[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
What he said below. Plus, there is the possibility, the universe being infinite and not limited to concepts like humans, that every experience of enlightenment by every human who ever experienced it could have been different. Talk about pushing buttons...the scripturalists who want everything to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-16 Thread cardemaister
Have you ever seen the signs (eeg studies etc...) of any other people besides TMers. Did you even take a look at Ken_Stops_His_Brainwaves.wmv that Vaj posted? Pretty impressive. I'm afraid that was a cheat! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are right on the beam. Teaching in the field there never was any tangible regional support. Occasional spurts of national publicity, but no other support, just mandates. And it was run like commision sales. When

[FairfieldLife] Re: Blanched almonds

2005-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
ALMONDS PACK POTENT ANTIOXIDANT PUNCH Don't blanche your almonds! In a new study published in this month's Journal of Nutrition, USDA researchers have shown that the antioxidants in almond skins and the vitamin E inside almonds work together as a free radical-busting team. Aah,

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
Actually, MMY has characterized CC as merely normal, and as glorified ignorance. All that CC is is when there is 24/7 presence of Self. The claim that I and me goes away is either a mis-identification of CC with extreme unstressing resulting in pathological derealization,

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I take that as a no. And am left with the impression that your view is based on your interpretation of any number of advanced lecture tapes you heard and assimilated over the years. Bingo. And it's understandable.

[FairfieldLife] raadza and rich?

2005-06-16 Thread cardemaister
1 rAjan 1 m. (ifc. mostly %{-rAja} , esp. in Tat-purushas ; f. %{- rAjan} , %{-jA} or %{-jJI} ; cf. Pa1n2. 4-1 , 28 Sch.) a king , sovereign , prince , chief (often applied to gods e.g. to Varun2a and the other A1dityas , to Indra , Yama c. , but esp. to Soma [also the plant and juice] and the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-16 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: His crack smoking and 'ho running. Which personal behavior of MMY's has jeapordized the TMO? Ture, I'm sure, but I think it is MMY's practice of hotting VW Golfs, and driving

[FairfieldLife] Mind

2005-06-16 Thread anonymousff
Right NOW... First there is an I -- then there is no I -- then there is. Second there is a mind--then there is no mind--then there is. Third there is a mountain--then there is no mountain--then there is. Right NOW... or NOT! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a substantial group of the 'newly awakened' here writing on FFL, willing to stick their necks out. How many of them are still closely associated with the TMO? And there is a good reason for this. If they

[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo

2005-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a travesty and mockery of life, that those in political power used Terri Schivo, to emotionalize their power base. The same people justify sending our young people off to die. It don't make no sense. Oh, it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-16 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/15/05 2:23 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it jeopardizes the company, you bet it gets dealt with somehow. If it

[FairfieldLife] 'Reacting to' vs. 'bouncing off of'

2005-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
There is a phenomenon that's come up here lately that fascinates me, because I've seen it on a *lot* of Internet forums that deal with spirituality. It's the conflict of two paradigms of what such forums should be like. In the first paradigm -- 'reacting to' -- one encounters an idea that runs

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-16 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since purity of the teaching is and always has been MMY's most important focus, he's been willing to tolerate less-than- creative individuals because they're the ones most likely to follow the purity of the teaching

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-16 Thread Peter Sutphen
In my early days in the TMO from '72 to '78 there always was some structured activity for people to share and talk about their experiences. This was not discouraged in the least.But starting with the big Amherst course in '79 this pretty much stopped. It does seem rather ironic that a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-16 Thread Peter Sutphen
CC is well described as glorified ignorance, especially the early stages of it. But, Sparaig, you need to read your 'Gita a little more carefully regarding "I" and enlightenment. I suspect your understanding of enlightenment is based on intellect alone rather than on intellect and experience.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-16 Thread Peter Sutphen
Who's Peter?akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Some responses below: akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen wrote: CC is "baby" awakening. Cessation of

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since purity of the teaching is and always has been MMY's most important focus, he's been willing to tolerate less-than-creative

Re: [FairfieldLife] CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-16 Thread Vaj
Hi Akasha, great to see you back. Hope you are well. On Jun 15, 2005, at 9:29 PM, akasha_108 wrote: Ut oh Peter, now you have done it! You called CC baby awakening. Tom is going to go totally ballistic! I quoted you sometime back as CC being baby steps and Tom lambsted me up and down for 3-4

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-16 Thread Vaj
On Jun 15, 2005, at 11:17 PM, sparaig wrote: All that CC is is when there is 24/7 presence of Self. The claim that I and me goes away is either a mis-identification of CC with extreme unstressing resulting in pathological derealization, or a misinterpretation of what MMY is describing. Said

[FairfieldLife] Send the Dalai Lama a 70th birthday greeting

2005-06-16 Thread Vaj
Send the Dalai Lama a 70th birthday greeting Dear Friend of the Dalai Lama, On July 6th, 2005, Tenzin Gyatso, the 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet, will turn 70. Here is a unique opportunity to wish the Dalai Lama a happy birthday. By clicking on the link to the right you can add your name (and, if

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-16 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who's Peter? That's what I've been trying to figure out. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups

[FairfieldLife] CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-16 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Akasha 108 writes: Though as Tom has claimed there are 58 million flavors of awakening at the Awakening /IceCream store. I just wonder if plain vanilla is really the same as triple jamaca almond machadamion nut ghee-fudge blueberry mocha mintchip chavanaprash cherry saffron swirl with gold leaf

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-16 Thread Peter Sutphen
Don't bother. He's been missing for years.Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Who's Peter?That's what I've been trying to figure out.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Reacting to' vs. 'bouncing off of'

2005-06-16 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of them has to be RIGHT, and the other WRONG. And therefore the only proper response to a contrary view is to challenge it and draw the other person into an argument, during which the goal is to prove one

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It does seem rather ironic that a spiritual movement who's primary goal is enlightenment does not encourage its members to talk about their experiences regarding this goal. I've always seen this as a political

Re: [FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread Llundrub
And then it hits him, in a blinding flash of realization,that he's sitting there quivering in his seat, about tobe judged by his betters for the dastardly crime of EatingIce Cream.He starts to laugh. They call him into the room. He can'tstop laughing. He answers none of their questions,

[FairfieldLife] Re: ...Me...

2005-06-16 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gave up smiling around the same time I realized how stupid I was to not get the nickname uns_tressor... ..too much joy, bongs and mind adapting herbal preparations softens the mind's inspiratory muscles. It is all those

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Reacting to' vs. 'bouncing off of'

2005-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of them has to be RIGHT, and the other WRONG. And therefore the only proper response to a contrary view is to challenge it and

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Reacting to' vs. 'bouncing off of'

2005-06-16 Thread Patrick Gillam
TurquoiseB wrote: One of them has to be RIGHT, and the other WRONG. And therefore the only proper response to a contrary view is to challenge it and draw the other person into an argument, during which the goal is to prove one person WRONG and the other RIGHT. Jeff Fischer wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Reacting to' vs. 'bouncing off of'

2005-06-16 Thread Sal Sunshine
That seems to be a prime technique of most cults--convince the members that they are so right and everyone else is so wrong, that any relationships or even basic conversations with anybody outside of the cult is essentially impossible. It almost guarantees that the cult members will stay right

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ...Me...

2005-06-16 Thread Llundrub
It's been a pretty good life. I was thinking yesterday. I've had the best of drugs the best of women the best of spiritual paths - TM and Dzogchen the best house the best friends the best music the best Yahoo group the best software the best everything I ever wanted. It's been a pretty

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Reacting to' vs. 'bouncing off of'

2005-06-16 Thread Llundrub
Now I do it just because you're such a companionable group of assholes, as Llundrub might say.- Patrick GillamOh quite so. I gave up needing to be right when I realized that I'm so often wrong. It was easier to make being part right/part wrong my identification. And it's easy. Now I

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Reacting to' vs. 'bouncing off of'

2005-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I do it just because you're such a companionable group of assholes, as Llundrub might say. - Patrick Gillam Oh quite so. I gave up needing to be right when I realized that I'm so often wrong. Me, too.

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since purity of the teaching is and always has been MMY's

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Reacting to' vs. 'bouncing off of'

2005-06-16 Thread Jeff Fischer
, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh quite so. I gave up needing to be right when I realized that I'm so often wrong. Unc: Me, too. One of the major benefits of having a girlfriend or wife. :-) Hallelujah Brother. Amen to that. My wife is my barometer. When I piss her

Re: [FairfieldLife] CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-16 Thread Peter Sutphen
Yes, utterly unique and utterly the same. Someone talks about their enlightenment experiences and another person with enlightenment experiences says yes! yes! There is an innate recognition that the "same thing" is being discussed.tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-16 Thread Peter Sutphen
That response was quite funny, Vaj!Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 15, 2005, at 11:17 PM, sparaig wrote: All that CC is is when there is 24/7 presence of Self. The claim that "I" and "me" goes away is either a mis-identification of CC with extreme unstressing resulting in pathological

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your friend has great experience and is pushed out of the TMO. Maybe there is some truth to the old rumor that the powers that be are reincarnated members of the order of the protectors of the faith (inquisitors)

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Reacting to' vs. 'bouncing off of'

2005-06-16 Thread Jeff Fischer
TurquoiseB wrote: One of them has to be RIGHT, and the other WRONG. And therefore the only proper response to a contrary view is to challenge it and draw the other person into an argument, during which the goal is to prove one person WRONG and the other RIGHT. Jeff

Re: [FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/16/05 10:20 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Petty tyrants are able to be tyrants only because people allow them to do so. Stand up to them, especially in a way that makes them look ridiculous or causes others to laugh at them, and they turn back into what they always were,

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread Jeff Fischer
Petty tyrants are able to be tyrants only because people allow them to do so. Stand up to them, especially in a way that makes them look ridiculous or causes others to laugh at them, and they turn back into what they always were, timid little mice given power before they were mature

[FairfieldLife] 'Former Bush Aid reports Collapse of Twin Towers conspiracy...'

2005-06-16 Thread Robert Gimbel
When we hear of the Downing Street memos, it's taken for granted that, of course there was a bias for war. However, this revelation of the twin tower collapse seems to bring the extent of the conspiracy to further heights of horror... Former Bush Aid says Twin Tower blown up...

[FairfieldLife] Hindu Temple of Tampa

2005-06-16 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Hindu Temple of Tampa You Floridians might want to know about this. http://hindutempleofflorida.org/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Former Bush Aid reports Collapse of Twin Towers conspiracy...'

2005-06-16 Thread Vaj
Well everyone knows it was actually the Knights Templar and their secret UFO fleet that did it ;-) --it was all a ploy to start a new Crusade No seriously, you might have missed this--it was on PBS a couple of years ago: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-16 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Akasha 108 writes: Though as Tom has claimed there are 58 million flavors of awakening at the Awakening /IceCream store. I just wonder if plain vanilla is really the same as triple jamaca almond

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Petty tyrants are able to be tyrants only because people allow them to do so. Stand up to them, especially in a way that makes them look ridiculous or causes others to laugh at them, and they turn back into

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Former Bush Aid reports Collapse of Twin Towers conspiracy...'

2005-06-16 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When we hear of the Downing Street memos, it's taken for granted that, of course there was a bias for war. However, this revelation of the twin tower collapse seems to bring the extent of the conspiracy to

[FairfieldLife] Shonger?

2005-06-16 Thread cardemaister
Married men live longer, married women live shorter! -- Regina Hall in COB, paraphrased! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread Llundrub
Stand up to them, especially in a way that makes them look ridiculous or causes others tolaugh at them, and they turn back into what they alwayswere, timid little mice given power before they weremature enough to handle it.Unc--Or they take power. To subscribe, send a message to:

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stand up to them, especially in a way that makes them look ridiculous or causes others to laugh at them, and they turn back into what they always were, timid little mice given power before they were mature enough to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Former Bush Aid reports Collapse of Twin Towers conspiracy...'

2005-06-16 Thread Llundrub
http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds12.htmlWow. Well written and harrowing.-Now that you're harrowed, what are you going to do about it? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-16 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CC is baby awakening. Cessation of identification of consciousness with mind. End of I and me. Cessation of identification of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-16 Thread Llundrub
CC, one sees twice. Therefore one is exactly the same as before but know one knows it. - Original Message - From: Rick To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:06 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: CC is "Baby Awakening" --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Former Bush Aid reports Collapse of Twin Towers conspiracy...'

2005-06-16 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When we hear of the Downing Street memos, it's taken for granted that, of course there was a bias for war. However, this

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-16 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CC, one sees twice. Therefore one is exactly the same as before but know one knows it. Si, si, es correcto. Ricardo To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-16 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CC is baby awakening. Cessation of identification of consciousness with mind. End of I and me.

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice job: Confronting suppression. They are cowards and wilt when one stands his ground. Jeff Its a nice story. However, I have found in my experience, such direct confrontations do not usually have such

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-16 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Primordial Shiva ... You are simply Primordial, Infinite Consciousness, Pure Shiva Exactly when is Shiva not Primordial or Pure. Does using these adjectives make you feel more mystical and profound? :) To

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Reacting to' vs. 'bouncing off of'

2005-06-16 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote snip IMO the more one asserts rightness in the face of huge evidence to the contrary, the further down the scale they are. Did you catch the interview of some of Terry Shiavo's relatives after the results of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-16 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CC is baby

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I said, the owners and managers are important because you all have made the bed, but the chef is the one that will be bringing people off the streets and turning the tricks for you. And then I thought, jeez

[FairfieldLife] Re: Good article on autism-mercury

2005-06-16 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Posting this because weve often haggled over this topic: A Salon/Rolling Stone joint investigation - - - - - - - - - - - - Deadly immunity When a study revealed that mercury in childhood vaccines may have caused

[FairfieldLife] The Hitler Card

2005-06-16 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice job: Confronting suppression. They are cowards and wilt when one stands his ground. Jeff Its a nice story.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread Llundrub
Sounds logical to me. Sounds to me like you're mellowing a bit. Is this a good thing?lurk-Well, when I quit things are a bit more Yamantaka. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'

[FairfieldLife] Re: raadza and rich?

2005-06-16 Thread johnlasher20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1 rAjan 1 m. (ifc. mostly %{-rAja} , esp. in Tat-purushas ; f. %{- rAjan} , %{-jA} or %{-jJI} ; cf. Pa1n2. 4-1 , 28 Sch.) a king , sovereign , prince , chief (often applied to gods e.g. to Varun2a and the other

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stand up to them, especially in a way that makes them look ridiculous or causes others to laugh at them, and they turn back into what they

[FairfieldLife] SSRIs

2005-06-16 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer See how many of the school shooters were on psychotropics. I don't know, how many? But I would venture that teen (and adult) use of SSIs has greatly reduced violence and anger mismanagement actions. If one's seretonin levels maintain

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-16 Thread Vaj
On Jun 16, 2005, at 1:27 PM, akasha_108 wrote: It's funny when you see these parrotings of TMO doctrine. What's so funny is that most aren't even aware that to a Samkhya practitioner turiyatita (CC) *IS* the big E! Yes. And many of the vedangas (and/or their antecendents) are based on a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: raadza and rich?

2005-06-16 Thread Llundrub
Cardemeister is the Veda, eternally humming along. What is the purpose? The same purpose as all of life of course. It is a song. Better to ask, what is the point of groups of pundits doing the same thing. Does this do anything for you? And yet Carde is closer to you then any group of

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Reacting to' vs. 'bouncing off of'

2005-06-16 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you catch the interview of some of Terry Shiavo's relatives after the results of the autopsy. Somehow they were saying that the results did not prove anything, in fact maybe bolstered some of their

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Hitler Card

2005-06-16 Thread Llundrub
So, in simplifed story cards, a whole bunch of, immoral IMO,Imperialst Empires had a huge gang fight in WWI, and the victors"raped and pillaged" the losers. And when the losers later got pissedoff and sought revenge, we puffed out our chests and said "we can't beappeasers!". Why didn't we

Re: [FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread Llundrub
One person can handle an individual situation as Unc did. When you're going up against a big, powerful entity (gov't, drug companies, etc) you need group effort. And it works. Our chapter just snuffed out a call for mandatory "mental health" screenings that came from the top (GW) and was

[FairfieldLife] Peace Palaces - Truth

2005-06-16 Thread Llundrub
What the Peace Palaces prove is that an edifice can be built based upon the experience of nothing, and millions of lies. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Reacting to' vs. 'bouncing off of'

2005-06-16 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: There is a phenomenon that's come up here lately that fascinates me, because I've seen it on a *lot* of Internet forums that deal with spirituality. It's the conflict of two paradigms of what such forums should be like. In the first paradigm -- 'reacting to' -- one

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Reacting to' vs. 'bouncing off of'

2005-06-16 Thread Jeff Fischer
TurQy, if you're truly non-attached then it doesn't matter does it? You could care less if someone wants to carry on an argument for the sake of arguing and it won't matter to you who is right. In the bigger scheme of things it really doesn't matter. :) It's just idle conversation.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Hitler Card

2005-06-16 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, in simplifed story cards, a whole bunch of, immoral IMO, Imperialst Empires had a huge gang fight in WWI, and the victors raped and pillaged the losers. And when the losers later got pissed off and sought revenge, we

[FairfieldLife] Re: Good article on autism-mercury

2005-06-16 Thread easyone200
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Posting this because weve often haggled over this topic: A Salon/Rolling Stone joint investigation - - - - - - - - - - - - Deadly

[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRIs

2005-06-16 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I would venture that teen (and adult) use of SSIs has greatly reduced violence and anger mismanagement actions. According to the new warning labels for: Celexa (citalopram) / Lexapro / Effexor (Venlafaxine) /

[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRIs

2005-06-16 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I would venture that teen (and adult) use of SSIs has greatly reduced violence and anger mismanagement actions. According to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Send the Dalai Lama a 70th birthday greeting

2005-06-16 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send the Dalai Lama a 70th birthday greeting Dear Friend of the Dalai Lama, On July 6th, 2005, Tenzin Gyatso, the 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet, will turn 70. Here is a unique opportunity to wish the Dalai Lama a happy

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRIs

2005-06-16 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I would venture that teen (and adult) use of SSIs has greatly reduced violence and

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread lupidus108
--- That phrase is the ultimate thought-stopper, as wielded by the TM fundamentalist. It is *supposed* to stop the discussion. *Nothing* trumps purity of the teaching. *Anything* is permissible to defend* it, including acts that are illegal (such as dismissing a student from a

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Hitler Card

2005-06-16 Thread Patrick Gillam
akasha_108 wrote: (some sage on the list in prior years said that if you mention Hitler in your argument you automatically lose Godwin's law: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-16 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Primordial Shiva ... You are simply Primordial, Infinite Consciousness, Pure Shiva Exactly when is Shiva not Primordial or Pure. Does using these adjectives

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Send the Dalai Lama a 70th birthday greeting

2005-06-16 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/16/05 2:29 PM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send the Dalai Lama a 70th birthday greeting Dear Friend of the Dalai Lama, On July 6th, 2005, Tenzin Gyatso, the 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet, will turn 70. Here is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Good article on autism-mercury

2005-06-16 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, easyone200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having said that, for you to condemn all western medicine is absurd. The elimination of smallpox, polio (almost) and the reduction of many other horrific diseases seems to me to be a crowning achievement of that

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread lupidus108
For a change, I'd gotten assigned a decent room. It was on the fourth floor, sunny, had its own bathroom. What is not to like? So it's about two weeks into the course and we get a new German course leader. He shows up, is assigned *his* room and, one can presume, doesn't like it much.

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can understand the descision of this board. I would'nt want an initiator myself eating icecream all the time, not being able to take instruction from his teacher or to be unable to articulate himself. As he

[FairfieldLife] 'Child Sacrifices in London...'

2005-06-16 Thread Robert Gimbel
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[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-16 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Primordial Shiva ... You are simply Primordial, Infinite Consciousness,

[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRIs

2005-06-16 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like a good trade-off to me. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The last statement is important. I work with people clinicaly who's lives have been transformed for the better

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-16 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Primordial Shiva ...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article on autism-mercury

2005-06-16 Thread Sal Sunshine
Supposedly hand-washing has saved more lives than all the antibiotics in the world. And every other industrialized nation has banned mercury/thimerosal except the US. Denial just doesn't cut it. Sal On Jun 16, 2005, at 2:15 PM, easyone200 wrote: How about those terrible antibiotics? How

Re: [FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can understand the decision of this board. I wouldn't want an initiator myself eating ice cream all the time, not being able to take instruction from his teacher or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Good article on autism-mercury

2005-06-16 Thread easyone200
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Supposedly hand-washing has saved more lives than all the antibiotics in the world. And every other industrialized nation has banned mercury/thimerosal except the US. Denial just doesn't cut it. Sal On Jun

[FairfieldLife] Re: Good article on autism-mercury

2005-06-16 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, easyone200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having said that, for you to condemn all western medicine is absurd. The elimination of smallpox, polio (almost) and the reduction of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Send the Dalai Lama a 70th birthday greeting

2005-06-16 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/16/05 2:29 PM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send the Dalai Lama a 70th birthday greeting Dear Friend of the Dalai Lama, On July

[FairfieldLife] Re: Good article on autism-mercury

2005-06-16 Thread easyone200
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, easyone200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having said that, for you to condemn all western medicine

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-16 Thread anonymousff
Vaj, Some comments: (1) Some time ago, during a discussion of Patanjali's Yoga Sutras, you referenced someone else's writings on CC (or perhaps turiyatita; this was someone in Patanjali's tradition from centuries ago, I believe). You made the comment that they described many characteristics

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