[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That was really interesting, thanks! > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 14, 2006, at 3:20 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > > > Good points. This one intere

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
(But if I had my druthers, I'd like to have *both* Kabir and Schroedinger...) Good stuff, Curtis. Intellectualizing Can Be Fun! The fact that you can embrace both makes it fun to discuss this stuff. I will give the rest of what you wrote more thought tomorrow. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogr

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Quoting Schroedinger:] > Let us see whether we cannot draw the correct, noncontradictory > > conclusion from the following two premises: > > > > (i) My body functions as a pure mechanism according to the Laws > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread coshlnx
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > However, there could be a good deal of semantic > > ambiguity here, in light of how MMY defines Unity > > consciousness. > > > > In other words: Do

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fearmonger Gore full of hot air

2006-06-14 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The author of the column below is a lobbyist for the Canadian utility industry and is paid to spread misinformation about global warming. If you're really interested in this topic, read a little of the 1000s of pages

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Let us see whether we cannot draw the correct, noncontradictory > conclusion from the following two premises: > > (i) My body functions as a pure mechanism according to the Laws > of Nature [determinism]. > > (ii) Yet I know, by incontrovertible direct experience, that I > am directing its motions,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Frankenbees?

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks Sal. I think I understand now. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh, that happened *before* Curtis came here? How time flies. Sorry, > Curtis, I thought for sure you were here. Well, anyway, see my last > post. And I also thought the sa

[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jun 14, 2006, at 7:42 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Jun 14, 2006, at 4:02 PM, nablus108 wrote: > >> > Does it make sense to go against the wishes of th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush Administration Quietly Plans NAFTA Super Highway?

2006-06-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ironically, these sorts of super corridors will be the very death of the > country. > > Perfect way for sending in a Trojan Horse. > > We can't security-check all the containers coming in by sea, even though they don'

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
> > Why do you think or feel Maharishi is not Shiva incarnate?> > > ---Moreover Shiva ia an ascetic, or naked awareness deva, and has no considerations of relative things. One can nap in shit, or live in a castle, it is all the same to Shiva.>Fair enough, so why is your earlier description

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
That was really interesting, thanks! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jun 14, 2006, at 3:20 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > Good points. This one interested me the most: > > > > "rather by recognizing that mysticism is completely > > beyond sci

Re: [FairfieldLife] Bush Administration Quietly Plans NAFTA Super Highway?

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
Ironically, these sorts of super corridors will be the very death of the country.   Perfect way for sending in a Trojan Horse.       - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Bush Administrati

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Frankenbees?

2006-06-14 Thread Sal Sunshine
Oh, that happened *before* Curtis came here? How time flies. Sorry, Curtis, I thought for sure you were here. Well, anyway, see my last post. And I also thought the same thing Judy did...for the simple reason that the name Brigante doesn't really sound like anything else, and it's unlikely you'

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Frankenbees?

2006-06-14 Thread Sal Sunshine
Oh, well I was just commenting that if you remember Bob working some place that he says he didn't (and the likelihood of someone else in the TMO having that same name would be about zilch, I would think) that maybe he's telling another whopper, similar to the one about Rick deleting one of his post

[FairfieldLife] Re: Frankenbees?

2006-06-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sal, > > I don't get it. What am I missing? Long story, an episode that took place before you made your appearance here; but she's suggesting that Bob is lying. (Strangely enough, I got the sense you were hi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Frankenbees?

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Sal, I don't get it. What am I missing? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Curtis, I think I would put this in the "I didn't delete my post--Rick > Archer did" file. > > Sal > > > On Jun 14, 2006, at 4:20 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > Than

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fearmonger Gore full of hot air

2006-06-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Guest Column > Scientists respond to Gore's warnings of climate catastrophe > "The Inconvenient Truth" is indeed inconvenient to alarmists > By Tom Harris > Monday, June 12, 2006 > www.CanadianFreePress.com > > "Sc

[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jun 14, 2006, at 5:49 PM, Kirk wrote: > > > a sign of guilt? or dualism of his mind? One would think that > > since he puts his photo on all his manifest actions he would place > > it in the Holy Tradition whi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Why do you think or feel Maharishi is not Shiva incarnate? > > > ---Moreover Shiva ia an ascetic, or naked awareness deva, and has no considerations of relative things. One can nap in shit, or live in a castle, it i

[FairfieldLife] Fearmonger Gore full of hot air

2006-06-14 Thread shempmcgurk
Guest Column Scientists respond to Gore's warnings of climate catastrophe "The Inconvenient Truth" is indeed inconvenient to alarmists By Tom Harris Monday, June 12, 2006 www.CanadianFreePress.com "Scientists have an independent obligation to respect and present the truth as they see it," Al Gor

[FairfieldLife] Bush Administration Quietly Plans NAFTA Super Highway?

2006-06-14 Thread Vaj
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread Vaj
On Jun 14, 2006, at 7:42 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jun 14, 2006, at 4:02 PM, nablus108 wrote: Does it make sense to go against the wishes of the person who gave you the lineage you're supposedly teaching in--and then turn around a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Frankenbees?

2006-06-14 Thread Sal Sunshine
Curtis, I think I would put this in the "I didn't delete my post--Rick Archer did" file. Sal On Jun 14, 2006, at 4:20 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Thanks. It is so funny that there was a Bob Brigante at the FLA Sidhaland! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jun 14, 2006, at 3:20 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > Good points. This one interested me the most: > > > > "rather by recognizing that mysticism is completely > > beyond science." > > > > It is beyond the scientific

[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jun 14, 2006, at 4:02 PM, nablus108 wrote: > > >> Does it make sense to go against the wishes of the person who gave > >> you the lineage you're supposedly teaching in--and then turn > > around > >> and invoke that line

[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 6/14/06 1:33 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Does it make sense to go against the wishes of the person who gave you the > > lineage you're supposedly teaching in--and then turn around and invoke that > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread Vaj
On Jun 14, 2006, at 5:49 PM, Kirk wrote:a sign of guilt? or dualism of his mind? One would think that since he puts his photo on all his manifest actions he would place it in the Holy Tradition which is the source of his power. State of contemplation of Brahman is bliss and contentment. The s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
Why do you think or feel Maharishi is not Shiva incarnate?---Moreover Shiva ia an ascetic, or naked awareness deva, and has no considerations of relative things. One can nap in shit, or live in a castle, it is all the same to Shiva. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PR

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
Hi, I personally believe that people don't believe he is who he is due to brainwashing. Just as TB's want desperately to believe who he is, due to brainwashing. Same mirror image process. Thinking he is 'someone' is a false notion. Nobody is 'someone' as opposed to anybody else. 'Someon

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
Why do you think or feel Maharishi is not Shiva incarnate?---Shiva has never given blessings to take them away. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'

[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think anyone in the Movement has the balls to question MMY. But if they did he probably would say straight up that he is not liberated. He is still in duality. > I do admire him. He might be much much more evol

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > So if you think this of Maharishi, what say you about Shiva? > > > > I love Shiva. Alway have always will. If there is a power of the divine to manifest then it is of Shiva. Of course if there is a power of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Curtis you might enjoy the following brief talk with Ken Wilber where > he answers the question "does quantum physics prove god?" where he > rather elegantly explains that the quantum state is not unmanifest > spirit/brah

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
a sign of guilt? or dualism of his mind? One would think that since he puts his photo on all his manifest actions he would place it in the Holy Tradition which is the source of his power.   State of contemplation of Brahman is bliss and contentment. The sort which keeps a person in the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
So if you think this of Maharishi, what say you about Shiva? >   I love Shiva. Alway have always will. If there is a power of the divine to manifest then it is of Shiva.  Of course if there is a power of the divine to manifest it is of Mahakali. Will always have always. I love Mahakali.  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
Interesting point because M. is not in the tradition that is invoked during initiation. Funny, I was also recently thinking about the Lakshmi tantra. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Joi

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks a lot. I'll check it out when I get home tonight. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jun 14, 2006, at 3:20 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > Good points. This one interested me the most: > > > > "rather by recognizing that mysticism is complet

[FairfieldLife] Re: Frankenbees?

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks. It is so funny that there was a Bob Brigante at the FLA Sidhaland! I just read a great book about bees Robbing the Bees : A Biography of Honey--The Sweet Liquid Gold that Seduced the World, that included following a beekeeper around for a while. Such a hard but rewarding life! He wo

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Judy:"I don't have a copy of the Wilber book to hand, but the point he makes is that quantum physics made the limits of science more clear than they ever had been before. Essentially quantum mechanics demonstrates that science cannot tell us anything *directly* about reality; it's all shadows on th

[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 6/14/06 1:33 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Does it make sense to go against the wishes of the person who gave you the > > lineage you're supposedly teaching in--and then turn around and invoke that >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Frankenbees?

2006-06-14 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bob, > > Did we work at the Florida Capital together? I used to work with the > bees there and helped sell the pollen. I have wanted to have hives > again ever since. Varietal honey rocks! > > ***

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread TurquoiseB
Unc: > > The kung-fu of denial is FAR more powerful than the > > kung-fu of science. :-) Curtis: > Nice one! Agreed. In my experience, it's more than a snappy one-liner. There is real truth in it. The power of denial is fuckin' AWESOME, man. :-) The ability of self to perpetuate its own illusions

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread Vaj
On Jun 14, 2006, at 3:20 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:Good points. This one interested me the most: "rather by recognizing that mysticism is completely beyond science." It is beyond the scientific method in its focus and range, but I  think Sam Harris would claim that when it talks about how the 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread Vaj
On Jun 14, 2006, at 4:02 PM, nablus108 wrote:Does it make sense to go against the wishes of the person who gave   you the lineage you're supposedly teaching in--and then turn  around   and invoke that lineage as part of the initiation process? Or is  it   yours to use after you got it? It would

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And do you > > know everything there is to know about MMY? > > Maharishi is an enigma to me. After sitting at His feet for 40 years, > of these many years litterrally, I still have only vague ideas about > who He

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > He can't openly have sex for fear it will destroy his popular image, he does not have the open recognition of his peers, his megalomaniacal disposition speaks volumns about his state of mind, and then he rants showing d

[FairfieldLife] Petit Paris in quirky Fairfield

2006-06-14 Thread bob_brigante
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
The enigma part is okay to my mind, but the blazing light of Brahman part seems as if it's a conditioned response. It may be true, or it may not be. If he is a blazing light of brahman then one would never be able to tell, because Brahman has no observable characteristics. In point of fact

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread Vaj
On Jun 14, 2006, at 4:39 PM, Kirk wrote: - Original Message -From: nablus108To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 2:45 PMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLifeOnly learning from a rectified will continue the lineage. Teaching outside of M

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Good points. This one interested me the most: > > "rather by recognizing that mysticism is completely > beyond science." > > It is beyond the scientific method in its focus and range, but I > think Sam Harris

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars on 6/14/06 3:16 PM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And do you > know everything there is to know about MMY? Maharishi is an enigma to me. After sitting at His feet for 40 years, of these many years litterrally, I still have only vague ideas about

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
  - Original Message - From: nablus108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 2:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife Only learning from a rectified will continue the lineage. Teaching outside of Maharishis blessing will o

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jun 14, 2006, at 1:43 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > wrote: > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > >> wrote: > >> she was so threatened by the > >> > >>

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > It does interest me that Yogananda's book is a > > > fantastic exa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread nablus108
And do you > know everything there is to know about MMY? Maharishi is an enigma to me. After sitting at His feet for 40 years, of these many years litterrally, I still have only vague ideas about who He really is. What I do know, is that He is a "Blazing light of Brahman" -

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars     - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars on 6/14/06 1:52 PM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This fellow knows absolutely noth

[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jun 14, 2006, at 2:23 PM, nablus108 wrote: > > > > > > > Wow, Rick, thats interesting. I would love to teach TM at > > > a reasonable > > > price once in a while. I know someone who d

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
He can't openly have sex for fear it will destroy his popular image, he does not have the open recognition of his peers, his megalomaniacal disposition speaks volumns about his state of mind, and then he rants showing discontent, and then recants showing his great compassion, all thus show

[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jun 14, 2006, at 2:23 PM, nablus108 wrote: > > > > > > > Wow, Rick, thats interesting. I would love to teach TM at > > > a reasonable > > > price once in a while. I know someone who d

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
The kung-fu of denial is FAR more powerful than the kung-fu of science. :-) Nice one! Agreed. Technically, it's a navel chakra thang. It's like someone > punching you in the stomach, not a one-time punch but a > continual pressure on that area of the body. It can be > disconcerting until you get

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Good points. This one interested me the most: "rather by recognizing that mysticism is completely beyond science." It is beyond the scientific method in its focus and range, but I think Sam Harris would claim that when it talks about how the world "is" mysticism enters the field where logic doe

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread Vaj
On Jun 14, 2006, at 3:04 PM, Rick Archer wrote:on 6/14/06 1:33 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Does it make sense to go against the wishes of the person who gave you the lineage you're supposedly teaching in--and then turn around and invoke that lineage as part of the initiation process? Or is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife on 6/14/06 1:33 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it make sense to go against the wishes of the person who gave you the lineage you're supposedly teaching in--and then turn around and invoke that lineage as part of the i

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars on 6/14/06 1:52 PM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This fellow knows absolutely nothing about himself, why presume he knows anything about a saint ? How are you in a position to know what he knows about himself? And do you know everything there is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Ann Coulter/Murders w/Words(her words)'

2006-06-14 Thread Bhairitu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >In a message dated 6/13/06 8:39:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >So Michael Moore is vata? He looks kapha to me. Coulter certainly >isn't kapha. Sorry it doesn't work. Try again. > >If you're not progressive then you must be regressive

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Ann Coulter/Murders w/Words(her words)'

2006-06-14 Thread Bhairitu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >In a message dated 6/12/06 5:05:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > >>In a message dated 6/12/06 3:22:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROT

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Sorry, I've lost the original intent of this discussion. Suffice it to > say that in my experience, external proof of anything has not been as > important a factor as the verification of my own abilities. Someone > once told me that to rely on external phenomena will drive you crazy. > Whi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" > wrote: > > > > > > > > Next comes the full integration, the living of the knowledge. In the > > case of Self realization, if it is being lived as an integrated

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread Vaj
On Jun 14, 2006, at 2:23 PM, nablus108 wrote: Wow, Rick, thats interesting. I would love to teach TM at  a reasonable price once in a while. I know someone who does this. There are several who are quite successful at it. I've been tempted but I always think back the fact that I signed a legal 

[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread nablus108
> > >>> > > > > >>> > > Wow, Rick, thats interesting. I would love to teach TM at a reasonable > > >>> > > price once in a while. I know someone who does this. > > >>> > > > > >> > There are several who are quite successful at it. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > I've been tempted > > >>> > > but I alw

[FairfieldLife] Dr. Robert Schneider Publishes New Book

2006-06-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Dr. Robert Schneider Publishes New Book June 14, 2006 Home Donations Development Office Maharishi University of Management Fairfield, IA 52557 641-472-1180 Email Us Good News! Archive Dr. Schneider Publishes Book on Heart Health Faculty member Robert Schneider achieved an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread Vaj
On Jun 14, 2006, at 1:43 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB   wrote: she was so threatened by the fact that she was seeing these things and that they *weren't* being done by *her* te

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > It does interest me that Yogananda's book is a > > fantastic example of how spiritual people use the appearance of > > science when it suits them

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jim: > > > If he is enlightened, then what nature wants and what he does are > > the same thing; indistinguishable. > > Me: As a spokesperson for the lower states of consciousness I also > want to point out

Re: [FairfieldLife] I hate the new format

2006-06-14 Thread gullible fool
Shemp wrote "The thing I hate the most is navigating to old and new postings in a thread", which means he is reading the messages at the group page, not in his email, and there is no way to change the format of the messages at the group page. The email settings change email only. --- Kirk <[EMA

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > wrote: > she was so threatened by the > > fact that she was seeing these things and that > > they *weren't* being done by *her* teacher > > (Maharishi) that she ju

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Damn Judy, I am only working on one cup of coffee here! Let me see if > I can make an intelligible response! > > > Coming back to this, because I think it's an > > important point: If Unity consciousness is as

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "If your mind is doing the doubt thing, it's going to do the > > doubt thing no matter who the supposed "expert" is." > > I don't think I am as skeptical as you are about the use of proper > tests in science.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Judy: > In other words: Does he have the ability to want to > > do siddhis on demand, independently of what nature > > "wants"? > > Jim: > If he is enlightened, then what nature wants and what he does are > the same thing; indistinguishable. Me: As a spokesperson for the lower states of consc

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Next comes the full integration, the living of the knowledge. In the > case of Self realization, if it is being lived as an integrated > component of one's life, it has huge practical benefits. Sounds like > the p

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Concept on top of concept humping another concept giving rise to litters of baby concepts. None of this is helpful in the slightest way. > Ok then, nothing more to say- I am not much into concepts for their own sake...

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It does interest me that Yogananda's book is a > fantastic example of how spiritual people use the appearance of > science when it suits them. The New Testament does the same thing. > It appears to follow scienti

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Damn Judy, I am only working on one cup of coffee here! Let me see if I can make an intelligible response! > Coming back to this, because I think it's an > important point: If Unity consciousness is as > MMY defines it, and if he's in Unity consciousness, > it isn't *up* to MMY, independently of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
Next comes the full integration, the living of the knowledge. In the case of Self realization, if it is being lived as an integrated component of one's life, it has huge practical benefits. Sounds like the person who you refer to is not living 200% of life.  Maharishi lives 1,000,000%

Re: [FairfieldLife] I hate the new format

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] I hate the new format It's under the email settings at the Yahoo base camp.   - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] I hate the new format on 6/14/06 1

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
Concept on top of concept humping another concept giving rise to litters of baby concepts. None of this is helpful in the slightest way.     - Original Message - From: jim_flanegin To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 10:16 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife]

[FairfieldLife] Re: I hate the new format

2006-06-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 6/14/06 10:27 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I hate the new Yahoo! format. > > > > Anyway we can get the old one back? > > > > The thing I hate the most is navigating to old and new postings

Re: [FairfieldLife] I hate the new format

2006-06-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] I hate the new format on 6/14/06 10:27 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate the new Yahoo! format. Anyway we can get the old one back? The thing I hate the most is navigating to old and new postings in a thread. Edit your settings. You can switch

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jun 14, 2006, at 10:40 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > I don't share any of those mentioned goals. Eternal peacefulness is > > death for me. Deep contentment comes and goes which motivates my > > actions toward my g

[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 6/14/06 2:09 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > , Rick Archer wrote: > >> > > >> > on 6/13/06 9:23 AM, Michael Murp

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > TorquiseB writes snipped: > Life is *full* of contradictions. So, as far as > I can tell, is enlightenment. Before enlightenment, > Chop Suey and contradictions; after enlightenment, > Chop Sue

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Me: Sometimes I think that it is the lower states of consciousness that we > are forgetting about. What I mean by this is that it is possible that > the rishis were dealing with a population so ignorant that our modern > awareness is the enlightened state. I think any of our awarenesses > could be

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: she was so threatened by the > fact that she was seeing these things and that > they *weren't* being done by *her* teacher > (Maharishi) that she just blotted them out > and refused to ever deal with the experience. > I h

[FairfieldLife] I hate the new format

2006-06-14 Thread shempmcgurk
I hate the new Yahoo! format. Anyway we can get the old one back? The thing I hate the most is navigating to old and new postings in a thread. The one good thing: improved search capabilities. There is now an advanced search for Yahoo! groups that allows one to seaarch almost as well as with

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
"If your mind is doing the doubt thing, it's going to do the doubt thing no matter who the supposed "expert" is." I don't think I am as skeptical as you are about the use of proper tests in science. The whole history of science as advanced on our ability to have confidence in procedures and make

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > Oh, OK- Got it. So my question back is, what practical difference in > > your life would it make if you witnessed someone, even yourself, > > ext

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The fully enlightened people alive right now are all dead. > > > > ---Not so. > So? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This reification of a concept of some 'nature' is a fallacy. Nature=the sum total of relative existence; infinite time and infinite space, and infinite manifestation. > > After enlightenment, there is not much ownersh

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for taking the time to discuss this fascinating topic! > Sure thing! Anyway, regardless of what your goals are, would they be satisfied if you witnessed a rigorously proven demonstration of the sidhi

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Too funny! I wanted to thank you again for that software to capture videos on youtube. I am loving life. Check out Dr. Issiah Ross the original one-man-band. Now it is on my hardrive thanks you to! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jun 14, 2006, at

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