Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-10 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
"oh...3 AM - Ah, great to sleep in, eh?", Ann thought sleepily to herself, in Canadian-speak. Having slept in her jodphurs, and helmet, she pulled on her boots by the side of the bed, then completing her riding outfit, she strode across the sumptuous and endless bedroom, out to the balcony, to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-10 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Great idea! Here's mine: He removed his scuba regulator, “What a perfectly fine day!” Fleetwood exclaimed, as he looked approvingly around in his undersea club house. Well, actually, from the outside, it was a shipping container, inside a s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-10 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Great idea! Here's mine: He removed his scuba regulator, “What a perfectly fine day!” Fleetwood exclaimed, as he looked approvingly around in his undersea club house. Well, actually, from the outside, it was a shipping container, inside a swimming pool. He was already thinking of painting it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-10 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Barry, humming his fave Bruce Cockburn tune, steps out, notices the floor got all wet - "let the fukin' roomies mop it up..." "Hey good lookin'..." he says to the mirror, imagining him and Bruce, pals, just like him and Curtis...bros, in a ro

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-10 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: "blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 11:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact? Ok, let's deal with YOUR issue here. You called me "the 12 year old" a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-10 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, Jedi, a reasoned response. But for Barry to focus on his own issues? Does the "snowball in hell" analogy come to mind. (but, most brilliant poster here?) can you rein that one back, just a tad. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Ok, let's deal with YOUR

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-10 Thread blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ok, let's deal with YOUR issue here. You called me "the 12 year old" a couple of days ago. It's these kind of snide remarks that neutralise, all the good points you make, and turns things here sour. If you keep your criticisms impersonal, you would certainly be the most brilliant poster he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
severe. Much too severe. Please reconsider. Oh, the humanity, the humanity! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: "blue_bungalow_2@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 1:56 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Ali

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I think what we see here, and it is rather humorous, is this martyrdom meme he's created. And then threatening someone with putting him on his DNR list. Yes, I do feel some pity. Michael, Michael, step in here. Tell him again how you were launched into ecstasy reading Road Trip. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Please reconsider. Oh, the humanity, the humanity! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: "blue_bungalow_2@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 1:56 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant fo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
lk about with each other, because there is nothing at the end of the rainbow in this business. You end up where you started, with a net loss. From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 9:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
dLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Salyavin, If you believe that the universe is based in consciousness, I don't. That's the probl

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
ife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 1:56 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact? You know Steve, it took others years to find his [Barry's] true character. Bob Price managed to find that out in just a few minutes

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Richard, Barry wouldn't understand you're talking about him. He knows he's right all the time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On 10/9/2014 3:54 AM, salyavin808 wrote: The stuff they believe doesn't need to be reasonable, it doesn't need to follow the laws of physics or c

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
dence that proves their belief to be nonsense, they believe even more strongly. Truly an accomplishment... From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogro

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/9/2014 4:10 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: It also really bothers him that we continually comment on him, not giving a fig for his response. He apparently like to feel embattled, and almost as a martyr, who tries his best to bring The Light to the unwashed masse

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
YOU ARE SIMPLY NOT INTERESTING ENOUGH FOR ME TO BOTHER ARGUING WITH. YOU NEVER WILL BE, NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT ME. > On 10/9/2014 12:43 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: > *You really told him, bawee. Guess he got under your skin. Did your keyboard melt while you were

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
ut a major caveat to the effect that he's trying to fit what he knows of physics into an ancient belief system and that no one else agrees with him. Apart from the other yagya pedlars on the conference circuit obviously. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It also really bothers him that we continually comment on him, not giving a fig for his response. He apparently like to feel embattled, and almost as a martyr, who tries his best to bring The Light to the unwashed masses. He is really quite crazy, now. About ten years ago, Barry was all about be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: "blue_bungalow_2@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 1:56 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact? You know Steve, it took others years t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : You know Steve, it took others years to find his true character. Bob Price managed to find that out in just a few minutes time. Bob's so sharp, Uncle Tantra cannot face him. Uncle Tantra's criticism is designed to be offensive in a sadistic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: "blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 1:56 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact? You know Steve, it took others years to find his [Barry's]true character. Bob Price

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
The stuff they believe doesn't need to be reasonable, it doesn't need to follow the laws of physics or chemistry, and it doesn't depend on any kind of evidence. In fact, when presented with evidence that proves their belief to be nonsense, they believe even more strongly. Truly an accomplishm

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/9/2014 6:56 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* "blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 9, 2014 1:29 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact? R

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
eldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact? From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Sometimes I think that Maharishi's "greatest accomplishment" should be liste

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : it makes them feel more self-important and 'special' for believing it. Now, it may come as a complete shock to you, dude, but you appear pretty damned self-important, and 'special', most of the time, pronouncing judgment on a lot of good peo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
vidence. In fact, when presented with evidence that proves their belief to be nonsense, they believe even more strongly. Truly an accomplishment... -------------------- *From:* salyavin808 *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, Octobe

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/9/2014 6:56 AM, blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: You know Steve, it took others years to find his true character. Bob Price managed to find that out in just a few minutes time. Bob's so sharp, Uncle Tantra cannot face him. Uncle Tantra's criticism is designed to be offensive

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Sometimes I think that Maharishi's "greatest accomplishment" should be listed as having taken so many at-one-time-fairly-intelligent people and, over time, turned them into weak-minded, gullible idiots like jr_esq, Share, srijau, Lawson, and ot

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/9/2014 6:33 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Frankly, doing absolutely nothing except stirring the pot here, makes you appear as kind of a loser, to normal people. > /Having been a military brat myself I can understand how an expat like Barry can be lonely and fee

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
and found something that he could consider "proof" of what he already wanted to believe, he stopped listening to anything else. I tend to believe that Faith is synonymous with Willful Ignorance. The moment you decide that you "know" the "truth" of something, th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/9/2014 3:54 AM, salyavin808 wrote: The stuff they believe doesn't need to be reasonable, it doesn't need to follow the laws of physics or chemistry, and it doesn't depend on any kind of evidence. In fact, when presented with evidence that proves their belief to be nonsense, they believe e

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/9/2014 1:58 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The stuff they believe doesn't need to be reasonable, it doesn't need to follow the laws of physics or chemistry, and it doesn't depend on any kind of evidence. In fact, when presented with evidence that proves their

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
014 1:29 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact? Relax Steve, have you re-incarnated as Judy here? Some change seems to have come over you. Listen, you just can't bother about him. You will be wasting your life that way. Judy wasted hers. Jim wasted his. His in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
s of years. The moment he heard it, and found something that he could consider "proof" of what he already wanted to believe, he stopped listening to anything else. I tend to believe that Faith is synonymous with Willful Ignorance. The moment you decide that you "know" th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
y believe even more strongly. Truly an accomplishment... ____________ From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: "blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 1:29 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact? Relax Steve, have you re-incarnated as Judy here? Some change seems to have com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
ready wanted to believe, he stopped listening to anything else. I tend to believe that Faith is synonymous with Willful Ignorance. The moment you decide that you "know" the "truth" of something, that is the point at which you stop looking for deeper truths and being open to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
that he could consider "proof" of what he already wanted to believe, he stopped listening to anything else. I tend to believe that Faith is synonymous with Willful Ignorance. The moment you decide that you "know" the "truth" of something, that is the point at which you stop

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
nd of evidence. In fact, when presented with evidence that proves their belief to be nonsense, they believe even more strongly. Truly an accomplishment... From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too D

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
and found something that he could consider "proof" of what he already wanted to believe, he stopped listening to anything else. I tend to believe that Faith is synonymous with Willful Ignorance. The moment you decide that you "know" the "truth" of something,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
that he could consider "proof" of what he already wanted to believe, he stopped listening to anything else. I tend to believe that Faith is synonymous with Willful Ignorance. The moment you decide that you "know" the "truth" of something, that is the point at which y

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
conference circuit obviously. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Salyavin, If you believe that the universe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Setting aside the efficacy of those who maintain there are are other beings out there, you don't even have their story straight. You invent a narrative contrary to their position and attempt to discredit it on that basis. You've really developed a bad habit along these lines. Suggestio

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
d consider "proof" of what he already wanted to believe, he stopped listening to anything else. I tend to believe that Faith is synonymous with Willful Ignorance. The moment you decide that you "know" the "truth" of something, that is the point at which you stop loo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread salyavin808
g to fit what he knows of physics into an ancient belief system and that no one else agrees with him. Apart from the other yagya pedlars on the conference circuit obviously. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:11 AM Subject: [Fairfiel

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-09 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
n808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Salyavin, If you believe that the universe is based in consciousness, I don't. That's the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-08 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Salyavin, If you believe that the universe is based in consciousness, I don't. That's the problem, just "believing" stuff about the universe and hoping you can find enough things to justify beliefs you have already decided are true witho

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-08 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Salyavin, If you believe that the universe is based in consciousness, then our thoughts are somehow "entangled" in a quantum sense with the rest of the universe. So, it is possible to communicate telepathically with other sentient beings instantaneously in our galaxy or with the rest of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-08 Thread Duveyoung
This discussion pretty much covers the next space travel options. Interstellar Flight: Risks and Assumptions http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=31706 http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=31706 Interstellar Flight: Risks and Assumptions http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=31706 The interstellar

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-08 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Edg, I'm somewhat thinking along the same line that you're pointing out here. For example, if the universe is based on consciousness, then our thoughts are instantaneously connected with the rest of the universe. IOW, our thoughts are "entangled" in a quantum sense with the rest of the univ

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-08 Thread Duveyoung
The speed of light problem is solvable if The Absolute is God. The mechanics: a person on Earth, being perfectly enlightened, (not merely in CC,) deconstructs his/her body/mind system with a "final" thought/prayer to indicate "to" the Absolute what is relatively intended. Then that person goes

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-08 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Blueb2, The Urvasi story can be interpreted in many ways. The late Srila Prabhupada of ISKCON fame stated, in his commentary to the Srimad Bhagavatam, that this story was about in-vitro fertilization. Why? Because the story involved two rishis who saw Urvasi taking her bath by the river.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-08 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : S3, That's a good question. We may not get any message back at all since the radio waves are relatively slow in comparison to the large distances involved in the scale of the Milky Way and the entire universe. Also, the earth-like planets

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-08 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
S3, That's a good question. We may not get any message back at all since the radio waves are relatively slow in comparison to the large distances involved in the scale of the Milky Way and the entire universe. Also, the earth-like planets near us may not have any advanced civilizations like

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-08 Thread blue_bungalow2
--- wrote : Yes, probably so, if the means of communication is through light or radio waves. As such, the speed of communication is limited by the speed of light. But it is theoretically possible to contact ETs through telepathic means or lucid dreaming. Why? Because consciousness

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-07 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
According to King Tony, the planets are part of our physiology which are located in our brain. MMY mentioned that the planets are the impulses of intelligence. As such, a part of us has a Martian quality. So, depending on the situation, the Martian impulse becomes more prominent in our mind

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-07 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes, probably so, if the means of communication is through light or radio waves. I enjoyed that moment in the movie Contact where the first TV signal that aliens would have received from Earth was Hitler's speech at the 1936 Olympics. The

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?

2014-10-07 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
At the speed of light, any Martians, for example, are four minutes away. Nuke a dinner in the microwave - by the time it is done, you got Martians, door to door. That quick. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes, probably so, if the means of communication is through light or ra