Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis's disassociation from TM org-

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 8/6/2007 12:35:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 If its true that MMY was having a sexual  relationship I don't know what 
the big deal is. We all know the story regarding  the PR committees of any 
organized man made body. What they say to the public is  never what is really 
going 
on anyhow. MMY is a handsome man. I would imagine  women would be attracted 
to him. As long as he's not making a habit of it why  not experience the shakti 
of a women. It might calm his very busy intellect  down. Men have been 
tooting the celibacy horn for ages and they all fail at it.  Even Guru Dev was 
not a 
life long celibate. NO-i'm not going to tell you where I  got that 
information because you will not believe me anyhow. Lsoma.

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com)   
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ]
  On Behalf Of shempmcgurk
 Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 11:02  AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis's disassociation from TM  
org-
snip
 If I was:
 
 1) getting a  payoff for silence about having sex with someone; and
 
 2)  telling people (such as Rick Archer) that I was having sex with 
 that  particular person
 
 ...then, yes, I would most certainly keep  IN A SAFETY DEPOSIT BOX 
 AND HAVE DUPLICATES MADE of such checks. That  would be, AT A 
 MINIMUM, what I would do.
 
 What would  a bunch of old check stubs prove? How would 
 they differ from the  check stubs thousands of other TM
 teachers would have if they had  saved them?

Somehow I doubt a hush-money check would come
with a  stub attached suitable for later paper-
trailing. You could always make a  photocopy
of the check itself before you deposited it,
but photocopies  can be faked.


 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Jerry Jarvis's disassociation from TM org-

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 8/6/2007 2:39:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 I've always wondered if Jerry Jarvis was still  alive. Is he? How old is 
he? 

 
 
 
Looking at all the message on Jerry Jarvis I am reminded of the local  
Peace organization (which I sometimes refer to as the Inertia  
organization) which mainly consists of a bunch of old fogies wanting to  
relive the 1960's (now that many are in their 60's). :-D

I met  Jerry once, a couple weeks after I learned TM. He was on a TV 
show I  worked on. He seemed shocked to have someone come over to him 
and greet  him with a Jai Guru Dev. He must have thought another TM 
nut.  :-)

It's too bad he hasn't moved on like many of us and found the good  stuff.

tomandcindytraynoratomandcindytraynora
 A former  Purusha friend informed me that he knew from first hand
 experience  that a monthly check was being sent to Jerry at least into
 the early  90's by one of the movements arms. TomT


  


 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] I'm friggin' fed up

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 8/6/2007 3:29:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 It would have been better if you didn't mention it  Rick. I'm also learning 
not to mention certain issues because some issues bring  out the worst in 
regards to what is factual and what is not. I can understand  your frustration. 
But hear me out- if Jennifer is telling the truth why is she  sharing her body 
with MMY. There are millions of men she can sleep with. Maybe  she did get 
paid and enjoyed the money. Woman are not always innocent. I  remember Jennifer 
Flowers on Larry King trying to put Bill Clinton down in her  book because he 
was having sex with him in the governors office in Arkansas  while Hillary was 
out in the lobby talking with someone. My question is the same  to Jennifer 
flowers- What the hell are you doing with Bill Clinton knowing that  his wife 
is 
nearby. For the most part I think highly of woman but pointing the  finger at 
men when your spreading your yoni to receive his lingam is a woman's  fault. 
If you don't want the car to enter the mansion then don't open up the  gate. 
Lsoma.

 
 
 
 
Jennifer is a  US lawyer. She is not at fault here. If anyone is, I am. She 
has never made  public statements about the whole thing; only spoken with 
friends and me, who  never met her face to face. I bring it up from time to 
time 
because FFL is a  group of people who are trying to make sense of MMY and the 
TMO. If these  allegations are true, then they are an extremely relevant part 
of 
the whole  picture and they raise questions that I have not as yet been able 
to answer.  Part of my bringing it up is that some of the ensuing discussions 
clarify my  understanding. I see the UFO issue as comparable. People discuss 
it at great  length even though the evidence is not substantial enough to 
satisfy many  skeptics, because if is real, then the implications for our 
planet 
and species  are huge. 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I'm friggin' fed up

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 8/6/2007 4:41:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 You can judge me all you want but some of  the comments you are making are 
male dominated energies. Try to make your  comments with some sensitivity. 
Bringing up my marriage and personal stuff  over FFL with anger against me is 
about as low as you have gotten. Stop  attacking and converse with more 
maturity. 
Lawyers should know better in  regards to appropriate behavior when dealing 
with anyone on such personal  matters. As far as male chauvinism- I am a 
devotee of the Goddess energy and  bow down to a black stature of Lakshmi. I 
love 
women and have always said they  are miles ahead of men. But please, leave my 
wife out of this. Personal  matters are mine. My soon to be x-wife loves me and 
thinks I am not what you  are saying about me. Try to get to know someone 
before you judge the person.  Lsoma.

 It would have been better if you didn't mention  it Rick. I'm 
 also learning not to mention certain issues because some  issues 
 bring out the worst in regards to what is factual and what is  not. 
 I can understand your frustration. But hear me out- if Jennifer  
 is telling the truth why is she sharing her body with MMY.  

Spoken like a true male chauvinist pig, Lou. I kinda
like you, but  you really reveal your ignorance of the
subject matter and your  insensitivity to people by
saying crap like this.

If you had  actually *known* any women (or men) who 
have had sex with their spiritual  teachers, you would
not be so facile and so...well...not be so facile and so..
that people are *under* when it comes to their spirit-
ual  teachers are *enormous*. Just think of all the
crazy things that TMers have  done -- against their
better judgment -- to avoid being thrown out of  the
TM movement. Well, what do you think is going to 
happen when one of  them is pressured to *fuck* the
person they've placed on a pedestal and who  they
consider nigh-unto-Godlike?

It's a *terrible* situation, IMO  for all concerned.
For the teachers, for the students, and for  everyone
who hears about it and has to try to resolve it in
their minds.  

But that doesn't mean that we shouldn't talk about it.
It's been  going on as long as there have *been* spirit-
ual teachers, and it will  *keep* going on as long as
they exist and people keep putting them up on  pedestals
and claiming that they can do no wrong. And the situation  
will never get any less ugly.

You *shame* yourself with the crap  you spouted in this
post, Lou. I'm ashamed for you just reading it.  Grow
a little compassion and understanding, eh? Just because
your wife  dumped you, that's no reason to take your
anger out on other  women.


  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I'm friggin' fed up

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 8/6/2007 4:54:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
 
 
 
From: FairfieldLife@ FairfieldLi FairfieldLife@WBRyahoogr FairfieldLife@ 
FairOn Behalf Of  TurquoiseB
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 3:39 PM
To:  FairfieldLife@  Fairfie  
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re:  I'm friggin' fed up

 
 
 
You *shame* yourself with the crap you spouted in this
post, Lou. I'm  ashamed for you just reading it. Grow
a little compassion and  understanding, eh? Just because
your wife dumped you, that's no reason to  take your
anger out on other women.


Also, Lou spoke as though this were happening  now. It happened in the late ‘
60’s and early ’70’s when the women were in  their late teens and early 
twenties and MMY was in his late 40’s and  50’s. 
 Regardless of my  ignorance of the subject, I would think attacking people 
on this forum is  inappropriate. Read the reactions Rick, if you think these 
reactions from  people are appropriate to FFL then I am losing respect for you 
and your forum.  Lsoma.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I'm friggin' fed up

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 8/6/2007 5:31:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
 
 
 
From: FairfieldLife@ FairfieldLi FairfieldLife@WBRyahoogr FairfieldLife@ 
FairOn Behalf Of  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:09  PM
To: FairfieldLife@ FairfieldLi Fa
Subject:  Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I'm friggin' fed up

 
 
 
 
 
In a message  dated 8/6/2007 4:54:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a message  

 
 
 
 
 Regardless of my ignorance of the  subject, I would think attacking people 
on this forum is inappropriate. Read  the reactions Rick, if you think these 
reactions from people are appropriate  to FFL then I am losing respect for you 
and your forum. Lsoma.








I don’t regard myself as attacking anyone.  Just trying to come to terms with 
a troubling subject. But discussions about  it here have seldom been 
fruitful. It’s too much of a mixed audience to  intelligently discuss such a 
subject. 
I didn't say you  specifically were attacking me. I asked you to read some of 
the reactions and  evaluate if these reactions are within the guidelines of 
your forum. I would  appreciate it if you would take me off of this forum or 
let me know how I can  get off of it. This way some of the nuclear reactors on 
the forum can  spill their toxic waste on someone else.  Lsoma.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hunting for Gurus...ha, ha.

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 8/3/2007 7:55:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Bravo The truth will set you free. I love  India but some of India 
needs help like America. Neil Young wrote in his song   Looking for a Leader 
- 
America is beautiful but she has an ugly side. We could  say this about every 
country and culture. Yes, its me again. Lsoma. I'm trying  to behave. I must 
still have some of those rusty engrams hanging around in me.  Googie. Googie.

 
 
 
I really enjoy this guy's show. Here he rants against atheists,  very
funny:

_http://www.youtube.http://wwwhttp://www.yo;WBRmode=reWBRse_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBkUWbFjdpgmode=relatedsearch=) 

---  In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ,  BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Reporter goes to India in  search of a Guru.
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] 12 Jyotir Lingas Link

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 8/2/2007 12:43:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Rick, it was great seeing you. I just got in from  the meeting. I did what 
you told me - I behaved myself. Very wonderful  group. I will visit again. You 
remind me of Charlie Lutes. Not the looks but the  energy of your soul. Now 
go to bed and tell your wife you love her and get off  of the computer. Lsoma.

 
 
 
 
 
_http://www.indiantehttp://wwwhttp://www._ 
(http://www.indiantemples.com/jyotir.html) 
 

This link gives some specific background info on  the 12 Jyotir Lingas in 
India that Maharishi referred to on Guru Purnimah, to  link thier power to 48 
Brahmananda Saraswati Nagrs (cities to be built) and  from thier to support 
peace 
and prosperity in the 192 countries of the world  for all time! 
Right.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the mantra

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 8/1/2007 1:41:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just what I want,  a mantra empowered by the shakti of
 willytext!

You might try  Nuck'n Futs After a few hundred reps it might give
you your answer! 
 It is not the mantra that is most important, the  way it is selected or the 
Puja. It is the energy behind these things.  Nuck'n  Futs will not work if 
your in a Nuck'n Futs energy additude. Love and  Light.

 
 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
  In a message dated 8/1/2007 1:12:42 P.M. Eastern
   Daylight Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
I teach a technique called AstroVedic Meditation 
  for  $150.00. A mantra is 
  selected from the birth information. It can  be
  taught over the phone also. A 
  follow up  consultation a week later to answer
  further questions and a CD  for 
  listening in the first week to make sure the
   practice is going well. It 
  differs from TM because the mantra is  selected from
  the birth information. TM 
  teachers  are not astrologically trained. There is no
  need for a puja so  the 
  religious part of the practice is left solely up to
   the person who is learning. 
  For more information on me go  to _Astrological
  Varieties_ 
  (_http://www.yogavisihttp://www.y_ (http://www.yogavisionaries.com/) )  I 
can be reached
  at 641-469-3521 if you have interest and need  
  more questions asked. 
  
  
   
  
  Bhairitu wrote:
   Of course you  can get good meditation techniques 
  for less 
than that these days.
  
  Which meditation  techniques do you consider to be
  good? Are
  they easy  and simple to learn? Can they help a
  person learn
  to  transcend? Do they include free checking for
  life? And, 
   where would a person get them these days and where
  would  
  all the money go? Can you be specific?
  
   At my age, I'm not much interested in left-handed 
   basket-weaving or memorizing a bunch of non-sense 
   syllables
  or sitting in a locked-leg position concentrating  on
  the tip 
  of my nose. It costs a lot of money to  take a Tony
  Robbins
  course or get audited by a  Scientologist.
  
  It costs over $1500 just to take a  one day computer
  course 
  these days. The average  tuition for university is 
  over
  $15,000 per  semester. Cigarettes or cable TV could
  cost 
  a  person thousands of dollars a year. So, learning 
  TM to be able  to relax for $2,500 seems like a
  bargain to 
  me, as  long as you don't turn it into a guru cult
  like you 
   and some others did.
  
  
  
   
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the mantra

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 8/2/2007 1:27:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
snip
 
 You might try Nuck'n Futs After a few hundred reps  it might give
 you your answer! 
  It is not the mantra that  is most important, the way it is
selected or the 
 Puja. It is the  energy behind these things.  Nuck'n Futs will not
work if 
 your  in a Nuck'n Futs energy attitude. Love and Light.

Speaking of Nuck'n  Futs, MMY has only 29 days left to fulfill your
prediction right? The  countdown begins Lou! 
 Yes. It was Saint Anthony that predicted MMY  passing over in July or 
August. I told Saint Anthony that i was getting  November 21st or 22nd of 2007. 
He 
said  
 Well your just a few months off. I see him passing  over in July or August 
due to problems with the chest and lungs area. So- if  he does not pass over 
in the next 29 days Saint Anthony needs a tune up. If he  doesn't pass away on 
November 21st or 22nd I need a tune up. So many people  have tried to predict 
MMY death and MMY seems to outlast everyone.  
Go to Maharishichannel.org and click on the 24 hour  puja for Guru Dev. You 
can see that Maharishi's skin is smooth and he looks  great for his age with 
all of his hard work but he does feel like he is in and  out at this time in 
preparation for exiting out of this world.  
All of the bottles of what appears to be perfume and  elephant figures, 
crystal castle in the middle surrounded by flags in gold  fixtures. Regardless 
of 
how enlightened everyone thinks he is he will have to  leave these toys of 
structure behind. Life's a bitch. JGD Love and  Light.

 
  
  --- Lsoma@  wrote:
  
   
   In a message dated  8/1/2007 1:12:42 P.M. Eastern
   Daylight Time, 
willytex@ writes:
   
I teach a  technique called AstroVedic Meditation 
   for $150.00. A  mantra is 
   selected from the birth information. It can  be
   taught over the phone also. A 
   follow  up consultation a week later to answer
   further questions and  a CD for 
   listening in the first week to make sure  the
   practice is going well. It 
   differs  from TM because the mantra is selected from
   the birth  information. TM 
   teachers are not astrologically trained.  There is no
   need for a puja so the 
religious part of the practice is left solely up to
   the  person who is learning. 
   For more information on me go to  _Astrological
   Varieties_ 
   (__http://www.yogavisihttp://www.ht_ (http://www.yogavisihttp://www.y_) 
(_http://www.yogavisihttp://www.y_ (http://www.yogavisionaries.com/) )  ) I 
 can be reached
   at 641-469-3521 if you have  interest and need 
   more questions asked. 

   
   
   
Bhairitu wrote:
Of course you can get good meditation  techniques 
   for less 
than that these  days.
   
   Which meditation techniques do  you consider to be
   good? Are
   they easy and  simple to learn? Can they help a
   person learn
to transcend? Do they include free checking for
   life?  And, 
   where would a person get them these days and  where
   would 
   all the money go? Can you be  specific?
   
   At my age, I'm not much  interested in left-handed 
   basket-weaving or memorizing a  bunch of non-sense 
   syllables
   or sitting  in a locked-leg position concentrating on
   the tip 
of my nose. It costs a lot of money to take a Tony
Robbins
   course or get audited by a Scientologist.

   It costs over $1500 just to take a one day  computer
   course 
   these days. The average  tuition for university is 
   over
   $15,000  per semester. Cigarettes or cable TV could
   cost 
a person thousands of dollars a year. So, learning 
TM to be able to relax for $2,500 seems like a
   bargain  to 
   me, as long as you don't turn it into a guru  cult
   like you 
   and some others  did.
   
   
   

   
   
   

   
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the mantra

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In a message dated 8/2/2007 3:18:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
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,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Go to Maharishichannel. Go to Maharishichannel.WBRorg and clic
 Guru Dev. You can see that Maharishi's skin is smooth  and he
 looks great for his age with all of his hard work

He  does look pretty good. Sits up straight, his
hands are steady as a rock,  appears to know
exactly what he's doing. I have the feeling he
can  hardly see, though.

but he does feel like he is in and out at this time  in 
 preparation for exiting out of this world.

He does look a  bit ethereal, as if his focus is
completely internal. 
 And there has always been something about MMY  energy that helps us to 
understand what it means to commit to our practice. He  looks as one pointed 
about 
his devotion to Guru Deva as he was when the  headlights shinned on Guru 
Deva's face when he first knew this was his  teacher. Even though there is that 
attachment that he has, he made a choice  and that choice of commitment stood 
the test of time. His expression of wisdom  and that royal energy of Leo (he 
has 
his Moon in Leo) is so magnetic. And if  he goes, when he wants to go he has 
left behind teachers who will continue the  journey regardless of weather they 
are in his organization or not.  Lsoma.


 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the mantra

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 8/2/2007 5:16:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Yes. And there is the answer for expansion to the  next level. As long as 
MMY is alive and provides the entertainment then things  will never expand. As 
hard as it is for me to see him go (it is going to be very  hard for me as I 
have also lost my first and only marriage recently of 15  years), the show must 
go on. The present moment is all I have left of every  second, of every 
minute, ect. The true Guru is the fullness of silence that  started this whole 
journey. Even after he is gone I'm sure the entertainment  will continue but 
that 
will die out. Until then I will cry, laugh, sing, cook,  be bored and someday 
will come to completely except that its all just a feeling.  Feelings change 
all of the time. The only thing that is not changing is the  silence in the 
present moment. Humanity is coming to realize it is the only  thing left that 
is 
not going wrong in there lives. Just simplicity in the  present moment. That 
is the message I heard last night at the Wednesday satsang  meeting here in 
Fairfield. Thank you Rick Archer for giving me that extra nudge  to 
participate. 
Lsoma.

 
 
 
Personally I hope he never dies. He is much more entertaining to  me
while living. I think the prediction business is ethically flawed  but
I'm happy to see you standing behind your own predictions. Let's  hope
you are wrong and in my happiness for MMY not dying I forget to be  too
much of a dick about your prediction!

  Yes. It was  Saint Anthony that predicted MMY passing over in July or 
 August. I  told Saint Anthony that i was getting November 21st or
22nd of 2007. He  
 said 
  Well your just a few months off. I see him passing  over in July
or August 
 due to problems with the chest and lungs  area. So- if he does not
pass over 
 in the next 29 days Saint  Anthony needs a tune up. If he doesn't
pass away on 
 November 21st  or 22nd I need a tune up. So many people have tried
to predict 
 MMY  death and MMY seems to outlast everyone. 
 Go to  Maharishichannel. Go to  Maharishichannel.WBRorg and c
Dev. You  
 can see that Maharishi's skin is smooth and he looks great for  his
age with 
 all of his hard work but he does feel like he is in  and out at this
time in 
 preparation for exiting out of this world.  
 All of the bottles of what appears to be perfume and elephant  figures, 
 crystal castle in the middle surrounded by flags in gold  fixtures.
Regardless of 
 how enlightened everyone thinks he is he  will have to leave these
toys of 
 structure behind. Life's a bitch.  JGD Love and Light.
 
  

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,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 In a message dated 8/2/2007 1:27:37  P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
 curtisdeltablues@ curtisdelt
  
 
 
 
 snip
  
  You might  try Nuck'n Futs After a few hundred reps it might give
  you your  answer! 
   It is not the mantra that is most important, the  way it is
 selected or the 
  Puja. It is the energy behind  these things.  Nuck'n Futs will not
 work if 
  your in a  Nuck'n Futs energy attitude. Love and Light.
 
 Speaking of  Nuck'n Futs, MMY has only 29 days left to fulfill your
 prediction  right? The countdown begins Lou! 
  Yes. It was Saint Anthony that  predicted MMY passing over in July or 
 August. I told Saint Anthony  that i was getting November 21st or
22nd of 2007. He 
 said 
   Well your just a few months off. I see him passing over in July
or  August 
 due to problems with the chest and lungs area. So- if he does  not
pass over 
 in the next 29 days Saint Anthony needs a tune up.  If he doesn't
pass away on 
 November 21st or 22nd I need a tune up.  So many people have tried
to predict 
 MMY death and MMY seems to  outlast everyone. 
 Go to Maharishichannel. Go to Maharishichannel.WBRorg and click on 
Dev. You 
 can see that Maharishi's skin is  smooth and he looks great for his
age with 
 all of his hard work  but he does feel like he is in and out at this
time in 
 preparation  for exiting out of this world. 
 All of the bottles of what appears to  be perfume and elephant figures, 
 crystal castle in the middle  surrounded by flags in gold fixtures.
Regardless of 
 how  enlightened everyone thinks he is he will have to leave these
toys of  
 structure behind. Life's a bitch. JGD Love and Light.
  
  
   
   --- Lsoma@ wrote:


In a message dated  8/1/2007 1:12:42 P.M. Eastern
Daylight Time, 
 willytex@ writes:

  I teach a technique called AstroVedic Meditation 
 for $150.00. A mantra is 
selected from the birth  information. It can be
taught over the phone also. A  
follow up consultation a week later to answer
 further questions and a CD for 
 listening in the first week to make sure the
practice  is going well. It 
differs from TM because the mantra  is selected from
the birth information. TM 
 teachers

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the mantra

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 8/1/2007 1:12:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 I teach a technique called AstroVedic Meditation  for $150.00. A mantra is 
selected from the birth information. It can be taught  over the phone also. A 
follow up consultation a week later to answer further  questions and a CD for 
listening in the first week to make sure the practice is  going well. It 
differs from TM because the mantra is selected from the birth  information. TM 
teachers are not astrologically trained. There is no need for a  puja so the 
religious part of the practice is left solely up to the person who  is 
learning. 
For more information on me go to _Astrological Varieties_ 
(http://www.yogavisionaries.com/)  I can be  reached at 641-469-3521 if you 
have interest and need 
more questions asked. 

 
 
 
Bhairitu wrote:
 Of course you can get good meditation techniques  for less 
 than that these days.

Which meditation techniques  do you consider to be good? Are
they easy and simple to learn? Can they  help a person learn
to transcend? Do they include free checking for life?  And, 
where would a person get them these days and where would 
all the  money go? Can you be specific?

At my age, I'm not much interested in  left-handed 
basket-weaving or memorizing a bunch of non-sense  syllables
or sitting in a locked-leg position concentrating on the tip  
of my nose. It costs a lot of money to take a Tony Robbins
course or  get audited by a Scientologist.

It costs over $1500 just to take a one  day computer course 
these days. The average tuition for university is  over
$15,000 per semester. Cigarettes or cable TV could cost 
a person  thousands of dollars a year. So, learning 
TM to be able to relax for  $2,500 seems like a bargain to 
me, as long as you don't turn it into a  guru cult like you 
and some others did.


 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on Fox TV

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In a message dated 8/1/2007 12:19:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Amma is a huge blessing. Even the reporters on Fox  news by the end of this 
report where moved by her and her followers generosity.  What a wonderful 
break from all of the negative news reports. And the million  dollars to the 
Katrina victims in America is so wonderful. Thanks for sharing  this with us 
Rick. 
Lsoma.

 
 
 
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,  Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 HYPERLINK

_http://www.youtube.http://wwwhttp://www.yo_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0kWVzrLQb4) 
_http://www.youtube.http://wwwhtt_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-) 
  0kWVzrLQb4

Very nice report. My wife and I went to see Amma yesterday  here in
Rio. There was a huge crowd of about 3,000. The atmosphere was  very
'at home'. My wife and I are both TMers and really enjoyed getting  a
hug from Amma.


 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the mantra

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 8/1/2007 1:30:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Googie, Googie. JGD

 
 
 
Just what I want, a mantra empowered by the shakti  of
willytext!

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  wrote:

 
 In  a message dated 8/1/2007 1:12:42 P.M. Eastern
 Daylight Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  writes:
  
  I teach a technique called AstroVedic Meditation 
 for  $150.00. A mantra is 
 selected from the birth information. It can  be
 taught over the phone also. A 
 follow up consultation a  week later to answer
 further questions and a CD for 
 listening  in the first week to make sure the
 practice is going well. It 
  differs from TM because the mantra is selected from
 the birth  information. TM 
 teachers are not astrologically trained. There is  no
 need for a puja so the 
 religious part of the practice is  left solely up to
 the person who is learning. 
 For more  information on me go to _Astrological
 Varieties_ 
 (_http://www.yogavisihttp://www.y_ (http://www.yogavisionaries.com/) )  I 
can be reached
 at 641-469-3521 if you have interest and need  
 more questions asked. 
 
 
 
 
  Bhairitu wrote:
  Of course you can get good meditation techniques  
 for less 
  than that these days.
 
  Which meditation techniques do you consider to be
 good? Are
  they easy and simple to learn? Can they help a
 person learn
 to  transcend? Do they include free checking for
 life? And, 
 where  would a person get them these days and where
 would 
 all the  money go? Can you be specific?
 
 At my age, I'm not much  interested in left-handed 
 basket-weaving or memorizing a bunch of  non-sense 
 syllables
 or sitting in a locked-leg position  concentrating on
 the tip 
 of my nose. It costs a lot of money  to take a Tony
 Robbins
 course or get audited by a  Scientologist.
 
 It costs over $1500 just to take a one day  computer
 course 
 these days. The average tuition for  university is 
 over
 $15,000 per semester. Cigarettes or cable  TV could
 cost 
 a person thousands of dollars a year. So,  learning 
 TM to be able to relax for $2,500 seems like a
  bargain to 
 me, as long as you don't turn it into a guru cult
  like you 
 and some others did.
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Meditators predict Dow 17,000...

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 7/31/2007 12:27:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the Maharishi effect but the kinds  of 
stories on the news these last few days is not a reflection of coherence. I'm  
a 
participant in the America Invincible course since I am a resident of  
Fairfield and do my program everyday-twice a day over the last 29 years. The  
story 
of a doctors family being
murdered in Connecticut a couple of days ago- my home state that I grew up  
in- shows we are going to need a much larger group. I think MMY should be  
thinking of having at least 1,000 in every state of America. That would be  
50,000 
people. John Hagelin, Bevan and MMY are dreaming if they think all of the  
negativity is going to go away with
just 2,500 sidhas. John Hagelin needs a reality adjustment and I am  
predicting as a visionary that the adjustment will manifest within the next six 
 
months. I'm not saying the TMO will change. I'm just saying their will be an  
adjustment. 
If the TMO changed it would be in accordance with infinite flexibility  
which is a characteristic of the Unified Field Theory. John Haglin can become  
the master scientist of this century but he needs to practice what he preaches. 
 
His conservative approach has isolated thousands of meditators and Sidha's. 
He  lacks infinite flexibility. My advise-
less starch in the shirt and a more relaxed approach to guidelines for  
America Invincibility Lsoma. 

 
 
 
So the dollar is going to fall even further? Most people could have  
guessed that. Are they going to take credit for the fall of the dollar  
too? That's why the DJIA is so high. It takes more dollars for the  
stocks because the dollar is worth less. Too bad these people aren't  
enlightened or at least knowledgeable about economics.

Robert  Gimbel wrote:
 Meditators predict Dow 17,000, near U.S. utopia By  Ayesha Rascoe 
 Mon Jul 30, 9:20 AM ET
 


  NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. stocks had a tough week with the Dow Jones 
  Industrial Average suffering its worst one-week point drop in five 
  years, but a group of meditators promise their good vibrations will 
  send the index past 17,000 within a year. 

  ADVERTISEMENT
 
 A group called the Invincible America Assembly  made that claim and 
 more on Friday, insisting they have America's  prosperity under 
 control and their positive vibes will bring fewer  hurricanes and 
 better U.S.-North Korean relations.

  Through group transcendental meditation the assembly -- which has 
  1,800 people meditating daily in Iowa since it was formed in July 
  2006 -- releases harmonious waves which benefit all aspects of U.S. 
  life, spokesman Bob Roth told Reuters.

 And the group's leader,  John Hagelin, said when that number reaches 
 2,500 within the next 12  months, America will see a major drop in 
 crime and the virtual  elimination of all major social and political 
 woes.

  Asked what it would take to achieve world peace, Hagelin said such a 
  utopia would need 8,000 meditators.

 The group takes credit  for, among other things: the Dow Jones 
 Industrial Average reaching a  record high of 14,022 last week, 
 unemployment rates falling to a  six-year low at 4.5 percent, and 
 North Korea shutting down its  nuclear reactor.

 It operates two facilities in Iowa, where  followers practice several 
 hours of transcendental meditation each  day.

 This is not praying for peace, this is not sending out  positive 
 thoughts for peace, Roth said. This is diving deep into  one's own 
 consciousness. 

 Hagelin compared the  Assembly's use of transcendental meditation to 
 the invention of  electricity and other advances.

 We have control over things  we didn't have control over before. 
 That's the progress of science,  Hagelin said.

 And while most people may be skeptical of the  ability of meditation 
 to bring such change, Roth said the Assembly  was not going to try to 
 change people's opinions.

  We're not trying to convince anyone of anything, Roth said. We're 
  just doing it.



 


 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 7/31/2007 3:04:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
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,  [EMAIL PROTECTED],  MDi

 
 In a message dated 7/31/07  11:43:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
 What?! They don't want to take credit for the success the
  surge is starting to show?
 
 What surge success? I  suspect you're referring to Bush's dumbass 
 war? There is no success  there. Keep smokin' the ganga.
 
 Try reading the news some  time.

snicker

The point of the surge was to give the  Iraqi government
breathing room to make some political progress. 
 We have already done a few surges over the last 4  years and some. 
September and October look like the interesting months in  evaluating yet 
another 
surge. I'm sure Bush is thinking of something else to  save his party. 

Parliament has just adjourned for the month of  August,
having accomplished ZILCH.

That was in the news, MDixon. I  guess you must have
missed it.


 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators predict Dow 17,000...

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 8/1/2007 12:06:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
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,  [EMAIL PROTECTED],  MDi

 
 In a message dated 7/31/07  2:04:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
 
 point of the surge was to give the Iraqi government
  breathing room to make some political progress.
 
 Parliament  has just adjourned for the month of August,
 having accomplished  ZILCH.
 
 That was in the news, MDixon. I guess you must  have
 missed it.
 
 
 
 
 
  Nope didn't miss a thing. No political compromises yet but 60 
pieces of  
 legislation passed. Killings, executions and bombings are down.  
Sunnis are 
 turning on Al Qaeda and working with Coalition forces  for a 
change. The Democrats 
 have a lot invested in the failure of  the surge. If it works they 
look very 
 bad.

It is such a  cynical view from both sides to use the death of men, 
women and children  as a political pawn to score points. really 
sickening and cold-hearted.  Whether the surge works or not, I just 
want this damned war to be over  soon, and for us as a country to 
recognize that it has solved  nothing.:-) 
 I couldn't agree more with the above paragraph.  Could you imagine our 
children going to school in the morning hoping they come  home alive by the end 
of 
the day. Americans have no idea just how bad it is.  Something has got to 
give by the end of the Fall season in Iraq or we need to  get out of there el 
pronto.


 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Tower

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 7/30/2007 2:26:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 WOW. 3.5 Million dollars! What happened to the inner heart of our  
movement. Many people starving in the world could use a meal today. Bevan will  
always get what he wants. His own idea and honor of what he believes to be MMY  
thoughts and feelings. Maybe they are MMY thoghts and feelings.But the 
question  remains-Will Bevan in the long run end up alone with his tower of 
honor and 
the  scientifec research without anyone to follow his ideas and beliefs one 
to two  years from now? Lsoma.

 
 
 
The MUM tower is a guard shack compared to the $3.5 mil tower Bevan  
wants to build in his Aussie hometown:

_http://tinyurl.http://tin_ (http://tinyurl.com/32ebrd) 

Adelaide  Now 

$3.5m city tower
July 30, 2007 02:15am
A MULTI-storey tower  of knowledge may be built at 190 Greenhill Rd 
in honour of Dr Bevan  Morris, a leader of the Transcendental 
Meditation movement.

His  mother, Mrs Dulcie Morris, 94, will turn the sod of what could be 
a tower  without residents, pending Unley Council consent. No one will 
live in the  tower and it will be a permanent exhibition of the 
scientific research on  the Maharishi Transcendental Meditation 
program. 

David Seymour,  director of Maharishi's Global Administration through 
Natural Law, said it  would not be a temple. 

Dr Morris is now the prime minister of the  Global Country of World 
Peace. It is estimated the tower would cost about  $3.5 million. 

The Iowa, U.S.-based movement has made sketches of the  tower and had 
preliminary discussions with the council. We are confident  enough to 
hold a sod-turning ceremony, Mr Seymour said. 

Unley  Council mayor Richard Thorne said his meeting with Mr Seymour 
was to  discuss preliminary plans.

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 In a message dated 7/28/07  8:49:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   writes:
 
   Why a tower? To me that is just a sign of  extreme egoism.
  
  
  the TMO's  Tombstone
 
 Lol
 They had a funky looking gazebo  between the domes years ago. It 
 didn't do shit. They tore it down.  This won't do shit either.
 
 
 
 
 Because  Oral Roberts University has one.
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY Tower

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 7/27/2007 5:58:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 I drive by the tower everyday when I do my evening program. I'm amazed  
that they have got so much of it built since it was almost nothing last week. 
It  
is my understanding that the Pundits will chant on Guru Purnama at the tower. 
 Does anybody know what time it will be? I arrived in Fairfield IA on July 
10th  and have signed a year lease. There are many things happening in town. I 
went to  an open mike at a small Paradiso Cafe and attended an astrology class  
Thursday night where around 15 people analyzed my chart. The organic buffet 
at  the MUM campus is very good. Even though I am not allowed in the dome I  
participate in my own way. I even enjoy the pizza buffet in town since I am  
Italian and grew up with pasta and pizza. As far as all of the Ego that goes  
into the celebration of the tower and the materials that it is built out of I'm 
 
happy
 I don't have to pay anything to have it built. When I drive by I  wonder how 
much it costs. Maybe steel
is cheaper than natural wood. I have no idea. We all know the movement has  
its own way of doing things to keep their image western and conservative. I'm  
just happy to be here and experiencing the deep silence that is offered to us  
through the efforts of everyone in Vedic City, MUM and the town of Fairfield. 
I  feel that Bevan, Tony Nader and John Haglin know that MMY is on his last 
leg and  are offering the Tower of Invincibility to him for all he has done. 
There is a  slight chance he will appear here. A slight chance. I'm not 
predicting that he  will be here. I just feel he could surprise everyone. If he 
doesn't come then  the only way MUM will ever see him again would be on the 
space 
ship he will ride  in after his passing over. That would take some of the air 
out of their  conservative balloon. Love and Light Lsoma.

 
 
 
suziezuzie wrote:
 The MMY Tower now going up is made of steel. Is  this vastu correct? 
 Steel presents an electro magnectic problem which  I know MMY is 
 concerned about. 


 
Why a  tower? To me that is just a sign of extreme egoism.


 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Swami G comment about TM and Kundalini from my post

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 7/23/2007 12:58:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 I love it when teachers or those practicing TM or any other form of  
meditation with a bija mantra call it dangerous. What a joke. Let me tell you  
what 
is dangerous: A terrorist kidnapping someone and beheading them. A child  
kidnapped in Mexico who is wondering if they will ever see there parents again  
alive. A women who is rapped in Darfur and had her arm cut off in the process. 
I 
 think you get my point. Meditation is not dangerous if you use common sense. 
 Very few meditators have problems. For those who are ungrounded with the use 
of  bija mantras, they should be walking with the mantra when eyes are open.  
Teachers who scare the shit out of people by telling them its dangerous to  
meditate with a bija mantra are just wanting others to follow them. India is  
getting a reputation for Gurus who are competing with each other in regards to  
who's got the best techniques or the magic to bring enlightenment to others 
in  the quickest way possible. Be simple and listen but don't take everything 
to be  the absolute truth. Soma. 

 
 
 
rmy108 wrote:
 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ,  Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 rmy108  wrote:
 
 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ,  Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  
 Ron wrote:
 
  
 Namaste and Great Day  



  G yes he speaks about kundalini being a necessary thing  
 to awaken - but to awaken it without having competent  ongoing 
 guidance is to invite disaster. TM practices  could possibly 
 ignite it but then what ? perhaps this  is why there have been 
 so many casualties in TM. Once  ignited one Has to have an 
 Understanding of just what  Kundalini activation is geared to 
 do. When it is  guided in a proper direction it may be ones 
 greatest  Blessing. When not it can be like entering the 
  
 
 phenomena 
  
 
 of greater delusion. A stabalizing  point of Clarity has to be 
 in place to keep things  going forward to Realization without 
 getting lost in  the maze of experiences. 

 Love   Light 
 0 
  
 
 The problem with TM is that  using the bij mantras the way it 
 
 does 
  
 
 
 is a  
 
 
 bit dangerous. Sure  they are powerful used that way but for a 
  
 
 certain 
  
 
 percentage of the population disastrous.  They are essentially 
 considered agni mantras which can be  too powerful for the 
 
 public 
  
 
 
 to use  
 
 
 and must be used under  the close guidance of a guru. Now I 
 
 don't  
 
 
 
 want  
 
 
 to strike fear into  anybody for if you've been using TM mantras 
  
 
 for 
 
  
 years with pleasant results then fine. I just recall a  certain 
 percentage of people who I checked with TM who  were have some 
 
 
  pretty 
 
 
 extreme  difficulties as well as folks who had some really bad 
  
 
 roughness 
  
 
 on my TTC and Sidhis course. That's why  in my new tradition we 
 
  
 don't 
 
 
  give such mantras but instead Shiva and Shanti mantras.
  
 
 And what tradition/guru is  that?
 
 
 Kali Sadhaka Gharana,  Swami Abhayanand.

 
 How do I find info  about this gharana?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Swami G comment about TM and Kundalini from my post

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 7/23/2007 2:27:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  wrote:
 
 In a  message dated 7/23/2007 12:58:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   writes:
 
 
 I love it when teachers or those  practicing TM or any other form of 
 
 meditation with a  bija mantra call it dangerous. What a joke. Let me tell 
you what 
 is  dangerous: A terrorist kidnapping someone and beheading them. A child 
  kidnapped in Mexico who is wondering if they will ever see there parents 
again  
 alive. A women who is rapped in Darfur and had her arm cut off in the  
process. I 
 think you get my point. Meditation is not dangerous if you  use common 
sense. 
 Very few meditators have problems. For those who  are ungrounded with the 
use 
 of bija mantras, they should be walking  with the mantra when eyes are 
open. 
 Teachers who scare the shit out  of people by telling them its dangerous to 
 meditate with a bija  mantra are just wanting others to follow them. India 
is 
 getting a  reputation for Gurus who are competing with each other in 
regards to 
  who's got the best techniques or the magic to bring enlightenment to 
others  
 in the quickest way possible. 

 Be simple and listen but  don't take everything 
 to be the absolute truth. Soma. 
 
Is  this what the Pleiadians taught you, Lou? :-D 
Be mindless and an obedient  sheep. Did they also teach you how to be a 
meditation teacher? Did they  teach you mantra shastra? What TTC was it 
you were on? How many people  have you taught? Inquiring minds want to 
know. 
Inquiring minds want to know me and then rat on me to the TMO. As far  as 
what I've been taught-That refined intellectualism which is rampant on FFL  and 
in the TMO  is nothing compared to a giving heart. You can study all  of the 
Vedas you want and have a PHD in accumulating information but it does  not mean 
you are more enlightened then the person who is taking your order at  a local 
Pizza place. I did not need to take TTC because I am not a follower.  Mantras 
are a free expression of the language of nature. Nobody owns them.  They were 
around long before MMY ever appeared and it was the Pleidians who  first 
introduced them to this planet. Since I am a Pleiadian from the sixth  
dimension I 
don't need to take courses on a planet that I've outgrown a long  time ago. I 
certainly don't need anyone's approval as I am not in a  competition race for 
being anymore enlightened than anyone else. It is in the  giving that makes 
you what you are. Our greatest example in the Holy Tradition  was Trotocharya. 
I hope I spelled his name correctly. Love and Light  ...Lou.


 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy needs to learn to become a subserviant female....

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 7/5/2007 1:03:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 

 Let's see how many more clowns are intimidated by  Judy.

My post had nothing to do with Judy but let me break it down for  you
if you are riding in the short bus:

Borat is a character created  by Sasha Cohen to expose people's
irrational prejudices about women, and  ethnic groups. By playing an
over the line personality he is using satire.  

I hope that helps you understand my post better. Not so much?  Ok
here we go, by making fun of people who believe that women  are
inferior I am inviting the reader to join me in mutual respect  for
women and not hold the chauvinistic views of the character Borat.  
Still don't get it? Let's try this: 

Women = Good
Mam making fun  of women's intelligence = bad

I hope this has been helpful. 

---  In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ,  do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ,  curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
  --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ,  BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
  
   Mainly  because, according to Prabhupad, they have smaller brains!
   A  womans brain is only 36 ounces research shows, compared to  64
ounces
   for a man, 
  
  Shaquia,  I am a Borat. Our government scientists in Kazakhstan have
  proved  this as well. But they can still make good wives if they have
   minimum of one year plow experience. They can also be used for sexy
   time (but not by force) and can make romance on her stumish (thats  a
  nice, you like?) Plus always to keep her in clean cage because  we are
  civilized people but not to feed her so much that she is  strong enough
  to run away. Yagamesh, Borat
 
  
 Let's see how many more clowns are intimidated by Judy. 
 Don't let size fool you. A small brain can house more quality of  spirit in 
it. Woman are less violent than men and more compassionate. This is  coming 
from a man who looks at recorded history and see's the insanity of  man's 
larger brain which creates wars and rapes women.  Lsoma.



 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Groups of FF, A Directory

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 7/2/2007 4:15:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 In a message dated 7/1/2007 4:20:17  P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  
  Fairfieild is the second wave of expansion and flexibility in  
regards to 
 different teachings and a home for those who have  tried so hard to 
work with 
 the TMO but were rejected because of a  need to control other 
people's spiritual 
 evolution. Fairfield  will continue to be an ever expanding vision 
of what 
 MMY could  have had if he was more open minded. I believe Bevan 
Morris is also  
 responsible for the very closed minded approach to India's  
philosophies. Many 
 meditators have walked away feeling forgotten  because of the narrow 
focus of 
 recruiting more Sidha's. The quick  fix mentality for world peace 
has 
 backfired on the TMO and all  they have left is MMY. The question 
comes soon. WHAT 
 WILL THEY DO  WITHOUT HIM? I think the TMO gets more
 conservative and hundreds if  not thousands move more in the 
direction of 
 Fairfield Iowa  (downtown) and less
 interested in MUM or Vedic City. Jai Guru Deva.  Lsoma.

I doubdt very much that MIU or Vedic City will be found in  Fairfield 
in the future.  
I did not say that MUM or Vedic City would be found in  Fairfield. I said 
that many 
people will gravitate towards the town of Fairfield  from MUM or Vedic City 
because MMY is not going to be around anymore by the  end of August 2007 and 
the TMO will become more conservative and less  comfortable for those who 
already have one foot out the door. That Fairfield  (town) will continue to 
expand 
rather than contract. Lsoma. 
The town will be left to itself and the anarchists who 
will be more  than happy to have Domes as partyplaces, if it is not 
torn down - which is  my prediction. I'm sure Curtis will be more than 
happy to arrange the  first rudraksha on condom party there 
convinced that that would be a  sign that 200% of life finally is 
achieved. 

The first sign of  Fairfields future came when Maharishi move 
MD/Purusha out. That they are  now back, sort of, is only temporarily.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Groups of FF, A Directory

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 7/2/2007 10:12:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I doubdt very  much that MIU or Vedic City will be found in Fairfield 
 in the future.  The town will be left to itself and the anarchists who 
 will be more  than happy to have Domes as partyplaces, if it is not 
 torn down -  which is my prediction. I'm sure Curtis will be more than 
 happy to  arrange the first rudraksha on condom party there 
 convinced that  that would be a sign that 200% of life finally is 
 achieved. 
  
 The first sign of Fairfields future came when Maharishi move 
  MD/Purusha out. That they are now back, sort of, is only temporarily.

I  spent three hours yesterday, attending a yagya being performed by
~25 of  the Indian pandits over on the pandit campus in Vedic City, and
from  listening to Raja Wynne, VC is looking to expand even further.
Obviously,  the only constant in the relative world is change, but the
current trend in  FF/VC is expansion, not contraction.  
Yes. While MMY is alive it will continue to expand. But  after he is no 
longer in physical embodiment it will be hard for Mr. Raja  Wynne to keep the 
millionaires funding the project. Look for a decline of  interest by the summer 
of 
2008. If the TMO wants to move in the direction of  relaxing their guidelines 
then the organization would expand. The fact is SSRS  had 2.5 million people 
in India last year. Many of them who left MMY. I don't  see the TMO changing 
after MMY passes and the guidelines will get even more  conservative as Bevan 
Morris takes over. God help us.  Lsoma.


 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Groups of FF, A Directory

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 7/1/2007 4:20:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
 Fairfieild is the second wave of expansion and flexibility in regards  to 
different teachings and a home for those who have tried so hard to work with  
the TMO but were rejected because of a need to control other people's spiritual 
 evolution. Fairfield will continue to be an ever expanding vision of what 
MMY  could have had if he was more open minded. I believe Bevan Morris is also  
responsible for the very closed minded approach to India's philosophies. Many  
meditators have walked away feeling forgotten because of the narrow focus of  
recruiting more Sidha's. The quick fix mentality for world peace has 
backfired  on the TMO and all they have left is MMY. The question comes soon. 
WHAT 
WILL  THEY DO WITHOUT HIM? I think the TMO gets more
conservative and hundreds if not thousands move more in the direction of  
Fairfield Iowa (downtown) and less
interested in MUM or Vedic City. Jai Guru Deva. Lsoma.

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Makes it clear why  Maharishi wants the meditators out of Fairfield. 
 You call it rich I  call it a mess. It used to be full of finders, 
 now full of spiritual  shoppers and seekers. Sincerely hope The 
 Movement finds a new  location soon.

Ahh, welcome to Fairfield, Nablusos! It's good to see  another 
dedicated follower of Maharishi here. Before we give you your Dome  
badge, let's just check your file ... Hmmm. It says here you're a TM  
teacher, a representative of Maharishi and his knowledge, yet you've  
gone on record as recently as last week publically espousing the  
spiritual teachings of someone else Well, we're reasonable people  
here. Please obtain references from three Governors in good standing,  
and sign this paper disavowing all future support of this Benjamin  
Creme and his 'Maitreya', or...NO DOME FOR  YOU!

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Re: [FairfieldLife] TERRORISM IS BACK/PLUTO CONJUNCT THE GALACTIC CENTER

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 6/30/2007 5:10:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 

 About six months ago I started to discuss  Pluto conjunct the galactic 
center and the response was as usual sarcastic.  On today's news a terrorist 
attack was made at a Scottland airport and they  believe it is linked with the 
possible attacks in London that were caught.  President Bush has declared the 
state of emergency for Texas and Oklahoma as  the rainfall continues for 17 
days 
straight in Oklahoma. Lake Tahoe in  California has been experiencing a 
massive fire. AMERICA INVINCIBILITY IS  LOOKING LIKE A JOKE. MMY should be 
pulling 
in the over three hundred sidha's that have been told to leave the dome. We  
need all of the meditators and sidha's from ALL SPIRITUAL ORGANIZTIONS to be  
joining in the process of stabilizing world consciousness. The exact dates for 
 the Pluto conjunction are July 16 and 17th as well as its final conjunction 
on  October 28th. Therefore, the rest of this year is vulnerable to unstable  
energy that is trying to balance itself out. For more information on the  
summer months of 2007 and my personal feelings about the TMO go to 
_Astrological 
Varieties_ (http://www.yogavisionaries.com/)  and click on  Seasonal 
Newsletter summer of 2007. I will be making a residential move to  Fairfield 
by July 
10th and look forward to forming relationships with many of  the spiritual 
groups in Fairfield. I will be attending a yagya by SSRS on July  8th in PA. 
Love and Light. Jai Guru Dev. Jai Maha Lakshmi.  Lsoma.




 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] What Ann Coulter really said (unedited by Edwards)

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 6/28/2007 8:24:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Ann is saying that George Bush has united people. In today's news they  
found 20 beheaded bodies in Iraq with yet another bombing killing at least 20  
and wounding 50. So much for unification. She also says he tried to save social 
 
security. He has spent all of the social security money on Iraq. He has  been 
spending at least 1.5 Billion dollars a week in Iraq over a four year  
period. Ann Coulter should give up political commentaries and get a day job. 
Ann  
Coulter has become a conservative prostitute who flashes her sexy looks coupled 
 
with sarcastic intelligence that amounts to wasted time in comparison to MMY  
ideas about world peace and unification of humanity. Lsoma.

 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] What Ann Coulter really said (unedited by Edwards)

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 6/28/2007 11:46:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
 
In a message dated 6/28/07 7:24:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a messIn a messag

 
 
 
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Well well, that does change the context in what Ann said , doesn't it? I  was 
right when I thought it had something to do with what Bill Mahr had said  
earlier about Cheney should have died in a terrorist attack. Usually Ann has a  
way of taking outrageous things liberals say and turning it back on them to  
see how they like it, at which time they squeal like pigs. She used the same  
strategy by suggesting we conquer Islamic nations and convert them to  
Christianity.
 
Squeal like pigs!!! You sound like Ann. Maybe you should marry her  and try 
to calm her down since she sounds like a pig herself squealing for  attention. 
Lsoma.



 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ann Coulter on John Edwards' dead son

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 6/27/2007 3:27:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
 I remember seeing Ann for the first time on TV about five years ago.  Since 
then I have seen her several times on talk shows on every major network.  To 
me she has always been very heartless. Most women I know are not as heartless  
as she is. She is a young soul who thinks sarcasm is justified even when she 
is  saying very derogatory things about others. She laughs after each 
statement  showing she is just acting like a three year old. I think people who 
are 
buying  her books should stop doing so. She has very little political class and 
makes  women look less than when it comes to intelligence of any kind. Lsoma.

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Is it  ever appropriate to invoke a candidate's dead son in political 
  commentary?
 
 _http://youtube.http://youhttp://youtub_ 
(http://youtube.com/watch?v=6otjSCjgm48) 


When  you're possessed with evil, as Ann Coulter is, anything goes...
She's  getting more and more out of control;
Yesterday, appearing on  'Hardball'-
Chris Mathews, at the end of the interview with her said, I  can't get 
to the confessional fast enough, after this show... 
Coulter  spews pure garbage.
Also, black nighty half naked look, seems to turn on  the youngins'
She's just using her power in the wrong way, and has allowed  herself 
to go down a dark road.


 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] This post not approved by TM friends Yahoo group

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 6/26/2007 12:05:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 It is clear that MMY is admitting he is not enlightened since his  inner 
experience is so dependent on structures outside of himself. Don't get me  
wrong The man is incredible. He has changed my life and thousands of people  
around the world. But, this is another sales pitch for Vastu living. If this is 
 
what he said then CC is not even developed since he would be in total bliss  
consciousness 24 hours a day regardless of the house he is living in. 
Lsoma.
 
 
 
 
 
 
Hello to all,

Enlightenment means Liberation, no confinement what so  ever, and 
certainly nothing on the outside touches this. Actually,  the
Enlightened will 
tell you that there is no outside for all is One, no  duality.

If I may ask, who transcribed this? Is this for sure what  Maharishi 
said? If so, what is your take on this ? I just gave  mine.

Maybe those reading this can see the Universe offering a wake up  call?

Ron

Maryanne Lee-Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   wrote: 

Maharishi on Vastu

Global Confrence on Architecture,  17.5.07

MAHARISHI: ...I am reminded of a proverb `the taste of pudding is  in 
eating`, period. We can not describe what is indescribable. And what  
is indescribebable is the benefit of Vastu structured buildings -  
Sthapatya Ved buildings.

I am living in the Sthapatya Ved building  and what I feel is that the 
walls of the house, they don`t produce a cage  for me. I don`t feel I 
am 
living inside the walls. The walls are as  transparent as is the 
meaning of 
cosmic living. You don`t feel you are  cramped by the walls.

I have been throughout all my life, 40-50 years,  living wherever I 
went, living whosoever kept me as his guest. And always I  was feeling 
I am 
caged within these walls.

And ever since they  gave me this house to live in, I am not feeling 
restricted. This is cosmic  living...

...and follow my advise that throughout my life I have been  caged in, 
and ever since these 12-15 years I am here in this house (in  Vlodrop) 
my 
thinking is absolutely unrestricted.th

...I am  alone, I know myself - the walls, I am living within the walls 
but the walls  are transparent for me. That is the experience. I am 
very 
afraid to go  to any house. I never feel to go because I will be caged 
in - 
such  freedom, such abundance, such enormous authority over space and 
time.  
Such reality of living in cosmic magnitude. This is living in Vastu  
buildings...

...it is such a thing, it is beyond  speech...

...the law says the house should face the sun. Everyone knows  sun is 
the giver of health. The houses facing the sun, facing the east, are  
healthy. 

That`s all, simple. Morning sun, evening sun, enter the  door - it is 
healthy. Morning rays of the sun are healthy, they are healthy.  Just 
the orientation.th

...I have the experience of all these  80-90 years of life living in 
wrong places. But somehow through the grace of  Guru Dev, I never 
jolted from 
my purpose of life. The purpose of life  was to be fully enlightened. 
So 
that was inside, that was very  strong.

And I was not living very long in some place - 2 days in some  place, 
15 days in some place, one month somewhere, like that. But ever since  
I 
came to this house, the house never left me because it is the same  
thing if 
one begins to live one`s cosmic status one can`t leave one`s  Self, one 
can`t stoop down to one`s individual status...

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Please help me find a good astrologer

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 6/25/2007 1:57:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Go to _Astrological  Varieties_ (http://www.yogavisionaries.com/)  . Lou 
Valentino uses both Western and Vedic for his clients.

 
 
 
You should consult with Dr. Brendan Feeley who practices in the  
Washington DC area. You can google his name to find his website and  
email. He is primarily a vedic (jyotish) astrologer who also knows  
western astrology techniques.

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I need a good  astrologer, either Western or Jyotish. Someone who is 
skilled at 
  looking at two charts and seeing how the two people concerned fit  
together. 
 Does anyone have any suggestions? Eleven years ago I  had an excellent 
 reading from a guy called Colin Maxwell. Anyone know  him or where I 
could 
 contact him? Thanks in advance for any  suggestions.



 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's deathbed instructions to Maharishi . . .

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 6/4/2007 11:30:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Charlie Lutes said once at a lecture I attended that Maharishi was  told by 
Guru Dev on his death bed that the timing for this knowledge to be  shared 
with the world is now. That Maharishi should not worry about the  money-that he 
would be taken care of. I'm sure this was not the exact words.  Anyway, 
Maharishi sure did take care of his physical insecurities. I believe he  owns 
over 3 
billion dollars worth of real estate. AND THEY STILL CAN'T FIX THE  LEAK IN 
THE GOLDEN DOME. Jai Guru Dev. Lsoma.

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Due to continuous engagements in
 preaching and the management of the  Jyotishpeeth one thing sill
 remains to be completed and that is to  give a technique to family
 people, in general so that by sitting and  meditating for a few minutes
 in the morning and in the evening every  day, they might enjoy peace
 and happiness in their lives you have to  do this remaining work, I have
 given you everything. A son has to  complete his father's remaining
 work after him, so also a disciple  completes his guru's remaining work
 after him.
 
  Doesn't this seem to contradict MMY's own account of what happened
  after Guru Dev died and how the movement started? By his own account
  he sat in Uttar Kashi without any thoughts for two years until he had
  the thought to go South to Rameshwarum (Sp?) Even there he was
  innocently goaded into doing lectures. Given MMYs delight in telling
  the story of his meeting Guru Dev, I find the omission of the story of
  Guru Dev's instructions to be unlikely. I think Dr. Varma was just
  being creative here. I think if Guru Dev had given MMY this direct
  instruction we would have heard about it from him.

Your personal  opinions and $5.00 will get you a cup of coffee  at
Starbucks.


 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Spiritual bookstores as a metaphor for spiritual forums

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 5/31/2007 8:27:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 The information is enlightening. It speaks volumes in regards to  saying 
yes to every experience in life.
However, it is tough to live up to this in a capitalistic society where you  
are expected to pay your rent or mortgage on time. If your ideas don't sell 
then  how can you pay your bills. When I worked for Deepak Chorpra I saw his 
own 
 struggle with this. He is one of the best at selling ideas to the public 
that  make book sales improve in order to keep his contract with his publishers 
and a  working relationship with his agent. We have built a financial world  
around us which doesn't allow for spiritual development because  we depend so 
much on others buying our ideas. We become educated in  order to be better idea 
people so we can have financial freedom at the cost of  not surrendering our 
need for approval or just being in the moment of expression  rather than 
thinking how can I get something out of this for myself (little  mind) in order 
to 
survive comfortably in a physical world. 
 
And we could have the most valuable message for people on how to live a  
happier life but it could be completely ignored if it doesn't resonate with 
what  
is in style because most people don't know how to think from inside of  
themselves. They follow the crowd. The bottom line is that it is very difficult 
 to 
live a spiritual life in the mist of structure. Many of us have chosen to be  
a part of this struggle by incarnating on this planet and leaving behind a 
much  more open minded culture. My memories of being with my culture 
(Pleiadian) 
is so  ideal most people think that I'm hallucinating when I talk about it. 
The free  exchange of  energy that our economy is based is sharing subtle  
energy in order to expand. No one is left behind and no one is judged by how  
much 
more they have since we see everyone as having the same opportunities to  have 
as much as they need without lack of energy and intelligence. I pray that  
this planet can allow this type of a system to manifest over the next seven  
years by 2014. It would help everyone to relax more and flow with divine  
intelligence rather than having to worry all of the time if others will except  
my 
ideas because I need to pay the rent or eat today. In other words, even if  
people don't enjoy your ideas you can still pay the rent and eat. This is every 
 
artists dream also along with many souls that have chosen to do spiritual work. 
 Just a few thoughts. 
 
Thanks for the information you provided because it resonates with so many  
people on the spiritual path and you are giving people some profound 
information 
 that helps them to say-It's OK that I'm not always excepted for my ideas. 
Ask  the people who are famous for there ideas and you find out that they can 
have  anything they want materially but their is a price to pay spiritually for 
 
selling out on your ideas to please your audience. And most of the pleasing 
is  to keep a few wealthy families rich who don't care if your come down with 
aids  or cancer and have nothing left to pay your mortgage with. They will 
foreclose  your home and take the rest of you with them. But, in galactic 
cultures 
we will  love you even more if your in trouble and provide love and joy to 
the  experience so no one is seperated from the collective idea of  inspiring 
on 
the basis of giving. There are no ideas to sell in the higer  dimensions. 
Just love to give without needing to own anything or  anyone. Lsoma. 
 

 
 
 
We live in a world in which many of the conflicts
around us are based  (IMO) on ideas, and on *how*
those ideas are communicated to others. Some  on
this planet clearly feel that their ideas are so
right that they  have the duty to convince 
others of their rightness. Think religious  
fanatics who actively attempt to convert others 
to their beliefs.  Think those who believe that
their particular beliefs or form of  meditation
or prayer or worship should be mandated, made 
into a law,  and imposed on everyone for their 
own good. Think even those who seem  compelled 
to react to any idea that is in conflict with 
their own  ideas as an attack, or an excuse for 
an argument in which they can  prove the super-
iority of their ideas.

Does that seem  *respectful* to you? Does that
seem like the most effective manner in which  one
can present one's spiritual ideas to others?

It doesn't to me.  There is a metaphor that, for
me, presents a somewhat cooler way of  presenting 
one's ideas to others -- just *present* them and 
then see  whether anyone has an interest in them. 
If so, and the other person asks  to hear more, 
explain more. If not, cool. The ideas have been  
presented, made available. 

A teacher I used to work with never  used the 
hard sell in his public talks. He never sug-
gested in those  talks that he or his ideas were 
better than any other teacher or any  other

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual bookstores as a metaphor for spiritual forums

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 5/31/2007 10:34:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The information is enlightening. It speaks  volumes in regards to 
 saying yes to every experience in life.
  However, it is tough to live up to this in a capitalistic society 
  where you are expected to pay your rent or mortgage on time. If 
 your  ideas don't sell then how can you pay your bills. When I 
 worked for  Deepak Chorpra I saw his own struggle with this. He 
 is one of the  best at selling ideas to the public that make book 
 sales improve in  order to keep his contract with his publishers 
 and a working  relationship with his agent. We have built a 
 financial world around  us which doesn't allow for spiritual 
 development because we depend so  much on others buying our 
 ideas. 

I might suggest that this  isn't precisely true, Lou.
Those who *sell* their ideas and depend on the  money
they receive for those ideas to pay their bills may
be concerned  about whether those ideas sell.

But what about the situation I  mentioned in my little
essay itself? When I taught meditation Rama-style,  I
did it FOR FUN, paying for all of the expenses myself.
I supported  myself at another career SO THAT I could
have fun that way.

It seems  to me that it's only the model of *selling*
one's spiritual ideas that is  dependent on the 
publish or perish mentality. 
 You are correct. You  can be spiritual, spontaneous, creative without the 
need to sell and still  make money. But why have we created a situation where 
we need to think about  earning money at all is my point. More often then not 
their is so much of the  little ego involved with our economic system to 
control and manipulate others  through our *ideas*. People in this world want 
to own 
others and will do  anything to sell their ideas in order to have that power. 
You are very  rare. Most people want money to buy them power. Many of our 
spiritual  leaders who sell ideas are fallen souls who have settled for power 
at 
the cost  of creating heaven on earth. Yes, one of them is MMY. The greatest 
seller of  meditation in the world and the most frustrated master as he has 
tried to work  with the system only to be controlled by  the judgments and 
ideas 
of  others who will not except his world plan. He will be much happier going 
back  to the fifth dimension soon. Jai Guru Deva. Lsoma. PS. I believe you said 
that  you didn't charge for meditation in your essay. How can you pay your 
bills by  not charging? Even those who don't charge take donations.  


 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The discipline of letting go (of TM)

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 5/29/2007 2:40:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
 
In a message dated 5/29/2007 1:37:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a message date
 
Andrew Cohen, Ekhart Tolle and many others have had spontaneous  experiences 
of enlightenment. They have forgotten what got them to that  experience in the 
first place. After all if your in a state of CC or GC and  you forget about 
the dualistic path that got you there in the first place why  would you 
recommend it. I think MMY is correct. The nervous system needs to be  cultured 
to 
reflect a specific state of cons. The regular practice helps  culture the 
nervous 
system.  Andrew and others should be focusing on the  collective meditation 
and promoting it within their groups. All of these  teachers seem to be more 
concerned about their own attention to what they want  to teach. We need more 
teachers to reach out to others and start a  network
of practitioners regardless of the form of meditation. I don't think  people 
are bored of the regular practice of meditation. I think everyone wants  a 
more expanded version of the group experience. MMY tried to do it but he is  so 
exclusive to not only others joining his TM or TM Sidhi's group and has  even 
made it difficult for those who are TM-Sidhi practitioners to join. For  this 
very reason he will not accomplish his goal of creating world peace.  O-the 
bitter taste of judgement.Stick it out with your meditation. Don't stop  doing 
it 
everyday. When the violence calms down in  the world then we can relax our 
practice. Most people who do other  forms of meditation never do it everyday or 
with some consistency. They brush  their teeth everyday, take a shower, feed 
the body, go to work, exercise but  god forbid we meditate everyday.  Lsoma.

 
 
 
Bhairitu  said
In fact  in other systems it's no great crime if 
you miss some meditations.  

Yes.  I wonder if I  would not be better served by going to a different 
practice.  If for no  other reason than after 30 years of this maybe its time 
to 
explore some  other areas of the brain.  I have really enjoyed reading Sally  
Kempton's Heart of Meditation where she suggests playing with  meditation, 
trying different approaches.  Not taking the darn thing so  seriously.  Her 
Guru, Swami Muktananda wrote a book on the importance  of this playfulness.

 
 I wonder if  this incessant need to eat, sleep 
 and brush my teeth is  healthy?

Eating sleeping and brushing are not a great  metaphor for meditation.  
Eating and sleeping are physiological  necessities.  We stop - we die.  There 
is no 
choice involved  here. 
If you don't  brush your teeth they will decay and fall out. If you don't 
meditate  everyday your nervous system will decay and you will not have a clear 
 
connection to the soul. The soul is the most important aspect of living life  
in balance. The metaphor about the value we place on daily activities such  as 
brushing our teeth is good. Do you value your soul as you do  brushing your 
teeth? And if you don't then meditate for others and  stop thinking about 
yourself so much. It's not about you its about keeping  the collective madness 
stable enough so that humanity and planet earth can  continue to survive. If 
you 
don't meditate everyday your soul will die. It  is food for the soul. If you 
stop your soul dies. Lsoma.

Can we  equate TM to toothbrushing?  Both have benefits to their habitual  
practice.  On the other hand those who don't brush their teeth face  terrible 
dental problems eventually.  What lies in store for the  millions of people 
with 
out a meditation practice?  Is it as bad as  gingivitis?

Does anybody else here feel this strong need to meditate  after so many years 
of habitual practice?  Its as if the neural  networks have been redesigned to 
NEED meditation 2 x a day.  Is this  healthy? 
Yes,  its healthy. We program ourselves to do lots of things everyday that 
are  less important for our spiritual growth and calming down the violence in 
the  world. Lsoma.


[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For me, meditation does  clear me out and center me. But its not about me 
after 30 years, its about  the collective.

I have  been reading a lot of Andrew Cohen lately who has been experimenting 
with  expanding group consciousness through intersubjectivity.  It is a very  
interesting approach. 
Andrew  loves to think. It's no wonder he thinks that meditation is primarily 
 narcissistic. If he could calm his busy intellect down for two seconds  
instead of analyzing enlightenment to death he may find the silence speaks  
louder 
than words and value silence as a means to eventually gain  enlightenment. 
Besides, there are many levels of CC and all of these  teachers who think they 
have completed the processes are going to find out  there is more to 
experience. That enlightenment is a word that has many  levels of expansion 
once you get 
beyond being in a physical body.  Lsoma

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ann Coulter on illegal immigrants

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 5/29/2007 12:00:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Why doesn't America invest in Mexico's economy? That would take away  the 
need for them to leave a country that is starving to death. Give it five  years 
of investment and the problem will go away all by itself.
After all, we built China's economy and now its India. Why not Mexico?  Lsoma.

 
 
 
 Nowhere in my post does it say or suggest or
 hint at anything  of the kind. You made that
 up, attributed it to me, then called me a  liar.

What you wrote was very deceiving - you attempted 
to  decieve. In context, almost every single American 
company hires illegals  through sub-contractors, since 
we all eat food harvested by illegal  aliens. But a 
very small percentage of illegals are hired directly
by  the companies you cited. Shemp seems to be correct.

You got caught  deceiving and posting a non sequitur
in an attempt mislead due to the fact  that you are
an inveterate argumentative time-waster.

Shemp  wrote:
  The only time so-called big business has ever 
   been caught hiring illegal's is through sub-contractors, 
   who do the direct hiring of illegals.
 
jstein wrote:
  Tyson Foods
 Miller Brewing
 Honeywell
 Home  Depot
 Ford
 Wells Fargo Bank
 Hormel
  IHOP
 Swift and Co.

 All hire  illegals.



 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The discipline of letting go (of TM)

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 5/29/2007 1:37:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
Andrew Cohen, Ekhart Tolle and many others have had spontaneous experiences  
of enlightenment. They have forgotten what got them to that experience in the  
first place. After all if your in a state of CC or GC and you forget about 
the  dualistic path that got you there in the first place why would you 
recommend it.  I think MMY is correct. The nervous system needs to be cultured 
to 
reflect a  specific state of cons. The regular practice helps culture the 
nervous  
system.  Andrew and others should be focusing on the collective meditation  
and promoting it within their groups. All of these teachers seem to be more  
concerned about their own attention to what they want to teach. We need more  
teachers to reach out to others and start a network
of practitioners regardless of the form of meditation. I don't think people  
are bored of the regular practice of meditation. I think everyone wants a more 
 expanded version of the group experience. MMY tried to do it but he is so  
exclusive to not only others joining his TM or TM Sidhi's group and has even  
made it difficult for those who are TM-Sidhi practitioners to join. For this  
very reason he will not accomplish his goal of creating world peace. O-the  
bitter taste of judgement.Stick it out with your meditation. Don't stop doing 
it  
everyday. When the violence calms down in the world then we can relax our  
practice. Most people who do other forms of meditation never do it everyday or  
with some consistency. They brush their teeth everyday, take a shower, feed 
the  body, go to work, exercise but god forbid we meditate everyday. Now we 
know 
why  the world is so screwed up. Lsoma.

 
 
 
Bhairitu  said
In fact  in other systems it's no great crime if 
you miss some  meditations.

Yes.  I wonder  if I would not be better served by going to a different 
practice.  If for  no other reason than after 30 years of this maybe its time 
to 
explore some  other areas of the brain.  I have really enjoyed reading Sally 
Kempton's  Heart of Meditation where she suggests playing with meditation, 
trying  different approaches.  Not taking the darn thing so seriously.  Her  
Guru, Swami Muktananda wrote a book on the importance of this  playfulness.

 
 I wonder if this  incessant need to eat, sleep 
 and brush my teeth is  healthy?

Eating sleeping and brushing are not a great  metaphor for meditation.  
Eating and sleeping are physiological  necessities.  We stop - we die.  There 
is no 
choice involved  here.

Can we equate TM to toothbrushing?  Both have benefits to  their habitual 
practice.  On the other hand those who don't brush their  teeth face terrible 
dental problems eventually.  What lies in store for  the millions of people 
with 
out a meditation practice?  Is it as bad as  gingivitis?

Does anybody else here feel this strong need to meditate  after so many years 
of habitual practice?  Its as if the neural networks  have been redesigned to 
NEED meditation 2 x a day.  Is this  healthy?


[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For me, meditation does clear me out and center me. But its not  about me 
after 30 years, its about the  collective.

I have  been reading a lot of Andrew Cohen lately who has been experimenting 
with  expanding group consciousness through intersubjectivity.  It is a very  
interesting approach.

Meditation is primarily narcissistic.  The  argument that somehow one has to 
first meditate before they can come into the  world to help others is 
questionable.  There are plenty of altruistic  people out there making a 
positive mark 
without CC or GC.  Atheists are  capable of doing good.

I am not sure of the relevence of your response  to my question about the 
addictive nature of a 30 year  practice.

curtisdeltablues said,
But I  can also speak
for the rest of the world in wondering what's up with  the
buttsplicer email Stu?

I work as a film  editor.  It was the first name that stuck after trying a 
dozen or so in  gmail.   I reserve the gmail account for the internet because 
whenever it  gets published it invites too much spam.

s.



  
 
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  Every so often this daily  meditation practice feels like an addiction. 
  I find myself  structuring the events of my day so that I can get my
  afternoon  session in, or changing plans to I will have time in the
  morning.  If I miss a sitting, I feel lethargic and dull. Sometimes I
  have  to sneek off to a staircase or a closet for my TM. I wonder if a
   habit so ingrained is healthy.
  
  So about three weeks  ago I decided to stop for a while to see what would
  happen. The  first week was very difficult. I have had headaches and
  had to  battle the desire to sit. At one point I had a job interview and
   realized I needed to do my TM before the interview to keep my calm.
   
  At this point I still feel I am missing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Message from Ron

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 5/28/2007 1:00:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
Is this the same Ron who was a fanatical, abrasive, pro-TM,  TM-is-
 the-best, anti-everyone- the-best, anti-everyone-WBRelse's-system T
 
 Same Ron, but he appears to have mellowed a  lot.

What is shocking is that he appears to have left Maharishi for a  new 
Guru. It doesn't sound like the same Ron, although I read only a very  
small amount of the exchange. His postings used to be straight TM  
dogma. At least it doesn't appear that he is prostelitizing for Guru  
G. Only thing worse than spouting dogma about something, is finding a  
new cause and then spouting that new dogma, saying the old dogma  
suddenly became obsolete.

lurk 
 O Lurk, you're such a smart person. Do you still meditate or are you  the 
know it all rebellious type. Or maybe you're like me. The rebellious type,  
know it all who still meditates and thinks that there is hope for this planet.  
Lsoma.



 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] A Modest Prediction: Gore/Bloomberg Win Presidential Elec...

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 5/28/2007 1:56:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
While odds makers would probably give this a  100:1 odds, to me  the
pieces and forces are set up in such a way that I suggest it may  happen. 
Some of the dynamics:

The two new book on Hillary will  continue to eat away at her support,
an the strength of those left on  board.

Hillary and Obama wiil slug it out, exposing both to their  weaknesses.

Bloomberg will announce and run a self-funded Independent  ticket run. 

Gore will step in just before the Democratic conventions  as the one
candidate that can bring the party together and win the  election.

Gore and Bloomberg will have an informal understanding that  neither
wants to be a spoiler that results in a Republican win. They  will
agree to merge forces in Sept or October or so, with the one who  leads
in the polls taking the head of the ticket. Bloomberg would be  Gore's
VP, but if Bloomberg heads the ticket, Gore will not run as  VP.

Gore / Bloomberg will be a much stronger ticket than the battle  weary
Rupublican candidate who had to slug it out to get the nomination.  If
McCain wins the nomination, his pro-Iraq stance will kill him as  the
country turns more anti-war. If Rudi wins, his past,  marriage,
connectionsconnectionsWBR, hated by many New Yorkers as Mayor w

--

IMO, Gore is a changed man, based  on several recent long interviews I
have seen. Spontaneous, deeply read,  deeply thought out positions,
conviction, humor, and .. unattached.  

MMY said once that winning the US presidency is like gaining  a
higher state of consciousness -- with the countries positive  feelings
and attention on them. And losing has the opposite effect.  

Gore having lost, worse, having lost when he (probably) won, got  a
double whammy of deep rooted samskars of ego, pride, ambition  and
glory ripped from him. It ouch hurt for sometime. He has healed  and
is much looser, unattached, more service oriented, without a  personal
agenda. I think he has a chance. 
 Al Gore is already president of what he believes in. Environmental  
activist who got nothing done while he was Vice President in regards to the  
environment. Now he is getting much more attention. My prediction is that he  
will not 
run. The concert being held on July 7, 2007  A planet in Crisis is  the 
kind of thing we will see more and more from famous celebrities and  eventually 
leaders in the fields of mind/body medicine with Al Gore playing a  huge role 
in creating a grass roots political voice movement. Hillary has  everything 
going for her in regards to whom people can trust because of her  political 
background and her husband will become her leading voice as he tours  the 
country 
to rally his audience. She has Pluto as her ruling planet since  she is Scorpio 
(Western) and with Pluto crossing over her 7th house cusp it  gives her the 
needed power to attract a lot of attention. Also, Pluto in the  7th gives 
support from the spouse since the 7th house is about marriage and  one to one 
partnerships. Pluto however also represents death and Hillary will  need 
security 
around her as she moves into October of this year. I'm going to  pick Hillary 
as president and Obama as her vice president. She also has Pisces  Moon which 
can give her needed intuitive strength. Gemini rising helps with  
communication. I also feel a woman would be more open to the idea of mind/body  
medicine 
and promote ideas like yoga for woman's health and to calm men down.  Bloomberg 
doesn't have a chance. President Bush will capture  Bin Ladin or kill him in 
September or October and stir up more power to the  Republican party only to 
find more mud being shaken up at the bottom of his  ocean of lies shortly after 
the rally is over of Bin Ladin's capture.  After all of the war messes left 
behind by men people in America are ready for  a woman president and a mixture 
of black and white from a vice president who  cares about bringing humanity 
together all around the world. IT IS TIME FOR A  HUGE CHANGE. Part of the huge 
change will be the passing over of MMY in July  or August. Many spiritual 
communities need to change their little minds and  merge into a greater whole. 
Lsoma.


 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] The discipline of letting go (of TM)

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 5/27/2007 3:59:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
Stu wrote:
 Every so often this daily meditation practice feels like  an addiction. 
 I find myself structuring the events of my day so that  I can get my
 afternoon session in, or changing plans to I will have  time in the
 morning. If I miss a sitting, I feel lethargic and dull.  Sometimes I
 have to sneek off to a staircase or a closet for my TM. I  wonder if a
 habit so ingrained is healthy.

 So about  three weeks ago I decided to stop for a while to see what would
  happen. The first week was very difficult. I have had headaches and
  had to battle the desire to sit. At one point I had a job interview  and
 realized I needed to do my TM before the interview to keep my  calm.

 At this point I still feel I am missing the practice. My  consciousness
 is in a semi-fog. Is this the way the rest of the world  feels?

 s.
Maybe you need a better technique. TM is probably  only just enough to 
keep you clear better two settings a day. Other  systems are strong 
enough that if you miss a day or two or even a week the  mind is still 
clear and sharp as well as the perception of the  transcendent in 
activity (MMY's CC). In fact in other systems it's no  great crime if 
you miss some meditations. I even asked my guru to comment  on why an 
enlightened person would even continue meditating since it seems  
superfluous as once there the awareness of the transcendent keeps  
growing even without meditation. 
 For me, meditation does clear me out and center me. But its not about  me 
after 30 years, its about the collective. Many TM's are stuck on themselves  to 
acquire CC or claim they are in CC. You don't really have to give anything  
of yourself to acquire CC. But, if you want GC you would need to develop  
service to others. This is why most meditators in the TMO are selfish and  
unable 
to see past there nose and will lie in order to keep their place on the  foam 
in the dome. For me-it is about the collective madness. Until the  violence 
calms down I recommend everyone to continue their TM practice or any  other 
meditation or prayer practice. By thinking of the world in regards to  the 
benefits 
of TM or other forms of meditation we are looking beyond our own  personal 
ego for benefits. Instead our heart becomes involved when we start  thinking 
about what it can do for the world-for others. And by thinking of  benefiting 
others we fulfill the spiritual quest of giving up our little minds  to a 
bigger 
mind and gaining a larger heart. Otherwise we feel stuck  in our own self 
absorption of consciousness that we develop in our practice  because we are not 
thinking beyond our own needs.  God wants us to give up our thoughts and 
feelings and meditate for others who  are suffering. They can use some of the 
energy 
that is generated. The time to  stop meditating will be when the violence in 
the world calms down. When that  happens there will always be those few people 
who are more committed in order  to maintain a less stressful environment. 
Love and Light. Lsoma.

-  Bhairitu
Check out my anti-war music video:
_http://youtube.http://youhttp://youtub_ 
(http://youtube.com/watch?v=fxHbirAKKR4) 


 


 



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[FairfieldLife] Re:JULY 7, 2007 AL GORE AND A PLANET IN CRISIS CONCERT WORLDWIDE

[Lsoma]

 

Al Gore announced on Larry King live that seven continents will hold a  
concert to continue educating people about the problem of global warming. I had 
 
predicted in 1995 that it would be celebrities and grass roots organizations  
along with scientists that would bring about a spiritual revolution in  
humanity. 
 
I also predicted in 1995 that in 2008 men and women would stand beside each  
other as equals. Therefore,
I predict that Hilary Clinton will be the next president and Obama will be  
her vice president. However, there
will be some surprises along the way during this presidential run. UFO  
activity will be high enough to consider a government beyond ours and President 
 
Bush will pull the trump card (Osama Bin Ladin) in the
fall of 2007 around September or October just when the democrats want to  
start a pull out of Iraq. This will
complicate the situation with terrorism rather than calm it down. Bush will  
be trying to end his term as a war hero and to revitalize his party with the  
capture or killing of Bin Ladin. This will not work. 
 
Please take the time out to visit Al Gore and friends as many intuitive's  
have been talking about July 7, 2007
as a portal opening up from the seventh dimension to add more energy to the  
areas on earth that are powerful conductors of spirituality. This is one of 
the  dates I am predicting MMY will pass over. The other dates in July for his  
passing would be July 16, 17 or around Guru Purnima day. If not July it will 
be  August. It is time for MMY to move
on because he has held up the energy of the Age of Enlightenment since  1993. 
And there are too many people continuing the anger and discontent within  the 
TM community only adding more stress to the collective nightmare that is  
happening. The TMO will never change but it's audience will not be the same  
without MMY. Many will move on and continue his mission outside of the TMO 
which  
will move things much faster. As many of you know many people have already 
moved  on and have taken their practice with them. I have been a regular 
practitioner  of TM for 29 years and will continue until the day my body dies. 
America 
will be  moving in a spiritual direction by the spring of 2009 and things 
will get much  better everywhere. 
 
Al Gore's webiste for the July 7th concert is  _SOS | Live Earth | 
7.7.07»Blog Archive » AL  GORE, KEVIN WALL, PHARRELL, MANÁ,_ 
(http://liveearth.org/?p=22)  
 
Sincerely,
 
Lsoma

 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ann Coulter on illegal immigrants

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 5/24/2007 2:14:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 We  fought a Civil War to force Democrats to give up on slavery
 150 years  ago. They've become so desperate for servants that now 
 they're  importing an underclass to wash their clothes and pick
 their  vegetables. This vast class of unskilled immigrants is the 
 left's new  form of slavery.

--Ann Coulter

This paragraph by itself should  resolve the doubts
of anyone who has ever entertained the  possibility
that Ann Coulter is not one of the most  viciously
intellectually dishonest individuals on the planet. 
She is a player in the game of capatalism and will do anything to sell  a 
book.  
If the Repulicans or the Democrats had any wisdom they would invest in  
Mexico's 
economy and within five years it would solve the immigration problem.  Pretty 
simple. Instead we have been investing in China. Does this make any  sense? 
Lsoma. 



 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My response to a friend's suggestion that we engage i...

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 5/23/2007 12:39:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
From: FairfieldLife@ FairfieldLi FairfieldLife@WBRyahoogr FairfieldLife@ 
FairOn Behalf Of  off_world_beings
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:55  AM
To: FairfieldLife@ FairfieldLi Fa
Subject:  [FairfieldLife] Re: My response to a friend's suggestion that we 
engage in a  discussion about th

 
 
 

You are kidding yourself Rick, and Turq also is fooling  himself.

In the 21st century people will only listen to research  published 
peer-reviewed scientific journals, not heresay, conspiracy  theories, 
and the meandering monologues posted here. This is a fact of  life. 
There is no getting away from that. It is the Rationalists Victory  
over fundamentalism and tribalism. It is not totally perfect yet of  
course, but in the next 20 - 50 years, it will become more and more  
apparent what is efficacious and what is effluence. This is the 
modern  world.

OffWorld 
Maybe, but it seems to me  that there’s a spiritual renaissance going on and 
more and more people are  waking up, in the spiritual sense, and putting a lot 
more stock in their  personal, subjective experience than in some scientist’s 
evaluation of it. If  someone has genuinely woken up to the Self, they’re not 
going to run down to  the local EEG lab to have their experience 
corroborated. 
 I agree with Rick. MMY  has spent millions of dollars on scientific 
research and he still has a  problem getting people to purchase his ideas on 
ME. It 
was wonderful being  with Mother Meera for the first time in NY this past 
weekend. People sitting  in silence for three hours without any need to sell 
meditation. The  intellectual male spiritual leaders have come to a dead end 
street 
in regards  to scientific and intellectual superiority. It is time to just 
experience the  simplicity of reality rather than intellectually dissect it 
until 
reality is  left with nothing but a theoretical answer with very little 
interest to pursue  love and joy even when it is obviously proven 
scientifically. 
We have  enough people meditating to create world peace. More time should be 
spent on  finding a place for all meditators to practice in large groups around 
the  world. Love and Light. Lsoma.





 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Mother Meera site

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 5/22/2007 8:16:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Sounds like someone is bored out of their head. MMY will pass over in  July 
or August of 2007 and I don't need to give or take six months on either  side 
of the date. It is obvious from your response that you don't care about  
world peace. Grow up. Lsoma.

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just got back form seeing Mother Meera for the  first time in 
New York... Finally, there is a teacher that can have at  least 
400 people at a time sitting in silence for up to three hours. I  
have been told by St. Anthony that she is a seventh dimensional  
teacher.

(Applause. We've been waiting for this score. We can  finally 
breathe)

Very rare.

(Not VSOP)

MMY is from  the third level of the fifth dimension.

(Yes, thanks for this  perspective/(Yes, thanks

I will be posting on my website some  information in my summer 
newsletter 

(oh goody)

around the  June 7th the specific dates that I feel MMY will pass 
over in July or  August

(be sure not to say which year)(why not add give or take six  months)

The times are changing and I believe that Mother Meera along  with 
other teachers are providing the opportunity of changing with the  
present times. 

(wow, this IS profound)

Enough of MMY and  what he did or didn't do. 

(ENOUGH I SAY, ENOUGH)

It is time to  gather in groups that are working with the present 
calling. 

(Lou,  will you put it in your newsletter, when we should all gather  
together)

Bringing people together in silence.

(oh yes.  Silence, deep silence. Nothin betta)

If you haven't seen Mother Meera  yet and experienced her darshan 
along with the group darshan of silence I  highly recommend it. 

(we're hanging on your every word  Louie)

Without a work spoken she delivers the message of  wisdom.
 
(how original)

(lurk)
 
 
  

 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Mother Meera site

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 5/23/2007 2:28:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

On May 23, 2007, at 12:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sounds  like someone is bored out of their head. MMY will pass over in 
 July  or August of 2007 and I don't need to give or take six months on 
  either side of the date. It is obvious from your response that you 
  don't care about world peace. Grow up. Lsoma.

Oh come on, Lou, where's  your sense of humor?  Lurk's parody was funny. 
Sure seems like a  breath of fresh air to me at least in the midst of  
the  holier-than-thou crap that often passes for 'spiritual' discussion  
here.

Sal


 OK.  I will lighten up. Googie, Googie. Lsoma.  











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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My response to a friend's suggestion that we engage i...

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 5/23/2007 2:54:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com)   
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ]
  On Behalf Of off_world_beings
 Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:55  AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My response to a friend's suggestion 
that  we
 engage in a discussion about th
 
 
 You are  kidding yourself Rick, and Turq also is fooling himself.
 
 In  the 21st century people will only listen to research published 
  peer-reviewed scientific journals, not heresay, conspiracy 
theories,  
 and the meandering monologues posted here. This is a fact of life.  
 There is no getting away from that. It is the Rationalists Victory  
 over fundamentalism and tribalism. It is not totally perfect yet  
of 
 course, but in the next 20 - 50 years, it will become more and  
more 
 apparent what is efficacious and what is effluence. This is  the 
 modern world.
 
 OffWorld
 
 Maybe,  but it seems to me that there's a spiritual renaissance 
going on  and
 more and more people are waking up, in the spiritual sense, and  
putting a
 lot more stock in their personal, subjective experience  than in 
some
 scientist's evaluation of it. If someone has  genuinely woken up to 
the Self,
 they're not going to run down to  the local EEG lab to have their 
experience
  corroborated.

Naw man, you're imagining things. 
There  is less awakening now than 20 years ago. A lot of very fat 
people  instead.

And by your logic a born-again christian justifying bombing  the 
shit out of other countries, or a muslim suicide bomber, are  
examples of people who believe their personal experience is of any  
importance. 

There will never come a time when Science will be  superceded by New 
Age self-agrandizing dribble. This is the reality of  life. This is 
the modern world. You need to accept this new realization to  be 
liberated . 
 The way science is going it will blow up the whole world before anyone  can 
have a chance to prove their position as being valid. I believe America  has 
thousands of  Nuclear bombs. So much for the saving grace of Science.  Lsoma.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Mother Meera site

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 5/19/2007 11:46:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 I just got back form seeing Mother Meera for the first time in New  York. I 
waited 10 years to see her and she was incredible as well as the way the  
whole operation of the Darshan. Finally, there is a teacher that can have at  
least 400 people at a time sitting in silence for up to three hours. I have 
been  
told by St. Anthony that she is a seventh dimensional teacher. Very rare. MMY 
is  from the third level of the fifth dimension. I will be posting on my 
website  some information in my summer newsletter around the June 7th the 
specific 
dates  that I feel MMY will pass over in July or August. The times are 
changing and I  believe that Mother Meera along with other teachers are 
providing 
the  opportunity of changing with the present times. Enough of MMY
and what he did or didn't do. It is time to gather in groups that are  
working with the present calling. Bringing people together in silence. If you  
haven't seen Mother Meera yet and experienced her darshan along with the group  
darshan of silence I highly recommend it. Without a work spoken she delivers 
the  
message of wisdom.
 
Love and Light. Lou Valentino. Lsoma.

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am putting up a  new website about Mother Meera. It's not yet
 complete, but you can  already scroll through quotes and a more
 complete photo gallery: _http://mrreddy.htt_ (http://mrreddy.org/) 

Good stuff Trin.  Thanks for posting.

lurk



 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Save the Dome, send $

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 5/17/2007 11:20:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 People are struggling for money in Fairfeild Iowa. MMY, if he had any  
sense of compassion and heart you would tell Tony Nader to sell his gold crown  
and fix the dome. Then he would tell the rest of the Rajas in America to sell  
there crowns and build a new dome in the town of Fairfield, Iowa for the 
Sidha's  that the TMO kicked out of the dome so they can contribute to world 
peace.  
Then  MMY would invite all of the meditators to participate with the  Sidha's 
letting them know that they are just as important if not more important  than 
the Sidha's. Then MMY would invite all other meditation organizations such  
as SSR to participate in a global ME regardless if they are practicing TM. They 
 can use their chosen mantra or technique. Now we know MMY will never do this 
 because he has a problem thinking outside of the lower fifth dimensional  
frequencies. Therefore, why wait for MMY to ordain everything when I can do it  
myself. And to continue-any teacher that says that mixing different meditation 
 techniques are dangerous is talking from their inflated ego. As long as 
people  are sitting in silence then the ME is in effect regardless if they have 
been  initiated from the TMO or not. Love and Light. Lsoma.

 
 
 
Shemp observes:
??

Did I incorrectly read the  Kaplan posts that were posted here? Did I
not read here that if you  cross the Shrivastava family that you do it
risking your own physical  safety? Did I not read here that a donor
who once sent $1 million to  the Movement in India was told that the
money was lost in  transit?
What does the fucking cultspeak that you blather above mean in  this
conversation?conver

For automatic deduction from a  bank account: I authorize the
University to collect my monthly pledge  from my checking account/
 savings account. Enclosed is a voided check  or savings deposit
slip
 from my current  account.

Cultspeak? Well Shemp, ten pretty good people did sign this  crafted 
fundraising letter with these, that was part of a 4 color 4 page  
solicitation. TM-Movement glossy and was sent around about the dome  
roof. 

Cultspeak? The brochure does read groupspeak and a 'group  edit' in this 
effort. Earnest good, knowing these guys. 

Not  absolute inner sanctum Bevan and John or upper Raja$ level 
necessarily  though nearly, but resolute practical supporters of the old 
university and  the old school consciousness-university and  the ol
the group  meditation program.

Differently for the longrun meditating FF community  one could hope that 
these guys had some speck of moral courage to parlay  their support for 
some organizational transparency and not just get layed  by the master 
and powers that be necessarily.

Their own following  language, 'send your donation, ... so we can make a 
deposit... is very  interesting language of 'accountability' on their 
character. Sort of like  trying to have a credible suporter like, Earl 
Kaplan at the front door of  the 100 millionaires course? Though not 
unlike old-man Zimmerman or other  donors who eventually stopped writing 
blank checks and dropped to paying  on invoices for project contract  
work actually done. Is a truth and  transparency in this against 
something else which evidently is, the  movement.  it is the movement, 
we got here, in  FF.

JGD,

-Doug in FF


 ...

  The Dome is is at the heart and soul of our community, so please
 send  your donation or pledge now so we can make the deposit
required
  to make a repair appointment this summer.

 ...

  They are fundamental to our cherished goals of invincibility  for
our
 country, and for creating a more perfect  world.

 ...

 Maharishi is allowing us the honor  to carry on his very precious
 work. Please make your donation or  pledge now at whatever level you
 can, and thank you in advance for  your support.

 ...

 Think of it as a small way  to repay Maharishi's recent generosity.. 
 There has never been so  much given to this community for so little
  cost.


--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ,  dhamiltony2k5 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  FW: 
 The roof of the Men's Golden Dome is leaking and needs to be  fixed 
 right away, and we need your help to do it. Whether you enjoy  group 
 program in the Men's Dome every day or as a visitor from out of  town, 
 we invite you to make a meaningful contribution.
  
 …
 
 The Dome is at the heart and soul of our  community, so please send 
your 
 donation or pledge now so we  can make the deposit required to make a 
 repair appointment later this  summer.
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield, and Mother Meera in Chicago

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 5/6/2007 2:00:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  dhamiltony2k5 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  
 Mother Meera:
 _http://www.mmdarshahttp://wwhttp_ (http://www.mmdarshanamerica.com/) 

Just  curious, is she perhaps from the North of India? 
No. She is from the South. Lsoma.

 
 Chicago  Program:
 _http://www.mothermehttp://wwwhttp://www.mhtt_ 
(http://www.mothermeeraashram.org/default.jsp) 
  
 -Gov Doug,FF



 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, and Mother Meera in Chicago

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 5/5/2007 11:56:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Dear Doug,
 
Did you see her? Mother Meera. What was your experience if you did. I will  
be seeing her in the New York area for the first time on May 20th and 21st. 
Love  and Light. Lou Valentino

 
 
 
If you want to visit FF, a lot of FF people are in Chicago this weekend  
and next, seeing Mother Meera there in Oak Park.

I stopped by on  Friday there and the parking garage was full of 
Jefferson County Iowa  cars. Lots gathering there and more expected for 
the weekend after  work.

In the Oak Park restaurants afterwards in the evenings too with  FF 
folks. Very fun pilgrimage for the FF meditating  community.

Mother Meera:
_http://www.mmdarshahttp://wwhttp_ (http://www.mmdarshanamerica.com/) 

Chicago  Program:
_http://www.mothermehttp://wwwhttp://www.mhtt_ 
(http://www.mothermeeraashram.org/default.jsp) 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Pity, the Poor Pundits

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 5/1/2007 8:10:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
We, really want angry bitter men doing yagya? Sounds dangerous on 
many  levels of intention.

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Some pundit news from a  well-informed inside source:
 
 
 
 . The pundits  were not given a clear idea of what their 
living
 conditions here  would be. They were not told they would be 
cloistered behind
  fences. They understood that they would be free to move about and 
see  new
 things here. Most of them are very frustrated and stir-crazy in  
their
 confinement.
 
 . The tuberculosis rumors are  true. I don't know how many 
are
 infected, but anyone who has had  contact with the pundits has been 
tested.
 
 . In his sales  pitch to lure them here, Bob Raja Wynne 
promised
 them a $300  monthly stipend, but they are only getting $30.
 
 . The pundits  are indentured to the TMO for at least 20 
years. They
 were all  obligated to take out loans to help build some SV 
structure. It's
  not clear to me what the structure is. Perhaps their living and  
chanting
 facility in India. I'll find out. Anyway, as long as they  are 
punditing, the
 movement covers the payments, but if they  leave, they have to cover 
them. If
 they don't Anand and Prakash  Srivastava sic the police on them. This
 happened to the ex-pundit from  whom I got this information.
 
 . This pundit also said that the  Srivastavas are very rich 
and
 basically say to MMY, Look, you're  very old. Don't worry about 
these
 financial matters. We'll take  care of them.
 
 
 
 On a related note, I'm  always arguing that MMY micromanages the 
movement and
 no one tells  him what to do. I think that generally this is the 
case, but I
 can  think of one incident which refutes this. When the Natural Law 
Party  was
 doing its thing, John Gray donated $50,000. He was promptly  invited 
to come
 to Vlodrop. When he got there, there was a tussle  between Bevan and 
Hagelin,
 Bevan arguing that John wrote  inappropriate books and shouldn't be
 permitted to meet with  Maharishi and Hagelin arguing that the books 
helped
 people and  that he should meet with him. Apparently MMY let the two 
of them
  work out the issue, although I've often seen him do that and then 
in  the
 end, do what he wanted to do anyway. A compromise was reached in  
which John
 talked with MMY on the phone. I don't know whether that  reflected 
MMY's
 desire or not. In the conversation, MMY tried to  recruit John to do 
stuff
 for the movement, but John declined,  saying he liked the way his 
life was
 going. 
 What a circus act. Can you imagine what will happen when MMY passes  over 
in July or August. A holy ego war is about to happen in the TMO. The  pundits 
should not be lied too in regards to the agreements made and this will  
backfire on the TMO and MMY. Lsoma. 



 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ever wonder where the prudery in the TMO came from?

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/26/2007 1:56:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Here ya go. I agree with your point, but I also enjoy calling 
 Richard  Gere a dick. I'm pretty sure this wont help his cause. 
 I don't think  it would be pandering to lighten up on the old 
 letch vibe a bit. It  really wasn't fair to the chick.

What I saw (couldn't hear any sound in  this noisy
cafe if there was sound) was the chick dragging 
an  obviously reluctant Gere up on stage and not 
letting him go, all to help  her career (she won 
a silly TV talent contest, ferchrissakes) and him  
playing along, and then giving her career a bit
more of a boost than  she expected. She'll ride this
tempest in a pisspot all the way to the Bank  Of 
Bollywood.

Face it -- this furor is because of Hindu  racism,
pure and simple. They didn't like seeing a white
guy kissing one  of their own, especially one that
they jack off to photos of every night  before get-
ting up the next morning and pretending to be pure
little  Brahmins. :-) 
I hear you no-reply. We finally agree for a change. Thank you for your  last 
reply in wishing me a fast healing with my present personal  circumstances. 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ever wonder where the prudery in the TMO came from?

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/26/2007 1:31:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
Here ya go. I agree with your point, but I also enjoy calling  Richard
Gere a dick. I'm pretty sure this wont help his cause. I don't  think
it would be pandering to lighten up on the old letch vibe a bit.  It
really wasn't fair to the chick.

_http://youtube.http://youhttp://youhtt_ 
(http://youtube.com/watch?v=pt23lqF-nM8) 

---  In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ,  TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ,  curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
  --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ,  TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
  
   India,  that's where. Sometimes the sheer
   backasswards idiocy of  India just blows
   my mind.\
  
   Although I agree with your point, I saw the tape and Gere 
  was  being a total dick. With his exposure to Indian culture, 
  he has  no excuse for bringing this on himself and to the 
  chick he was  mashing on. 
 
 Haven't seen any video. But what is he  supposed
 to do, pander to a hypocritical culture that
 doesn't  allow kissing in public but that has one
 of the fastest-growing AIDS  rates on the planet 
 because of uncontrolled prostitution? 
 I agree. The AIDS and prostitution problem is worth talking about and  just 
maybe Richard was trying to force the issue because no one is listening  in 
India which hides sexuality as if no one is having sex in India. There are  
over 30,000 babies being born a day in India (Maybe more) .Somebody is having  
sex  And now, issuing a warrant for his arrest. America is not perfect or  
any other country for that matter but India has been hiding out in the corner  
for so long it is time to open up to some ideas or ideologies that come from  
the West. I visit the Lakshmi Temple here in Ashland, MA and have great  
respect for their culture so I am speaking from some experience. When I first  
saw 
the clip with Richard Gere I was laughing so hard. Indians are making a  lot 
of money in America and America has given a lot of its resources to  India. 
India should be thankful and leave Richard Gere alone. Love and Light.  Lsoma.



 


 



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[FairfieldLife] Re:DIFFERENT STATES OF CONS/DIFFERENT DIMENSIONS

[Lsoma]

 
QUESTIONS FROM THE COLLECTIVE/Lou Valentino
 
According to MMY the seven states of consciousness can be experienced while  
in a physical body. Is this true?
 
NO. One can have intervals of experiencing TC, CC or GC. Full experience of  
CC would mean you have at least entered the sixth dimension after physical 
death  or are in the higher levels of the sixth. When we transcend we are 
experiencing  the upper sixth dimensional vibration. Once you have mastered the 
first 
six  dimensions and enter the 7th then you have established a permanent state 
of GC.  The seventh dimension is where the masters of the lower six planes 
reside in GC.  Guru Dev is in the beginning levels of the sixth as well as 
SSRS. 
Ammachi  is stepping into the sixth. This is where heart starts to take over- 
 In the upper fifth to beginning of the sixth. Mother Meera is from the  
seventh as well as Ekhart Tolle (Very rare). Only three seventh dimensional  
masters are in physical embodiment presently GC.
 
Waking, dreaming and sleeping belong to the third and fourth  dimensions. 
(Non-Meditators mostly)
 
TC along with the other three combine experiences of the fifth and sixth  
dimensions. Bodies are etheric in the fifth and sixth.
 
GC is the seventh dimension. Golden light is everywhere and you are able to  
read the Akashic Records
 
UC is the 12th where the subject and object are no longer involved. A  
compete merging with the absolute.
 
Meditators are growing towards CC and as MMY has said in SCI you can have  
experiences of  the other states of awareness at different times. UC is  
without 
a physical or etheric body however.
 
Is MMY enlightened? NO. Is Deepak Chopra? NO. Bevin Morris? NO, NO. John  
Hagelin? NO.
 
MMY is from the third level of the fifth dimension. He is still growing  
towards CC. This is the reason why he only see's the structure of his  
organization being so important. More important than taking care of the soul's  
that are 
involved in creating his organization. The reason why many leave out of  human 
frustration due is lack of attention to personal feelings and a rush  to save 
the world without looking who he is stepping on. But, he still is the  best 
meditation teacher on this planet. Lsoma.
 

 
 
 










  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 4 years to live

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/23/2007 11:40:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
From: FairfieldLife@ FairfieldLi FairfieldLife@WBRyahoogr FairfieldLife@ 
FairOn Behalf Of  bob_brigante
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 10:25 PM
To:  FairfieldLife@  Fairfie  
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re:  4 years to live

 
 
 
_http://www.nytimes.http://wwhttp://www.nythttp://www._ 
(http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/24/science/24bees.html) 


Reportedly Charlie Lutes said  that bees come from Venus, so maybe the bees 
are just going back home.  Lou, can you check with Charlie on  this? 
I wish I could. I'll ask St.  Anthony next time i get a reading. Although the 
person who does the soul  transfer just had a stroke so hopfully she won't be 
following the bees back to  Venus soon. She is getting old. Lsoma.


 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Save the Dome, send $

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/23/2007 10:50:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

On Apr  23, 2007, at 8:27 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote:

 --- In  FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  snip

   Pray for me that I can heal as soon as  possible and get back to a
 more  balanced sense of who I really  am.
 Love and Light Lou.

 Fine, great, Lou, but can  you do it the context of five posts.
 Believe you me, no one other than  you probably feels that your great
 commentaries warrant more than five  posts.  Or to put it another
 way, if you can't strike gold in  five posts, stop boring.

Brevity is the soul of  wit.--Shakespeare

Actually, I find most of Lou's posts downright  refreshing, especially 
next to some of the other tomes people post here on  occasion.At 
least he speaks from the heart, not just  reposting some endless 
transcript that goes on and  on.

Sal





 Sal, you are so kind. I was thinking yesterday that you and Rick are  the 
only one's that get my sense of humor. There are some people on the FFL who  
take me so seriously. I agree that I can go on and need to get to the point 
with 
 less information. Thank you for your insight and friendship. It means a lot 
to  me these days. Even though I say negative things about the TMO, I do care 
about  what MMY has done and continues to do for the world. I will start 
posting   Questions from the Collective today regarding questions that most 
people have  about TM, SCI, MMY and how it relates to FFL forum. I think you 
will 
love it  because your the kind of person who wants to hear things that are 
outside of the  box. Love and Light. Lou Valentino



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS--Group program

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/23/2007 9:32:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

On Apr  23, 2007, at 6:50 AM, Dome Announcements wrote:

 Two ways to hit  the target

 *   We all come just a little more often  — 11% as a group.

 *   We all inspire just a few more  of our out-of-town Sidha friends to 
 join
 us.

*   The geniuses in the course office stop stop rejecting people who 
actually  *want* to be in the Domes.  For everyone else, it's pretty 
much  over.

 Every Yogic Flyer is so very precious — to the group, to our  country, 
 and to
 our world.

Except, of course, when  they aren't.

Sal




 I know that some of you think I talk to much about this situation but  it 
is so important. Unfortunately the Department for the Development of  
Consciousness which OK's the badges and let's Sidha's in the dome is sleeping 
on  this. 
Let's face it-They only have their office open two hours a day to give out  
badges. If they care about world peace they can do two things: 1. Extend office 
 hours. 2. Let Sidha's in who are doing their program on a regular basis and 
who  are of sound mind/body/spirit and overlook their personal choices that 
they make  spiritually when they are on their own time. These kinds of choices 
is what  would make America Invincible. It is unfortunate that those who are in 
 leadership positions in the TMO are not helping MMY programs expand. And as 
we  move into Pluto conjuncting the galactic center for the month of July it 
becomes  even more important. 
Lsoma.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Save the Dome, send $

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/23/2007 8:43:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
FW: 
The roof of the Men's Golden Dome is leaking and needs to be  fixed 
right away, and we need your help to do it. Whether you enjoy group  
program in the Men's Dome every day or as a visitor from out of town,  
we invite you to make a meaningful contribution.

…

The Dome  is at the heart and soul of our community, so please send your 
donation or  pledge now so we can make the deposit required to make a 
repair  appointment later this summer. 
 Maybe the Sidha's who are flying in the men's dome can ask MMY to sell  one 
of his golden couches he sits on to pay for the roof. Or, maybe Tony Nader  
might be kind enough to sell one of his rolls royces. My point: Stop asking  
people who have donated money to the movement all these years who have little  
money to spend in the first place and get it from the leaders of the movement  
who seem to have enough money to spend on those golden crowns they wear on  
their heads. They should sell their crowns and fix the roof on the men's  
golden 
dome. Or maybe MMY should cancel his projects to rebuild the buildings  of 
the world and try to stop his own roof from leaking in Iowa.  Lsoma.

…


 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS--Group program

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/23/2007 10:09:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

On Apr  23, 2007, at 8:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a message dated  4/23/2007 9:32:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
 On Apr 23, 2007, at 6:50 AM, Dome Announcements  wrote:

  Two ways to hit the target
 
   *   We all come just a little more often — 11% as a  group.
 
  *   We all inspire just a few more  of our out-of-town Sidha friends 
 to
  join
   us.

 *  The geniuses in the course office stop stop  rejecting people who
 actually *want* to be in the Domes.  For  everyone else, it's pretty
 much over.

  Every Yogic  Flyer is so very precious — to the group, to our country,
  and  to
  our world.

 Except, of course, when they  aren't.

 Sal

  I know that some of you think  I talk to much about this situation 
 but it is so important.  Unfortunately the Department for the 
 Development of Consciousness  which OK's the badges and let's Sidha's 
 in the dome is sleeping on  this. Let's face it-They only have their 
 office open two hours a day  to give out badges. If they care about 
 world peace they can do two  things: 1. Extend office hours. 2. Let 
 Sidha's in who are doing their  program on a regular basis and who are 
 of sound mind/body/spirit and  overlook their personal choices that 
 they make spiritually when they  are on their own time. These kinds of 
 choices is what would make  America Invincible. It is unfortunate that 
 those who are in  leadership positions in the TMO are not helping MMY 
 programs expand.  And as we move into Pluto conjuncting the galactic 
 center for the  month of July it becomes even more important.

Lou,
I accidently sent  my response first back to the office which sends out 
the  Announcements--wonder if I'll get an answer. :)  I have a funny  
feeling, probably not.

Sal




 Hello Sal,
 
Maybe it will help. God only knows. Lsoma.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Save the Dome, send $

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/23/2007 10:15:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

On Apr  23, 2007, at 8:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a message dated  4/23/2007 8:43:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:


 FW: 
 The roof of the Men's Golden  Dome is leaking and needs to be fixed
 right away, and we need your  help to do it. Whether you enjoy group
 program in the Men's Dome every  day or as a visitor from out of town,
 we invite you to make a  meaningful contribution.

 …

 The Dome is at the  heart and soul of our community, so please send your
 donation or  pledge now so we can make the deposit required to make a
 repair  appointment later this summer.

  Maybe the Sidha's who are  flying in the men's dome can ask MMY to 
 sell one of his golden  couches he sits on to pay for the roof. Or, 
 maybe Tony Nader might be  kind enough to sell one of his rolls royces. 
 My point: Stop asking  people who have donated money to the movement 
 all these years who  have little money to spend in the first place and 
 get it from the  leaders of the movement who seem to have enough money 
 to spend on  those golden crowns they wear on their heads. They should 
 sell their  crowns and fix the roof on the men's golden dome. Or maybe 
 MMY should  cancel his projects to rebuild the buildings of the world 
 and try to  stop his own roof from leaking in Iowa. Lsoma.

No wonder they've banned  you from the Domes, Lou--all that common sense 
is downright  subversive.  Use their *own* $$ to pay for badly-needed  
repairs??  What heresy.

Sal




 I hear you. Actually, the leaders of the movement should be people  like 
ourselves. Everything would run smoothly and with less obstacles.  Lsoma.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Save the Dome, send $

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/23/2007 10:56:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 In a message dated 4/23/2007 8:43:48  A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
 dhamiltony2k5@ dhamiltony
  
 
 
 
 FW: 
 The roof of the Men's  Golden Dome is leaking and needs to be fixed 
 right away, and we need  your help to do it. Whether you enjoy 
group 
 program in the Men's  Dome every day or as a visitor from out of 
town, 
 we invite you to  make a meaningful contribution.
 
 …
 
 The Dome  is at the heart and soul of our community, so please send 
your 
  donation or pledge now so we can make the deposit required to make 
a  
 repair appointment later this summer. 

  Maybe the  Sidha's who are flying in the men's dome can ask MMY to 
sell one 
  of his golden couches he sits on to pay for the roof. 

What golden  couches ?

Or, maybe Tony Nader 
 might be kind enough to sell  one of his rolls royces.

What Rolls Royces ?

Lsoma; You are  chronically illinformed. Be it Maharishi, Tony Nader 
or Benjamin Creme is  seems as if you have no clue to what they are 
doing. It's a pity. Have a  nice day. 
 Your constant negative thinking about me is due to your own need to  
convince me you know it all. At this point it would be more evolutionary to  
keep 
your less than positive thoughts about me to yourself. Who are you  anyhow? 
Have 
you ever worked for the TMO? Do you practice the Sidhi's? You are  welcome to 
call me at 978-582-6192 and talk with me about why you seem so  misinformed 
about who I am and then feel justified to judge me with false  pretense. Love 
and Light. Lou Valentino. 


 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Save the Dome, send $

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/23/2007 3:14:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 In a message dated 4/23/2007  10:56:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   writes:
 
 
 
 
 --- In  _FairfieldLife@ --- In  _Fair
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) )  
 , Lsoma@ wrote:
 
  
  In a message  dated 4/23/2007 8:43:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
   dhamiltony2k5@ dhamiltony
  
  
  
   
  FW: 
  The roof of the Men's Golden Dome is  leaking and needs to be 
fixed 
  right away, and we need your  help to do it. Whether you enjoy 
 group 
  program in the  Men's Dome every day or as a visitor from out of 
 town, 
   we invite you to make a meaningful contribution.
  
   …
  
  The Dome is at the heart and soul of our  community, so please 
send 
 your 
  donation or pledge  now so we can make the deposit required to 
make 
 a 
   repair appointment later this summer. 
 
   Maybe the  Sidha's who are flying in the men's dome can ask MMY 
to 
 sell one  
  of his golden couches he sits on to pay for the roof. 
  
 What golden couches ?
 
 Or, maybe Tony Nader 
   might be kind enough to sell one of his rolls royces.
 
  What Rolls Royces ?
 
 Lsoma; You are chronically illinformed.  Be it Maharishi, Tony 
Nader 
 or Benjamin Creme is seems as if you  have no clue to what they are 
 doing. It's a pity. Have a nice day.  
  Your constant negative thinking about me is due to your own need  
to 
 convince me you know it all. At this point it would be more  
evolutionary to keep 
 your less than positive thoughts about me to  yourself. Who are you 
anyhow? Have 
 you ever worked for the TMO?  Do you practice the Sidhi's? You are 
welcome to 
 call me at  978-582-6192 and talk with me about why you seem so 
misinformed 
  about who I am and then feel justified to judge me with false 
pretense.  Love 
 and Light. Lou Valentino. 

No need to call you, you can  expalin right here why you spread 
misconsceptions about the Movement.  Again; what golden couches and 
what Rolls Royces ? Please  explain.


 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Save the Dome, send $

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/23/2007 3:14:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 In a message dated 4/23/2007  10:56:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   writes:
 
 
 
 
 --- In  _FairfieldLife@ --- In  _Fair
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) )  
 , Lsoma@ wrote:
 
  
  In a message  dated 4/23/2007 8:43:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
   dhamiltony2k5@ dhamiltony
  
  
  
   
  FW: 
  The roof of the Men's Golden Dome is  leaking and needs to be 
fixed 
  right away, and we need your  help to do it. Whether you enjoy 
 group 
  program in the  Men's Dome every day or as a visitor from out of 
 town, 
   we invite you to make a meaningful contribution.
  
   …
  
  The Dome is at the heart and soul of our  community, so please 
send 
 your 
  donation or pledge  now so we can make the deposit required to 
make 
 a 
   repair appointment later this summer. 
 
   Maybe the  Sidha's who are flying in the men's dome can ask MMY 
to 
 sell one  
  of his golden couches he sits on to pay for the roof. 
  
 What golden couches ?
 
 Or, maybe Tony Nader 
   might be kind enough to sell one of his rolls royces.
 
  What Rolls Royces ?
 
 Lsoma; You are chronically illinformed.  Be it Maharishi, Tony 
Nader 
 or Benjamin Creme is seems as if you  have no clue to what they are 
 doing. It's a pity. Have a nice day.  
  Your constant negative thinking about me is due to your own need  
to 
 convince me you know it all. At this point it would be more  
evolutionary to keep 
 your less than positive thoughts about me to  yourself. Who are you 
anyhow? Have 
 you ever worked for the TMO?  Do you practice the Sidhi's? You are 
welcome to 
 call me at  978-582-6192 and talk with me about why you seem so 
misinformed 
  about who I am and then feel justified to judge me with false 
pretense.  Love 
 and Light. Lou Valentino. 

No need to call you, you can  explain right here why you spread 
misconceptions about the Movement.  Again; what golden couches and 
what Rolls Royces ? Please explain. 
 I don't know who you are but if you continue to accuse me of being a  liar  
I will have to talk with Rick Archer about how I should react to  your 
perceptions of me. 
Please try to be more thoughtful with your comments. You are attacking me  
and it is not nice. You take what I say much to seriously. When I answer your  
questions honestly you don't listen and make up your own delusional image of  
who you want me to be and not who I am. State your personality. Are you a  
graduate of SCI? A teacher of TM? A Sidha? Are you flying in the dome? My  
sister 
is close friends with a family member of Tony Nader and told her that  either 
he picked her up in a rolles royce or he had someone pick her up. Just  relax 
with what I say and stop being so serious. It is hard enough for people  like 
myself who have been dedicated to MMY to have to be judged all of the  time. I 
know they will never understand who or what I am and judge me  unfairly, I 
don't need more judgements from others. Try to see where I'm  coming from and 
if 
you can't then just let me be. I am a devotee of Lakshmi  and will be seeing 
Mother Meera for the first time in New York. She is one of  three individuals 
who are from the seventh dimension. I have waited for  several years to see 
her. I never had the money to travel. The reason for me  saying this is I am 
currently going through a divorce with someone I love very  much. As I have 
stated please try to be more sensitive to me. I know what I  said about the 
Golden 
Dome  was not nice. I am sorry. I am hurting and  have been hurting for the 
last three years of my life. I pray to Lakshmi and  to Mother Meera that they 
can help me get through my divorce and find someone  for me. It is not an easy 
time for me. Please try to be more polite to me.  Pray for me that I can heal 
as soon as possible and get back to a more  balanced sense of who I really am. 
Love and Light Lou. 


 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Save the Dome, send $

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/23/2007 9:28:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip

Pray for me that I can heal as soon as  possible and get back to a 
more balanced sense of who I really am.  
 Love and Light Lou. 

Fine, great, Lou, but can you do it the  context of five posts. 
Believe you me, no one other than you probably  feels that your great 
commentaries warrant more than five posts. Or to put  it another 
way, if you can't strike gold in five posts, stop  boring.

lurk 
 I hear you Lurk. I guess I'm not the only one who wants to be heard.  
Sorry, if you are bored with my postings. Thank you for the compliment.  Good 
luck 
with your postings and try to use your heart. It is a part of the  spiritual 
process. Love and Light. Lou.
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: AMERICA PRAYS/AMERICA INVINCIBILITY REALITY CHECK

[Lsoma]

 
Dear friends, ( I WOULD APPRICIATE MORE OF A RESPONSE FROM THOSE WHO HAVE  
BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE TMO AND TM OR AFFILIATED GROUPS SUCH AS SSRS).
 
I have and still am convinced that the ME works. As I have stated in the  
past we would need at least 
1,000 practitioners in each state of America to create this effect. MMY and  
John Haeglin are dreaming if they think that 1,800 Sidha's will solve the  
problems of America.
 
Today we mourn for the victims of Virginia Tech. I will do a puja today for  
the families and friends of those who have been murdered. 
 
Just in the month of April we have had a Tsunami that hit the Solomon  
islands, tornado's that hit the Midwest and southeast states showing high  
tornado 
activity, racial comments from Imus who got fired,
the largest mass murder in American history by a college student, a  
noreaster that caused considerable flooding ( the last one to hit in April of  
this 
size was 25 years ago), 140 Iraqi's blown up around the same time the  college 
students got killed and unseasonable weather patters throughout April  with 
lower than normal temperatures. 
 
Keep in mind that since the America Invincibility started a young man  killed 
his parents and siblings in Iowa, 
a man stops at an Amish school in PA and kills several children execution  
stile and the president decides to send more troops to Iraq to continue the 
war. 
 
Many of you might say, well what about the positive. According to MMY and  Dr 
John Hagelin we should be experiencing minimal violence and balanced weather  
patters. It is obviously not the case. My advise to both
MMY and Dr. John Hagelin is to let the 326 Sidha's who have been not  allowed 
access to the dome to fly with them. Also, asking the TM meditators to  come 
and join in America Invincibility with as much fever as they use to promote  
the Sidha community. The quick fix attitude that MMY has by not emphasizing the 
 meditators roll in the peace process has turned many people off. An 
organization  cannot save the world it is the people within the organization 
who can.
 
My predictions regarding the planet Pluto are coming true. Go to 
_Astrological Varieties_ (http://www.yogavisionaries.com/)  and click  
predictions for 
2007. Regardless of how people will judge my work on this forum  I am on 
target. 
I am predicting the passing over of MMY in July or August of  this year. July 
7, 16 and Guru Purnama on the 28 or 29 depending on what system  of astrology 
you follow. I don't have any dates for August and feel July is the  month. If 
not July it will be August. This passing over is very positive for it  pushes 
everyone who has been lazy and insecure about thinking for themselves to  come 
to some final conclusions about our family and families that have been  
effected by MMY and the TMO. It will do further damage to an organization that  
should have listened to some of the advise from others over the years. A holy  
war will begin between the leaders of MMY organization and further damage will  
be done within the organization and the positive side of this is other  
organizations who represent spiritual flexibility will grow and other new 
groups  
will form to carry on with the natural tendency of nature to expand. As  
spiritual communities continue to seek the Guru's permission to grow on the 
path  to 
enlightenment remember this- YOU ARE THE TEACHERS OF THE WORLD. A few Guru's  
from India keep the planet alive but we must gather together on our own when 
the  Guru is not in town and sit together in silence. Silence is the most 
powerful  form of creating world peace at the present time.
The Aquarian age is about groups coming together not isolating yourselves  in 
your own private homes. Try
to move beyond your own personal feelings of what you want (even from the  
Guru) and think about the family of humanity. Love and Light. Lou (Patanjali)  
Valentino

 
 
 




 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: AMERICA PRAYS/AMERICA INVINCIBILITY REALITY CHECK

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/20/2007 11:37:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
 
In a message dated 4/20/07 9:50:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] 
writes:

Just in the month of April we have had a Tsunami that hit the Solomon  
islands, tornado's that hit the Midwest and southeast states  showing high 
tornado 
activity, racial comments from Imus who got  fired,
the largest mass murder in American history by a college student, a  
noreaster that caused considerable flooding ( the last one to hit in April  of 
this 
size was 25 years ago), 140 Iraqi's blown up around the same time  the college 
students got killed and unseasonable weather patters throughout  April with 
lower than normal temperatures. 
 
Keep in mind that since the America Invincibility started a young man  killed 
his parents and siblings in Iowa, 
a man stops at an Amish school in PA and kills several children  execution 
stile and the president decides to send more troops to Iraq to  continue the 
war. 



Ah, but Lou, you don't mention that the Supreme court upheld a law that  
forbids partial birth abortion which many consider infanticide or bordering on  
it 
and a baby that was born prematurely at 22 weeks after conception survived  
to go home with her mother and father. These two events are life supporting  
and should be celebrated.  
 
 You missed my point. America is supposed to be Invincible  remember. That 
means no violence anywhere even from mother nature.  Are you on the course in 
Fairfeild? Are you a Sidha? If you are still active  within the TMO please stop 
putting your head in the sand. I don't need any  government body to give me 
any advise. All of the answers to life are located  just beneath the heart 
where the soul of information is. Can you at least  admit that what I am saying 
has some truth to it in regards to the promises  that the TMO is making about 
America Invincibility?  Lsoma.



 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: responsibility

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/20/2007 1:14:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
I thought Stalin had solved this pesky problem decades ago. We can
call  ours the Permanent Summer Camp for Socially Awkward People. 
Although,  considering the lack of history being taught, we might get
away with using  Gulag again. Just tell them its were Britney did
her rehab. 

---  In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ,  authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ,  MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
  
  In a message dated  4/20/07 6:39:12 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
  shempmcgurk@  writes:
  
  It is reported that VT killer Cho had once  stalked a campus girl 
 and 
  that he was arrested but that  she refused to press charges.
  
  Had she pressed  charges, do you think that could have had some 
 effect 
   on him? Could it have led to him being evaluated and put in a 
 better  
  position that he had been in to get help?
  
   As such, do you feel that the girl who refused to press charges 
   contributed to the horrible events at VT?
  
  Yes  , her compassion, if that is what it was, backfired.
 
  Actually, there were at least two stalking incidents
 reported to the  campus police. After the second one,
 one of Cho's roommates called the  police again to report
 that Cho was talking about committing suicide.  At that
 point he was taken by police to an outpatient  psychiatric
 facility for evaluation, but legally they couldn't  do
 more than hold a few counseling sessions and prescribe
 some  medication. They urged him to continue counseling,
 but he  refused.
 
 The point being that he was in the best possible  position
 to get help but wouldn't take advantage of it. It  isn't
 at all clear whether the woman pressing charges would
  have made a difference.
 
 He then managed to stay under the  radar until the rampage.
 Even his roommates didn't have any further  warning that
 he was going to blow, even when they saw him that  very
 morning, and by that time he'd apparently been planning
  the shooting for at least a month. 
 It is amazing that the law enforcement in Virginia handled this with  such 
stupidity. I have a feeling that after the funeral is over many parents  will 
be questioning why after two students had been murdered on campus the  first 
person they would have thought of is Cho. After all he is the only  student who 
had records with the police station for unusual behavior. They  called it an 
isolated incident and let the classes continue as normal. They  should have 
had an immediate lookout for Cho and told all of the students  classes are 
canceled and to go home. A very poor handling by law enforcement.  I predict 
law 
suits will follow after the funeral is over and that the hired  body of private 
investigators will cover the Virginia police departments ass.  Lsoma.



 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Problem of Consciousness

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/18/2007 10:08:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
_http://www.quantumchttp://www.quahttp://www.quanthttp://www.quanthttp://www_ 
(http://www.quantumcconsciousness.org/presentations/whatisconsciousness.html) 

The  Problem of Consciousness

Conventional explanations portray  consciousness as an emergent
property of classical computer-like activities  in the brain's neural
networks. The prevailing views among scientists in  this camp are that
1) patterns of neural network activities correlate with  mental states,
2) synchronous network oscillations in thalamus and cerebral  cortex
temporally bind information, and 3) consciousness emerges as a  novel
property of computational complexity among neurons.

However,  these approaches appear to fall short in fully explaining
certain enigmatic  features of consciousness, such as:

* The nature of subjective  experience, or 'qualia'- our 'inner
life' (Chalmers' hard problem);
*  Binding of spatially distributed brain activities into unitary
objects in  vision, and a coherent sense of self, or 'oneness';
* Transition from  pre-conscious processes to consciousness itself;
* Non-computability, or  the notion that consciousness involves a
factor which is neither random,  nor algorithmic, and that
consciousness cannot be simulated (Penrose, 1989,  1994, 1997);
* Free will; and,
* Subjective time flow.

Brain  imaging technologies demonstrate anatomical location of
activities which  appear to correlate with consciousness, but which may
not be directly  responsible for consciousness.

Figure 1. PET scan image of brain  showing visual and auditory
recognition (from S Petersen, Neuroimaging  Laboratory, Washington
University, St. Louis. Also see J.A. Hobson  Consciousness,U
Scientific American Library, 1999, p.  65).

Figure 2. ElectrophysiologicaFigure 2. ElectrophysiologicaWBR

How do neural firings lead to thoughts and feelings? The  conventional
(a.k.a. functionalist, reductionist, materialist,  physicalist,
computationalist) approach argues that neurons and their  chemical
synapses are the fundamental units of information in the brain,  and
that conscious experience emerges when a critical level of  complexity
is reached in the brain's neural networks.

The basic idea  is that the mind is a computer functioning in the brain
(brain = mind =  computer). However in fitting the brain to a
computational view, such  explanations omit incompatible
neurophysiological details:

*  Widespread apparent randomness at all levels of neural processes
(is it  really noise, or underlying levels of complexity?)(
* Glial cells  (which account for some 80% of brain);
* Dendritic-dendritic  processing;
* Electrotonic gap junctions;
*  Cytoplasmic/*  Cytoplasmic/WBRcytosk
* Living state (the brain is  alive!)

A further difficulty is the absence of testable hypotheses  in
emergence theory. No threshold or rationale is specified;  rather,
consciousness just happens.

Finally, the complexity of  individual neurons and synapses is not
accounted for in such arguments.  Since many forms of motile
single-celled organisms lacking neurons or  synapses are able to swim,
find food, learn, and multiply through the use  of their internal
cytoskeleton, can they be considered more advanced than  neurons? 

more... 
 Sounds like you need to spend more time in silence or get a job.  Better 
yet use your dome pass more often since you think your such a dedicated  Sidha. 
Lsoma.


 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invincible America:, It's the #'s

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:31:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
AFAIK the folks at MUM were specifically instructed
to avoid this  newsgroup (as part of their not putting any
attention on negativity  agenda);

This statement makes me throw up in my mouth. What kind of  lame
spirituality or university can't tolerate a little discussion  from
differing points of view? This site show what is good  about
spirituality, actual expanded awareness and ability to  comprehend
(even if not always agree) with different perspectives. I  predict
that this short a mental leash works on a very few  childhood-regressed
adults. The rest of Fairfield responds with a  cosmic
whateverrrwhatev

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  george_deforest
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Lou Valentino wrote:
  
  I have a feeling that if  Jeffrey Cohen ever reads 
  any of my thoughts and feelings on FFL  he is 
  going to wish he gave me a badge to get into the dome.  
  He is the co-director of the dept for the development
   of consciousness. Wh Waaa.
 
 Lou, i'm pretty sure  he will never be reading your stuff! 
 I don't care if he reads it. The world speaks for itself. The  negativity 
in the world will continue as long as the Sidha's and meditators  are not 
together. I think MMY has made this clear in regards to the ME.  Lsoma.
 
 AFAIK the folks at MUM were specifically instructed  
 to avoid this newsgroup (as part of their not putting any 
  attention on negativity agenda); FWIW the true believers
 tend to do  what they are told, LOL!



 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invincible America:, It's the #'s

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:05:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com)   
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ]  On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:13 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invincible America:, It's the  
#'s
 
 
 
 Yes, they rejected me at over  the phone and at the office for the 
department for the development of  consciousness because I'm a yoga 
teacher, astrologer and teach my own form  of meditation. Maybe if 
they could relax the guidelines and treated  practitioners of TM and 
TM Sidhi's with a little respect they would have  created 
Invincibility for America years ago. What a bunch of idiots. MMY  
should be on top of this. 
 
 He is on top of this. He has  micromanaged the movement from day 
one. He has carefully chosen and  groomed the people under him. Love 
it or hate it, he is primarily  responsible for what the movement is 
today.

Exactly. And the  Movement is doing very well, not bringing the world 
to fast forward but  giving it just the right amount of coherence.

All is well, all manner  of things are well - Maharishi

Now, those who complain about not being  allowed to be part of the 
Yogic Flying; how about some tiny little  self-inspection. It's rather 
obvious that Maharishi does not want someone  in the Dome who teaches 
other meditation techniques, or fills his/her aura  with all kinds of 
energies from some saint here and some saint there. That  is one way 
he is protecting his dedicated followers. 
 I have been a dedicated practitioner of TM and TM Sidhi's for 29 years  and 
I mean everyday twice a day without any stopping in between. I do not  
channel any energies of other soul's. I do have a close friend who does soul  
transfer by allowing another seventh dimensional soul called Saint Anthony to  
communicate through her. The meditation technique i teach is none of the TMO  
business. It is amazing how the TMO is the only spiritual organization that  
judges 
other people for this. The Yoga community laughs at this stuff. No one  at 
the Hindu temple I visit or any other saint from India has turned me away.  MMY 
has had a great influence on my life. For those who have signed up as a TM  
teacher you have to be married to MMY policies. For me, I can teach to my yoga  
students what I want to. It is none of the TMO business. But, keep kissing the 
 TMO ass because if you don't you may not get into the dome. Then what will 
you  do with your life? When the shit hits the fan the TMO could care less 
about  you as a human being. They only care about one thing and only one thing. 
 
Protecting the purity of the teaching. As if the unbounded, invincible quality  
of the self needs protecting. Such ego is laughed at by most people from  
India. Especially from the South. Lsoma.


 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invincible America:, It's the #'s

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/18/2007 9:13:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:05:40  P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   writes:
 
 
 
 
 --- In  _FairfieldLife@ --- In  _Fair
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) )  
 , Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  From:  _FairfieldLife@ From:  _Fairf
 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) )  
 [mailto:_FairfieldL [mailto:_Fairfi [mai
 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) )  ] On Behalf Of Lsoma@
  Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:13  AM
  To: _FairfieldLife@ To: _FairfieldLi
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) )  
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invincible America:, It's  
the 
 #'s
  
  
  
   Yes, they rejected me at over the phone and at the office for 
the  
 department for the development of consciousness because I'm a yoga  
 teacher, astrologer and teach my own form of meditation. Maybe if  
 they could relax the guidelines and treated practitioners of TM  
and 
 TM Sidhi's with a little respect they would have created  
 Invincibility for America years ago. What a bunch of idiots. MMY  
 should be on top of this. 
  
  He is on top of  this. He has micromanaged the movement from day 
 one. He has carefully  chosen and groomed the people under him. 
Love 
 it or hate it, he  is primarily responsible for what the movement 
is 
 today.
  
 Exactly. And the Movement is doing very well, not bringing the  
world 
 to fast forward but giving it just the right amount of  coherence.
 
 All is well, all manner of things are well -  Maharishi
 
 Now, those who complain about not being allowed to  be part of the 
 Yogic Flying; how about some tiny little  self-inspection. It's 
rather 
 obvious that Maharishi does not want  someone in the Dome who 
teaches 
 other meditation techniques, or  fills his/her aura with all kinds 
of 
 energies from some saint  here and some saint there. That is one 
way 
 he is protecting his  dedicated followers. 
  I have been a dedicated practitioner of TM  and TM Sidhi's for 29 
years and 
 I mean everyday twice a day  without any stopping in between. I do 
not 
 channel any energies of  other soul's. I do have a close friend who 
does soul 
 transfer by  allowing another seventh dimensional soul called Saint 
Anthony to 
  communicate through her. The meditation technique i teach is none 
of the  TMO 
 business.

Thats right, and it is also none of your  business to enter the Dome 
with the kind of attitude you display. As you  mentioned earlier; you 
do teach other forms of meditation. 
Just Let  it Be 
BTW:  I hope you fly up so high in the dome that your head gets  knocked up 
against the ceiling to knock some sense into you. You don't  deserve to be in 
the dome. YOU CAN STICK THE DOME UP YOUR ASS. 

It is  amazing how the TMO is the only spiritual organization that 
judges  
 other people for this. The Yoga community laughs at this stuff. No  
one at 
 the Hindu temple I visit or any other saint from India has  turned 
me away. MMY 
 has had a great influence on my life. For  those who have signed up 
as a TM 
 teacher you have to be married  to MMY policies. For me, I can teach 
to my yoga 
 students what I  want to. It is none of the TMO business. But, keep 
kissing the 
  TMO ass because if you don't you may not get into the dome. Then 
what will  
 you do with your life? When the shit hits the fan the TMO could  
care less 
 about you as a human being. They only care about one  thing and 
only one thing. 
 Protecting the purity of the  teaching.

Exactly. And protecting the souls there from being exposed to  huge 
egos as displayed right here in the above post.

BTW: You  obviously has not visited some of the Hindu Tempels in the 
of South India.  They do not let foreigners into the Temples under any 
circumstances even  if they have a certificate showing that they have 
converted to  Hinduism.
Protecting the purity is nothing new, and was not invented by the  TMO.


 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] birth and death, beginning and ending, transcendence pict...

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/18/2007 9:35:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
_http://johnzoller.http://johnzolhttp://johhtt_ 
(http://johnzoller.com/alphamega/alphamega.htm) 

These  photographs capture the zenith moment in a physical process
utilizing  primordial destructive elements (fire, heat, light) and
technology. This  process mirrors the intention of the work: an
exploration of the themes of  birth and death, beginning and ending,
transcendence, and the transference  of energy.  
Now, Now. Your exploring other forms of thinking than just doing your TM  
practice. This is a violation of dome policy. Report to the office now and  
turn 
in your badge. It's time for you to completely surrender to Benjamin  Cream. 
You are the one who feels justified to judge me about me going to other  
teachers and teaching meditation? I think you have a few things to clear up in  
your 
own backyard before you start kicking dirt in my face.  Lsoma.


 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM good news site blames US gun culture

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/18/2007 12:52:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  [EMAIL PROTECTED],  MDi

 It wasn't his culture, it was his  mind. The guy 
 was mentally ill.

While I agree, as an American  Ex-pat By Choice 
I have to try to remind those still living within
the  mindculture of America that this particular 
brand of mental illness is the  first thing that
most of the human beings on the planet Earth 
think of  when they think of America.

It's sad...near heartbreaking.It's sad...near heartbr
that. It's sadder that it's probably accurate.

I  don't know about you guys, but I've spent my 
time since reading about this  latest outrage not
trying to find someone or something to blame, be 
it  gun laws or immigrants or crazies, but trying
to comprehend and somehow  come to a sense of 
comfort with the sense of uncomfortableness  that
this latest news of the land of my birth has left
me with. The  closest I can come is Ani DiFranco's
anthemic 'Tis Of Thee, one of the most  compassionate
song/poems I've ever heard. It won't really work for
you  without the music, but if you can find it online,
I highly recommend it.  But follow it up with her 
song Everest, just to balance things  out...

They caught the last poor man
On a poor man's  vacation
They cuffed him and they confiscated his stuff
They dragged his  black ass down to the station
And said, ok, the streets are safe now
All  your pretty white children can come out and see Spot run
And they came out  of their houses
And they looked around
But they didn't see no  one

My country 'tis of thee
To take swings at each other on the  talkshow TV
Why don't you just go ahead and turn off the sun
Cuz we'll  never live long enough
To undo everything they've done to you
Undo  everything they've done to you

Above 96th street
They're handing out  smallpox blankets so people don't freeze
The old dogs have got a new  trick
It's called criminalize the symptoms
While you spread the  disease
And I hold on hard to something
Between my teeth when I'm  sleeping
I wake up and my jaw aches
And the earth is full of  earthquakes

My country 'tis of thee
To take shots at each other on  the primetime tv
Why don't you just go ahead and turn off the sun
Cuz  we'll never live long enough
To undo everything they've done to you
Undo  everything they've done to you

They caught the last poor man
Flying  away in a shiny red cape
They took him down to the station
And they  said, boy, you should've known better
Than to try to escape
I ran away  with the circus
Cuz there's still some honest work left for bearded ladies  but
Its not the same going town to town
Since they put everyone in  jail
Except the Cleavers and the Brady's

My country 'tis of  thee
To take swings at each other on the talkshow tv
Why don't you just  go ahead and turn off the sun
Cuz we'll never live long enough
To undo  everything they've done to you
Undo everything they've done to you 
 And you think I'm the one they should reject from the dome.  


 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invincible America:, It's the #'s

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/17/2007 11:01:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
From: FairfieldLife@ FairfieldLi FairfieldLife@WBRyahoogr FairfieldLife@ 
FairOn Behalf Of  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:13  AM
To: FairfieldLife@ FairfieldLi Fa
Subject:  Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invincible America:, It's the  #'s

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Yes, they rejected me at  over the phone and at the office for the 
department for the development of  consciousness because I'm a yoga teacher, 
astrologer 
and teach my own form  of meditation. Maybe if they could relax the 
guidelines and treated  practitioners of TM and TM Sidhi's with a little 
respect they 
would have  created Invincibility for America years ago. What a bunch of 
idiots. MMY  should be on top of this.  
He is on top of this. He  has micromanaged the movement from day one. He has 
carefully chosen and  groomed the people under him. Love it or hate it, he is 
primarily  responsible for what the movement is today. 
I agree with you Rick. It  all started when Charlie Lutes was kicked off the 
administrative board and  MMY never cleaned up the mess in his organization 
since. It is unfortunate  because much of the collective stress that has and 
continues to build up the  world is about ready to explode even worse than what 
we have seen over the  last 10 years. I know MMY has stated recently that 
America has set itself  back 100 years with bad karma because we invaded Iraq. 
Maybe MMY needs to  look at this own choices made over the years since the TMO 
seems to think it  has all of the answers then they are the one's that are 
responsible for the  continued stress and strain that is evident in 
international 
affairs. MMY  needs to thank America for all of the financial support that has 
made some  of his relatives materialistically comfortable. Love and Light. Lou  
Valentino. PS-I have a feeling that if Jeffrey Cohen ever reads any of my  
thoughts and feelings on FFL he is going to wish he gave me a badge to get  
into 
the dome. He is the co-director of the dept for the development of  
consciousness. Wh   Waaa.










 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invincible America:, It's the #'s

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/17/2007 10:46:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

On Apr  17, 2007, at 9:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, they rejected  me at over the phone and at the office for the 
 department for the  development of consciousness because I'm a yoga 
 teacher, astrologer  and teach my own form of meditation.

In compensation, Lou, I say you  should get your pick of any gold crown 
you want.
Fair's  fair.

Sal





Thank you. I think I'll choose the one that belongs to Tony Nader. That  way 
I will change the movement within a six month period. And Sal, you will be  
the first person I welcome into the new organization. Rick Archer will be the  
president. I'll be the vice president. We are going to have one hell of a 
time.  Freedom at last, freedom at last and freedom at last.  Lsoma.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Dome numbers during the Virginia Tech rampage

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/17/2007 11:56:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
Does anybody know what the dome numbers where yesterday morning at the  time 
of the massacre? How many pundits are here also.
 
 Yes, their were about 15 people in the dome yesterday. What I mean  is that 
there are about 15 honest people in the dome. Honesty would be the  basis of 
pure consciousness. The rest of them have gotten astrology readings,  psychic, 
hugged Ammachi, received darshan from Mother Meera, breath in  accordance 
with SSRS,
etc. According to the dome policies the rest are lying and should be  kicked 
out of the dome immediately. So says MMY. And to think that they are  trying 
to protect the coherence in the dome. They can't even protect college  students 
from getting shot and killed. Yes, I'm pissed off at the TMO for  their 
spiritually immature choices and the Sidha's who could care less about  their 
own 
brothers and sisters who are out in the cornfields chanting.  Whooo 
Waaa. They care more about asking questions like What were the  dome 
numbers. 
Start caring about the community in America and Fairfield. Try  looking beyond 
the numbers and into your heart and soul. Love and Light. Lou.  O, boy-I'm on 
a role. 



 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invincible America:, It's the #'s

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/17/2007 7:58:25 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
...The key to securing true invincibility for the nation, therefore,  
is to build the size of the group to 2,000 and higher.

It's in the  numbers

1,800 Number of Yogic Flyers coming to group program each  weekday 
evening. 
200 The additional number needed to transform our  nation and the 
world. 
2,300 The number of Sidhas in the community with  current program 
badges 
500 The number not coming to group program any  given day... 

May be they could issue gold raja party hats as  party favors to, 
everyone who comes to the domes for  meditation.

May be they could count people meditating in FF out on  their own.

Someone posted here last fall who had a lead to the  registration 
inside told that 329 applying at that time had been denied or  
rejected dome badges. In how many ways do people in the meditating  
community no longer trust them up there? 
Yes, they rejected me at over the phone and at the office for the  
department for the development of consciousness because I'm a yoga teacher,  
astrologer 
and teach my own form of meditation. Maybe if they could relax the  
guidelines and treated practitioners of TM and TM Sidhi's with a little  
respect they 
would have created Invincibility for America years ago. What a  bunch of 
idiots. MMY should be on top of this. He is lacking and has lacked  the ability 
to 
create the one percent effect because he doesn't care about the  329 Sidha's or 
the thousands who have left the TMO for other more flexible  spiritual 
groups. When he passes over in July or August of 2007 the leaders in  his 
movement 
are going to sit their with their hands underneath their ass and  try to figure 
out who gets all of the gold and status they have protected all  of these 
years. What a fall out and a holy war is coming not from the  terrorist or the 
nut cases who shoot students on campuses but the holy war of  the ego within 
MMY 
own organization. Love and Light. Lou  Valentino

JGD,
-Doug in FF

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,  george_deforest 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 -- Original Message --
 Received: Mon, 16 Apr 2007  05:59:19 PM PDT
 From: Invincible America  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Invincible America: Make Hay While the Sun Shines!
 
  
 [Invincible America] _http://invincibleamhttp://inv_ 
(http://invincibleamerica.org/)   Make Hay 
While
 the Sun Shines!
 Maharishi has emphasized a  fundamental principle: The larger the 
group,
 the greater the depth  of experience — and the greater the depth of
 experience, the more  powerful the effect of invincibility in 
national
  consciousness.
 
 The key to securing true invincibility for the  nation, therefore, 
is to
 build the size of the group to 2,000 and  higher.
 
 It's in the numbers
 1,800 Number of Yogic  Flyers coming to group program each weekday
 evening. 200 The  additional number needed to transform our nation 
and
 the world.  2,300 The number of Sidhas in the community with current
 program  badges500 The number not coming to group program any given
 day11% The  amount by which we as a group need to increase our
 attendance to reach  the goal.
 Two ways to hit the target
 
 * We all come  just a little more often — 11% as a group.
 * We all inspire just a few  more of our out-of-town Sidha 
friends to
 join us.
 
  Every Yogic Flyer is so very precious — to the group, to our
 country,  and to our world.
 Click here to unsubscribe 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Can TM, Buddhism, and Advaita be merged into one entity?

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/12/2007 10:11:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
Not my ideathey already are, 1. TM as a Movement, using (as a  
remnant of Hinduism) the Holy Tradition puja; but not as a strong  
religious ideology. The SBAL and BG would be sufficient adjuncts.
In  the context of this possible fusion into one Great Tradition 
(Adi Da's  term - Wilber has a similar term for the whole unified body 
of Monist  Sadhanas which form an integral part of Buddhism and 
Saivite Hinduism); TM  could easily be practiced by Buddhists without 
compromising their  philosophical orientation.

2. Next, Advaita, i.e. Neo-Advaita since  (1.) emerged from the 
Advaita Vedanta of Shankara and is thus Advaita; but  in recent 
decades, dozens of self-styled teachers and spontaneously  Awakened 
persons have come out of the wood work; many being oriented to  Ramana 
Maharshi: if not outright devotees of R.M. then at least influenced  
by him, for example: Eckhart Tolle. 
If one could venture to compare  the total Power of this influential 
group, vis a vis the remnant of the TM  Movement; well...it's safe 
to say that the TMO is a walking corpse, not  knowing it's already a 
zombie, half-way in the grave. But no matter.  Though as a Movement TM 
will perhaps fizzle out in our lifetimes;  countless people will be 
practicing it in a forthcoming true Age of  Enlightenmentpractic
will undoubtedly include hordes of  Buddhists.

3. Third, as mentioned above, Buddhism can easily adopt TM  as a 
technique (and I predict, will do so on a wholesale basis when  
circumstances are right).

Thus, the 3 Movements mentioned above can  be merged into one 
morphogenetic field, with a complementary mix of  diverse energies; 
all oriented toward the Monist philosophical viewpoint,  but adding 
some additional evolutionary benefits from Buddhism - namely,  the 
Rainbow Light Body. This can be thought of as the ultimate goal of  
our biological evolution.

Using Venn diagrams (as another  contributor suggested), we have 3 
circles which overlap: Circles A, B, and  C. Thus, A intersects B 
intersects C. We can map prime numbers on each  circle, say 2, 3, and 
5.. The intersecting area = the product of any of  the primes.

Of course, the central area = the full unification of all 3  
Traditions: 2 * 3 * 5 = 30.

How about partial unifications: Say TM  + Buddhism. Sure!! This will 
occur some day, I predict. Not real soon,  some day in the future.
The possibilities with 3 entities, taken 2 at a  time are:
Say TM = 2, Advaita = 3 and Buddhism = 5:
1. TM + Advaita = 2  * 3 = 6
2. TM + Buddhism = 2 * 5 = 10
3. Advaita + Buddhism = 3 * 5 =  15.

Hope you will be there for the true Age of EnlightenmentHope you will
definitely not in it now, contrary to what MMY would have us  
believe. There's a lot more work to do.

To conclude, TM can be  merged with Advaita and Buddhism to form one 
larger hologram having a  certain degree of diversity to make things 
spicey. But essentially, this  will become the Great Tradition Adi 
Da and Wilber talk about under the  guise of various labels. The 
essential ingredient is non-dualism, common  to the 3 traditions which 
are artificially separate at this time. 
In  decades to come, the 3 entities will fuse, and over the centuries, 
will  gradually displace the dualist Monotheistic religions. Bravo! 
Can't  wait. 
 The Hindus will never merge Buddhism with TM. The real changes come  
worlwide when other races such as the Pleiadian's educate us about their  
lifestyle. 
All religions including Buddhism will parish over the next six  years. Most 
of the leaders including the Dalai Lama are not willing to give up  their hold 
on their own thought forms in order to completely surrender to the  now. MMY 
and many other leaders are not willing to work together. Terrorist  work much 
better together than spiritual or religious organizations. Man has  created a 
mind that runs like a machine. As long as he keeps the machine tuned  up 
through constant absorption of doctrine passed on from the past he will  
continue to 
grow in his own self made egoic experience of a false sense of  self. Who 
cares what religion you belong to or what non-dual philosophy you  follow. We 
can't even get the majority of humanity to sit in silence for three  minutes a 
day and now the non duality will integrate with duality.  Lsoma.


 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma's sex scandal

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/13/2007 1:19:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 In a message dated 4/12/2007 2:48:22  P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From:  FairfieldLife@ FairfieldLi FairfieldLife@WBRyahoogr  
FairfieldLife@ 
 FairOn Behalf Of shempmcgurk
 Sent:  Thursday, April 12, 2007 1:18 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@ Fairfie 
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma's sex scandal
 
 
  
 
  
  Values are relative. You are more  offended by organizational 
 systems being
  applied to  enable someone to give as much as possible, however 
   little,
 
 A 3-second hug in order to break some record.  
 I don’t remember noticing that on the Darshan DVD, but I assure  
you that Amma
 ’s primary motivation is not record-breaking. She  did sit there 
for 24 hours 
 straight on that occasion. The thing I  noticed was the amazing 
look on her 
 face as she came down the  stairs after that stint. 
 I've never held back my criticism of the TMO  on this forum, as you 
 know. But, as I've said countless times,  whomever MMY may or may 
not 
 be didling doesn't change whether the  TM technique works. It does. 
 
 Does hugging by a guru work?  Let's see the research on it. 
 I suppose you could measure brain  waves. People who can see auras 
tell me 
 they can see big changes  when people go for darshan. But the hug 
isn’t the main 
 thing.  It’s the overall transformation that Amma seems to 
inspire in people.  
 Methinks you a bit sensitive, Rick, for one who is responsible for  
a 
 100-odd page file of allegations against MMY and countless  posts 
in 
 which you accuse him of sexual improprieties (all from  heresay, 
mind 
 you) 
 Not heresay for me, since I spoke  with a couple of the ladies. 
 when I point out the obvious shallowness  and, yes, materialism 
 of Amma. 
 Obvious to you. You didn’t  answer my previous question. Have you 
ever met 
 her in person? Do  you live in Toronto? She’ll be there this 
summer. Probably I 
  will too. Would love to meet you.
 
 And, yes, values are  relative, as you say. The little (your 
word, 
 not mine) that  Amma and her organizational system gives pales in 
 comparison to the  not billions but trillions of dollars provided 
by 
 another  organizational system:, the U.S. government in social 
 programs and  international aid. 
 True, but she makes a difference in areas where no  one else is 
helping or 
 their help is inadequate. Tsunami relief  (she’s done much more, 
more quickly, 
 than the Indian  Government), pension funds for widows, a program 
to reduce 
  suicides by Kerala farmers in debt to loan sharks. More here: 
 __http://amma.http://amma._ (http://amma.http://amma.) 
_WBRhttp://amma.WBRhttp://a_ (wbrhttp://amma.http://amm_)  
  (_http://amma.http://amma.WBRhttp://amma.http://amm_ 
(http://amma.org/humanitarian-activities/index.html) )  . And these 
efforts are twofold. Seva helps the people helping as 
  much as it helps the helped. 
 But, gee, I seem to recall that 
  every chance you get, Rick, you bad mouth the U.S. 
 I do? I don’t  think so. Find a post where I’ve done that. 
 In Rick's defense I  have been on the forum for three months and 
never heard 
 Rick  badmouth America. If anything, i think Rick has been humble 
with the  
 challenges that have been forced onto him by the TMO. And may I  
add many thanks 
 to Rick for providing a forum of free speech  which MMY has not 
supported. 
 Ammachi seems very sincere in her  work. I have witnessed several 
saints from 
 India and she just's  hugs and hugs without any complaining. Her 
service to 
 humanity is  most impressive. I haven't seen the DVD yet. I am not 
one to give my  
 whole life up for the Guru and renounce everything for someone  
else but the 
 world needs more love and Ammachi is providing it  regardless if 
her followers 
 are making a sports game out of it or  not. Our main concern as 
spiritual 
 leaders of the world is to  choose leaders that are filled with 
wisdom and concern 
 for  mankind. The Goddess seems to be fulfilling that desire and it 
is so  
 wonderful to watch Mother Divine do her work without asking for  
anything in 
 return. Love and Light. Lou Valentino or  Lsoma.

Your ability to hug and/or love effectively is based upon your  level 
of consciousness. That USED to be Maharishi's message (he's more  
into selling peanut butter today). But I think that's the most  
appropriate response to what you write above.

Hey, by all means go  out and love the world to death. All you need 
is love? Nope. The road to  hell is paved with good intentions and 
good intentions get fulfilled more  and faster the more your 
consciousness is developed.

Waiting in  line for 7 hours to get darshan from some Indian peasant 
no matter how  enlightened she is and no matter how many soup kitchens 
she opens isn't  going to develop

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can TM, Buddhism, and Advaita be merged into one enti...

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/13/2007 1:19:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
--Who are the Pleidians and what evidence do you have of their  
existence? Don't live in outer space!! 
 I don't need evidence of their existence. I AM A PLEIADIAN regardless  of 
the evidence. That is why i don't need any evidence. The Pleiadians are  from 
the 4th and fifth levels of the sixth dimension. So, I am living on earth  as a 
Pleadian and not in outer space. Love and Light. Lsoma

- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) , 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 In a message dated 4/12/2007  10:11:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
 
 
 
 Not my ideathey already are, 1. TM as  a Movement, using (as a 
 remnant of Hinduism) the Holy Tradition  puja; but not as a 
strong 
 religious ideology. The SBAL and BG  would be sufficient adjuncts.
 In the context of this possible fusion  into one Great Tradition 
 (Adi Da's term - Wilber has a similar term  for the whole unified 
body 
 of Monist Sadhanas which form an  integral part of Buddhism and 
 Saivite Hinduism); TM could easily be  practiced by Buddhists 
without 
 compromising their philosophical  orientation.
 
 2. Next, Advaita, i.e. Neo-Advaita since (1.)  emerged from the 
 Advaita Vedanta of Shankara and is thus Advaita; but  in recent 
 decades, dozens of self-styled teachers and  
spontaneously Awakened 
 persons have come out of the wood work;  many being oriented to 
Ramana 
 Maharshi: if not outright devotees  of R.M. then at least 
influenced 
 by him, for example: Eckhart  Tolle. 
 If one could venture to compare the total Power of this  
influential 
 group, vis a vis the remnant of the TM Movement;  well...it's 
safe 
 to say that the TMO is a walking corpse, not  knowing it's already 
a 
 zombie, half-way in the grave. But no  matter. Though as a Movement 
TM 
 will perhaps fizzle out in our  lifetimes; countless people will be 
 practicing it in a forthcoming  true Age of Enlightenment practi
 will undoubtedly include  hordes of Buddhists.
 
 3. Third, as mentioned above, Buddhism  can easily adopt TM as a 
 technique (and I predict, will do so on a  wholesale basis when 
 circumstances are right).
 
 Thus,  the 3 Movements mentioned above can be merged into one 
 morphogenetic  field, with a complementary mix of diverse energies; 
 all oriented  toward the Monist philosophical viewpoint, but adding 
 some additional  evolutionary benefits from Buddhism - namely, the 
 Rainbow Light Body.  This can be thought of as the ultimate goal of 
 our biological  evolution.
 
 Using Venn diagrams (as another contributor  suggested), we have 3 
 circles which overlap: Circles A, B, and C.  Thus, A intersects B 
 intersects C. We can map prime numbers on each  circle, say 2, 3, 
and 
 5.. The intersecting area = the product of  any of the primes.
 
 Of course, the central area = the full  unification of all 3 
 Traditions: 2 * 3 * 5 = 30.
 
 How  about partial unifications: Say TM + Buddhism. Sure!! This 
will 
  occur some day, I predict. Not real soon, some day in the future.
 The  possibilities with 3 entities, taken 2 at a time are:
 Say TM = 2,  Advaita = 3 and Buddhism = 5:
 1. TM + Advaita = 2 * 3 = 6
 2.  TM + Buddhism = 2 * 5 = 10
 3. Advaita + Buddhism = 3 * 5 = 15.
  
 Hope you will be there for the true Age of Enlightenment Hope you wil
will
 definitely not in it now, contrary to what MMY would have  us 
 believe. There's a lot more work to do.
 
 To  conclude, TM can be merged with Advaita and Buddhism to form 
one 
  larger hologram having a certain degree of diversity to make 
things  
 spicey. But essentially, this will become the Great Tradition  
Adi 
 Da and Wilber talk about under the guise of various labels.  The 
 essential ingredient is non-dualism, common to the 3 traditions  
which 
 are artificially separate at this time. 
 In decades  to come, the 3 entities will fuse, and over the 
centuries, 
 will  gradually displace the dualist Monotheistic religions. 
Bravo! 
  Can't wait. 
  The Hindus will never merge Buddhism with TM. The  real changes 
come 
 worlwide when other races such as the  Pleiadian's educate us about 
their lifestyle. 
 All religions  including Buddhism will parish over the next six 
years. Most 
 of  the leaders including the Dalai Lama are not willing to give up 
their hold  
 on their own thought forms in order to completely surrender to the  
now. MMY 
 and many other leaders are not willing to work together.  Terrorist 
work much 
 better together than spiritual or religious  organizations. Man has 
created a 
 mind that runs like a machine.  As long as he keeps the machine 
tuned up 
 through constant  absorption of doctrine passed on from the past he 
will continue to  
 grow in his own self made egoic experience of a false sense of  
self. Who 
 cares what religion you belong to or what non-dual  philosophy you 
follow. We 
 can't even get the majority

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can TM, Buddhism, and Advaita be merged into one enti...

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/13/2007 2:50:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
From: FairfieldLife@ FairfieldLi FairfieldLife@WBRyahoogr FairfieldLife@ 
FairOn Behalf Of  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 12:59  PM
To: FairfieldLife@ FairfieldLi Fa
Subject:  Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can TM, Buddhism, and Advaita be merged 
into one  enti...

 
 
 
 
 
In a message  dated 4/13/2007 1:19:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a message  

 
 
 
--Who are the Pleidians and  what evidence do you have of their 
existence? Don't live in outer  space!! 
 I don't need evidence of  their existence. I AM A PLEIADIAN regardless of 
the evidence. That is why i  don't need any evidence. The Pleiadians are from 
the 4th and fifth levels of  the sixth dimension. So, I am living on earth as a 
Pleadian and not in outer  space. Love and Light. Lsoma 
Just out of curiosity, and  if it doesn't exceed your quota, how do you know 
that? 
Hello Rick. How do we  know about experiences of our life. People can 
ask-How do you know your  transcending? Well, it feels like I've gone beyond 
the 
excitation of thought  and deep into a quiet space within myself. For those who 
are volunteers they  are aware of it through life's experiences mostly. The 
confirmation has come  from Lord Ashtar in a reading through Michael el Legion 
in 
1986, also a  seventh dimensional master named D'Hartma in 1999 and currently 
from Saint  Anthony who is also a seventh dimensional teacher within the last 
year.  Saint Anthony has told me that MMY will pass over in July or August of 
this  year so this should be interesting to see if that is true. Not 
everything he  say's comes true when it comes to future events. Lord Ashtar 
told me as 
he  was looking at a picture of me that those who are truly volunteers or ex  
terrestrials will have some gold in the aura field and depending on how much  
service they have done will show the amount of gold. He said I had a lot of  
gold in my aura and that I was from the original core group of 144,000. As  
many of you know it really doesn't matter what labels we wear. God knows we  
hear so many labels from the TMO. Governors of the Age of Enlightenment.  There 
are so many people I have met along the way who don't even meditate  who are 
gifted with abilities that I don't have. But I do care so much that  humanity 
will want to go the distance in this lifetime to create world  peace. Maharishi 
has been so helpful to all of us in having some  understanding of the nature 
of higher states of cons. The lack of motivation  for humans to want world 
peace and the extreme amount of loneliness even  while in relationships that I 
feel has brought me to the conclusion that I  miss my spiritual family from the 
sixth dimension. As Saint Anthony has told  me  Why you chose to come back to 
earth is beyond me. My reply, I can't  give up on the hundreds of lifetimes 
that I have invested in wanting to  create some joy here. I feel very strongly 
that the next few years everyone  will have an intimate contact with other 
races from above and will help us  to get to the next step in the divine plan. 
But for now we can only keep on  doing our best to pray, meditate, chant and 
keep asking for blessings from  above. We can also help our brothers and 
sisters 
along the way with little  things like a smile, opening the door at the post 
office for someone who has  their hands full, take a friend out for lunch 
periodically, offer council to  someone who is having a rough time, etc. It is 
the 
little things that count  most. The labels like Avatar, Governor, Volunteer 
are insignificant compared  to the absolute. Love and Light. Lsoma. I think 
that 
meets my quota for the  day. Thanks  Rick.










 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can TM, Buddhism, and Advaita be merged into one enti...

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/13/2007 6:46:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
--Question: what level of credibility to you award these seers' and  
why? Do you believe everything that channels say just because they  
claim to be channeling? Can they predict the stock market?
What are the  special abilities of Pleidians and how do these people 
differ from  ordinary people? Are they psychic? Are they adept in 
some special  skills?
If not, why be a Pleidian?
Thanks.  
Pleiadian's are not interested in the stock market. They are interested  in 
serving divine love. In creating a non-violent environment. They differ  from 
ordinary people in the sense that they are more interested in connecting  with 
inner source and educating planet earth about connecting more with that  
source. They work two hours a day.The average age is 300 to 1,000 years old.  
There are no health problems in their culture and live on light by walking  
into 
the light which is absorbed by their bodies. They also eat vegetables.  
Children are their greatest asset. They communicate telepathically so their is  
no 
need for different languages. When they have sex with others they are  mostly 
concerned with the upper chakras and use the lower three for generating  energy 
for a neuropsychological climax. It is 100 times more expansive then  the 
genital climax. I still experience life here as you do. I left my light  body 
in 
storage so I could live in a physical body. My memories of Pleiadian  culture 
are still intact and I am able to receive some information if I want  to. I 
hope this answers some of your questions and I hope I didn't go over my  quota 
for today. Love and Light. Lsoma.

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 In a message dated 4/13/2007 2:50:50  P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
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 From:  FairfieldLife@ FairfieldLi FairfieldLife@WBRyahoogr  
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 FairOn Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday,  April 13, 2007 12:59 PM
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merged  
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 In a message dated 4/13/2007 1:19:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] a message 
 
 
 
 
  --Who are the Pleidians and what evidence do you have of their 
  existence? Don't live in outer space!! 
  I don't need evidence of  their existence. I AM A PLEIADIAN 
regardless of 
 the evidence.  That is why i don't need any evidence. The 
Pleiadians are from 
  the 4th and fifth levels of the sixth dimension. So, I am living 
on earth  as a 
 Pleadian and not in outer space. Love and Light. Lsoma 
  Just out of curiosity, and if it doesn't exceed your quota, how do 
you  know 
 that? 
 Hello Rick. How do we know about experiences  of our life. People 
can 
 ask-How do you know your transcending?  Well, it feels like I've 
gone beyond the 
 excitation of thought  and deep into a quiet space within myself. 
For those who 
 are  volunteers they are aware of it through life's experiences 
mostly. The  
 confirmation has come from Lord Ashtar in a reading through  
Michael el Legion in 
 1986, also a seventh dimensional master  named D'Hartma in 1999 and 
currently 
 from Saint Anthony who is  also a seventh dimensional teacher 
within the last 
 year. Saint  Anthony has told me that MMY will pass over in July or 
August of 
  this year so this should be interesting to see if that is true. 
Not  
 everything he say's comes true when it comes to future events.  
Lord Ashtar told me as 
 he was looking at a picture of me that  those who are truly 
volunteers or ex 
 terrestrials will have some  gold in the aura field and depending on 
how much 
 service they  have done will show the amount of gold. He said I had 
a lot of 
  gold in my aura and that I was from the original core group of 
144,000. As  
 many of you know it really doesn't matter what labels we wear. God  
knows we 
 hear so many labels from the TMO. Governors of the Age  of 
Enlightenment. There 
 are so many people I have met along the  way who don't even 
meditate who are 
 gifted with abilities that I  don't have. But I do care so much 
that humanity 
 will want to go  the distance in this lifetime to create world 
peace. Maharishi 
  has been so helpful to all of us in having some understanding of 
the  nature 
 of higher states of cons. The lack of motivation for humans to  
want world 
 peace and the extreme amount of loneliness even while  in 
relationships that I 
 feel has brought me to the conclusion  that I miss my spiritual 
family from the 
 sixth dimension. As  Saint Anthony has told me  Why you chose to 
come back to 
 earth  is beyond me. My reply, I can't give up on the hundreds of 
lifetimes  
 that I have invested in wanting to create some joy here. I feel  
very strongly 
 that the next few years everyone will have an  intimate contact 
with other

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma's sex scandal

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/12/2007 2:21:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
,  Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 On Apr  12, 2007, at 11:31 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
 
  Values are  relative. You are more offended by organizational 
systems 
   being applied to enable someone to give as much as possible, 
however  
  little, to as many as possible than you are by a spiritual  
teacher 
  using his power and charisma to indulge his personal  cravings for 
sex 
  and money.
 
 I really doubt  Shemp objects to the money part.

I wouldn't begrudge him the money part  or the sex part (to each his 
own) if the World Plan was actually being  implemented. But, alas, 
virtually no one is starting TM these days...more  people seem to be 
flocking to get hugged by Guiness Book of Records hungry  publicity 
hounds...and that's the real tragedy. 
The real tragedy is that the TMO is so bent on doing it their way it  turned 
everyone off so they decided to find a way to grow spiritually without  all of 
the fundamentalist guidelines that the organization has in order to  create a 
superiority complex around the idea that they are protecting the  teaching. 
After all these years of losing thousands of people to Ammachi,  Mother Meera, 
SSRS or whoever they still don't get it. They will go to the  ends after MMY 
dies to protect an ideology and teaching while the world blows  itself up. 
There are many people including myself who are not going to wait  around for 
the 
Governors of the Age of Enlightenment to save the world since  the respect for 
its own people has been ignored. There are many teachers in  the world and 
many groups in Fairfield, Iowa that can provide a more relaxed  approach and 
make 
everyone feel welcome. I think MMY is the greatest  meditation teacher in the 
world but he lacks a caring heart for his people. Or  maybe he just cares 
about those who want to do it his way or in his mind the  only way. Love and 
Light. Lsoma.

 
  To each his  own.



 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma's sex scandal

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/12/2007 2:48:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
From: FairfieldLife@ FairfieldLi FairfieldLife@WBRyahoogr FairfieldLife@ 
FairOn Behalf Of  shempmcgurk
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 1:18 PM
To:  FairfieldLife@  Fairfie  
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re:  Amma's sex scandal

 
 
 
 
 Values are relative. You are more offended by organizational  
systems being
 applied to enable someone to give as much as  possible, however 
 little,

A 3-second hug in order to break  some record. 
I don’t remember noticing  that on the Darshan DVD, but I assure you that Amma
’s primary motivation is  not record-breaking. She did sit there for 24 hours 
straight on that occasion.  The thing I noticed was the amazing look on her 
face as she came down the  stairs after that stint. 
I've never held back my criticism of the TMO on this forum, as you  
know. But, as I've said countless times, whomever MMY may or may not  
be didling doesn't change whether the TM technique works. It does. 

Does hugging by a guru work? Let's see the research on it. 
I suppose you could measure  brain waves. People who can see auras tell me 
they can see big changes when  people go for darshan. But the hug isn’t the 
main 
thing. It’s the overall  transformation that Amma seems to inspire in people. 
Methinks you a bit sensitive, Rick, for one who is responsible for a  
100-odd page file of allegations against MMY and countless posts in  
which you accuse him of sexual improprieties (all from heresay, mind  
you)  
Not heresay for me, since I  spoke with a couple of the ladies. 
when I point out the obvious shallowness and, yes, materialism 
of  Amma. 
Obvious to you. You didn’t  answer my previous question. Have you ever met 
her in person? Do you live in  Toronto? She’ll be there this summer. Probably I 
will too. Would love to meet  you.

And, yes, values are relative, as you say. The little  (your word, 
not mine) that Amma and her organisational system gives  pales in 
comparison to the not billions but trillions of dollars provided  by 
another organisational system:, the U.S. government in social  
programs and international aid.  
True, but she makes a  difference in areas where no one else is helping or 
their help is inadequate.  Tsunami relief (she’s done much more, more quickly, 
than the Indian  Government), pension funds for widows, a program to reduce 
suicides by Kerala  farmers in debt to loan sharks. More here: 
_http://amma.http://amma.WBRhttp://amma.http://amm_ 
(http://amma.org/humanitarian-activities/index.html) .  And these efforts are 
twofold. Seva helps the people helping as 
much as it  helps the helped. 
But, gee, I seem to recall that 
every chance you get, Rick, you bad  mouth the U.S. 
I do? I don’t think so. Find  a post where I’ve done that. 
In Rick's defense I have been  on the forum for three months and never heard 
Rick badmouth America. If  anything, i think Rick has been humble with the 
challenges that have been  forced onto him by the TMO. And may I add many 
thanks 
to Rick for providing a  forum of free speech which MMY has not supported. 
Ammachi seems very sincere  in her work. I have witnessed several saints from 
India and she just's hugs  and hugs without any complaining. Her service to 
humanity is most impressive.  I haven't seen the DVD yet. I am not one to give 
my 
whole life up for the Guru  and renounce everything for someone else but the 
world needs more love  and Ammachi is providing it regardless if her followers 
are making a sports  game out of it or not. Our main concern as spiritual 
leaders of the world is  to choose leaders that are filled with wisdom and 
concern 
for mankind. The  Goddess seems to be fulfilling that desire and it is so 
wonderful to watch  Mother Divine do her work without asking for anything in 
return. Love and  Light. Lou Valentino or Lsoma.





 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] The D Word

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/11/2007 10:27:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
 
 
I’ve heard  MMY go both ways on the doubt issue. In the earlier days, such as 
Poland  Spring and Mallorca, he said to get up on the mike and express your 
doubts –  not suppress them and assume they are resolved. Later on, he referred 
to doubt  as a dry rot and said it was better to doubt the doubts. This was 
said with  reference to one’s experiences, but it also seems to have applied to 
doubts  about the Movement. A few years ago at least half a dozen MUM faculty 
were  purged for somewhat too free in their thinking, expressing doubts about 
 policies and procedures. 


 



 Rick, I recently spoke with a close friend of Dr. David Orme Johnson.  He 
was told to leave
the faculty. His friend did not know for what reasons. This is just another  
example of why
you and others have moved on to other ways of continuing your spiritual  
journey and at the 
same time still hanging on to some respect for MMY and what he gave to us.  
The reason why
I am mentioning it is the information seems to connect with your  information 
posted. Lsoma.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] to Rick

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/8/2007 6:26:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
From: FairfieldLife@ FairfieldLi FairfieldLife@WBRyahoogr FairfieldLife@ 
FairOn Behalf Of  t3rinity
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 4:23 PM
To:  FairfieldLife@  Fairfie  
Subject: [FairfieldLife] to  Rick

 
 
 
Hi Rick, I just came across this page 
_http://www.amma-http://wwwhttp_ (http://www.amma-fairfield.org/) 
There's  a broken Link, where it says 'you can write Amma directly'
_http://www.amritapuhttp://www.amrithttp://www.http://www.htt_ 
(http://www.amritapuri.org/sevadesk/mailma.htm%20br%20/) 
Maybe  wonna fix it.

The Banner with Amma in front of snow clad mountains  reminds me of
some old Maharishi poster used for Nepal. Just an idea: Amma  is very
small on this photo, you could move her to the right side, and  make
part of her extend into the side navigation, by slicing the pic  up
into two parts (as they did in at the official  page).


Thanks. I’ll pass this on to  the webmaster. 


 


 Dear Rick, 
 
Thank you for the information on Ammachi. In regards to her meditation  
technique- Do you meditate with a mantra? How are mantras selected? I choose  
bija 
mantras from the birthchart when I teach AstroVedic
Meditation. I wish my house would sell so I could move to Fairfield and be  
with you and others more. July 7, 2007 is a perfect time to be with her as the  
number 7 is the spiritual master number and the seventh dimension where one 
is  fully in GC. Since it is all sevens and Pluto is near conjunction to the  
galactic center July is going to be a very interesting month. Saint Anthony  
tells me that Ammachi is moving from the upper fifth dimension into the  
beginning of the sixth. When MMY passes over in July or August he will be in 
the  
third level of the fifth. Hence, the reason why Ammachi is much more heart  
centered and less concerned with guidelines and structure.Guru Dev is in the  
beginning levels of the sixth. Love and Light. Lou  Valentino



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Emissions Already Affecting Climate, Report Finds

[Lsoma]

, China and other  
areas like Mexico. Our two biggest problems for humanity over the next three  
years is the environment and terrorism. The economy is not going in the right  
direction either so it looks like we will need help from other races from other 
 dimensions who are more technologically advanced than us to help with this  
rehabilitation of environmental pollution. Just a few thoughts. Love and 
Light.  Lsoma.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Out of touch with reality to a degree that is scary

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 4/1/2007 5:50:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Dr. Feldman  concluded, With over six million practitioners 
  around the  world, it will be very easy to have one million 
  subscribers  purchase the phones and subscribe to the plan.
 
 And this  coming from the people who have to bribe 
 poor young kids from India  into becoming pundits 
 and export them to Iowa like products in an  attempt 
 to get 2000 people together in one place to save the 
  world. They can't achieve the numbers any other way
 even when they  offer to pay people to go there.
 
 I'd have to say that the  quote above, in conjunction
 with a product that almost no one can  afford and that
 even fewer would even WANT, indicates a level of  being
 out of touch with reality that has crossed the border
  from eccentricity to insanity.
 
 Maybe saying stuff like this  is a kind of backasswards
 enforced bhakti. The only way one CAN be  comfortable 
 with stuff like this is turn off one's mind and critical  
 faculties altogether and believe it fully, without 
  reservation. If you don't surrender to it, you pretty
 much have to be  embarrassed by it. And since we all
 know that many people would rather  die than be embar-
 rassed, it works to keep them in line.
  
 I'd rather feel embarrassed. For them, and for myself
 for  ever having been part of such an organization. f

And if it IS an  April Fool's prank, as Card suggests,
well done. The essence of a good one  is to make it
believable. And after all of the other actions  and
announcements/announcements/WBRpronouncements of the TM


 


 It is scary. God have mercy on the TMO for using young boys who are  
desperate for an education and some food. With announcements in New York this  
week 
of their new found government and all, they have treaded down a path since  
1975 that only creates more bureaucracy and less love. MMY has completely lost  
his mind at this point. Very soon he will have no choice but to get out of his 
 own way and let the karma fall where it should. The billionaires and  
millionaires will not be able to save his movement let alone save the planet.  
Lsoma.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Court Case between TMO and the Norwegian Government

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 3/30/2007 10:49:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
 
 
 
From: Ingegerd Espås [mailto:iespas@ Ingegerd Espå
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 2:46 AM
To: Rick  Archer
Subject: Re: Court Case between TMO and the Norwegian  Government

 


 
Dear  Rick.
 
Yeasterday I received the  result from the Court Case between the TMO and the 
State in Norway regarding  that the TMO did want the Monopoly of the words 
Transcendental Meditation  and TM.
 

 
I was a wittness on behalf  of the State in Norway and I am happy to tell you 
that the TMO lost  regarding the Monopoly of the words Transcendental 
meditation and won the  Trademark of the words TM.
 

 
The Court says that  Transcendental Meditation is a description of a state of 
consciousness and  knowbody can own a description. They also lost because the 
TMO has not been  consistent in using the words Transcendental meditation. 
They have used  TM-Technique - TM-program - Deep meditation. Maharishis 
Techniques in books  and advertisements. The Court says also that it is a need 
to be 
free  regarding to compete activities as i (Ingegerd) do - in the papers it  is 
referred to my domene _www.transcendentalmwww.transcww_ 
(http://www.transcendentalmeditation.no/)   and that I teach in free time - 
because I have an other 
full time job too.  The TMO would not tell how many initiations they had done 
last year  -  I was open about how many I have teached. The TMO made a point 
of the  Agreement forms that the TM-Teachers has signed - so did I. The Court 
did  not consider that. The Court made a point that MMY is a very old man - 
and  after he die, who will be the owner of the TMO and all his  techniques.
 

 
The TMO tried to stop me  from being a wittness - they wrote a letter to the 
Court in forhand of the  Court Case and almost demanded the Court not to allow 
me to be a wittness.  Not a smart thing to do - I think.
 

 
In the Court Case - it was  really a difference between Ole Markman (The 
lawyer of the TMO - Danish  TM-Teacher - with no Carisma - pale and grey - 
talking 
the language of the  TMO - telling that I (Ingegerd) do not keep the 
knowledge pure - not easy to  understand for common people) and the Lawyer of 
the 
Norwegian Government, a  very smart man.
 

 
Some other Norwegian  teachers of Transcendental meditation is happy too - 
they are very  successfull in their teaching.
 

 
You are free to use this as  you like - send it to FFL if you want.
 

 
Ingegerd  Espås
 




 


Very interesting. Ingegerd Espas has spiritual courage. The judge has a  
very honest question to the TMO
 The Court made a point that MMY is a very old man - and after he die, who  
will be the owner of the TMO and all his techniques. Maybe the passing over of 
 MMY will make legal issues between the TMO and other
affiliates a very interesting time. The purity could slip right through  
their hands. God knows the purity of the teaching could use other places that 
it  
feels more comfortable growing in. Lsoma.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Court Case between TMO and the Norwegian Government

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 3/30/2007 11:18:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
You mean, Transcendental Meditation is not unique, to TM? Oh no, 
there  goes our true-believer TM paradigm. But, damn that scorpion 
Norwegian  court. Besides, they are just a bunch of Norwegians, what 
do they really  know about spiritual things? Natural law is our truth. 


-Governor for the A of E Hamilton in FF 
Please Hamilton. Natural law does not live in the TMO. I was told I  could 
not participate in the America Invincibility course because I am a  practicing 
astrologer and a certified Yoga teacher. They questinoned my love  for MMY in 
the name of the purity of the teaching. Maybe if some of the  teachers of TM 
would speak up about the conservative gueidlines for their  fellow Sidha's they 
would consider relaxing them. Most of the governors are  sneaking around the 
guidelines and lying to get into the dome or stay there.  The lack of 
spiritual courage among Governors is not acting in accordance with  natural 
law. If 
you want to be a true Governor you would have to be at least  honest with what 
is going on around you.  
Lou Valentino. Volunteer of the Intergalactic Confederation from the fourth  
level of the sixth dimension. How's that for a label. And yes, i  will support 
my fellow Sidha's, meditators and Governors who have been  judged unfairly by 
the Department for the Development of Consciousness. As the  world continues 
to blow itself up, this Department continues to make choices  that are not in 
alignment with Guru Dev. They may be in alignment with MMY but  it just goes 
to show that MMY may need some improvement in his own awareness  as to what is 
going on in his own back yard. 

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Ingegerd Espås  [mailto:iespas@ From
 Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 2:46 AM
  To: Rick Archer
 Subject: Re: Court Case between TMO and the Norwegian  Government
 
 
 
 
 
 Dear  Rick.
 
 Yeasterday I received the result from the Court Case  between the 
TMO and the
 State in Norway regarding that the TMO did  want the Monopoly of the 
words
 Transcendental Meditation and  TM.
 
 
 
 I was a wittness on behalf of the State  in Norway and I am happy to 
tell you
 that the TMO lost regarding  the Monopoly of the words Transcendental
 meditation and won the  Trademark of the words TM.
 
 
 
 The Court says  that Transcendental Meditation is a description of a 
state of
  consciousness and knowbody can own a description. They also lost 
because  the
 TMO has not been consistent in using the words Transcendental  
meditation.
 They have used TM-Technique - TM-program - Deep  meditation. 
Maharishis
 Techniques in books and advertisements. The  Court says also that it 
is a
 need to be free regarding to compete  activities as i (Ingegerd) do -
in the
 papers it is referred to my  domene www.transcendentalm papers it pa
and that
 I teach  in free time - because I have an other full time job too. 
The TMO
  would not tell how many initiations they had done last year - I 
was  open
 about how many I have teached. The TMO made a point of the  
Agreement forms
 that the TM-Teachers has signed - so did I. The  Court did not 
consider that.
 The Court made a point that MMY is a  very old man - and after he 
die, who
 will be the owner of the TMO  and all his techniques.
 
 
 
 The TMO tried to  stop me from being a wittness - they wrote a 
letter to the
 Court  in forhand of the Court Case and almost demanded the Court 
not to
  allow me to be a wittness. Not a smart thing to do - I think.
 
  
 
 In the Court Case - it was really a difference between Ole  Markman 
(The
 lawyer of the TMO - Danish TM-Teacher - with no  Carisma - pale and 
grey -
 talking the language of the TMO -  telling that I (Ingegerd) do not 
keep the
 knowledge pure - not  easy to understand for common people) and the 
Lawyer of
 the  Norwegian Government, a very smart man.
 
 
 
  Some other Norwegian teachers of Transcendental meditation is happy 
too  -
 they are very successfull in their teaching.
 
  
 
 You are free to use this as you like - send it to FFL if you  want.
 
 
 
 Ingegerd  Espås



 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Questions to, and answers from Benjaim Creme

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 3/30/2007 5:56:33 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 In a message dated 3/29/2007 3:28:43  P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   writes:
 
 
 
 
 --- In  _FairfieldLife@ --- In  _Fair
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) )  
 , Lsoma@ wrote:
 
  
  In a message  dated 3/29/2007 2:11:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED]@yahoogroupno_re_ 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) )  
writes:
  
  
  
  
   Questions  Answers
  
  Q. Is there any  specific date for Maitreya's appearance?
  A. Most people imagine  that world events (and the coming of a 
 World 
  Teacher is  certainly a world event) take place according to 
 precise 
   dates. They imagine that all Hierarchical decisions are designed 
  for 
  dates written in stone. This is assuredly not the case. The  
 Masters 
  predict certain happenings to take place around  a certain time 
but 
  They know that humanity has freewill and  therefore has an 
enormous 
  influence on the precise timing of  a given event. The Masters 
work 
 in 
  2,000 year  cycles, so for Them really precise timing is not a 
 major 
   consideration. No one knows the exact date on which Maitreya 
will  
  take up His open work but everyone can understand that it is  
very, 
  very soon. 
  Since Maitreya will not at  first reveal His name and status the 
 onus 
  is on each  one of us to recognize Him by what He says and does. 
In 
  this  way people will be recognizing the expression of their 
   aspiration for the future of humanity, rather than simply 
   following `The Teacher'.
  
  Q. Is it still expected  there will be a worldwide stock-market 
 crash 
  before  Maitreya's public emergence? 
  A. No, not necessarily, but the  economic movement of the world 
is 
  towards such a slump,  which would probably increase once 
Maitreya 
  starts His  public work. 
  
  Q. (1) Does the US administration  truly believe that Iran is 
 trying 
  to build a nuclear  weapon or do they just want to remove the 
 Iranian 
   president from power? 
  (2) Does the hypocrisy of trying to  pressure other nations into 
 not 
  creating their own  atomic weapons programme, while America has a 
  large nuclear  arsenal, not occur to those in power in the US 
   government?
  A. (1) Yes, I believe they do. (2) Presumably  not!
  
  Q. The US-backed Iraqi cabinet have approved a  new oil law that 
is 
  set to give foreign companies the  long-term contracts and safe 
 legal 
  framework they have  been waiting for, but which has rattled 
labour 
  unions and  international campaigners, who say oil production 
 should 
   remain in the hands of Iraqis. This means that Iraqi oil is up 
for  
  grabs †and Iraq is now forced to consider all tenders.  
  (1) Was Iraq pressured into agreeing to this bill? (2) If there  
 was 
  such pressure was it exerted by the USA to benefit  its own oil 
  companies? (3) Were other countries also involved?  
  (1) Yes. (2) Yes. (3) No.
  
  Q. If a new  Messiah comes does this mean that the end of the 
world 
 is  
  near?
  A. Maitreya is here, as the World Teacher. Is  this the end? On 
the 
  contrary †this is the beginning  of a new time for 
humanity. But 
 a 
  humanity  chastened and relieved of its illusions and 
 destructiveness. 
   For two thousand years, the Christian groups have taught this 
  account 
  of the return of the Christ, coming on a cloud in the  last days 
of 
  the world, the `end days'. This, I submit, is a  completely wrong 
  interpretation of Christian scriptures which  has distorted 
  Christians' expectations of the Christ's return.  The so-called 
 `end 
  times' are to do not with the end of  the world but with the end 
of 
  the Age of Pisces, inaugurated  by the Christ through Jesus 2,000 
  years ago. He promised to  return, at such a time as you think 
not 
 †
  to  inaugurate the new age, that of Aquarius. This time He has 
come 
   Himself to expand the teaching given through Jesus and to 
prepare  
 the 
  world for the Aquarian experience. 
   What we have to look forward to is not the end of the world, 
which  
  will not take place for millions of years ahead, but for the  
 creation 
  of a new civilisation based on higher and  truer spiritual values 
 than 
  were possible for humanity  at the time of Jesus. Jesus Himself, 
 now a 
  Master,  works with the Christ on a daily basis and will reform 
the 
   Christian churches and teaching, as His part in the Great Plan. 
   
  Q. We are asked, quite rightly, to tell as many people as we can  
  about the emergence of Maitreya. Do we refer to him as Maitreya,  
 or 
  the `World Teacher' or do we announce him as the  `Christ'? It 
 seems 
  vital that those carrying out this  task are `on the ball' as it 
 were, 
  so

Re: Tiring contributions: (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Questions to, and answers ...

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 3/30/2007 1:21:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
  





 

These kind of  elaborations remind me to the predicitions of reincarnation of 
Jesus in  order to save the world. They are hardly of any practical use and 
do contain  too many aspects, which cannot be proven and do only create a 
spirit of  dependence and powerlessness regarding one's own way of unfoldment. 
So I 
 basically agree to the commentator at the end of this endless  monolog.
 
It seems as if  there are also  people in this list in order to fill it with 
all kinds of misleading  and tedious indoctrinations. This makes it difficult 
to distinguish  upright essential and worth-while discussion points against 
prosy watering  downs.
 
Work of undercover  agents in order to thin out the interest of readers ? - 
One of the  charming ways to jam spiritual enhancement. We have to be alert  !
 

Hagen  






 I agree with you Hagelin. Thanks for the support. Lsoma.

 

 Questions  Answers
 
 Q. Is there any  specific date for Maitreya's appearance?
 A. Most people imagine that  world events (and the coming of a 
World 
 Teacher is certainly a  world event) take place according to 
precise 
 dates. They  imagine that all Hierarchical decisions are designed 
for 
  offensive to say that 
some 
 of the miracles are very amusing,  like gems popping out from under 
 someone's big toe.
 A. I  quite agree. When people come to know the Masters more 
closely 
  they will recognize that They are filled with the joy of life and 
  have an extraordinary and quick sense of humour. The inventiveness 
of  
 their imagination is one of the outstanding qualities of their  
 activity.   and so on and  on


Lsoma; with all due respect; do  you really want us to belive that 
you are communicating with archangels  ? 
What if you are being manipulated by your own grandiose ego  ?




 For the record. Human beings don't need to  wait for anyone form up above 
to save them or teach us how to love one  another. You tell me I'm the one who 
is egotistical. Maybe if you stop  sucking on the nipple of Benjamin Creame 
you could find out who you really  are stop attacking those who disagree with 
your chosen masters of pure love.  You love to use the FFL forum to promote 
your 
masters and then lead people  to Benjamin Creams website to recruit them. FFL 
should be a forum for  discussion on relevant topics of spirituality. Try to 
think outside of the  Maitreya box that he is trying to build around you. If 
you continue to judge  me you might want to ask Benjamin Creame about me. Tell 
him I am a volunteer  from the fourth level
of the sixth dimension. Maybe he can open your mind  up a bit. If not, I 
don't care about other peoples judgments regarding my  spiritual journey. To be 
frank, I'm so tired of so many people following so  many teachers and claiming 
to have the Avatar of the century. My message is  clear as a teacher: Stop 
looking for someone else to do it for you. You have  and always will have the 
power to change any situation that is manifesting  in the world or in your 
personal life. Anyone or any organization claiming  to have the power to change 
you 
without having any faith that you can stand  on your own feet is taking your 
self-empowerment away from you. There is too  much attention these days on 
who's 
Guru is going to save them and the  world.
I think I've make my point. And this information is  from me directly not an 
angel or guide or whatever. And, I never said that I  communicate with seven 
dimensional masters or archangels as you call them.  Some of the information I 
get is from other individuals who do soul  transfrerence readings. They are 
recommended to me highly by close friends.  Try to respond to some ot the 
information that I post instead of the need to  point the finger at me so 
quickly 
that your mind remains closed to anyone  elses story. Lsoma.




.
 
  





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Questions to, and answers from Benjaim Creme

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 3/30/2007 12:02:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
 
 
 
Tell him I am  a volunteer from the fourth level
 
of the sixth  dimension.  
---We  all have our weird shit. I was Aliester Crowley in my  
last  life. 
You sound  like Aliester Crowley. Lsoma.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Questions to, and answers from Benjaim Creme

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 3/30/2007 1:41:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 

Hey, wait a minute Lsoma; why so uptight ? Why do you want me to  
recognize Lord Ashtar, someone I have heard nothing about 0, ? He is  
probably a great soul !

I see that I hurt your feelings when I  pointed out that hardly any of 
your predictions for 2006 went through. I  am sorry about that, should 
never have made that comment though I was  correct and you were wrong. 
I think your predictions for 2007 looks much  better. We all have our 
ups and downs.

Regarding your hate  towards Maitreya I have no comments. Events 
will unfold itself in perfect  harmony. Some will think of Him as the 
great Satan, particularily amongst  the fundamentalistic population in 
every religion. 

Now just one  last comment before I refuse to answer any of your 
outbursts until you  actually read what Benjamin Creme writes, what 
you obviously have not  done; Jesus of Nasareth is not the Christ. The 
Christ, Iman Madhi, Krisha,  Maitreya Buddha, The Messiah and many of 
the Awaited is now in incarnation  having created a Mahavirupta body 
in the Himalayas and transported Himself  to London in 1977. His name 
is Maitreya. 13 of the 33 Masters have also  taken birth at this time. 
Brahmananda Saraswathi is currently not in  incarnation. Jesus of 
Nasareth is one of Them and is currently and for the  last 600 years 
residing in Italy. His particular interest, among many  other things, 
has been the Church i Latin America.

For TM'ers this  is hardly a surprise. Heaven will walk on earth - in 
this  generation.
-Maharishi

Don't be critical. Why not practise that  which you have said in 
former posts; we should all rather be working  together !

With the deepest respect for you and your work Lsoma  !
Nablusoss
 Yes. I did mention how different groups should meditate together or at  
least at the same time of day in the past. However, you said it was dangerous  
for people to meditate together according to Lord Meitreya. I appriciate your  
recognition that my 2007 predictions are on target. I know you think i'm  
egotistical but I am a volunteer from the sixth dimension. Therefore, my  
commitment to the inner core group of vounteers is very strong since the time  
is near 
for a visit from other races. There are 50,000 different races.  Spaceships 
will be landing not to save people but to educate the masses of how  the 
Pleidians live. It is the Pleideans that are most protective of planet  earth. 
Lord 
Ashstar is the leader of this massive evacuation if  nessassary or to implement 
a new way of living or us. MMY will pass over in  July or August which sets 
into motion a new energy matrix for the TMO. I  look forward to the new and 
more enlightening society that will dawn from  2008 to 2012. Good luck with 
your 
journey and I'm sure that everyone  will find their own way.  
Sincerely, 
Lou Valentino 

Q. Why, if Maitreya appears before 600 or even  more people at a 
meeting of a religious group in Britain ¯ as in Edinburgh  and York 
¯ do we see nothing about it in the media?

BC: The people  before whom he appears are in every case 
fundamentalist Christians of one  persuasion or another; 
denominationally they vary tremendously, but the  consistent factor is 
that they are all extremely dogmatic in their  beliefs. Maitreya 
appears to them to `soften them up.' These are the  groups from whom, 
throughout the world, he expects the major opposition  and rejection. 
If he appears as the World Teacher and they are expecting  the Teacher 
in their own terms ¯ as the Christ, Maitreya Buddha, Krishna,  the 
Imam Mahdi, the Messiah ¯ with their very fixed views they would be  
inclined to reject him. 

The most important thing is the creation  of the healing waters, which 
is done first. When Maitreya has magnetized  the waters, in due course 
¯ it might take a few weeks ¯ he finds a group  of fundamentalists 
in a town nearby and appears before them. He speaks to  them in their 
own language and many healings take place during the  process. He does 
not say: I am Maitreya; I am the Christ; or I am the  Imam 
Mahdi, he just appears, out of the blue but in a form which they  
will recognize ¯ as he did in Nairobi in Kenya, on 11 June 1988, an  
appearance of which we have photographs. 

Maitreya leaves it to the  groups, in the thoughtform in which he has 
appeared to them, to recognize  him or not. Some of them will 
say: Beware, it could be the anti-christ:  before the Christ comes, 
the anti-christ is coming. That is why they do  not speak out, and if 
they do not speak the media does not speak.  Occasionally at these 
meetings there have been representatives of  religious newspapers who 
do not write about it. Why not? I think they do  not know what to do 
with this information: it is too `hot.' 

Either  they believe it is the Christ or they believe it is the anti-
christ; or  they are mystified because he has

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's Speech on Raam Navami - with photos from the ...

[Lsoma]

 
In a message dated 3/29/2007 11:25:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
 
 
 
I’ll post the  photos to the photos section when I get a chance.

 
Maharishi on the day of Raam Navami,  27.3.2007
 

 

 
Today, having  invoked the administration of Raja Raam in every country, 
having performed  Puja here is symbolic of Puja of Raam Raj, the administration 
of 
Raja Raam in  every country of our world family. Whatever everyone does, 
everyone does from  his inner thinking. And fortunately we have been given the 
key 
of inner  thinking; how to think from inside, how to think from the 
transcendental  self-referral consciousness. We got the key from Guru Dev. We 
distributed the  key to the people of the world family, all countries; more 
than 
hundred  countries.
 

 
And today we  feel confident that the people everywhere are enough in number 
to have this  majestic thinking, this royal thinking from within, from the 
field of lively  presence of Raja Raam.
 

 
Raam Brahm  Paramat Rupa. Raam is pure spirituality, pure knowledge, pure 
self-referral  intelligence, which in this generation - Dr. Hagelin tells me - 
has been  discovered through the technology of all physical sciences in terms 
of 
unified  field. Unified field is concentrated field of intelligence, 
concentrated field  of knowledge, where pure knowledge is endowed with pure 
organizing 
power,  capable of organizing the ever-expanding universe. All diversity of 
the  ever-expanding universe is governed from that level which is eternally  
self-referral. Investigated and discovered through the approach of modern  
science in terms of the unified field. And we have in our world family the  
champion of that highly divine, pure intelligence which is on its own level  
infinite 
Being, pure creativity, total organizing power of Natural Law, the  
Constitution of the Universe, which has been there in the awareness of the  
Vedic 
Pandits of India since time immemorial in terms of  Ved.
 

 
Ved is lively  today as it is lively in every time whatever the time of the 
day and night,  whatever the time of the year, whatever time of any age. It's 
lively, it is  eternally functioning, ordering the activity of the galactic 
universe from  within. That within is the secret word. The key is turned 
within. It's a  turn-key operation. You think and think from within; think from 
transcendental  consciousness, which is the field of the Unified Field in 
modern 
terms, the  field of Yog in the ancient terminology, the field of Ved, 
inscribed in terms  of Vedic expression.
 

 
Ved is  traditionally maintained in the oral tradition by the Vedic Pandits. 
And today  we are invoking Ved, we are invoking Unified Field and we are 
raising the flag  of the administration of the Unified Field throughout our 
family 
of nations.  In all the 192 countries we are proud of raising the flag of Raam 
Raj, the  kingdom of Raam, the kingdom of  Raam Brahm Paramat Rupa, kingdom 
of pure  spirituality, pure self-referral creative intelligence, pure Being,  
transcendental field, where Ved, the Constitution of the Universe, is ever  
fresh. In the field of the unmanifest, Unified Field. Mathematically drawn in  
the equations of the Unified Field, orally recited by those fortunate born on  
the family of Vedic traditions.
 

 
From today  the flag of Raam Raj, in every country, will influence successful 
operation of  every government, no matter what is the constitution of any 
country. The  Constitution of the Universe, triggered by the inner thinking of 
some people  in every country, practising Transcendental Meditation, its 
advanced  techniques and Yogic Flying.
 

 
The programme  is with us and that is why we have a natural desire, 
duty-bound, to play our  parental role for the well-being and happiness of 
every 
individual in our  world family and every nation in our family of  nations.
 

 
Today,  invoking that spirit of eternal freedom, invincibility, integration, 
all  positivity on the level of national intelligence, we are opening the 
gates of  all peace, prosperity, self-sufficiency, freedom and invincibility of 
every  nation in the world.
 

 
It is our  great pride to express that the inner of everyone, which is always 
in action;  inner of everyone - mind, intellect, ego, self-referral Atma, the 
inner of  everyone, which is bliss in nature. And we have the technique of 
that bliss to  become blissful through practise.
 

 
So today is  the day, as have been many days in the past months, past years, 
we had been  wanting to raise the flag of the kingdom of Raam, Raja Raam, in 
every country.  But now, after all these 50 years in the world, desiring for 
this day, we  found this day has come to us. And today having done Puja to Guru 
Dev, having  done Puja to Guru Dev, we say to Guru Dev that your grace, your 
blessings,  your confidence in us, we are offering to your lotus feet and from 
there we  are desiring 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Questions to, and answers from Benjaim Creme

[Lsoma]

. There is an increase 
in UFO  activity in many parts of the world. This will continue on an 
increasing  scale up to and beyond the Emergence of Maitreya into the 
open. 

Q.  I keep hearing recently about `citizen journalism' 
or `participatory  journalism' which seems to be about using the 
Internet, blogging and  mobile phones to record events. Do you think 
this is a significant  development with regard to `people power'? Is 
it a vote of no confidence  in mainstream media? Is it the basis for a 
network of activists? 
A. At  the moment it is only an expression of general participation in 
the  growing communication technology. Eventually it will be a very 
useful way  for people to co-operate and act together in a 
demonstration of `people  power'.

Q. One of the most surprising facts I've learned from reading  Share 
International is that Maitreya and the Masters seem to have a  
wonderful sense of humour. This makes Them more real and closer,  
somehow. I hope it is not disrespectful or offensive to say that some  
of the miracles are very amusing, like gems popping out from under  
someone's big toe.
A. I quite agree. When people come to know the  Masters more closely 
they will recognize that They are filled with the joy  of life and 
have an extraordinary and quick sense of humour. The  inventiveness of 
their imagination is one of the outstanding qualities of  their 
activity. 

for more information, please see: _http://www.shareinthttp:_ 
(http://www.shareintl.org/) 

Jai  Guru Dev


 


 You may want to read some of the information on Lord Ashtar as well.  
Sister Tuella wrote a book called
Project: World Evacuation. When I asked archangel Ariel who resides in the  
upper seventh dimension if
Matreiya is a world savior or Avatar his reply was  He is more like a  world 
manipulator. I will be asking
Saint Anthony soon who also is from the seventh dimension about Matreiya. I  
will post the information when
it becomes available. Also, coming soon on my website will be question and  
answer forum. Jai Guru Dev
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Questions to, and answers from Benjaim Creme

[Lsoma]

 to these  groups 
it 
 makes sense to use the terms they understand. They all  refer to 
the 
 World Teacher for one humanity. 
 
 Q.  There seems, from all Internet and general media reports, to be 
a 
  lot of UFO activity over Latin American countries. Why is there so 
  much UFO activity there?
 A. Actually it is not confined to Latin  America. There is an 
increase 
 in UFO activity in many parts of  the world. This will continue on 
an 
 increasing scale up to and  beyond the Emergence of Maitreya into 
the 
 open. 
 
  Q. I keep hearing recently about `citizen journalism' 
 or  `participatory journalism' which seems to be about using the 
  Internet, blogging and mobile phones to record events. Do you 
think  
 this is a significant development with regard to `people power'?  
Is 
 it a vote of no confidence in mainstream media? Is it the  basis 
for a 
 network of activists? 
 A. At the moment it is  only an expression of general participation 
in 
 the growing  communication technology. Eventually it will be a very 
 useful way for  people to co-operate and act together in a 
 demonstration of `people  power'.
 
 Q. One of the most surprising facts I've learned from  reading 
Share 
 International is that Maitreya and the Masters seem  to have a 
 wonderful sense of humour. This makes Them more real and  closer, 
 somehow. I hope it is not disrespectful or offensive to say  that 
some 
 of the miracles are very amusing, like gems popping out  from under 
 someone's big toe.
 A. I quite agree. When people  come to know the Masters more 
closely 
 they will recognize that  They are filled with the joy of life and 
 have an extraordinary and  quick sense of humour. The inventiveness 
of 
 their imagination is  one of the outstanding qualities of their 
 activity. 
 
  for more information, please see: __http://www.shareinthttp:/_ 
(http://www.shareinthttp:_/)  
  (_http://www.shareinthttp:/_ (http://www.shareintl.org/) ) 
  
 Jai Guru Dev
 
 
 
 
 
   You may want to read some of the information on Lord Ashtar as 
well.  
 Sister Tuella wrote a book called
 Project: World Evacuation.  When I asked archangel Ariel who resides 
in the 
 upper seventh  dimension if
 Matreiya is a world savior or Avatar his reply was  He  is more 
like a world 
 manipulator manipulatorWBR
  Saint Anthony soon who also is from the seventh dimension about 
Matreiya.  I 
 will post the information when
 it becomes available. Also,  coming soon on my website will be 
question and 
 answer forum. Jai  Guru Dev
 Lsoma.

Lsoma; with all due respect; do you really want  us to belive that 
you are communicating with archangels ? 
What if you  are being manipulated by your own grandiose ego ?


 


 For the record. Human beings don't need to wait for anyone form up  above 
to save them or teach us how to love one another. You tell me I'm the one  who 
is egotistical. Maybe if you stop sucking on the nipple of Benjamin Creame  
you could find out who you really are stop attacking those who disagree with  
your chosen masters of pure love. You love to use the FFL forum to promote your 
 
masters and then lead people to Benjamin Creams website to recruit them. FFL  
should be a forum for discussion on relevant topics of spirituality. Try to  
think outside of the Maitreya box that he is trying to build around you. If 
you  continue to judge me you might want to ask Benjamin Creame about me. Tell 
him I  am a volunteer from the fourth level
of the sixth dimension. Maybe he can open your mind up a bit. If not, I  
don't care about other peoples judgments regarding my spiritual journey. To be  
frank, I'm so tired of so many people following so many teachers and claiming 
to 
 have the Avatar of the century. My message is clear as a teacher: Stop 
looking  for someone else to do it for you. You have and always will have the 
power 
to  change any situation that is manifesting in the world or in your personal 
life.  Anyone or any organization claiming to have the power to change you 
without  having any faith that you can stand on your own feet is taking your  
self-empowerment away from you. There is too much attention these days on who's 
 
Guru is going to save them and the world.
I think I've make my point. And this information is from me directly not an  
angel or guide or whatever. And, I never said that I communicate with seven  
dimensional masters or archangels as you call them. Some of the information I  
get is from other individuals who do soul transfrerence readings. They are  
recommended to me highly by close friends. Try to respond to some ot the  
information that I post instead of the need to point the finger at me so 
quickly  
that your mind remains closed to anyone elses story.  Lsoma.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Ben Collins hosting a great blog on vedic rituals

[Lsoma]

 of India. But, I am happy 
to 
donate  since India needs fixing up after a long dark cloud of Kala Yuga of 
5,000 years.  I predict that by 2026 their will be no need for rituals. It 
could 
happen much  sooner if we have an intergalactic intervension to educate the 
masses to value  silence above all rituals. Thisshift could happen within the 
next few years. Are  we ready? My newsletter for the spring of 2007 is up. Go 
to 
_Astrological Varieties_ (http://www.yogavisionaries.com/)  . It is  
free.Love and Light. Lsoma.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Prediction: Hagelin not long for TMO

[Lsoma]

 relationship with the TMO. As I have said in the past on the FFL,  it is 
when MMY passes over (July or August of 2007) that many top leaders will  have 
to 
draw a firm line.
Are you going to stay conservative or find a more open minded approach? 
 
As far as The Secret saving the world guess what- YOU NEED FERTILITY OF  
CONSIOUNESS TO MANIFEST ANYTHING. The most effective way to gain fertility  of 
consciousness is to bring the thinking mind to its most least exited state of  
awareness. TM does a wonderful job of this as well as the other techniques of  
those who have been followers of MMY and went off on their own. SSRS and 
Deepak.  We need to walk on two legs of spirituality. The conscious effort to 
visualize  and think a thought to manifest our desires to fulfillment and the 
subtle 
 infusion of energy by allowing the mind to experience subtler levels of the  
thinking process. By doing both these things you are more likely to fulfill 
the  promises that The Secret offers. As far as world peace goes-The TMO and 
MMY have  the best offer to eliminate violence on a global level. What they 
need 
to do now  is expand their idea of the one percent effect with other 
spiritual  organizations. That won't happen. But- their will be other people 
who will 
lead  the large group meditations by the end of this year. 
 
There is always some new Secret or Guru or whoever or whatever that comes  
out every year promising that they have the whole truth and nothing but the  
truth. Most of it is taking advantage of people who don't know any better. But, 
 
at least its a start for most and it certainly is better than some of the  
corruption we are seeing in other areas of life that are offering people a road 
 
to hell. Love and Light. Lsoma. 



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