Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-26 Thread catatonya
ember 18, 2006 5:24 PM Subject: Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? At 03:19 PM 11/18/2006, you wrote: I agree.. I did not know how dangerous those foam mats from Costco areMy Tiger has just had his second surgery, the mats are gone,,my pocketbook is dry, We

RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-19 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
soon here... _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 4:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? Please know that no one is picking on you. We are asking so many

Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-18 Thread Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn
Cats will chew up some odd things. I'm glad Tiger is recovering now, I hope he is feeling better very soon! Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost Spay&Neuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.u

Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-18 Thread Kelly L
ukemia.org>felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 5:24 PM Subject: Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? At 03:19 PM 11/18/2006, you wrote: I agree.. I did not know how dangerous those foam mats from Costco areMy Tiger has just had his second surgery,

Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-18 Thread Marylyn
m: Kelly L To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 5:24 PM Subject: Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? At 03:19 PM 11/18/2006, you wrote: I agree.. I did not know how dangerous those foam mats from Costco areMy Tiger has just had his seco

Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-18 Thread Kelly L
fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Susan Hoffman To: <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 5:00 PM Subject: RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF

Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-18 Thread Marylyn
: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 5:00 PM Subject: RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? It is very easy to get paranoid with FIP. I always worry about it if someone misses a meal or seems to be sleeping more than usual. But don't let yourself

RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-18 Thread Susan Hoffman
despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? Dry FIP is very hard to diagnose because the general symptoms are consistent with so many other diseases. It is very easy to misdiagnose dry FIP and miss the real cause of something. Also, the rapid onset, ages of some of the cats, and the numb

Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-18 Thread Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn
I just don't know Hideyo it sounds like you're doing everything good to me. You should know that organic doesn't necessarily mean safe when it comes to cats. Some of the "organic" things they use as cleaners can be twice as toxic to cats as plain old chemical cleaners. Read the ingredients

RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-18 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
ECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 11:41 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? Do you have ANY houseplants Hideyo, any plants inside at all, or where the cats can access them? Do yo

RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-18 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
OTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 12:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? Dry FIP is very hard to diagnose because the general symptoms are consistent with so many other diseases. It is very easy

RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-18 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 12:35 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? If you look at Dr. Addie's description of dry FIP on her website, it does sound like it's possible that Hideyo's cats

Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-18 Thread Susan Hoffman
Dry FIP is very hard to diagnose because the general symptoms are consistent with so many other diseases. It is very easy to misdiagnose dry FIP and miss the real cause of something. Also, the rapid onset, ages of some of the cats, and the number who are being stricken in such a short period o

Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-18 Thread Lernermichelle
If you look at Dr. Addie's description of dry FIP on her website, it does sound like it's possible that Hideyo's cats are getting it. Michelle

Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-18 Thread Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn
Do you have ANY houseplants Hideyo, any plants inside at all, or where the cats can access them? Do you have any peeling paint on anything (walls, windowsills, tables, cabinets)? Is there any stuffing or fibers that the cats can touch hanging out of any of your furniture or beds? Can the cats ac

RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread Susan Hoffman
6:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? If Olive's necropsy showed FIP, then maybe they really all do have FIP. It has not made sense to me, given that FIP experts say it is a mutation, not a virus in itself. But maybe p

RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Yep.. I had started a couple of weeks ago.. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 6:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? My sheep Lamby got ARF

RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
2006 6:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? If Olive's necropsy showed FIP, then maybe they really all do have FIP. It has not made sense to me, given that FIP experts say it is a mutation, not a virus in itself. But maybe particu

Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread Marylyn
7:04 PM Subject: RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? What are they? Sorry, language problem here --J -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Friday, Nov

Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread Lernermichelle
My sheep Lamby got ARF from copper poisoning last year and her creatinine went up to 12.5. They did not think she would make it. They did IV fluids for 5 days and chelation therapy for the copper and, thank god, she pulled through and her kidney values came down to 2.7, where they had plat

Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread Lernermichelle
If Olive's necropsy showed FIP, then maybe they really all do have FIP. It has not made sense to me, given that FIP experts say it is a mutation, not a virus in itself. But maybe particular corona viruses are more likely to mutate or something, and maybe that is the one going around that

Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread Marylyn
riday, November 17, 2006 5:47 PM Subject: RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? I think that Rikki's kidney has started to shut down,,I am not going to take him to a vet any more - He wanted to come home and I promised to him that I wouldn't do anything to stress him o

RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
What are they? Sorry, language problem here --:-) _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 6:05 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? OK--long shot: Do you have

Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread Marylyn
t. Francis - Original Message - From: Hideyo Yamamoto To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 5:44 PM Subject: RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? I usually don't give any herbal stuff - as it can be tricky especially Chinese one - esp

Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread Marylyn
deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Susan Hoffman To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 4:50 PM Subject: RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - AR

RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? At 04:10 PM 11/17/2006, you wrote: All my good thoughts are with you, It is so hard,...were they giving him a slow IV drip??I am just asking technical questions as I have been though that,, I did not bring my cat home,,he

RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread Kelly L
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly L Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 4:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? At 03:47 PM 11/17/2006, you wrote: Pleasae,,, If it is ARF...it takes a while to resolve and he needs the IV

RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
ave a faith that he will get better --- _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly L Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 4:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? At 03:47 PM 11/17/2006, you wrote: Pleasae,,, If it i

RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread Kelly L
: Friday, November 17, 2006 4:39 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? At 03:27 PM 11/17/2006, you wrote: so glad the vet did a necropsy on Olive for you, Maybe I watch to much TV and my work on the hospital, sometimes getting a good diagnosis is

RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
TECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly L Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 4:39 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? At 03:27 PM 11/17/2006, you wrote: so glad the vet did a necropsy on Olive for you, Maybe I watch to much TV and my work on th

RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 4:40 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? What about herbal or alternative medicines? Some things that are OK for people are toxic to cats. Perhaps walk through

RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread Susan Hoffman
or CNS… - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 3:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? Sally works with FeLV+ cats and kittens. FIP is muc

RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread Kelly L
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 8:30 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? Hideyo, I am still not convinced they have FIP, still. It is very unlikely for so many to get it at once. Can you consult with an internist? Michelle

RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 3:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? Sally works with FeLV+ cats and kittens. FIP is much more common in cats who are FeLV+. At one time it was thought that

RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread Susan Hoffman
ct: Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? Hideyo, I am still not convinced they have FIP, still. It is very unlikely for so many to get it at once. Can you consult with an internist? Michelle In a message dated 11/17/2006 10:13:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
8:30 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? Hideyo, I am still not convinced they have FIP, still. It is very unlikely for so many to get it at once. Can you consult with an internist? Michelle In a message dated 11/17/2006 10:13:03 A.M. Eastern S

Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread Lernermichelle
Hideyo, I am still not convinced they have FIP, still. It is very unlikely for so many to get it at once. Can you consult with an internist? Michelle In a message dated 11/17/2006 10:13:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What a nice things to say, Marlyn – you ar

Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread cindy reasoner
I hope your Rikki starts feeling better soon. I will be praying for him. Cindy Reasoner --- Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, please pray for my most gentle kitty, Rikki - > Rikki was abandoned by > someone who lived at an apartment where I was > renting several years > ago,, the

Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread Marylyn
ineleukemia.org Subject: Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? Rikki is proof that there is a god. Who else could ensure that such a loving little one could find a safe, caring home with someone strong enough to handle all the problems he and his friends have? And who else cou

RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
sease and I just can't change that.. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 1:47 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? Rikki is proof that there is a god.

Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread Marylyn
St. Francis - Original Message - From: Hideyo Yamamoto To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:09 AM Subject: RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? Thank you, Marylyn -it's strange when you feel that you don't have any tears l

RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
o: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org ; CRF Family <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 1:54 AM Subject: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? Hi, please pray for my most gentle kitty, Rikki - Rikki was abandoned by someone

Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-17 Thread Marylyn
06 1:54 AM Subject: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP? Hi, please pray for my most gentle kitty, Rikki - Rikki was abandoned by someone who lived at an apartment where I was renting several years ago,, they left him behind.. he was living under the bush until I decided to bring him

another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?

2006-11-16 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Hi, please pray for my most gentle kitty, Rikki - Rikki was abandoned by someone who lived at an apartment where I was renting several years ago,, they left him behind.. he was living under the bush until I decided to bring him home - he somehow was tested incorrectly as FIV a few years ago, but it