--What's the still mind thingy as mentioned below.. anyone know?
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On Jun 24, 2005, at 1:32 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
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--What's the still mind thingy as mentioned below..
anyone know?
Atma vichara or Self-Inquiry, part of the Ramana
Maharishi tradition.
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Would love to hear more about the Inquisiton lifetime. Will I have
to read your book?
The personal parts won't necessarily be in the book,
except as local color. It'll be fiction.
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on 6/22/05 6:18 AM, t3rinity at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did you know Hartmut Beyerbach? He was a friend of mine and used
to
run the
press. I think he left in 1977 or so.
YES. Yes, he was my first boss. We
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Yes this was Norbert. He was a big fan of an initiator who imagined
himself having been Ernst Röhm, chief of the SA who was executed by
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/23/05 9:16 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I was teaching TTC I told Maharishi that I often had the
experience
that people would ask a question to which I didn't know the answer,
but that
I
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Actually I am not too well versed with history. I think he was a
competitor to SS chief Himmler, so I think Himmler had his hand in
it.
Also Röhm tried to overthrow Hitler and got caught.
Yeah, fun times all
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on 6/23/05 9:16 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I was teaching TTC I told Maharishi that I
often had the
experience
that people would ask a question to
on 6/24/05 7:55 AM, t3rinity at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Boy, he really got around. Wonder where he is now.
Maybe still with Arjuna?
He told me that there was another guy in the
press who was enlightened called Arjuna, whith whom he was in the
US.
At that time he was living in the US
Yep, MMY never had any clue about anything he's talking about. He
just read from some script prepared for him by Sanskrit scholars
because he couldn't read sanskrit...
Have you been in 10 hour meetings with MMY - have you seen the scripts,
the literally kilos of scripts this would
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Thank god he didn't have formal training. If he had
he never would have left India and taught to the West.
I'll take Blazing Brahman over formal training any
day of the week!
What happened to you Doc. - since
on 6/24/05 10:20 AM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yep, MMY never had any clue about anything he's talking about. He
just read from some script prepared for him by Sanskrit scholars
because he couldn't read sanskrit...
Have you been in 10 hour meetings with MMY - have you seen
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What happened to you Doc. - since when did you become positive to
MMY ?
Or are you back on to TM ? :-)
To understand Dr. Pete we must simply be the same Blazing Brahman of
perfect paradox he and MMY are :-)
To
On Jun 23, 2005, at 10:16 PM, sparaig wrote:
Yep, MMY never had any clue about anything he's talking about. He
just read from some script prepared for him by Sanskrit scholars
because he couldn't read sanskrit...
Are you being sarcastic or do you really mean what you said?
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On Jun 23, 2005, at 10:16 PM, sparaig wrote:
Yep, MMY never had any clue about anything he's talking about. He
just read from some script prepared for him by Sanskrit scholars
because he couldn't read sanskrit...
Are
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/24/05 10:20 AM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yep, MMY never had any clue about anything he's talking about. He
just read from some script prepared for him by Sanskrit scholars
because he couldn't
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I'll take Blazing Brahman over formal training any
day of the week!
Now you've done it. First it was 'shaktipat' that
was ruined for me with weird associations, then
'Willytex,' and now you've mentioned 'Blazing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yep, MMY never had any clue about anything he's talking about. He
just read from some script prepared for him by Sanskrit scholars
because he couldn't read sanskrit...
Have you been in 10 hour meetings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 23, 2005, at 10:16 PM, sparaig wrote:
Yep, MMY never had any clue about anything he's talking about. He
just read from some script prepared for him by Sanskrit scholars
because he couldn't read sanskrit...
Are
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108
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Yep, MMY never had any clue about anything he's talking
about. He
just read from some script prepared for him by Sanskrit
scholars
On Jun 24, 2005, at 12:29 PM, sparaig wrote:
That was my point. People on this forum have said that MMY was not a
real teacher, and
certainly not qualified to be Shankaracharya, becaues he wasn't a
Sanskrit scholar.
Therefore he had to be coached on everything he was saying by someone
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One thing you can say about a Master is that a Master does not
merely
dispense teaching by puja but by adhikara--your own unique needs, a
personal authorization for practice...or at least provides you with
skillful means
On Jun 24, 2005, at 1:32 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
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One thing you can say about a Master is that a Master does not
merely
dispense teaching by puja but by adhikara--your own unique needs, a
personal authorization for
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On Jun 24, 2005, at 1:32 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
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One thing you can say about a Master is that a Master does not
merely
dispense teaching by puja but
on 6/24/05 11:47 AM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good Grief, your understanding is simple to say the least; Guru Dev
wanted Maharishi to become Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math being that
rare person who lived His teachings. But He understood it (obviously)
to be impossible since
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snip
It's almost hilarious this adulation which fringes on the insane.
There's adulation which fringes on the insane
and puts the teacher on a pedestal, and then
there's disgust with knee-jerk, pile-on, often
unfair and/or
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 24, 2005, at 12:29 PM, sparaig wrote:
That was my point. People on this forum have said that MMY was not a
real teacher, and
certainly not qualified to be Shankaracharya, becaues he wasn't a
Sanskrit scholar.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 24, 2005, at 1:32 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
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One thing you can say about a Master is that a Master does not
merely
dispense teaching by puja but
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/24/05 11:47 AM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good Grief, your understanding is simple to say the least; Guru Dev
wanted Maharishi to become Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math being that
rare person who
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snip
It's almost hilarious this adulation which fringes on the insane.
There's adulation which fringes on the insane
and puts the teacher on a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 24, 2005, at 1:32 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
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One thing you can say about a Master is that a Master does not
merely
dispense teaching by puja but
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Right. I am of course not referring to the TM itself, but to the
explanation that is given especially at the second day checking,
that
is stress release, and thought being an expression of it. The idea
that stresses,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
An elephant has two
kinds of teeth, two to show and two to chew.
Elephants are sure getting their fifteen minutes of
fame here lately. :-)
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Right. I am of course not referring to the TM itself, but to the
explanation that is given especially at the second day
checking,
that
is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You become
conscious of something hiding in the unconscious and get rid of it
thereby. You don't find this in the indian Samskar theory.
Can you describe the Indian Samskar theory?
Jeff
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Can you describe the Indian Samskar
theory?Jeff---I think different times of the day have
different melodies.
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Can you describe the Indian Samskar theory?
Jeff
---I think different times of the day have different melodies.
Like Merry Melodies?
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Can you describe the Indian Samskar theory?
Jeff
---I think different times of the day have different melodies.
Like Merry
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Hubbard modelled his Dianetics after Psychtherapy. He surely was
aware of Samskaras, but in Indian thought samkaras are usually
not being rid of by just making them conscious. This is typically
Freud. You become
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snip
Hubbard modelled his Dianetics after Psychtherapy. He surely was
aware of Samskaras, but in Indian thought samkaras are usually
not being
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Yes, understood. But in Indian terms, getting rid of Samskaras
wouldn't necessitate reliving the energy of it. In Indian and I guess
Buddhist terms, Samskaras are desires or latent impressions giving
rise to the
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You become
conscious of something hiding in the unconscious and get rid of it
thereby. You don't find this in the indian Samskar theory.
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[...]
The explanation is phantastic. Thats the upside. The downside is, that
if you believe in it, you are hooked up to a kind of cypernetic model
of having to do something, and unless you do it, i.e. release stresses
one
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Right. I am of course not referring to the TM itself, but to the
explanation that is given especially at the second day
checking,
that
is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
MMY never said that anyway. He said that stress is repaired during
the inward stroke of TM, and that thoughts arise as part of the
activity of repair. If there was no repair to be made (no samskaras
left), no
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snip
What I remember being told is that the
content of thoughts that arise likely have
nothing at all to do with the content of
the stresses
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BTW, when did Hubbard start talking about things in terms of stress?
Hans Selye didn't coin the word until relatively recently.
Hubbard talked about things in terms of survival, not stress.
Jeff
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.Let's say you expect a friend to come, and you will
associate the *feeling* with the present event. But the feeling
will
be reminescent of the stress being released according to 2nd day
checking.
I remember we were
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
samskara: Impression. The imprint or traces left in the mind
after
an experience, whether in this or previous lives. Root impressions,
especially from profound events, which mold character and guide
actions.
t3rinity,
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samskara: Impression. The imprint or traces left in the mind
after
an experience, whether in this or previous lives. Root
impressions,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Similarely
in TM the stresses are being released when the thought arises. I
am
not aware that in indian theory the arising of thought is seen as
getting rid of Samkaras. I am not saying that it cannot work. I am
just
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My
notes say: (translated from german): 'The quality of the stress
determines the quality of thought.'
Then it gives the example I just had given, of the joy causing a
stress in the past, and how the mind picks up the
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.Let's say you expect a friend to come, and you will
associate the *feeling* with the present event. But the feeling
will
be reminescent of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer
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In Dianetics, one would not have to relive all such
imprints to become Clear. The collapse of the Reactive Bank
(that
portion of the mind that works on a totally stimulus-response
basis)
can occur rather quickly -
Samsaras are anything that revolves like a wheel
lifting one up and then casting one down. All of life is like this. All
our emotions are like this. You cannot dig out hatred because it is a natural
emotion. You cannot dig out any emotion, or get rid of anything because if
you're alive
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I guess in not being overshadowed by the experience, i.e. just being
the witness?
In a sense, yes. A goal of Scientology is to be stably exterior
which would be the equivalent of witnessing 24/7. As you continue to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem here is that
TM (like scientology) assumes that the stresses are located
physically. Thats not the same with the samskara theory.
Therefore
it
assumes that you have to release them one by one, resulting
Like it.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Samsaras are anything that revolves like a wheel lifting one up and
then casting one down. All of life is like this. All our emotions are
like this. You cannot dig out hatred because it is a natural emotion.
You
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I guess in not being overshadowed by the experience, i.e. just being
the witness?
In a sense, yes. A goal of Scientology is to be stably
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:13 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing
techniques)
Like it.
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Oh shit,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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and thanks Jeff, for yours. I enjoy hearing about the Dianetics
stuff because specific terminology aside, it is a wonderful
explanation of the psycho-dynamics we engage in with ourselves,
seeing thoughts and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My thanks as well. You explain Scientology very clearly
and with feeling. The feeling comes through.
Unc
Aw shucks, Unc
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My
notes say: (translated from german): 'The quality of the stress
determines the quality of thought.'
Then it gives the example I just
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer
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In Scientology, the stresses (engrams) are not located physically.
When one dramatizes the earlier event, one will reexperience the
physical pain associated with it. Got your head chopped in the
French Revolution
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I guess in not being overshadowed by the experience, i.e. just
being the witness?
In a sense, yes. A goal of Scientology is to be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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My thanks as well. You explain Scientology very clearly
and with feeling. The feeling comes through.
Aw shucks, Unc
I'm just saying
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Oh shit, aren't you the guy who hates everything I say? Now what am
I gonna do?
Nothing.
And with style. Makes all the difference. :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Do you remember a German guy named Norbert from that course?
Yes, Norbert Weiss from cologne. He was quite a character
Do you know Walter Schemper. Was on Vittel TTC around '75 or'76.
Blondish Hair, Blue Eyes.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He first was in Cologne and then went to Nuremberg
where I am from.
Thanks for the update. Your English is incredibly gut.
I studied German in gymnasium (FisCher) but all I really rememeber is
Noch zwei, bitte when I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Very nicely said. You're good at this, Jeff. Do you
get a chance to perform auditing yourself, or other-
wise teach within the organization?
Unc
Thanks. Yes, I'm an auditor and lecturer. I deal mostly with people
Very nicely said. You're good at this, Jeff. Do you
get a chance to perform auditing yourself, or other-
wise teach within the organization?
Thanks. Yes, I'm an auditor and lecturer. I deal mostly with
people
for whom it is all brand new.
Cool. Back in the TM world, I used to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'm just saying it because IMO it's good to get
feedback on that sorta thing from time to time.
Being able to express one's dharma in writing in
a way that reaches people intellectually is one
thing. Being able to
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When I first got in to TM I was such a zealot that my friends would
start to roll their eyes whenever I came around. I finally got it
and stopped taliking about it. Yet, after a full year of consciously
not
There's an old New Yorker cartoon that I loved.
It's at a typical NY cocktail party, two people
in the foreground are talking to each other.
Across the room is a guy with a kind of beatific
smile on his face and no one around him. One of
the guys in the foreground is saying to the other,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes this was Norbert. He was a big fan of an initiator who imagined
himself having been Ernst Röhm, chief of the SA who was executed by
Hitler later on.
My understanding is that it was specifically Hermann Goering who
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Yes this was Norbert. He was a big fan of an initiator who
imagined
himself having been Ernst Röhm, chief of the SA who was
executed by
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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He first was in Cologne and then went to Nuremberg
where I am from.
Thanks for the update. Your English is incredibly gut.
I studied
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lower case: Alt + 0252 ü
Upper case: Alt + 0220 Ü
http://www.starr.net/is/type/altnum.htm
Danke, Card. :-)
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cool. Back in the TM world, I used to like doing intro
lectures. I wound up giving a lot of advanced lectures
at centers and residence courses, but to be honest the
best thing I liked about them was not the prepared
on 6/23/05 3:41 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Very nicely said. You're good at this, Jeff. Do you
get a chance to perform auditing yourself, or other-
wise teach within the organization?
Thanks. Yes, I'm an auditor and lecturer. I deal mostly with
people
for whom it is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/23/05 3:41 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Very nicely said. You're good at this, Jeff. Do you
get a chance to perform auditing yourself, or other-
wise teach within the organization?
Thanks.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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My
notes say: (translated from german): 'The quality of the stress
determines the quality of thought.'
Then it gives the example I just
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer
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In Dianetics, one would not have to relive all such
imprints to become Clear. The collapse of the Reactive Bank
(that
portion of the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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The problem here is that
TM (like scientology) assumes that the stresses are located
physically. Thats not the same with the samskara theory.
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Very nicely said. You're good at this, Jeff. Do you
get a chance to perform auditing yourself, or other-
wise teach within the organization?
Thanks.
on 6/23/05 9:16 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I was teaching TTC I told Maharishi that I often had the
experience
that people would ask a question to which I didn't know the answer,
but that
I would start with a few words and then the answer would just come
out.
Maharishi
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on 6/22/05 6:18 AM, t3rinity at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did you know Hartmut Beyerbach? He was a friend of mine and used to
run the
press. I think he left in 1977 or so.
YES. Yes, he was my first boss. We left on the same day the press, he
for 6 month course and I for phase I. (After him
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on 6/22/05 6:18 AM, t3rinity at
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Did you know Hartmut Beyerbach? He was a friend
of mine and used to
run the
press. I think he left in 1977 or so.
YES. Yes, he was my first boss. We left on the
same day the press,
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of course, MY understanding is that MMY used Shankara's description
of meditation as dying the cloth, combined with the traditional
Patanjali discussion of mind fluctuations, all wrapped up in western
terminology ala
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer
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Could the vast majority be characterized as from a particular
sector, e.g. fundamentalist or conservative Christian? It always
seemed to me
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on 6/21/05 5:17 AM, t3rinity at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Most of the time in the movement I was sort of on an island within the
movement, agroup between 10 to max. 30 people, who were sworn
together, and that was
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Of course, MY understanding is that MMY used Shankara's
description
of meditation as dying the cloth, combined with the traditional
Patanjali
I have followed with some interest the career of rocket scientist John
Jack Parsons and Hubbard. In fact Parsons just had a new biography
published.
Hubbard and Parsons worked together on a ritual called the Babalon
working which was a rite to incarnate Babalon, essentially a form of
Kali, in
On Jun 22, 2005, at 10:16 AM, Vaj wrote:
I have followed with some interest the career of rocket scientist John
Jack Parsons and Hubbard. In fact Parsons just had a new biography
published.
Here a online review of the biography of Jack Parsons called Strange
Angel: The
Otherwordly Life Of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is all very Gnostic. In fact if one looks closely at Hubbards
system, it clearly has parallels to the Neoplatonic idea of the *idios
daemon*--the personal Daemon
That would be more like a Guardian Spirit? Not the BT's,
On Jun 22, 2005, at 11:32 AM, t3rinity wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is all very Gnostic. In fact if one looks closely at Hubbards
system, it clearly has parallels to the Neoplatonic idea of the *idios
daemon*--the personal Daemon
That
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Of course, MY understanding is that MMY used Shankara's
description
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