[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" wrote: > > > > IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT > > FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF IOWA > > CENTRAL DIVISION > > > > ESTATE OF LEVI ANDELIN BUTLER, > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint - Butler case - Where was Levi ?

2006-03-15 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT > FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF IOWA > CENTRAL DIVISION > > ESTATE OF LEVI ANDELIN BUTLER, > by and through his Personal Representative, JOSHUA BUTLER, > Plaintiff, > v. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT > FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF IOWA > CENTRAL DIVISION > > ESTATE OF LEVI ANDELIN BUTLER, > by and through his Personal Representative, JOSHUA BUTLER, > Plaintiff, > v. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: [...] > > Or from theperspective of someone who can float or whatever. No- > one > > has ever seen MMY float (well, there was a guy I knew whose TMing > GF

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > he said a lot more, which you snipped. Right. I snipped everything but the specific point I was commenting on of Barry's with regard to what you said. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mrfishey2001" > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" > > wrote: > > > > > > Intelligent doesn't necessarily mean in touch wi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mrfishey2001" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" > wrote: > > > Intelligent doesn't necessarily mean in touch with reality. The Bush > admin is filled with PhDs. Many evangelicals who think th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 3/15/06 11:41 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > MMY floating -- or anyone connected with the TMO floating -- is the > > only thing that can save the Movement at this point... > > So a movement c

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread mrfishey2001
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Intelligent doesn't necessarily mean in touch with reality. The Bush admin is filled with PhDs. Many evangelicals who think they're floating up to heaven in the rapture any day now hold down jobs requiring g

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 3/15/06 11:41 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > MMY floating -- or anyone connected with the TMO floating -- > > is the only thing that can save the Movement at this point... > > So a movement

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > For God's sake, she was just doing her best as she saw it, not > using a "tactic" > > to "alienate people from what they're experiencing." You always >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/15/06 11:41 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > MMY floating -- or anyone connected with the TMO floating -- is the > only thing that can save the Movement at this point... So a movement can be morally and financially corrupt, its leader can damn democracy and praise Robert Mugab

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > A

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 3/15/06 4:37 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I'm actually somewhat surprised MUM had insurance. > > It must be a legal requirement for a school in Iowa. > > MUM has been sued for negligence befor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > A few things don't quite make sense: if Wysong felt he was > > > in personal d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How Turquoise loves knocking down his straw man! I don't know anyone in > the TM movement who thinks like this. People are much more intelligent than > he seems to think. Heh. NOt in my experience at MIU. The stude

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > It's a pretty strong indictment of the claim that > > > > > TM makes one more able to deal with 'stress' and > > > > > function effectively in the real world. I can only > > > > > hope that the next time I fly

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/15/06 9:30 AM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I remember last summer when MMY inaugerated Sat Yuga - talking with > campus types about what that meant. My favorite was that there would > be no more winter in Iowa. As a cross-country skier, I'm afraid they were right about

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case on 3/15/06 9:26 AM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's tragic.  Do you remember who they were, Rick? No. On Mar 15, 2006, at 9:02 AM, Rick Archer wrote: MUM has been sued for negligence before and would

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread feste37
Well, Mark, I don't know whether you noticed or not, but we hardly had a winter in Iowa this year! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread feste37
he said a lot more, which you snipped. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > How Turquoise loves knocking down his straw man! I don't know > > anyone in the TM movement who thinks like thi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > How Turquoise loves knocking down his straw man! I > > don't know anyone in the TM movement who thinks like > > this. People are much more intelligent th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread Sal Sunshine
That's tragic. Do you remember who they were, Rick? Sal On Mar 15, 2006, at 9:02 AM, Rick Archer wrote: MUM has been sued for negligence before and would have gone under if it hadn't had insurance. One instance was when the south entrance to campus was closed with a cable, with no light or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How Turquoise loves knocking down his straw man! I > don't know anyone in the TM movement who thinks like > this. People are much more intelligent than he seems > to think. Fine. Then tell me what you think two part

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/15/06 4:37 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm actually somewhat surprised MUM had insurance. > It must be a legal requirement for a school in Iowa. MUM has been sued for negligence before and would have gone under if it hadn't had insurance. One instance was when the south entr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > > > wrote: > > > > --- In Fair

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > > > It's a pretty strong indictment of the claim that > > > > > > TM makes one more able to deal with 'stress' and > > > > > > function effe

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread Vaj
On Mar 15, 2006, at 9:27 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote: > I think the real culture problem here is the tmo's obsession with > getting good PR and avoiding bad PR to keep up the perfect image. Not > wanting news of an attack to leak out kept faculty and administrators > from contacting the proper au

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Am

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > > > It's a pretty strong indictment of the claim that > > > > > > TM makes one more able to deal with 'stress' and > > > > > > function effe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > It's a pretty strong indictment of the claim that > > > > > TM makes one more able to deal with 'stress' and > > > > > function effectively in the real world. I can only > > > > > hope that the next time I fl

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > A few things don't quite make sense: if Wysong felt he was > > > in personal d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > A few things don't qu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How Turquoise loves knocking down his straw man! I don't know > anyone in the TM movement who thinks like this. People are much > more intelligent than he seems to think. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Turq

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > It's a pretty strong indictment of the claim that > > > > > TM makes one more able to deal with 'stress' and > > > > > function effectively in the real world. I can only > > > > > hope that the next time I fly

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > A few things don't quite make sense: if Wysong felt he was > > in personal danger why did he go to another room and meditate > > (unless he thinks his M

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread feste37
How Turquoise loves knocking down his straw man! I don't know anyone in the TM movement who thinks like this. People are much more intelligent than he seems to think. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > It's a pretty strong indictment of the c

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > Am I the only one who, upon reading the brief, felt that > > > much of what

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread TurquoiseB
> > > > It's a pretty strong indictment of the claim that > > > > TM makes one more able to deal with 'stress' and > > > > function effectively in the real world. I can only > > > > hope that the next time I fly the person in charge > > > > of air traffic control does NOT practice TM. "Oh... > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > A few things don't qui

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > A few things don't quite make sense: if Wysong felt he was > > > in personal danger why did

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > A few things don't quite make sense: if Wysong felt he was > > in personal danger why did he go to another room and meditate > > (unless he thinks his Ma

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A few things don't quite make sense: if Wysong felt he was > in personal danger why did he go to another room and meditate > (unless he thinks his Maharishi effect of one was sufficient > protection or something)? He

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > Am I the only one who, upon reading the brief, felt that > > much of what was written represented to a very great > > degree how I felt the movemen

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > You may have a point. I was objecting to the use of the > word "tactic," which > > makes it sound insincere and even sinister. > > > > I think the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For God's sake, she was just doing her best as she saw it, not using a "tactic" > to "alienate people from what they're experiencing." You always take the most > negative interpretation possible, while posing as an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread Vaj
On Mar 14, 2006, at 4:30 PM, jyouells2000 wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT > > FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF IOWA > > CENTRAL DIVISION > > > > ESTATE OF LEVI ANDELIN BUTLER, > > by and through his

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/14/06 5:39 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I can't imagine why they even thought it ok to put him on a plane > home the > next day!!! He probably wouldn't have been allowed on a plane in this post-9/11 world. Or even prior to 9/11, if he was that obviously crazy.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] > > > Good points, Bob, but how a reasonable person -- even someone not > trained in the security guard rts -- could "fear for his personal > safety", hear the person placed in his care who just stabbed >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [...] > > They ignored the psychologist's recommendation. Fatal mistake. > > "Dr. Robert Boyer, a clinical psychologist and member of the > University faculty, was contacted. He advised that Shuvender Sem > was dangerous

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > If the particulars regarding Joel Wysong are accurate here, I'm > sorry > > but I'll retract my previous posts from yesterday saying he > shouldn'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > If the particulars regarding Joel Wysong are accurate here, I'm > sorry > > but I'll retract my previous posts from yesterday saying he > shouldn'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > > on 3/14/06 4:05 PM, feste37 at feste37@ wrote: > > > > > For God's sake, she was just doing her best as she saw it, > > > > Of course she was. Ev

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > wrote: > > > > > > Which article are you referring to, Shemp? > > > > > > Sal > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > If the particulars regarding Joel Wysong are accurate here, I'm > sorry > > but I'll retract my previous posts from yesterday saying he > sho

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If the particulars regarding Joel Wysong are accurate here, I'm sorry > but I'll retract my previous posts from yesterday saying he shouldn't > feel guilty or responsible over the death of Levi. > > If the partic

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 3/14/06 3:30 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > >> > >> IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT > >> FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF IOWA

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/14/06 5:12 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >You can't expect some faculty member with no experience in > dealing with the wild and crazy to be able to handle the situation -- > that's why the school had security guards, that's what Fairfield cops > are for -- it was a decision by to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread bbrigante
> IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT > FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF IOWA > CENTRAL DIVISION > > ESTATE OF LEVI ANDELIN BUTLER, > by and through his Personal Representative, JOSHUA BUTLER, > Plaintiff, > v. > MAHARISHI UNIVERSITY OF MANAGEMENT and > MAHARISHI VEDIC EDUCATION DEVELOPMENT

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If the particulars regarding Joel Wysong are accurate here, I'm sorry > but I'll retract my previous posts from yesterday saying he shouldn't > feel guilty or responsible over the death of Levi. > > If the part

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You may have a point. I was objecting to the use of the word "tactic," which > makes it sound insincere and even sinister. > > I think the trick is knowing when the technique of "bringing in the second > element" i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread feste37
You may have a point. I was objecting to the use of the word "tactic," which makes it sound insincere and even sinister. I think the trick is knowing when the technique of "bringing in the second element" is appropriate for the situation, and when something else is required. It's easy to be wi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 3/14/06 4:05 PM, feste37 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > For God's sake, she was just doing her best as she saw it, > > Of course she was. Everyone does. > > >not using a > > "tactic" > > to "alienate peopl

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/14/06 4:05 PM, feste37 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > For God's sake, she was just doing her best as she saw it, Of course she was. Everyone does. >not using a > "tactic" > to "alienate people from what they're experiencing." That wasn't her intention, but that's often the net effect of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For God's sake, she was just doing her best as she saw it, ...then "her best" really sucked... It's time that someone in a position of authority at MUM -- from MMY on down -- show some responsibility for this thing.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread feste37
For God's sake, she was just doing her best as she saw it, not using a "tactic" to "alienate people from what they're experiencing." You always take the most negative interpretation possible, while posing as an impartial, detached observer. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 14, 2006, at 3:54 PM, Rick Archer wrote: This whole document is worth reading. Certain things jumped out at me, such as Suzy Dillbeck trying to get students upset about the pen attack - some still crying - to forget about what had just happened and focus on a Maharishi tape. Apparently

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 3/14/06 3:30 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > >> > >> IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT > >> FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF IOW

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT > > FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF IOWA > > CENTRAL DIVISION > > > > ESTATE OF LEVI ANDELIN BUTLER, > > by

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/14/06 3:30 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT >> FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF IOWA >> CENTRAL DIVISION >> >> ESTATE OF LEVI ANDELIN BUTLER, >> by and throu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT > FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF IOWA > CENTRAL DIVISION > > ESTATE OF LEVI ANDELIN BUTLER, > by and through his Personal Representative, JOSHUA BUTLER, > Plaintiff, > v. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > If the particulars regarding Joel Wysong are accurate here, I'm sorry > > but I'll retract my previous posts from yesterday saying he shouldn'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If the particulars regarding Joel Wysong are accurate here, I'm sorry > but I'll retract my previous posts from yesterday saying he shouldn't > feel guilty or responsible over the death of Levi. > > If the partic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread Sal Sunshine
Thanks. I knew about the rummaging, but not the clapping and waving of hands, or the part about JW fearing for his safety. Quite a revelation. And I agree with your conclusion. Sal On Mar 14, 2006, at 1:20 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTE

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > wrote: > > > > Which article are you referring to, Shemp? > > > > Sal > > > Although they didn't copy and paste from the brief to my posting, I > am referr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Which article are you referring to, Shemp? > > Sal Although they didn't copy and paste from the brief to my posting, I am referring to articles 57-63 Articles 57-63 are reproduced here (sorry, without the number

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread Sal Sunshine
Oops--never mind. On Mar 14, 2006, at 1:06 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF IOWA CENTRAL DIVISION On Mar 14, 2006, at 1:15 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote: Which article are you referring to, Shemp? Sal On Mar 14, 2006, at 1:11 PM, shempmcgur

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread Sal Sunshine
Which article are you referring to, Shemp? Sal On Mar 14, 2006, at 1:11 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: If the particulars regarding Joel Wysong are accurate here, I'm sorry but I'll retract my previous posts from yesterday saying he shouldn't feel guilty or responsible over the death of Levi. If

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If the particulars regarding Joel Wysong are accurate here, I'm sorry > but I'll retract my previous posts from yesterday saying he shouldn't > feel guilty or responsible over the death of Levi. > > If the part

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread shempmcgurk
If the particulars regarding Joel Wysong are accurate here, I'm sorry but I'll retract my previous posts from yesterday saying he shouldn't feel guilty or responsible over the death of Levi. If the particulars of the brief are true, he should feel VERY responsible and VERY guilty. He added hor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa complaint -- Butler case

2006-03-14 Thread shempmcgurk
Sorry, it appears the numbers of each article in the brief didn't paste properly, nor did the more readable format. I've emailed Rick the file separately and if he adds it to the files section it may appear in a more palatable version. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---