[FairfieldLife] Curtis Knight (Ed Dantes?) predicted Jimi's death?

2007-10-15 Thread cardemaister
The lyrics seem to be based on what Jimi himself had told him. - Also in compound time is the Ballad of Jimi. The writing credits are compounded too, sometimes accrediting Curtis Knight, sometimes Ed Dantes. Knight seems the more likely writer of a song that went through a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Links between New Age and Naziism -- in Fairfield?

2007-10-15 Thread Bhairitu
And WWII made money for these people all the way around. Angela Mailander wrote: Who's they is a good question, and I know for sure that I can't know what the upper levels of the governing hierarchy are. I know for sure the Vatican was very much involved in the creation of Hitler. And

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To the question who are they and how do I know it: Briefly the way Hitler got made was this: Two guys show up in Munich, both with a long string of aliases and both of them from abroad. Nobody knows where they

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Links between New Age and Naziism -- in Fairfield?

2007-10-15 Thread Bronte Baxter
Angela Mailander wrote: Who's they is a good question, and I know for sure that I can't know what the upper levels of the governing hierarchy are. I know for sure the Vatican was very much involved in the creation of Hitler. And Wall Street was ultimately responsible for the financing. In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Links between New Age and Naziism -- in Fairfield?

2007-10-15 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatever else meditation may be, it certainly is also a fabulous social engineering tool. Consider: Maharishi took a bunch of freedom and democracy loving hippies, and, in the space of twenty years, turned

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Card: a follow up on YS III. 37. Thanks for the discussion.

2007-10-15 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About YS III.37 - Card: please note that the sutra in question is #37 not 38. All my translations are the same in the numbering sequence. You apparently have an extra sutra in your edition, either by addition or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Links between New Age and Naziism -- in Fairfield?

2007-10-15 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Angela Mailander wrote: Who's they is a good question, and I know for sure that I can't know what the upper levels of the governing hierarchy are. I know for sure the Vatican was very much involved in the creation

[FairfieldLife] I rest my case about Righteous Anger

2007-10-15 Thread TurquoiseB
I log off for the evening, having written a little something about righteous anger as a drug, and as an addiction, and what do I find when I check FFL in the morning? 92 new posts, only 5 or 6 of which are *not* some form of people getting carried away behind (and getting off on) righteous anger.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Links between New Age and Naziism -- in Fairfield?

2007-10-15 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Angela Mailander Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 4:30 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Links between New

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread nablusoss1008
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dedicated to Nablososs Jai Guru Dev Love, Sri Sri Vaj Illuminati Headquarters Brocken Mountain, Germany I heard that from Maharishi myself, in Washington DC in 1983, when a reporter asked him what he

[FairfieldLife] Spirituality In Action

2007-10-15 Thread TurquoiseB
I heard an interesting story about local events recently that kinda inspired me. Upon moving here and getting to know Spain a little better, I was surprised to find that there are strong enclaves of Seventh-Day Adventists here. Whole *towns* are composed mainly of Seventh-Day Adventists, who are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the guys sent to find a person in Germany who would become a suitable dictator said as he was allegedly dying in a hospital in Shanghai that the people who run the world are in Tibet or were educated

[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Sri Chinmoy

2007-10-15 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hitler and the Lords of Materiality/the forces of evil

2007-10-15 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter brontebaxter8@ wrote: Angela Mailander wrote: More on nazism and the evolutionary process: Question: If I understand you correctly, the Antichrist is a

Re: [FairfieldLife] I rest my case about Righteous Anger

2007-10-15 Thread Bronte Baxter
Dear Turq, the world isn't bettered by merely noticing the sunshine and the birds. As long as there is suffering in it, there are things that need worked out. TM was a bliss-based movement, that taught us all to think positive thoughts and life would be just groovey. Turned out that wasn't so.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Lurk, Miscommunication Re: Angela's take on the pompous shit

2007-10-15 Thread Peter
And throw in the Trilateral commission along with the robots at the airport and then the low dome numbers really start making sense. --- Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is true that no mainstream academic historian would touch the occult side of the Hitler-regime. Those that

[FairfieldLife] Rolling Stones - The Bad Guys

2007-10-15 Thread do.rflex
From Their Satanic Majesties Request - 2000 Light Years From Home YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VRH76HalKI

[FairfieldLife] Re: I rest my case about Righteous Anger

2007-10-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Turq, the world isn't bettered by merely noticing the sunshine and the birds. As long as there is suffering in it, there are things that need worked out. Agreed. But when the *only* thing someone seems able

Re: [FairfieldLife] Righeous Anger As A Form Of Jacking Off

2007-10-15 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 10/14/07 2:53:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Righteous anger is a RUSH. It gets yer heart pumpin' and yer blood rushin' around in yer veins and yer adrenaline pumpin' and it gets you HIGH, man. Be HONEST, people! The last time you lost it to a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread feste37
How many Jews has Maharishi murdered? How many death camps has he set up? It must be hard for you living in this town, surrounded by a movement that resembles the Nazis so closely. It seems to me that your mind is so distorted, heaven knows by what, that you cannot make clear distinctions

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread Angela Mailander
Research has shown again and again that ordinary folks are very willing to hurt others with electric shock in laboratory settings. Experience has shown again and again that folks do not interfere when they see someone hurt someone else. Add to that absolute devotion to a guru, the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Links between New Age and Naziism -- in Fairfield?

2007-10-15 Thread Angela Mailander
Absolutely. Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine doesn't research as far back as that, but the mind set she discusses was alive and well in WWI as well. a Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And WWII made money for these people all the way around. Angela Mailander

[FairfieldLife] The Nazis and Tibet

2007-10-15 Thread Vaj
http://snipurl.com/1s6mo http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/en/archives/advanced/kalachakra/ shambhala/nazi_connection_shambhala_tibet.html http://snipurl.com/1s6mk http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/en/archives/advanced/kalachakra/ shambhala/mistaken_foreign_myths_shambhala.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread Angela Mailander
I'm not exonerating anyone, nor am I blaming anyone. I assume that when you say that you've read everything you could find on WWII, you mean what you could find in English. I read German, French, and Russian and can get through Dutch, Italian, Spanish and Danish given time and a dictionary.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Links between New Age and Naziism -- in Fairfield?

2007-10-15 Thread Angela Mailander
It was Sitchin I meant. So everything I said actually refers to Sitchin. a hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Angela Mailander wrote: Who's they is a good question, and I know

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread Angela Mailander
I hope you're right. How do you know the stuff about the astral plane? books? original experience? other evidence? a nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the guys sent

[FairfieldLife] Re: Difficult to Digest

2007-10-15 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a friend in town: This author came to our town Friday night to speak. I went to hear him on an intuitive call (I had a dream earlier in the week when I was staying at my sister Vicki's home where the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread feste37
How many atrocities have been committed by TMers? Your reasoning reminds me of the Rodney King trial in LA in 1992, when the defense managed to deconstruct the case to the extent that what was obviously true no longer appeared so. You take a few concepts and ideas, compare them to a few other

[FairfieldLife] Definition of sage vs Sat Guru

2007-10-15 Thread Ron
Sat Guru: 0- Inner Guru is that which resonates with Truth, that the Sat Guru ignites with Living Expression and methdologies that pull away the layers of untruth, until simply the Reality rather than a projection remains. Sage: Go Guru, Go Guru, get your Groove on, Go Guru!! Sat Guru:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread Angela Mailander
Your first question misses my point so completely, I'm at a loss as to how to respond. And no, it's not hard to live in this town. I chose it and love it here. a feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many Jews has Maharishi murdered? How many death camps has he

[FairfieldLife] Turq the besmircher (Re: I rest my case about Righteous Anger)

2007-10-15 Thread Duveyoung
TurquoiseB wrote: Agreed. But when the *only* thing someone seems able to focus on and talk about is the parts that need fixing (uh...for example...someone such as yourself), then the challenge to see if this person is still *capable* of posting something -- anything -- that is completely

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread Vaj
On Oct 15, 2007, at 10:46 AM, feste37 wrote: How many atrocities have been committed by TMers? Your reasoning reminds me of the Rodney King trial in LA in 1992, when the defense managed to deconstruct the case to the extent that what was obviously true no longer appeared so. You take a few

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread Rick Archer
I’d like to comment on someone’s observation that Maharishi took the best and the brightest of the baby boomers and turned them into bug-eyed cult zombies. Another way of looking at it is that he took a bunch of drugged-out hippies and enabled them to live wholesome, productive lives. When I

[FairfieldLife] Re: I rest my case about Righteous Anger

2007-10-15 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I log off for the evening, having written a little something about righteous anger as a drug, and as an addiction, and what do I find when I check FFL in the morning? 92 new posts, only 5 or 6 of which are *not* some

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread feste37
Thanks for confirming my point. I ask you a blunt question that draws out the implications of what you are saying, and you are at a loss as to how to respond. Precisely. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your first question misses my point so

[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Sri Chinmoy

2007-10-15 Thread pranamoocher
I don't believe in these rumors at all. I received full enlightenment from him in NYC in 1975. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- amarnath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Died Thursday

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread feste37
You're doing the same thing as Angela. There is no comparison between the TM movement and the Nazis that can pass any kind of basic test (except on this board of course). Using these kinds of arguments I could prove that my granny resembled Stalin. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to comment on someone's observation that Maharishi took the best and the brightest of the baby boomers and turned them into bug-eyed cult zombies. That's total nonsense. Another way of looking at it is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not exonerating anyone, nor am I blaming anyone. I assume that when you say that you've read everything you could find on WWII, you mean what you could find in English. I read German, French, and Russian

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of do.rflex Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 10:51 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler Absolutely. My case wasn't as extreme but Transcendental Meditation got me to stop drug

[FairfieldLife] Re: Righeous Anger As A Form Of Jacking Off

2007-10-15 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote: If you strike back, you're a wuss. In Buddhist thought, that is. But, does this apply to the Japanese and Buddhist martial tradition? In Hindu thought, as expressed so eloquently by Krishna, you should go out and waste the people whose words or actions affronted you.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread curtisdeltablues
Nabby, you have found a soul mate! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander mailander111@ wrote: One of the guys sent to find a person in Germany who would become a suitable dictator said as he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Sri Chinmoy

2007-10-15 Thread Peter
But are SC's enlightened status as experienced by you and his dick play as experienced by someone else somehow mutually exclusive? I don't think they are. And also, what do you mean when you say you received full enlightenment from him? --- pranamoocher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't believe

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread Vaj
On Oct 15, 2007, at 12:24 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Nabby, you have found a soul mate! Think of the romantic evenings: channelling (sorry, OVERSHADOWING) together, waiting for the latest Maitreya sighting, chasing down Nazi reptilian shape-shifters, talking to lamas in Tibet over the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of do.rflex Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 10:51 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you watch The Occult History of the Third Reich, the BBC documentary, esp. the episode The SS: Blood and the Soil, it would become more apparent what the significance is. Prior to the arising of Hitler's

[FairfieldLife] On line ashram description

2007-10-15 Thread Ron
Om Namo Narayan - Great Day This is not a chat list but rather an working online Ashram. As such there are some rules and regulations. The following are Musts and not simply suggestions. 1. Post an introduction as per the instructions sent via the automatically generated mail. 2. Post

[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Sri Chinmoy

2007-10-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@

[FairfieldLife] Andrew Cohen Quote of the Week - Serious Spiritual Practice

2007-10-15 Thread Rick Archer
Some of you might enjoy subscribing to this: If you are having trouble viewing this email, HYPERLINK http://www.andrewcohen.org/email/admin/WebVersion.asp?ecp=qotw-101507id=25 1db=qotwclick here. HYPERLINK http://www.wie.org/_e/ui/ac/ac-logo.gifandrewcohen.org Here is the corrected

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread Angela Mailander
Some of you are a little hasty in drawing conclusions about what I've said so far and even the nature of my mind. So far, all I've done is drawn a few comparisons that life and study have presented me with. I have not drawn any of many possible conclusions that could be drawn from these

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread Bronte Baxter
His point, Angela, seems to be that your paralleling the TMO and Nazi Germany is not to be taken seriously because, unlike the Nazis, the movement has never committed violence. True. However, fiesty Feste, Angela did already address this fact in her first or second post on the subject. She said

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread Angela Mailander
I could give you solid documentation for the fact that Trebitsch-Lincoln did in fact take a radio to the Dali Lama. Unfortunately for me, most of my sources are not in English. Where I went to grad school people did dismiss one another's ideas, but not without a better hearing than you've

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread Angela Mailander
Again, you are missing my point. As I said, I have drawn some comparisons. I have drawn no conclusions, and I have called no one either good or evil. a feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for confirming my point. I ask you a blunt question that draws out

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Sri Chinmoy

2007-10-15 Thread Angela Mailander
Enlightenment maybe, critical thinking, definitely not. a pranamoocher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't believe in these rumors at all. I received full enlightenment from him in NYC in 1975. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread Angela Mailander
Again let me state clearly that I have drawn some comparisons. I have made no judgments about either Hitler or Mahesh. Those judgments have all come from the group, not from me. a do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread Angela Mailander
You are still not getting it. You are judging Hitler as evil and Mahesh as good. This judgment blinds you to what I am doing. a feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're doing the same thing as Angela. There is no comparison between the TM movement and the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread Angela Mailander
You are making some unwarranted assumptions about what gets published where. Note that in your case they are assumptions since you don't read other languages. In my case, however, it's not assumptions but real reading experience and research experience. The two dudes that started the Thule

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread Angela Mailander
Again, my comparison is in no way intended to dismiss or diminish what TM has done for people. It's not part of what I am discussing. I have not attacked anyone with my comparison. A comparison is simply a comparison. Conclusions come much later. a Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread curtisdeltablues
t's a big topic, and a little too early to dismiss it as unworthy of considerations. I've barely laid the groundwork. Uh oh... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of you are a little hasty in drawing conclusions about what I've said so far

[FairfieldLife] To Hugh/ Re: Links between New Age and Naziism -- in Fairfield?

2007-10-15 Thread Bronte Baxter
Hugh wrote: If you are seriously interested in human origins a much better place to start research would be the books of Richard Dawkins, try the Blind Watchmaker or River out of Eden A good understanding of evolution is an essential starting place before considering the tripe tossed out by

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread Angela Mailander
I agree that the TMO can't be singled out, and if I did, I was in error. There's tons of New Age stuff around, just as there was in Germany before and during Hitler. Also, don't forget that I've been a meditator for going on sixty-two years now. The worst thing I've said about TMO and other

[FairfieldLife] Posting Limits

2007-10-15 Thread Rick Archer
To Angela and other newcomers. A while back we established a limit of 35 posts per week to “force” people to favor quality over quantity and hopefully, to cut down on bickering that was resulting in the forum being overrun with a lot of posts that the majority were not interested in. The tactic

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] There is some evidence that American concentration camps are already built (and note I said evidence, I did not say proof), then those who man the gas valves will most likely not be the TM crowd. On the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread feste37
So the implication is that MMY, like the Nazis, has prepared his people to be nonchalant about mass murder by instilling New Age principles in them in advance of the violence. Any shred of evidence to support this preposterous notion? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL

RE: [FairfieldLife] Posting Limits

2007-10-15 Thread Rick Archer
P.S., Angela, you’re up to 27 posts. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.10/1070 - Release Date: 10/14/2007 9:22 AM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread feste37
I see what you are doing very well. Here's my advice: forget about the Nazis. Thinking about them is doing you no good at all. Instead, go out and buy a big cookbook and cook a delicious meal for your man, if you have one. It will make you feel better. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
A manifestation similar to other manifestations during the pre-Nazi and Nazi era -- not necessarily cocreators, simply there concurrently. Is that clear? *I want every person to be complete in themselves. Your himsa has no placein my mission.* On 10/15/07, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
There is corroberating articles and perhaps even video at this link: http://NewUSConcentrationCamps.andmuchmore.com regarding US concentration camps already built. Of all that anyone leading or teaching has to convey, the most valuable thing to cultivate and convey to others is *a moral

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread Angela Mailander
When did I say Mahesh prepared his people to commit mass murder? These are conclusions you are drawing, these are not accusations I am making. I'm beginning to think some folks in Ff don't know how to read. Not all responses have been on the level of get yourself barefoot into the kitchen,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread Bhairitu
If you're referring to my comment it was about TTC not just people learning TM. Becoming a teacher was a magnitude much deeper than just being a meditator or even Sidha. What you're saying is that meditation became a replacement for drugs albeit a safe one. That would have worked with a lot

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread feste37
You must be very naive. The reason this poster is making such statements is to imply that TM people think like Nazis and are members of a proto-Nazi movement that has the potential to do much harm. It doesn't seem to bother her that she lives in this town and is slandering her friends and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Links between New Age and Naziism -- in Fairfield?

2007-10-15 Thread Angela Mailander
I'm not ascribing evil intent to anyone and shall probably never do so. a Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 14, 2007, at 5:21 PM, Angela Mailander wrote: I might not have time to elaborate too much this week since I've got a house guest from China staying with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
I'm witnessing much projection from people reading things into statements that in fact, both grammatically, literally, explicitly and imiplicitly are not being made by the people the misreaders are accusing of. As meditators, more mature objectivization is a consequence of sincerity in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must be very naive. The reason this poster is making such statements is to imply that TM people think like Nazis and are members of a proto-Nazi movement that has the potential to do much harm. Same old story about

Re: [FairfieldLife] Lurk, Miscommunication Re: Angela's take on the pompous shit

2007-10-15 Thread Bhairitu
authfriend wrote: This business of Hitler and the New Age comes from the same cryptohistory drawer as The DaVinci Code. No serious historian would touch it with a ten-foot pole. Look it up on the Web and see how many of the hundreds of thousands of sites devoted to it are fundie Christian.

[FairfieldLife] The good things TM gave us

2007-10-15 Thread Bronte Baxter
do.rflx wrote: I look at the quantity of people like myself in that seemingly 'unique' and 'special' time frame who were 'lost' in the darker side of the hippie daze [days], or just plain 'lost' - and because of TM became positive and hopeful for probably the first time in many of their lives.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread Duveyoung
feste37 wrote: I see what you are doing very well. Here's my advice: forget about the Nazis. Thinking about them is doing you no good at all. Instead, go out and buy a big cookbook and cook a delicious meal for your man, if you have one. It will make you feel better. Edg: After what I've been

[FairfieldLife] Re: Righeous Anger As A Form Of Jacking Off

2007-10-15 Thread diswartz2
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis posted an insight today, in his wonderful Hemingwayesque do-it-in-as-few-words-as-possible style, that still has me reeling from its profundity. It just explains so MUCH, man. Think Rush Limbaugh. Think

[FairfieldLife] Re: The good things TM gave us

2007-10-15 Thread curtisdeltablues
I'm a fairly clear channel for my God Double uh oh. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do.rflx wrote: I look at the quantity of people like myself in that seemingly 'unique' and 'special' time frame who were 'lost' in the darker side of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread feste37
I'm always pleased to get a reaction. My advice to you is, acquire a sense of humor. Failing that, cook a meal for your woman, if you have one (or your man, if you happen to be a homosexual), and then maybe you'll calm down a bit. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread feste37
What you're failing to recognize is the technique of the smear. How many times have you heard a politician make a smear and then claim that his words are being taken out of context? The idea is simply to plant the seed, and then let it do its work while you pretend that you didn't really mean it.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Links between New Age and Naziism -- in Fairfield?

2007-10-15 Thread Angela Mailander
MMY's interest in Hitler may be to the point and it may not. My interest in Hitler certainly doesn't make me a Nazi. Someone has suggested that my interest in these things is not good for me. I'd like to know why not? Is a historian's field of interest not good for him? Is a researcher's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The good things TM gave us

2007-10-15 Thread Bronte Baxter
Bronte writes: As we are ALL channels for our God, Curtis. In my view, we each have a higher self, our own personal God, or you could say, our ego in its most pure individualized state. Our human bodies and personalities are channels for that being, as well as for God in the universal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Links between New Age and Naziism -- in Fairfield?

2007-10-15 Thread feste37
Interesting how you take a few comments scattered over the years that MMY may or may not have said about Hitler and turn it into MMY's interest in Hitler, which implies something quite different. And you make this blatant distortion in the interest of . . . what, precisely? --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: The good things TM gave us

2007-10-15 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bronte writes: As we are ALL channels for our God, Curtis. What you mean we whiteman? (Old Tonto joke reference) In my view, we each have a higher self, our own personal God, or you could say, our ego in its

Re: [FairfieldLife] The good things TM gave us

2007-10-15 Thread Bhairitu
Bronte Baxter wrote: snip What I come up with is this. TM did deliver experience of the stillest states of awareness, that most of us had been too outward-directed ever to have noticed before. It pointed us toward home. That was fantastic. But just as a bad product offer can include a

[FairfieldLife] Hutterists?

2007-10-15 Thread cardemaister
Has anybody heard of 'hutterists'(sp?)? I think they are some kind of Christian communists.

[FairfieldLife] To Angela

2007-10-15 Thread Bronte Baxter
Angela, you are superb. The fact that you've caused such angry reactions and railing denial is evidence that you've pressed some serious oh my god, what could this mean? buttons. A lot of folks here are very defensive of the TMO, as they still are members. It's scary to get your most basic

[FairfieldLife] Supernatural Programs Flood US Television

2007-10-15 Thread Bhairitu
Could it be predictive programming or that such shows are even more spell-binding (pardon the pun) than the usual junk. From the New York Times: A Person Could Develop Occult By ALESSANDRA STANLEY THERE must be a rational explanation for all the supernatural phenomena on television. There

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Links between New Age and Naziism -- in Fairfield?

2007-10-15 Thread Angela Mailander
Read the posts. I made zero comments about what MMY said. All that came from others, which I noted with interest. I had no idea he ever said anything at all about Hitler. So what, exactly, have I distorted? a feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting how you

Re: [FairfieldLife] The good things TM gave us

2007-10-15 Thread Bronte Baxter
snip Actually the advanced techniques are more like the traditional mantras without omkara. But most TM'ers including teachers never step out enough to learn mantra shastra to know that and MMY never taught mantra shastra which is the science of mantras. Using bij aksharas as a meditation

[FairfieldLife] Re: The good things TM gave us

2007-10-15 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have the right to say anything you want. When you say I am God I have the right to say Uh oh. I have my reasons. Or not. Most reasons are rationalizations, as brain research suggests. What you think to be 'my

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hutterists?

2007-10-15 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anybody heard of 'hutterists'(sp?)? I think they are some kind of Christian communists. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Hutter

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're referring to my comment it was about TTC not just people learning TM. Becoming a teacher was a magnitude much deeper than just being a meditator or even Sidha. What you're saying is that meditation became a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hutterists?

2007-10-15 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: Has anybody heard of 'hutterists'(sp?)? I think they are some kind of Christian communists. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Hutter

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread Vaj
On Oct 15, 2007, at 1:33 PM, Angela Mailander wrote: I could give you solid documentation for the fact that Trebitsch- Lincoln did in fact take a radio to the Dali Lama. Unfortunately for me, most of my sources are not in English. Where I went to grad school people did dismiss one

[FairfieldLife] Re: The good things TM gave us

2007-10-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip TM gave us something. But that was the thing that was always free to us anyway, had we only known where to look. It's something that still waits for us, never demanding we pay a toll. It's there for the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh and Hitler

2007-10-15 Thread Vaj
On Oct 15, 2007, at 1:24 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you watch The Occult History of the Third Reich, the BBC documentary, esp. the episode The SS: Blood and the Soil, it would become more apparent what the significance is.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The good things TM gave us

2007-10-15 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: You have the right to say anything you want. When you say I am God I have the right to say Uh oh. I have my reasons. Or not. Most

[FairfieldLife] Re: The good things TM gave us

2007-10-15 Thread Richard J. Williams
Bhairitu wrote: Gods, BTW, are just personifications of the subtle fields that sages experienced in meditation. They were personified so that the ordinary person could conceptualize them. You got it backwards, once again, Mr. Bharat2. The Vedic Devas are the personifications of the forces

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