after
death."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection

[FairfieldLife] Greatest Artists of Punk Rock

[Richard Williams]

The Sex Pistols

[image: Inline image 1]

God Save the Queen (Studio)
http://youtu.be/8z2M_hpoPwk

Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols
http://youtu.be/kbaF8F-DasM

We saw this band in 1978 when they performed in San Antonio. During the
concert Sid Vicious called the crowd "a bunch of faggots", before striking
an audience member across the head with his bass guitar. Nice! For this the
audience pelted the band with beer cans and beer bottles and called Sid a
bloody "limey" and yelled "go home". Go figure.

[image: Inline image 2]

"The Sex Pistols were an English punk rock band that formed in London in
1975. They were responsible for initiating the punk movement in the United
Kingdom and inspiring many later punk and alternative rock musicians.
Although their original career lasted just two-and-a-half years and
produced only four singles and one studio album,

Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols, they are regarded as one
of the most influential acts in the history of popular music. Their 1977
single "God Save the Queen," attacking social conformity and deference to
the Crown, precipitated the "last and greatest outbreak of pop-based moral
pandemonium. Rolling Stone Magazine ranked the Sex Pistols No. 58 on its
list of the "100 Greatest Artists of All Time."

Read more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_Pistols

'Please Kill Me: The Uncensored Oral History of Punk'
by Legs McNeil and Gillian McCain
Grove Press, 2013

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon's death!

[Bhairitu]

Now you're getting it!

On 01/02/2014 02:02 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:

Yeah, we all know that religion is the *opiate* of the people.

*From:* Bhairitu 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, January 2, 2014 1:29 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon's death!
You do realize the concept of a "messiah" is about a useful as the 
Easter Bunny. It's a myth used for mind control over ignorant members 
of the masses.  There are NO supermen or superwomen.On 01/02/2014 
01:08 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com  wrote:

Buck,

It's not likely that the messiah will appear after Sharon dies.  But 
it would not matter to the Israelis.  They will continue to wait for 
the messiah until there are no more Jews left.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon's death!

[Bhairitu]

That's their problem.  We can reject such silly beliefs.  There is no 
such thing as a "magic land" either.


On 01/02/2014 01:57 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:


Bhairitu,


For the Hassidic and conservative Jews, the messiah is a very specific 
expectation that they believe is written in the Torah.  For example, 
they expect their messiah to be a political leader who would restore 
the glory of the kingdom of David and Solomon.  For this reason, the 
Jews today and yesteryear reject the teachings of Jesus.



IMO, this same expectation is causing the political unrest in the 
Middle East today.  Specifically, the Israelis have created an 
apartheid government in Palestine against the people who rightfully 
own the land that the Israelis are occupying.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Holding back

[bobpriced]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Thanks Bob, 
 

 I enjoyed your comments.  And yes, I can't seem to make a post without some 
major typographical or spelling error. Sounds like a possible New Year's 
Resolution. (-:
 

 I like that image of the old boomers, standing in the corner etc., although I 
don't think I agree with it.  
 

 Grudging respect for Judy?  Sure. I like Judy and her smugness to some extent. 
 Ok, I'm not sure how well it work in a long term relationship, but hell, only 
a few of us seemed paired up anyway. (-:
 

 Back to the coal mines?  I'm feeling a little giddy right now.  Almost got 
through my first day back.  No major problems. Some decent business, and the 
hockey game tonight.
 

 Not bad.  
 

 Even found a day's work for my 20 yr. old son who's going back to Colo tonight 
with a College group of friends.  Yes, Colorado that is, after the first of the 
year.  Oh God!
 

 Thanks Steve,
  
 In reference to my return to the coal mines, the year has started off nicely. 
  
 Someone told me the year of the horse will be a good for Hermes*; that being 
the case, I figure, among others, it will be good for you, Ann, and me.
  
 * "He is protector and patron of travelers, herdsmen, thieves, orators and 
wit, literature and poets, athletics and sports, invention and trade!"
 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermes 

 

 
 All the best.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon's death!

[Mike Dixon]

Yeah, we all know that religion is the *opiate* of the people.


From: Bhairitu 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon's death!

  
You do realize the concept of a "messiah" is about a useful as the Easter 
Bunny.  It's a myth used for mind control over ignorant members of the masses.  
There are NO supermen or superwomen.On 01/02/2014 01:08 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
  
>Buck,
>
>
>It's not likely that the messiah will appear after Sharon dies.  But it would 
>not matter to the Israelis.  They will continue to wait for the messiah until 
>there are no more Jews left.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon's death!

[Mike Dixon]

Oh Geee! I guess there are a lot of people putting out stuff on the coming four 
blood moons. I'm not trying to say it will have anything to do with the 
rapture. But it could have something to do with the end times. It seems too 
much of a coincidence for these four lunar eclipses to happen on very specific  
Jewish feasts. I heard John Hagee speak on them  and it sounded very 
interesting.


From: "jr_...@yahoo.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 1:24 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon's death!

  
Mike,

In spite of the four blood moons being seen by self-proclaimed prophets, I 
don't think the Rapture is going to come any time soon, as interpreted by this 
guy:

http://www.endtime.com/blog/the-coming-four-blood-moons/

[FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon's death!

[cardemaister]

But "errare humanum est", ain't it? Please keep mind that the great Albert 
Einstein didn't
believe in HUP and stuff like quantum entanglement which is as counterintuitive 
as it gets?!

[FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon's death!

[jr_esq]

Bhairitu,
 

 For the Hassidic and conservative Jews, the messiah is a very specific 
expectation that they believe is written in the Torah.  For example, they 
expect their messiah to be a political leader who would restore the glory of 
the kingdom of David and Solomon.  For this reason, the Jews today and 
yesteryear reject the teachings of Jesus.
 

 IMO, this same expectation is causing the political unrest in the Middle East 
today.  Specifically, the Israelis have created an apartheid government in 
Palestine against the people who rightfully own the land that the Israelis are 
occupying.

[FairfieldLife] RE: My fondest wish for FFL for 2014

[bobpriced]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 It's pretty simple, actually. Unrealistic, given the egos involved, but 
simple. 

I just wish that a few people who *pretend* that they're writing directly to me 
-- or to one of the other posters who have made it clear that they never bother 
to read anything these people write -- would stop doing so. 

Be *honest*, for once. I'm talking to you (directly :-), Judy, Ann, and Bob. 

I haven't read anything in *any* of your posts other than the few words that I 
can't avoid seeing when scanning the newsgroup in Message View mode in weeks. I 
will *never* read -- or respond to -- any full post that you write here. Ever. 

Get over it. Learn to live with the fact that you've been *written off*, almost 
as if you were simply not worth my time, and have no possibility of *ever* 
being worth my time in the future. 

Either that, or continue to *pretend* to be writing directly to me, even though 
*everyone* here knows that you're really "writing to the crowd," hoping to 
influence *them*. 

What you're doing is silly, it's juvenile, and it makes *you* look like 
out-of-control egos trolling desperately for some kind of response. You're not 
going to get one from those of us who've written you off, so why not write *to* 
the people you still hope to get one from, eh?

Those of us the three of you stalk know -- as does everyone else here -- that 
you read *every* word of *every* post we write. Your NPD causes you to think 
that other people feel the same way about the things you write. T'ain't true. 
That is YOUR failing, YOUR psychosis, and YOUR samskara, not ours. We've 
written you off. If you were half as smart as you like to pose as being, you'd 
have figured that out by now. 
 

 Barry, you old bag lady, of course you don't read our posts - stop getting so 
hysterical; now, when are you going to start that new thread I suggested:
 

 Traveling with the voice in my head, why every thought I have is an idea.
 

 
 

[FairfieldLife] RE: My fondest wish for FFL for 2014

[awoelflebater]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 It really infuriates Barry when we address him directly. I wonder how he knows 
we do that, given that he claims never to read our posts. And why does he even 
care when he considers us not worth his time? (Speaking of ego...)
 

 Of course we're writing to the crowd. Everybody knows that. Barry's problem is 
that he's afraid, in the absence of a response from him, that we might well 
influence them. But of course he does respond to us, just not directly. 
Everybody knows that too. ;-)
 

 (For the record, I never read Richard's posts unless they're aimed at me or 
have to do with a thread I'm involved in.)
 

 It's pretty simple, actually. Unrealistic, given the egos involved, but 
simple. 

I just wish that a few people who *pretend* that they're writing directly to me 
-- or to one of the other posters who have made it clear that they never bother 
to read anything these people write -- would stop doing so. 

Be *honest*, for once. I'm talking to you (directly :-), Judy, Ann, and Bob. 

I haven't read anything in *any* of your posts other than the few words that I 
can't avoid seeing when scanning the newsgroup in Message View mode in weeks. I 
will *never* read -- or respond to -- any full post that you write here. Ever. 

Get over it. Learn to live with the fact that you've been *written off*, almost 
as if you were simply not worth my time, and have no possibility of *ever* 
being worth my time in the future. 

Either that, or continue to *pretend* to be writing directly to me, even though 
*everyone* here knows that you're really "writing to the crowd," hoping to 
influence *them*. 

What you're doing is silly, it's juvenile, and it makes *you* look like 
out-of-control egos trolling desperately for some kind of response. You're not 
going to get one from those of us who've written you off, so why not write *to* 
the people you still hope to get one from, eh?

Those of us the three of you stalk know -- as does everyone else here -- that 
you read *every* word of *every* post we write. Your NPD causes you to think 
that other people feel the same way about the things you write. T'ain't true. 
That is YOUR failing, YOUR psychosis, and YOUR samskara, not ours. We've 
written you off. If you were half as smart as you like to pose as being, you'd 
have figured that out by now. 

That does it. I am now going to commit suicide by drowning myself in a 
combination of popcorn and the stuff you put over apples to make them all 
caramelly and gooey.

 





 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[Mike Dixon]

I tend to have more sweat under my feet... but then I am a water sign.


From: Richard Williams 
To: Richard J. Williams  
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

  
> Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small  
> space of air beneath his feat*? 
>
Have you ever tried to walk around in the hot desert in your bare feet? A 
little cushion could go a long way. But there is always a small amount of air 
under anyone's feet, although it may be a tiny layer of air. There is air in 
everything. But, in fact Christ kept a small layer of air under his feet as a 
springboard, so he take off without having to hop on a mattress of foam. It's 
obvious.You're not even making any sense, Mike.

> Would it not be possible for Him to walk, not appear to walk but 
> actually make contact with the earth? I would think that if you can 
> create the world, including being able to raise yourself from death, 
> you could at least walk with your feet on the ground.
>
Now why on earth would the Christ want to bow and scrape on the ground? Are you 
thinking that when the Christ wants to take off and fly, that he would run and 
skip with his feet on the ground and flap his arms like an albatross? Go figure.
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Mike Dixon  wrote: 
  
>Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small space of air 
>beneath his feat*? Would it not be possible for Him to walk, not appear to 
>walk but actually make contact with the earth? I would think that if you can 
>create the world, including being able to raise yourself from death, you could 
>at least walk with your feet on the ground.
>
>
>
>From: Richard J. Williams To: 
>FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 6:14 AM 
>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
>  
>On 1/1/2014 5:44 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:> One account of some of the first 
>people to see Christ after> resurrection said that they were walking towards 
>Galilee and> someone joined them on their walk and it turned out to be> Jesus. 
>So, I guess He did do some walking.>Sure, the Christ could appear to be 
>walking if he wanted to. According to early Gnostic writings, Jesus could 
>appear to be doing lots of things. The key word here is "appeared" to be 
>walking. Every Gnostic knows that Jesus' body was an apparition body. So, it 
>might have appeared that Jesus was walking, even moon-walking, but there must 
>have been a small space of air beneath his feet. This small space of air under 
>his feet is like a foam mattress in the Yogic Flying program - it's like a 
>spring board for launching.Were you thinking that Jesus had to grunt, and bow 
>and scrape to get off the ground?> I guess she was on his level, the ground, 
>not in the air> because she was instructed not to cling
 to him. unless of> course she was hovering as well when she first saw Him.>Of 
course Jesus was on Mary's level - would you hover ABOVE your girlfriend when 
you flew in to see her? Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Holding back

[steve.sundur]

Thanks Bob, 
 

 I enjoyed your comments.  And yes, I can't seem to make a post without some 
major typographical or spelling error. Sounds like a possible New Year's 
Resolution. (-:
 

 I like that image of the old boomers, standing in the corner etc., although I 
don't think I agree with it.  
 

 Grudging respect for Judy?  Sure. I like Judy and her smugness to some extent. 
 Ok, I'm not sure how well it work in a long term relationship, but hell, only 
a few of us seemed paired up anyway. (-:
 

 Back to the coal mines?  I'm feeling a little giddy right now.  Almost got 
through my first day back.  No major problems. Some decent business, and the 
hockey game tonight.
 

 Not bad.  
 

 Even found a day's work for my 20 yr. old son who's going back to Colo tonight 
with a College group of friends.  Yes, Colorado that is, after the first of the 
year.  Oh God!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[Mike Dixon]

ROFLMAO!


From: Richard Williams 
To: Richard J. Williams  
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

  
> Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small  
> space of air beneath his feat*? 
>
Have you ever tried to walk around in the hot desert in your bare feet? A 
little cushion could go a long way. But there is always a small amount of air 
under anyone's feet, although it may be a tiny layer of air. There is air in 
everything. But, in fact Christ kept a small layer of air under his feet as a 
springboard, so he take off without having to hop on a mattress of foam. It's 
obvious.You're not even making any sense, Mike.

> Would it not be possible for Him to walk, not appear to walk but 
> actually make contact with the earth? I would think that if you can 
> create the world, including being able to raise yourself from death, 
> you could at least walk with your feet on the ground.
>
Now why on earth would the Christ want to bow and scrape on the ground? Are you 
thinking that when the Christ wants to take off and fly, that he would run and 
skip with his feet on the ground and flap his arms like an albatross? Go figure.
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Mike Dixon  wrote: 
  
>Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small space of air 
>beneath his feat*? Would it not be possible for Him to walk, not appear to 
>walk but actually make contact with the earth? I would think that if you can 
>create the world, including being able to raise yourself from death, you could 
>at least walk with your feet on the ground.
>
>
>
>From: Richard J. Williams To: 
>FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 6:14 AM 
>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
>  
>On 1/1/2014 5:44 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:> One account of some of the first 
>people to see Christ after> resurrection said that they were walking towards 
>Galilee and> someone joined them on their walk and it turned out to be> Jesus. 
>So, I guess He did do some walking.>Sure, the Christ could appear to be 
>walking if he wanted to. According to early Gnostic writings, Jesus could 
>appear to be doing lots of things. The key word here is "appeared" to be 
>walking. Every Gnostic knows that Jesus' body was an apparition body. So, it 
>might have appeared that Jesus was walking, even moon-walking, but there must 
>have been a small space of air beneath his feet. This small space of air under 
>his feet is like a foam mattress in the Yogic Flying program - it's like a 
>spring board for launching.Were you thinking that Jesus had to grunt, and bow 
>and scrape to get off the ground?> I guess she was on his level, the ground, 
>not in the air> because she was instructed not to cling
 to him. unless of> course she was hovering as well when she first saw Him.>Of 
course Jesus was on Mary's level - would you hover ABOVE your girlfriend when 
you flew in to see her? Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[Mike Dixon]

My Corinthians doesn't say anything about Jesus appearing to the five hundred 
in the air, just that five hundred followers saw him at once (New Living 
Translation).  But that shouldn't be too difficult since he spoke to five 
thousand on the side of a mountain when he fed them all with two fish and five 
loaves of bread at the sermon on the mount.< As for Saul's conversion.Acts9:3 
tells us that while on the road to Damascus a brilliant light from heaven 
suddenly beamed down on him blinding him and Saul heard a voice asking "why are 
you persecuting me?" Saul asked "who are you sir?"  The voice replied "I am 
Jesus..." Saul later became known as Paul. He didn't actually see Jesus but a 
brilliant light that blinded him for days.

From: Richard Williams 
To: Richard J. Williams  
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

  
> Paul doesn't say anything about Christ "hovering up in the 
> air" above the 500 eyewitnesses, as you know. He just says 
> Christ appeared to them.
>
Where do you think the 500 people saw the risen Lord - under ground? Of course 
the risen Christ was up in the sky - how else do you think 500 people would 
have been able seen him all at one time? You're not even making any sense. 
Apparently you haven't received the Good News, or even Something Good is 
Happening. Go figure.

According to Paul, after the resurrection the risen Christ was seen above five 
hundred brethren all at once, floating in the sky. Paul himself on the road to 
Damascus saw the risen Lord up in the sky - in the clouds above.



La conversion de Saint Paul
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:La_conversion_de_Saint_Paul_Giordano_Nancy_3018.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_Paul_the_Apostle

"After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the 
greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. After that, 
he was seen of James; then of all the apostles." (Corinthians 1:6 - King James 
Version). 

"Then after three years, I went up to Jerusalem to get acquainted with Cephas 
and stayed with him fifteen days. I saw none of the other apostles—only James, 
the Lord's brother. I assure you before God that what I am writing you is no 
lie." - (Galatians 1:18-20 - King James Version). 

"This account meets all the demands of historical reliability that could 
possibly be made of such a text," whilst A. M. Hunter said, "The passage 
therefore preserves uniquely early and verifiable testimony. It meets every 
reasonable demand of historical reliability."

1 Corinthians 15:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_Corinthians_15
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:32 AM,  wrote: 
  
>> Next time you're talking about what the Bible says, Richard,
>>> when you add something you made up out of your own head that
>>> isn't in the Bible at all, it would be good if you'd say so.
>>>
>><< Let's get this on record, Ms Stein -it was YOU that cited the Bible in 
>>defense of your outrageous and false claims about the Resurrection and the 
>>Ascension. >>
>
>
>Which "outrageous and false claims" were these? Please be specific.
>
>
><< You need to get your ducks in a row. And maybe take a Sunday Bible Class at 
>a church somewhere. Did you ever consider taking a history course at a 
>community college? Apparently you don't even have a pastor! Go figure. 
>>>Actually, as you know, it's not necessary to take Bible classes or history 
>courses or to have a pastor to know what's in the Bible. 
><< According to Paul, the Christ hovered up in the air above 500 
>eye-witnesses. Haven't you even read Pauls letter to the Corinthians? >>
>
>
>Paul doesn't say anything about Christ "hovering up in the air" above the 500 
>eyewitnesses, as you know. He just says Christ appeared to them.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[authfriend]

 Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you know.
 > Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you 
 > know.
 
You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene saw the actual resurrection. She saw 
 Jesus die and then she saw him rise from the dead. She was the first one 
 to see the resurrection. She was there, she saw it, she was the one 
 chosen by Jesus to witness the resurrection. Mary. The first one. I know 
 she saw it - she said so in the Bible.
 
 "As Mary Magdalene and "the other Mary" were running from the empty tomb 
 to inform the disciples that he is alive, Jesus tells the women to 
 instruct the disciples to go to Galilee ahead of him to greet him" 
 (Matthew 28:10).
 
 "Resurrection is the concept of a living being coming back to life after 
 death."
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection

[FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon's death!

[awoelflebater]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
 >
> You do realize the concept of a "messiah" is about a useful as the 
> Easter Bunny. It's a myth used for mind control over ignorant members 
> of the masses. There are NO supermen or superwomen.

 Exactly. How could anyone still be so ignorant as to believe otherwise?

Wha...?? Then who is this resurrected and risen??



 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[Richard J. Williams]

On 1/2/2014 3:16 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

 > Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as 
you know.
 >
You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene saw the actual resurrection. She saw 
Jesus die and then she saw him rise from the dead. She was the first one 
to see the resurrection. She was there, she saw it, she was the one 
chosen by Jesus to witness the resurrection. Mary. The first one. I know 
she saw it - she said so in the Bible.

"As Mary Magdalene and "the other Mary" were running from the empty tomb 
to inform the disciples that he is alive, Jesus tells the women to 
instruct the disciples to go to Galilee ahead of him to greet him" 
(Matthew 28:10).

"Resurrection is the concept of a living being coming back to life after 
death."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection

[FairfieldLife] Re: Messiah and Sharon's death!

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> You do realize the concept of a "messiah" is about a useful as the
> Easter Bunny.  It's a myth used for mind control over ignorant members
> of the masses.  There are NO supermen or superwomen.

Exactly. How could anyone still be so ignorant as to believe otherwise?

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon's death!

[Bhairitu]

You do realize the concept of a "messiah" is about a useful as the 
Easter Bunny.  It's a myth used for mind control over ignorant members 
of the masses.  There are NO supermen or superwomen.


On 01/02/2014 01:08 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:


Buck,


It's not likely that the messiah will appear after Sharon dies.  But 
it would not matter to the Israelis.  They will continue to wait for 
the messiah until there are no more Jews left.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[Richard J. Williams]

On 1/2/2014 3:13 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

 > Ordinary human beings speak to 500 or many more people
 > all the time without being up in the sky.
 >
So, you're thinking that Jesus appeared to the 500 behind a podium, 
bowing and scrapping like an ordinary human being? In that case, why do 
you have so many Bibles around your house? Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon's death!

[jr_esq]

Mike,
 

 In spite of the four blood moons being seen by self-proclaimed prophets, I 
don't think the Rapture is going to come any time soon, as interpreted by this 
guy:
 

 http://www.endtime.com/blog/the-coming-four-blood-moons/ 
http://www.endtime.com/blog/the-coming-four-blood-moons/

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[Richard J. Williams]

On 1/2/2014 3:00 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

 > Paul doesn't say anything about the risen Christ "floating
 > in the sky" when he appeared to the 500 brethren.
 >
So, where do you think the Christ appeared to the 500, under a rock? In 
order for 500 people to see Christ all at the same time, he would have 
to be up in the air. You are not even making any sense anymore. Don't 
you know anything about flying?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[authfriend]

> Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you know.


 You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene saw the actual resurrection. She was the 
first. It say so in the Bible - Mary Magdalene was the first to witness the 
resurrection of Christ. Can't you read?


 No, as you know, nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual 
resurrection. 

 

 

 Resurrection of Christ by Noel Coypel, 1700, using a hovering depiction of 
Jesus:
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Noel-coypel-the-resurrection-of-christ-1700.jpg
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Noel-coypel-the-resurrection-of-christ-1700.jpg
 

 "The Resurrection of Jesus is the Christian belief that Jesus Christ 
miraculously returned to life on the Sunday following the Friday on which he 
was executed by crucifixion."
 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection_of_Jesus 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection_of_Jesus
 

 "Resurrection is the concept of a living being coming back to life after 
death." 
 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection
 

 On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:33 AM, mailto:authfriend@...> wrote:
   Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you 
know.


 > Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection,
 
 > as you know.You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene was a witness to the 
 > resurrection - she 
 was the first to realize that Jesus had risen from the tomb and that 
 Jesus was the Christ. Mary was there, the first, she saw it with her own 
 eyes, she experienced it in her heart, and then she told the apostles 
 what had happened to Jesus - that he was raised from the dead and that 
 he had flown out of the tomb up into the air and then he flew off to 
 appear before the others. That's what I think. Most Christian agree with 
 me - nobody agrees with your outrageous and false claims. NOBODY. 
 Everyone on this list thinks you are lying about the Bible. EVERYONE. 
 You can't even read any Greek!


 
 
 
 




 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[authfriend]

> Paul doesn't say anything about Christ "hovering up in the air" above the 500 
> eyewitnesses, as you know. He just says Christ appeared to them.
 
Where do you think the 500 people saw the risen Lord - under ground? Of course 
the risen Christ was up in the sky - how else do you think 500 people would 
have been able seen him all at one time?
 

 You'll have to ask Paul about that, I'm afraid. Certainly big crowds saw him 
all at one time before the Resurrection. Ordinary human beings speak to 500 or 
many more people all the time without being up in the sky.


 You're not even making any sense. Apparently you haven't received the Good 
News, or even Something Good is Happening. Go figure.

 

 I'm not a believer, that's correct. One doesn't have to be a believer to know 
what the Bible says.

 

 According to Paul, after the resurrection the risen Christ was seen above five 
hundred brethren all at once, floating in the sky. Paul himself on the road to 
Damascus saw the risen Lord up in the sky - in the clouds above.
 

 No, as you know, Paul doesn't say Christ was floating in the sky when he 
appeared to the 500 brethren; nor does Paul say he saw the risen Lord up in the 
sky in the clouds above at Damascus.
 

 It's fine to imagine such things as long as you know that's what you're doing 
and don't claim they're in the Bible.
 

 

 

 

 La conversion de Saint Paul
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:La_conversion_de_Saint_Paul_Giordano_Nancy_3018.jpg
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:La_conversion_de_Saint_Paul_Giordano_Nancy_3018.jpg
 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_Paul_the_Apostle 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_Paul_the_Apostle
 

 "After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the 
greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. After that, 
he was seen of James; then of all the apostles." (Corinthians 1:6 - King James 
Version). 
 

 "Then after three years, I went up to Jerusalem to get acquainted with Cephas 
and stayed with him fifteen days. I saw none of the other apostles—only James, 
the Lord's brother. I assure you before God that what I am writing you is no 
lie." - (Galatians 1:18-20 - King James Version). 
 

 "This account meets all the demands of historical reliability that could 
possibly be made of such a text," whilst A. M. Hunter said, "The passage 
therefore preserves uniquely early and verifiable testimony. It meets every 
reasonable demand of historical reliability."
 

 1 Corinthians 15:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_Corinthians_15 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_Corinthians_15
 

 On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:32 AM, mailto:authfriend@...> wrote:
   > Next time you're talking about what the Bible says, Richard,
 > when you add something you made up out of your own head that
 > isn't in the Bible at all, it would be good if you'd say so.
 >
 << Let's get this on record, Ms Stein -it was YOU that cited the Bible in 
 defense of your outrageous and false claims about the Resurrection and 
 the Ascension. >>
 


 Which "outrageous and false claims" were these? Please be specific.
 

 << You need to get your ducks in a row. And maybe take a 
 Sunday Bible Class at a church somewhere. Did you ever consider taking a 
 history course at a community college? Apparently you don't even have a 
 pastor! Go figure. >>
 

Actually, as you know, it's not necessary to take Bible classes or history 
courses or to have a pastor to know what's in the Bible. 

<< According to Paul, the Christ hovered up in the air above 500 
 eye-witnesses. Haven't you even read Pauls letter to the Corinthians? >>

 

 Paul doesn't say anything about Christ "hovering up in the air" above the 500 
eyewitnesses, as you know. He just says Christ appeared to them.
 

 

 

 


 
 
 
 




 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re. Get your Ducks in a Row

[Richard J. Williams]

On 1/2/2014 9:04 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:

 > I think we should all take bets on who gets the last word in on this one!
 >
How much would you be willing to wager? Judy and Bob have their 
"macros", but even then, I think I could beat them, even with one hand 
tied behind my back. I have been known to be persistent with certain 
phrases. Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon's death!

[jr_esq]

Buck,
 

 It's not likely that the messiah will appear after Sharon dies.  But it would 
not matter to the Israelis.  They will continue to wait for the messiah until 
there are no more Jews left.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[Richard J. Williams]

On 1/2/2014 8:56 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:

 > > Were you thinking that Jesus had to grunt, and bow and scrape
 > > to get off the ground?
 > >
 > You mean like the "Yogic Flyers"?
 >
Well yeah, I had Judy in mind - bow and scrape to bun-hop.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[Richard Williams]

> Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small
> space of air beneath his feat*?
>
Have you ever tried to walk around in the hot desert in your bare feet? A
little cushion could go a long way. But there is always a small amount of
air under anyone's feet, although it may be a tiny layer of air. There is
air in everything. But, in fact Christ kept a small layer of air under his
feet as a springboard, so he take off without having to hop on a mattress
of foam. It's obvious.You're not even making any sense, Mike.

> Would it not be possible for Him to walk, not appear to walk but
> actually make contact with the earth? I would think that if you can
> create the world, including being able to raise yourself from death,
> you could at least walk with your feet on the ground.
>
Now why on earth would the Christ want to bow and scrape on the ground? Are
you thinking that when the Christ wants to take off and fly, that he would
run and skip with his feet on the ground and flap his arms like an
albatross? Go figure.


On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Mike Dixon  wrote:

>
>
> Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small space of air
> beneath his feat*? Would it not be possible for Him to walk, not appear to
> walk but actually make contact with the earth? I would think that if you
> can create the world, including being able to raise yourself from death,
> you could at least walk with your feet on the ground.
>
>   *From:* Richard J. Williams 
> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 2, 2014 6:14 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
>
>   On 1/1/2014 5:44 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
>
> > One account of some of the first people to see Christ after
> > resurrection said that they were walking towards Galilee and
> > someone joined them on their walk and it turned out to be
> > Jesus. So, I guess He did do some walking.
> >
> Sure, the Christ could appear to be walking if he wanted to. According
> to early Gnostic writings, Jesus could appear to be doing lots of
> things. The key word here is "appeared" to be walking. Every Gnostic
> knows that Jesus' body was an apparition body. So, it might have
> appeared that Jesus was walking, even moon-walking, but there must have
> been a small space of air beneath his feet. This small space of air
> under his feet is like a foam mattress in the Yogic Flying program -
> it's like a spring board for launching.
>
> Were you thinking that Jesus had to grunt, and bow and scrape to get off
> the ground?
>
> > I guess she was on his level, the ground, not in the air
> > because she was instructed not to cling to him. unless of
> > course she was hovering as well when she first saw Him.
> >
> Of course Jesus was on Mary's level - would you hover ABOVE your
> girlfriend when you flew in to see her? Go figure.
>
>  
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[authfriend]

I have several Bibles in my house, including one on my Kindle. None of them 
says anything about Jesus being "up in the air" after his resurrection (until 
the Ascension 40 days later).
 > the Bible doesn't say anything about Jesus being "up in the air"
 > after his resurrection (until the Ascension 40 days later).
 << Do you even have a Bible in your house? Everyone knows about Christ 
 being in the clouds in hundreds of depictions in religious art. >>
 

 That would be religious art, not the Bible. Some depict the Ascension as 
taking place immediately after the Resurrection, with Jesus floating in the sky 
above the open, empty tomb; others do not. That's called "artistic license." 
Obviously the Resurrection appears much more dramatic the first way, but it's 
not biblical.
 

 << According to Paul, after the resurrection the risen Christ was seen 

 above five hundred brethren all at once, floating in the sky. >>
 

 No, as you know, Paul doesn't say anything about the risen Christ "floating in 
the sky" when he appeared to the 500 brethren. And as far as Paul's conversion 
is concerned, that clearly took place after the Ascension, so Christ could well 
have been "floating in the air" when he spoke to Paul.
 
 "The Conversion of Paul the Apostle, was, according to the New 
 Testament, an event that took place in the life of Paul the Apostle 
 which led him to cease persecuting early Christians and to become a 
 follower of Jesus. It is normally dated by researchers to AD 33–36. "As 
 he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed 
 around him. He fell to the ground and heard a voice..." - Acts 9:3–9.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_Paul_the_Apostle 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_Paul_the_Apostle

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[Richard Williams]

> Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection,
> as you know.
>
You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene saw the actual resurrection. She was the
first. It say so in the Bible - Mary Magdalene was the first to witness the
resurrection of Christ. Can't you read?

[image: Inline image 1]

Resurrection of Christ by Noel Coypel, 1700, using a hovering depiction of
Jesus:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Noel-coypel-the-resurrection-of-christ-1700.jpg

"The Resurrection of Jesus is the Christian belief that Jesus Christ
miraculously returned to life on the Sunday following the Friday on which
he was executed by crucifixion."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection_of_Jesus

"Resurrection is the concept of a living being coming back to life after
death."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection


On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:33 AM,  wrote:

>
>
> *Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you
> know.*
>
>
>
> *> Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, > as
> you know.You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene was a witness to the resurrection
> - she *
>
> was the first to realize that Jesus had risen from the tomb and that
> Jesus was the Christ. Mary was there, the first, she saw it with her own
> eyes, she experienced it in her heart, and then she told the apostles
> what had happened to Jesus - that he was raised from the dead and that
> he had flown out of the tomb up into the air and then he flew off to
> appear before the others. That's what I think. Most Christian agree with
> me - nobody agrees with your outrageous and false claims. NOBODY.
> Everyone on this list thinks you are lying about the Bible. EVERYONE.
> You can't even read any Greek!
>
>  
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[Richard Williams]

> Paul doesn't say anything about Christ "hovering up in the
> air" above the 500 eyewitnesses, as you know. He just says
> Christ appeared to them.
>
Where do you think the 500 people saw the risen Lord - under ground? Of
course the risen Christ was up in the sky - how else do you think 500
people would have been able seen him all at one time? You're not even
making any sense. Apparently you haven't received the Good News, or even
Something Good is Happening. Go figure.

According to Paul, after the resurrection the risen Christ was seen above
five hundred brethren all at once, floating in the sky. Paul himself on the
road to Damascus saw the risen Lord up in the sky - in the clouds above.

[image: Inline image 1]

La conversion de Saint Paul
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:La_conversion_de_Saint_Paul_Giordano_Nancy_3018.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_Paul_the_Apostle

"After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom
the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles." (Corinthians
1:6 - King James Version).

"Then after three years, I went up to Jerusalem to get acquainted with
Cephas and stayed with him fifteen days. I saw none of the other
apostles—only James, the Lord's brother. I assure you before God that what
I am writing you is no lie." - (Galatians 1:18-20 - King James Version).

"This account meets all the demands of historical reliability that could
possibly be made of such a text," whilst A. M. Hunter said, "The passage
therefore preserves uniquely early and verifiable testimony. It meets every
reasonable demand of historical reliability."

1 Corinthians 15:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_Corinthians_15


On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:32 AM,  wrote:

>
>
> > Next time you're talking about what the Bible says, Richard,
> > when you add something you made up out of your own head that
> > isn't in the Bible at all, it would be good if you'd say so.
> >
>
> << Let's get this on record, Ms Stein -it was YOU that cited the Bible in
> defense of your outrageous and false claims about the Resurrection and
> the Ascension. >>
>
> Which "outrageous and false claims" were these? Please be specific.
>
> << You need to get your ducks in a row. And maybe take a
> Sunday Bible Class at a church somewhere. Did you ever consider taking a
> history course at a community college? Apparently you don't even have a
> pastor! Go figure. >>
>
> Actually, as you know, it's not necessary to take Bible classes or history
> courses or to have a pastor to know what's in the Bible.
>
>
> << According to Paul, the Christ hovered up in the air above 500
> eye-witnesses. Haven't you even read Pauls letter to the Corinthians? >>
>
> Paul doesn't say anything about Christ "hovering up in the air" above the
> 500 eyewitnesses, as you know. He just says Christ appeared to them.
>
>
>
>
>  
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[Richard J. Williams]

On 1/2/2014 8:21 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

 > the Bible doesn't say anything about Jesus being "up in the air"
 > after his resurrection (until the Ascension 40 days later).
 >
Do you even have a Bible in your house? Everyone knows about Christ 
being in the clouds in hundreds of depictions in religious art. 
According to Paul, after the resurrection the risen Christ was seen 
above five hundred brethren all at once, floating in the sky.

"The Conversion of Paul the Apostle, was, according to the New 
Testament, an event that took place in the life of Paul the Apostle 
which led him to cease persecuting early Christians and to become a 
follower of Jesus. It is normally dated by researchers to AD 33–36. "As 
he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed 
around him. He fell to the ground and heard a voice..." - Acts 9:3–9.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_Paul_the_Apostle

[FairfieldLife] RE: My fondest wish for FFL for 2014

[authfriend]

It really infuriates Barry when we address him directly. I wonder how he knows 
we do that, given that he claims never to read our posts. And why does he even 
care when he considers us not worth his time? (Speaking of ego...)
 

 Of course we're writing to the crowd. Everybody knows that. Barry's problem is 
that he's afraid, in the absence of a response from him, that we might well 
influence them. But of course he does respond to us, just not directly. 
Everybody knows that too. ;-)
 

 (For the record, I never read Richard's posts unless they're aimed at me or 
have to do with a thread I'm involved in.)
 

 It's pretty simple, actually. Unrealistic, given the egos involved, but 
simple. 

I just wish that a few people who *pretend* that they're writing directly to me 
-- or to one of the other posters who have made it clear that they never bother 
to read anything these people write -- would stop doing so. 

Be *honest*, for once. I'm talking to you (directly :-), Judy, Ann, and Bob. 

I haven't read anything in *any* of your posts other than the few words that I 
can't avoid seeing when scanning the newsgroup in Message View mode in weeks. I 
will *never* read -- or respond to -- any full post that you write here. Ever. 

Get over it. Learn to live with the fact that you've been *written off*, almost 
as if you were simply not worth my time, and have no possibility of *ever* 
being worth my time in the future. 

Either that, or continue to *pretend* to be writing directly to me, even though 
*everyone* here knows that you're really "writing to the crowd," hoping to 
influence *them*. 

What you're doing is silly, it's juvenile, and it makes *you* look like 
out-of-control egos trolling desperately for some kind of response. You're not 
going to get one from those of us who've written you off, so why not write *to* 
the people you still hope to get one from, eh?

Those of us the three of you stalk know -- as does everyone else here -- that 
you read *every* word of *every* post we write. Your NPD causes you to think 
that other people feel the same way about the things you write. T'ain't true. 
That is YOUR failing, YOUR psychosis, and YOUR samskara, not ours. We've 
written you off. If you were half as smart as you like to pose as being, you'd 
have figured that out by now. 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Information Technology Systems

[Richard Williams]

Internet Alley

[image: Inline image 1]

"In recent years, the influx of technology companies into Northern Virginia
has brought many new office buildings and hotels to the landscape. The
rapid growth of Tysons Corner (in comparison to other locations near the
Capital Beltway) has been the topic of numerous studies. This is a
visionary look at Tysons Corner as the driving force of the nation's
technological economy."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tysons_Corner,_Virginia

"Much of the world's Internet management and governance takes place in a
corridor extending west from Washington, DC, through northern Virginia
toward Washington Dulles International Airport. Much of the United States'
military planning and analysis takes place here as well. At the center of
that corridor is Tysons Corner--an unincorporated suburban crossroads once
dominated by dairy farms and gravel pits.

Today, the government contractors and high- tech firms--companies like
DynCorp, CACI, Verisign, and SAIC--that now populate this corridor have
created an "Internet Alley" off the Washington Beltway. In From Tysons
Corner to Internet Alley, Paul Ceruzzi examines this compact area of
intense commercial development and describes its transformation into one of
the most dynamic and prosperous regions in the country. Ceruzzi explains
how a concentration of military contractors carrying out weapons analysis,
systems engineering, operations research, and telecommunications combined
with suburban growth patterns to drive the region's development.

The dot-com bubble's burst was offset here, he points out, by the
government's growing national security-related need for information
technology. Ceruzzi looks in detail at the nature of the work carried out
by these government contractors and how it can be considered truly
innovative in terms of both technology and management. Today in Tysons
Corner, clusters of sleek new office buildings housing high-technology
companies stand out against the suburban landscape, and the upscale Tysons
Galleria Mall is neighbor to a government-owned radio tower marked by a
sign warning visitors not to photograph or sketch it.

Ceruzzi finds that a variety of perennially relevant issues intersect here,
making it both a literal and figurative crossroads: federal support of
scientific research, the shift of government activities to private
contractors, local politics of land use, and the postwar movement from
central cities to suburbs. Paul E. Ceruzzi is Curator of the National Air
and Space Museum, Smithsonian Institution, Washington DC. He is the author
of A History of Modern Computing (second edition, MIT Press, 2003) and
other books, and coeditor of The Internet and American Business (MIT Press,
2008)."

Read more:

"Internet Alley: High Technology in Tysons Corner, 1945-2005'
by Paul E. Ceruzzi
The MIT Press, 2011


On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Richard Williams wrote:

> Data Centers - The Cloud
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> Data centers adhere to the same rules as any electronic secret black box -
> the first rule of any data center is : "Don't talk about the data centers."
> This is typical hush-hush and can also carry over to people's mental ideas
> of other types the internet infrastructure such as  networks, exchange
> points, the web, cables and "the cloud." Very few people know where their
> data is stored - sure you have a hard drive on your computer or a flash
> drive  where you store your data, or even a few blue ethernet cables lying
> around the house.
>
> But, other locations are mysterious - for example, your online mail, bank
> information or your Amazon account. So, where is the data? In Oregon or
> Alaska? Where is the data center and what makes a data center work? If it's
> not really in the cloud, where is it? And, how many copies of your data are
> out there, stored out there, somewhere in the back of beyond. According to
> Blum, there is a physical infrastructure.
>
> "So  why all the secrecy about data centers? A data center if the
> storehouse of information, the closest the internet has to a physical
> vault. Exchange points are merely transient places, where information
> passes through (and fast!). But in data centers it's relatively static, and
> physically contained in equipment that needs to be protected, and which
> itself has enormous value. Yet more often the secrecy isn't because of
> concerns over privacy or theft, but competition. Knowing how big a data
> center is, how much power it uses, and precisely what's inside is the kind
> of proprietary information technology companies are eager to keep under
> wraps."
>
> Work cited:
>
> 'Tubes: A Journey to the Center of the Internet'
> by Andrew Blum
> Ecco, 2012
> p. 238
>
> Other links of interest:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_center
>
> Performance Cloud Servers:
> http://www.rackspace.com/
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Richard Williams wrote:
>
>> Tubes: A Journey to the Center of the Internet
>>
>> Tubes, by

Re: [FairfieldLife] My fondest wish for FFL for 2014

[Bhairitu]

And given the Neo interface and perusing FFL one should probably only 
respond above the post as I'm doing here.  Neo doesn't parse embedded 
replies very well.


On 01/02/2014 11:16 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


*/It's pretty simple, actually. Unrealistic, given the egos involved, 
but simple.


I just wish that a few people who *pretend* that they're writing 
directly to me -- or to one of the other posters who have made it 
clear that they never bother to read anything these people write -- 
would stop doing so.


Be *honest*, for once. I'm talking to you (directly :-), Judy, Ann, 
and Bob.


I haven't read anything in *any* of your posts other than the few 
words that I can't avoid seeing when scanning the newsgroup in Message 
View mode in weeks. I will *never* read -- or respond to -- any full 
post that you write here. Ever.


Get over it. Learn to live with the fact that you've been *written 
off*, almost as if you were simply not worth my time, and have no 
possibility of *ever* being worth my time in the future.


Either that, or continue to *pretend* to be writing directly to me, 
even though *everyone* here knows that you're really "writing to the 
crowd," hoping to influence *them*.


What you're doing is silly, it's juvenile, and it makes *you* look 
like out-of-control egos trolling desperately for some kind of 
response. You're not going to get one from those of us who've written 
you off, so why not write *to* the people you still hope to get one 
from, eh?


Those of us the three of you stalk know -- as does everyone else here 
-- that you read *every* word of *every* post we write. Your NPD 
causes you to think that other people feel the same way about the 
things you write. T'ain't true. That is YOUR failing, YOUR psychosis, 
and YOUR samskara, not ours. We've written you off. If you were half 
as smart as you like to pose as being, you'd have figured that out by 
now.




/*

[FairfieldLife] My fondest wish for FFL for 2014

[TurquoiseB]

It's pretty simple, actually. Unrealistic, given the egos involved, but
simple.

I just wish that a few people who *pretend* that they're writing
directly to me -- or to one of the other posters who have made it clear
that they never bother to read anything these people write -- would stop
doing so.

Be *honest*, for once. I'm talking to you (directly :-), Judy, Ann, and
Bob.

I haven't read anything in *any* of your posts other than the few words
that I can't avoid seeing when scanning the newsgroup in Message View
mode in weeks. I will *never* read -- or respond to -- any full post
that you write here. Ever.

Get over it. Learn to live with the fact that you've been *written off*,
almost as if you were simply not worth my time, and have no possibility
of *ever* being worth my time in the future.

Either that, or continue to *pretend* to be writing directly to me, even
though *everyone* here knows that you're really "writing to the crowd,"
hoping to influence *them*.

What you're doing is silly, it's juvenile, and it makes *you* look like
out-of-control egos trolling desperately for some kind of response.
You're not going to get one from those of us who've written you off, so
why not write *to* the people you still hope to get one from, eh?

Those of us the three of you stalk know -- as does everyone else here --
that you read *every* word of *every* post we write. Your NPD causes you
to think that other people feel the same way about the things you write.
T'ain't true. That is YOUR failing, YOUR psychosis, and YOUR samskara,
not ours. We've written you off. If you were half as smart as you like
to pose as being, you'd have figured that out by now.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[Mike Dixon]

Actually, I think we're all pushing each others buttons and my sides are aching 
right now LOL!


From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 10:09 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Get Your Ducks in a Row

  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote: 
<< Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small space of air 
beneath his feat*? Would it not be possible for Him to walk, not appear to walk 
but actually make contact with the earth? I would think that if you can create 
the world, including being able to raise yourself from death, you could at 
least walk with your feet on the ground.
>>
>>
>>
>>Mike, you're makin' me laugh. I love your posts, keep 'em comin'. And Happy 
>>New Year. >>
>>
>>
>>Trouble is, he's making sense, so he isn't going to get anywhere with Richard.
>>
>>
>>Thanks Auth, that made me laugh too. BTW, you have a good friend in that bOb 
>>fellow. He certainly appears to be able to more than hold his own with the 
>>riffle raffle around here and to keep his head above the flotsam and jetsam 
>>currently streaming. I think he might be a keeper. My vote: he can stay part 
>>of the Club for 2014, maybe if Honorary but we'll have to bring that up with 
>>the board.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holding back

[bobpriced]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass wrote:
 >
> ... Regarding truth and accuracy on FFL, that ship sailed a long time ago. 

 That ship never left the dock. :-) 

 > What started out as more of an earnest place to discuss spiritual 
 > experiences, has devolved into simply a chat room, where anyone can say 
 > anything, about anything, and anyone. 

 That's what it always was. Neither concept of "truth" or "accuracy" was ever 
in evidence here, and for good reason. Neither has anything to do with 
spiritual experience, which is by definition subjective. 

There can never be any "truth" with regard to something that only one person 
experiences, *other than he or she claims -- rightfully or wrongfully -- to 
having experienced it*, and as for "accuracy," well that has depended pretty 
much since the beginning of spiritual discussion on how good or bad a 
storyteller the person claiming the experience is. The good ones can be 
*fairly* accurate while still holding their audiences' attention, but the bad 
ones *make shit up*. 

It's been like this since the beginning of time; ALL scriptures or "holy 
writings" in human history are just storytelling, and most of them IMO fall 
into the "bad storytelling" category, meaning that they're largely made up to 
appeal to an audience that wouldn't be content with a simply accurate retelling 
of a subjective experience. Get over it. 

 > So if Judy wants to keep upholding the truth on here, that is her choice...

 And her particular hubris. The very *idea* of her -- or anyone -- claiming to 
know "the truth" is ludicrous. It's just *more* ludicrous coming from her, 
that's all. :-)

 > ...but I am with Steve on this one. This place just isn't worth the effort 
 > anymore, regarding its original intent, though I do enjoy chatting here, 
 > from time to time. 

 Why are you looking for "more?" Chatting is what equals do. "Truth telling" is 
what people who claim to be UNEQUAL, and SUPERIOR, and the "knowers" of "truth" 
do to the people they look down on. Historically, Jim, you've always been one 
of the latter. It would be more pleasant if you chose mainly to chat from now 
on, but I for one am not going to hold my breath. :-)
 

 If you can't tell the difference between rules of evidence in a court of law 
and the speculations of religious dogma, you might consider starting a thread 
of your own; you could go with the subject line:
 

 "Travels with the voice in my head, why every thought I have is an idea." 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re. Get your Yucks in a Row

[Mike Dixon]

Our very own Duck Dynasty. Maybe we could get A&E to do a show on all the 
contributors here. LOL! Blessed are the peace makers having holly war with each 
other. LOL


From: Bhairitu 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re. Get your Yucks in a Row

  
FFL has gone to the birds  or the ducks.On 01/02/2014 07:04 AM, Mike Dixon 
wrote:
  
>I think we should all take bets on who gets the last word in on this one! LOL!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Great Rock Hits of the Past

[Richard Williams]

The Zombies

[image: Inline image 1]

She's Not There  - Live 1965
http://youtu.be/aBdrDu9nq7Q

Paul Atkinson
Chris White
Sebastian Santa Maria
Hugh Grundy
Keith Airey

She's Not There - from the Moon Flower album by Santana, 1977
http://youtu.be/c7wNM30R2WI

"The Zombies are an English rock band, formed in 1962 in St Albans and led
by Rod Argent (piano, organ and vocals) and Colin Blunstone (vocals). The
group scored British and American hits in 1964 with "She's Not There" Their
1968 album, Odessey and Oracle, comprising twelve songs by the group's
principal songwriters, Argent and Chris White, is ranked number 100 on
Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 500 Greatest Albums of All Time."

Carlos Santana - Guitars
Greg Walker - Vocals
David Margen - Bass
Tom Coster - Keys
Graham Lear - Drums
Pete Escovedo - Percussion
Pablo Tellez - Percussion
Paul Rekow - Percussion

[image: Inline image 2]

This classic Zombies album still in my record collection, 331/3 RPM vinyl -
played once (near mint).

Read more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Zombies

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/500-greatest-albums-of-all-time



On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Richard Williams wrote:

> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> Huey Lewis and the News  - from the Sports Album
> http://youtu.be/gMa2coAIiuo
>
> I Want A New Drug - from the Sports Album
> http://youtu.be/N6uEMOeDZsA
>
> Hip To Be Square - From the album Fore!
> http://youtu.be/LB5YkmjalDg
>
> Workin' for a livin' - Live 1992
> http://youtu.be/9N2CANatVYQ
>
> In 1993 I saw this band at a free concert in Zilker Park in Austin. Sweet!
> "Huey Lewis and the News is an American pop rock band based in San
> Francisco, California. They had a run of hit singles during the 1980s and
> early 1990s, eventually scoring a total of 19 top-ten singles across the
> Billboard Hot 100, Adult Contemporary and Mainstream Rock charts. Their
> greatest success was in the 1980s with the number-one album, Sports,
> coupled with a series of highly successful MTV videos."
>
> Read more:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huey_Lewis_and_the_News
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Richard Williams wrote:
>
>> Gene Vincent
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> Be-Bop-A-Lula - Video
>> http://youtu.be/AH4qCNjpY_k
>>
>> "Vincent Eugene Craddock (February 11, 1935 – October 12, 1971), known as
>> Gene Vincent, was an American musician who pioneered the styles of rock and
>> roll and rockabilly. His 1956 top ten hit with his Blue Caps,
>> "Be-Bop-A-Lula", is considered a significant early example of rockabilly.
>> He is a member of both the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and the Rockabilly
>> Hall of Fame."
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Vincent
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Richard Williams 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Eddie Cochran
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>
>>> Summertime Blues - Town Hall Party - 1959
>>> http://youtu.be/Ti38LFY7x1Y
>>>
>>> C'mon Everybody 45 RPM vinyl recording
>>> http://youtu.be/7-71rZxFiRQ
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image 2]
>>>
>>> Edward Raymond 'Eddie' Cochran (October 3, 1938 – April 17, 1960) was an
>>> American musician. Cochran's rockabilly songs, such as "C'mon Everybody"
>>> and "Summertime Blues". He experimented with multitrack recording and
>>> overdubbing even on his earliest singles, and was also able to play piano,
>>> bass and drums.[1] His image as a sharply dressed, rugged but good-looking
>>> young man with a rebellious attitude epitomized the stance of the 50s
>>> rocker, and in death he achieved an iconic status."
>>>
>>> Read more:
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Cochran
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Richard Williams 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Blondie

 [image: Inline image 1]

 Heart Of Glass - Video
 http://youtu.be/WGU_4-5RaxU

 Call Me - Video
 http://youtu.be/aH3Q_CZy968

 One Way Or Another - Video
 http://youtu.be/KXewIR7Y7cc

 Rapture - Video
 http://youtu.be/pHCdS7O248g

 "Blondie is an American rock band founded by singer Deborah Harry and
 guitarist Chris Stein.[3] The band was a pioneer in the early American new
 wave and punk scenes of the mid-1970s. The band achieved several hit
 singles including "Call Me", "Rapture" and "Heart of Glass". Parallel Lines
 is ranked No. 140 on Rolling Stone's list of 500 greatest albums of all
 time."

 Read more:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blondie_(band)


 On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Richard Williams >>> > wrote:

> Devo
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> Whip It (Video Live Fridays)
> http://youtu.be/bQidM91CkXE
>
> "Devo is an American New Wave band formed in 1972 consisting of
> members from Kent and Akron, Ohio. The classic line-up of the band 
> includes
> two sets of brothers, the Mot

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Holding back

[Bhairitu]

I've always compared FFL to the "General Topics" of forums.  This seemed 
to Rick's intent.  It's a place for folks of a similar background to 
discuss anything. There are already plenty of "spiritual experience" 
groups though they may well be moderated by folks who will boot anyone 
who gets a little to pesky with attacking the messenger than focusing on 
the message.


On 01/02/2014 08:55 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:


Happy New Year, Ann! Yep, I like the little shops. Regarding truth and 
accuracy on FFL, that ship sailed a long time ago. What started out as 
more of an earnest place to discuss spiritual experiences, has 
devolved into simply a chat room, where anyone can say anything, about 
anything, and anyone. So if Judy wants to keep upholding the truth on 
here, that is her choice, but I am with Steve on this one. This place 
just isn't worth the effort anymore, regarding its original intent, 
though I do enjoy chatting here, from time to time. I am also a huge 
proponent of actions speaking louder than words, and I am very active. :-)

[FairfieldLife] RE: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[awoelflebater]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 << Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small space of air 
beneath his feat*? Would it not be possible for Him to walk, not appear to walk 
but actually make contact with the earth? I would think that if you can create 
the world, including being able to raise yourself from death, you could at 
least walk with your feet on the ground.

 

 Mike, you're makin' me laugh. I love your posts, keep 'em comin'. And Happy 
New Year. >>
 

 Trouble is, he's making sense, so he isn't going to get anywhere with Richard.
 

 Thanks Auth, that made me laugh too. BTW, you have a good friend in that bOb 
fellow. He certainly appears to be able to more than hold his own with the 
riffle raffle around here and to keep his head above the flotsam and jetsam 
currently streaming. I think he might be a keeper. My vote: he can stay part of 
the Club for 2014, maybe if Honorary but we'll have to bring that up with the 
board.
 


 










 

[FairfieldLife] Blessed Prasad, The Guru's Grace

[martin.quickman]

A most wonderful  retelling of the time when Swami would walk among us offering 
blessed sweets. Often He would toss them in our laps or hair bands, each one 
deliciously savoured or preserved for a special moment. Be loved, and be 
blessed  -
 

 
http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2010/10/18/blessed-prasad-darshan-experiences/
 
http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2010/10/18/blessed-prasad-darshan-experiences/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holding back

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  doctordumbass wrote:
>
>  ... Regarding truth and accuracy on FFL, that ship sailed a long time
ago.

That ship never left the dock. :-)

> What started out as more of an earnest place to discuss spiritual
experiences, has devolved into simply a chat room, where anyone can say
anything, about anything, and anyone.

That's what it always was. Neither concept of "truth" or "accuracy" was
ever in evidence here, and for good reason. Neither has anything to do
with spiritual experience, which is by definition subjective.

There can never be any "truth" with regard to something that only one
person experiences, *other than he or she claims -- rightfully or
wrongfully -- to having experienced it*, and as for "accuracy," well
that has depended pretty much since the beginning of spiritual
discussion on how good or bad a storyteller the person claiming the
experience is. The good ones can be *fairly* accurate while still
holding their audiences' attention, but the bad ones *make shit up*.

It's been like this since the beginning of time; ALL scriptures or "holy
writings" in human history are just storytelling, and most of them IMO
fall into the "bad storytelling" category, meaning that they're largely
made up to appeal to an audience that wouldn't be content with a simply
accurate retelling of a subjective experience. Get over it.

> So if Judy wants to keep upholding the truth on here, that is her
choice...

And her particular hubris. The very *idea* of her -- or anyone --
claiming to know "the truth" is ludicrous. It's just *more* ludicrous
coming from her, that's all. :-)

> ...but I am with Steve on this one. This place just isn't worth the
effort anymore, regarding its original intent, though I do enjoy
chatting here, from time to time.

Why are you looking for "more?" Chatting is what equals do. "Truth
telling" is what people who claim to be UNEQUAL, and SUPERIOR, and the
"knowers" of "truth" do to the people they look down on. Historically,
Jim, you've always been one of the latter. It would be more pleasant if
you chose mainly to chat from now on, but I for one am not going to hold
my breath. :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Holding back

[bobpriced]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 I've just been reading through them, and I think he is a really funny guy.  
 

 I agree if you think being (profoundly) intellectually insecure is humorous. 

 

 Thanks Bob - I've been wondering what the hell his driver is.

 

 Like Barry's lifestyle, Richard compulsively beats a drum most of us put away 
in our youth.
 

 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as 
a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 1 Corinthians 
13:11 
 

 (Does that sound like Lex Luthor to you?)
 

 Happy birthday to your wife Dr., I would follow Ann's advice and stick with 
the small stores: 
 

 "Support Small Business!"
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Holding back

[bobpriced]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Hey Bob,
 

 Giving things are good, hard look is good.
 

 Parsing something into idiocy, or for the purposes of trying to win an 
argument is bad.
 

 I think it works something like that.
 

 Have you ever had a kitten, where any little playful movement elicits a full 
pounce response.  That's kinda what I'm talking about with Judy. Where any 
little point, or disagreement becomes the grounds for an argument, if she feels 
like arguing, which usually seems to be the case.
 

 And since you and Judy have asked for examples of her missing irony, it 
happened (particularly) in a post I made about Robin some time ago.  My post 
was so outlandish that I was shocked anyone could have taken it seriously. But 
take it seriously she did, and I was then too embarrassed (for her) to point it 
out.
 

 Fortunately most everyone else "got", and when it came up later in a 
discussion, I was quite relieved that the misconception could be finally 
cleared up.  Since then there have been several other instances.  But if you 
think I'm making it up, just disregard the comment as some kind of fabrication 
on my part.  
 

 And sorry again for my misspellings.  I was anxious to get out the door. The 
wife's birthday is on the fourth. Naturally she's felt cheated all her life by 
having her birthday so close to Christmas.  But it sure made it easy finding 
something nice today at 50% off.
 

 Hi Steve,
 

 Thanks for responding although your first sentence might be a bit too haiku 
for my talents. I enjoy our exchanges, but it's back to the coal mines for me; 
forgive me if my responses are slow, its not for lack of interest in your views.
 

 What I see on FFL are a bunch of fried old boomer misogynists (Barry, Richard, 
Xeno), starting arguments with Judy that they can't finish; Judy then puts them 
out of their misery by making them stand in the corner for an afternoon, where 
they obsessively contemplate their blunders - telling themselves that: "next 
time it will be different", only to find themselves back in the corner cooling 
there heels the next time they start an argument with her; its like watching 
Bjorn Borg dispatch Bobby Riggs in the movie "Ground Hog Day". 
 

 Why wouldn't Judy parse to win an argument someone else started with her, we 
all do that; have you not *analyzed and responded minutely* in this exchange? I 
believe it's standard practice for communicating on new media, and, IMO, a hell 
of a lot more suitable for "chat rooms" than Richard's incontinent polemics (at 
least some of Barry's and Shares mindless dribble would work on Twitter). 
 

 It's interesting you pick something as dangerous and cute as a kitten as an 
analogy for Judy's aggression, I wonder if that doesn't point to a grudging 
respect that you'd be more open about if you're weren't *all in* in your 
defence of Share.
 

 Happy birthday to your wife - I would go with Ann's advice and stick to the 
small stores.  
 

 All the best for your business in 2014 - hope you ride the year of the horse 
to the fulfillment of all your dreams. 
 
  

[FairfieldLife] Thoughts Are Powerful Things

[martin.quickman]

an excerpt from Sir Isaac Tigrett's talk given in Singapore 2007.
 

 
http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2013/12/30/our-thoughts-are-powerful-excerpted-from-isaac-tigretts-singapore-talk-2007/
 
http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2013/12/30/our-thoughts-are-powerful-excerpted-from-isaac-tigretts-singapore-talk-2007/

[FairfieldLife] RE: Holding back

[awoelflebater]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Happy New Year, Ann! Yep, I like the little shops. Regarding truth and 
accuracy on FFL, that ship sailed a long time ago. What started out as more of 
an earnest place to discuss spiritual experiences, has devolved into simply a 
chat room, where anyone can say anything, about anything, and anyone. So if 
Judy wants to keep upholding the truth on here, that is her choice, but I am 
with Steve on this one. This place just isn't worth the effort anymore, 
regarding its original intent, though I do enjoy chatting here, from time to 
time. I am also a huge proponent of actions speaking louder than words, and I 
am very active. :-)
 

 Yes, you seem to live a very full and happy life with your music, your 
interests, your family and your retirement allowing you freedom in terms of 
time and, presumably, resources. 
 

 I think this place can be extremely tedious and it can be frustrating but 
whatever one wants to call it, it certainly is an interesting insight into 
human nature. It is not necessarily the most optimistically bright look at the 
human condition but there are the more insightful and humorous glimpses and 
that is what keeps me hanging around. 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[authfriend]

<< Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small space of air 
beneath his feat*? Would it not be possible for Him to walk, not appear to walk 
but actually make contact with the earth? I would think that if you can create 
the world, including being able to raise yourself from death, you could at 
least walk with your feet on the ground.

 

 Mike, you're makin' me laugh. I love your posts, keep 'em comin'. And Happy 
New Year. >>
 

 Trouble is, he's making sense, so he isn't going to get anywhere with Richard.
 

 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[awoelflebater]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small space of air 
beneath his feat*? Would it not be possible for Him to walk, not appear to walk 
but actually make contact with the earth? I would think that if you can create 
the world, including being able to raise yourself from death, you could at 
least walk with your feet on the ground.

 

 Mike, you're makin' me laugh. I love your posts, keep 'em comin'. And Happy 
New Year.
 

 
From: Richard J. Williams 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

   On 1/1/2014 5:44 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:

> One account of some of the first people to see Christ after
> resurrection said that they were walking towards Galilee and
> someone joined them on their walk and it turned out to be
> Jesus. So, I guess He did do some walking.
>
Sure, the Christ could appear to be walking if he wanted to. According 
to early Gnostic writings, Jesus could appear to be doing lots of 
things. The key word here is "appeared" to be walking. Every Gnostic 
knows that Jesus' body was an apparition body. So, it might have 
appeared that Jesus was walking, even moon-walking, but there must have 
been a small space of air beneath his feet. This small space of air 
under his feet is like a foam mattress in the Yogic Flying program - 
it's like a spring board for launching.

Were you thinking that Jesus had to grunt, and bow and scrape to get off 
the ground?

> I guess she was on his level, the ground, not in the air
> because she was instructed not to cling to him. unless of
> course she was hovering as well when she first saw Him.
>
Of course Jesus was on Mary's level - would you hover ABOVE your 
girlfriend when you flew in to see her? Go figure.


 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About the Fighting Ascetics of India

[Bhairitu]

This is not a football game.  TM is a joke compared to the centuries 
long tradition and knowledge of the Shakaracharya tradition.


On 01/02/2014 03:19 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:


Wow!   Where does this stand now?  Does Maharishi's guy have an inside 
track now? Is there now any defference or are they still fighting? 
 Follow the money?  Nadir Ram apparently recently appealed to [a] the 
shankaracharya to rule on his legitimacy as heir to TM around the 
recent revolt of Mother Divine within TM.  Which Shankaracharya is his 
guy?   This article cited was from 2003.  What up now?  Who is our guy?


-Buck

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[awoelflebater]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 On 1/1/2014 4:52 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
 > Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection,
 > as you know.
 >
 You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene was a witness to the resurrection - she 
 was the first to realize that Jesus had risen from the tomb and that 
 Jesus was the Christ. Mary was there, the first, she saw it with her own 
 eyes, she experienced it in her heart, and then she told the apostles 
 what had happened to Jesus - that he was raised from the dead and that 
 he had flown out of the tomb up into the air and then he flew off to 
 appear before the others. That's what I think. Most Christian agree with 
 me - nobody agrees with your outrageous and false claims. NOBODY. 
 Everyone on this list thinks you are lying about the Bible. EVERYONE. 
 You can't even read any Greek!
 

 Important Message to the other readers at FFL:
 Richard is desperately needing some approval here. He won't stop until Barry 
and Share and Steve and whoever else feels he's a war hero (falling on his 
grenade and all that. Can't have been a live grenade seeing as there is sound 
still issuing from his mouth) give him more accolades, applause and another 
medal. So please, gather 'round and praise this man so we can all go home and 
get a good night's sleep and go onto something more interesting like what 
product you all use to de-flea your cats.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re. Get your Yucks in a Row

[Bhairitu]

FFL has gone to the birds  or the ducks.

On 01/02/2014 07:04 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:
I think we should all take bets on who gets the last word in on this 
one! LOL!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[Share Long]

I agree, Judy, it is an imaginative composition. What I especially like is that 
the artist seems to be playing with perspective. BUT from the point of view of 
the human body, rather than a line of columns or some other architectural 
structure. Also, I like that by costume he places the three guards in another 
era. Thanks for suggesting I look more closely.





On Thursday, January 2, 2014 10:15 AM, "authfri...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
Look more closely. The painting shows him in the process of emerging from the 
tomb right through the stone lid fully clothed (or draped), while the guards 
are snoring away.

This is my favorite painting of the Resurrection, both because Christ looks 
kind of beat up and even a little diffident--more "Hi, Dad, it's me" than 
triumphant; and because the artist is having us on a bit: it all seems rather 
mundane and unexciting until you notice where Christ's left leg is, with the 
lid still firmly on the tomb.

Also, it's a wonderfully executed, very imaginative composition.



<< Ok, Richard and Judy, based on this painting, I wonder if Jesus rose THROUGH 
the stone, but nekkid. Three beings were there on the outside. They helped him 
move the stone so he could retrieve his garments. Then the three men fell 
asleep, they were so tired from moving that rock! What do you all think? >>





On Thursday, January 2, 2014 7:46 AM, "authfriend@..."  wrote:
 
  
<< Richard, I haven't really thought about it much til now! But now thinking 
about it, maybe Jesus rose body and soul THROUGH the stone on top of his crypt. 
And that's why he was nekkid. The cloth couldn't make it through the stone! >>





Hans Multscher, 1437

[FairfieldLife] RE: Holding back

[doctordumbass]

Happy New Year, Ann! Yep, I like the little shops. Regarding truth and accuracy 
on FFL, that ship sailed a long time ago. What started out as more of an 
earnest place to discuss spiritual experiences, has devolved into simply a chat 
room, where anyone can say anything, about anything, and anyone. So if Judy 
wants to keep upholding the truth on here, that is her choice, but I am with 
Steve on this one. This place just isn't worth the effort anymore, regarding 
its original intent, though I do enjoy chatting here, from time to time. I am 
also a huge proponent of actions speaking louder than words, and I am very 
active. :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About Zen

[Richard Williams]

[image: Inline image 1]
Sumi painting by Shunryo Suzuki

Zen Master Dogen got the Soto Zen practice from his teacher in China -
Dogen was a master linguist and the author of 'Shobogenzo' in which he
describes in detail the Soto Zen practice - sitting meditation. In Dogen's
Zen practice, the primary realization is the *oneness* of
practice-enlightenment. The practice of zazen and the experience of
enlightenment are one and the same - there is no difference - no
duality.According to Georg Feurerstein, the Buddha Shakya the Muni was the
first historical yogin in India - Buddha taught meditation that was
transcendental.

It' s like a Zen koan:

"Wind flag, mind moves,
The same understanding.
When the mouth opens
All are wrong." - Mumon

The practice of 'just sitting' is non-different from the enlightenment -
there is no gap between your practice and your enlightenment. Just sitting
IS enlightenment. Zazen is not step-by-step process - it is all-at-once or
nothing at all. There are no steps along the way. According to Shunryo
Suzuki, a master in the Soto Zen sect, meditation is 'zazen', regular
sitting, based on the teachings of Zen Master Dogen. It's just like TM
practice, sitting meditation. Anyone who has practiced TM and Soto Zen
knows this - it's pretty common knowledge without even going into any
linguistics.

Dogen Kigen:

Fifty-four years lighting up the sky.
A quivering leap smashes a billion worlds.
Hah!
Entire body looks for nothing.
Living, I plunge into Yellow Springs.

Exerpt:

"Once we turn our eyes from Japan to the Western
scene, we find that virtually nothing has been
introduced concerning Dogen - this is unfortuenant
indeed, given that ignorance of Soto Zen is
tantamount to ignorance of Dogen, its founder."

Ken Wilber says that Zen practice is very similar to TM practice.
Apparently Wilber's parents have started TM practice some time ago. Wilber
ascribes to the 'two truths doctrine' of
Nagarjuna. For Wilber no metaphysical doctrine or apparent reality is true
in an absolute sense: only formless awareness, "the simple feeling of
being," exists absolutely.

Works cited:

'The Yoga Tradition: Its History, Literature,
Philosophy and Practice'
by Georg Feuerstein and Ken Wilbur
Hohm Press, 2001

'Dogen Kigen--Mystical Realist'
by Hee-Jin Kim
Wisdom Publications, 2004

'A Brief History of Everything'
By Ken Wilber
Shambhala, 2007
Page 42-3


On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 8:49 PM,  wrote:

>
>
> There is simply nothing better than 60-s blah blah
>
>
> Yes. Alan Watts, D. T. Suzuki and Krishnamurti turned the world upside
> down. (At least my inner world.) And lets not forget MMY's Science of
> Being and Art of Living. Though not in the same league it was an original
> and optimistic work.
>
>  
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[authfriend]

Look more closely. The painting shows him in the process of emerging from the 
tomb right through the stone lid fully clothed (or draped), while the guards 
are snoring away.
 

 This is my favorite painting of the Resurrection, both because Christ looks 
kind of beat up and even a little diffident--more "Hi, Dad, it's me" than 
triumphant; and because the artist is having us on a bit: it all seems rather 
mundane and unexciting until you notice where Christ's left leg is, with the 
lid still firmly on the tomb.
 

 Also, it's a wonderfully executed, very imaginative composition.
 

 << Ok, Richard and Judy, based on this painting, I wonder if Jesus rose 
THROUGH the stone, but nekkid. Three beings were there on the outside. They 
helped him move the stone so he could retrieve his garments. Then the three men 
fell asleep, they were so tired from moving that rock! What do you all think? >>
 

 
 
 On Thursday, January 2, 2014 7:46 AM, "authfriend@..."  wrote:
 
   << Richard, I haven't really thought about it much til now! But now thinking 
about it, maybe Jesus rose body and soul THROUGH the stone on top of his crypt. 
And that's why he was nekkid. The cloth couldn't make it through the stone! >>

 

 

 

 Hans Multscher, 1437
 
 
 
 



 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: 100 Greatest Artists of Hard Rock

[Richard Williams]

The Kinks

[image: Inline image 1]

You Really Got Me
http://youtu.be/-2GmzyeeXnQ

Original line-up in 1965:

Pete Quaife
Dave Davies
Ray Davies
Mick Avory

"The Kinks were an English rock band formed in Muswell Hill, North London,
by brothers Ray and Dave Davies in 1964. The Kinks, who rose to fame during
the mid-1960s and were part of the British Invasion of the USA, are
recognized as one of the most important and influential rock groups of the
era. "You Really Got Me" was released in August 1964, and, boosted by a
performance on the television show Ready Steady Go!, quickly reached number
one in the United Kingdom. The Kinks are one of the most important and
influential rock acts of the 1960s"

Read more:

The Kinks:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kinks

British Rock:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_rock


On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Richard Williams wrote:

> Little Richard
>
> [image: Inline image 2]
>
> Lucille- LIVE 1973
> http://youtu.be/6OIkfEdll0E
>
> Long Tall Sally - 1956
> http://youtu.be/jqxNSvFMkag
>
> Good Golly Miss Molly - Muhammad Ali's 50th Birthday
> http://youtu.be/AK_jm3Hz1Wk
>
> The Girl Can't Help It - Live
> http://youtu.be/oqz6Y9aHGIQ
>
> Jenny, Jenny - Specialty 78 RPM vinyl recording, 1957
> http://youtu.be/UXasGv0c4V0
>
> Keep A-Knockin - Specialty 331/3 RPM vinyl album, 1957
> http://youtu.be/PcJrExewkYA
>
> Rolling Stone ranked the album "Here's Little Richard" number fifty on the
> "500 Greatest Albums of All Time"; ranked Penniman number eight on the list
> of "100 Greatest Artists of All Time"; three of Penniman's recordings, "The
> Girl Can't Help It", "Long Tall Sally" and "Tutti Frutti", are listed in
> "500 Greatest Songs of All Time"; and the song "Good Golly, Miss Molly"
> listed on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's "500 Songs that Shaped Rock and
> Roll".
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> "Richard Wayne Penniman, known by his stage name Little Richard, is an
> American recording artist, songwriter, and musician. He has been an
> influential figure in popular music and culture for over six decades.
> Penniman's most celebrated work dates from the mid 1950s where his dynamic
> music and charismatic showmanship laid the foundation for rock and roll."
>
> Read more:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Richard
>
> 'Sweet Soul Music: Rhythm and Blues and the Southern Dream of Freedom'
> by Peter Guralnick
> Back Bay Books, 1999
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Richard Williams wrote:
>
>> Chuck Berry
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> Johnny B-Goode
>> http://youtu.be/rVT65M4mRnM
>>
>> You Can't Catch Me - 1956
>> http://youtu.be/bcblXxc4oqo
>>
>> Maybellene - 1955
>> http://youtu.be/LvKDr8AgvK8
>>
>> Rock and Roll Music - Toronto, Canada - 1969
>> http://youtu.be/1U_hRhImaBU
>>
>> Nadine
>> http://youtu.be/Cm8ktxzaumg
>>
>> Berry was among the first musicians to be inducted into the Rock and Roll
>> Hall of Fame on its opening in 1986, with the comment that he "laid the
>> groundwork for not only a rock and roll sound but a rock and roll
>> stance."[5] Berry is included in several Rolling Stone "Greatest of All
>> Time" lists, including being ranked fifth on their 2004 list of the 100
>> Greatest Artists of All Time.[6] The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's 500 Songs
>> that Shaped Rock and Roll included three of Chuck Berry's songs: "Johnny B.
>> Goode," "Maybellene," and "Rock and Roll Music."
>>
>> Read more:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Berry
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Richard Williams 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Chrissie Hynde
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>
>>> Back on the Chain Gang - Live in London
>>> http://youtu.be/okvl-9svtS0
>>>
>>> Middle Of The Road - 1984
>>> http://youtu.be/Niz2DuHc5K8
>>>
>>> "The Pretenders are an English-American rock band formed in Hereford,
>>> England, in March 1978. The original band comprised initiator and main
>>> songwriter Chrissie Hynde (lead vocals, rhythm guitar), James
>>> Honeyman-Scott (lead guitar, backing vocals, keyboards), Pete Farndon (bass
>>> guitar, backing vocals), and Martin Chambers (drums, backing vocals,
>>> percussion)."
>>>
>>> Read more:
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pretenders
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Richard Williams 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Cream

 [image: Inline image 1]

 Cream Live in the Royal Albert Hall Part 1:
 http://youtu.be/nIKfECOE7GI


 [image: Inline image 2]

 "Along with the Beatles, they gave those of us entering the business at
 that time something to aspire to that wasn't pop but was still popular."

 Rolling Stone List of 100 Greatest Artists of All Time:

 http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-artists-of-all-time-19691231/cream-20110420

 "Cream are widely regarded as being the world's first successful
 supergroup."

 Cream:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cream_%28band%29


 On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Rich

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re. Get your Ducks in a Row

[Share Long]

dear Mike, Happy New Year to you and your critters! Now could you please define 
*last word?!*





On Thursday, January 2, 2014 9:04 AM, Mike Dixon  wrote:
 
  
I think we should all take bets on who gets the last word in on this one! LOL!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[Share Long]

Ok, Richard and Judy, based on this painting, I wonder if Jesus rose THROUGH 
the stone, but nekkid. Three beings were there on the outside. They helped him 
move the stone so he could retrieve his garments. Then the three men fell 
asleep, they were so tired from moving that rock! What do you all think?





On Thursday, January 2, 2014 7:46 AM, "authfri...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
<< Richard, I haven't really thought about it much til now! But now thinking 
about it, maybe Jesus rose body and soul THROUGH the stone on top of his crypt. 
And that's why he was nekkid. The cloth couldn't make it through the stone! >>





Hans Multscher, 1437

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Holding back

[steve.sundur]

The reality of my skiing is that "I'm not as good as I once was, but I'm as 
good once, as I ever was", and because of that I have more time to spend doing 
other things.  That translates into two days out of five skiing.
 

 So, the wife and I decided to spend a day walking around Aspen and visiting 
some of the art galleries as we've always wanted to do, sans kids.
 

 And really, some of the stuff is priced so high, that you don't really want to 
go in, unless it looks really interesting, or you feel they might have 
something you could afford to buy.
 

 It so happens that the first gallery we went into had some nice pieces.  Of 
course the pricing was still a little too high, although we had a budget of 
around $2,000.00, so we weren't just only browsing.  The asking price on the 
three pieces we wanted was around $3,500.00.
 

 We eventually settled on $2,450.00, and feel we really enhanced our little 
place out there.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Secret Doctrines

[Richard J. Williams]

On 12/31/2013 10:35 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 > Back to the usual clap-trap.
 >
Without enlightenment, there's no Buddha. Without Buddha, there's no 
Buddhism. You're not even making any sense, Bill.

The historical Buddha wrote nothing, and the language that he spoke is 
no longer extant. This being the case, a person such as yourself could 
hardly know what the Buddha taught about much of anything about ay 
secret doctrines. Apparently you can't even understand any Tibetan. Go 
figure.

However, based on the research of learned scholars such as Robert 
Thurman, we can infer that the Buddha maintained a strict silence on the 
matters of the first cause. Not for nothing did they call the Buddha the 
Shakya the Muni,  "the silent sage" of the Shakya clan. It's just not 
enough to declare all the historians to be "clap-trap". You've got to at 
least makes sense if you are going to participate in a discussion about 
the historical Buddha.

[FairfieldLife] Re. Get your Ducks in a Row

[Mike Dixon]

I think we should all take bets on who gets the last word in on this one! LOL!

[FairfieldLife] RE: Rare video of Judy reacting to Share and Richard getting attention

[awoelflebater]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHWsCy8u_0Y#t=33 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHWsCy8u_0Y#t=33http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHWsCy8u_0Y#t=33
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHWsCy8u_0Y#t=33 
 

 Rare footage of Richard and Share, in costume:
 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnkefjCES-4 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnkefjCES-4





 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: MMY's Adwaita

[Richard J. Williams]

On 1/1/2014 12:16 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 > The doctrine of the Trinity was decided by decree
 > not by philosophic analysis.
 >
It looks like maybe you lost your train of thought. What wouldit take to 
get you to say on topic?

Traditional Advaita, as taught by the Adi Shankaracharya, has sadhana 
requirements. Not everyone will be accepted into the Saraswati Order. 
Most people won't have access to the initiation performed for the 
sannyasins of the Saraswati tradition. Ramana Maharshi changed all that 
- he established the Direct Path teachings. He taught that Realization 
is open to everyone, and that a long series of preparatory studies was 
not a requirement that the non-dual Reality be realized. MMY seems to 
agree with much that Ramana Maharshi has said, as do Poonja, 
Nisargadatta Maharaj, Papaji, Atmananda Krishna Menon, Swami 
Chinmayananda, and Ramesh Balsekar.

However, although the Shankaracharya renunciates adhere to the Advairta 
Vedanta, at the same time they all worship the Divine Mother - Sri 
Vidya, and that is why they are termed Saraswati. They are Sri Vidya 
proponents who follow Shankaracharya's Advaita Vedanta.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Gallup: Only 5% of Religious Americans Are Non-Christians

[Mike Dixon]

Unless Gallup is intentionally trying to deceive the public, it sounds like 3/4 
of all Americans identified *themselves*, not their families, as Christian. To 
what degree they practice their faith is anyone's guess. The same goes for any 
other religion and it's adherents.

From: Bhairitu 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Gallup: Only 5% of Religious Americans Are 
Non-Christians

  
Depends on what questions they asked, doesn't it?  If they asked me if I was 
from a "Christian family" about the only thing I could say was my maternal 
grandmother was a Methodist and attended church.  The rest of us just said 
"meh."On 12/31/2013 05:06 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
  
>A recent Gallup poll refutes the claim made by Barack Obama on March 9, 2008 
>that “we are no longer a Christian nation.”
>
>
>Gallup found that three quarters of all Americans - a supermajority - identify 
>themselves as Christians, with only five percent saying they are practicing 
>members of a non-Christian faith.
>
>
>http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/gallup-only-5-religious-americans-are-non-christians

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: MMY's Adwaita

[Richard J. Williams]

On 12/31/2013 10:30 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:

 > Yes, but the Christian theologians were indebted to the Neoplatonists,
 > especially the divine Plotinus and Iamblichus.
 >
Not sure what this has to do with MMY's Adwaita. There's no "trinity" in 
Adwaita. Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[awoelflebater]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small space of air 
beneath his feat*? Would it not be possible for Him to walk, not appear to walk 
but actually make contact with the earth? I would think that if you can create 
the world, including being able to raise yourself from death, you could at 
least walk with your feet on the ground.

 

 
From: Richard J. Williams 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

   On 1/1/2014 5:44 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:

> One account of some of the first people to see Christ after
> resurrection said that they were walking towards Galilee and
> someone joined them on their walk and it turned out to be
> Jesus. So, I guess He did do some walking.
>
Sure, the Christ could appear to be walking if he wanted to. According 
to early Gnostic writings, Jesus could appear to be doing lots of 
things. The key word here is "appeared" to be walking. Every Gnostic 
knows that Jesus' body was an apparition body. So, it might have 
appeared that Jesus was walking, even moon-walking, but there must have 
been a small space of air beneath his feet. This small space of air 
under his feet is like a foam mattress in the Yogic Flying program - 
it's like a spring board for launching.

Were you thinking that Jesus had to grunt, and bow and scrape to get off 
the ground?
 

 You mean like the "Yogic Flyers"?

> I guess she was on his level, the ground, not in the air
> because she was instructed not to cling to him. unless of
> course she was hovering as well when she first saw Him.
>
Of course Jesus was on Mary's level - would you hover ABOVE your 
girlfriend when you flew in to see her? Go figure.


 


 






 

[FairfieldLife] RE: Holding back

[awoelflebater]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 I've just been reading through them, and I think he is a really funny guy.  
 

 I agree if you think being (profoundly) intellectually insecure is humorous. 

 

 Thanks Bob - I've been wondering what the hell his driver is.

 

 Hey Doc, Happy New Year. Yes, hit the sales for your wife. Although shopping 
can be a nightmare stick to the nice little independent stores that you can 
walk to. That is my advice for an enjoyable way to pick things that are more 
individual and unique. 
 

 As far as Ricky is concerned I think he has a few "drivers" none of which 
we'll ever really know. But it is interesting that Steve thinks it is Judy who 
is guilty of "Parsing something into idiocy...". She already clearly said she 
is engaging in this thread about Mary and the "risen" Christ to illustrate how 
Richard conducts himself here. But, I don't want to get you "involved" it was 
just an observation! Keep composing and doing all the wonderful things you 
appear to do - in 2014. And do stick around.You are one of my bright spots here.

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[Mike Dixon]

Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small space of air 
beneath his feat*? Would it not be possible for Him to walk, not appear to walk 
but actually make contact with the earth? I would think that if you can create 
the world, including being able to raise yourself from death, you could at 
least walk with your feet on the ground.


From: Richard J. Williams 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

  
On 1/1/2014 5:44 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:

> One account of some of the first people to see Christ after
> resurrection said that they were walking towards Galilee and
> someone joined them on their walk and it turned out to be
> Jesus. So, I guess He did do some walking.
>
Sure, the Christ could appear to be walking if he wanted to. According 
to early Gnostic writings, Jesus could appear to be doing lots of 
things. The key word here is "appeared" to be walking. Every Gnostic 
knows that Jesus' body was an apparition body. So, it might have 
appeared that Jesus was walking, even moon-walking, but there must have 
been a small space of air beneath his feet. This small space of air 
under his feet is like a foam mattress in the Yogic Flying program - 
it's like a spring board for launching.

Were you thinking that Jesus had to grunt, and bow and scrape to get off 
the ground?

> I guess she was on his level, the ground, not in the air
> because she was instructed not to cling to him. unless of
> course she was hovering as well when she first saw Him.
>
Of course Jesus was on Mary's level - would you hover ABOVE your 
girlfriend when you flew in to see her? Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[authfriend]

Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you know.

 > Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection,
 > as you know.You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene was a witness to the 
 > resurrection - she 
 was the first to realize that Jesus had risen from the tomb and that 
 Jesus was the Christ. Mary was there, the first, she saw it with her own 
 eyes, she experienced it in her heart, and then she told the apostles 
 what had happened to Jesus - that he was raised from the dead and that 
 he had flown out of the tomb up into the air and then he flew off to 
 appear before the others. That's what I think. Most Christian agree with 
 me - nobody agrees with your outrageous and false claims. NOBODY. 
 Everyone on this list thinks you are lying about the Bible. EVERYONE. 
 You can't even read any Greek!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[authfriend]

> Next time you're talking about what the Bible says, Richard,
 > when you add something you made up out of your own head that
 > isn't in the Bible at all, it would be good if you'd say so.
 >
 << Let's get this on record, Ms Stein -it was YOU that cited the Bible in 
 defense of your outrageous and false claims about the Resurrection and 
 the Ascension. >>
 

 Which "outrageous and false claims" were these? Please be specific.
 

 << You need to get your ducks in a row. And maybe take a 
 Sunday Bible Class at a church somewhere. Did you ever consider taking a 
 history course at a community college? Apparently you don't even have a 
 pastor! Go figure. >>
 
Actually, as you know, it's not necessary to take Bible classes or history 
courses or to have a pastor to know what's in the Bible.

<< According to Paul, the Christ hovered up in the air above 500 
 eye-witnesses. Haven't you even read Pauls letter to the Corinthians? >>
 

 Paul doesn't say anything about Christ "hovering up in the air" above the 500 
eyewitnesses, as you know. He just says Christ appeared to them.
 

 

 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[Richard J. Williams]

On 1/1/2014 4:52 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

 > Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection,
 > as you know.
 >
You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene was a witness to the resurrection - she 
was the first to realize that Jesus had risen from the tomb and that 
Jesus was the Christ. Mary was there, the first, she saw it with her own 
eyes, she experienced it in her heart, and then she told the apostles 
what had happened to Jesus - that he was raised from the dead and that 
he had flown out of the tomb up into the air and then he flew off to 
appear before the others. That's what I think. Most Christian agree with 
me - nobody agrees with your outrageous and false claims. NOBODY. 
Everyone on this list thinks you are lying about the Bible. EVERYONE. 
You can't even read any Greek!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[Richard J. Williams]

On 1/1/2014 4:38 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

 > Next time you're talking about what the Bible says, Richard,
 > when you add something you made up out of your own head that
 > isn't in the Bible at all, it would be good if you'd say so.
 >
Let's get this on record, Ms Stein -it was YOU that cited the Bible in 
defense of your outrageous and false claims about the Resurrection and 
the Ascension. You need to get your ducks in a row. And maybe take a 
Sunday Bible Class at a church somewhere. Did you ever consider taking a 
history course at a community college? Apparently you don't even have a 
pastor! Go figure.

According to Paul, the Christ hovered up in the air above 500 
eye-witnesses. Haven't you even read Pauls letter to the Corinthians?

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[authfriend]

Never a "fundie" in terms of anything but Maharishi's teaching on the nature 
and mechanics of consciousness. And I don't believe I ever said anything about 
"flying around the room with arms flailing." That would have been odd indeed 
since I repeatedly pointed out that nothing except hopping had been 
demonstrated.
 

 Finally, for folks who haven't been reading my exchange with Richard, I've 
never said "Christian saints or angels" couldn't fly; all I've said is that the 
Bible doesn't say anything about Jesus being "up in the air" after his 
resurrection (until the Ascension 40 days later).
 

 Richard knows all this; he's trolling and lying.
 

 << Judy is what used to be called a TMer "fundie" on Google Groups. For 

 years over there she defended MMY's Yogic Flying program. I can cite 
 hundreds of messages posted by Judy discussing the foam slab, the 
 grunting, the hopping, lift off, hovering, and the flying around the 
 room with arms flailing. But when it comes to discussing Christian 
 saints or angels flying, she is in complete denial. Go figure. >>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[Richard J. Williams]

On 1/1/2014 5:44 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:

 > One account of some of the first people to see Christ after
 > resurrection said that they were walking towards Galilee and
 > someone joined them on their walk and it turned out to be
 > Jesus. So, I guess He did do some walking.
 >
Sure, the Christ could appear to be walking if he wanted to. According 
to early Gnostic writings, Jesus could appear to be doing lots of 
things. The key word here is "appeared" to be walking. Every Gnostic 
knows that Jesus' body was an apparition body. So, it might have 
appeared that Jesus was walking, even moon-walking, but there must have 
been a small space of air beneath his feet. This small space of air 
under his feet is like a foam mattress in the Yogic Flying program - 
it's like a spring board for launching.

Were you thinking that Jesus had to grunt, and bow and scrape to get off 
the ground?

 > I guess she was on his level, the ground, not in the air
 >   because she was instructed not to cling to him. unless of
 > course she was hovering as well when she first saw Him.
 >
Of course Jesus was on Mary's level - would you hover ABOVE your 
girlfriend when you flew in to see her? Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Get Your Ducks in a Row

[Richard J. Williams]

On 1/1/2014 6:10 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:

 > ...you continually show an extreme amount of intolerance, 
judgementalness,
 > (if that's a word), and narrow mindedness.
 >
Judy is what used to be called a TMer "fundie" on Google Groups. For 
years over there she defended MMY's Yogic Flying program. I can cite 
hundreds of messages posted by Judy discussing the foam slab, the 
grunting, the hopping, lift off, hovering, and the flying around the 
room with arms flailing. But when it comes to discussing Christian 
saints or angels flying, she is in complete denial. Go figure.

 > But in your mind, it's called "The Truth", so, no worries.
 >
Judy doesn't believe the Bible scriptures; Judy doesn't believe in the 
Yoga scriptures. Judy believes in Judy - whatever she says is the truth; 
not some first person accounts written by conservative Christians or 
conservative Hindus. And, certainly she does not believe a guy from 
Texas. I mean, what would a guy from Texas named Williams know about the 
Bible or the resurrection?