[FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, The mere act of casting your horoscope does not collapse or manifest all of the realm of possibilities for you. The horoscope is an ancient device to ascertain the potential of the person in this lifetime. As such, it can be considered an advanced holographic device which ascertains the possibilities and quantum events that a person will encounter during a specific time period. It can also be considered a vague, random shot in the dark with just enough choices that any hits can be described later on as being amazingly accurate.. The desired potential quantum events for the individual will only manifest or collapse depending on the actions taken by the individual. For example, if you bought a lottery ticket, then your chances of winning the grand prize are much greater than if you had not bought the ticket at all. LOL, you are truly a wonder! Nonetheless, the objective of jyotish is not to win a lottery grand prize. It is to understand yourself and potential better in the scheme of world and cosmic events. As such, one can be more creative, more productive, and more successful in one's endeavors or actions. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : This week saw the end of the period that a jyotishee told me that I would win a lot of money. It didn't happen. That isn't the surprising bit to me - it's a chance game really, look at the odds of winning the premium bonds or the lottery and divide it between the number of years you are likely to live and the likelihood becomes obvious. But it would have been an interesting demonstration of super powers. No, the reason I think astrology must be rubbish is that within the promise of me winning there has to be a change in how all future horoscopes are drawn up from my birth chart. For instance, if I suddenly acquired millions of pounds would I live in the same house or buy a yatch and moor it in some secluded harbour in Italy? I think we all know the answer to that, so any future predictions must take into account the sort of lifestyle problems or advances I would have to endure with my many houses and supermodel girlfriends etc. Here's the problem, the future stretches in front of us like a cone of possibilities, today there are several things I could do and tomorrow there are many more options precisely because of the options from today multiply with increased options of thier own tomorrow. And so on exponentially. The trouble for astrology is that winning a lot of money or not will have a large impact on the direction of my future cone of possibilities. It collapses a waveform for my future life that hasn't happened. So if my horoscope continues to make predictions on its apparent assumption that I'm now a multi-millionaire there are going to be discrepancies between prediction and events. For instance, I'm going to buy a new pair of shoes this week, if there was a parallel universe with me as a rich man I would have some made for me, probably at some legendary cobblers in Milan (they probably don't call them that there though). The longer it goes on the worse it gets. If any prediction made by an astrologer fails to come true then at some point you'll be scratching your head when Mystic Meg says that the dinner with royalty would be a good time to show off you new watch when you're sitting at home warming beans over a candle. I know it all sounds like it could be squeezed into mere trends but they do stack up, astrology's only hope at retaining credibility in the long term is to keep it vague enough that all options sound like they were being predicted. This might work with shoes or where to have dinner but what about the choice of kings or presidents, or advances in science or banking? This must be why everyone is always so cagey about specifics. Do we know deep down that future predictions will be seen as clearly malfunctioning if the cone of possibilities predicts a left wing president and someone looks further into the future and sees that the poor are being shovelled into furnaces to heat Wall st? We can't have both realities so maybe that's why no one ever goes on record with anything definite, apart from my guy and because of it I'm going to have to endure inaccurate predictions forever, there really isn't any way it could make sense for me now without someone explaining how they fooled reality. So before a prediction is made - this is a quantum world after all - nothing is set and all future possibilities are equally likely until something happens and the waveform collapses (the chart being drawn is a good example) and decides the future direction of the next set of possibilities. Winning money is a chance event so predicting it decides the outcome only if the predictive technology is a one way street into the future. And it clearly isn't or I'd be
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Oh scientist Salyavin Raj, you still didn't answer this question: Without looking them up, do the names Simon, Bretagnon and Chapront mean anything to you? Are they a folk singing trio? They'd be better off singing folk songs if they think the position of Jupiter has anything to do with my personality. Otherwise I'll just keep you seated in the peanut gallery. :-D I'm happier up there if the people on the stage are charlatans. I used to know how to draw up horoscopes, I did it the old way with an ephemeris and set of logarithmic tables. The maths is way complicated - you're much better off doing it with a computer programme - but it doesn't have to be that hard. The trouble with astrology is that all the positions of planets in their houses assume that the Earth is the centre of the galaxy with everything else revolving around it. This is one of the things that put me off. The other one is that if you do a couple of charts and forget to put the subjects names at the top there isn't any way of working out whose it is. LOL. On 08/04/2014 01:34 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : There are different systems of Jyotish. Some are regional to India. K N Rao explained that many families who practice astrology have secret techniques and he traveled throughout India to learn some of these. Also many village astrologers use simple techniques and yet have good predictions. Anecdotes are not data. You can't expect me to accept people's word on anything especially something as esoteric as planetary influences. If someone told me the world is made up of random particles that act like waves when they aren't being measured but offered no hard proof we'd all laugh yet quantum physics one of the cornerstones of human achievement. It's undeniable but all I get from astrologers is that some types are better than others and predictions aren't to be trusted but I can't see what the point of it might be if it doesn't give you any sort of reliable clues. It ought to be nailed down by now, I think the reason it persists is the same reason religion does, it's a meme that offers comfort. Astrology is a way of linking us to some grand picture and gives life a meaning it didn;'t have before, it must be reassuring but I think we've gone one better in finding out that the atoms we are made of were created inside stars. Generally if you can read a person's past accurately then you can predict on the basis of that those predictions will come true. Hell, I can do that. People are such creatures of habit you don't need Jupiter! It's unexpected things we like a bit of warning about and how is astrology about that? Totally random of course. Except the TM variety that tells you something bad is going to happen and sells you a yagya to prevent it. There should be laws against it. However they should sound more like a weather report as it is an abstract field and not exact. Random patterns will be inexact... Things that are generally false don't tend to get passed down throughout history. Oh I don't know, Christianity seems to be doing OK, amongst other bizarre ideas. The comfort of religious beliefs outweighs the suspicion they may be a load of crap, there are stronger human forces than logic. Astrology will keep going because it offers a lot and people just like it. It has never proved itself scientifically and that is the acid test for it because we humans are great at kidding ourselves, a good experiment can lay bare the truth of that. The only reason we know the earth goes round the sun is because someone tested it, things can hang around if they sound good and will easily resist contrary evidence if the belief is preferable to the ugly truth. So I appreciate the arguments but I remain unconvinced. The proof will be when I win the lottery tomorrow Astrology is NOT one of those things, however. It tends to ring true when properly practiced and science is at a loss to understand why though there is little funding for research into that. I go with the theory that the planets were really used as time markers not for their influence. Only the Sun and Moon have much influence on our lives. And since they couldn't see Neptune and Uranus they couldn't have used them as broader time markers. There was some research a few years ago about the time of day a child is born as well as the time of year. Here I believe that children are like blank slates and out of the womb begin taking in the world which influences their personality as they grow. Their surroundings will also influence their destiny and what obstacles they will find in life. The time of day a child was born would be noted in ancient time by the constellation as a time marker.
[FairfieldLife] The Principles of The Sacred Feminine
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Oh scientist Salyavin Raj, you still didn't answer this question: Without looking them up, do the names Simon, Bretagnon and Chapront mean anything to you? Are they a folk singing trio? They'd be better off singing folk songs if they think the position of Jupiter has anything to do with my personality. Otherwise I'll just keep you seated in the peanut gallery. :-D I'm happier up there if the people on the stage are charlatans. Arguing with people who are heavily invested in charlatanry like astrology is a lot like arguing with religious fanatics, with the sole exception that the astrology fanatics employ suicide bombing as a tactic slightly less often than the religious fanatics. Find someone who is *both* a religious fanatic and an astrologer, however, and all bets are off. Nation Apparently Believed in Science at Some Point Nation Apparently Believed in Science at Some Point Historians studying archival photographs from four decades ago have reached a shocking conclusion. View on www.newyorker.com Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
As I recall it, in the beginning of 2010, Nokia's stock market price was something like 9 euros. Someone set their target in a forum to 14 euros. As I saw the fifth Saturn return of Nokia (born 5/12/1865 in Tampere, Russia [sic!]) approaching, I wrote there's no chance for that before that Saturn return is totally over (the last accurate transit in October 2012). After that (2010) NOK shortly went up to about 11 euros, and started a downward trend that went on to June or July 2012, down to 1.33 euros, after which NOK started slowly going up to about 6 euros where it has been for quite a while now. If I'd believed my own prediction, I might be remarkalby wealthier now... LOL!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : She always mentioned that when visiting her sister there is no Internet. So she may be spending the summer there. Yeah, she'll be back. Probably sharpening her green pen in anticipation of coping with the backlog... Because we all know how important comments and corrections on the Internet are... :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
Or possibly: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : She always mentioned that when visiting her sister there is no Internet. So she may be spending the summer there. Yeah, she'll be back. Probably sharpening her green pen in anticipation of coping with the backlog... Because we all know how important comments and corrections on the Internet are... :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] ISIS, the Unifying Force for Iraq
On 8/4/2014 3:16 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: What if you woke up in the morning and found out that ISIS is nothing more than rebranded Al-Qaeda which is rebranded Mujahadeen and infiltrated, controlled by the CIA? Maybe you'd be on to something. Go figger. So, what if you woke up in the morning and found out that there was a line two blocks long at the local gas station controlled by Mujahadeen CIA operatives? What would you do? 1. Purchase a bicycle. 2. Take the bus to work. 3. Sell your vehicle and buy an electric car. 4. Do nothing - wait in line for hours at a gas station. 5. Send troops into Iraq to route out and kill the ISIS forces. 6. Vote to increase U.S. domestic oil output and to build more fuel refineries. 7. Post to an internet newsgroup a message to alert everyone that the cause of no gasoline was a conspiracy between Mjuahadeen and the CIA. On 08/04/2014 12:23 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: On 8/4/2014 1:03 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: With the successful attacks by the militants in Kurdish lands, the various political forces in Iraq could and should now rally together to get a unified country for the sake of its own existence. If this happens, it would be a victory for Iraq. What if you woke up in the morning and found out that ISIS had taken over Baghdad and the Iraqi oilfields? What if the Iraqi oil supply was interrupted and there was a shortage of oil exports? What if the crises was worse than the 1973-74 OPEC oil embargo? What if there was a world-wide oil shock? What would you do? 1. Purchase a bicycle. 2. Take the bus to work. 3. Sell your vehicle and by an electric car. 4. Do nothing - wait in line for hours at a gas station. 5. Send troops into Iraq to route out and kill the ISIS forces. 6. Vote to increase U.S. domestic oil output and to build more fuel refineries. /...a world oil shock at least equal to the so-called ‘Arab oil embargo’ of 1973-74 in terms of oil export supply cuts from several key regions and producer states – Russia, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen and possibly the GCC Arab Gulf exporters. / 'Oil prices - When ISIS takes Baghdad' http://www.oilvoice.com/n/Oil_prices_When_ISIS_takes_Baghdad/40d31cf76c7b.aspx#gsc.tab=0 It would also be a victory for Obama's foreign policies. Let's find out in the next few weeks. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/04/islamic-state-iraq_n_5647532.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592
Re: [FairfieldLife] Just to make Barry mad
Michael Lerner kind of reminds me of what most African/Americans probably think conservative blacks, like Clarence Thomas, think of them, embarrassed to be one of them. I guess setting aside his own self-preservation and self defense against those that would kill him, without batting an eye, makes him feel holy and compassionate. I could agree with Hamas on one thing, it makes him look like a total fool and idiot. On Monday, August 4, 2014 9:58 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Israel has broken my heart: I’m a rabbi in mourning for a Judaism being murdered by Israel Israel has broken my heart: I’m a rabbi in mourning for ... I've always been proud of Israel, but the brutal Gaza assault requires Jews worldwide to be honest, not nationalist View on www.salon.com Preview by Yahoo From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 4:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Just to make Barry mad And the Hollywood gang really is doing great and having a wonderful summer. (NOT!) The best movies are no longer made in Hollywood. But gotta say ol' Jon does a good job on Lee Donovan. Problem is that ol' Sumner isn't into putting Showtime Anywhere on something you can play on your big screen (like Chromecast). On 08/04/2014 06:58 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Hey, he's an actor so he knows what he is talking about. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jon-voight-pens-letter-ignorant-723007 Jon Voight Pens Letter to 'Ignorant' Javier Bardem, Pene... My name is Jon Voight and I am more than angry, I am heartsick that people like Penelope Cruz and Javier Bardem could incite anti-Semitism all over the wor... View on www.hollywoodreporte... Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
So, it's all about Barry's World. On 8/4/2014 3:27 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: This whole discussion is just text to me. You are all fictional characters — shall I compare you to reality? Now BarryWorld sounds like a great amusement park, at least from the viewpoint of onlookers outside the park. Inside the park, the goal is to get to the other side of the park. After some experimentation, perhaps the filtering algorithm could be adjusted so that, on average, only those with an IQ of, say, 120 would make it to the other side. Designing the 'rides' should be a blast. For example in The Crop Circles of Machiavelli ride, one has to navigate a seemingly endless circular labyrinth of spiritual-political mayhem in order to come out as the leader of other ride participants in your group by convincing them you are an enlightened messiah, that you know the secret knowledge of how to get to the other side of the park. And in order continue that at the next park benchmark, you have to set up a spiritual blockade to prevent as many other ride participants from advancing by creating a new religion that will bamboozle them into giving up independence of thought. In other words BarryWorld is an interactive social experience and each 'ride' allows one to navigate one's internal conceptual world and adapt it to override and overmaster the other participants internal map of reality. The goal is to discover the park's map of reality and make it your own, for if you do not, you cannot make it through. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Sentence of the week: You obviously have a difficult time dealing with that, which doesn't conform to BarryWorld. You watch your medieval fantasies, for hours, in your rented room, absorbed to the point of comparing fictitious characters, to live human beings, and yet it is Lawson, that is, as you so uncontrollably put it, fucking nuts. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : really gets to you, huh? Perhaps time for a walk, dude... You obviously have a difficult time dealing with that, which doesn't conform to BarryWorld. You watch your medieval fantasies, for hours, in your rented room, absorbed to the point of comparing fictitious characters, to live human beings, and yet it is Lawson, that is, as you so uncontrollably put it, fucking nuts. You also claim with no further proof, than your word, that you have personally witnessed, invisibility and levitation, and rooms filled with golden light, and it is, again, Lawson, that is fucking nuts? Well, I am sure that I, along with those on this forum, agree that *someone* is fucking nuts, though I'll let you figure out who it is. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Lawson, I'm sticking with the point I made earlier. You actually seem to believe that you're coming across as rational while accepting Tony Nader as the king of a made-up kingdom that does not exist, except in the minds of a bunch of cultists. You've also presented reasons why this made-up king should be able to pass control of his made-up kingdom to his heirs. I'm merely making the point that all of this is FUCKIN' NUTS. There is no kingdom. There is no king. All of these this is made up, pure fiction. Only fools or cultists would believe in it. Which are you? *From:* LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, August 4, 2014 5:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife In fact, according to what I have heard, Girish Varma attempted to wrest control of the Indian TM organization away from Tony abu Nader, but both sides agreed to let Swami Vasudevananda Saraswati (the Shankaracharya the TM organization recognizes) be the aribrator for the disupute, and after reviewing all the legal documents, SVS sided with Tony abu Nader, so even in India, Good King Tony rules the TM organization, at last officially. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I don't think who controls is that simple - Girish and his cousins the Srivastavas boys have a good deal of control but there are other Marshy family members and hangers on who control a good deal of it, but they give the American contingent a lot of leeway since America has been such a fat cash cow for the Movement. They all give each other some respect since they are all hogs slopping at the same trough. *From:* LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, August 4, 2014 7:27 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife You guys are fond of quoting newspaper articles claiming teh TM organization is worth billions. That's a pretty hefty kingdom, if it really is worth that much, and whoever controls the crown, controls whatever the asserts are wroth. As an aside, anyone ever
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
Ha ha ha! That's a good one Barry! From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 1:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife BarryWorld consists of Barry making posts to amuse himself. It has no other purpose. SpiteWorld seems to be where people who are not amused by his posts choose to live. Some of them seem to be SO not amused lately that they have crossed the line into obsessive hatred. As amusement park rides go, I think mine's a more fun place to live. But FYI, if I had designed BarryWorld only to be navigable by those with an IQ over 120, I wouldn't have bothered to post it to Fairfield Life. :-) From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 4, 2014 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife This whole discussion is just text to me. You are all fictional characters — shall I compare you to reality? Now BarryWorld sounds like a great amusement park, at least from the viewpoint of onlookers outside the park. Inside the park, the goal is to get to the other side of the park. After some experimentation, perhaps the filtering algorithm could be adjusted so that, on average, only those with an IQ of, say, 120 would make it to the other side. Designing the 'rides' should be a blast. For example in The Crop Circles of Machiavelli ride, one has to navigate a seemingly endless circular labyrinth of spiritual-political mayhem in order to come out as the leader of other ride participants in your group by convincing them you are an enlightened messiah, that you know the secret knowledge of how to get to the other side of the park. And in order continue that at the next park benchmark, you have to set up a spiritual blockade to prevent as many other ride participants from advancing by creating a new religion that will bamboozle them into giving up independence of thought. In other words BarryWorld is an interactive social experience and each 'ride' allows one to navigate one's internal conceptual world and adapt it to override and overmaster the other participants internal map of reality. The goal is to discover the park's map of reality and make it your own, for if you do not, you cannot make it through. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Sentence of the week: You obviously have a difficult time dealing with that, which doesn't conform to BarryWorld. You watch your medieval fantasies, for hours, in your rented room, absorbed to the point of comparing fictitious characters, to live human beings, and yet it is Lawson, that is, as you so uncontrollably put it, fucking nuts. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : really gets to you, huh? Perhaps time for a walk, dude... You obviously have a difficult time dealing with that, which doesn't conform to BarryWorld. You watch your medieval fantasies, for hours, in your rented room, absorbed to the point of comparing fictitious characters, to live human beings, and yet it is Lawson, that is, as you so uncontrollably put it, fucking nuts. You also claim with no further proof, than your word, that you have personally witnessed, invisibility and levitation, and rooms filled with golden light, and it is, again, Lawson, that is fucking nuts? Well, I am sure that I, along with those on this forum, agree that *someone* is fucking nuts, though I'll let you figure out who it is. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Lawson, I'm sticking with the point I made earlier. You actually seem to believe that you're coming across as rational while accepting Tony Nader as the king of a made-up kingdom that does not exist, except in the minds of a bunch of cultists. You've also presented reasons why this made-up king should be able to pass control of his made-up kingdom to his heirs. I'm merely making the point that all of this is FUCKIN' NUTS. There is no kingdom. There is no king. All of these this is made up, pure fiction. Only fools or cultists would believe in it. Which are you? From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 4, 2014 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife In fact, according to what I have heard, Girish Varma attempted to wrest control of the Indian TM organization away from Tony abu Nader, but both sides agreed to let Swami Vasudevananda Saraswati (the Shankaracharya the TM organization recognizes) be the aribrator for the disupute, and after reviewing all the legal documents, SVS sided with Tony abu Nader, so even in India, Good King Tony rules the TM organization, at last officially. L
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
I have a friend, let's call him George, who lives here in South Carolina - he's been doni' TM a long time and is a True Believer - he had Pat Heyward there in Fairfield do some jyotish and one of the things Pat once told him was that he had the yagya for getting a chariot or elephant or something like that which George even as a true believer thought was strange, yet in that exact period of a month that the prediction had been for George's daddy (a retired doctor) gave him one of his old cars and it was nicer than any car George had ever owned him being a public school teacher. From that point on you better believe George was sold out on jyotish and Pat Heyward too. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 2:23 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Oh scientist Salyavin Raj, you still didn't answer this question: Without looking them up, do the names Simon, Bretagnon and Chapront mean anything to you? Are they a folk singing trio? They'd be better off singing folk songs if they think the position of Jupiter has anything to do with my personality. Otherwise I'll just keep you seated in the peanut gallery. :-D I'm happier up there if the people on the stage are charlatans. I used to know how to draw up horoscopes, I did it the old way with an ephemeris and set of logarithmic tables. The maths is way complicated - you're much better off doing it with a computer programme - but it doesn't have to be that hard. The trouble with astrology is that all the positions of planets in their houses assume that the Earth is the centre of the galaxy with everything else revolving around it. This is one of the things that put me off. The other one is that if you do a couple of charts and forget to put the subjects names at the top there isn't any way of working out whose it is. LOL. On 08/04/2014 01:34 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : There are different systems of Jyotish. Some are regional to India. K N Rao explained that many families who practice astrology have secret techniques and he traveled throughout India to learn some of these. Also many village astrologers use simple techniques and yet have good predictions. Anecdotes are not data. You can't expect me to accept people's word on anything especially something as esoteric as planetary influences. If someone told me the world is made up of random particles that act like waves when they aren't being measured but offered no hard proof we'd all laugh yet quantum physics one of the cornerstones of human achievement. It's undeniable but all I get from astrologers is that some types are better than others and predictions aren't to be trusted but I can't see what the point of it might be if it doesn't give you any sort of reliable clues. It ought to be nailed down by now, I think the reason it persists is the same reason religion does, it's a meme that offers comfort. Astrology is a way of linking us to some grand picture and gives life a meaning it didn;'t have before, it must be reassuring but I think we've gone one better in finding out that the atoms we are made of were created inside stars. Generally if you can read a person's past accurately then you can predict on the basis of that those predictions will come true. Hell, I can do that. People are such creatures of habit you don't need Jupiter! It's unexpected things we like a bit of warning about and how is astrology about that? Totally random of course. Except the TM variety that tells you something bad is going to happen and sells you a yagya to prevent it. There should be laws against it. However they should sound more like a weather report as it is an abstract field and not exact. Random patterns will be inexact... Things that are generally false don't tend to get passed down throughout history. Oh I don't know, Christianity seems to be doing OK, amongst other bizarre ideas. The comfort of religious beliefs outweighs the suspicion they may be a load of crap, there are stronger human forces than logic. Astrology will keep going because it offers a lot and people just like it. It has never proved itself scientifically and that is the acid test for it because we humans are great at kidding ourselves, a good experiment can lay bare the truth of that. The only reason we know the earth goes round the sun is because someone tested it, things can hang around if they sound good and will easily resist contrary evidence if the belief is preferable to the ugly truth. So I appreciate the arguments but I remain unconvinced. The proof will be when I win the lottery tomorrow Astrology is NOT one of those things, however. It tends to ring true when properly practiced and science is at a loss to understand why
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
Ahem. *Someone* should point out that what Lawson posted below is neither fact nor factoid, just a bunch of hearsay presented without any documentation whatsoever. It's a CLAIM. There is not a single reference, not a single quote from anyone, nothing that can be verified. And yet the people piling on as if Lawson had won some imagined battle by making this unsubstantiated claim accept this CLAIM as if it's Truth Incarnate, simply because it perpetuates their own long-held cult beliefs. Odd group, if you ask me. One guy believes that King Tony really IS a king, It shouldn't take a genius to realize that Barry is the guy living in a Kingdom of Netherlands. You just can't make this stuff up. The gift that keeps on giving. On 8/4/2014 9:11 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sometimes you hit the jackpot, Ricardo. What if you woke up in the morning and found out that an anonymous informant had taken over the whole newsgroup, planting false flags and trying to stir up trouble by talking about other people's wives and their private sex life? What if you found out that the informant was working for a science magazine and then reporting back to himself?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Just to make Barry mad
Never pass up a tragic situation if you think it can be used to help you win a religious debate. On 8/4/2014 8:58 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Hey, he's an actor so he knows what he is talking about. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jon-voight-pens-letter-ignorant-723007 image http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jon-voight-pens-letter-ignorant-723007 Jon Voight Pens Letter to 'Ignorant' Javier Bardem, Pene... http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jon-voight-pens-letter-ignorant-723007 My name is Jon Voight and I am more than angry, I am heartsick that people like Penelope Cruz and Javier Bardem could incite anti-Semitism all over the wor... View on www.hollywoodreporte... http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jon-voight-pens-letter-ignorant-723007 Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors
An Outsider's View of How to Calm Middle East-Gaza Tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension
Re: [FairfieldLife] Just to make Barry mad
Never pass up a tragedy if you think it will help you win a religious debate. On 8/4/2014 11:58 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Israel has broken my heart: I’m a rabbi in mourning for a Judaism being murdered by Israel http://www.salon.com/2014/08/04/israel_has_broken_my_heart_i%E2%80%99m_a_rabbi_in_mourning_for_a_judaism_being_murdered_by_israel/ image http://www.salon.com/2014/08/04/israel_has_broken_my_heart_i%E2%80%99m_a_rabbi_in_mourning_for_a_judaism_being_murdered_by_israel/ Israel has broken my heart: I’m a rabbi in mourning for ... http://www.salon.com/2014/08/04/israel_has_broken_my_heart_i%E2%80%99m_a_rabbi_in_mourning_for_a_judaism_being_murdered_by_israel/ I've always been proud of Israel, but the brutal Gaza assault requires Jews worldwide to be honest, not nationalist View on www.salon.com http://www.salon.com/2014/08/04/israel_has_broken_my_heart_i%E2%80%99m_a_rabbi_in_mourning_for_a_judaism_being_murdered_by_israel/ Preview by Yahoo *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2014 4:25 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Just to make Barry mad And the Hollywood gang really is doing great and having a wonderful summer. (NOT!) The best movies are no longer made in Hollywood. But gotta say ol' Jon does a good job on Lee Donovan. Problem is that ol' Sumner isn't into putting Showtime Anywhere on something you can play on your big screen (like Chromecast). On 08/04/2014 06:58 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com mailto:mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Hey, he's an actor so he knows what he is talking about. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jon-voight-pens-letter-ignorant-723007 image http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jon-voight-pens-letter-ignorant-723007 Jon Voight Pens Letter to 'Ignorant' Javier Bardem, Pene... http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jon-voight-pens-letter-ignorant-723007 My name is Jon Voight and I am more than angry, I am heartsick that people like Penelope Cruz and Javier Bardem could incite anti-Semitism all over the wor... View on www.hollywoodreporte... http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jon-voight-pens-letter-ignorant-723007 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : BarryWorld consists of Barry making posts to amuse himself. It has no other purpose. Don't let the your lurking employers hear you say that, they might consider a cut in your pay. Don't forget, you're working for them, not for your own amusement, let's get serious here. SpiteWorld seems to be where people who are not amused by his posts choose to live. Some of them seem to be SO not amused lately that they have crossed the line into obsessive hatred. Obsessive hatred would indicate I put energy into thinking about you which is not the case. When I happen to stumble over your self-obsessed posts then I generally remember you exist. As amusement park rides go, I think mine's a more fun place to live. This is self evident. But FYI, if I had designed BarryWorld only to be navigable by those with an IQ over 120, I wouldn't have bothered to post it to Fairfield Life. :-) As a prerequisite you'd have to possess an IQ over 120. From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 4, 2014 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife This whole discussion is just text to me. You are all fictional characters — shall I compare you to reality? Now BarryWorld sounds like a great amusement park, at least from the viewpoint of onlookers outside the park. Inside the park, the goal is to get to the other side of the park. After some experimentation, perhaps the filtering algorithm could be adjusted so that, on average, only those with an IQ of, say, 120 would make it to the other side. Designing the 'rides' should be a blast. For example in The Crop Circles of Machiavelli ride, one has to navigate a seemingly endless circular labyrinth of spiritual-political mayhem in order to come out as the leader of other ride participants in your group by convincing them you are an enlightened messiah, that you know the secret knowledge of how to get to the other side of the park. And in order continue that at the next park benchmark, you have to set up a spiritual blockade to prevent as many other ride participants from advancing by creating a new religion that will bamboozle them into giving up independence of thought. In other words BarryWorld is an interactive social experience and each 'ride' allows one to navigate one's internal conceptual world and adapt it to override and overmaster the other participants internal map of reality. The goal is to discover the park's map of reality and make it your own, for if you do not, you cannot make it through.
[FairfieldLife] For the Turq and his Superiors: You Ain't Going Nowhere
THE BYRDS - You Ain't Going Nowhere (1968) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q21BF38W3Gs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q21BF38W3Gs THE BYRDS - You Ain't Going Nowhere (1968) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q21BF38W3Gs PBAD. 9-28-68 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q21BF38W3Gs Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors
As we know the Turq already monitors blogs and press-releases to find news about the TMO. To help him I will post news for him to forward to his superiors: New MS in Maharishi AyurVeda and Integrative Medicine Begins This Fall Online http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?ca=9015c2c1-e103-4249-85a3-ab14b9e340fac=b2693500-b131-11e3-a191-d4ae52844390ch=b34934c0-b131-11e3-a308-d4ae52844390 http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?ca=9015c2c1-e103-4249-85a3-ab14b9e340fac=b2693500-b131-11e3-a191-d4ae52844390ch=b34934c0-b131-11e3-a308-d4ae52844390 New MS in Maharishi AyurVeda and Integrative ... http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?ca=9015c2c1-e103-4249-85a3-ab14b9e340fac=b2693500-b131-11e3-a191-d4ae52844390ch=b34934c0-b131-11e3-a308-d4ae52844390 Keith Wallace, PhD, co-director of the MS in Maharishi AyurVeda and Integrative Medicine Paul Morehead, PhD, main instructor for the online program View on campaign.r20.constan... http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?ca=9015c2c1-e103-4249-85a3-ab14b9e340fac=b2693500-b131-11e3-a191-d4ae52844390ch=b34934c0-b131-11e3-a308-d4ae52844390 Preview by Yahoo New MS in Maharishi AyurVeda and Integrative Medicine Begins This Fall Online
[FairfieldLife] For the Turq and his Superiors
Jerry Seinfeld Describes Transcendental Meditation Jerry Seinfeld Describes Transcendental Meditation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maGJEKf93EE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maGJEKf93EE Jerry Seinfeld Describes Transcendental Meditation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maGJEKf93EE http://TM.org A clip from Jerry Seinfeld opening the show at the David Lynch Foundation's 5th Annual Change Begins Within Gala (on December 3rd, 2013). ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maGJEKf93EE Preview by Yahoo The Domino Effect on Transcendental Meditation The Domino Effect on Transcendental Meditation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rOtpfTL5E0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rOtpfTL5E0 The Domino Effect on Transcendental Meditation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rOtpfTL5E0 This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rOtpfTL5E0 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
On 8/5/2014 12:11 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: BarryWorld consists of Barry making posts to amuse himself. It has no other purpose. What if you woke up in the morning and found out that an anonymous informant was planting false flags and trying to stir up trouble by talking about other people's wives and their private sex life? What if you found out that a FFL informant was working for a science magazine and reporting back to himself? What would you think? 1. That he is a paid informant. 2. That he is taking notes to be used in an expose book. 3. That he works for his family who are ex-military with government contacts. 4. That he is an agent working for reporters who are writing newspaper and magazine articles. 5. That he is nuts. 6. The the guy has lots of free time on his hands. 7. That some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to. 8. None of the above. SpiteWorld seems to be where people who are not amused by his posts choose to live. Some of them seem to be SO not amused lately that they have crossed the line into obsessive hatred. As amusement park rides go, I think mine's a more fun place to live. But FYI, if I had designed BarryWorld only to be navigable by those with an IQ over 120, I wouldn't have bothered to post it to Fairfield Life. :-) *From:* anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, August 4, 2014 10:27 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife This whole discussion is just text to me. You are all fictional characters — shall I compare you to reality? Now BarryWorld sounds like a great amusement park, at least from the viewpoint of onlookers outside the park. Inside the park, the goal is to get to the other side of the park. After some experimentation, perhaps the filtering algorithm could be adjusted so that, on average, only those with an IQ of, say, 120 would make it to the other side. Designing the 'rides' should be a blast. For example in The Crop Circles of Machiavelli ride, one has to navigate a seemingly endless circular labyrinth of spiritual-political mayhem in order to come out as the leader of other ride participants in your group by convincing them you are an enlightened messiah, that you know the secret knowledge of how to get to the other side of the park. And in order continue that at the next park benchmark, you have to set up a spiritual blockade to prevent as many other ride participants from advancing by creating a new religion that will bamboozle them into giving up independence of thought. In other words BarryWorld is an interactive social experience and each 'ride' allows one to navigate one's internal conceptual world and adapt it to override and overmaster the other participants internal map of reality. The goal is to discover the park's map of reality and make it your own, for if you do not, you cannot make it through. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Sentence of the week: You obviously have a difficult time dealing with that, which doesn't conform to BarryWorld. You watch your medieval fantasies, for hours, in your rented room, absorbed to the point of comparing fictitious characters, to live human beings, and yet it is Lawson, that is, as you so uncontrollably put it, fucking nuts. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : really gets to you, huh? Perhaps time for a walk, dude... You obviously have a difficult time dealing with that, which doesn't conform to BarryWorld. You watch your medieval fantasies, for hours, in your rented room, absorbed to the point of comparing fictitious characters, to live human beings, and yet it is Lawson, that is, as you so uncontrollably put it, fucking nuts. You also claim with no further proof, than your word, that you have personally witnessed, invisibility and levitation, and rooms filled with golden light, and it is, again, Lawson, that is fucking nuts? Well, I am sure that I, along with those on this forum, agree that *someone* is fucking nuts, though I'll let you figure out who it is. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Lawson, I'm sticking with the point I made earlier. You actually seem to believe that you're coming across as rational while accepting Tony Nader as the king of a made-up kingdom that does not exist, except in the minds of a bunch of cultists. You've also presented reasons why this made-up king should be able to pass control of his made-up kingdom to his heirs. I'm merely making the point that all of this is FUCKIN' NUTS. There is no kingdom. There is no king. All of these this is made up, pure fiction. Only fools or cultists would believe in it. Which are you? *From:* LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Ahem. *Someone* should point out that what Lawson posted below is neither fact nor factoid, just a bunch of hearsay presented without any documentation whatsoever. It's a CLAIM. There is not a single reference, not a single quote from anyone, nothing that can be verified. And yet the people piling on as if Lawson had won some imagined battle by making this unsubstantiated claim accept this CLAIM as if it's Truth Incarnate, simply because it perpetuates their own long-held cult beliefs. Odd group, if you ask me. One guy believes that King Tony really IS a king, It shouldn't take a genius to realize that Barry is the guy living in a Kingdom of Netherlands. You just can't make this stuff up. The gift that keeps on giving. On 8/4/2014 9:11 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sometimes you hit the jackpot, Ricardo. What if you woke up in the morning and found out that an anonymous informant had taken over the whole newsgroup, planting false flags and trying to stir up trouble by talking about other people's wives and their private sex life? What if you found out that the informant was working for a science magazine and then reporting back to himself? Well, it would explain why bawee appears to be a freak of nature, not a real red-blooded human at all. The more I read what he posts here the more I am convinced he might be some programmed robot-type experimental entity created by those who are interested in real red-blooded human beings' reactions to the crap he posts here. Unfortunately, often it seems like the programming hits a snag where this bawee entity keeps repeating and repeating itself, if not in actual duplicate sentences then in memes. The robot needs a tune up or some re-booting or some new software or something.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
On 8/5/2014 7:50 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Ha ha ha! That's a good one Barry! It sure is, considering that you apparently you don't realize that the joke is on you. P.S. Speaking of IQs - have you ever considered snipping and using something other than Yahoo Neo to read and post your replies? Go figure. *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2014 1:11 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife BarryWorld consists of Barry making posts to amuse himself. It has no other purpose. SpiteWorld seems to be where people who are not amused by his posts choose to live. Some of them seem to be SO not amused lately that they have crossed the line into obsessive hatred. As amusement park rides go, I think mine's a more fun place to live. But FYI, if I had designed BarryWorld only to be navigable by those with an IQ over 120, I wouldn't have bothered to post it to Fairfield Life. :-) *From:* anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, August 4, 2014 10:27 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife This whole discussion is just text to me. You are all fictional characters — shall I compare you to reality? Now BarryWorld sounds like a great amusement park, at least from the viewpoint of onlookers outside the park. Inside the park, the goal is to get to the other side of the park. After some experimentation, perhaps the filtering algorithm could be adjusted so that, on average, only those with an IQ of, say, 120 would make it to the other side. Designing the 'rides' should be a blast. For example in The Crop Circles of Machiavelli ride, one has to navigate a seemingly endless circular labyrinth of spiritual-political mayhem in order to come out as the leader of other ride participants in your group by convincing them you are an enlightened messiah, that you know the secret knowledge of how to get to the other side of the park. And in order continue that at the next park benchmark, you have to set up a spiritual blockade to prevent as many other ride participants from advancing by creating a new religion that will bamboozle them into giving up independence of thought. In other words BarryWorld is an interactive social experience and each 'ride' allows one to navigate one's internal conceptual world and adapt it to override and overmaster the other participants internal map of reality. The goal is to discover the park's map of reality and make it your own, for if you do not, you cannot make it through. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Sentence of the week: You obviously have a difficult time dealing with that, which doesn't conform to BarryWorld. You watch your medieval fantasies, for hours, in your rented room, absorbed to the point of comparing fictitious characters, to live human beings, and yet it is Lawson, that is, as you so uncontrollably put it, fucking nuts. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : really gets to you, huh? Perhaps time for a walk, dude... You obviously have a difficult time dealing with that, which doesn't conform to BarryWorld. You watch your medieval fantasies, for hours, in your rented room, absorbed to the point of comparing fictitious characters, to live human beings, and yet it is Lawson, that is, as you so uncontrollably put it, fucking nuts. You also claim with no further proof, than your word, that you have personally witnessed, invisibility and levitation, and rooms filled with golden light, and it is, again, Lawson, that is fucking nuts? Well, I am sure that I, along with those on this forum, agree that *someone* is fucking nuts, though I'll let you figure out who it is. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Lawson, I'm sticking with the point I made earlier. You actually seem to believe that you're coming across as rational while accepting Tony Nader as the king of a made-up kingdom that does not exist, except in the minds of a bunch of cultists. You've also presented reasons why this made-up king should be able to pass control of his made-up kingdom to his heirs. I'm merely making the point that all of this is FUCKIN' NUTS. There is no kingdom. There is no king. All of these this is made up, pure fiction. Only fools or cultists would believe in it. Which are you? *From:* LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, August 4, 2014 5:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife In fact, according to what I have heard, Girish
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
BarryWorld consists of Barry making posts to amuse himself. It has no other purpose. On 8/5/2014 8:37 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Don't let the your lurking employers hear you say that, they might consider a cut in your pay. Don't forget, you're working for them, not for your own amusement, let's get serious here. SpiteWorld seems to be where people who are not amused by his posts choose to live. Some of them seem to be SO not amused lately that they have crossed the line into obsessive hatred. Obsessive hatred would indicate I put energy into thinking about you which is not the case. When I happen to stumble over your self-obsessed posts then I generally remember you exist. As amusement park rides go, I think mine's a more fun place to live. This is self evident. But FYI, if I had designed BarryWorld only to be navigable by those with an IQ over 120, I wouldn't have bothered to post it to Fairfield Life. :-) As a prerequisite you'd have to possess an IQ over 120. So, I wonder how much someone could get paid for posting science articles on the internet about Tony Nader's wife, even if you did have an IQ of 120?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
Ahem. *Someone* should point out that what Lawson posted below is neither fact nor factoid, just a bunch of hearsay presented without any documentation whatsoever. It's a CLAIM. There is not a single reference, not a single quote from anyone, nothing that can be verified. And yet the people piling on as if Lawson had won some imagined battle by making this unsubstantiated claim accept this CLAIM as if it's Truth Incarnate, simply because it perpetuates their own long-held cult beliefs. Odd group, if you ask me. One guy believes that King Tony really IS a king, It shouldn't take a genius to realize that Barry is the guy living in a Kingdom of Netherlands. You just can't make this stuff up. The gift that keeps on giving. On 8/4/2014 9:11 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sometimes you hit the jackpot, Ricardo. What if you woke up in the morning and found out that an anonymous informant had taken over the whole newsgroup, planting false flags and trying to stir up trouble by talking about other people's wives and their private sex life? What if you found out that the informant was working for a science magazine and then reporting back to himself? On 8/5/2014 8:46 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Well, it would explain why bawee appears to be a freak of nature, not a real red-blooded human at all. The more I read what he posts here the more I am convinced he might be some programmed robot-type experimental entity created by those who are interested in real red-blooded human beings' reactions to the crap he posts here. Unfortunately, often it seems like the programming hits a snag where this bawee entity keeps repeating and repeating itself, if not in actual duplicate sentences then in memes. The robot needs a tune up or some re-booting or some new software or something. It's almost as if someone set up a robotic macro to be posted to the forum at regular intervals. Do you suppose he gets paid by the number of words, the frequency, or the number of false flags he plants? Whatever, it couldn't be very much, so maybe he is paying himself. Maybe some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to. Go figure.
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Thank you Nabby for posting this bold article. Here is the comment I posted on the site - let's see if they have the balls to allow it to be posted: As a former practitioner of transcendental meditation, I know that you are a shill for the TM Movement. You are also not giving full information in your article. IDT refers to the TM Sidhi program, the one that purports to enable people to levitate. In no way shape or form is this nonsense scientifically validated. But let's give you the benefit of the doubt - you want to prove this voodoo technology works then I challenge you to personally lead a group into the most dangerous and violent sections of Israel and the Gaza strip. Let the TM Movement pay every penny of the expense in supporting such a group rather than begging the rest of the world to financially support you (which is your actual intent in suggesting such a group) and see how long you last. I do suggest you make sure to give the Israeli authorities the names of your next of kin, I expect they will need them. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors An Outsider's View of How to Calm Middle East-Gaza Tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension
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I think its official - Ann is obsessed with Barry. From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Ahem. *Someone* should point out that what Lawson posted below is neither fact nor factoid, just a bunch of hearsay presented without any documentation whatsoever. It's a CLAIM. There is not a single reference, not a single quote from anyone, nothing that can be verified. And yet the people piling on as if Lawson had won some imagined battle by making this unsubstantiated claim accept this CLAIM as if it's Truth Incarnate, simply because it perpetuates their own long-held cult beliefs. Odd group, if you ask me. One guy believes that King Tony really IS a king, It shouldn't take a genius to realize that Barry is the guy living in a Kingdom of Netherlands. You just can't make this stuff up. The gift that keeps on giving. On 8/4/2014 9:11 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sometimes you hit the jackpot, Ricardo. What if you woke up in the morning and found out that an anonymous informant had taken over the whole newsgroup, planting false flags and trying to stir up trouble by talking about other people's wives and their private sex life? What if you found out that the informant was working for a science magazine and then reporting back to himself? Well, it would explain why bawee appears to be a freak of nature, not a real red-blooded human at all. The more I read what he posts here the more I am convinced he might be some programmed robot-type experimental entity created by those who are interested in real red-blooded human beings' reactions to the crap he posts here. Unfortunately, often it seems like the programming hits a snag where this bawee entity keeps repeating and repeating itself, if not in actual duplicate sentences then in memes. The robot needs a tune up or some re-booting or some new software or something.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I think its official - Ann is obsessed with Barry. Dammit MJ, you've blown my cover of derision and indifference and sussed it out for what it really is. Maybe you could read my jyotish chart or channel for me now, you obviously have a gift. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Ahem. *Someone* should point out that what Lawson posted below is neither fact nor factoid, just a bunch of hearsay presented without any documentation whatsoever. It's a CLAIM. There is not a single reference, not a single quote from anyone, nothing that can be verified. And yet the people piling on as if Lawson had won some imagined battle by making this unsubstantiated claim accept this CLAIM as if it's Truth Incarnate, simply because it perpetuates their own long-held cult beliefs. Odd group, if you ask me. One guy believes that King Tony really IS a king, It shouldn't take a genius to realize that Barry is the guy living in a Kingdom of Netherlands. You just can't make this stuff up. The gift that keeps on giving. On 8/4/2014 9:11 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sometimes you hit the jackpot, Ricardo. What if you woke up in the morning and found out that an anonymous informant had taken over the whole newsgroup, planting false flags and trying to stir up trouble by talking about other people's wives and their private sex life? What if you found out that the informant was working for a science magazine and then reporting back to himself? Well, it would explain why bawee appears to be a freak of nature, not a real red-blooded human at all. The more I read what he posts here the more I am convinced he might be some programmed robot-type experimental entity created by those who are interested in real red-blooded human beings' reactions to the crap he posts here. Unfortunately, often it seems like the programming hits a snag where this bawee entity keeps repeating and repeating itself, if not in actual duplicate sentences then in memes. The robot needs a tune up or some re-booting or some new software or something.
Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors
I think they should try it. Nothing else is working. It's just the usual, endless round of violence. The TM group wouldn't have to go into the most dangerous areas. Just being close would probably do it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Thank you Nabby for posting this bold article. Here is the comment I posted on the site - let's see if they have the balls to allow it to be posted: As a former practitioner of transcendental meditation, I know that you are a shill for the TM Movement. You are also not giving full information in your article. IDT refers to the TM Sidhi program, the one that purports to enable people to levitate. In no way shape or form is this nonsense scientifically validated. But let's give you the benefit of the doubt - you want to prove this voodoo technology works then I challenge you to personally lead a group into the most dangerous and violent sections of Israel and the Gaza strip. Let the TM Movement pay every penny of the expense in supporting such a group rather than begging the rest of the world to financially support you (which is your actual intent in suggesting such a group) and see how long you last. I do suggest you make sure to give the Israeli authorities the names of your next of kin, I expect they will need them. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors An Outsider's View of How to Calm Middle East-Gaza Tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension
Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors
Oh no! Let 'em put up or shut up! Let 'em go to where the rockets are flying and do so at their own expense. If it really works the way they claim, they will be in no danger. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors I think they should try it. Nothing else is working. It's just the usual, endless round of violence. The TM group wouldn't have to go into the most dangerous areas. Just being close would probably do it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Thank you Nabby for posting this bold article. Here is the comment I posted on the site - let's see if they have the balls to allow it to be posted: As a former practitioner of transcendental meditation, I know that you are a shill for the TM Movement. You are also not giving full information in your article. IDT refers to the TM Sidhi program, the one that purports to enable people to levitate. In no way shape or form is this nonsense scientifically validated. But let's give you the benefit of the doubt - you want to prove this voodoo technology works then I challenge you to personally lead a group into the most dangerous and violent sections of Israel and the Gaza strip. Let the TM Movement pay every penny of the expense in supporting such a group rather than begging the rest of the world to financially support you (which is your actual intent in suggesting such a group) and see how long you last. I do suggest you make sure to give the Israeli authorities the names of your next of kin, I expect they will need them. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors An Outsider's View of How to Calm Middle East-Gaza Tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
I would think that it should be obvious by now that all *four* of the former MGC are obsessed with Barry. :-) What's hilarious to me is that all of them -- Ann, Jim, Richard, and Nabby -- seem to have jumped onto the He's being paid to say evil shit about TM Maharishi boat. It used to be that only Nabby said stuff that crazy and paranoid, and only about me and Curtis and Rick. But now the others are that crazy, too. I certainly hope that the lurking reporters are having as much fun with this as I am. They, after all, know that they originally contacted me, not vice-versa. They should also know that if I was supposed to be getting paid to write the kinds of things I write here, none of their checks have ever made it to me. They should get right on that! :-) From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife I think its official - Ann is obsessed with Barry. From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Ahem. *Someone* should point out that what Lawson posted below is neither fact nor factoid, just a bunch of hearsay presented without any documentation whatsoever. It's a CLAIM. There is not a single reference, not a single quote from anyone, nothing that can be verified. And yet the people piling on as if Lawson had won some imagined battle by making this unsubstantiated claim accept this CLAIM as if it's Truth Incarnate, simply because it perpetuates their own long-held cult beliefs. Odd group, if you ask me. One guy believes that King Tony really IS a king, It shouldn't take a genius to realize that Barry is the guy living in a Kingdom of Netherlands. You just can't make this stuff up. The gift that keeps on giving. On 8/4/2014 9:11 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sometimes you hit the jackpot, Ricardo. What if you woke up in the morning and found out that an anonymous informant had taken over the whole newsgroup, planting false flags and trying to stir up trouble by talking about other people's wives and their private sex life? What if you found out that the informant was working for a science magazine and then reporting back to himself? Well, it would explain why bawee appears to be a freak of nature, not a real red-blooded human at all. The more I read what he posts here the more I am convinced he might be some programmed robot-type experimental entity created by those who are interested in real red-blooded human beings' reactions to the crap he posts here. Unfortunately, often it seems like the programming hits a snag where this bawee entity keeps repeating and repeating itself, if not in actual duplicate sentences then in memes. The robot needs a tune up or some re-booting or some new software or something.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
Damn, I wish I could get a gig like that - I have always been content telling the truth about TM and other sycophantic cults for free. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife I would think that it should be obvious by now that all *four* of the former MGC are obsessed with Barry. :-) What's hilarious to me is that all of them -- Ann, Jim, Richard, and Nabby -- seem to have jumped onto the He's being paid to say evil shit about TM Maharishi boat. It used to be that only Nabby said stuff that crazy and paranoid, and only about me and Curtis and Rick. But now the others are that crazy, too. I certainly hope that the lurking reporters are having as much fun with this as I am. They, after all, know that they originally contacted me, not vice-versa. They should also know that if I was supposed to be getting paid to write the kinds of things I write here, none of their checks have ever made it to me. They should get right on that! :-) From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife I think its official - Ann is obsessed with Barry. From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Ahem. *Someone* should point out that what Lawson posted below is neither fact nor factoid, just a bunch of hearsay presented without any documentation whatsoever. It's a CLAIM. There is not a single reference, not a single quote from anyone, nothing that can be verified. And yet the people piling on as if Lawson had won some imagined battle by making this unsubstantiated claim accept this CLAIM as if it's Truth Incarnate, simply because it perpetuates their own long-held cult beliefs. Odd group, if you ask me. One guy believes that King Tony really IS a king, It shouldn't take a genius to realize that Barry is the guy living in a Kingdom of Netherlands. You just can't make this stuff up. The gift that keeps on giving. On 8/4/2014 9:11 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sometimes you hit the jackpot, Ricardo. What if you woke up in the morning and found out that an anonymous informant had taken over the whole newsgroup, planting false flags and trying to stir up trouble by talking about other people's wives and their private sex life? What if you found out that the informant was working for a science magazine and then reporting back to himself? Well, it would explain why bawee appears to be a freak of nature, not a real red-blooded human at all. The more I read what he posts here the more I am convinced he might be some programmed robot-type experimental entity created by those who are interested in real red-blooded human beings' reactions to the crap he posts here. Unfortunately, often it seems like the programming hits a snag where this bawee entity keeps repeating and repeating itself, if not in actual duplicate sentences then in memes. The robot needs a tune up or some re-booting or some new software or something.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
On 08/04/2014 11:23 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Oh scientist Salyavin Raj, you still didn't answer this question: Without looking them up, do the names Simon, Bretagnon and Chapront mean anything to you? Are they a folk singing trio? They'd be better off singing folk songs if they think the position of Jupiter has anything to do with my personality. LOL! If they were folk singers our space probes, satellites and astronauts might have a little problem. Those three are famous celestial mechanics gurus of the late 20th century from the Sorbonne. One of them is no longer with us but they formulate much of the planetary theories that can predict positions of planets over centuries. You can find their work and publications at the IAU website or NASA's JPL site. http://www.iau.org/ http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ Jean Meeus brought a lot of their work to light in his book Astronomical Algorithms. And sorry, I meant to give a clue by saying ring a bell with you instead of mean anything to you. Willmann-Bell is a company that publishes a lot of these works and you can find them on their website. You see some of us know astronomy too. It's great fun to drag an astrologer outside on a starry night and ask them to point out the planets given a horoscope chart of the moment. It's a wonderful experience for them if they don't know how to do that. Otherwise I'll just keep you seated in the peanut gallery. :-D I'm happier up there if the people on the stage are charlatans. I used to know how to draw up horoscopes, I did it the old way with an ephemeris and set of logarithmic tables. The maths is way complicated - you're much better off doing it with a computer programme - but it doesn't have to be that hard. The trouble with astrology is that all the positions of planets in their houses assume that the Earth is the centre of the galaxy with everything else revolving around it. Might be a little hard to find planets and stars looking up at the sky from a heliocentric chart. :-D So that is why geocentric positions are used. And some of us can write those kinds of computer programs. This is one of the things that put me off. The other one is that if you do a couple of charts and forget to put the subjects names at the top there isn't any way of working out whose it is. LOL. People often look like their ascendant. But there are a lot of flaky astrologers who make mistakes like that or enter data wrong (garbage in, garbage out). Sorry, but I was testing you to find how deep your knowledge of science in terms of astronomy is if you wanted to disprove astrology. I let you go so you can grab some of those fresh peanuts that have just been roasted. :-D Just kiddin'
[FairfieldLife] Fun With IQs (was Re: Tony Nader wife)
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com But FYI, if I had designed BarryWorld only to be navigable by those with an IQ over 120, I wouldn't have bothered to post it to Fairfield Life. :-) Just as a fun followup, after jokingly posting this earlier today, just now in this cafe I stumbled upon a web IQ test. Natch, I had to take it. I didn't expect to do very well, having just finished drinking two Westmalle Tripels, and didn't -- only 132. My quick IQ is 132! What's yours? My quick IQ is 132! What's yours? Only 1 in 50 is as smart as I am! View on memorado.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
I'll set you up with my agent. According to Nabby, he's the one who got me the well-paying gigs with the CIA and the Dalai Lama. :-) From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife Damn, I wish I could get a gig like that - I have always been content telling the truth about TM and other sycophantic cults for free. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife I would think that it should be obvious by now that all *four* of the former MGC are obsessed with Barry. :-) What's hilarious to me is that all of them -- Ann, Jim, Richard, and Nabby -- seem to have jumped onto the He's being paid to say evil shit about TM Maharishi boat. It used to be that only Nabby said stuff that crazy and paranoid, and only about me and Curtis and Rick. But now the others are that crazy, too. I certainly hope that the lurking reporters are having as much fun with this as I am. They, after all, know that they originally contacted me, not vice-versa. They should also know that if I was supposed to be getting paid to write the kinds of things I write here, none of their checks have ever made it to me. They should get right on that! :-) From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife I think its official - Ann is obsessed with Barry. From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Ahem. *Someone* should point out that what Lawson posted below is neither fact nor factoid, just a bunch of hearsay presented without any documentation whatsoever. It's a CLAIM. There is not a single reference, not a single quote from anyone, nothing that can be verified. And yet the people piling on as if Lawson had won some imagined battle by making this unsubstantiated claim accept this CLAIM as if it's Truth Incarnate, simply because it perpetuates their own long-held cult beliefs. Odd group, if you ask me. One guy believes that King Tony really IS a king, It shouldn't take a genius to realize that Barry is the guy living in a Kingdom of Netherlands. You just can't make this stuff up. The gift that keeps on giving. On 8/4/2014 9:11 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sometimes you hit the jackpot, Ricardo. What if you woke up in the morning and found out that an anonymous informant had taken over the whole newsgroup, planting false flags and trying to stir up trouble by talking about other people's wives and their private sex life? What if you found out that the informant was working for a science magazine and then reporting back to himself? Well, it would explain why bawee appears to be a freak of nature, not a real red-blooded human at all. The more I read what he posts here the more I am convinced he might be some programmed robot-type experimental entity created by those who are interested in real red-blooded human beings' reactions to the crap he posts here. Unfortunately, often it seems like the programming hits a snag where this bawee entity keeps repeating and repeating itself, if not in actual duplicate sentences then in memes. The robot needs a tune up or some re-booting or some new software or something.
Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors
You are exaggerating as usual. There is no point in putting people in harm's way, which would be grossly irresponsible. That was never the idea. The Maharishi effect doesn't mean that all violence ceases immediately or that you could meditate as a group in the middle of a battlefield and come out unscathed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Oh no! Let 'em put up or shut up! Let 'em go to where the rockets are flying and do so at their own expense. If it really works the way they claim, they will be in no danger. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors I think they should try it. Nothing else is working. It's just the usual, endless round of violence. The TM group wouldn't have to go into the most dangerous areas. Just being close would probably do it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Thank you Nabby for posting this bold article. Here is the comment I posted on the site - let's see if they have the balls to allow it to be posted: As a former practitioner of transcendental meditation, I know that you are a shill for the TM Movement. You are also not giving full information in your article. IDT refers to the TM Sidhi program, the one that purports to enable people to levitate. In no way shape or form is this nonsense scientifically validated. But let's give you the benefit of the doubt - you want to prove this voodoo technology works then I challenge you to personally lead a group into the most dangerous and violent sections of Israel and the Gaza strip. Let the TM Movement pay every penny of the expense in supporting such a group rather than begging the rest of the world to financially support you (which is your actual intent in suggesting such a group) and see how long you last. I do suggest you make sure to give the Israeli authorities the names of your next of kin, I expect they will need them. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors An Outsider's View of How to Calm Middle East-Gaza Tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension
[FairfieldLife] Climate Disruption
Things are (thankfully) a little wet in the SF Bay Area this morning. We got quite a rain overnight. SoCal got soaked over the weekend. I've been noting that the state government has been a little reticent to institute strong policies regarding water use. I think this is because climatologists are telling them we don't just have climate change we have climate disruption. Thus traditional weather patterns have been thrown off. A friend who was involved in the climate change research says you cannot tell what a cloud will do. It was problem they never solved.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
Thank you! Nice and shiny - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : really gets to you, huh? Perhaps time for a walk, dude... You obviously have a difficult time dealing with that, which doesn't conform to BarryWorld. You watch your medieval fantasies, for hours, in your rented room, absorbed to the point of comparing fictitious characters, to live human beings, and yet it is Lawson, that is, as you so uncontrollably put it, fucking nuts. You also claim with no further proof, than your word, that you have personally witnessed, invisibility and levitation, and rooms filled with golden light, and it is, again, Lawson, that is fucking nuts? Well, I am sure that I, along with those on this forum, agree that *someone* is fucking nuts, though I'll let you figure out who it is. Despite the fact that your mantel is overflowing I just have to award you this (it's sterling, as you can see).: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Lawson, I'm sticking with the point I made earlier. You actually seem to believe that you're coming across as rational while accepting Tony Nader as the king of a made-up kingdom that does not exist, except in the minds of a bunch of cultists. You've also presented reasons why this made-up king should be able to pass control of his made-up kingdom to his heirs. I'm merely making the point that all of this is FUCKIN' NUTS. There is no kingdom. There is no king. All of these this is made up, pure fiction. Only fools or cultists would believe in it. Which are you? From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 4, 2014 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife In fact, according to what I have heard, Girish Varma attempted to wrest control of the Indian TM organization away from Tony abu Nader, but both sides agreed to let Swami Vasudevananda Saraswati (the Shankaracharya the TM organization recognizes) be the aribrator for the disupute, and after reviewing all the legal documents, SVS sided with Tony abu Nader, so even in India, Good King Tony rules the TM organization, at last officially. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I don't think who controls is that simple - Girish and his cousins the Srivastavas boys have a good deal of control but there are other Marshy family members and hangers on who control a good deal of it, but they give the American contingent a lot of leeway since America has been such a fat cash cow for the Movement. They all give each other some respect since they are all hogs slopping at the same trough. From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 4, 2014 7:27 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife You guys are fond of quoting newspaper articles claiming teh TM organization is worth billions. That's a pretty hefty kingdom, if it really is worth that much, and whoever controls the crown, controls whatever the asserts are wroth. As an aside, anyone ever wonder at how silly people have to be to entertain so many contradictory ways of looking at things? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Lawson, you're a hoot. You really do believe that there could possibly be succession issues with regard to a kingdom that doesn't exist. How sweet and brainwashed of you. I always wondered for who's benefit the King was for, turns out it's Lawson. Go figure. Arise Sir English! I often wonder how well the TMO would do if it just sold meditation rather than a pre-packaged kingdom with all bases covered from teabags to divination and invincible homes. Maybe they wouldn't alienate absolutely all but the most feverishly needy. Maybe it would be a big success or maybe it would sink without trace in a crowded market place. I don't suppose we'll ever know... For that matter, it's pretty brainwashed and unrealistic of you to believe that the TMO could *last long enough* to need someone to replace Tony Nader... From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 4, 2014 3:49 AMre Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife Um King is generally a hereditary position and in fact, I recall that Maharishi emphasized that when he talked about Tony abu Nader. In fact, for a very long time,. I was wondering how the heck King Tony was going to have kids if he was totally celibate. And it turns out he wasn't. Problem solved. Though, of course, his daughters might not qualify to be king in the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 08/04/2014 11:23 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Sorry, but I was testing you to find how deep your knowledge of science in terms of astronomy is if you wanted to disprove astrology. Well you failed miserably old chap. The Earth - as I keep pointing out - is not the centre of the galaxy. There are no houses and most constellations don't actually exist, they are line of sight conveniences. And planets do not go backwards. Astrology disproves itself by failing to take any of this into account. It takes an iron age view of the cosmos, it's all moved on so much it's hilarious that anyone might still think that the position of some of the planets at the time of their birth (why then?) might be relevant to the rest of their lives or even their personality. We've much better explanations for how personalities develop. The stars are as distant from us as we are from them. So there aint nuthin wrong with my knowledge of astronomy but the beauty of that statement is that it's out of date as soon as I type it, because knowledge doesn't stand still, unless you still use a horoscope drawn up before they'd even discovered there were planets beyond Saturn. LOL. I let you go so you can grab some of those fresh peanuts that have just been roasted. :-D Just kiddin' Seriously, I like peanuts and I'd be happy to be convinced about astrology. My mind is open, and besides, I'd really like that lottery win!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I think its official - Ann is obsessed with Barry. Well Judy did say she'd multiply herself many times. Or was that Marshy? From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Ahem. *Someone* should point out that what Lawson posted below is neither fact nor factoid, just a bunch of hearsay presented without any documentation whatsoever. It's a CLAIM. There is not a single reference, not a single quote from anyone, nothing that can be verified. And yet the people piling on as if Lawson had won some imagined battle by making this unsubstantiated claim accept this CLAIM as if it's Truth Incarnate, simply because it perpetuates their own long-held cult beliefs. Odd group, if you ask me. One guy believes that King Tony really IS a king, It shouldn't take a genius to realize that Barry is the guy living in a Kingdom of Netherlands. You just can't make this stuff up. The gift that keeps on giving. On 8/4/2014 9:11 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sometimes you hit the jackpot, Ricardo. What if you woke up in the morning and found out that an anonymous informant had taken over the whole newsgroup, planting false flags and trying to stir up trouble by talking about other people's wives and their private sex life? What if you found out that the informant was working for a science magazine and then reporting back to himself? Well, it would explain why bawee appears to be a freak of nature, not a real red-blooded human at all. The more I read what he posts here the more I am convinced he might be some programmed robot-type experimental entity created by those who are interested in real red-blooded human beings' reactions to the crap he posts here. Unfortunately, often it seems like the programming hits a snag where this bawee entity keeps repeating and repeating itself, if not in actual duplicate sentences then in memes. The robot needs a tune up or some re-booting or some new software or something.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Climate Disruption
There is a high ridge of pressure that has been sitting out in the Pacific, for a few years, and it consistently bumps the moisture north, to Washington and Oregon. Until that changes, we are dry. Glad to see some rain for you guys, though it didn't make it to the San Jose area. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Things are (thankfully) a little wet in the SF Bay Area this morning. We got quite a rain overnight. SoCal got soaked over the weekend. I've been noting that the state government has been a little reticent to institute strong policies regarding water use. I think this is because climatologists are telling them we don't just have climate change we have climate disruption. Thus traditional weather patterns have been thrown off. A friend who was involved in the climate change research says you cannot tell what a cloud will do. It was problem they never solved.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
Cool! I am available for $100,000 a year, US dollars. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife I'll set you up with my agent. According to Nabby, he's the one who got me the well-paying gigs with the CIA and the Dalai Lama. :-) From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife Damn, I wish I could get a gig like that - I have always been content telling the truth about TM and other sycophantic cults for free. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife I would think that it should be obvious by now that all *four* of the former MGC are obsessed with Barry. :-) What's hilarious to me is that all of them -- Ann, Jim, Richard, and Nabby -- seem to have jumped onto the He's being paid to say evil shit about TM Maharishi boat. It used to be that only Nabby said stuff that crazy and paranoid, and only about me and Curtis and Rick. But now the others are that crazy, too. I certainly hope that the lurking reporters are having as much fun with this as I am. They, after all, know that they originally contacted me, not vice-versa. They should also know that if I was supposed to be getting paid to write the kinds of things I write here, none of their checks have ever made it to me. They should get right on that! :-) From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife I think its official - Ann is obsessed with Barry. From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Ahem. *Someone* should point out that what Lawson posted below is neither fact nor factoid, just a bunch of hearsay presented without any documentation whatsoever. It's a CLAIM. There is not a single reference, not a single quote from anyone, nothing that can be verified. And yet the people piling on as if Lawson had won some imagined battle by making this unsubstantiated claim accept this CLAIM as if it's Truth Incarnate, simply because it perpetuates their own long-held cult beliefs. Odd group, if you ask me. One guy believes that King Tony really IS a king, It shouldn't take a genius to realize that Barry is the guy living in a Kingdom of Netherlands. You just can't make this stuff up. The gift that keeps on giving. On 8/4/2014 9:11 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sometimes you hit the jackpot, Ricardo. What if you woke up in the morning and found out that an anonymous informant had taken over the whole newsgroup, planting false flags and trying to stir up trouble by talking about other people's wives and their private sex life? What if you found out that the informant was working for a science magazine and then reporting back to himself? Well, it would explain why bawee appears to be a freak of nature, not a real red-blooded human at all. The more I read what he posts here the more I am convinced he might be some programmed robot-type experimental entity created by those who are interested in real red-blooded human beings' reactions to the crap he posts here. Unfortunately, often it seems like the programming hits a snag where this bawee entity keeps repeating and repeating itself, if not in actual duplicate sentences then in memes. The robot needs a tune up or some re-booting or some new software or something.
Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors
Feste, you need some serious head shrinking. It has always been the TM people who exaggerate. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors You are exaggerating as usual. There is no point in putting people in harm's way, which would be grossly irresponsible. That was never the idea. The Maharishi effect doesn't mean that all violence ceases immediately or that you could meditate as a group in the middle of a battlefield and come out unscathed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Oh no! Let 'em put up or shut up! Let 'em go to where the rockets are flying and do so at their own expense. If it really works the way they claim, they will be in no danger. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors I think they should try it. Nothing else is working. It's just the usual, endless round of violence. The TM group wouldn't have to go into the most dangerous areas. Just being close would probably do it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Thank you Nabby for posting this bold article. Here is the comment I posted on the site - let's see if they have the balls to allow it to be posted: As a former practitioner of transcendental meditation, I know that you are a shill for the TM Movement. You are also not giving full information in your article. IDT refers to the TM Sidhi program, the one that purports to enable people to levitate. In no way shape or form is this nonsense scientifically validated. But let's give you the benefit of the doubt - you want to prove this voodoo technology works then I challenge you to personally lead a group into the most dangerous and violent sections of Israel and the Gaza strip. Let the TM Movement pay every penny of the expense in supporting such a group rather than begging the rest of the world to financially support you (which is your actual intent in suggesting such a group) and see how long you last. I do suggest you make sure to give the Israeli authorities the names of your next of kin, I expect they will need them. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors An Outsider's View of How to Calm Middle East-Gaza Tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You are exaggerating as usual. There is no point in putting people in harm's way, which would be grossly irresponsible. That was never the idea. The Maharishi effect doesn't mean that all violence ceases immediately or that you could meditate as a group in the middle of a battlefield and come out unscathed. Quite right. It means that you might be able to manipulate a few people using dubious statistics so that they think there were fewer deaths than there would otherwise have been. How you go about working out how many people would have died in a warzone over a given period of time is the unanswered question, it isn't like both sides line up a similar amount and shoot them every day is it? But given the amount of TM and yaga's going on one wonders why there are wars so close to the land of the ved anyway. Go figure... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Oh no! Let 'em put up or shut up! Let 'em go to where the rockets are flying and do so at their own expense. If it really works the way they claim, they will be in no danger. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors I think they should try it. Nothing else is working. It's just the usual, endless round of violence. The TM group wouldn't have to go into the most dangerous areas. Just being close would probably do it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Thank you Nabby for posting this bold article. Here is the comment I posted on the site - let's see if they have the balls to allow it to be posted: As a former practitioner of transcendental meditation, I know that you are a shill for the TM Movement. You are also not giving full information in your article. IDT refers to the TM Sidhi program, the one that purports to enable people to levitate. In no way shape or form is this nonsense scientifically validated. But let's give you the benefit of the doubt - you want to prove this voodoo technology works then I challenge you to personally lead a group into the most dangerous and violent sections of Israel and the Gaza strip. Let the TM Movement pay every penny of the expense in supporting such a group rather than begging the rest of the world to financially support you (which is your actual intent in suggesting such a group) and see how long you last. I do suggest you make sure to give the Israeli authorities the names of your next of kin, I expect they will need them. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors An Outsider's View of How to Calm Middle East-Gaza Tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
But I heard you did the Dalai Lama for free?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I'll set you up with my agent. According to Nabby, he's the one who got me the well-paying gigs with the CIA and the Dalai Lama. :-) From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife Damn, I wish I could get a gig like that - I have always been content telling the truth about TM and other sycophantic cults for free. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife I would think that it should be obvious by now that all *four* of the former MGC are obsessed with Barry. :-) What's hilarious to me is that all of them -- Ann, Jim, Richard, and Nabby -- seem to have jumped onto the He's being paid to say evil shit about TM Maharishi boat. It used to be that only Nabby said stuff that crazy and paranoid, and only about me and Curtis and Rick. But now the others are that crazy, too. I certainly hope that the lurking reporters are having as much fun with this as I am. They, after all, know that they originally contacted me, not vice-versa. They should also know that if I was supposed to be getting paid to write the kinds of things I write here, none of their checks have ever made it to me. They should get right on that! :-) From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife I think its official - Ann is obsessed with Barry. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Ahem. *Someone* should point out that what Lawson posted below is neither fact nor factoid, just a bunch of hearsay presented without any documentation whatsoever. It's a CLAIM. There is not a single reference, not a single quote from anyone, nothing that can be verified. And yet the people piling on as if Lawson had won some imagined battle by making this unsubstantiated claim accept this CLAIM as if it's Truth Incarnate, simply because it perpetuates their own long-held cult beliefs. Odd group, if you ask me. One guy believes that King Tony really IS a king, It shouldn't take a genius to realize that Barry is the guy living in a Kingdom of Netherlands. You just can't make this stuff up. The gift that keeps on giving. On 8/4/2014 9:11 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sometimes you hit the jackpot, Ricardo. What if you woke up in the morning and found out that an anonymous informant had taken over the whole newsgroup, planting false flags and trying to stir up trouble by talking about other people's wives and their private sex life? What if you found out that the informant was working for a science magazine and then reporting back to himself? Well, it would explain why bawee appears to be a freak of nature, not a real red-blooded human at all. The more I read what he posts here the more I am convinced he might be some programmed robot-type experimental entity created by those who are interested in real red-blooded human beings' reactions to the crap he posts here. Unfortunately, often it seems like the programming hits a snag where this bawee entity keeps repeating and repeating itself, if not in actual duplicate sentences then in memes. The robot needs a tune up or some re-booting or some new software or something.
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I agree. I am a little surprised that the TMO hasn't done this, as a continuation of Maharishi's initiatives. Of course, there are enough hot spots that it could be an issue to fund all of them. Maharishi always wanted countries to recognize the value of his programs on their own, but it is something very tough to do, while fighting a war. Jordan may be safe enough, and close enough, and friendly enough, for a group of Sidhas, though I can't think of anyplace else. I seem to recall this was done, at least once before in possibly Lebanon? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You are exaggerating as usual. There is no point in putting people in harm's way, which would be grossly irresponsible. That was never the idea. The Maharishi effect doesn't mean that all violence ceases immediately or that you could meditate as a group in the middle of a battlefield and come out unscathed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Oh no! Let 'em put up or shut up! Let 'em go to where the rockets are flying and do so at their own expense. If it really works the way they claim, they will be in no danger. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors I think they should try it. Nothing else is working. It's just the usual, endless round of violence. The TM group wouldn't have to go into the most dangerous areas. Just being close would probably do it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Thank you Nabby for posting this bold article. Here is the comment I posted on the site - let's see if they have the balls to allow it to be posted: As a former practitioner of transcendental meditation, I know that you are a shill for the TM Movement. You are also not giving full information in your article. IDT refers to the TM Sidhi program, the one that purports to enable people to levitate. In no way shape or form is this nonsense scientifically validated. But let's give you the benefit of the doubt - you want to prove this voodoo technology works then I challenge you to personally lead a group into the most dangerous and violent sections of Israel and the Gaza strip. Let the TM Movement pay every penny of the expense in supporting such a group rather than begging the rest of the world to financially support you (which is your actual intent in suggesting such a group) and see how long you last. I do suggest you make sure to give the Israeli authorities the names of your next of kin, I expect they will need them. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors An Outsider's View of How to Calm Middle East-Gaza Tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension
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No need, there are apparently 300,000 kids in Marshy schools in India, that's world peace right there. Unless something isn't right with the theory ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I agree. I am a little surprised that the TMO hasn't done this, as a continuation of Maharishi's initiatives. Of course, there are enough hot spots that it could be an issue to fund all of them. Maharishi always wanted countries to recognize the value of his programs on their own, but it is something very tough to do, while fighting a war. Jordan may be safe enough, and close enough, and friendly enough, for a group of Sidhas, though I can't think of anyplace else. I seem to recall this was done, at least once before in possibly Lebanon? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You are exaggerating as usual. There is no point in putting people in harm's way, which would be grossly irresponsible. That was never the idea. The Maharishi effect doesn't mean that all violence ceases immediately or that you could meditate as a group in the middle of a battlefield and come out unscathed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Oh no! Let 'em put up or shut up! Let 'em go to where the rockets are flying and do so at their own expense. If it really works the way they claim, they will be in no danger. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors I think they should try it. Nothing else is working. It's just the usual, endless round of violence. The TM group wouldn't have to go into the most dangerous areas. Just being close would probably do it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Thank you Nabby for posting this bold article. Here is the comment I posted on the site - let's see if they have the balls to allow it to be posted: As a former practitioner of transcendental meditation, I know that you are a shill for the TM Movement. You are also not giving full information in your article. IDT refers to the TM Sidhi program, the one that purports to enable people to levitate. In no way shape or form is this nonsense scientifically validated. But let's give you the benefit of the doubt - you want to prove this voodoo technology works then I challenge you to personally lead a group into the most dangerous and violent sections of Israel and the Gaza strip. Let the TM Movement pay every penny of the expense in supporting such a group rather than begging the rest of the world to financially support you (which is your actual intent in suggesting such a group) and see how long you last. I do suggest you make sure to give the Israeli authorities the names of your next of kin, I expect they will need them. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors An Outsider's View of How to Calm Middle East-Gaza Tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
Thanks - I thought it was irony at its finest! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Sentence of the week: You obviously have a difficult time dealing with that, which doesn't conform to BarryWorld. You watch your medieval fantasies, for hours, in your rented room, absorbed to the point of comparing fictitious characters, to live human beings, and yet it is Lawson, that is, as you so uncontrollably put it, fucking nuts. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : really gets to you, huh? Perhaps time for a walk, dude... You obviously have a difficult time dealing with that, which doesn't conform to BarryWorld. You watch your medieval fantasies, for hours, in your rented room, absorbed to the point of comparing fictitious characters, to live human beings, and yet it is Lawson, that is, as you so uncontrollably put it, fucking nuts. You also claim with no further proof, than your word, that you have personally witnessed, invisibility and levitation, and rooms filled with golden light, and it is, again, Lawson, that is fucking nuts? Well, I am sure that I, along with those on this forum, agree that *someone* is fucking nuts, though I'll let you figure out who it is. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Lawson, I'm sticking with the point I made earlier. You actually seem to believe that you're coming across as rational while accepting Tony Nader as the king of a made-up kingdom that does not exist, except in the minds of a bunch of cultists. You've also presented reasons why this made-up king should be able to pass control of his made-up kingdom to his heirs. I'm merely making the point that all of this is FUCKIN' NUTS. There is no kingdom. There is no king. All of these this is made up, pure fiction. Only fools or cultists would believe in it. Which are you? From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 4, 2014 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife In fact, according to what I have heard, Girish Varma attempted to wrest control of the Indian TM organization away from Tony abu Nader, but both sides agreed to let Swami Vasudevananda Saraswati (the Shankaracharya the TM organization recognizes) be the aribrator for the disupute, and after reviewing all the legal documents, SVS sided with Tony abu Nader, so even in India, Good King Tony rules the TM organization, at last officially. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I don't think who controls is that simple - Girish and his cousins the Srivastavas boys have a good deal of control but there are other Marshy family members and hangers on who control a good deal of it, but they give the American contingent a lot of leeway since America has been such a fat cash cow for the Movement. They all give each other some respect since they are all hogs slopping at the same trough. From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 4, 2014 7:27 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife You guys are fond of quoting newspaper articles claiming teh TM organization is worth billions. That's a pretty hefty kingdom, if it really is worth that much, and whoever controls the crown, controls whatever the asserts are wroth. As an aside, anyone ever wonder at how silly people have to be to entertain so many contradictory ways of looking at things? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Lawson, you're a hoot. You really do believe that there could possibly be succession issues with regard to a kingdom that doesn't exist. How sweet and brainwashed of you. I always wondered for who's benefit the King was for, turns out it's Lawson. Go figure. Arise Sir English! I often wonder how well the TMO would do if it just sold meditation rather than a pre-packaged kingdom with all bases covered from teabags to divination and invincible homes. Maybe they wouldn't alienate absolutely all but the most feverishly needy. Maybe it would be a big success or maybe it would sink without trace in a crowded market place. I don't suppose we'll ever know... For that matter, it's pretty brainwashed and unrealistic of you to believe that the TMO could *last long enough* to need someone to replace Tony Nader... From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 4, 2014 3:49 AMre Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife Um King is generally a hereditary position and in fact, I recall that Maharishi emphasized that when he talked about Tony abu Nader. In fact, for a very
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
Glad to hear it - Sounds like the Shankaracharya is a pretty enlightened fellow. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's an oldish story from last year and a non-story. Girish V. got Nandkiskore and a top lady at MD on a mission to abolish the institution of Rajas but wasn't prepared for the verdict from the Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math who politely asked them to go home. Last thing I heard was that Nandkishore lives somewhere in Germany :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Glad Tony won - Thanks for bringing this to light. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : In fact, according to what I have heard, Girish Varma attempted to wrest control of the Indian TM organization away from Tony abu Nader, but both sides agreed to let Swami Vasudevananda Saraswati (the Shankaracharya the TM organization recognizes) be the aribrator for the disupute, and after reviewing all the legal documents, SVS sided with Tony abu Nader, so even in India, Good King Tony rules the TM organization, at last officially. L See, any of you buffoons out there: factoids not beliefs. Get it now? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I don't think who controls is that simple - Girish and his cousins the Srivastavas boys have a good deal of control but there are other Marshy family members and hangers on who control a good deal of it, but they give the American contingent a lot of leeway since America has been such a fat cash cow for the Movement. They all give each other some respect since they are all hogs slopping at the same trough. From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 4, 2014 7:27 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife You guys are fond of quoting newspaper articles claiming teh TM organization is worth billions. That's a pretty hefty kingdom, if it really is worth that much, and whoever controls the crown, controls whatever the asserts are wroth. As an aside, anyone ever wonder at how silly people have to be to entertain so many contradictory ways of looking at things? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Lawson, you're a hoot. You really do believe that there could possibly be succession issues with regard to a kingdom that doesn't exist. How sweet and brainwashed of you. I always wondered for who's benefit the King was for, turns out it's Lawson. Go figure. Arise Sir English! I often wonder how well the TMO would do if it just sold meditation rather than a pre-packaged kingdom with all bases covered from teabags to divination and invincible homes. Maybe they wouldn't alienate absolutely all but the most feverishly needy. Maybe it would be a big success or maybe it would sink without trace in a crowded market place. I don't suppose we'll ever know... For that matter, it's pretty brainwashed and unrealistic of you to believe that the TMO could *last long enough* to need someone to replace Tony Nader... From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 4, 2014 3:49 AMre Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife Um King is generally a hereditary position and in fact, I recall that Maharishi emphasized that when he talked about Tony abu Nader. In fact, for a very long time,. I was wondering how the heck King Tony was going to have kids if he was totally celibate. And it turns out he wasn't. Problem solved. Though, of course, his daughters might not qualify to be king in the male-dominated TM organization, and might not want to be ruler of the Global Country of World Peace even if one or the other DID qualify. I rather suspect that Maharishi had some alternate way of selecting King Tony's successor if he only had girls and/or none of his offspring were deemed suitable heirs to the throne. Maharishi, more than anyone else, would have some sense about how unclear succession issues can bring about huge fragmentation in an organization such as the TMO, and given how meticulously he planned everything else, I would be greatly surprised if he hadn't planned for that eventuality as well. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Just to follow up, in case there there the possibility of a follow-up implicit in this question, I have never met either Tony Nader nor his wife. Both were long after my time in the TMO. I know nothing about either of them than stuff that's been discussed here or on a Usenet forum called alt.meditation.transcendental or (in the case of Da King) official TM
Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors
On 8/5/2014 9:38 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Thank you Nabby for posting this bold article. Here is the comment I posted on the site - let's see if they have the balls to allow it to be posted: If you had any balls you wouldn't be posting here anonymously. Almost everyone on this list knows you are an informant planting runors. What we don't know is whose payroll you are on - Knapp or Bronte. Go figure. As a former practitioner of transcendental meditation, I know that you are a shill for the TM Movement. You are also not giving full information in your article. IDT refers to the TM Sidhi program, the one that purports to enable people to levitate. In no way shape or form is this nonsense scientifically validated. But let's give you the benefit of the doubt - you want to prove this voodoo technology works then I challenge you to personally lead a group into the most dangerous and violent sections of Israel and the Gaza strip. Let the TM Movement pay every penny of the expense in supporting such a group rather than begging the rest of the world to financially support you (which is your actual intent in suggesting such a group) and see how long you last. I do suggest you make sure to give the Israeli authorities the names of your next of kin, I expect they will need them. *From:* nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:30 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors _An Outsider's View of How to Calm Middle East-Gaza Tension _ _http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension_
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
On 8/5/2014 9:39 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I think its official - Ann is obsessed with Barry. So, you're you are an official - I thought so. So, we already know you are an informant, but who are you working for? *From:* awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:46 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Ahem. *Someone* should point out that what Lawson posted below is neither fact nor factoid, just a bunch of hearsay presented without any documentation whatsoever. It's a CLAIM. There is not a single reference, not a single quote from anyone, nothing that can be verified. And yet the people piling on as if Lawson had won some imagined battle by making this unsubstantiated claim accept this CLAIM as if it's Truth Incarnate, simply because it perpetuates their own long-held cult beliefs. Odd group, if you ask me. One guy believes that King Tony really IS a king, It shouldn't take a genius to realize that Barry is the guy living in a Kingdom of Netherlands. You just can't make this stuff up. The gift that keeps on giving. On 8/4/2014 9:11 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sometimes you hit the jackpot, Ricardo. What if you woke up in the morning and found out that an anonymous informant had taken over the whole newsgroup, planting false flags and trying to stir up trouble by talking about other people's wives and their private sex life? What if you found out that the informant was working for a science magazine and then reporting back to himself? Well, it would explain why bawee appears to be a freak of nature, not a real red-blooded human at all. The more I read what he posts here the more I am convinced he might be some programmed robot-type experimental entity created by those who are interested in real red-blooded human beings' reactions to the crap he posts here. Unfortunately, often it seems like the programming hits a snag where this bawee entity keeps repeating and repeating itself, if not in actual duplicate sentences then in memes. The robot needs a tune up or some re-booting or some new software or something.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
LOL - Hilarious! Especially that this photo-shopped flying guru was Barry's Master and Teacher for so many years! What a hoot! Yeah, Cult-Buster Barry at the ready! Hey, MJ, what say you about your favorite TM basher on here, and the ridiculous fraud that he followed and revered, as an incarnation of Vishnu, no less, for years and years?? Are you sure it bolsters your street cred? You may want to think about your slavish and thoughtless support of this former cult addict. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/4/2014 6:57 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Lawson, it's really difficult to believe you're as unintelligent as you come across sometimes. *ONLY* a cultist could *possibly* believe that Tony Nader is King of something, anything. The billion bucks was definitely tracked as income and assets of the TMO. However, the same people who did the tracking admit that no one knows where the money is now. It was redirected from other countries to Maharishi's relatives, a black hole into which it has disappeared, probably never to be seen again. If that's your idea of a kingdom, I wish you well with it. When it comes to silly, very little on planet Earth could possibly top the silliness of someone who actually believes that Tony Nader is a King who could pass along his kingdom to his progeny. Zen Master Rama levitating over water You're simply not sane if you believe that, Lawson. From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:LEnglish5@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 4, 2014 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife You guys are fond of quoting newspaper articles claiming teh TM organization is worth billions. That's a pretty hefty kingdom, if it really is worth that much, and whoever controls the crown, controls whatever the asserts are wroth. As an aside, anyone ever wonder at how silly people have to be to entertain so many contradictory ways of looking at things? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : Lawson, you're a hoot. You really do believe that there could possibly be succession issues with regard to a kingdom that doesn't exist. How sweet and brainwashed of you. I always wondered for who's benefit the King was for, turns out it's Lawson. Go figure. Arise Sir English! I often wonder how well the TMO would do if it just sold meditation rather than a pre-packaged kingdom with all bases covered from teabags to divination and invincible homes. Maybe they wouldn't alienate absolutely all but the most feverishly needy. Maybe it would be a big success or maybe it would sink without trace in a crowded market place. I don't suppose we'll ever know... For that matter, it's pretty brainwashed and unrealistic of you to believe that the TMO could *last long enough* to need someone to replace Tony Nader... From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 4, 2014 3:49 AMre Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife Um King is generally a hereditary position and in fact, I recall that Maharishi emphasized that when he talked about Tony abu Nader. In fact, for a very long time,. I was wondering how the heck King Tony was going to have kids if he was totally celibate. And it turns out he wasn't. Problem solved. Though, of course, his daughters might not qualify to be king in the male-dominated TM organization, and might not want to be ruler of the Global Country of World Peace even if one or the other DID qualify. I rather suspect that Maharishi had some alternate way of selecting King Tony's successor if he only had girls and/or none of his offspring were deemed suitable heirs to the throne. Maharishi, more than anyone else, would have some sense about how unclear succession issues can bring about huge fragmentation in an organization such as the TMO, and given how meticulously he planned everything else, I would be greatly surprised if he hadn't planned for that eventuality as well. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : Just to follow up, in case there there the possibility of a follow-up implicit in this question, I have never met either Tony Nader nor his wife. Both were long after my time in the TMO. I know
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
On 8/5/2014 9:50 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I think its official - Ann is obsessed with Barry. Dammit MJ, you've blown my cover of derision and indifference and sussed it out for what it really is. Maybe you could read my jyotish chart or channel for me now, you obviously have a gift. He does have some balls to admit he is an official informant. So, I wonder how much he gets paid by the lurking reporters? Go figure. *From:* awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:46 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Ahem. *Someone* should point out that what Lawson posted below is neither fact nor factoid, just a bunch of hearsay presented without any documentation whatsoever. It's a CLAIM. There is not a single reference, not a single quote from anyone, nothing that can be verified. And yet the people piling on as if Lawson had won some imagined battle by making this unsubstantiated claim accept this CLAIM as if it's Truth Incarnate, simply because it perpetuates their own long-held cult beliefs. Odd group, if you ask me. One guy believes that King Tony really IS a king, It shouldn't take a genius to realize that Barry is the guy living in a Kingdom of Netherlands. You just can't make this stuff up. The gift that keeps on giving. On 8/4/2014 9:11 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sometimes you hit the jackpot, Ricardo. What if you woke up in the morning and found out that an anonymous informant had taken over the whole newsgroup, planting false flags and trying to stir up trouble by talking about other people's wives and their private sex life? What if you found out that the informant was working for a science magazine and then reporting back to himself? Well, it would explain why bawee appears to be a freak of nature, not a real red-blooded human at all. The more I read what he posts here the more I am convinced he might be some programmed robot-type experimental entity created by those who are interested in real red-blooded human beings' reactions to the crap he posts here. Unfortunately, often it seems like the programming hits a snag where this bawee entity keeps repeating and repeating itself, if not in actual duplicate sentences then in memes. The robot needs a tune up or some re-booting or some new software or something.
Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors
Key word is kids. They will be very powerful, once they grow up, but what we need are adult siddhas and or governors. No, there is nothing wrong with the theory - it is simply an extension of what occurs naturally, with TM, on the individual level. However, it is plainly impossible to explain this, to those who do not practice TM. Like trying to describe the flavor of an apple, without the fruit. No big deal - it seems to drive those without a clear sense of how stress is reduced, sort of crazy, and I am more than happy to let them deal with that, on their own. The Maharishi Effect was not designed to be a point of argument and finger pointing. It is an effect that straddles science and metaphysics, and nothing for simpletons to try and tackle - it hurts their little brains. The only way to understand it, is to do TM - period. Otherwise, the lack of clarity, and large amounts of stress, in the minds of those who are not at peace, will forever be a barrier to comprehension of the ME. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : No need, there are apparently 300,000 kids in Marshy schools in India, that's world peace right there. Unless something isn't right with the theory ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I agree. I am a little surprised that the TMO hasn't done this, as a continuation of Maharishi's initiatives. Of course, there are enough hot spots that it could be an issue to fund all of them. Maharishi always wanted countries to recognize the value of his programs on their own, but it is something very tough to do, while fighting a war. Jordan may be safe enough, and close enough, and friendly enough, for a group of Sidhas, though I can't think of anyplace else. I seem to recall this was done, at least once before in possibly Lebanon? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You are exaggerating as usual. There is no point in putting people in harm's way, which would be grossly irresponsible. That was never the idea. The Maharishi effect doesn't mean that all violence ceases immediately or that you could meditate as a group in the middle of a battlefield and come out unscathed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Oh no! Let 'em put up or shut up! Let 'em go to where the rockets are flying and do so at their own expense. If it really works the way they claim, they will be in no danger. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors I think they should try it. Nothing else is working. It's just the usual, endless round of violence. The TM group wouldn't have to go into the most dangerous areas. Just being close would probably do it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Thank you Nabby for posting this bold article. Here is the comment I posted on the site - let's see if they have the balls to allow it to be posted: As a former practitioner of transcendental meditation, I know that you are a shill for the TM Movement. You are also not giving full information in your article. IDT refers to the TM Sidhi program, the one that purports to enable people to levitate. In no way shape or form is this nonsense scientifically validated. But let's give you the benefit of the doubt - you want to prove this voodoo technology works then I challenge you to personally lead a group into the most dangerous and violent sections of Israel and the Gaza strip. Let the TM Movement pay every penny of the expense in supporting such a group rather than begging the rest of the world to financially support you (which is your actual intent in suggesting such a group) and see how long you last. I do suggest you make sure to give the Israeli authorities the names of your next of kin, I expect they will need them. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors An Outsider's View of How to Calm Middle East-Gaza Tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension
Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors
On 8/5/2014 9:53 AM, feste37 wrote: I think they should try it. Nothing else is working. It's just the usual, endless round of violence. The TM group wouldn't have to go into the most dangerous areas. Just being close would probably do it. It's already working - almost everything that's good that is happening in the world is because of the ME. It's just obvious. The Hamas are fighting a proxy war, so all we have to do is influence their supporters. According to what I've read, there are only a few members of the Arab League that continue to support the militant faction in Gaza. The militants in Gaza made the wrong choice by voting for violence and now they will have to pay. It's not about territory or freedom or human rights - it's all about staying in power and control. The Israelis should secure all the Gaza borders and put checkpoints so there will be no more rockets or cement smuggled into Gaza. Then, all the Israelis have to do is search out and destroy all the tunnels and the rocket cache and arrest and put in prison all the Hamas leaders, so that economic aid can be supplied to the citizens of Gaza so they can grow and prosper. Without the militants in charge, Gaza could become the Singapore of the Mediterranean. It's not complicated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Thank you Nabby for posting this bold article. Here is the comment I posted on the site - let's see if they have the balls to allow it to be posted: As a former practitioner of transcendental meditation, I know that you are a shill for the TM Movement. You are also not giving full information in your article. IDT refers to the TM Sidhi program, the one that purports to enable people to levitate. In no way shape or form is this nonsense scientifically validated. But let's give you the benefit of the doubt - you want to prove this voodoo technology works then I challenge you to personally lead a group into the most dangerous and violent sections of Israel and the Gaza strip. Let the TM Movement pay every penny of the expense in supporting such a group rather than begging the rest of the world to financially support you (which is your actual intent in suggesting such a group) and see how long you last. I do suggest you make sure to give the Israeli authorities the names of your next of kin, I expect they will need them. *From:* nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:30 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors _An Outsider's View of How to Calm Middle East-Gaza Tension _ _http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension_
Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors
Israel has become too much like Nazi Germany, for my liking. One Nazi killed, always meant 50 civilians slaughtered. Same ratio with the Israelis vs. the Palestinians. Sieg Heil, Israel. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/5/2014 9:53 AM, feste37 wrote: I think they should try it. Nothing else is working. It's just the usual, endless round of violence. The TM group wouldn't have to go into the most dangerous areas. Just being close would probably do it. It's already working - almost everything that's good that is happening in the world is because of the ME. It's just obvious. The Hamas are fighting a proxy war, so all we have to do is influence their supporters. According to what I've read, there are only a few members of the Arab League that continue to support the militant faction in Gaza. The militants in Gaza made the wrong choice by voting for violence and now they will have to pay. It's not about territory or freedom or human rights - it's all about staying in power and control. The Israelis should secure all the Gaza borders and put checkpoints so there will be no more rockets or cement smuggled into Gaza. Then, all the Israelis have to do is search out and destroy all the tunnels and the rocket cache and arrest and put in prison all the Hamas leaders, so that economic aid can be supplied to the citizens of Gaza so they can grow and prosper. Without the militants in charge, Gaza could become the Singapore of the Mediterranean. It's not complicated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : Thank you Nabby for posting this bold article. Here is the comment I posted on the site - let's see if they have the balls to allow it to be posted: As a former practitioner of transcendental meditation, I know that you are a shill for the TM Movement. You are also not giving full information in your article. IDT refers to the TM Sidhi program, the one that purports to enable people to levitate. In no way shape or form is this nonsense scientifically validated. But let's give you the benefit of the doubt - you want to prove this voodoo technology works then I challenge you to personally lead a group into the most dangerous and violent sections of Israel and the Gaza strip. Let the TM Movement pay every penny of the expense in supporting such a group rather than begging the rest of the world to financially support you (which is your actual intent in suggesting such a group) and see how long you last. I do suggest you make sure to give the Israeli authorities the names of your next of kin, I expect they will need them. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors An Outsider's View of How to Calm Middle East-Gaza Tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
On 8/5/2014 10:04 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I would think that it should be obvious by now that all *four* of the former MGC are obsessed with Barry. :-) What's hilarious to me is that all of them -- Ann, Jim, Richard, and Nabby -- seem to have jumped onto the He's being paid to say evil shit about TM Maharishi boat. It used to be that only Nabby said stuff that crazy and paranoid, and only about me and Curtis and Rick. But now the others are that crazy, too. So, let's review what we know about the TB: * TB is an ex military-brat. * TB used to work for international corporations like IBM. * TB is an anonymous alias used on the internet. * TB gets paid by his family to write science articles. * TB is a self-confessed internet pirate known on Pirate Bay. * TB parents were in the diplomatic field for many years with federal government contacts. * TB is known to frequent bars and cafes and associate with reporters, artists, musicians and skin-head bikers. So, when you put it all together it's obvious that the TB is an informant, not a paranoid and crazy assumption at all. Go figure. I certainly hope that the lurking reporters are having as much fun with this as I am. They, after all, know that they originally contacted me, not vice-versa. They should also know that if I was supposed to be getting paid to write the kinds of things I write here, none of their checks have ever made it to me. They should get right on that! :-) Only an idiot would send a check to TB in the mail and leave a paper trail all over Europe and with the U.S. internal revenue service - he probably gets paid in Bit Coins or exchanges baseball cards with his handlers over there. Go figure. *From:* Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2014 4:39 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife I think its official - Ann is obsessed with Barry. *From:* awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:46 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Ahem. *Someone* should point out that what Lawson posted below is neither fact nor factoid, just a bunch of hearsay presented without any documentation whatsoever. It's a CLAIM. There is not a single reference, not a single quote from anyone, nothing that can be verified. And yet the people piling on as if Lawson had won some imagined battle by making this unsubstantiated claim accept this CLAIM as if it's Truth Incarnate, simply because it perpetuates their own long-held cult beliefs. Odd group, if you ask me. One guy believes that King Tony really IS a king, It shouldn't take a genius to realize that Barry is the guy living in a Kingdom of Netherlands. You just can't make this stuff up. The gift that keeps on giving. On 8/4/2014 9:11 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sometimes you hit the jackpot, Ricardo. What if you woke up in the morning and found out that an anonymous informant had taken over the whole newsgroup, planting false flags and trying to stir up trouble by talking about other people's wives and their private sex life? What if you found out that the informant was working for a science magazine and then reporting back to himself? Well, it would explain why bawee appears to be a freak of nature, not a real red-blooded human at all. The more I read what he posts here the more I am convinced he might be some programmed robot-type experimental entity created by those who are interested in real red-blooded human beings' reactions to the crap he posts here. Unfortunately, often it seems like the programming hits a snag where this bawee entity keeps repeating and repeating itself, if not in actual duplicate sentences then in memes. The robot needs a tune up or some re-booting or some new software or something.
Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors
So like I said, let 'em put up or shut up - the TM Movement likes to brag about how they sent men into Iran years ago and made everything peaceful - come on, let em go to Israel and prove their bullshit and let them pay for it. This article is just another gambit by the TMO to get money - IF their schtick was credible and effective, and IF they really were concerned with peace, they would be sending groups around at their own expense and PROVING what they continue to yap about. The fact that they do not send in groups at their own expense is indicative that they are wanting someone else to foot the bill and when peace doesn't come it will pave the way for more exhortations to give more and get more siddhas there, just like the assholes did after the pundit riot in Fairfield. Fuck, even Frances Bennett thinks the TMO is a cult. Why can't you boys see it? From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors Key word is kids. They will be very powerful, once they grow up, but what we need are adult siddhas and or governors. No, there is nothing wrong with the theory - it is simply an extension of what occurs naturally, with TM, on the individual level. However, it is plainly impossible to explain this, to those who do not practice TM. Like trying to describe the flavor of an apple, without the fruit. No big deal - it seems to drive those without a clear sense of how stress is reduced, sort of crazy, and I am more than happy to let them deal with that, on their own. The Maharishi Effect was not designed to be a point of argument and finger pointing. It is an effect that straddles science and metaphysics, and nothing for simpletons to try and tackle - it hurts their little brains. The only way to understand it, is to do TM - period. Otherwise, the lack of clarity, and large amounts of stress, in the minds of those who are not at peace, will forever be a barrier to comprehension of the ME. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : No need, there are apparently 300,000 kids in Marshy schools in India, that's world peace right there. Unless something isn't right with the theory ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I agree. I am a little surprised that the TMO hasn't done this, as a continuation of Maharishi's initiatives. Of course, there are enough hot spots that it could be an issue to fund all of them. Maharishi always wanted countries to recognize the value of his programs on their own, but it is something very tough to do, while fighting a war. Jordan may be safe enough, and close enough, and friendly enough, for a group of Sidhas, though I can't think of anyplace else. I seem to recall this was done, at least once before in possibly Lebanon? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You are exaggerating as usual. There is no point in putting people in harm's way, which would be grossly irresponsible. That was never the idea. The Maharishi effect doesn't mean that all violence ceases immediately or that you could meditate as a group in the middle of a battlefield and come out unscathed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Oh no! Let 'em put up or shut up! Let 'em go to where the rockets are flying and do so at their own expense. If it really works the way they claim, they will be in no danger. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors I think they should try it. Nothing else is working. It's just the usual, endless round of violence. The TM group wouldn't have to go into the most dangerous areas. Just being close would probably do it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Thank you Nabby for posting this bold article. Here is the comment I posted on the site - let's see if they have the balls to allow it to be posted: As a former practitioner of transcendental meditation, I know that you are a shill for the TM Movement. You are also not giving full information in your article. IDT refers to the TM Sidhi program, the one that purports to enable people to levitate. In no way shape or form is this nonsense scientifically validated. But let's give you the benefit of the doubt - you want to prove this voodoo technology works then I challenge you to personally lead a group into the most dangerous and violent sections of Israel and the Gaza strip. Let the TM Movement pay every penny of the expense in supporting such a group rather than begging the rest of the world to financially support you (which is your actual
Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors
if there was anything to the Marshy effect India would not be the fucked up misogynistic country it is and the pundits wouldn't riot in Fairfield. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You are exaggerating as usual. There is no point in putting people in harm's way, which would be grossly irresponsible. That was never the idea. The Maharishi effect doesn't mean that all violence ceases immediately or that you could meditate as a group in the middle of a battlefield and come out unscathed. Quite right. It means that you might be able to manipulate a few people using dubious statistics so that they think there were fewer deaths than there would otherwise have been. How you go about working out how many people would have died in a warzone over a given period of time is the unanswered question, it isn't like both sides line up a similar amount and shoot them every day is it? But given the amount of TM and yaga's going on one wonders why there are wars so close to the land of the ved anyway. Go figure... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Oh no! Let 'em put up or shut up! Let 'em go to where the rockets are flying and do so at their own expense. If it really works the way they claim, they will be in no danger. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors I think they should try it. Nothing else is working. It's just the usual, endless round of violence. The TM group wouldn't have to go into the most dangerous areas. Just being close would probably do it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Thank you Nabby for posting this bold article. Here is the comment I posted on the site - let's see if they have the balls to allow it to be posted: As a former practitioner of transcendental meditation, I know that you are a shill for the TM Movement. You are also not giving full information in your article. IDT refers to the TM Sidhi program, the one that purports to enable people to levitate. In no way shape or form is this nonsense scientifically validated. But let's give you the benefit of the doubt - you want to prove this voodoo technology works then I challenge you to personally lead a group into the most dangerous and violent sections of Israel and the Gaza strip. Let the TM Movement pay every penny of the expense in supporting such a group rather than begging the rest of the world to financially support you (which is your actual intent in suggesting such a group) and see how long you last. I do suggest you make sure to give the Israeli authorities the names of your next of kin, I expect they will need them. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors An Outsider's View of How to Calm Middle East-Gaza Tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
On 8/5/2014 10:55 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Damn, I wish I could get a gig like that - I have always been content telling the truth about TM and other sycophantic cults for free. /Now this is funny/ - a guy posting anonymously with a phony alias claims he /tells the truth/ about the cult he was in, and that he /works for free/ for Knapp and Bronte, but he apparently /doesn't' have a paying gig/. You can't make this stuff up! *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:04 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife I would think that it should be obvious by now that all *four* of the former MGC are obsessed with Barry. :-) What's hilarious to me is that all of them -- Ann, Jim, Richard, and Nabby -- seem to have jumped onto the He's being paid to say evil shit about TM Maharishi boat. It used to be that only Nabby said stuff that crazy and paranoid, and only about me and Curtis and Rick. But now the others are that crazy, too. I certainly hope that the lurking reporters are having as much fun with this as I am. They, after all, know that they originally contacted me, not vice-versa. They should also know that if I was supposed to be getting paid to write the kinds of things I write here, none of their checks have ever made it to me. They should get right on that! :-) *From:* Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2014 4:39 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife I think its official - Ann is obsessed with Barry. *From:* awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:46 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Ahem. *Someone* should point out that what Lawson posted below is neither fact nor factoid, just a bunch of hearsay presented without any documentation whatsoever. It's a CLAIM. There is not a single reference, not a single quote from anyone, nothing that can be verified. And yet the people piling on as if Lawson had won some imagined battle by making this unsubstantiated claim accept this CLAIM as if it's Truth Incarnate, simply because it perpetuates their own long-held cult beliefs. Odd group, if you ask me. One guy believes that King Tony really IS a king, It shouldn't take a genius to realize that Barry is the guy living in a Kingdom of Netherlands. You just can't make this stuff up. The gift that keeps on giving. On 8/4/2014 9:11 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sometimes you hit the jackpot, Ricardo. What if you woke up in the morning and found out that an anonymous informant had taken over the whole newsgroup, planting false flags and trying to stir up trouble by talking about other people's wives and their private sex life? What if you found out that the informant was working for a science magazine and then reporting back to himself? Well, it would explain why bawee appears to be a freak of nature, not a real red-blooded human at all. The more I read what he posts here the more I am convinced he might be some programmed robot-type experimental entity created by those who are interested in real red-blooded human beings' reactions to the crap he posts here. Unfortunately, often it seems like the programming hits a snag where this bawee entity keeps repeating and repeating itself, if not in actual duplicate sentences then in memes. The robot needs a tune up or some re-booting or some new software or something.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I think its official - Ann is obsessed with Barry. Well Judy did say she'd multiply herself many times. Or was that Marshy? I've been trying my best to stay out of this -- and succeeding -- but LOL. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors
Sentence II of the week: It is an effect that straddles science and metaphysics, and nothing for simpletons to try and tackle - it hurts their little brains ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Key word is kids. They will be very powerful, once they grow up, but what we need are adult siddhas and or governors. No, there is nothing wrong with the theory - it is simply an extension of what occurs naturally, with TM, on the individual level. However, it is plainly impossible to explain this, to those who do not practice TM. Like trying to describe the flavor of an apple, without the fruit. No big deal - it seems to drive those without a clear sense of how stress is reduced, sort of crazy, and I am more than happy to let them deal with that, on their own. The Maharishi Effect was not designed to be a point of argument and finger pointing. It is an effect that straddles science and metaphysics, and nothing for simpletons to try and tackle - it hurts their little brains. The only way to understand it, is to do TM - period. Otherwise, the lack of clarity, and large amounts of stress, in the minds of those who are not at peace, will forever be a barrier to comprehension of the ME. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : No need, there are apparently 300,000 kids in Marshy schools in India, that's world peace right there. Unless something isn't right with the theory ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I agree. I am a little surprised that the TMO hasn't done this, as a continuation of Maharishi's initiatives. Of course, there are enough hot spots that it could be an issue to fund all of them. Maharishi always wanted countries to recognize the value of his programs on their own, but it is something very tough to do, while fighting a war. Jordan may be safe enough, and close enough, and friendly enough, for a group of Sidhas, though I can't think of anyplace else. I seem to recall this was done, at least once before in possibly Lebanon? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You are exaggerating as usual. There is no point in putting people in harm's way, which would be grossly irresponsible. That was never the idea. The Maharishi effect doesn't mean that all violence ceases immediately or that you could meditate as a group in the middle of a battlefield and come out unscathed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Oh no! Let 'em put up or shut up! Let 'em go to where the rockets are flying and do so at their own expense. If it really works the way they claim, they will be in no danger. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors I think they should try it. Nothing else is working. It's just the usual, endless round of violence. The TM group wouldn't have to go into the most dangerous areas. Just being close would probably do it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Thank you Nabby for posting this bold article. Here is the comment I posted on the site - let's see if they have the balls to allow it to be posted: As a former practitioner of transcendental meditation, I know that you are a shill for the TM Movement. You are also not giving full information in your article. IDT refers to the TM Sidhi program, the one that purports to enable people to levitate. In no way shape or form is this nonsense scientifically validated. But let's give you the benefit of the doubt - you want to prove this voodoo technology works then I challenge you to personally lead a group into the most dangerous and violent sections of Israel and the Gaza strip. Let the TM Movement pay every penny of the expense in supporting such a group rather than begging the rest of the world to financially support you (which is your actual intent in suggesting such a group) and see how long you last. I do suggest you make sure to give the Israeli authorities the names of your next of kin, I expect they will need them. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors An Outsider's View of How to Calm Middle East-Gaza Tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension
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Thanks for proving my point, MJ. Spot on. Raving maniacs, like you and your fellow cult addict, Barry, will never give credence to the ME. Just as in another era, you two would disparage and denigrate the automobile, because people occasionally have accidents when driving in one. Enjoy your stone age lifestyles. Oh, and don't forget to prattle on about this stuff, you and whatshisname, to avoid thinking about whatever it is that is really going on, in your real lives. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : So like I said, let 'em put up or shut up - the TM Movement likes to brag about how they sent men into Iran years ago and made everything peaceful - come on, let em go to Israel and prove their bullshit and let them pay for it. This article is just another gambit by the TMO to get money - IF their schtick was credible and effective, and IF they really were concerned with peace, they would be sending groups around at their own expense and PROVING what they continue to yap about. The fact that they do not send in groups at their own expense is indicative that they are wanting someone else to foot the bill and when peace doesn't come it will pave the way for more exhortations to give more and get more siddhas there, just like the assholes did after the pundit riot in Fairfield. Fuck, even Frances Bennett thinks the TMO is a cult. Why can't you boys see it? From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors Key word is kids. They will be very powerful, once they grow up, but what we need are adult siddhas and or governors. No, there is nothing wrong with the theory - it is simply an extension of what occurs naturally, with TM, on the individual level. However, it is plainly impossible to explain this, to those who do not practice TM. Like trying to describe the flavor of an apple, without the fruit. No big deal - it seems to drive those without a clear sense of how stress is reduced, sort of crazy, and I am more than happy to let them deal with that, on their own. The Maharishi Effect was not designed to be a point of argument and finger pointing. It is an effect that straddles science and metaphysics, and nothing for simpletons to try and tackle - it hurts their little brains. The only way to understand it, is to do TM - period. Otherwise, the lack of clarity, and large amounts of stress, in the minds of those who are not at peace, will forever be a barrier to comprehension of the ME. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : No need, there are apparently 300,000 kids in Marshy schools in India, that's world peace right there. Unless something isn't right with the theory ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I agree. I am a little surprised that the TMO hasn't done this, as a continuation of Maharishi's initiatives. Of course, there are enough hot spots that it could be an issue to fund all of them. Maharishi always wanted countries to recognize the value of his programs on their own, but it is something very tough to do, while fighting a war. Jordan may be safe enough, and close enough, and friendly enough, for a group of Sidhas, though I can't think of anyplace else. I seem to recall this was done, at least once before in possibly Lebanon? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You are exaggerating as usual. There is no point in putting people in harm's way, which would be grossly irresponsible. That was never the idea. The Maharishi effect doesn't mean that all violence ceases immediately or that you could meditate as a group in the middle of a battlefield and come out unscathed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Oh no! Let 'em put up or shut up! Let 'em go to where the rockets are flying and do so at their own expense. If it really works the way they claim, they will be in no danger. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors I think they should try it. Nothing else is working. It's just the usual, endless round of violence. The TM group wouldn't have to go into the most dangerous areas. Just being close would probably do it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Thank you Nabby for posting this bold article. Here is the comment I posted on the site - let's see if they have the balls to allow it to be posted: As a former practitioner of transcendental meditation, I know that you are a shill for the TM Movement. You are also not giving full information in your article. IDT refers to the TM Sidhi program, the one that
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun With IQs (was Re: Tony Nader wife)
On 8/5/2014 11:13 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com But FYI, if I had designed BarryWorld only to be navigable by those with an IQ over 120, I wouldn't have bothered to post it to Fairfield Life. :-) Just as a fun followup, Just as a followup, TB's favorite musician was probably an informant planting false flags all over the planet. It's just amazing how many of these players came from families with military connections: Jimi Hendrix, Alice Cooper, John Phillips, Mike Nesmith, Stephen Stills, Neil Young, Mama Cass, Jim Morrison, David Crosby, Frank Zappa - the list just goes on and on, to the point where it's news when you find a singer whose family did NOT work for the U.S. military. Some of these musicians were probably knocked off early because they knew too much. Go figure. It's no secret that almost the whole music and film business is controlled by the federal government as a propaganda tool and that the TB is one of their biggest customers. There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear. There's a man with a gun over there. - Stephen Stills after jokingly posting this earlier today, just now in this cafe I stumbled upon a web IQ test. Natch, I had to take it. I didn't expect to do very well, having just finished drinking two Westmalle Tripels, and didn't -- only 132. My quick IQ is 132! What's yours? https://memorado.com/iqtest?r=132 image https://memorado.com/iqtest?r=132 My quick IQ is 132! What's yours? https://memorado.com/iqtest?r=132 Only 1 in 50 is as smart as I am! View on memorado.com https://memorado.com/iqtest?r=132 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
He does have some balls to admit he is an official informant. So, I wonder how much he gets paid by the lurking reporters? Go figure. What makes you think reporters will pay a guy who admits he only talks to people who have had two beers and a joint ? His guru the Dolly Lama is broke and only leaves his safe haven amongst the Hindus in India upon invitation with all expenses prepaid, so who would pay an old guy obsessed with something that happened to him more than 40 years ago leaning rather heavily on substance abuse ? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/5/2014 9:50 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : I think its official - Ann is obsessed with Barry. Dammit MJ, you've blown my cover of derision and indifference and sussed it out for what it really is. Maybe you could read my jyotish chart or channel for me now, you obviously have a gift. He does have some balls to admit he is an official informant. So, I wonder how much he gets paid by the lurking reporters? Go figure. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:awoelflebater@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : Ahem. *Someone* should point out that what Lawson posted below is neither fact nor factoid, just a bunch of hearsay presented without any documentation whatsoever. It's a CLAIM. There is not a single reference, not a single quote from anyone, nothing that can be verified. And yet the people piling on as if Lawson had won some imagined battle by making this unsubstantiated claim accept this CLAIM as if it's Truth Incarnate, simply because it perpetuates their own long-held cult beliefs. Odd group, if you ask me. One guy believes that King Tony really IS a king, It shouldn't take a genius to realize that Barry is the guy living in a Kingdom of Netherlands. You just can't make this stuff up. The gift that keeps on giving. On 8/4/2014 9:11 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sometimes you hit the jackpot, Ricardo. What if you woke up in the morning and found out that an anonymous informant had taken over the whole newsgroup, planting false flags and trying to stir up trouble by talking about other people's wives and their private sex life? What if you found out that the informant was working for a science magazine and then reporting back to himself? Well, it would explain why bawee appears to be a freak of nature, not a real red-blooded human at all. The more I read what he posts here the more I am convinced he might be some programmed robot-type experimental entity created by those who are interested in real red-blooded human beings' reactions to the crap he posts here. Unfortunately, often it seems like the programming hits a snag where this bawee entity keeps repeating and repeating itself, if not in actual duplicate sentences then in memes. The robot needs a tune up or some re-booting or some new software or something.
Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors
Thanks again! Just pointing out the obvious - lol. Have you noticed that those most critical of all things TM, aren't very bright? Arguing for their limitations, the ego is a weird animal. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Sentence II of the week: It is an effect that straddles science and metaphysics, and nothing for simpletons to try and tackle - it hurts their little brains ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Key word is kids. They will be very powerful, once they grow up, but what we need are adult siddhas and or governors. No, there is nothing wrong with the theory - it is simply an extension of what occurs naturally, with TM, on the individual level. However, it is plainly impossible to explain this, to those who do not practice TM. Like trying to describe the flavor of an apple, without the fruit. No big deal - it seems to drive those without a clear sense of how stress is reduced, sort of crazy, and I am more than happy to let them deal with that, on their own. The Maharishi Effect was not designed to be a point of argument and finger pointing. It is an effect that straddles science and metaphysics, and nothing for simpletons to try and tackle - it hurts their little brains. The only way to understand it, is to do TM - period. Otherwise, the lack of clarity, and large amounts of stress, in the minds of those who are not at peace, will forever be a barrier to comprehension of the ME. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : No need, there are apparently 300,000 kids in Marshy schools in India, that's world peace right there. Unless something isn't right with the theory ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I agree. I am a little surprised that the TMO hasn't done this, as a continuation of Maharishi's initiatives. Of course, there are enough hot spots that it could be an issue to fund all of them. Maharishi always wanted countries to recognize the value of his programs on their own, but it is something very tough to do, while fighting a war. Jordan may be safe enough, and close enough, and friendly enough, for a group of Sidhas, though I can't think of anyplace else. I seem to recall this was done, at least once before in possibly Lebanon? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You are exaggerating as usual. There is no point in putting people in harm's way, which would be grossly irresponsible. That was never the idea. The Maharishi effect doesn't mean that all violence ceases immediately or that you could meditate as a group in the middle of a battlefield and come out unscathed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Oh no! Let 'em put up or shut up! Let 'em go to where the rockets are flying and do so at their own expense. If it really works the way they claim, they will be in no danger. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors I think they should try it. Nothing else is working. It's just the usual, endless round of violence. The TM group wouldn't have to go into the most dangerous areas. Just being close would probably do it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Thank you Nabby for posting this bold article. Here is the comment I posted on the site - let's see if they have the balls to allow it to be posted: As a former practitioner of transcendental meditation, I know that you are a shill for the TM Movement. You are also not giving full information in your article. IDT refers to the TM Sidhi program, the one that purports to enable people to levitate. In no way shape or form is this nonsense scientifically validated. But let's give you the benefit of the doubt - you want to prove this voodoo technology works then I challenge you to personally lead a group into the most dangerous and violent sections of Israel and the Gaza strip. Let the TM Movement pay every penny of the expense in supporting such a group rather than begging the rest of the world to financially support you (which is your actual intent in suggesting such a group) and see how long you last. I do suggest you make sure to give the Israeli authorities the names of your next of kin, I expect they will need them. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors An Outsider's View of How to Calm Middle East-Gaza Tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
On 8/5/2014 11:15 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I'll set you up with my agent. According to Nabby, he's the one who got me the well-paying gigs with the CIA and the Dalai Lama. :-) So, it's official - we now know that there are at least two informants on this list, one with an agent. *From:* Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2014 5:55 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife Damn, I wish I could get a gig like that - I have always been content telling the truth about TM and other sycophantic cults for free. *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:04 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife I would think that it should be obvious by now that all *four* of the former MGC are obsessed with Barry. :-) What's hilarious to me is that all of them -- Ann, Jim, Richard, and Nabby -- seem to have jumped onto the He's being paid to say evil shit about TM Maharishi boat. It used to be that only Nabby said stuff that crazy and paranoid, and only about me and Curtis and Rick. But now the others are that crazy, too. I certainly hope that the lurking reporters are having as much fun with this as I am. They, after all, know that they originally contacted me, not vice-versa. They should also know that if I was supposed to be getting paid to write the kinds of things I write here, none of their checks have ever made it to me. They should get right on that! :-) *From:* Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2014 4:39 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife I think its official - Ann is obsessed with Barry. *From:* awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:46 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Ahem. *Someone* should point out that what Lawson posted below is neither fact nor factoid, just a bunch of hearsay presented without any documentation whatsoever. It's a CLAIM. There is not a single reference, not a single quote from anyone, nothing that can be verified. And yet the people piling on as if Lawson had won some imagined battle by making this unsubstantiated claim accept this CLAIM as if it's Truth Incarnate, simply because it perpetuates their own long-held cult beliefs. Odd group, if you ask me. One guy believes that King Tony really IS a king, It shouldn't take a genius to realize that Barry is the guy living in a Kingdom of Netherlands. You just can't make this stuff up. The gift that keeps on giving. On 8/4/2014 9:11 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sometimes you hit the jackpot, Ricardo. What if you woke up in the morning and found out that an anonymous informant had taken over the whole newsgroup, planting false flags and trying to stir up trouble by talking about other people's wives and their private sex life? What if you found out that the informant was working for a science magazine and then reporting back to himself? Well, it would explain why bawee appears to be a freak of nature, not a real red-blooded human at all. The more I read what he posts here the more I am convinced he might be some programmed robot-type experimental entity created by those who are interested in real red-blooded human beings' reactions to the crap he posts here. Unfortunately, often it seems like the programming hits a snag where this bawee entity keeps repeating and repeating itself, if not in actual duplicate sentences then in memes. The robot needs a tune up or some re-booting or some new software or something.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
On 08/05/2014 09:47 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 08/04/2014 11:23 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Sorry, but I was testing you to find how deep your knowledge of science in terms of astronomy is if you wanted to disprove astrology. Well you failed miserably old chap. The Earth - as I keep pointing out - is not the centre of the galaxy. There are no houses and most constellations don't actually exist, they are line of sight conveniences. And planets do not go backwards. No it's YOU who doesn't get it. Certainly the sun is the center of our *solar system *not the *galaxy. *As I pointed out if you are an astronomer and want to locate a body in the sky then you are going to do that from your point on *earth* not the *sun. *I don't think anyone wants to move their telescope to the sun. It gets a little hot there. Houses do show the effects of the house in astrology. Why, we don't know but there are theories. Constellations of course were named so that people could locate them in the sky by seeing the shape. No, planets do not go backwards. Retrogrades are a visual effect. Not all astrologers use them and particularly they are often not used in jyotish at all. Astrology disproves itself by failing to take any of this into account. As I said above you're wrong again. It takes an iron age view of the cosmos, it's all moved on so much it's hilarious that anyone might still think that the position of some of the planets at the time of their birth (why then?) might be relevant to the rest of their lives or even their personality. We've much better explanations for how personalities develop. The stars are as distant from us as we are from them. So there aint nuthin wrong with my knowledge of astronomy Except you don't seem to actually know much about it. You would have recognized those famous astronomy names. You seem to be from the University of WillyTex. :-D but the beauty of that statement is that it's out of date as soon as I type it, because knowledge doesn't stand still, unless you still use a horoscope drawn up before they'd even discovered there were planets beyond Saturn. LOL. What kind of astrology charts did you draw up? Tropical? That would explain a lot. Tropical astrologers hang stuff off comets and asteroids that NASA can't even predict where they'll be. Bottom line is that patterns exists. There really isn't any randomness in our world. *That* is an illusion. Patterns replicate themselves throughout nature. Also some research has shown that solar storms can effect the behavior of humans on earth. There is often social upheaval during these times. I let you go so you can grab some of those fresh peanuts that have just been roasted. :-D Just kiddin' Seriously, I like peanuts and I'd be happy to be convinced about astrology. My mind is open, and besides, I'd really like that lottery win! Did you buy any tickets? You can't win unless you buy a ticket. :-D PS: you get a D for today.
Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors
Maharishi's technologies for creating peace was demonstrated again and again in the 70'ies and 80'ies. No need for any more demonstrations. It is well documented and it's now up to responsible leaders in the world to implement these technologies at a fraction of the costs of waging wars. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I agree. I am a little surprised that the TMO hasn't done this, as a continuation of Maharishi's initiatives. Of course, there are enough hot spots that it could be an issue to fund all of them. Maharishi always wanted countries to recognize the value of his programs on their own, but it is something very tough to do, while fighting a war. Jordan may be safe enough, and close enough, and friendly enough, for a group of Sidhas, though I can't think of anyplace else. I seem to recall this was done, at least once before in possibly Lebanon? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You are exaggerating as usual. There is no point in putting people in harm's way, which would be grossly irresponsible. That was never the idea. The Maharishi effect doesn't mean that all violence ceases immediately or that you could meditate as a group in the middle of a battlefield and come out unscathed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Oh no! Let 'em put up or shut up! Let 'em go to where the rockets are flying and do so at their own expense. If it really works the way they claim, they will be in no danger. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors I think they should try it. Nothing else is working. It's just the usual, endless round of violence. The TM group wouldn't have to go into the most dangerous areas. Just being close would probably do it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Thank you Nabby for posting this bold article. Here is the comment I posted on the site - let's see if they have the balls to allow it to be posted: As a former practitioner of transcendental meditation, I know that you are a shill for the TM Movement. You are also not giving full information in your article. IDT refers to the TM Sidhi program, the one that purports to enable people to levitate. In no way shape or form is this nonsense scientifically validated. But let's give you the benefit of the doubt - you want to prove this voodoo technology works then I challenge you to personally lead a group into the most dangerous and violent sections of Israel and the Gaza strip. Let the TM Movement pay every penny of the expense in supporting such a group rather than begging the rest of the world to financially support you (which is your actual intent in suggesting such a group) and see how long you last. I do suggest you make sure to give the Israeli authorities the names of your next of kin, I expect they will need them. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors An Outsider's View of How to Calm Middle East-Gaza Tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : LOL - Hilarious! Especially that this photo-shopped flying guru was Barry's Master and Teacher for so many years! What a hoot! Yeah, Cult-Buster Barry at the ready! Hey, MJ, what say you about your favorite TM basher on here, and the ridiculous fraud that he followed and revered, as an incarnation of Vishnu, no less, for years and years?? Are you sure it bolsters your street cred? You may want to think about your slavish and thoughtless support of this former cult addict. Reformed cultists are always the most obnoxious, I find. The chip on bawee's shoulder could build a log cabin and now he's confusing the original MG and claiming Richard and Nabby were part of that! He needs to keep his clubs and cults straight. You'd think for a guy who is paid he would do a better job of organizing his categories here. If he isn't careful the reporters will find another buffoon to front their psychological profiling experiments. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/4/2014 6:57 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Lawson, it's really difficult to believe you're as unintelligent as you come across sometimes. *ONLY* a cultist could *possibly* believe that Tony Nader is King of something, anything. The billion bucks was definitely tracked as income and assets of the TMO. However, the same people who did the tracking admit that no one knows where the money is now. It was redirected from other countries to Maharishi's relatives, a black hole into which it has disappeared, probably never to be seen again. If that's your idea of a kingdom, I wish you well with it. When it comes to silly, very little on planet Earth could possibly top the silliness of someone who actually believes that Tony Nader is a King who could pass along his kingdom to his progeny. Zen Master Rama levitating over water You're simply not sane if you believe that, Lawson.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
On 8/5/2014 11:51 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Cool! I am available for $100,000 a year, US dollars. But, can you write science articles? An /informant/ is only as good as the information they can provide. Is there anything else you can say about your qualifications, other than that you once baked a few cupcakes for student and faculty at the MIU campus over thirty years ago? *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2014 12:15 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife I'll set you up with my agent. According to Nabby, he's the one who got me the well-paying gigs with the CIA and the Dalai Lama. :-) *From:* Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2014 5:55 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife Damn, I wish I could get a gig like that - I have always been content telling the truth about TM and other sycophantic cults for free. *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:04 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife I would think that it should be obvious by now that all *four* of the former MGC are obsessed with Barry. :-) What's hilarious to me is that all of them -- Ann, Jim, Richard, and Nabby -- seem to have jumped onto the He's being paid to say evil shit about TM Maharishi boat. It used to be that only Nabby said stuff that crazy and paranoid, and only about me and Curtis and Rick. But now the others are that crazy, too. I certainly hope that the lurking reporters are having as much fun with this as I am. They, after all, know that they originally contacted me, not vice-versa. They should also know that if I was supposed to be getting paid to write the kinds of things I write here, none of their checks have ever made it to me. They should get right on that! :-) *From:* Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2014 4:39 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife I think its official - Ann is obsessed with Barry. *From:* awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:46 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Ahem. *Someone* should point out that what Lawson posted below is neither fact nor factoid, just a bunch of hearsay presented without any documentation whatsoever. It's a CLAIM. There is not a single reference, not a single quote from anyone, nothing that can be verified. And yet the people piling on as if Lawson had won some imagined battle by making this unsubstantiated claim accept this CLAIM as if it's Truth Incarnate, simply because it perpetuates their own long-held cult beliefs. Odd group, if you ask me. One guy believes that King Tony really IS a king, It shouldn't take a genius to realize that Barry is the guy living in a Kingdom of Netherlands. You just can't make this stuff up. The gift that keeps on giving. On 8/4/2014 9:11 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sometimes you hit the jackpot, Ricardo. What if you woke up in the morning and found out that an anonymous informant had taken over the whole newsgroup, planting false flags and trying to stir up trouble by talking about other people's wives and their private sex life? What if you found out that the informant was working for a science magazine and then reporting back to himself? Well, it would explain why bawee appears to be a freak of nature, not a real red-blooded human at all. The more I read what he posts here the more I am convinced he might be some programmed robot-type experimental entity created by those who are interested in real red-blooded human beings' reactions to the crap he posts here. Unfortunately, often it seems like the programming hits a snag where this bawee entity keeps repeating and repeating itself, if not in
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : But I heard you did the Dalai Lama for free?? bawee evidently thinks we believe him when he says there are lurking reporters and he has been used as a front for them to allow them to see into our innermost cultish psyches. When do you think we should tell him the truth that we're just playing with him? Do you think perhaps it is him that these lurking reporters are studying? Nah, they would have had him figured after the first two or three posts. Anyway, I am a little jealous that Nabby has chosen TWO of your sentences this week to win awards even though I have to agree with him on the choices. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I'll set you up with my agent. According to Nabby, he's the one who got me the well-paying gigs with the CIA and the Dalai Lama. :-) From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife Damn, I wish I could get a gig like that - I have always been content telling the truth about TM and other sycophantic cults for free. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife I would think that it should be obvious by now that all *four* of the former MGC are obsessed with Barry. :-) What's hilarious to me is that all of them -- Ann, Jim, Richard, and Nabby -- seem to have jumped onto the He's being paid to say evil shit about TM Maharishi boat. It used to be that only Nabby said stuff that crazy and paranoid, and only about me and Curtis and Rick. But now the others are that crazy, too. I certainly hope that the lurking reporters are having as much fun with this as I am. They, after all, know that they originally contacted me, not vice-versa. They should also know that if I was supposed to be getting paid to write the kinds of things I write here, none of their checks have ever made it to me. They should get right on that! :-) From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife I think its official - Ann is obsessed with Barry. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Ahem. *Someone* should point out that what Lawson posted below is neither fact nor factoid, just a bunch of hearsay presented without any documentation whatsoever. It's a CLAIM. There is not a single reference, not a single quote from anyone, nothing that can be verified. And yet the people piling on as if Lawson had won some imagined battle by making this unsubstantiated claim accept this CLAIM as if it's Truth Incarnate, simply because it perpetuates their own long-held cult beliefs. Odd group, if you ask me. One guy believes that King Tony really IS a king, It shouldn't take a genius to realize that Barry is the guy living in a Kingdom of Netherlands. You just can't make this stuff up. The gift that keeps on giving. On 8/4/2014 9:11 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sometimes you hit the jackpot, Ricardo. What if you woke up in the morning and found out that an anonymous informant had taken over the whole newsgroup, planting false flags and trying to stir up trouble by talking about other people's wives and their private sex life? What if you found out that the informant was working for a science magazine and then reporting back to himself? Well, it would explain why bawee appears to be a freak of nature, not a real red-blooded human at all. The more I read what he posts here the more I am convinced he might be some programmed robot-type experimental entity created by those who are interested in real red-blooded human beings' reactions to the crap he posts here. Unfortunately, often it seems like the programming hits a snag where this bawee entity keeps repeating and repeating itself, if not in actual duplicate sentences then in memes. The robot needs a tune up or some re-booting or some new software or something.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
Reformed cultists are always the most obnoxious I agree, a real pain in the ass. The same characteristics that made them thoughtless zombie cultists, works the same way, once they decide to share their insights with the rest of us, less extreme, more normal, people. Once they get going, all one has to do, is look into their backgrounds, and find a whole lot of crazy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : LOL - Hilarious! Especially that this photo-shopped flying guru was Barry's Master and Teacher for so many years! What a hoot! Yeah, Cult-Buster Barry at the ready! Hey, MJ, what say you about your favorite TM basher on here, and the ridiculous fraud that he followed and revered, as an incarnation of Vishnu, no less, for years and years?? Are you sure it bolsters your street cred? You may want to think about your slavish and thoughtless support of this former cult addict. Reformed cultists are always the most obnoxious, I find. The chip on bawee's shoulder could build a log cabin and now he's confusing the original MG and claiming Richard and Nabby were part of that! He needs to keep his clubs and cults straight. You'd think for a guy who is paid he would do a better job of organizing his categories here. If he isn't careful the reporters will find another buffoon to front their psychological profiling experiments. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/4/2014 6:57 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Lawson, it's really difficult to believe you're as unintelligent as you come across sometimes. *ONLY* a cultist could *possibly* believe that Tony Nader is King of something, anything. The billion bucks was definitely tracked as income and assets of the TMO. However, the same people who did the tracking admit that no one knows where the money is now. It was redirected from other countries to Maharishi's relatives, a black hole into which it has disappeared, probably never to be seen again. If that's your idea of a kingdom, I wish you well with it. When it comes to silly, very little on planet Earth could possibly top the silliness of someone who actually believes that Tony Nader is a King who could pass along his kingdom to his progeny. Zen Master Rama levitating over water You're simply not sane if you believe that, Lawson.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 08/05/2014 09:47 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 08/04/2014 11:23 PM, salyavin808 wrote: No it's YOU who doesn't get it. Certainly the sun is the center of our solar system not the galaxy. But horoscopes use other stars in the galaxy that are assumed (wrongly) to rotate around us too. They call them constellations. As I pointed out if you are an astronomer and want to locate a body in the sky then you are going to do that from your point on earth not the sun. This doesn't change the fact that astrology assumes the sun goes round the Earth. I don't think anyone wants to move their telescope to the sun. It gets a little hot there. Houses do show the effects of the house in astrology. Why, we don't know but there are theories. Constellations of course were named so that people could locate them in the sky by seeing the shape. The sky is divided into twelve houses to match the twelve lunar periods, or months. They aren't real in any objective way. Happy to help. Obviously they do not and can not have any effect on us, they are totally arbitrary and any claimed effect is anthropomorphism writ large. I convert for evidence. No, planets do not go backwards. Retrogrades are a visual effect. Not all astrologers use them and particularly they are often not used in jyotish at all. This is another thing that gives it away. Why are there so many different types and all apparent;y doing it in a different way? And most likely with their own adherents that claim theirs is the best way. If it were a true description of human affairs you would only need one, and it would be a lot more obvious than it appears to be, even to other astrologers. Astrology disproves itself by failing to take any of this into account. As I said above you're wrong again. It takes an iron age view of the cosmos, it's all moved on so much it's hilarious that anyone might still think that the position of some of the planets at the time of their birth (why then?) might be relevant to the rest of their lives or even their personality. We've much better explanations for how personalities develop. The stars are as distant from us as we are from them. So there aint nuthin wrong with my knowledge of astronomy Except you don't seem to actually know much about it. You would have recognized those famous astronomy names. Why? Sky mapping is a rather small part of astronomy. Maybe your predelictions have biased you towards this presumed importance? I'm much more interested in large scale cosmology anyway, the inadvertently minded anthropomorphism of prehistoric star gazers has little appeal, you can only read about it so many times without losing interest when there are so many major discoveries being made. You seem to be from the University of WillyTex. :-D Now that's fighting talk! but the beauty of that statement is that it's out of date as soon as I type it, because knowledge doesn't stand still, unless you still use a horoscope drawn up before they'd even discovered there were planets beyond Saturn. LOL. What kind of astrology charts did you draw up? Tropical? That would explain a lot. Tropical astrologers hang stuff off comets and asteroids that NASA can't even predict where they'll be. See above, if they can all be wrong by a matter of opinion, they are probably all wrong. Period. You can always tell a bad theory by how many variables you can change and still claim that it's working. In this case the claimed effects are almost certainly caused by something else otherwise it wouldn't be so vague and opinion dependent. Bottom line is that patterns exists. There really isn't any randomness in our world. That is an illusion. There you go living in the past again, quantum physics is pure randomness. But the large scale is generally highly predictable, sure. But we imagine patterns in the sky, you may think you draw parallels but blind testing gives that the lie. Patterns replicate themselves throughout nature. Also some research has shown that solar storms can effect the behavior of humans on earth. There is often social upheaval during these times. Myth and rumour. Just like the idea that the moon effects us. Sheer lunacy... I let you go so you can grab some of those fresh peanuts that have just been roasted. :-D Just kiddin' Seriously, I like peanuts and I'd be happy to be convinced about astrology. My mind is open, and besides, I'd really like that lottery win! Did you buy any tickets? You can't win unless you buy a ticket. :-D PS: you get a D for today. That must be D for destructively dynamic discourse.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
I think it is better to keep secret the fact that we find these ex cult addicts hilarious and entertaining. I doubt they would take kindly to discovering that they are the laughing stocks of this forum - so let's just keep it between you and me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : But I heard you did the Dalai Lama for free?? bawee evidently thinks we believe him when he says there are lurking reporters and he has been used as a front for them to allow them to see into our innermost cultish psyches. When do you think we should tell him the truth that we're just playing with him? Do you think perhaps it is him that these lurking reporters are studying? Nah, they would have had him figured after the first two or three posts. Anyway, I am a little jealous that Nabby has chosen TWO of your sentences this week to win awards even though I have to agree with him on the choices. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I'll set you up with my agent. According to Nabby, he's the one who got me the well-paying gigs with the CIA and the Dalai Lama. :-) From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife Damn, I wish I could get a gig like that - I have always been content telling the truth about TM and other sycophantic cults for free. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife I would think that it should be obvious by now that all *four* of the former MGC are obsessed with Barry. :-) What's hilarious to me is that all of them -- Ann, Jim, Richard, and Nabby -- seem to have jumped onto the He's being paid to say evil shit about TM Maharishi boat. It used to be that only Nabby said stuff that crazy and paranoid, and only about me and Curtis and Rick. But now the others are that crazy, too. I certainly hope that the lurking reporters are having as much fun with this as I am. They, after all, know that they originally contacted me, not vice-versa. They should also know that if I was supposed to be getting paid to write the kinds of things I write here, none of their checks have ever made it to me. They should get right on that! :-) From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife I think its official - Ann is obsessed with Barry. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Ahem. *Someone* should point out that what Lawson posted below is neither fact nor factoid, just a bunch of hearsay presented without any documentation whatsoever. It's a CLAIM. There is not a single reference, not a single quote from anyone, nothing that can be verified. And yet the people piling on as if Lawson had won some imagined battle by making this unsubstantiated claim accept this CLAIM as if it's Truth Incarnate, simply because it perpetuates their own long-held cult beliefs. Odd group, if you ask me. One guy believes that King Tony really IS a king, It shouldn't take a genius to realize that Barry is the guy living in a Kingdom of Netherlands. You just can't make this stuff up. The gift that keeps on giving. On 8/4/2014 9:11 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sometimes you hit the jackpot, Ricardo. What if you woke up in the morning and found out that an anonymous informant had taken over the whole newsgroup, planting false flags and trying to stir up trouble by talking about other people's wives and their private sex life? What if you found out that the informant was working for a science magazine and then reporting back to himself? Well, it would explain why bawee appears to be a freak of nature, not a real red-blooded human at all. The more I read what he posts here the more I am convinced he might be some programmed robot-type experimental entity created by those who are interested in real red-blooded human beings' reactions to the crap he posts here. Unfortunately, often it seems like the programming hits a snag where this bawee entity keeps repeating and repeating itself, if not in actual duplicate sentences then in memes. The robot needs a tune up or
Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors
if they can prove it, I'll be the first to take up TMSP again - let 'em prove it with something other than asking us to take their word for it. From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors Thanks for proving my point, MJ. Spot on. Raving maniacs, like you and your fellow cult addict, Barry, will never give credence to the ME. Just as in another era, you two would disparage and denigratethe automobile, because people occasionally have accidents when driving in one. Enjoy your stone age lifestyles. Oh, and don't forget to prattle on about this stuff, you and whatshisname, to avoid thinking about whatever it is that is really going on, in your real lives. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : So like I said, let 'em put up or shut up - the TM Movement likes to brag about how they sent men into Iran years ago and made everything peaceful - come on, let em go to Israel and prove their bullshit and let them pay for it. This article is just another gambit by the TMO to get money - IF their schtick was credible and effective, and IF they really were concerned with peace, they would be sending groups around at their own expense and PROVING what they continue to yap about. The fact that they do not send in groups at their own expense is indicative that they are wanting someone else to foot the bill and when peace doesn't come it will pave the way for more exhortations to give more and get more siddhas there, just like the assholes did after the pundit riot in Fairfield. Fuck, even Frances Bennett thinks the TMO is a cult. Why can't you boys see it? From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors Key word is kids. They will be very powerful, once they grow up, but what we need are adult siddhas and or governors. No, there is nothing wrong with the theory - it is simply an extension of what occurs naturally, with TM, on the individual level. However, it is plainly impossible to explain this, to those who do not practice TM. Like trying to describe the flavor of an apple, without the fruit. No big deal - it seems to drive those without a clear sense of how stress is reduced, sort of crazy, and I am more than happy to let them deal with that, on their own. The Maharishi Effect was not designed to be a point of argument and finger pointing. It is an effect that straddles science and metaphysics, and nothing for simpletons to try and tackle - it hurts their little brains. The only way to understand it, is to do TM - period. Otherwise, the lack of clarity, and large amounts of stress, in the minds of those who are not at peace, will forever be a barrier to comprehension of the ME. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : No need, there are apparently 300,000 kids in Marshy schools in India, that's world peace right there. Unless something isn't right with the theory ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I agree. I am a little surprised that the TMO hasn't done this, as a continuation of Maharishi's initiatives. Of course, there are enough hot spots that it could be an issue to fund all of them. Maharishi always wanted countries to recognize the value of his programs on their own, but it is something very tough to do, while fighting a war. Jordan may be safe enough, and close enough, and friendly enough, for a group of Sidhas, though I can't think of anyplace else. I seem to recall this was done, at least once before in possibly Lebanon? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You are exaggerating as usual. There is no point in putting people in harm's way, which would be grossly irresponsible. That was never the idea. The Maharishi effect doesn't mean that all violence ceases immediately or that you could meditate as a group in the middle of a battlefield and come out unscathed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Oh no! Let 'em put up or shut up! Let 'em go to where the rockets are flying and do so at their own expense. If it really works the way they claim, they will be in no danger. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors I think they should try it. Nothing else is working. It's just the usual, endless round of violence. The TM group wouldn't have to go into the most dangerous areas. Just being close would probably do
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On 8/5/2014 12:15 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: LOL - Hilarious! Especially that this photo-shopped flying guru was Barry's Master and Teacher for so many years! What a hoot! Yeah, Cult-Buster Barry at the ready! Apparently Barry altered this photo to make it look like Lenz was levitating over water. Which brings up the question - why is it the guilty True Believers like Barry, always scream the loudest? Hey, MJ, what say you about your favorite TM basher on here, and the ridiculous fraud that he followed and revered, as an incarnation of Vishnu, no less, for years and years?? Are you sure it bolsters your street cred? You may want to think about your slavish and thoughtless support of this former cult addict. My theory is that Barry is still under mind-control or in a trance-induction state and he has been programmed to act as a /false flag planter/ in order to keep the conversation going so he can post more propaganda about his cult leader, Lenz. While most of he TMers on FFL have been practicing plain TM for years and minding their own business, the TB is busy trying to infiltrate newsgroup with other informants because he realizes that nobody cares anymore about his failed spiritual trip. Maybe he just feels better when he has someone to talk to - about his old dead teacher. Barry was supposed to be Lenz's successor, but he sucked so bad at teaching spirituality, that the other Rama guys went over to the /Adi Da Samraj /cult. Go figure. Adi Da Samraj /The Adi Da Samraj - Enlightend Master/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/4/2014 6:57 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Lawson, it's really difficult to believe you're as unintelligent as you come across sometimes. *ONLY* a cultist could *possibly* believe that Tony Nader is King of something, anything. The billion bucks was definitely tracked as income and assets of the TMO. However, the same people who did the tracking admit that no one knows where the money is now. It was redirected from other countries to Maharishi's relatives, a black hole into which it has disappeared, probably never to be seen again. If that's your idea of a kingdom, I wish you well with it. When it comes to silly, very little on planet Earth could possibly top the silliness of someone who actually believes that Tony Nader is a King who could pass along his kingdom to his progeny. Zen Master Rama levitating over water /Zen Master Rama levitating over water/ You're simply not sane if you believe that, Lawson. *From:* LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:LEnglish5@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, August 4, 2014 1:27 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife You guys are fond of quoting newspaper articles claiming teh TM organization is worth billions. That's a pretty hefty kingdom, if it really is worth that much, and whoever controls the crown, controls whatever the asserts are wroth. As an aside, anyone ever wonder at how silly people have to be to entertain so many contradictory ways of looking at things? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : Lawson, you're a hoot. You really do believe that there could possibly be succession issues with regard to a kingdom that doesn't exist. How sweet and brainwashed of you. I always wondered for who's benefit the King was for, turns out it's Lawson. Go figure. Arise Sir English! I often wonder how well the TMO would do if it just sold meditation rather than a pre-packaged kingdom with all bases covered from teabags to divination and invincible homes. Maybe they wouldn't alienate absolutely all but the most feverishly needy. Maybe it would be a big success or maybe it would sink without trace in a crowded market place. I don't suppose we'll ever know... For that matter, it's pretty brainwashed and unrealistic of you to believe that the TMO could *last long enough* to need someone to replace Tony Nader... *From:* LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:LEnglish5@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, August 4, 2014 3:49 AMre *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife Um King is generally a hereditary position and in fact, I recall that
Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors
On 8/5/2014 12:46 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Israel has become too much like Nazi Germany, for my liking. One Nazi killed, always meant 50 civilians slaughtered. Same ratio with the Israelis vs. the Palestinians. Sieg Heil, Israel. We should probably save the term Nazi for our real enemies, because it loses it's punch when you realize that the Nazis wanted to erase off the face of the earth all the Jews, just like the Hamas want to do, but the Israelis just want to stop all the rocket attacks, not to kill all Arabs. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/5/2014 9:53 AM, feste37 wrote: I think they should try it. Nothing else is working. It's just the usual, endless round of violence. The TM group wouldn't have to go into the most dangerous areas. Just being close would probably do it. It's already working - almost everything that's good that is happening in the world is because of the ME. It's just obvious. The Hamas are fighting a proxy war, so all we have to do is influence their supporters. According to what I've read, there are only a few members of the Arab League that continue to support the militant faction in Gaza. The militants in Gaza made the wrong choice by voting for violence and now they will have to pay. It's not about territory or freedom or human rights - it's all about staying in power and control. The Israelis should secure all the Gaza borders and put checkpoints so there will be no more rockets or cement smuggled into Gaza. Then, all the Israelis have to do is search out and destroy all the tunnels and the rocket cache and arrest and put in prison all the Hamas leaders, so that economic aid can be supplied to the citizens of Gaza so they can grow and prosper. Without the militants in charge, Gaza could become the Singapore of the Mediterranean. It's not complicated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : Thank you Nabby for posting this bold article. Here is the comment I posted on the site - let's see if they have the balls to allow it to be posted: As a former practitioner of transcendental meditation, I know that you are a shill for the TM Movement. You are also not giving full information in your article. IDT refers to the TM Sidhi program, the one that purports to enable people to levitate. In no way shape or form is this nonsense scientifically validated. But let's give you the benefit of the doubt - you want to prove this voodoo technology works then I challenge you to personally lead a group into the most dangerous and violent sections of Israel and the Gaza strip. Let the TM Movement pay every penny of the expense in supporting such a group rather than begging the rest of the world to financially support you (which is your actual intent in suggesting such a group) and see how long you last. I do suggest you make sure to give the Israeli authorities the names of your next of kin, I expect they will need them. *From:* nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:30 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors _An Outsider's View of How to Calm Middle East-Gaza Tension _ _http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension_
Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors
On 8/5/2014 12:47 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: if there was anything to the Marshy effect India would not be the fucked up misogynistic country it is and the pundits wouldn't riot in Fairfield. It is important to note that India has been a country only sine 1947. If there is anything to the idea that India is a fucked up misogynistic country, we can probably blame it on the Caucasians who came in and raped South Asia beginning around 1500 B.C. Almost all the objectionable cultural effects are based on the notions of racism, divisions based on gender and the caste system which were brought in by the invading white guys. Sort of like the white guy European colonists that raped South Carolina and turned it into a fucked up misogynistic country. Go figure. *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2014 12:54 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You are exaggerating as usual. There is no point in putting people in harm's way, which would be grossly irresponsible. That was never the idea. The Maharishi effect doesn't mean that all violence ceases immediately or that you could meditate as a group in the middle of a battlefield and come out unscathed. Quite right. It means that you might be able to manipulate a few people using dubious statistics so that they think there were fewer deaths than there would otherwise have been. How you go about working out how many people /would/ have died in a warzone over a given period of time is the unanswered question, it isn't like both sides line up a similar amount and shoot them every day is it? But given the amount of TM and yaga's going on one wonders why there are wars so close to the land of the ved anyway. Go figure... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Oh no! Let 'em put up or shut up! Let 'em go to where the rockets are flying and do so at their own expense. If it really works the way they claim, they will be in no danger. *From:* feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2014 10:53 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors I think they should try it. Nothing else is working. It's just the usual, endless round of violence. The TM group wouldn't have to go into the most dangerous areas. Just being close would probably do it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Thank you Nabby for posting this bold article. Here is the comment I posted on the site - let's see if they have the balls to allow it to be posted: As a former practitioner of transcendental meditation, I know that you are a shill for the TM Movement. You are also not giving full information in your article. IDT refers to the TM Sidhi program, the one that purports to enable people to levitate. In no way shape or form is this nonsense scientifically validated. But let's give you the benefit of the doubt - you want to prove this voodoo technology works then I challenge you to personally lead a group into the most dangerous and violent sections of Israel and the Gaza strip. Let the TM Movement pay every penny of the expense in supporting such a group rather than begging the rest of the world to financially support you (which is your actual intent in suggesting such a group) and see how long you last. I do suggest you make sure to give the Israeli authorities the names of your next of kin, I expect they will need them. *From:* nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:30 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors _An Outsider's View of How to Calm Middle East-Gaza Tension _ _http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension_
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
On 08/05/2014 11:55 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 08/05/2014 09:47 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 08/04/2014 11:23 PM, salyavin808 wrote: No it's YOU who doesn't get it. Certainly the sun is the center of our *solar system *not the *galaxy. * But horoscopes use other stars in the galaxy that are assumed (wrongly) to rotate around us too. They call them constellations. They do visually. It's called the ecliptic. Geez, this is basic grade school science class astronomy. As I pointed out if you are an astronomer and want to locate a body in the sky then you are going to do that from your point on *earth*not the *sun. * This doesn't change the fact that astrology assumes the sun goes round the Earth. LOL! I don't know *any* astrologer who believes the Sun goes around the Earth. I don't think anyone wants to move their telescope to the sun. It gets a little hot there. Houses do show the effects of the house in astrology. Why, we don't know but there are theories. Constellations of course were named so that people could locate them in the sky by seeing the shape. The sky is divided into twelve houses to match the twelve lunar periods, or months. They aren't real in any objective way. Happy to help. Obviously they do not and can not have any effect on us, they are totally arbitrary and any claimed effect is anthropomorphism writ large. I convert for evidence. Rings true for many horoscopes as long as the correct birth data is provided. Test it yourself. No, planets do not go backwards. Retrogrades are a visual effect. Not all astrologers use them and particularly they are often not used in jyotish at all. This is another thing that gives it away. Why are there so many different types and all apparent;y doing it in a different way? And most likely with their own adherents that claim theirs is the best way. However some of the rules are the same between schools. True astrologers (might make a good HBO show) won't claim their way is best just the narcissistic ones do. If it were a true description of human affairs you would only need one, and it would be a lot more obvious than it appears to be, even to other astrologers. Astrology disproves itself by failing to take any of this into account. As I said above you're wrong again. It takes an iron age view of the cosmos, it's all moved on so much it's hilarious that anyone might still think that the position of some of the planets at the time of their birth (why then?) might be relevant to the rest of their lives or even their personality. We've much better explanations for how personalities develop. The stars are as distant from us as we are from them. So there aint nuthin wrong with my knowledge of astronomy Except you don't seem to actually know much about it. You would have recognized those famous astronomy names. Why? Sky mapping is a rather small part of astronomy. Maybe your predelictions have biased you towards this presumed importance? I'm much more interested in large scale cosmology anyway, the inadvertently minded anthropomorphism of prehistoric star gazers has little appeal, you can only read about it so many times without losing interest when there are so many major discoveries being made. Technically you want an astrology program to have the most accurate planetary positions available. The Swiss Ephemeris gets the Astrology Housekeeping Seal of Approval. But it is a bit overkill. Basically it is an astrology program as a library and not always needed. It's core engine is based on the JPL Ephemeris and they have done some additional numerical integration to extend it's range. There is a secondary engine which is much like VSOP87 that is also open source and done by Stephen Moshier a math professor. So what are you going to do with large scale cosmology other than impress folks at the local pub? :-D You seem to be from the University of WillyTex. :-D Now that's fighting talk! but the beauty of that statement is that it's out of date as soon as I type it, because knowledge doesn't stand still, unless you still use a horoscope drawn up before they'd even discovered there were planets beyond Saturn. LOL. What kind of astrology charts did you draw up? Tropical? That would explain a lot. Tropical astrologers hang stuff off comets and asteroids that NASA can't even predict where they'll be. See above, if they can all be wrong by a matter of opinion, they are probably
Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors
The Israelis refer to the Palestinians as sand niggers. They have also deliberately targeted schools and mosques, to kill not only the people, but also destroy their culture, a tactic favored by the Nazis as well. These words and actions tell me that they are as committed to genocide, as Hitler was, though not nearly as successful. Israel has a massive public relations campaign to make them look like the good guys, and it looks as if you are drinking the kool-aid. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/5/2014 12:46 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Israel has become too much like Nazi Germany, for my liking. One Nazi killed, always meant 50 civilians slaughtered. Same ratio with the Israelis vs. the Palestinians. Sieg Heil, Israel. We should probably save the term Nazi for our real enemies, because it loses it's punch when you realize that the Nazis wanted to erase off the face of the earth all the Jews, just like the Hamas want to do, but the Israelis just want to stop all the rocket attacks, not to kill all Arabs. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/5/2014 9:53 AM, feste37 wrote: I think they should try it. Nothing else is working. It's just the usual, endless round of violence. The TM group wouldn't have to go into the most dangerous areas. Just being close would probably do it. It's already working - almost everything that's good that is happening in the world is because of the ME. It's just obvious. The Hamas are fighting a proxy war, so all we have to do is influence their supporters. According to what I've read, there are only a few members of the Arab League that continue to support the militant faction in Gaza. The militants in Gaza made the wrong choice by voting for violence and now they will have to pay. It's not about territory or freedom or human rights - it's all about staying in power and control. The Israelis should secure all the Gaza borders and put checkpoints so there will be no more rockets or cement smuggled into Gaza. Then, all the Israelis have to do is search out and destroy all the tunnels and the rocket cache and arrest and put in prison all the Hamas leaders, so that economic aid can be supplied to the citizens of Gaza so they can grow and prosper. Without the militants in charge, Gaza could become the Singapore of the Mediterranean. It's not complicated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : Thank you Nabby for posting this bold article. Here is the comment I posted on the site - let's see if they have the balls to allow it to be posted: As a former practitioner of transcendental meditation, I know that you are a shill for the TM Movement. You are also not giving full information in your article. IDT refers to the TM Sidhi program, the one that purports to enable people to levitate. In no way shape or form is this nonsense scientifically validated. But let's give you the benefit of the doubt - you want to prove this voodoo technology works then I challenge you to personally lead a group into the most dangerous and violent sections of Israel and the Gaza strip. Let the TM Movement pay every penny of the expense in supporting such a group rather than begging the rest of the world to financially support you (which is your actual intent in suggesting such a group) and see how long you last. I do suggest you make sure to give the Israeli authorities the names of your next of kin, I expect they will need them. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors An Outsider's View of How to Calm Middle East-Gaza Tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/4376-an-outsider-s-view-of-how-to-calm-middle-east-gaza-tension
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 08/05/2014 11:55 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 08/05/2014 09:47 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 08/04/2014 11:23 PM, salyavin808 wrote: No it's YOU who doesn't get it. Certainly the sun is the center of our solar system not the galaxy. But horoscopes use other stars in the galaxy that are assumed (wrongly) to rotate around us too. They call them constellations. They do visually. It's called the ecliptic. Geez, this is basic grade school science class astronomy. Don't get too clever, it isn't me claiming that having Mars in front of a particular constellations mean I'm going to be musical or sporty or whatever bollocks school of astrology you belong to claims. I'm just pointing out that the way a chart is drawn is wrong as far as the reality of the galaxy is concerned. To answer your - also inaccurate - point below, the people who invented astrology DID think the Earth was the centre of the universe and everything went round it. They had no idea it was otherwise. As I pointed out if you are an astronomer and want to locate a body in the sky then you are going to do that from your point on earth not the sun. This doesn't change the fact that astrology assumes the sun goes round the Earth. LOL! I don't know any astrologer who believes the Sun goes around the Earth. I don't think anyone wants to move their telescope to the sun. It gets a little hot there. Houses do show the effects of the house in astrology. Why, we don't know but there are theories. Constellations of course were named so that people could locate them in the sky by seeing the shape. The sky is divided into twelve houses to match the twelve lunar periods, or months. They aren't real in any objective way. Happy to help. Obviously they do not and can not have any effect on us, they are totally arbitrary and any claimed effect is anthropomorphism writ large. I convert for evidence. Rings true for many horoscopes as long as the correct birth data is provided. Test it yourself. No, planets do not go backwards. Retrogrades are a visual effect. Not all astrologers use them and particularly they are often not used in jyotish at all. This is another thing that gives it away. Why are there so many different types and all apparent;y doing it in a different way? And most likely with their own adherents that claim theirs is the best way. However some of the rules are the same between schools. True astrologers (might make a good HBO show) won't claim their way is best just the narcissistic ones do. If it were a true description of human affairs you would only need one, and it would be a lot more obvious than it appears to be, even to other astrologers. Astrology disproves itself by failing to take any of this into account. As I said above you're wrong again. It takes an iron age view of the cosmos, it's all moved on so much it's hilarious that anyone might still think that the position of some of the planets at the time of their birth (why then?) might be relevant to the rest of their lives or even their personality. We've much better explanations for how personalities develop. The stars are as distant from us as we are from them. So there aint nuthin wrong with my knowledge of astronomy Except you don't seem to actually know much about it. You would have recognized those famous astronomy names. Why? Sky mapping is a rather small part of astronomy. Maybe your predelictions have biased you towards this presumed importance? I'm much more interested in large scale cosmology anyway, the inadvertently minded anthropomorphism of prehistoric star gazers has little appeal, you can only read about it so many times without losing interest when there are so many major discoveries being made. Technically you want an astrology program to have the most accurate planetary positions available. The Swiss Ephemeris gets the Astrology Housekeeping Seal of Approval. But it is a bit overkill. Basically it is an astrology program as a library and not always needed. It's core engine is based on the JPL Ephemeris and they have done some additional numerical integration to extend it's range. There is a secondary engine which is much like VSOP87 that is also open source and done by Stephen Moshier a math professor. So what are you going to do with large scale cosmology other than impress folks at the local pub? :-D You seem to be from the University of WillyTex. :-D Now that's fighting talk! but the beauty of that statement is that it's out of date as soon as I type it, because knowledge
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 08/05/2014 11:55 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 08/05/2014 09:47 AM, salyavin808 wrote: However some of the rules are the same between schools. True astrologers (might make a good HBO show) won't claim their way is best just the narcissistic ones do. But the fact there are differences means it isn't a good explanation, are you paying attention at all? It wouldn't need to be refined or changed if it worked. You can't have some astrologers claiming retrograde planets make a difference and others don't! Are there two theories of evolution or two theories of special relativity. No, because they are accurate descriptions of what is happening. And as for personalities being set at birth, what has that got to do with anything? It isn't like there aren't any other explanations of how we get to be how we are. If it were a true description of human affairs you would only need one, and it would be a lot more obvious than it appears to be, even to other astrologers. Astrology disproves itself by failing to take any of this into account. As I said above you're wrong again. It takes an iron age view of the cosmos, it's all moved on so much it's hilarious that anyone might still think that the position of some of the planets at the time of their birth (why then?) might be relevant to the rest of their lives or even their personality. We've much better explanations for how personalities develop. The stars are as distant from us as we are from them. So there aint nuthin wrong with my knowledge of astronomy Except you don't seem to actually know much about it. You would have recognized those famous astronomy names. Why? Sky mapping is a rather small part of astronomy. Maybe your predelictions have biased you towards this presumed importance? I'm much more interested in large scale cosmology anyway, the inadvertently minded anthropomorphism of prehistoric star gazers has little appeal, you can only read about it so many times without losing interest when there are so many major discoveries being made. Technically you want an astrology program to have the most accurate planetary positions available. The Swiss Ephemeris gets the Astrology Housekeeping Seal of Approval. But it is a bit overkill. Basically it is an astrology program as a library and not always needed. It's core engine is based on the JPL Ephemeris and they have done some additional numerical integration to extend it's range. There is a secondary engine which is much like VSOP87 that is also open source and done by Stephen Moshier a math professor. So what are you going to do with large scale cosmology other than impress folks at the local pub? I like knowledge for it's own sake. What are you going to do with astrology? What kind of astrology charts did you draw up? Tropical? That would explain a lot. Tropical astrologers hang stuff off comets and asteroids that NASA can't even predict where they'll be. See above, if they can all be wrong by a matter of opinion, they are probably all wrong. Period. You can always tell a bad theory by how many variables you can change and still claim that it's working. In this case the claimed effects are almost certainly caused by something else otherwise it wouldn't be so vague and opinion dependent. Seems you don't know the difference between tropical and sidereal astrology. That hole you're digging must be about to reach China (or more likely the South Pacific). What hole? Both systems are crap, I can tell because there are two systems (at least). Bottom line is that patterns exists. There really isn't any randomness in our world. That is an illusion. There you go living in the past again, quantum physics is pure randomness. But the large scale is generally highly predictable, sure. But we imagine patterns in the sky, you may think you draw parallels but blind testing gives that the lie. I disagree with your perception. But no one has ever proved it. Why is that? Something this profound ought to be added to the store of human knowledge not left on the shelf of new age stores and the back streets of the internet. Patterns replicate themselves throughout nature. Also some research has shown that solar storms can effect the behavior of humans on earth. There is often social upheaval during these times. Myth and rumour. Just like the idea that the moon effects us. Sheer lunacy... Really? There have been serious studies on this. Look it up. Have done, some studies find a link but a majority don't. That's supernatural research all over - everyone gets excited before realising that there is no signal to be heard above the noise. That's the power of science, you can get very
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
On 08/05/2014 01:04 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 08/05/2014 11:55 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 08/05/2014 09:47 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 08/04/2014 11:23 PM, salyavin808 wrote: No it's YOU who doesn't get it. Certainly the sun is the center of our *solar system *not the *galaxy. * But horoscopes use other stars in the galaxy that are assumed (wrongly) to rotate around us too. They call them constellations. They do visually. It's called the ecliptic. Geez, this is basic grade school science class astronomy. Don't get too clever, it isn't me claiming that having Mars in front of a particular constellations mean I'm going to be musical or sporty or whatever bollocks school of astrology you belong to claims. I'm just pointing out that the way a chart is drawn is wrong as far as the reality of the galaxy is concerned. No it isn't. If you ever get a clear sky at night and Mars is available for viewing notice what constellation it is in front of. If it the chart is wrong then it must be tropical which doesn't take into account the precession of the equinox. Again you may be confused between tropical and sidereal astrology. Jyotish is the latter. To answer your - also inaccurate - point below, the people who invented astrology DID think the Earth was the centre of the universe and everything went round it. They had no idea it was otherwise. Yes, it is based of visual observation. Likewise the astronomy which was developed for astrology first was then later used for ship navigation which also depended on visual observations. Worked didn't it?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 08/05/2014 01:04 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 08/05/2014 11:55 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 08/05/2014 09:47 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 08/04/2014 11:23 PM, salyavin808 wrote: If you ever get a clear sky at night and Mars is available for viewing notice what constellation it is in front of. If it the chart is wrong then it must be tropical which doesn't take into account the precession of the equinox. Again you may be confused between tropical and sidereal astrology. Jyotish is the latter. I'm not confused. I don't care. Whatever Mars is in front of it doesn't have any effect on me. It never did. This one type of astrology is better than the other is a red herring. Take whatever type you like and prove it works is all I ask! I think we have better explanations for everything that you claim is due to planetary influence. Prove it and I won't need to bother keeping up with psychology any more, which will be fine by me, all those tedious and exacting experiments when all we really need to do is ask Russell Grant for a chart! To answer your - also inaccurate - point below, the people who invented astrology DID think the Earth was the centre of the universe and everything went round it. They had no idea it was otherwise. Yes, it is based of visual observation. Likewise the astronomy which was developed for astrology first was then later used for ship navigation which also depended on visual observations. Worked didn't it? So astrology is an accurate science because The Beagle found it's way home? That astrologers now use accurate charts is irrelevant to whether it works, when it was invented they thought the world was vastly different to how we know it is. The bonkers maths used to put the Earth in the middle and everything going round it is clever to us and useful to sailors but to early astrologers it was the only way of representing what they thought was reality.
[FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
On 08/05/2014 01:44 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 08/05/2014 01:04 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 08/05/2014 11:55 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 08/05/2014 09:47 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 08/04/2014 11:23 PM, salyavin808 wrote: If you ever get a clear sky at night and Mars is available for viewing notice what constellation it is in front of. If it the chart is wrong then it must be tropical which doesn't take into account the precession of the equinox. Again you may be confused between tropical and sidereal astrology. Jyotish is the latter. I'm not confused. I don't care. Whatever Mars is in front of it doesn't have any effect on me. It never did. This one type of astrology is better than the other is a red herring. Take whatever type you like and prove it works is all I ask! I think we have better explanations for everything that you claim is due to planetary influence. Prove it and I won't need to bother keeping up with psychology any more, which will be fine by me, all those tedious and exacting experiments when all we really need to do is ask Russell Grant for a chart! To answer your - also inaccurate - point below, the people who invented astrology DID think the Earth was the centre of the universe and everything went round it. They had no idea it was otherwise. Yes, it is based of visual observation. Likewise the astronomy which was developed for astrology first was then later used for ship navigation which also depended on visual observations. Worked didn't it? So astrology is an accurate science because The Beagle found it's way home? That astrologers now use accurate charts is irrelevant to whether it works, when it was invented they thought the world was vastly different to how we know it is. The bonkers maths used to put the Earth in the middle and everything going round it is clever to us and useful to sailors but to early astrologers it was the only way of representing what they thought was reality. Your arguments are becoming increasingly absurd and undoubtedly giving folks here who have had college courses in astronomy and the math behind quite a laugh. You might as well quit while you're behind (because you are certainly not ahead). Now we all know you are an armchair scientist. And besides, we get it, you don't like astrology. :-D
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
On 8/5/2014 1:22 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: He does have some balls to admit he is an official informant. So, I wonder how much he gets paid by the lurking reporters? Go figure. What makes you think reporters will pay a guy who admits he only talks to people who have had two beers and a joint ? His guru the Dolly Lama is broke and only leaves his safe haven amongst the Hindus in India upon invitation with all expenses prepaid, so who would pay an old guy obsessed with something that happened to him more than 40 years ago leaning rather heavily on substance abuse ? Maybe he get paid in reefer or hash oil or maybe he pays the lurking reporters by writing their articles for them. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors
On 8/5/2014 2:50 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The Israelis refer to the Palestinians as sand niggers. They have also deliberately targeted schools and mosques, to kill not only the people, but also destroy their culture, a tactic favored by the Nazis as well. It is a fact that the Arabs in Gaza are descendents of Bedouin sand dune people who persecuted the Jews for centuries. Why do you think Jews lived all over the planet instead of in Judah? The Israelis have the coordinates of every building and house in Gaza so do you think they'd risk bad press by targeting children in a school? It is a well-known fact that the Hamas are using human shields You do realize that you're siding with what the U.N. has classified as a terrorist organization affiliated with Hezbollah, right? These words and actions tell me that they are as committed to genocide, as Hitler was, though not nearly as successful. Israel has a massive public relations campaign to make them look like the good guys, and it looks as if you are drinking the kool-aid. Every U.S. President since 1947 has supported the United Nations' creation of the state of Israel. Yes, the terrorists want to destroy Israel and are willing to kill their own people to do so. National Journal: http://www.nationaljournal.com/white-house/why-benjamin-netanyahu-should-be-very-very-worried-20140728 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/5/2014 12:46 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Israel has become too much like Nazi Germany, for my liking. One Nazi killed, always meant 50 civilians slaughtered. Same ratio with the Israelis vs. the Palestinians. Sieg Heil, Israel. We should probably save the term Nazi for our real enemies, because it loses it's punch when you realize that the Nazis wanted to erase off the face of the earth all the Jews, just like the Hamas want to do, but the Israelis just want to stop all the rocket attacks, not to kill all Arabs. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/5/2014 9:53 AM, feste37 wrote: I think they should try it. Nothing else is working. It's just the usual, endless round of violence. The TM group wouldn't have to go into the most dangerous areas. Just being close would probably do it. It's already working - almost everything that's good that is happening in the world is because of the ME. It's just obvious. The Hamas are fighting a proxy war, so all we have to do is influence their supporters. According to what I've read, there are only a few members of the Arab League that continue to support the militant faction in Gaza. The militants in Gaza made the wrong choice by voting for violence and now they will have to pay. It's not about territory or freedom or human rights - it's all about staying in power and control. The Israelis should secure all the Gaza borders and put checkpoints so there will be no more rockets or cement smuggled into Gaza. Then, all the Israelis have to do is search out and destroy all the tunnels and the rocket cache and arrest and put in prison all the Hamas leaders, so that economic aid can be supplied to the citizens of Gaza so they can grow and prosper. Without the militants in charge, Gaza could become the Singapore of the Mediterranean. It's not complicated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : Thank you Nabby for posting this bold article. Here is the comment I posted on the site - let's see if they have the balls to allow it to be posted: As a former practitioner of transcendental meditation, I know that you are a shill for the TM Movement. You are also not giving full information in your article. IDT refers to the TM Sidhi program, the one that purports to enable people to levitate. In no way shape or form is this nonsense scientifically validated. But let's give you the benefit of the doubt - you want to prove this voodoo technology works then I challenge you to personally lead a group into the most dangerous and violent sections of Israel and the Gaza strip. Let the TM Movement pay every penny of the expense in supporting such a group rather than begging the rest of the world to financially support you (which is your actual intent in suggesting such a group) and see how long you last. I do suggest you make sure to give the Israeli authorities the
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Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors
Huh. Arab comes from Abraham, and Arabs and Jews are both considered Semitic peoples. In fact, some Bedouins believe that they are descended from Jews living in the region who converted to Islam: Bedouin Sheikh: My People are of Jewish Descent http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133875#.U-Fz_lakqUk http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133875#.U-Fz_lakqUk Bedouin Sheikh: My People are of Jewish Descent http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133875#.U-Fz_lakqUk Israel Bedouin Sheikh Salem al-Huzeil believes that he and many others like him are of Jewish descent. View on www.israelna... http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133875#.U-Fz_lakqUk Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/5/2014 2:50 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: The Israelis refer to the Palestinians as sand niggers. They have also deliberately targeted schools and mosques, to kill not only the people, but also destroy their culture, a tactic favored by the Nazis as well. It is a fact that the Arabs in Gaza are descendents of Bedouin sand dune people who persecuted the Jews for centuries. Why do you think Jews lived all over the planet instead of in Judah? The Israelis have the coordinates of every building and house in Gaza so do you think they'd risk bad press by targeting children in a school? It is a well-known fact that the Hamas are using human shields You do realize that you're siding with what the U.N. has classified as a terrorist organization affiliated with Hezbollah, right? These words and actions tell me that they are as committed to genocide, as Hitler was, though not nearly as successful. Israel has a massive public relations campaign to make them look like the good guys, and it looks as if you are drinking the kool-aid. Every U.S. President since 1947 has supported the United Nations' creation of the state of Israel. Yes, the terrorists want to destroy Israel and are willing to kill their own people to do so. National Journal: http://www.nationaljournal.com/white-house/why-benjamin-netanyahu-should-be-very-very-worried-20140728 http://www.nationaljournal.com/white-house/why-benjamin-netanyahu-should-be-very-very-worried-20140728 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/5/2014 12:46 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Israel has become too much like Nazi Germany, for my liking. One Nazi killed, always meant 50 civilians slaughtered. Same ratio with the Israelis vs. the Palestinians. Sieg Heil, Israel. We should probably save the term Nazi for our real enemies, because it loses it's punch when you realize that the Nazis wanted to erase off the face of the earth all the Jews, just like the Hamas want to do, but the Israelis just want to stop all the rocket attacks, not to kill all Arabs. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/5/2014 9:53 AM, feste37 wrote: I think they should try it. Nothing else is working. It's just the usual, endless round of violence. The TM group wouldn't have to go into the most dangerous areas. Just being close would probably do it. It's already working - almost everything that's good that is happening in the world is because of the ME. It's just obvious. The Hamas are fighting a proxy war, so all we have to do is influence their supporters. According to what I've read, there are only a few members of the Arab League that continue to support the militant faction in Gaza. The militants in Gaza made the wrong choice by voting for violence and now they will have to pay. It's not about territory or freedom or human rights - it's all about staying in power and control. The Israelis should secure all the Gaza borders and put checkpoints so there will be no more rockets or cement smuggled into Gaza. Then, all the Israelis have to do is search out and destroy all the tunnels and the rocket cache and arrest and put in prison all the Hamas leaders, so that economic aid can be supplied to the citizens of Gaza so they can grow and prosper. Without the militants in charge, Gaza could become the Singapore of the Mediterranean. It's not complicated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : Thank you Nabby for posting this bold article. Here is the comment I posted on the site - let's see if they have the balls to allow it to be posted: As a former practitioner of transcendental meditation, I know that you are a shill for the TM Movement. You are also not giving full information in your article. IDT refers to the TM
Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors
On 8/5/2014 7:19 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: Huh. Arab comes from Abraham, and Arabs and Jews are both considered Semitic peoples. In Biblical etymology, Arab comes both from the desert origin of the Bedouins it originally described (Arava means wilderness) and/or from the concept of mixed people. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs In fact, some Bedouins believe that they are descended from Jews living in the region who converted to Islam: Bedouin Sheikh: My People are of Jewish Descent http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133875#.U-Fz_lakqUk image http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133875#.U-Fz_lakqUk Bedouin Sheikh: My People are of Jewish Descent http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133875#.U-Fz_lakqUk Israel Bedouin Sheikh Salem al-Huzeil believes that he and many others like him are of Jewish descent. View on www.israelna... http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133875#.U-Fz_lakqUk Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/5/2014 2:50 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: The Israelis refer to the Palestinians as sand niggers. They have also deliberately targeted schools and mosques, to kill not only the people, but also destroy their culture, a tactic favored by the Nazis as well. It is a fact that the Arabs in Gaza are descendents of Bedouin sand dune people who persecuted the Jews for centuries. Why do you think Jews lived all over the planet instead of in Judah? The Israelis have the coordinates of every building and house in Gaza so do you think they'd risk bad press by targeting children in a school? It is a well-known fact that the Hamas are using human shields You do realize that you're siding with what the U.N. has classified as a terrorist organization affiliated with Hezbollah, right? These words and actions tell me that they are as committed to genocide, as Hitler was, though not nearly as successful. Israel has a massive public relations campaign to make them look like the good guys, and it looks as if you are drinking the kool-aid. Every U.S. President since 1947 has supported the United Nations' creation of the state of Israel. Yes, the terrorists want to destroy Israel and are willing to kill their own people to do so. National Journal: http://www.nationaljournal.com/white-house/why-benjamin-netanyahu-should-be-very-very-worried-20140728 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/5/2014 12:46 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Israel has become too much like Nazi Germany, for my liking. One Nazi killed, always meant 50 civilians slaughtered. Same ratio with the Israelis vs. the Palestinians. Sieg Heil, Israel. We should probably save the term Nazi for our real enemies, because it loses it's punch when you realize that the Nazis wanted to erase off the face of the earth all the Jews, just like the Hamas want to do, but the Israelis just want to stop all the rocket attacks, not to kill all Arabs. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/5/2014 9:53 AM, feste37 wrote: I think they should try it. Nothing else is working. It's just the usual, endless round of violence. The TM group wouldn't have to go into the most dangerous areas. Just being close would probably do it. It's already working - almost everything that's good that is happening in the world is because of the ME. It's just obvious. The Hamas are fighting a proxy war, so all we have to do is influence their supporters. According to what I've read, there are only a few members of the Arab League that continue to support the militant faction in Gaza. The militants in Gaza made the wrong choice by voting for violence and now they will have to pay. It's not about territory or freedom or human rights - it's all about staying in power and control. The Israelis should secure all the Gaza borders and put checkpoints so there will be no more rockets or cement smuggled into Gaza. Then, all the Israelis have to do is search out and destroy all the tunnels and the rocket cache and arrest and put in prison all the Hamas leaders, so that economic aid can be supplied to the
Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors
Thanks for that. Bad etymological resources on my end, obviously. Even so, the connection between desert people who lived in the area where the people of Israel came from, and, well, the people of Israel shouldn't be that big a surprise. I tell people that many palestinians are probably more Jewish genetically than the Europeans who resettled the area. Some jews get very huffy and some just laugh and say duh. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/5/2014 7:19 PM, LEnglish5@... mailto:LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Huh. Arab comes from Abraham, and Arabs and Jews are both considered Semitic peoples. In Biblical etymology, Arab comes both from the desert origin of the Bedouins it originally described (Arava means wilderness) and/or from the concept of mixed people. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs In fact, some Bedouins believe that they are descended from Jews living in the region who converted to Islam: Bedouin Sheikh: My People are of Jewish Descent Bedouin Sheikh: My People are of Jewish Descent Israel Bedouin Sheikh Salem al-Huzeil believes that he and many others like him are of Jewish descent. View on www.israelna... Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/5/2014 2:50 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: The Israelis refer to the Palestinians as sand niggers. They have also deliberately targeted schools and mosques, to kill not only the people, but also destroy their culture, a tactic favored by the Nazis as well. It is a fact that the Arabs in Gaza are descendents of Bedouin sand dune people who persecuted the Jews for centuries. Why do you think Jews lived all over the planet instead of in Judah? The Israelis have the coordinates of every building and house in Gaza so do you think they'd risk bad press by targeting children in a school? It is a well-known fact that the Hamas are using human shields You do realize that you're siding with what the U.N. has classified as a terrorist organization affiliated with Hezbollah, right? These words and actions tell me that they are as committed to genocide, as Hitler was, though not nearly as successful. Israel has a massive public relations campaign to make them look like the good guys, and it looks as if you are drinking the kool-aid. Every U.S. President since 1947 has supported the United Nations' creation of the state of Israel. Yes, the terrorists want to destroy Israel and are willing to kill their own people to do so. National Journal: http://www.nationaljournal.com/white-house/why-benjamin-netanyahu-should-be-very-very-worried-20140728 http://www.nationaljournal.com/white-house/why-benjamin-netanyahu-should-be-very-very-worried-20140728 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/5/2014 12:46 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Israel has become too much like Nazi Germany, for my liking. One Nazi killed, always meant 50 civilians slaughtered. Same ratio with the Israelis vs. the Palestinians. Sieg Heil, Israel. We should probably save the term Nazi for our real enemies, because it loses it's punch when you realize that the Nazis wanted to erase off the face of the earth all the Jews, just like the Hamas want to do, but the Israelis just want to stop all the rocket attacks, not to kill all Arabs. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/5/2014 9:53 AM, feste37 wrote: I think they should try it. Nothing else is working. It's just the usual, endless round of violence. The TM group wouldn't have to go into the most dangerous areas. Just being close would probably do it. It's already working - almost everything that's good that is happening in the world is because of the ME. It's just obvious. The Hamas are fighting a proxy war, so all we have to do is influence their supporters. According to what I've read, there are only a few members of the Arab League that continue to support the militant faction in Gaza. The militants in Gaza made the wrong choice by voting for violence and now they will have to pay. It's not about territory or freedom or human rights - it's all about staying in power and control. The Israelis should secure all the Gaza borders and put checkpoints so there will be no more rockets or cement smuggled into Gaza. Then, all the Israelis have to do is search out and destroy all the tunnels and the rocket cache and arrest and put in prison all the Hamas leaders, so that economic aid can be supplied to the citizens of Gaza so
Re: [FairfieldLife] For The Turq and his Superiors
On 8/5/2014 8:49 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: Thanks for that. Bad etymological resources on my end, obviously. These days when I read something on the internet I just immediately go to Wikipedia and get started researching. Even so, the connection between desert people who lived in the area where the people of Israel came from, and, well, the people of Israel shouldn't be that big a surprise. Apparently the term Arab refers mainly to a language and not so much with religion. From what I've read some of the first Arabs are associated with the Queen of Sheba over in I tell people that many palestinians are probably more Jewish genetically than the Europeans who resettled the area. Some jews get very huffy and some just laugh and say duh. There is a reason they call the land over there the land of Judea since 586 BCE, long before the arrival of Arabs from Sinai and African Ethiopia. If there wasn't a state of Israel all the Jews in Judea would be termed Palestinians. Go figure. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/5/2014 7:19 PM, LEnglish5@... mailto:LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Huh. Arab comes from Abraham, and Arabs and Jews are both considered Semitic peoples. In Biblical etymology, Arab comes both from the desert origin of the Bedouins it originally described (Arava means wilderness) and/or from the concept of mixed people. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs In fact, some Bedouins believe that they are descended from Jews living in the region who converted to Islam: Bedouin Sheikh: My People are of Jewish Descent http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133875#.U-Fz_lakqUk image http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133875#.U-Fz_lakqUk Bedouin Sheikh: My People are of Jewish Descent http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133875#.U-Fz_lakqUk Israel Bedouin Sheikh Salem al-Huzeil believes that he and many others like him are of Jewish descent. View on www.israelna... http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133875#.U-Fz_lakqUk Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/5/2014 2:50 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: The Israelis refer to the Palestinians as sand niggers. They have also deliberately targeted schools and mosques, to kill not only the people, but also destroy their culture, a tactic favored by the Nazis as well. It is a fact that the Arabs in Gaza are descendents of Bedouin sand dune people who persecuted the Jews for centuries. Why do you think Jews lived all over the planet instead of in Judah? The Israelis have the coordinates of every building and house in Gaza so do you think they'd risk bad press by targeting children in a school? It is a well-known fact that the Hamas are using human shields You do realize that you're siding with what the U.N. has classified as a terrorist organization affiliated with Hezbollah, right? These words and actions tell me that they are as committed to genocide, as Hitler was, though not nearly as successful. Israel has a massive public relations campaign to make them look like the good guys, and it looks as if you are drinking the kool-aid. Every U.S. President since 1947 has supported the United Nations' creation of the state of Israel. Yes, the terrorists want to destroy Israel and are willing to kill their own people to do so. National Journal: http://www.nationaljournal.com/white-house/why-benjamin-netanyahu-should-be-very-very-worried-20140728 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/5/2014 12:46 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Israel has become too much like Nazi Germany, for my liking. One Nazi killed, always meant 50 civilians slaughtered. Same ratio with the Israelis vs. the Palestinians. Sieg Heil, Israel. We should probably save the term Nazi for our real enemies, because it loses it's punch when you realize that the Nazis wanted to erase off the face of the earth all the Jews, just like the Hamas want to do, but the Israelis just want to stop all the rocket attacks, not to kill all Arabs. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] ISIS, the Unifying Force for Iraq
For the United States, an Islamic Caliphate is a severe threat to the dollar and to national security, as ISIS could abolish the Petro-dollar agreement America has with OPEC and the Saudi government, and in addition, could potentially cause a new oil crisis as ISIS already controls several oil fields within the state of Iraq. http://www.examiner.com/article/a-hundred-years-after-start-of-wwi-the-ottoman-empire-returns On 8/4/2014 1:03 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: With the successful attacks by the militants in Kurdish lands, the various political forces in Iraq could and should now rally together to get a unified country for the sake of its own existence. If this happens, it would be a victory for Iraq. On 8/4/2014 2:23 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: What if you woke up in the morning and found out that ISIS had taken over Baghdad and the Iraqi oilfields? What if the Iraqi oil supply was interrupted and there was a shortage of oil exports? What if the crises was worse than the 1973-74 OPEC oil embargo? What if there was a world-wide oil shock? What would you do? 1. Purchase a bicycle. 2. Take the bus to work. 3. Sell your vehicle and by an electric car. 4. Do nothing - wait in line for hours at a gas station. 5. Send troops into Iraq to route out and kill the ISIS forces. 6. Vote to increase U.S. domestic oil output and to build more fuel refineries. /...a world oil shock at least equal to the so-called ‘Arab oil embargo’ of 1973-74 in terms of oil export supply cuts from several key regions and producer states – Russia, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen and possibly the GCC Arab Gulf exporters. / 'Oil prices - When ISIS takes Baghdad' http://www.oilvoice.com/n/Oil_prices_When_ISIS_takes_Baghdad/40d31cf76c7b.aspx#gsc.tab=0 It would also be a victory for Obama's foreign policies. Let's find out in the next few weeks. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/04/islamic-state-iraq_n_5647532.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592
Re: [FairfieldLife] ISIS, the Unifying Force for Iraq
Richard, The article's point has merit. It is obviously advantageous for the USA to eliminate ISIS in the Middle East. But Obama is committed not to use American troops to settle the political situation in Iraq. As such, he is and will be reliant on the success of the Iraqi government to keep their own house in order and to defeat the threats posed by ISIS. If the current Iraqi government fails, Obama has no choice but to send back the Army troops to protect the American interests, namely the homeland safety, and the stabilization of oil prices and supply. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : For the United States, an Islamic Caliphate is a severe threat to the dollar and to national security, as ISIS could abolish the Petro-dollar agreement America has with OPEC and the Saudi government, and in addition, could potentially cause a new oil crisis as ISIS already controls several oil fields within the state of Iraq. http://www.examiner.com/article/a-hundred-years-after-start-of-wwi-the-ottoman-empire-returns http://www.examiner.com/article/a-hundred-years-after-start-of-wwi-the-ottoman-empire-returns On 8/4/2014 1:03 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: With the successful attacks by the militants in Kurdish lands, the various political forces in Iraq could and should now rally together to get a unified country for the sake of its own existence. If this happens, it would be a victory for Iraq. On 8/4/2014 2:23 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: What if you woke up in the morning and found out that ISIS had taken over Baghdad and the Iraqi oilfields? What if the Iraqi oil supply was interrupted and there was a shortage of oil exports? What if the crises was worse than the 1973-74 OPEC oil embargo? What if there was a world-wide oil shock? What would you do? Purchase a bicycle. Take the bus to work. Sell your vehicle and by an electric car. Do nothing - wait in line for hours at a gas station. Send troops into Iraq to route out and kill the ISIS forces. Vote to increase U.S. domestic oil output and to build more fuel refineries. ...a world oil shock at least equal to the so-called ‘Arab oil embargo’ of 1973-74 in terms of oil export supply cuts from several key regions and producer states – Russia, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen and possibly the GCC Arab Gulf exporters. 'Oil prices - When ISIS takes Baghdad' http://www.oilvoice.com/n/Oil_prices_When_ISIS_takes_Baghdad/40d31cf76c7b.aspx#gsc.tab=0 http://www.oilvoice.com/n/Oil_prices_When_ISIS_takes_Baghdad/40d31cf76c7b.aspx#gsc.tab=0 It would also be a victory for Obama's foreign policies. Let's find out in the next few weeks. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/04/islamic-state-iraq_n_5647532.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/04/islamic-state-iraq_n_5647532.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592
[FairfieldLife] National Geographic photo contest winners
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 08/05/2014 01:44 PM, salyavin808 wrote: So astrology is an accurate science because The Beagle found it's way home? That astrologers now use accurate charts is irrelevant to whether it works, when it was invented they thought the world was vastly different to how we know it is. The bonkers maths used to put the Earth in the middle and everything going round it is clever to us and useful to sailors but to early astrologers it was the only way of representing what they thought was reality. Your arguments are becoming increasingly absurd and undoubtedly giving folks here who have had college courses in astronomy and the math behind quite a laugh. You might as well quit while you're behind (because you are certainly not ahead). Now we all know you are an armchair scientist. Am I wrong then? Did iron age man think he was in a heliocentric universe? When did that change anyway - Copernicus had the idea in 1550 but it wasn't until after Isaac Newton, nearly three hundred years later, that it became generally accepted. It simply isn't like your astrological forefathers thought it was - so how would it still work given the massive differences in size of objects and distances that a true orrery reveals? Try and imagine what people who did astronomy at college think of the claim that the planets affect the outcome of your personality or future - if you want a genuine laugh... And besides, we get it, you don't like astrology. :-D I've yet to see anything to like about it.
