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> > > snip
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Reading your words and most others o
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yah
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> Are you and I even all that different
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Are you and I even all that different?
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> We are One but we are quite different.
>
Explain please?
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> On Nov 1, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Peter wrote:
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> >
> > --- brahmachari108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > snip
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Reading your words and most others on their
> >> proclamations betrays the level of so cal
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> > --- brahmachari108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > snip
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> > >
> > > Reading your words and most others on their
> > > proclamations betrays the level of so called
> > > enlightenment.
> > > Do you think th
On Nov 2, 2005, at 1:17 AM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Nov 1, 2005, at 3:38 PM, brahmachari108 wrote: Notions of CC, GC, UC are inventions of Mahesh Yogi. Where in Veda are these mentioned? What is above or below in the state of Turiya
Yes, speaking from personal experience, is the gift.
Knowledge in the books, stays in the books;
Until someone can live what is written.
It's all just words on a page.
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> On Nov 1, 2005, at 3:38 PM, brahmachari108 wrote:
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> > Notions of CC, GC, UC are inventions of Mahesh Yogi.
> > Where in Veda are these mentioned?
> > What is above or below in the state of Turiya?
>
>
> CC = samkhya an
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> snip
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>> Reading your words and most others on their
>> proclamations betrays the level of so called
>> enlightenment.
>> Do you think that if someone were truly enlightened,
>> he would feel th
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> > Reading your words and most others on their
> > proclamations betrays the level of so called
> > enlightenment.
> > Do you think that if someone were truly enlightened,
> > he would feel the need to tell
> > "others?" What "oth
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> Reading your words and most others on their
> proclamations betrays the level of so called
> enlightenment.
> Do you think that if someone were truly enlightened,
> he would feel the need to tell
> "others?" What "other" exists in enligh
On Nov 1, 2005, at 3:55 PM, brahmachari108 wrote:
> Reading your words and most others on their proclamations betrays
> the level of so called
> enlightenment.
> Do you think that if someone were truly enlightened, he would feel
> the need to tell
> "others?" What "other" exists in enlightenm
On Nov 1, 2005, at 3:38 PM, brahmachari108 wrote:
> Notions of CC, GC, UC are inventions of Mahesh Yogi.
> Where in Veda are these mentioned?
> What is above or below in the state of Turiya?
CC = samkhya and yoga
GC = mimamsa and Vaishnava devotionalism.
UC = Badarayana sutras
and numerous oth
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> > >
> > > Objectively?
> > >
> > > I belive MMY says that levitation is proof of samadhi.
> > >
> > > I suppose this means that if a person who is a known TMSP-practitioner
> > > repeatedly can take-off, hoover and settle down in a controlled
> > > manner, chances are this person is CC or abo
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> > No, we're talking about a definition of, or criteria
> > for, real levitation. *You* brought up the notion of
> > "proo
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> > No, we're talking about a definition of, or criteria
> > for, real levitation. *You* brought up the notion of
> > "proof" for the pur
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> > > > Lawson is talking about a *theoretical* way of verifying
> > > > something he has never witnessed. He's talking about a
> > >
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> > > Apples and oranges, Judy. If Lawson wer
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> > > Lawson is talking about a *theoretical* way of verifying
> > > something he has never witnessed. He's talking about a
> > > theoretical way that someone who believes in something
> > > could use to convince someon
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> on 10/15/05 10:54 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe none ofthem are attempting to beat the
> > world record. The olympic level athletes reportedly have at least
> > short-term h
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> > Marathon that all kinds of ordinary people run
> > in, BTW--people who have regular
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> > Apples and oranges, Judy. If Lawson were saying he
> > had *witnessed* true levitation, then we'd be comparing
> > apples to apple
> > > > > > The kind of levitation/floating that MMY claims to be
> > > > > > referring to is the kind that you can photograph and
> > > > > > perform
> > > > > > before a skeptical audience.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hmmm. I would be one of those skeptics. Exactly where,
> > > > > after 30 years o
on 10/15/05 10:54 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe none ofthem are attempting to beat the
> world record. The olympic level athletes reportedly have at least
> short-term health problems after the run.
This topic has morphed. It would be good to change the sub
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
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> > > I don't know that running a marathon could b
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Typical. Avoid the question. Why are you afraid to answer that
> >> question Judy?
> >
> > Vaj, the qu
On Oct 15, 2005, at 9:39 AM, authfriend wrote:
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>> On Oct 14, 2005, at 3:38 PM, authfriend wrote:
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The
Patanjali sutras are yoga/samkhya darshana Judy and what is the
result of yoga darshana Judy? I'll giv
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> I am also not sure any more whether the technique
> actually *does* anything or whether it merely
> tricks practitioners into forgetting that they
> *can't* do something, and as a result, they can.
That sounds like the
> > > My guess is that there is some level on which most
> > > yogic flyers don't *really* believe true levitation
> > > (i.e., hovering and beyond, not just Really Big Hops)
> > > is possible. They may believe it on an intellectual
> > > basis, but not in their gut.
> >
> > Exactly. I think tha
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> > > I am also convinced that many of them al
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> TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Whatever floats your boat, I guess.
>
> Are you addicted to your boat floating?
I think you may be onto something here. The thought
of the opposite gives me a sinking fee
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> > I am also convinced that many of them also have reached the required
> > physiological degree of purity to sustain that state which
> > > The kind of levitation/floating that MMY claims to be
> > > referring to is the kind that you can photograph and
> > > perform before a skeptical audience.
> >
> > Hmmm. I would be one of those skeptics. Exactly where,
> > after 30 years or so, are these photographs that show
> > "the ki
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> Whatever floats your boat, I guess.
Are you addicted to your boat floating?
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> > I am also convinced that many of them also have reached the
required
> > physiological degree of purity to sustain that state wh
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> I am also convinced that many of them also have reached the required
> physiological degree of purity to sustain that state which allows
> them to levitate, but that the ambient atmosphere is fore-checking
> this an
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> > I suspect it all depends upon the level of conditioning
> > that the fanatic was exposed to. Consider fanatical
> > sects within
On Oct 14, 2005, at 1:09 PM, peterklutz wrote:I think serious seekers in the TMO are far closer to E than they might realize, the reason being the fact that they live in a world (until this summer) controlled by Kali. Didn't M. say the opposite, that people would be surprised (at how advanced the
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > >
> > The kind of levitation/floating that MMY claims t
> > > > > > > > Haven't you ever considered the possibility that
> > > > > > > > Maharishi just said that to get people to pay a
> > > > > > > > lot of money for his made-up "Patanjali" tech-
> > > > > > > > niques, and to keep practicing them?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Okay, I am getting a bit
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> I suspect it all depends upon the level of conditioning
> that the fanatic was exposed to. Consider fanatical
> sects within the Catholic Church or Muslim faith or
> whatever, in which doubt is not only not tolerated,
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> > > > > > > Haven't you ever considered the possibility that
> > > > > > > Maharishi just said that to get people to pay a
> > > > > > > lot of money for his made-up "Patanjali" tech-
> > > > > > > niques, and to keep
> > > > > > Haven't you ever considered the possibility that
> > > > > > Maharishi just said that to get people to pay a
> > > > > > lot of money for his made-up "Patanjali" tech-
> > > > > > niques, and to keep practicing them?
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay, I am getting a bit confused here.
> > > >
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.c
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > > (Oh, and the techniques aren't "made-u
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> > > (Oh, and the techniques aren't "made-up 'Pat
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> > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > snip
> > >
> > > The kind of levitation/floating that MMY claims
> to
> > > be referring to is
> > > the kind that you can ph
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> > (Oh, and the techniques aren't "made-up 'Patanjali'
> > techniques." You might want to have a look at the
> > Yoga Sutras sometime.
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> snip
> >
> > The kind of levitation/floating that MMY claims to
> > be referring to is
> > the kind that you can photograph and perform before
> > a skeptical
> > audience.
>
> B
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> > > > Haven't you ever considered the possibility
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Don't know about less experienced TMSP practitioners, but there's the
> > Vastu thing to consider, andof course, the claim that the Mah
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> The kind of levitation/floating that MMY claims to be referring to
> is the kind that you can photograph and perform before a skeptical
Objectively?
I belive MMY
says that levitation is proof of samadhi.
I suppose
this means that if a person who is a known TMSP-practitioner
repeatedly
can take-off, hoover and settle down in a controlled
manner,
chances are this person is CC or above.
I’m thinking if what has a
So, when we stop living the surrealistic reality of our assumed
limitations, and become free, we are said to then
be 'enlightened'.
But it is merely relative to what our past
experience has been.
Hi Jim …thanks for your reply.
I was thinking about that line you wrote
above
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>
> The kind of levitation/floating that MMY claims to
> be referring to is
> the kind that you can photograph and perform before
> a skeptical
> audience.
But this has never happened, right? So why not talk
about the man in the moon?
>
>
>
>
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> > > Haven't you ever considered the possibility that
>
> > > Maharishi just
On Oct 14, 2005, at 3:07 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:On the other hand, I disagree completely with levitation being any measure of one's state of consciousness. It's just a skill. You can either do it or you can't. It don't say bupkus about your state of consciousness. If it was then you'd have to
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> > Haven't you ever considered the possibility that
> > Maharishi just said that to get people to pay a
> > lot of money for his made-
On Oct 13, 2005, at 11:20 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In Fairfiel
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Don't know about less experienced TMSP practitioners, but there's
the
> > Vastu thing to consider, andof course, the claim that the Ma
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paula Youmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I told Tom he was enlightened and he t
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz"
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> >
> > > I believe MMY said that fully-perfected levitation (i.e.
> > > floating)
> > > (or other sidhi) done on-demand at any time o
Irmeli: It puzzles me also, why people, when they stop
identifying the 'I' with an image of one's personal self, say there
is no 'I' anymore.
Peter:Because no "I" or psychological sense of "me" is
present. It can't be found. When people (in avidya)
say "me" they are refering to a sense of sepa
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> Don't know about less experienced TMSP practitioners, but there's the
> Vastu thing to consider, andof course, the claim that the Maharishi
> Effect exists and would have an effect on individuals during group
> practi
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> (Oh, and the techniques aren't "made-up 'Patanjali'
> techniques." You might want to have a look at the
> Yoga Sutras sometime.)
I have. So, obviously, has Maharishi. He took one
look at the verses and said to him
Hi Akasha,
First, many here and elsewhere have so many
understandings of the term, use of such a label,
in contrast to direct
descriptors of an experience, has little communicative
value IMO.
I know
lol. I hear that word used so much, and I swear ….I don’t know what
it means lol
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> > I believe MMY said that fully-perfected levitation (i.e.
> > floating)
> > (or other sidhi) done on-demand at any time outside of sutra
> > practice
> > would be a sign of fully-established Unity, not CC.
> >
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paula Youmans"
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> > > I told Tom he was enlightened and h
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> Forgive please but what does your believing have to do with the
> Truth of it? Interesting it is in this group how so many are so
> eager to let others know what their thinking is on enlightenment.
>
> Menta
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paula Youmans"
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> > > I told Tom he was enlightened and he
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> > I told Tom he was enlightened and he told me that I
> > was enlightened, so there.
> >
> > Haha.have you ever had someone tell
MDG:
Then who is the "I" that is doing this switching, that "could switch
between 'ME' and 'me'", that says "the sense or glow of 'ME' was
stronger and more switchable with 'me' when I wanted it"?
Akasha:
Its a form of the intellect that knows itself, and the difference
between "Me" and "me".
Inte
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Hi Paula,
Pleasant is always good, if not the best. My response, though
"serious" in content, had a jocular intent.
There is a cetain "joke" underlying the question and answer. In a
similar vein to Judy's statement "I just don't want to be overshadowed
anymore".
As you may know from my posts, I
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paula Youmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > >
> > >
> > > I told Tom he was enlightene
Peter:
> > > This is one of the clearest responses articulating the
> > > condition of "I" after realization. It's brilliant.
> > > Wondering what happens to the "I" in enlightenment is
> > > like asking what happens to the knot after it's
> > > untied; what happens to the darkness when the light
Yikes, not at all.
And if I did, asking would hardly help me
(as I was stating).
I ask because people speak of
enlightenment as if they know what it is and have never been able to find out.
So to answer your questions
I
want to know
you
couldn’t pay me to take such a la
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paula Youmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >
> > I told Tom he was enlightened and he told me that I
> > was enlightened, so there.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Haha.hav
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> Full awareness,
> > but no "I" to lay claim to be doing anything. There is
> > nobody home, but all the lights are on and everything
>
Peter
> I told Tom he was enlightened and he told me that I
> was enlightened, so there.
Paula
> Seriously.how does anyone ever know???
Who wants to know? Do you feel you would be enhanced with such a
christening or label? If so, isn't that telling? Doesn't that in
itself convey the answer?
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> snip
> > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paula Youmans"
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> > > Seriously.how does anyone ever know???
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flaneg
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> > >
> > > I told Tom he was enlighten
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paula Youmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > Seriously.how does anyone ever know???
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> I don't believe anyone ever does, in an absolute sense. Life is o
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> >
> > I told Tom he was enlightened and he told me that I
> > was enlightened, so there.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Haha.ha
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>
> I told Tom he was enlightened and he told me that I
> was enlightened, so there.
>
>
>
>
>
> Haha.have you ever had someone tell you that you had reached
enlightenment?
>
> It's a lot like someone inform
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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> > And yet, once this state of inner and outer freedom is reached,
life
> > goes on, relative responsibilities and achievements
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> And yet, once this state of inner and outer freedom is reached, life
> goes on, relative responsibilities and achievements continue, and
> one day we will look a long way back and realize
> that 'enlightenment',
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>
> I told Tom he was enlightened and he told me that I
> was enlightened, so there.
>
>
>
>
>
> Haha.have you ever had someone tell you that you had reached
enlightenment?
>
> It's a lot like someone info
To be like Shiva. He does it all the time.
Plus Ostriches are cool, and by cool I
mean totally sweet!
Fast as hell they are…. Swsh
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> I told Tom he was enlightened and he told me that I
> was enlightened, so there.
And then you rolled over and told Tom to quit hogging all the blanket?
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> > Full awareness,
> > > but no "I" to lay claim to be doing anything.
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