[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls
Curtis wrote: Since none of us actually experience causation... You may want to re-think this statement, Curtis. Apparently you got confused and went over to the transcendentalist point of view without realizing it. If you were a philosophy major at MUM, this is understandable. But, in fact, everyone experiences Causation. Everyone knows that human excrement always flows downstream. In philosophy, Causation is a relationship that describes and analyses cause and effect. In physics, we get from this the first law of thermodynamics: energy can be neither created nor destroyed, which gives rise to the second law of thermodynamics involving entropy. According to most Western philosophers, Causality denotes a logical relationship between one physical event, the cause, and another physical event, the effect - the cause-effect relationship. In the transcendentalist view, (Mandukya Upanishad, Brahma Sutras, Yoga Vashishta) there is mention of causality, but causality is explained as part of the creation of the universe, a concept which is opposed to the deterministic view of modern science. In a deterministic world-view, there is nothing but Causation, which has been described as a chain of events following one after another according to the law of Causation. All causes of things are beginnings; that we have scientific knowledge when we know the cause; that to know a thing's existence is to know the reason why it is. - Aristotle Because of this, that happens. - Gotoma Looking at the sky, he fell into a ditch. - Punditster
[FairfieldLife] Re: Two videos
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Coltrane's Giant Steps, with the musical notation appearing on screen as he plays. Even if you can't read music, this is pretty neat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kotK9FNEYU Loads(?) of maj7's
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascist America, in 10 easy steps
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chopra's father stabilised Maharishi when he was sick in 1992, in india and sent him to London. Do you think Maharishi is grateful to Chopra for that.?? Why erase all traces of his association with the TM mov 't.?? Maharishi was nowhere near India in 1992. If you want to be taken serious when you are spreading your poison, then better as a minimum stick to simple facts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascist America, in 10 easy steps
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: and yet, because I'm posting here, I'm willing to bet that I cannot get a dome badge now. Edg I used to post here fairly often, I was fairly critical about some things, and, in fact, I wrote letters to both Hagelin and Bevan telling them that I personally knew of instances where they had slept with married movement ladies and did not appreciate their lording it over others while being deceitful themselves, even got responses back from each of their assistants, and applied to go to Fairfield a few months ago when the big push was on, and was accepted to the course. Kenny H. Exactly. Some people are so full of hate and selfloathing that they necessarily need to project it on to something/someone, otherwise they would crack up. For former Governors, most of whom never took the programme seriously anyway, the Movement is a natural place to dump their frustrations.
[FairfieldLife] Re:DIFFERENT STATES OF CONS/DIFFERENT DIMENSIONS
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---there's no evidence for much of this crap. More succintly, one should not confuse what happens to the body (say, ultimate biological purification; where the body supposedly dissolves into Light - the Rainbow Light Body); with Self-Realization. Of course, there is a foundation of tacit assumptions here: in order to discuss this issue intelligently, certain agreements are necessary without offering proof. Namely, we can assume that (1) Sakyamuni Buddha was Enlightened. (2) Next, Ramana Maharshi was Enlightened. Obviously, RM must have been, since Eckhart Tolle became Enlightened through the inspiration of RM. The poster below seems to hold Tolle in high esteem. However, Ramana Maharshi - as the ultimate Source of Neo-Advaitin- ism - was essentially a Nihilist who believed that the physical body was just excess baggage to be gotten rid of. The poster below then conflates the concept of bodily Translation with Self-Realization. Bodily Translation (attaining a Rainbow Light Body), is a particular Siddhi; not directly connected to Enlightenment, although Enlightenment precedes the acquisition of a Rainbow Light body in relative time, from the data we have. By way of example, Ramana Maharshi was Enlightened (as well as Ramakrishna), but these individuals placed no special importance on biological purification, and simply died of cancer. Padma Sambhava OTOH, was Enlightened but according to the traditional account, attained a Rainbow Light Body. I see no evidence that Eckhart Tolle surpasses Ramana Maharshi in any category. Thus, the previous post is highly speculative and fanciful. As to MMY, I would place his name along with that of SBS as being in the category of those tacitly assumed to be Enlightened, without further investigation. The fact that MMY seems to have rather oddball viewpoints in topics such as economics, and many of his project are not followed through to fruition is beside the point of Enlightenment. To conclude, some of the properties of evolution the poster alludes to are peripheral to Enlightenment, nevertheless quite important in the context of further biological evolution. Nicely put. When this Lsoma fellow describes Maharishi as growing towards CC one can not but agree to your description of his post as highly speculative and fanciful written by someone who probably never met the man and/or was sleeping while viewing tapes of the same. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Lsoma@ wrote: QUESTIONS FROM THE COLLECTIVE/Lou Valentino According to MMY the seven states of consciousness can be experienced while in a physical body. Is this true? NO. One can have intervals of experiencing TC, CC or GC. Full experience of CC would mean you have at least entered the sixth dimension after physical death or are in the higher levels of the sixth. When we transcend we are experiencing the upper sixth dimensional vibration. Once you have mastered the first six dimensions and enter the 7th then you have established a permanent state of GC. The seventh dimension is where the masters of the lower six planes reside in GC. Guru Dev is in the beginning levels of the sixth as well as SSRS. Ammachi is stepping into the sixth. This is where heart starts to take over- In the upper fifth to beginning of the sixth. Mother Meera is from the seventh as well as Ekhart Tolle (Very rare). Only three seventh dimensional masters are in physical embodiment presently GC. Waking, dreaming and sleeping belong to the third and fourth dimensions. (Non-Meditators mostly) TC along with the other three combine experiences of the fifth and sixth dimensions. Bodies are etheric in the fifth and sixth. GC is the seventh dimension. Golden light is everywhere and you are able to read the Akashic Records UC is the 12th where the subject and object are no longer involved. A compete merging with the absolute. Meditators are growing towards CC and as MMY has said in SCI you can have experiences of the other states of awareness at different times. UC is without a physical or etheric body however. Is MMY enlightened? NO. Is Deepak Chopra? NO. Bevin Morris? NO, NO. John Hagelin? NO. MMY is from the third level of the fifth dimension. He is still growing towards CC. This is the reason why he only see's the structure of his organization being so important. More important than taking care of the soul's that are involved in creating his organization. The reason why many leave out of human frustration due is lack of attention to personal feelings and a rush to save the world without
[FairfieldLife] Pimp My Bible! (Tuunaa [tune up?] mun Raamattu!)
http://www.pimpmybible.com/ Tuunaa [tune up?] mun Raamattu! Sorry, no English version... Bible in this strange Uralic language is Raamattu (adaptation from Greek Grammata).
[FairfieldLife] 'Definition of Soul Retrievals/Helpful for some'
[Healing] Soul Retrievals Appointment Information History of Shamanism Soul Loss, Soul Retrieval and Extraction Soul retrieval is based on the concept that throughout the course of daily life pieces of our soul can be lost. This soul loss is usually a natural coping response to a trauma. When we are traumatized and it is too painful for us to be present and aware, a part of us may leave to wait in non-ordinary reality. This state of soul loss is often referred to medically as shock, or psychologically as dissociation. When we have a soul loss we may feel something is missing. We may have an emptiness that we try to fill through addictions, compulsive behavior, taking energy from others, or we may simply feel depressed. We may look and act competent on the outside, but feel inadequate or disquieted on the inside. Soul loss can occur in a number of ways: through serious illness or accidents, through depression or strong emotional events, and even through theft. Often soul-thieves do not know that they are stealing soul parts, and they may be people close to us: parents, grandparents, siblings, and lovers. Sometimes we experience soul loss because we have given a quality or essence to someone else or allowed them to take it. We often give away a quality of essence (patience, assertiveness, zest for life) to seomeone else because we want to help them or they may want this quality for themselves. No one can make use of our essence but us, so when it is with another person they are weighed down and we feel unnaturally connected to them - we may think about the other person more often and more intensely than is warranted. Soul loss is identifiable through apathy, an absence of joy, an inability to feel love or receive it, suicidal thoughts, addictions, chronic despair and depression. Angeles Arrien states that symptoms of soul loss include losing a desire dance, sing, enjoy silence, and enjoy storytelling. We may have done much personal growth work at the emotional and psychological level, which can be enhanced by this spiritual healing work. Soul Retrieval Ceremony The actual event of soul retrieval work occurs in a safe environment. The client invites allies to assist him or herself in the ceremony. These allies should be close and trusted friends, who are there to observe, support and accept the clients' healing process. They will be asked to focus on the intent of the work, maintain a safe psychic space and think positive thoughts. The ceremony begins with prayers, energy cleansing through the use of sage smoke (smudging) and an interview by the practioner - looking to determine the client's intent in the healing. The client and the shamanic practioner lie on blankets on the floor; and the practioner enters the Shamanic State of Conciousness (SSC) through the use of a loud monotonous drumbeat. While in the SSC, the shamanic practioner relies on the assistance of his or her Spirit guides and Power Animal allies. These are the avatars for the practioner in the shamanic realms, and it is these allies who perform the work which takes place. Often, the practioner will make the sounds of the ally they are working with. For example, a practioner who relies on Raven for healing work will caw and screech. Additionally, the practioner may make sudden movements, appear to be pulling or cutting, or make loud noises through clapping, shouting or singing. Often during the process, the client may feel a wide range of emotions, from laughter or fear, to passion and hate. All of these feelings are related to the work and they should be acknowledged, thanked and released. It is completely acceptable to laugh, cry, yell, or do nothing at all during the ceremony and work. The client may also feel the urge to assist the practioner with her work - this is strongly discouraged. The client is best served by the remaining present in his or her physical body, and observing the emotions or thoughts that the work brings to the surface. Upon completion of the journey, the practioner returns the missing soul parts by blowing them into the heart chakra, and into the the crown of the head. The practioner will then rattle around the client's body to seal in the returned soul parts, and welcome the returned parts home. After some quiet time to think and write, the practioner will share the ages of the soul parts returned, the nature of the loss event, and any allies who pesented themselves for the client. The practioner will then invite the client and the client's allies to share any experiences or emotions. The ceremony ends with the closing of the sacred circle and the thanking of the allies present. It is proper for the client to bring giveaways (small gifts) for the practioner, the drummer, and for the client's allies who attended. Aftercare Modern shamanic healing arts are largely similar to the ancient techniques, with the important inclusion of
[FairfieldLife] When one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls
In order to have cause and effect, there must be the dimension of time present. Therefore, these laws do apply in the relative world of time and sequence. But, in the Transcendent, there is no time, it doesn't exist. So, when one has an intension, in a place of no-time... Different laws of nature apply. This is where miracles occur. Sure, if Rome's Pilot commanded Jesus to quick; Perform a miracle for some ego satisfaction.. It would have been quite difficult to do that; Because of that consciousness being so literal,material, time- oriented... Miracles only occur, outside of time. It is an experience which cannot be explained in linear terms. That's why they call it a miracle; You must be open to something greater than your ego. That's all. Jesus said, that we all could perform miracles greater than he. Why is that so hard to believe? Why is it so hard to believe, that you could transcend time, and change anything? r.g. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis wrote: Since none of us actually experience causation... You may want to re-think this statement, Curtis. Apparently you got confused and went over to the transcendentalist point of view without realizing it. If you were a philosophy major at MUM, this is understandable. But, in fact, everyone experiences Causation. Everyone knows that human excrement always flows downstream. In philosophy, Causation is a relationship that describes and analyses cause and effect. In physics, we get from this the first law of thermodynamics: energy can be neither created nor destroyed, which gives rise to the second law of thermodynamics involving entropy. According to most Western philosophers, Causality denotes a logical relationship between one physical event, the cause, and another physical event, the effect - the cause-effect relationship. In the transcendentalist view, (Mandukya Upanishad, Brahma Sutras, Yoga Vashishta) there is mention of causality, but causality is explained as part of the creation of the universe, a concept which is opposed to the deterministic view of modern science. In a deterministic world-view, there is nothing but Causation, which has been described as a chain of events following one after another according to the law of Causation. All causes of things are beginnings; that we have scientific knowledge when we know the cause; that to know a thing's existence is to know the reason why it is. - Aristotle Because of this, that happens. - Gotoma Looking at the sky, he fell into a ditch. - Punditster
[FairfieldLife] 'Yagya Musical [Mentors]needed in New Orleans'
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[FairfieldLife] McCain Beats Clinton/Reinstates the Draft?!'
Not a pretty picture for the future; But gives one pause, at the thought of this. - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls
On Apr 25, 2007, at 10:07 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, if your mouth is full of salt, you cannot taste the sugar. Jim, I know you think your words and comments are profound and worthy of eight posts in a 24 hr. period, but I assure you, they are rather boring, and most likely the group will benefit more greatly if you saw fit to STFU until tomorrow. Thanks, Lurk. (groan) I was wondering how much more of these saccharine pronouncements we were going to have to endure today. Apparently Jim has set himself up as the Village Wise Man, whose accumulated wisdom we better listen to--or else. Sal
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fascist America, in 10 easy steps
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:07 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fascist America, in 10 easy steps --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I once went to give the movement a donation, and I ended up having to give it to this guy whose name escapes me (he drowned in rapids in Central America.) Bobby Warren. His last words supposedly were, I'm the worlds greatest diver Actually it was, Hey, did you know that I'm the world's greatest expert at swimming under waterfalls? He swam under the waterfall and the force of the water pushed him out and he drowned. Tim Jones had to carry his body out in a muddy 6 hour hike, along with some helpers, and then deal with all sorts of red tape to get his body out of Costa Rica and back to the US for burial. Bobby Warren was irritating in life and apparently irritating for some people in death! God bless Bobby, but he was a pathological liar. Strange/interesting dude to say the least. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dutch TV Report on 2007 Bilderberg Conference
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Dutch and English with subtitles: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5370178078513730189 Are you one of the 3 billion? That must be a hoax! I refuse to believe that a nice and amicable chap like Henry K. could come up with such an ueber-Nazi idea! :/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascist America, in 10 easy steps
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:07 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fascist America, in 10 easy steps --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: I once went to give the movement a donation, and I ended up having to give it to this guy whose name escapes me (he drowned in rapids in Central America.) Bobby Warren. His last words supposedly were, I'm the worlds greatest diver Actually it was, Hey, did you know that I'm the world's greatest expert at swimming under waterfalls? He swam under the waterfall and the force of the water pushed him out and he drowned. Tim Jones had to carry his body out in a muddy 6 hour hike, along with some helpers, and then deal with all sorts of red tape to get his body out of Costa Rica and back to the US for burial. Bobby Warren was irritating in life and apparently irritating for some people in death! God bless Bobby, but he was a pathological liar. Strange/interesting dude to say the least. I have no reason to believe Judy is actually irritated by him. :)
[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 25, 2007, at 10:07 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: On the other hand, if your mouth is full of salt, you cannot taste the sugar. Jim, I know you think your words and comments are profound and worthy of eight posts in a 24 hr. period, but I assure you, they are rather boring, and most likely the group will benefit more greatly if you saw fit to STFU until tomorrow. Thanks, Lurk. (groan) I was wondering how much more of these saccharine pronouncements we were going to have to endure today. Apparently Jim has set himself up as the Village Wise Man, whose accumulated wisdom we better listen to--or else. Sal Thanks for giving me that power over you Sal, but I respectfully decline, now and forever. Your life is your own as you may know. Please do with it as you will.
[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, if your mouth is full of salt, you cannot taste the sugar. I've never spoken to you this way Jim. There is no salt in my mouth. Which way? I am just observing what I see. If you find what I said insulting, I am at a loss for words. I am certainly challenging you, as you often challenge here. Why is that an issue?
[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: On the other hand, if your mouth is full of salt, you cannot taste the sugar. Jim, I know you think your words and comments are profound and worthy of eight posts in a 24 hr. period, but I assure you, they are rather boring, and most likely the group will benefit more greatly if you saw fit to STFU until tomorrow. lurk I apologize for the eight posts. That was a mistake and won't happen again. I forgot I had posted this morning. As for my words being profound, that is hilarious, though they obviously engendered some sort of reation in you, so why is it about me? My above comment re salt and sugar was like me saying It is a beautiful sunrise this morning or a square has four equal sides. Oooh how profound! lol!
[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls
Ditto. Excellent discussion between two fine writers and thinkers. Big thanks for that. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great responses man, thanks. Lots to think about. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: You discount my experience -- thats fine. Particularly if you have repeated personal experience in which no value was gained, and no experience was occuring. Since none of us actually experience causation, we build our beliefs around our conclusions from our experiences. Even MMY makes this critical epistemological distinction that simultaneity is not the same as causation. Causation can be demonstrated statistically -- but thats probably beyond common personal practice. Still, while one similtenatity may be coincidence, a dozen such, in different contexts, is common sense causality. How many times do you need to slip in ice to avoid icy spots on the walkway in winter? Is that dumb superstition, or worldly-wise common sense? If a yagya results in the same experience a dozen times, its not that much of a stretch to posit causality. Demonstrating in a scientific paper takes more. But we live our lives all the time positing causality without statistical proof. I am not inclined to discount people's reports of subjective experiences since I have had plenty of them myself. It is what we conclude about their value that may distinguish our views. My sense of value of yagyas is probablistic. I don't really know their effect. Given the direct experience, I find it plausible, not certain, that they could have a wider, deeper, core-level effect. As I said, I don't discount the subjective experience, I reject the physical effect claims. I don't make any firm claims. I simply extraoplate that they may have peaceful effect beyond the room. I don't need an explanation to enjoy it. If you wanted to charge me $1000 to hear magical music that would cure cancer, I might have a bigger stake in asking questions. OK, but a bit of a strawman relative to my view of yagyas. I am not suggesting a $1000 yagya can cure cancer. Or anything like that. I know a lot of reasons why Delta blues moves me. It has to do with my values and what I am looking for from music. I understand why I like it so much. Some of the reasons are very logical given my personal values and taste. Art and logic are not in a battle in my life. They play nicely together. I know a lot of reasons why yagyas moves me. It has to do with my values and what I am looking for from yagyas. I understand why I like it so much. Some of the reasons are very logical given my personal values and taste. Art and logic are not in a battle in my life. They play nicely together. :) But these are areas where falsifiability is not needed. The only person who cares about my taste is me. But a claim concerning the outer physical effects of yagyas is an area that requires (for me) more support in how it works for me to take the theory seriously. So far I am not convinced in its theoretical support or its empirical proof. I consider it a low probability area so I don't give it much attention. I think focusing on their outer effects is misguided and misses their real value to people which I will discuss below. But these are areas where falsifiability is not needed. The only person who cares about my taste is me. And since the global outer physical effects of yagyas is at a low ranking of my values, I am less concerned about absolute proof. The direct experience is as real as the effect of delta blues on you. The art and pagentry are evident. A global or social effect is plausible, a nice bonus. Since I don't focus primarily or soley on there being possible larger and global effects, your issues with yagyas don't appear to apply to me. I have a plausible, and for me satisfying theory of how pujas, meditations and chanting effects my mind. I do not have a theory that supports a trans personal effect on the world or the physical claims of yagyas done for specific physical effects. I have a loose conceptual framework in which such are plausible. For such speculation on plausible possibilities, no rigourous proof is needed. I do not discount the experiences of others as misguided moodmaking concerning people's subjective effects from these traditional practices. I do not believe that they are influencing the world in the manor claimed. I am not claiming such. Plausible speculation and musings perhaps. I have participated in yagyas with MMY and
[FairfieldLife] Re: When one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls
Robert Gimbel wrote: In order to have cause and effect, there must be the dimension of time present. Therefore, these laws do apply in the relative world of time and sequence. Can you cite an example of cause and effect which does not exist in time and space? If so, it would be transcendental, that is, beyond space and time. That would be termed Brahman, which is not an object of knowledge. Brahman is a metaphysical or philosophical concept. But, in the Transcendent, there is no time, it doesn't exist. According to Shankara in his commentary on Brahma Sutras, time is an illusion, but it is real as long as we are experiencing it. It is unreal in the absolute sense, so time, according to Shankara, is not real, yet it is also not unreal - it is maya, that is, indescribable. This is the classic Indian transcendental view. Material determinism does not recognize a transcendental view. Causation is the general law of physics which we ALL experience to one degree or another. In contrast, very few have even postulated the existence of a transcendtal state, mostly the Upanishadic thinkers. So, when one has an intension, in a place of no-time... Different laws of nature apply. This is where miracles occur. Sure, if Rome's Pilot commanded Jesus to quick; Perform a miracle for some ego satisfaction.. It would have been quite difficult to do that; Because of that consciousness being so literal, material, time-oriented... Miracles only occur, outside of time. It is an experience which cannot be explained in linear terms. That's why they call it a miracle; You must be open to something greater than your ego. That's all. Jesus said, that we all could perform miracles greater than he. Maybe so, but performing miracles can also get you killed. Look what happened to Simon Magus - he rose up off the ground and Simon Peter didn't like that, so Peter caused him to crash to the ground. Lord Krishna lifted up Govardhan Hill and as a consequence, he killed millions of living beings - a sin. If you are always looking up at the sky you might fall into a ditch, hit your head on a rock and die from drowning. Why is it so hard to believe, that you could transcend time, and change anything? If we could cause change at will, we would be magicians. But in fact, there is no such thing as change, only transformations of energy. Things don't change into other things. And there is no force that enters into the world dividing history into a 'before and after'. There are no chance events - everything happens for a reason. Why is that so hard to believe? Because it's not based on common sense. We get all our knowledge from our senses, mainly from our eyes and ears. These are the two primary means of gaining knowledge. Otherwise we must depend on inference and verbal testimony. The most reliable senses that we have are general knowledge based on observation: human excrement always flows downstream. It is just common sense to assume that human waste products will always follow the law of gravity and not fly up into our face for no reason. If we do not use our common sense, we might imagine that monkeys are flying up out of our butts instead of crap, and that instead of a corn cob for wiping we should use a baseball bat or a catchers mitt, and instead of crapping in a stream we should be going to the loo out on a softball field or with baboons inside a zoo cell. Which would be non-sensical, would it not? There's nothing wrong with crapping out in a field, and swatting at crap balls as they fly down to the ground, but most people would probably look askance at your actions. Not to mention that it would require great skill, especially without the crap balls flying up towards your face. Have you tried this? I have, and as a skilled janitor I can tell you that it makes quite a mess to clean up. One guy apparently tried this when he was constipated and almost caused a riot. I reported him to the hall monitor who told him to get the hell out and take a bath in the creek and clean himself and put on some shoes before he went back to class. It would probably be better to use an enclosed brick out house for crapping and meditate inside there, day-dreaming about monkeys and baseball, and swatting flies that you imagine to be balls of crap or monkeys in the shape of crap balls. That way, you could probably avoid being put inside the nut house out house or tied into a bed with a straight jacket and given a bed pan and Prozac. It just makes more common sense to assume that a stream would carry away your waste products rather than try to convince everyone in the third world that the spirits of the dead caused you to expel shit and then swat it into your friend's lap. They might get the wrong idea and think that your were out of your mind and not being practical. Curtis wrote: Since none of us actually experience causation... You may want to
[FairfieldLife] Re: Killing time: tat savituH
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sinhlnx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --You're not making sense. You're saying that nobody in the entire world is pronouncing it correctly? Baloney. Just buy the audio tape from Shree Maa and go along with her. Or the audio tape from Karunamayi (www.karunamayi.org): http://tinyurl.com/2auw6s
[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues snip I have a plausible, and for me satisfying theory of how pujas, meditations and chanting effects my mind. I do not have a theory that supports a trans personal effect on the world or the physical claims of yagyas done for specific physical effects. snip It was a cultural ceremony that had lots of psychological values and social values snip We may all have different views of what is beyond the empirically obvious. Some may hold there is nothing. I think there are forces of nature, not necessarily anthropormorphic entities. Its plausible to me that yagyas, as well as catholic masses and mardi gras celebrations enliven such. It strikes me that yagyas and religious and cultural celebrations, as well as healing-type rituals (such as the shamanic soul retrieval Robert Gimbel just posted a piece about, the laying on of hands, etc.), may all fall under the general heading of attitude adjustments. (The experience of gratitude new morning goes on to suggest as an effect of a yagya would be an example.) And I suspect that attitude adjustments of this type can have more far-reaching, profound effects than may be immediately evident. One's attitude affects just about everything one does, the choices one makes, big and small, consciously and subconsciously. It seems to me entirely plausible that such an attitude adjustment could have a long, broad chain of effects, many of them small and indirect, that could ultimately converge on a gross physical effect--physical healing, the lucky avoidance of negative occurrences, greater prosperity, etc., etc.--for which the cause-and-effect chain is as if hidden. I don't think it matters much whether one attributes a positive outcome to some divine entity or to laws of nature, rather than to a purely natural, if obscure, process. Actually, I should think it might *help* to believe it's out of one's own hands, so that one just lets the process happen without trying to consciously engineer it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fascist America, in 10 easy steps
Peter wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:07 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fascist America, in 10 easy steps --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I once went to give the movement a donation, and I ended up having to give it to this guy whose name escapes me (he drowned in rapids in Central America.) Bobby Warren. His last words supposedly were, I'm the worlds greatest diver Actually it was, Hey, did you know that I'm the world's greatest expert at swimming under waterfalls? He swam under the waterfall and the force of the water pushed him out and he drowned. Tim Jones had to carry his body out in a muddy 6 hour hike, along with some helpers, and then deal with all sorts of red tape to get his body out of Costa Rica and back to the US for burial. Bobby Warren was irritating in life and apparently irritating for some people in death! God bless Bobby, but he was a pathological liar. Strange/interesting dude to say the least. He introduced me to the Vivekananda Center in Seattle because it was a good place to get incense. Bobby was a pretty decent guy until the TMO corrupted him
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dutch TV Report on 2007 Bilderberg Conference
cardemaister wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Dutch and English with subtitles: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5370178078513730189 Are you one of the 3 billion? That must be a hoax! I refuse to believe that a nice and amicable chap like Henry K. could come up with such an ueber-Nazi idea! :/ Nah, just another bunch of rich folks who like MMY want to rule the world with some kind of global government. I think they've been a little more successful than MMY.
[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls
That was excellent Judy. John Ginder one of the co-founders of Neuro Linguistic Programing, took this view I think. He was one of my hypnosis instructors. He used to make up rituals on the spot to demonstrate how he could disrupt patterns of thinking. In his writings he was pretty clear that he believed that the content of the ritual was not the most important aspect. He felt that once the mechanism of the ritual was understood for its psychological effect, then you could substitute all the superficial variables to fit the person's cultural context. He felt that some magical beliefs were caused by not knowing what was the most important thing in a ritual, so they get passed down with a lot of baggage and unnecessary beliefs. He had been spending time with a healer in South America and was attempting to distill out what aspects of his technique might be used by other. He called this process modeling. First you imitate everything the person does, and then you strip out each component to find what was the key part that mattered. The difference that made the difference. In a seminar he began describing this process in a way that made me think that he was starting to believe in an external magical effect from some healing rituals, and asked him a series of questions to find out where he was drawing the line in his beliefs. It became clear to me that he was still struggling with deciding where to draw the line himself. (or was using it as a teaching point for me, he was a sneaky bastard) He had a principle of useful beliefs. These are beliefs which were lacking in solid reasoning or support, but which give a value to a person's life. He went little too far into intellectual relativism for my taste, but it was a valuable concept for me to apply concerning other people's beliefs. I can't know what function a belief serves for another person. He had hot young thing with him who took off each day and returned with high-line shopping bags at the end of the sessions. I turned to my friend on the course and commented, Looks like a hard day spending John's money. My friend turned to me and said Looks like a hard day spending OUR money! John Grinder was one of the most brilliant guys I have met. He ended up drawing different lines than I do. I can't help thinking it was because he had a monstrous ego and just couldn't give up being intrinsically special in a magical sort of way. So I take his NLP insights with more than a grain of salt. But he was a truly original thinker and his modeling of the hypnotic techniques of Milton Erickson allowed others to learn how to shift people's attention states with language. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues snip I have a plausible, and for me satisfying theory of how pujas, meditations and chanting effects my mind. I do not have a theory that supports a trans personal effect on the world or the physical claims of yagyas done for specific physical effects. snip It was a cultural ceremony that had lots of psychological values and social values snip We may all have different views of what is beyond the empirically obvious. Some may hold there is nothing. I think there are forces of nature, not necessarily anthropormorphic entities. Its plausible to me that yagyas, as well as catholic masses and mardi gras celebrations enliven such. It strikes me that yagyas and religious and cultural celebrations, as well as healing-type rituals (such as the shamanic soul retrieval Robert Gimbel just posted a piece about, the laying on of hands, etc.), may all fall under the general heading of attitude adjustments. (The experience of gratitude new morning goes on to suggest as an effect of a yagya would be an example.) And I suspect that attitude adjustments of this type can have more far-reaching, profound effects than may be immediately evident. One's attitude affects just about everything one does, the choices one makes, big and small, consciously and subconsciously. It seems to me entirely plausible that such an attitude adjustment could have a long, broad chain of effects, many of them small and indirect, that could ultimately converge on a gross physical effect--physical healing, the lucky avoidance of negative occurrences, greater prosperity, etc., etc.--for which the cause-and-effect chain is as if hidden. I don't think it matters much whether one attributes a positive outcome to some divine entity or to laws of nature, rather than to a purely natural, if obscure, process. Actually, I should think it might *help* to believe it's out of one's own hands, so that one just lets the process happen without trying to consciously engineer it.
[FairfieldLife] Ever wonder where the prudery in the TMO came from?
India, that's where. Sometimes the sheer backasswards idiocy of India just blows my mind. India court orders Richard Gere's arrest JAIPUR, India (Reuters) -- An Indian court ordered the arrest of Hollywood star Richard Gere on Thursday for kissing Bollywood actress Shilpa Shetty at an AIDS awareness event this month saying it was an obscene act committed in public. Gere's repeated kisses on Shetty's cheeks at an event to promote AIDS awareness in New Delhi sparked protests in some parts of India, mostly by Hindu vigilante groups, who saw it as an outrage against her modesty and an affront to Indian culture. The order by a court in the northern city of Jaipur came in response to a complaint by a local lawyer. The judge watched a video recording of Gere kissing Shetty and found him guilty of violating Indian laws against public obscenity, the lawyer, Poonam Chand Bhandari, said. The court also summoned Shilpa Shetty to appear on May 5, Bhandari said, adding that Gere was also ordered to be arrested. Gere can be sent to jail for up to three months or fined or both for the crime if he is arrested. He is not in India now but can be held if he visits the country again. The Hollywood star is a devout Buddhist and a vocal supporter of the Tibetan cause and visits India frequently to meet the Dalai Lama, who lives in exile in northern India. He is also involved with charities looking after HIV-infected people and orphans, as well as AIDS prevention groups in the country. Groups of men had burned and kicked straw effigies of Gere and Shetty in sporadic protests across the country after newspapers published the picture of the kiss on their front pages and TV channels aired visuals of the event. Shetty, the winner of the Celebrity Big Brother reality TV show in Britain this year had said the kiss may have gone a little overboard but it was not obscene and the protests made India look regressive. She said Gere was only re-enacting his moves from the film Shall We Dance to entertain the audience at the AIDS event and communicate in a Bollywood style as he did not speak Hindi. Many commentators had subsequently expressed their unhappiness at what they said were fringe groups making a mountain of a harmless peck on the cheek.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ever wonder where the prudery in the TMO came from?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: India, that's where. Sometimes the sheer backasswards idiocy of India just blows my mind.\ Although I agree with your point, I saw the tape and Gere was being a total dick. With his exposure to Indian culture, he has no excuse for bringing this on himself and to the chick he was mashing on. India court orders Richard Gere's arrest JAIPUR, India (Reuters) -- An Indian court ordered the arrest of Hollywood star Richard Gere on Thursday for kissing Bollywood actress Shilpa Shetty at an AIDS awareness event this month saying it was an obscene act committed in public. Gere's repeated kisses on Shetty's cheeks at an event to promote AIDS awareness in New Delhi sparked protests in some parts of India, mostly by Hindu vigilante groups, who saw it as an outrage against her modesty and an affront to Indian culture. The order by a court in the northern city of Jaipur came in response to a complaint by a local lawyer. The judge watched a video recording of Gere kissing Shetty and found him guilty of violating Indian laws against public obscenity, the lawyer, Poonam Chand Bhandari, said. The court also summoned Shilpa Shetty to appear on May 5, Bhandari said, adding that Gere was also ordered to be arrested. Gere can be sent to jail for up to three months or fined or both for the crime if he is arrested. He is not in India now but can be held if he visits the country again. The Hollywood star is a devout Buddhist and a vocal supporter of the Tibetan cause and visits India frequently to meet the Dalai Lama, who lives in exile in northern India. He is also involved with charities looking after HIV-infected people and orphans, as well as AIDS prevention groups in the country. Groups of men had burned and kicked straw effigies of Gere and Shetty in sporadic protests across the country after newspapers published the picture of the kiss on their front pages and TV channels aired visuals of the event. Shetty, the winner of the Celebrity Big Brother reality TV show in Britain this year had said the kiss may have gone a little overboard but it was not obscene and the protests made India look regressive. She said Gere was only re-enacting his moves from the film Shall We Dance to entertain the audience at the AIDS event and communicate in a Bollywood style as he did not speak Hindi. Many commentators had subsequently expressed their unhappiness at what they said were fringe groups making a mountain of a harmless peck on the cheek.
[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Ginder one of the co-founders of Neuro Linguistic Programing, took this view I think. He was one of my hypnosis instructors. He used to make up rituals on the spot to demonstrate how he could disrupt patterns of thinking. In his writings he was pretty clear that he believed that the content of the ritual was not the most important aspect. He felt that once the mechanism of the ritual was understood for its psychological effect, then you could substitute all the superficial variables to fit the person's cultural context. He felt that some magical beliefs were caused by not knowing what was the most important thing in a ritual, so they get passed down with a lot of baggage and unnecessary beliefs. You know how many shamanic belief systems, such as Native Americans and South Pacific islanders, have a figure in their mythology named The Trickster? That's always been my belief about where the power of ritual comes from. Not from the actions performed or from the language used, or from *any* of those nitty-gritty details. Rituals work because they allow the practitioner of the ritual to trick them- selves into a state of attention in which their desires are more easily manifested. Working with this theory in mind, I once developed a ritual for job or contract interviews that never fails. I get up early, run a few miles, shower, med, and then put on a certain interview suit that I bought in Paris and that I have associated in my mind with success. Then I walk into the interview not giving a damn whether I get the job or the contract, focusing *only* on having as much FUN with the interview process as humanly possible. And it's never failed. Not once. I really think that my ritual isn't really very different from the yagyas that people talk about here or from Tibetan rituals I have participated in. The thing that made them work for the *first* person who came up with the ritual was that the words and actions allowed him to trick himself into the necessary state of attention to manifest what he wanted to manifest. Then, later, he said the same words and performed the same actions, and it worked again. After a while, other people began to associate a sense of expectation around the saying of the words and the performance of the actions, but that's not (IMO) what makes anything happen. What makes stuff happen is the trick, the shift in state of attention. Over time, if people come to believe that saying the same words and performing the same actions have some kind of magical qualities, that allows them to trick themselves as well, and the ritual is passed along to another generation. Just a theory...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ever wonder where the prudery in the TMO came from?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: India, that's where. Sometimes the sheer backasswards idiocy of India just blows my mind.\ Although I agree with your point, I saw the tape and Gere was being a total dick. With his exposure to Indian culture, he has no excuse for bringing this on himself and to the chick he was mashing on. Haven't seen any video. But what is he supposed to do, pander to a hypocritical culture that doesn't allow kissing in public but that has one of the fastest-growing AIDS rates on the planet because of uncontrolled prostitution?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascist America, in 10 easy steps
Kenny, Thank you for giving me an alternate viewpoint -- I need all the emotionally balancing stories I can get if I'm to give my intellect enough space to create some clarity. Your truth has at least somewhat slowed Ego The Ninny's ricocheting from stress knot to stress knot inside my cranium. My personal movement karma is my own, and however it may swab my vision with an opaque pastiche of recriminations, I cannot gainsay anyone else's less tinted experiences. The very fact that the movement has lasted this long is a proof that it DOES do things rightly most of the time and doesn't trigger negativity in the minds of the true believers. So, all those well handled folks are going to naturally think my experiences are odd, rare, and my own doings for the most part. Hey, maybe I really pissed Bobby Warren off just before I told him about the donation, right? Maybe he lost a loved one just before I arrived. I didn't know jack about Bob. Kenny, I'm thinking you're telling the straight truth, and, yep, I'm not easily fitting it into my dataset of all things TMOish. In fact, I think it might be one of the most hopeful signs I've ever had about Hagelin and Morris. I should send them an apology, cuz I sure would've put money down that you'd have lost your badge. If J B are lurking here, sorry! On the other hand, there's other stories like my own, much worse tales than mine actually, and the movement just never clears them up for us. You'd think that the movement would show all the records of the Kaplan money exchanges, get it all on the table, and show the world that it is completely above any suspicions. And, since it happened, Kaplan's karma was deserved, but hey, the movement had the karma too, eh? But we get what from the movement on this issue? Here's what we get: in the film Young Frankenstein we see Igor (Marty Feldman) with his hunchback being offered corrective surgery for his condition. Igor says, What hump? http://youtube.com/watch?v=jvrqoCCia_g What problems? We don ga no steeenkink problems! http://youtube.com/watch?v=HaxURLFn6jU The movement's course office makes these decisions all the time that are never explained to us. As an American raised personality, habeas corpus, until, you know, Bushco, was my common expectation whenever I've found myself restricted; I've expected to be treated as an adult and to have the grievances against me fully explained and that I would be given a chance to rectify, clarify, challenge, etc. The fact that the movement cannot be bothered in most instances to explain itself is certainly the way of the corporate world today, but I gave my heart to the movement, it was a love affair, and the public face of the movement was as welcoming as Amma's hugs, and thousands of us bought into it and thought we'd arrived home where the heart is, that troubles would be dealt with, that none would be forsaken and tossed into the outer darkness. Like that -- romantically naive to the hilt was me. And now I have all the anger of a jilted spouse. My bad. I set myself up for it. Thank you, Byron Katie. But, really now, didn't we all have that expectation that Maharishi would be the kindest of gurus, the most understanding, the most forgiving, the most patient with stress ladened ignorance, THE ONE, you know? And, even if we knew he couldn't take the time to be a personal guru, we expected that the movement would be his manifest heart, right? Again, my own romantic claptrap here, but didn't most of us think this way when we first started out with the movement? Even those who'd love to have a good whack on the back from a Zen master's stick have found that the movement's whacks don't always come in a timely and proper fashion -- just when one's head is dipping in meditation -- but rather, that they come without proven merit. Of course, any corporation dealing with the masses will have to bear the travail brought to it by those who are several standard deviations from the marketing mean. The very smart and able, and the very dull and, well, goofy-assed, will be those who rub the movement with the most friction, and how they're treated will be the bookending of the movement's self-policing policy's spectrum. I may be one of the goofy-assed for all I know, and your experiences, not mine, are the norm. In fact, yeah, I am goofy-assed, but my point remains, the movement didn't know how to handle me such that I stayed in the movement -- nor did it know how to keep any of the others it's tossed -- including Kaplan with half a frickin billion dollar net worth and addicted to being a movement insider with access to Maharishi, including Chopra who sprang to international cred by delightfully fleshing out the movement's mystic bones for the masses, including Jerry Jarvis, including Charlie Lutes. Yet the movement showed tapes to all of us as Andy Rymer was telling Maharishi about his experiences, and the movement never quashed the hot blood blasting
[FairfieldLife] WARNING: obscene photo
Richard Gere breaks Indian obscenity laws with kiss. Death penalty or a slap on the wrist? What should his punishment be? From: http://tinyurl.com/2x8kpl http://tinyurl.com/2x8kpl [http://today.reuters.com/misc/GenImage.aspx?uri=2007-04-26T110726Z_01_D\ EL83208_RTRUKOP_2_PICTURE0.jpgresize=w192]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ever wonder where the prudery in the TMO came from?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: India, that's where. Sometimes the sheer backasswards idiocy of India just blows my mind.\ Although I agree with your point, I saw the tape and Gere was being a total dick. With his exposure to Indian culture, he has no excuse for bringing this on himself and to the chick he was mashing on. Haven't seen any video. But what is he supposed to do, pander to a hypocritical culture that doesn't allow kissing in public but that has one of the fastest-growing AIDS rates on the planet because of uncontrolled prostitution? Sure, why not? There's no reason a person can't pander to (i.e., respect) cultural norms in one context while working to counter them and their negative effects in another, especially when not doing the former may arouse resistance to one's efforts toward the latter. The perfect is the enemy of the good.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ever wonder where the prudery in the TMO came from?
Here ya go. I agree with your point, but I also enjoy calling Richard Gere a dick. I'm pretty sure this wont help his cause. I don't think it would be pandering to lighten up on the old letch vibe a bit. It really wasn't fair to the chick. http://youtube.com/watch?v=pt23lqF-nM8 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: India, that's where. Sometimes the sheer backasswards idiocy of India just blows my mind.\ Although I agree with your point, I saw the tape and Gere was being a total dick. With his exposure to Indian culture, he has no excuse for bringing this on himself and to the chick he was mashing on. Haven't seen any video. But what is he supposed to do, pander to a hypocritical culture that doesn't allow kissing in public but that has one of the fastest-growing AIDS rates on the planet because of uncontrolled prostitution?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ever wonder where the prudery in the TMO came from?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here ya go. I agree with your point, but I also enjoy calling Richard Gere a dick. I'm pretty sure this wont help his cause. I don't think it would be pandering to lighten up on the old letch vibe a bit. It really wasn't fair to the chick. What I saw (couldn't hear any sound in this noisy cafe if there was sound) was the chick dragging an obviously reluctant Gere up on stage and not letting him go, all to help her career (she won a silly TV talent contest, ferchrissakes) and him playing along, and then giving her career a bit more of a boost than she expected. She'll ride this tempest in a pisspot all the way to the Bank Of Bollywood. Face it -- this furor is because of Hindu racism, pure and simple. They didn't like seeing a white guy kissing one of their own, especially one that they jack off to photos of every night before get- ting up the next morning and pretending to be pure little Brahmins. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascist America, in 10 easy steps
My TM-tutor told me that this happened two years before King Nader made his epoch- making discovery of the presence of the Veda in the Human Physiology in 1994. Would you or anyone else in this group tell me of Maharishi's itenary for the year 1992.? Thanks. nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:58:21 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fascist America, in 10 easy steps Maharishi was nowhere near India in 1992. If you want to be taken serious when you are spreading your poison, then better as a minimum stick to simple facts. --- Jason Spock jedi_spock@ ... wrote: Chopra's father stabilised Maharishi when he was sick in 1992, in india and sent him to London. Do you think Maharishi is grateful to Chopra for that.?? Why erase all traces of his association with the TM mov 't.?? - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ever wonder where the prudery in the TMO came from?
In a message dated 4/26/2007 1:56:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here ya go. I agree with your point, but I also enjoy calling Richard Gere a dick. I'm pretty sure this wont help his cause. I don't think it would be pandering to lighten up on the old letch vibe a bit. It really wasn't fair to the chick. What I saw (couldn't hear any sound in this noisy cafe if there was sound) was the chick dragging an obviously reluctant Gere up on stage and not letting him go, all to help her career (she won a silly TV talent contest, ferchrissakes) and him playing along, and then giving her career a bit more of a boost than she expected. She'll ride this tempest in a pisspot all the way to the Bank Of Bollywood. Face it -- this furor is because of Hindu racism, pure and simple. They didn't like seeing a white guy kissing one of their own, especially one that they jack off to photos of every night before get- ting up the next morning and pretending to be pure little Brahmins. :-) I hear you no-reply. We finally agree for a change. Thank you for your last reply in wishing me a fast healing with my present personal circumstances. Lsoma. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ever wonder where the prudery in the TMO came from?
Heard of this old Joke in India.?? What's the difference between India and America.? In America, Kissing is allowed in public, but not Pissing, In India, Pissing is allowed in public, but not Kissing. TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:18:43 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ever wonder where the prudery in the TMO came from? India, that's where. Sometimes the sheer backasswards idiocy of India just blows my mind.\ Haven't seen any video. But what is he supposed to do, pander to a hypocritical culture that doesn't allow kissing in public but that has one of the fastest-growing AIDS rates on the planet because of uncontrolled prostitution? - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ever wonder where the prudery in the TMO came from?
In a message dated 4/26/2007 1:31:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here ya go. I agree with your point, but I also enjoy calling Richard Gere a dick. I'm pretty sure this wont help his cause. I don't think it would be pandering to lighten up on the old letch vibe a bit. It really wasn't fair to the chick. _http://youtube.http://youhttp://youhtt_ (http://youtube.com/watch?v=pt23lqF-nM8) --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: India, that's where. Sometimes the sheer backasswards idiocy of India just blows my mind.\ Although I agree with your point, I saw the tape and Gere was being a total dick. With his exposure to Indian culture, he has no excuse for bringing this on himself and to the chick he was mashing on. Haven't seen any video. But what is he supposed to do, pander to a hypocritical culture that doesn't allow kissing in public but that has one of the fastest-growing AIDS rates on the planet because of uncontrolled prostitution? I agree. The AIDS and prostitution problem is worth talking about and just maybe Richard was trying to force the issue because no one is listening in India which hides sexuality as if no one is having sex in India. There are over 30,000 babies being born a day in India (Maybe more) .Somebody is having sex And now, issuing a warrant for his arrest. America is not perfect or any other country for that matter but India has been hiding out in the corner for so long it is time to open up to some ideas or ideologies that come from the West. I visit the Lakshmi Temple here in Ashland, MA and have great respect for their culture so I am speaking from some experience. When I first saw the clip with Richard Gere I was laughing so hard. Indians are making a lot of money in America and America has given a lot of its resources to India. India should be thankful and leave Richard Gere alone. Love and Light. Lsoma. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
[FairfieldLife] Indian Abuse, Vedic Abuse
Insight - Two out of three children in India are physically abused... Thursday April 19 2007 17:15 IST Vimala Ramachandran The recent report brought out by Government of India, Ministry of Women and Child Development has for the first time documented the prevalence of child abuse including the prevalence of violence in schools. The report has come out with startling findings: Two out of every three children were physically abused Out of 69% physically abused in 13 sample states, 54.68% were boys Over 50% of children in all the 13 sample states were subject to one or the other form of physical abuse 88.6% were physically abused by parents 65% of school-going children reported facing corporal punishment two out of three children were victims of corporal punishment, most of them from government and municipal schools 53.22% children reported having faced one or more forms of sexual abuse 5.69% were sexually assaulted Every second child (both boys and girls) reported facing emotional abuse 50.2% of children reported they worked seven days a week this includes children formally enrolled in school Most children did not report the matter to anyone The report has highlighted the vulnerability of boys and girls to various forms of physical, sexual and emotional abuse. Taking all the 13 states together more boys reported physical abuse than girls, though the ratio of girls physically abused was higher in Kerala (55.61%) and Gujarat (54.61%). Incidentally, the highest percentage of abuse among boys was reported from Delhi (62.2%) followed by Madhya Pradesh (59.75%) and Maharashtra (55.75%). The situation of children in institutions / shelters, observation homes and other places created for the protection of children is alarming. Yet, what most of us find difficult to accept is that over 53 per cent of children reported being abused at home and in their families. A very disturbing yet timely part of the report deals with emotional abuse, invisible and insidious. Unfortunately, in India we are still some distance from understanding and acknowledging emotional abuse. Dismissing a girl child as being unwanted at home to caste-based remarks in schools we need to pay more attention to the impact of emotional violence. Humiliation was reported by 44.13 per cent of children and they talked about being humiliated at home, in schools, at work, on the streets and in the institutions created for their protection. Comparison was also reported as another form of emotional abuse. Comparing children with their siblings, with other children in the extended family, with others in schools and in institutions seem to leave a deep impression on the minds of children. The younger age group 5 to 12 years felt that being subjected to such comparison was hurtful. This report reinforces the findings of a number of qualitative studies on barriers to learning and attendance. Discussion with children reveal that they get very upset if they are asked bring their own water / utensils for mid-day meal especially if they belong to the Dalit community. Equally upsetting is getting them to sit in one corner of the classroom, calling them by their caste names and dismissing their performance in school by linking it to their family occupation or telling girls that they will only end up having babies and looking after the house. An overwhelming proportion of girls (70.57%) from different parts of the country reported neglect or deliberate favouring of male siblings. I remember one particular incident that still haunts me. During the course of my work on barriers to education, I asked girls in different states about what they eat at home. Most of the girls from poor rural and urban households said they did not have time to eat breakfast and that their first meal of the day was in school. On probing further they said that when non-vegetarian food is cooked at home they rarely got a piece of meat or fish and were usually asked to make do with the gravy. They resented having to do housework when their brothers were goaded to do their homework and study for examinations. What the girls disliked most was being told that they are being trained to adjust in their marital home, a constant reminder that they do not belong to the natal family and that they will go away one day. Child trafficking is another area that merits urgent attention. It is shocking that our law enforcement agencies do not take reports of missing children seriously. A set of non-negotiable protocols need to be put in place to make sure every report of a missing child, violence against children, corporal punishment in schools, abuse at the hands of policemen (especially of street children) and the silent screams of children working in sweatshops / factories / dhabas and in homes are followed-up. Joint police-civil
[FairfieldLife] Info on 'The Trickster...'
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ever wonder where the prudery in the TMO came from?
At first glance I thought that Gere was unfortunate to be involved in this case of a criminal kiss. On second thought, I believe he fully knew the culture in India. He performed the kiss to make a statement in India, and in so doing to the world. He got the message through which is the awareness for AIDS. He has also raised the hypocrisy of the Indian laws which uphold puritanical mores, while ignoring the cause and suffering of AIDS. According to the latest news, he conveniently left India and is now on the lam from the Indian authorities. Regards, John R. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heard of this old Joke in India.?? What's the difference between India and America.? In America, Kissing is allowed in public, but not Pissing, In India, Pissing is allowed in public, but not Kissing. TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:18:43 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ever wonder where the prudery in the TMO came from? India, that's where. Sometimes the sheer backasswards idiocy of India just blows my mind.\ Haven't seen any video. But what is he supposed to do, pander to a hypocritical culture that doesn't allow kissing in public but that has one of the fastest-growing AIDS rates on the planet because of uncontrolled prostitution? - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ever wonder where the prudery in the TMO came from?
You think Indian Chicks would be jacking off to Richard Gere's Photo.?? TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:51:40 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ever wonder where the prudery in the TMO came from? What I saw (couldn't hear any sound in this noisy cafe if there was sound) was the chick dragging an obviously reluctant Gere up on stage and not letting him go, all to help her career (she won a silly TV talent contest, ferchrissakes) and him playing along, and then giving her career a bit more of a boost than she expected. She'll ride this tempest in a pisspot all the way to the Bank Of Bollywood. Face it -- this furor is because of Hindu racism, pure and simple. They didn't like seeing a white guy kissing one of their own, especially one that they jack off to photos of every night before get- ting up the next morning and pretending to be pure little Brahmins. :-) - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
[FairfieldLife] Media Moguls got it Wrong
Interface - Drop the sex objects Thursday April 19 2007 17:24 IST Toufiq Rashid Womens organisations have been saying it for years, now scientists agree: Sexualisation harms young girls. American Psychological Association reported that the medias portrayal of young women as sex objects harms girls mental and physical health. Sexualisation can lead to a lack of confidence with their bodies as well as depression and eating disorders. Sexualisation was defined as occurring when a persons value comes only from her or his sexual appeal or behaviour, to the exclusion of other characteristics, and when a person is portrayed purely as a sex object. I would just say it is a form of exploitation which commodifies the gender (female), says Dr Jitendra Nagpal, Senior Psychologist VIMHANS. Utilisation of the female form for advertising, glamorising the stereotypical role of females as home breakers, cunning, vampish or just forgiving and subservient on the other hand. The womans form these days sell everything that is desirable from a pen to a household appliance or even a vehicle, selling concepts and ideas which are shallow, says Dr Nagpal. Young pop stars dressed as sex objects, thongs flashing models, even male accessories and cars having skinny models as their ambassadors. The content in movies, TV serials, music videos, even lyrics, advertising, games, comics, internet everything focuses on this image. Youngs girls look at themselves from the images the media wants them to believe in, say experts. It gives them a negative feeling about their bodies, faces and harms them both physically and mentally. Young girls look at media as a career to be rich and famous in a short time, according to Dr Nagpal. Eating disorders, mood swings, starving, losing their sleep, exessive exercising and gyming, and depression are some of the consequences. We have seen cases where girls just stop eating. We have ample evidence to conclude that sexualisation has negative effects in a variety of domains, including cognitive functioning, physical and mental health, says Dr Nagpal. Girls force their parents to give them money for liposuction, plastic surgery, and nose jobs. According to him, there is enough evidence to show that media is responsible for hampering healthy sexual development. Dr Nagpal says it is a multi-pronged approach: It starts from self and than goes to schools, teachers, parents who are important in moulding our lives. Parents, school officials, and health professionals need to be alert about the potential impact on girls and young women. - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ever wonder where the prudery in the TMO came from?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Here ya go. I agree with your point, but I also enjoy calling Richard Gere a dick. I'm pretty sure this wont help his cause. I don't think it would be pandering to lighten up on the old letch vibe a bit. It really wasn't fair to the chick. What I saw (couldn't hear any sound in this noisy cafe if there was sound) was the chick dragging an obviously reluctant Gere up on stage I saw no reluctance on Gere's part in that clip. and not letting him go, all to help her career (she won a silly TV talent contest, ferchrissakes) and him playing along, and then giving her career a bit more of a boost than she expected. She'll ride this tempest in a pisspot all the way to the Bank Of Bollywood. If it does give her career a boost rather than ruin it, I guess the Indians can't be that prudish, eh? Oh, wait, no, it's racism, not prudishness: Face it -- this furor is because of Hindu racism, pure and simple. They didn't like seeing a white guy kissing one of their own, especially one that they jack off to photos of every night before get- ting up the next morning and pretending to be pure little Brahmins. :-) Right, it's *Hindus* who are racist.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls
This is really great advice. Thank you. TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Ginder one of the co-founders of Neuro Linguistic Programing, took this view I think. He was one of my hypnosis instructors. He used to make up rituals on the spot to demonstrate how he could disrupt patterns of thinking. In his writings he was pretty clear that he believed that the content of the ritual was not the most important aspect. He felt that once the mechanism of the ritual was understood for its psychological effect, then you could substitute all the superficial variables to fit the person's cultural context. He felt that some magical beliefs were caused by not knowing what was the most important thing in a ritual, so they get passed down with a lot of baggage and unnecessary beliefs. You know how many shamanic belief systems, such as Native Americans and South Pacific islanders, have a figure in their mythology named The Trickster? That's always been my belief about where the power of ritual comes from. Not from the actions performed or from the language used, or from *any* of those nitty-gritty details. Rituals work because they allow the practitioner of the ritual to trick them- selves into a state of attention in which their desires are more easily manifested. Working with this theory in mind, I once developed a ritual for job or contract interviews that never fails. I get up early, run a few miles, shower, med, and then put on a certain interview suit that I bought in Paris and that I have associated in my mind with success. Then I walk into the interview not giving a damn whether I get the job or the contract, focusing *only* on having as much FUN with the interview process as humanly possible. And it's never failed. Not once. - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
[FairfieldLife] Buying the War
Bill Moyers's 90-minute documentary on how the librul media willingly helped Bush drag us into the war with Iraq is available for viewing online at: http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/btw/watch.html From the Web site: How did the mainstream press get it so wrong? How did the evidence disputing the existence of weapons of mass destruction and the link between Saddam Hussein to 9-11 continue to go largely unreported? What the conservative media did was easy to fathom; they had been cheerleaders for the White House from the beginning and were simply continuing to rally the public behind the President no questions asked. How mainstream journalists suspended skepticism and scrutiny remains an issue of significance that the media has not satisfactorily explored, says Moyers. How the administration marketed the war to the American people has been well covered, but critical questions remain: How and why did the press buy it, and what does it say about the role of journalists in helping the public sort out fact from propaganda?
[FairfieldLife] seminar: How to Bring TM Program to the Work Place
The Meditating Professional: How to Bring the TM Program into the Work Place From: TM Program NYC newyorktmprogram @ globalcountry.net Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 Dear Governors, Citizen Sidhas, and Meditators, A major new initiative to bring the Transcendental Meditation program to the boardroom and the workplace is being launched next week. This national outreach will begin in the Boston and greater New York City areas through a series of seminars from April 30 to May 4.(Please see www.TMBusiness.org for details.) Heading up the initiative is Dr. John Hagelin, director of the newly established Center for Leadership Performance at Maharishi University of Management, and Bob Brown, a retired top executive at the Ziff-Davis media corporation. Many other top executives and physicians are taking leadership roles in the new outreach, including Ramani Ayer, chairman and CEO of The Hartford Financial Services (one of the largest companies in America). The upcoming seminar series, entitled The Meditating Professional will be held in Boston on April 30 and May 1, Greenwich/Westchester on May 2, New York City on May 3, and Long Island on May 4. Thank you and all best wishes, Jai Guru Dev Office of the Raja of New York Please see http://www.TMBusiness.org for details
[FairfieldLife] I think the The Secret is a pant load of new age poop
The Secret seems to be the epitome of what is so spiritually bereft with the TM Cult and its line of thinking in Fairfield Ð nourish that big fat hungry ego with ladles full of me, mine, get more for me, I can have and be as big and as selfish as the whole big me universe... Apparently Byron Katie and her husband Steven Mitchell don't think that much of the so- called Secret either: The Difference Between The Work and The Secret Dear Katie, IÕve been hoping ÒThe SecretÓ craze would pass as quickly as the Hula-Hoop, then this afternoon I saw it featured on Oprah. It seems to me that this so-called ÒsecretÓ is just another way of tricking the mind into thinking it is in control, a message that is diametrically opposed to your invitation to make friends with reality, love what is, just notice, etc. I donÕt understand how someone who has The Work can take this movie seriously; yet, IÕm hearing from people I usually consider sensible that they [the moviemakers] are Òsaying the same thing Katie says.Ó Lots of people. Please consider commenting on this movie/book in the Parlor. Much love, Susan Dearest Susan, Here are StephenÕs thoughts: The Secret: ÒYou can have whatever you want.Ó The Work: ÒYou can want whatever you have.Ó The Secret: ÒMy will be done. I know whatÕs best for me.Ó The Work: ÒThy will be done (=Thy will is done). WhatÕs best for me is what actually happens.Ó (In A Thousand Names for Joy, Katie says, ÒGodÕs will and your will are the same, whether you notice it or not.Ó) The Secret: ÒYou can control your thoughts.Ó The Work: ÒYou are not the thinker. ItÕs not possible to suppress your stressful thoughts. But when you question them, they let go of you.Ó The Secret: ÒYou can manifest your positive thoughts as reality.Ó The Work: ÒReality already is the best thing that could be manifested. When you realize this, youÕre home free.Ó
[FairfieldLife] Re: I think the The Secret is a pant load of new age poop
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, netisquared [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . Apparently Byron Katie and her husband Steven Mitchell don't think that much of the so- called Secret either: Please consider commenting on this movie/book in the Parlor. Much love, Susan Dearest Susan, Here are StephenÕs thoughts: The Secret: ÒMy will be done. I know whatÕs best for me.Ó The Work: ÒThy will be done (=Thy will is done). WhatÕs best for me is what actually happens.Ó I have grappled with this concept for a long time and the closest I can personally come to it is What happens for me is what happens for me. I may not think it is the best, but I know it is what happens. KH (In A Thousand Names for Joy, Katie says, ÒGodÕs will and your will are the same, whether you notice it or not.Ó) The Secret: ÒYou can control your thoughts.Ó The Work: ÒYou are not the thinker. ItÕs not possible to suppress your stressful thoughts. But when you question them, they let go of you.Ó The Secret: ÒYou can manifest your positive thoughts as reality.Ó The Work: ÒReality already is the best thing that could be manifested. When you realize this, youÕre home free.Ó
[FairfieldLife] Do The Yagya, Do The Yagya
Very soon, this voice of peace will dominate world society, and the voice of destruction will find its way out. It does not matter. When the light comes, darkness cannot stay. We just handle the light. Do the Yagya, do the Yagya, do the Yagya. Yagya is one thing, and Yogic Flying is another thing. Yagya and Yoga: Yogic Flying is the Yoga, and Yagya is pertaining to action -- one does something. This is in the field of action. Through the field of action, we generate the field of silence. This is that enormously great technology. It uses the means of diversity to create total unity. This is making possibility out of impossibility. This is that power. It is that which is recorded in religions: Man is made in the image of God. Man can inherit that divine dignity which is the light of God in order that His creation does not suffer -- period. His creation does not suffer. In the Vedic Literature, life is bliss (Ananda). Sat Chit Ananda -- eternal Ananda in the field of Consciousness (Chit). Only Consciousness Is. from a Maharishi press conference, two years ago. full text at: http://press-conference.globalgoodnews.com/archive/may/05.05.18.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Do The Yagya, Do The Yagya
On Apr 26, 2007, at 8:52 PM, george_deforest wrote: Do the Yagya, do the Yagya, do the Yagya. George, is that anything like, Do the Freddy? Maybe MMY is more with-it than he seems. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Lotus amid Corn
A lotus amid the Iowa corn A new Midwestern town has the teachings of a well-known maharishi at its heart. By Carina Chocano, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer September 10, 2006 WHEN I booked my trip last April to attend a conference on Transcendental Meditation at the Maharishi University of Management in Fairfield, Iowa, I had no idea I would be visiting another country. My airline ticket clearly indicated Cedar Rapids, and from there I would rent a car and drive about two hours to a small town 50 miles from the Mississippi River. I was a longtime fan of filmmaker David Lynch, one of the conference's keynote speakers, and I was interested in meditation, occasionally popping in for a guided meditation at a neighborhood Buddhist temple. By the time I had made the travel arrangements, I knew I would be spending two nights at the improbably named Raj, an ayurvedic spa-hotel improbably located in the middle of a cornfield. I knew I would be attending a conference entitled Consciousness, Creativity and the Brain, where John Hagelin, the onetime Natural Law Party presidential candidate would also speak. Hagelin once offered to deploy 400 yogic fliers to Kosovo to meditate for peace (then-Secretary of State Madeleine Albright declined). What I didn't know is that the Raj is not in Fairfield but just outside of it, in a brand-new town called Maharishi Vedic City, which happens to be the North American capital of the Global Country of World Peace. So to say that Maharishi Vedic City exists on a plane of its own is not quite to speak metaphorically. The town, which consists of several still-sprouting residential developments, is surrounded by cornfields dotted with barns and gloomy Victorians. The area is no stranger to sectarian lifestyle experiments: Not far away is the Mennonite community of Kalona, where bearded men and bonneted women drive around in buggies. When I arrived, the sky looked as though it had been carpeted in a gray Stainmaster Berber. Fairfield proper looked as though it had seen better days specifically 1854, when it hosted the first Iowa State Fair. It has the stately but melancholy air of a once-prosperous Midwestern town in decline. By contrast, M.V.C. displays all the architectural characteristics of a new exurban development: gaudy, oversize construction that has no stylistic relation to its environment but instead vaguely alludes to a theme-park version someplace sort of magical and far away. The first thing that alerted me to the existence of the Global Country of World Peace was a bright yellow flag with an orange sunburst design, which I took at first to be an expression of meditator pride, the TM equivalent of a rainbow flag. Checking in at the Raj, I noticed a display of the Global Country's paper money, the ideal currency of the city (though they did take my American Express). * Think pink STEVE YELLIN, my guide and PR liaison for the weekend, met me at my room, which was bright and plush, done in a smoothed-over rustic style I decided to call Santa Barbara Provençal. He was wearing a radiant pure pink cashmere sweater, which I initially took for a fashion statement. But it turned out pink was everywhere. It was the color of the media room at the Raj, where pastel Barcaloungers faced a TV permanently tuned to the Maharishi Channel. And it was the color of the private plane that first delivered the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi to rural Iowa in 1971. Over a vegetarian buffet lunch, I got a brief history of the town. The maharishi (now an octogenarian billionaire living in the Netherlands) introduced TM to the West in the 1950s. He founded the Maharishi University of Management in 1971, around the time he became one in the long line of fifth Beatles. (John Lennon would go on to write the none-too-flattering Sexy Sadie.) Vedic City grew around the school, incorporating in 2001. Vedic refers to Veda, the Sanskrit word for knowledge, which the maharishi claims to have distilled into a comprehensive system for living. TM is just the beginning. The complete Vedic science of consciousness encompasses architecture, education, health, agriculture, administration, economy and defense. There are, according to the TM organization, more than 6 million practitioners worldwide. Fairfield/M.V.C. is home to a few thousand of them and offers, beyond individual daily practice, an all-inclusive lifestyle. After lunch, my guide took me on a tour of the town. All of the structures in M.V.C. are built in strict adherence to Maharishi Sthapatya Veda technique, which requires that all buildings face east, include a central quiet space, and be adorned with a golden dollop called a kalash. The houses cost $200,000 to $800,000, including consultation fees and royalties, which sounded like a lot for rural Iowa, but I was told that people who live and work in these buildings report that
[FairfieldLife] wastewater bypasses in Fairfield
Another band of heavy rainfall across the state Tuesday and Wednesday has resulted in wastewater bypasses in Fairfield and neighboring counties. The Iowa Department of Natural Resources says when wastewater treatment facilities are bypassed, sewage is not treated before it is sent directly into a body of water. Bypasses can occur as a result of mechanical failures and power outages, but also from heavy rainfalls or snowmelts. The DNR tracks bypass reports submitted by facilities and follows up with the facility to determine problems and help them upgrade their systems, although it can be a long-term process. The DNR has also formed a committee to discuss how it handles wet weather bypasses. The City of Fairfield began bypassing at 11 p.m. Tuesday to a tributary of Big Cedar Creek. Officials estimate it has bypassed about 185,000 gallons so far. source: KMCD News at http://radiovillage.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Save the Dome, send $
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: snip Also, it turns out there isn't money in the regular University operating budget for major repairs either. Tap Girish. Methinks there could be some dough there. lruk No shit. Chump change for him. FW: So that leaves it up to us to fix the Dome roof. Think of it as a small way to repay Maharishi's recent generosity...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Info on 'The Trickster...'
Krishna functioned in the relative as a trickster archetype, just like MMY. --- Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.faculty.de.gcsu.edu/~mmagouli/trickster.htm - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ever wonder where the prudery in the TMO came from?
TurquoiseB wrote: They didn't like seeing a white guy kissing one of their own, especially one that they jack off to photos of every night before get- ting up the next morning and pretending to be pure little Brahmins. :-) Maybe you're the racist - lots of Indian Brahmins are of Caucasian stock, the original Aryan speakers. What an idiot.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Do The Yagya, Do The Yagya
---Save the Cheerleader, save the world! In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very soon, this voice of peace will dominate world society, and the voice of destruction will find its way out. It does not matter. When the light comes, darkness cannot stay. We just handle the light. Do the Yagya, do the Yagya, do the Yagya. Yagya is one thing, and Yogic Flying is another thing. Yagya and Yoga: Yogic Flying is the Yoga, and Yagya is pertaining to action -- one does something. This is in the field of action. Through the field of action, we generate the field of silence. This is that enormously great technology. It uses the means of diversity to create total unity. This is making possibility out of impossibility. This is that power. It is that which is recorded in religions: Man is made in the image of God. Man can inherit that divine dignity which is the light of God in order that His creation does not suffer -- period. His creation does not suffer. In the Vedic Literature, life is bliss (Ananda). Sat Chit Ananda -- eternal Ananda in the field of Consciousness (Chit). Only Consciousness Is. from a Maharishi press conference, two years ago. full text at: http://press-conference.globalgoodnews.com/archive/may/05.05.18.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Buying the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill Moyers's 90-minute documentary on how the librul media willingly helped Bush drag us into the war with Iraq is available for viewing online at: http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/btw/watch.html From the Web site: How did the mainstream press get it so wrong? How did the evidence disputing the existence of weapons of mass destruction and the link between Saddam Hussein to 9-11 continue to go largely unreported? What the conservative media did was easy to fathom; they had been cheerleaders for the White House from the beginning and were simply continuing to rally the public behind the President no questions asked. How mainstream journalists suspended skepticism and scrutiny remains an issue of significance that the media has not satisfactorily explored, says Moyers. How the administration marketed the war to the American people has been well covered, but critical questions remain: How and why did the press buy it, and what does it say about the role of journalists in helping the public sort out fact from propaganda? Watched it last night. Brilliant reporting by Moyers. He spares no one in the media, including himself. The entire story of how this war was sold to the American public is just now starting to unfold. It is a shameful tale.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ever wonder where the prudery in the TMO came from?
TurquoiseB wrote: Face it -- this furor is because of Hindu racism, pure and simple. They didn't like seeing a white guy kissing one of their own, especially one that they jack off to photos of every night before get- ting up the next morning and pretending to be pure little Brahmins. :-) Judy wrote: Right, it's *Hindus* who are racist. Shilpa Shetty, one of the most popular actresses in India, hardly needs a career boost from Richard Gere. Shilpa is a four-time Filmfare Award-nominated Indian film actress, model, AIDS activist and PETA supporter. Maybe Uncle Barry needs to get out more - he seems to be totally unaware of the recent scandal involving racism and Ms Shetty. Maybe Barry spends too much time in bars and cafes instead of out in the real world. How embarrasing for Barry. During her time in Celebrity Big Brother, Shetty was allegedly a target of racism and bullying by other housemates. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shilpa_Shetty
[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls
TurquoiseB wrote: Working with this theory in mind, I once developed a ritual for job or contract interviews that never fails. I get up early, run a few miles, shower, med, and then put on a certain interview suit that I bought in Paris and that I have associated in my mind with success. Then I walk into the interview not giving a damn whether I get the job or the contract, focusing *only* on having as much FUN with the interview process as humanly possible. And it's never failed. Not once. So, you trick them into thinking you can do the work. Nice. But how, exactly, does an American get jobs over in France on a tourist visa? Apparently you've outsourced yourself. So, how do French workers feel about immigrants taking their jobs and going to French free clinics?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Buying the War
Bill Moyers's 90-minute documentary on how the librul media willingly helped Bush drag us into the war with Iraq is available for viewing online at: http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/btw/watch.html geezerfreak wrote: Watched it last night. Brilliant reporting by Moyers. He spares no one in the media, including himself. The entire story of how this war was sold to the American public is just now starting to unfold. It is a shameful tale. So, you're a TV watcher. If the media led you astray before we went to war in Iraq, what makes you think that the media is telling the truth now? But I found Moyers' arguments weak. Almost all the reasons cited by Moyers could be applied to the war in Afghanistan or in Kosovo. And it's a fact that we've been in the middle of a civil war in Korea for decades. Senate Passes Surrender/Pork Bill: http://powerlineblog.com/archives/017451.php
[FairfieldLife] Re: Do The Yagya, Do The Yagya
george deforest wrote: Do the Yagya, do the Yagya, do the Yagya. Sal Sunshine wrote: George, is that anything like, Do the Freddy? Maybe MMY is more with-it than he seems. sorry, Sal, i dont remember the Freddy; back in my disco days, it was do the Hustle! btw, that sincerely is my fond memory, no pun intended; but hey, if the shoe fits ... maybe it was his favorite song too, LOL
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ever wonder where the prudery in the TMO came from?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Here ya go. I agree with your point, but I also enjoy calling Richard Gere a dick. I'm pretty sure this wont help his cause. I don't think it would be pandering to lighten up on the old letch vibe a bit. It really wasn't fair to the chick. What I saw (couldn't hear any sound in this noisy cafe if there was sound) was the chick dragging an obviously reluctant Gere up on stage I saw no reluctance on Gere's part in that clip. and not letting him go, all to help her career (she won a silly TV talent contest, ferchrissakes) and him playing along, and then giving her career a bit more of a boost than she expected. She'll ride this tempest in a pisspot all the way to the Bank Of Bollywood. If it does give her career a boost rather than ruin it, I guess the Indians can't be that prudish, eh? Oh, wait, no, it's racism, not prudishness: Face it -- this furor is because of Hindu racism, pure and simple. They didn't like seeing a white guy kissing one of their own, especially one that they jack off to photos of every night before get- ting up the next morning and pretending to be pure little Brahmins. :-) Right, it's *Hindus* who are racist. There are Hells Angels in Europe, so perhaps Barry could start a chapter of the KKK in France. Then all of the 'colored folk' could bend over and kiss his lily white ass.
[FairfieldLife] Monkey eat, monkey sick
Monkey eat, monkey sick Macaques throw up surprising data Marc Abrahams Tuesday April 10, 2007 Guardian Researchers have given little consideration to vomiting in non-human primates. Quite so. A new report called Vomiting in Wild Bonnet Macaques points that out, and tries to remedy the deficiency. Elizabeth Johnson, Eric Hill and Matthew Cooper published their study in the International Journal of Primatology. Johnson is at Oglethorpe University in Atlanta, Georgia. Hill is at Arizona State University, and Cooper at Georgia State University. They start with a fond look back at the work of earlier experts. The consensus view, they say, is that vomiting is a theoretically complex behaviour that to date lacks a comprehensive explanation. Johnson, Hill and Cooper spent time with macaques, carefully noting when each individual animal vomited and whether it then reingested (for that is the technical term) whatever came up. All told, the scientists compiled both quantitative and qualitative data on observations of 163 instances of vomiting from two groups of bonnet macaques in southern India. They used this data to establish a conservative rate of vomiting in free-ranging macaques. The rate is 0.0042 vomits per individual per hour. That's the conservatively high estimate, using data gathered by watching macaques who live near a temple on Chamundi Hill, a forested outcrop near Mysore in Karnataka. But it is not the whole story. Another group of macaques lives in the Indira Gandhi Wildlife Sanctuary, in Anaimalai Hills, Tamil Nadu. These forest-dwellers vomit at a different rate from their temple cousins: 0.0028 vomits per macaque per hour. The scientists observed closely and keenly. Here is a typical passage from their report: Only one adult female in the forest showed interest in another macaque's vomit; she twice smelled the mouth of an adult female. During observations at the temple, we saw 20 different individuals show interest in another's vomit on 21 occasions. Ten of the individuals were successful in eating some of it on 11 occasions. Of the individuals that ate or tasted another monkey's vomit, two were adult females, two were adult males, three were juvenile females, and three were infants. The study builds to a thrilling conclusion. The researchers explain what, to them, is a central mystery about vomiting in wild bonnet macaques. Why, they ask, don't the macaques simply vomit and walk away? Why do they immediately reingest the vomit? Earlier scientists seem not to have noticed this mystery or, if they did notice, to have offered a good explanation. The key, according to Johnson, Hill and Cooper, lies in a simple fact. Macaques have spacious pouches in their cheeks. Johnson, Hill and Cooper apply some logic. We suggest that the tendency to hoard food in their cheek pouches explains why they reingested the vomit. The study concludes with a modest statement: Our data offer insight into a normal, but largely ignored, behaviour of cercopithecines. (Thanks to Eduardo B Ottoni for bringing this to my attention.) · Marc Abrahams is editor of the bimonthly magazine Annals of Improbable Research and organiser of the Ig Nobel Prize EducationGuardian.co.uk © Guardian News and Media Limited 2007 http://tinyurl.com/2zz2x4
[FairfieldLife] Re: Buying the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Bill Moyers's 90-minute documentary on how the librul media willingly helped Bush drag us into the war with Iraq is available for viewing online at: http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/btw/watch.html From the Web site: How did the mainstream press get it so wrong? How did the evidence disputing the existence of weapons of mass destruction and the link between Saddam Hussein to 9-11 continue to go largely unreported? What the conservative media did was easy to fathom; they had been cheerleaders for the White House from the beginning and were simply continuing to rally the public behind the President no questions asked. How mainstream journalists suspended skepticism and scrutiny remains an issue of significance that the media has not satisfactorily explored, says Moyers. How the administration marketed the war to the American people has been well covered, but critical questions remain: How and why did the press buy it, and what does it say about the role of journalists in helping the public sort out fact from propaganda? Watched it last night. Brilliant reporting by Moyers. He spares no one in the media, including himself. The entire story of how this war was sold to the American public is just now starting to unfold. It is a shameful tale. Shameful, but not surprising imo. It was a marketing campaign, adopted so that those same mainstream journalists could continue to gain access to the white house. It is what they have always done, the backroom deals, the unnamed sources, the sucking up. Only this time those in the white house were evil, and the journalists just followed them blindly like lemmings off a cliff.
