Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant?
The incubation period is supposed to be 3 months for FeLV, & 6 months for FIV, per all the vets I've dealt with. But I always like to wait a little longer just to be sure. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Natalie wrote: From: Natalie Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 11:12 PM I only mix my own cats with the FIV+ onesyes, FeLV is definitely much worse - FIV is absolutely safe with healthy cats unless they hate each other and fight! I agree, I don't think anyone knows how long exactly it would take for a positive FeLV to show up after a negativewith FIV, it is about three months (depending, of course, on when the cat was exposed at the time of test that was positive.) I wish we knew more - and how not to have the sick ones suffer. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of create_me_...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 10:36 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? It should show up in 3 month but I don't feel safe until it's been 6 months. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Maureen Olvey Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 22:27:11 To: Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? So you think FeLV would show up by 3 months after the first combo test? I'm just wondering what the maximum amount of time it can take to show up on a test once they've been exposed to FeLV. Someone recently said it can take up to a year before the test would indicate that the cat is positive. I wonder if that is true. Yeah, I've have heard that a cat with no symptoms could be a carrier of FeLV. FIV is harder to spread than FeLV according to everything I've read. It can only be spread by a deep bite wound. The saliva carrying the FIV virus has to go directly into the bloodstream. It cannot be spread by mutual grooming or sharing food bowls. So if the cat isn't a biter then there is no danger of him spreading FIV to other cats in the household. That's why I've never separated my FIV cat from the others. "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain > Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 22:02:07 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? > > Ideally, when a cat is tested for anything, FIV/FeLV, it should be isolated > for three months and retested. However, rescue groups cannot do it because > of space limitations, especially isolation areas. > When a cat tests negative, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's true - the > cat may just have been exposed to it, and it would show up 3 months > later > I've never had a FIV cat living with healthy ones, nor can I do it as a > rescue organization. However, we had one cat that tested negative for > FIV/FeLV, and many years later, started being illmy vet asked for some > blood test at the lab, but they mistakenly tested for FIV - it turned out > that she was positive. No one living with her ever became sick, to this > day. She died about two years later at age 14/15. However, FIV is not as > serious as FeLV, which seems increasingly more mysterious to me after having > been reading all the posts about FeLV+ cats living with healthy ones. The > two FeLV+ cats we have, are very healthy, exhibit absolutely no signs of any > symptoms. I'm not sure what exactly it means when someone says that a FeLV > cat with no symptoms could be a carrier; it can't be that the cat is > perfectly healthy and can't mean that at some point, will not become > symptomatic, does it? I do everything I can to keep them very healthy with > supplements, good food, TLC, etc. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 8:11 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? > > > I've heard from some of the vets that FeLV can hide in the bone marrow for a > while before ever showing up on a combo test. How long do you think that > can happen before the combo tests shows positive? Anyone have experience > with this? If the FeLV + cat and the other cat have been living together > for a year and the healthy cat's combo test was negative after a year > together with lots of exposure, is there a chance it is still hiding in the > healthy cat's bone marrow and not showing up yet? It seems to m
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
I worked a hoarding case with 26 unvaccinated cats. 3 of them turned out to be FeLV positive. We quarantined the remaining cats for 6 months & none showed up FeLV positive after the 6 months. I was amazed. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Maureen Olvey wrote: From: Maureen Olvey Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 10:48 PM My FIV cat has never been vaccinated against FeLV which is why I assumed he would get it from the other kitty. Doesn't make sense. Oh well, I'm glad he didn't get it. Maureen > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > From: create_me_...@yahoo.com > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 02:26:16 + > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > My FIV cat lived on and off for 10 years with FeLV cats & never got it. Of > coarse he was vaccinated. > Beth > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: Maureen Olvey > Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:18:40 > To: > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > > Matter of fact, I have an FIV + cat living with me that hasn't contracted the > FeLV. I'm not quite sure how that has happened because he should have gotten > it right away. I'm going to have him tested a couple more times over the > next few months to be sure. Maybe FeLV isn't as contagious as they say. I'm > still shaking my head on that one. > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > > > > > Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:26:53 -0700 > > From: jgonza...@pacbell.net > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > > > I realize now that I did not address the concern you posted about. I felt > > the need to educate you about the testing protocol for FELV because I would > > hate to see you cage a cat for 3 months that may not even be infected with > > the virus. You cannot consider a cat persistently viremic until they test > > positive on the IFA test. > > > > If it turns out the cat you rescued is really FELV positive, she is not > > going to transmit the virus to your other cats through some chance > > encounter. It would take prolonged contact with your other cats to infect > > them with the virus. Even if they had prolonged contact, it does not mean > > your other cats would get the virus. Some cats are able to build an immune > > response and fight off the virus. I rescued a cat over the summer that > > tested positive on the combo snap test and the ELISA test but tested > > negative on the IFA. Thirty days later, he tested negative on the snap > > test, the ELISA test and continued to test negative on the IFA test. As a > > precaution, we tested again 30 days later, and he continued to test > > negative on all three tests. His body built an immune defense and fought > > off the virus > > > > --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Jannes Taylor wrote: > > > > > > From: Jannes Taylor > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 1:50 PM > > > > > > Hello, > > I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they > > said > > she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has > > gained > > weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. > > The vet > > said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did > > not > > have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have > > three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will > > escape to > > the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a > > nice > > cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the > > basement > > about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x > > 6' > > tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but > > don't > > have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to > > find > > a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are > > trying to > > be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. > > I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, > > so any > > comments or ideas are much appreciated. > > Jannes > > > > > > > >___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >
[Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice
I want to thank everyone who responded about my post regarding Amber, my FeLV positive cat. I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the health of my other cats from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan to be cautious but do feel less stressed about it. I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is nothing like being able to get advice from folks who have experienced this situation. The vet leaned toward euthanization after her after her test came back positive. I just could not euthanize a seemingly otherwise healthy cat. I want to give her a chance! I hope and pray that her next test will come back negative. Whatever happens, I am glad I was there to save her from starving to death. She is getting high quality food now and lots of petting every chance I get! She has improved a lot in the last few weeks. It is sad how she sits at the top of the staircase and can't come upstairs. It is what it is, I guess. At least for now... I would love to hear from more folks regarding this subject. Thanks you all and God Bless!! Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice
Unfortunately, there are many vets with those views, even if the cat is the ONLY cat in a homewhy would anyone kill a perfectly healthy cat that happens to test positive for FeLV or FIV, and in NO way can even contribute to exposing another cat to it I have heard that from people again and again, and sadly, they listen to those vets and continue this myth about having to kill any cat that tests positive! I am so glad that there are people like you who don't believe everything a vet suggests as being gospel truth! This cat may be healthy forever, or it may not. There are no guarantees that our healthy cats will be healthy forever either, are there? Do the best you can under the circumstances! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice I want to thank everyone who responded about my post regarding Amber, my FeLV positive cat. I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the health of my other cats from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan to be cautious but do feel less stressed about it. I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is nothing like being able to get advice from folks who have experienced this situation. The vet leaned toward euthanization after her after her test came back positive. I just could not euthanize a seemingly otherwise healthy cat. I want to give her a chance! I hope and pray that her next test will come back negative. Whatever happens, I am glad I was there to save her from starving to death. She is getting high quality food now and lots of petting every chance I get! She has improved a lot in the last few weeks. It is sad how she sits at the top of the staircase and can't come upstairs. It is what it is, I guess. At least for now... I would love to hear from more folks regarding this subject. Thanks you all and God Bless!! Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice
Thank you, Natalie. I am so hoping her next test will be negative, but I will do the best I can regadless. Jannes From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, March 15, 2011 10:39:41 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice Unfortunately, there are many vets with those views, even if the cat is the ONLY cat in a homewhy would anyone kill a perfectly healthy cat that happens to test positive for FeLV or FIV, and in NO way can even contribute to exposing another cat to it I have heard that from people again and again, and sadly, they listen to those vets and continue this myth about having to kill any cat that tests positive! I am so glad that there are people like you who don't believe everything a vet suggests as being gospel truth! This cat may be healthy forever, or it may not. There are no guarantees that our healthy cats will be healthy forever either, are there? Do the best you can under the circumstances! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice I want to thank everyone who responded about my post regarding Amber, my FeLV positive cat. I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the health of my other cats from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan to be cautious but do feel less stressed about it. I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is nothing like being able to get advice from folks who have experienced this situation. The vet leaned toward euthanization after her after her test came back positive. I just could not euthanize a seemingly otherwise healthy cat. I want to give her a chance! I hope and pray that her next test will come back negative. Whatever happens, I am glad I was there to save her from starving to death. She is getting high quality food now and lots of petting every chance I get! She has improved a lot in the last few weeks. It is sad how she sits at the top of the staircase and can't come upstairs. It is what it is, I guess. At least for now... I would love to hear from more folks regarding this subject. Thanks you all and God Bless!! Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Thank You so much for your informative information. I really appreciate it! Jannes From: Jacquelyn Gonzales To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 4:08:44 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Hi Jannes: The FELV/FIV Combo SNAP tests can have a lot of cross-reactivity resulting in false positives. IF you tested via the in-house FELV/FIV Combo test (the test they run in the vet's office) you should retest via the ELISA test that is sent to the lab. Alternatively, you could test via the IFA test now and if the test is positive, the cat is considered persistently viremic and no further testing is required. The ELISA test shows the presence of an antigen created by the cat's immune response to FeLV infection in the red blood cells, while the IFA shows this same antigen in the white blood cells. The difference is that the antigen only goes into the white cells at a later stage of infection, which is why IFA+ cats are considered persistently viremic while an ELISA+ / IFA- cat may have a transient viremia that can be completely thrown off. There is no right or wrong answer when it comes to the testing. You can test via the IFA now and if it is positive, the cat is considered persistently viremic and no further testing is needed. If you test via the IFA test and it is negative, you have to test via the ELISA lab test. I have FELV+ cats of my own and have rescued others. If you have discordant test results, you cannot consider the cat FELV negative until you get results that match. There is no need to wait 3 months. If I were you, I would test via the ELISA test that is sent to the lab now. If it is positive, the next step is to test via the IFA test. --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Jannes Taylor wrote: From: Jannes Taylor Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 1:50 PM Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so any comments or ideas are much appreciated. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice
Most of you have heard Dixie Louise Doodle Katt, JP's story. She came to me as a feral/throw-away. I liked her and was gong to bring her to the farm. I took her to be spayed and she tested positive. My vets' put all the options on the table and I took death off to the relief of everyone. With their care and the care of a couple of holistic vets in Louisville, she lived a very healthy and happy life for almost 3 years.she had EVERYTHING And gave me everything. On Mar 15, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Natalie wrote: Unfortunately, there are many vets with those views, even if the cat is the ONLY cat in a homewhy would anyone kill a perfectly healthy cat that happens to test positive for FeLV or FIV, and in NO way can even contribute to exposing another cat to it I have heard that from people again and again, and sadly, they listen to those vets and continue this myth about having to kill any cat that tests positive! I am so glad that there are people like you who don't believe everything a vet suggests as being gospel truth! This cat may be healthy forever, or it may not. There are no guarantees that our healthy cats will be healthy forever either, are there? Do the best you can under the circumstances! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice I want to thank everyone who responded about my post regarding Amber, my FeLV positive cat. I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the health of my other cats from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan to be cautious but do feel less stressed about it. I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is nothing like being able to get advice from folks who have experienced this situation. The vet leaned toward euthanization after her after her test came back positive. I just could not euthanize a seemingly otherwise healthy cat. I want to give her a chance! I hope and pray that her next test will come back negative. Whatever happens, I am glad I was there to save her from starving to death. She is getting high quality food now and lots of petting every chance I get! She has improved a lot in the last few weeks. It is sad how she sits at the top of the staircase and can't come upstairs. It is what it is, I guess. At least for now... I would love to hear from more folks regarding this subject. Thanks you all and God Bless!! Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Thank you so much for sharing. This makes me feel less paranoid, at the least. I will definately have her retested. If she still tests negative, I will still give her the best life I can. :) Jannes From: Jacquelyn Gonzales To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 4:26:53 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I realize now that I did not address the concern you posted about. I felt the need to educate you about the testing protocol for FELV because I would hate to see you cage a cat for 3 months that may not even be infected with the virus. You cannot consider a cat persistently viremic until they test positive on the IFA test. If it turns out the cat you rescued is really FELV positive, she is not going to transmit the virus to your other cats through some chance encounter. It would take prolonged contact with your other cats to infect them with the virus. Even if they had prolonged contact, it does not mean your other cats would get the virus. Some cats are able to build an immune response and fight off the virus. I rescued a cat over the summer that tested positive on the combo snap test and the ELISA test but tested negative on the IFA. Thirty days later, he tested negative on the snap test, the ELISA test and continued to test negative on the IFA test. As a precaution, we tested again 30 days later, and he continued to test negative on all three tests. His body built an immune defense and fought off the virus --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Jannes Taylor wrote: From: Jannes Taylor Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 1:50 PM Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so any comments or ideas are much appreciated. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
I feel like I must be very cautious until I know for sure where we stand after the restesting. I do appreciate your story and do not feel as nervous about the situation as I did. This has certainly been a learning experience for me. I have loved cats all my life and try to spoil them as much as I can. It makes me feel good to see Amber get all the food she wants and I hear her purr. It is sad she has lost her freedom but I hope to be able to give her a good life. BTW, Do you think I should have her spayed or wait until after the restesting? My husband questions whether we should ever her spayed since she can't get out. Jannes From: Gloria Lane To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 7:04:01 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I'd say don't worry about it. I just don't think it's that contagious. I mix mine. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Maureen Olvey wrote: > > I foster cats and kittens for my local humane society. Last week a 2 year > old >kitty died. She tested positive for FeLV. I got her as a kitten and at that >time she tested negative. I have got quite a few cats that have been living >with me as long as she has been with me. They all share the same food bowls >and >litterboxes. None are vaccinated against FeLV since every cat or kitten that >comes into my house has been tested first. It terrified me when I found out >she >had been positive, especially since I have a 5 month old kitten that has been >living with me since he was 8 weeks old. Today I had him and an older kitten >that is about 8 months old tested at the vet's office. The older kitten has >been with me since he was about 12 weeks old. They both came out negative. A >couple weeks ago I had an adult that had been with me almost as long as the >FeLV >cat was with me and she tested negative as well. So, I tell you this Jannes >to >confirm what the others have said because it shows that not all cats contract >FeLV and there is no need to panic right now. The vet felt that since those >kittens and the cat that I had tested had been exposed to FeLV for so long >that >if they were going to get it they would have already gotten it. Especially >the >cat that had lived at my house with the FeLV + cat for a year and a half. > > A friend of mine has also had 3 or 4 FeLV positive cats living alongside her >healthy cats for years. She gets her healthy cats vaccinated against FeLV and >they have never contracted the disease from the FeLV cats. I would vaccinate >your healthy cats now and let the FeLV + cat run around the basement and if >she >tests negative in a few months or test negative with the ELISA and IFA test I >would let her in the rest of the house with the other cats. But, that's what >I >would do, not necessarily what you should do. Actually, I would trust the >vaccine and after your healthy cats get their vaccination (it takes a series >of >two shots the first time) then I'd let all three hang together. But it's your >cats and you have to make that decision. > > > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are >profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon >unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me >sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > > > >> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:26:53 -0700 >> From: jgonza...@pacbell.net >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. >> >> I realize now that I did not address the concern you posted about. I felt >> the >>need to educate you about the testing protocol for FELV because I would hate >>to >>see you cage a cat for 3 months that may not even be infected with the >>virus. >>You cannot consider a cat persistently viremic until they test positive on >>the >>IFA test. >> >> >> If it turns out the cat you rescued is really FELV positive, she is not >> going >>to transmit the virus to your other cats through some chance encounter. It >>would take prolonged contact with your other cats to infect them with the >>virus. Even if they had prolonged contact, it does not mean your other cats >>would get the virus. Some cats are able to build an immune response and >>fight >>off the virus. I rescued a cat over the summer that tested positive on the >>combo snap test and the ELISA test but tested negative on the IFA. Thirty >>days >>later, he tested negative on the snap test, the ELISA test and continued to >>test >>negative on the IFA test. As a precaution, we tested again 30 days later, >>and >>he continued to test negative on all three tests. His body built an immune >>defense and fought off the virus >> >> --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Jannes Taylor wrote: >> >> >> From: Jannes Taylor >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. >> To: felvtalk@f
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
I've always spay/neutered mine- No problems. Except one Felv girl I have, who has seizures, and I have not had her spayed. Year or two old. She just seems so fragile I couldn't put her thru it. Doesn't seem to have heat cycles, if so very mild and unnoticeable. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Mar 15, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Jannes Taylor wrote: > I feel like I must be very cautious until I know for sure where we stand > after > the restesting. I do appreciate your story and do not feel as nervous about > the > situation as I did. This has certainly been a learning experience for me. I > have > loved cats all my life and try to spoil them as much as I can. It makes me > feel > good to see Amber get all the food she wants and I hear her purr. It is sad > she > has lost her freedom but I hope to be able to give her a good life. > BTW, Do you think I should have her spayed or wait until after the > restesting? > My husband questions whether we should ever her spayed since she can't get > out. > Jannes > > > > > > From: Gloria Lane > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 7:04:01 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > I'd say don't worry about it. I just don't think it's that contagious. I mix > mine. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 14, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Maureen Olvey wrote: > >> >> I foster cats and kittens for my local humane society. Last week a 2 year >> old >> kitty died. She tested positive for FeLV. I got her as a kitten and at >> that >> time she tested negative. I have got quite a few cats that have been living >> with me as long as she has been with me. They all share the same food bowls >> and >> litterboxes. None are vaccinated against FeLV since every cat or kitten >> that >> comes into my house has been tested first. It terrified me when I found out >> she >> had been positive, especially since I have a 5 month old kitten that has >> been >> living with me since he was 8 weeks old. Today I had him and an older >> kitten >> that is about 8 months old tested at the vet's office. The older kitten has >> been with me since he was about 12 weeks old. They both came out negative. >> A >> couple weeks ago I had an adult that had been with me almost as long as the >> FeLV >> cat was with me and she tested negative as well. So, I tell you this Jannes >> to >> confirm what the others have said because it shows that not all cats >> contract >> FeLV and there is no need to panic right now. The vet felt that since those >> kittens and the cat that I had tested had been exposed to FeLV for so long >> that >> if they were going to get it they would have already gotten it. Especially >> the >> cat that had lived at my house with the FeLV + cat for a year and a half. >> >> A friend of mine has also had 3 or 4 FeLV positive cats living alongside her >> healthy cats for years. She gets her healthy cats vaccinated against FeLV >> and >> they have never contracted the disease from the FeLV cats. I would >> vaccinate >> your healthy cats now and let the FeLV + cat run around the basement and if >> she >> tests negative in a few months or test negative with the ELISA and IFA test >> I >> would let her in the rest of the house with the other cats. But, that's >> what I >> would do, not necessarily what you should do. Actually, I would trust the >> vaccine and after your healthy cats get their vaccination (it takes a series >> of >> two shots the first time) then I'd let all three hang together. But it's >> your >> cats and you have to make that decision. >> >> >> >> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are >> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon >> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me >> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain >> >> >> >>> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:26:53 -0700 >>> From: jgonza...@pacbell.net >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. >>> >>> I realize now that I did not address the concern you posted about. I felt >>> the >>> need to educate you about the testing protocol for FELV because I would >>> hate to >>> see you cage a cat for 3 months that may not even be infected with the >>> virus. >>> You cannot consider a cat persistently viremic until they test positive on >>> the >>> IFA test. >>> >>> >>> If it turns out the cat you rescued is really FELV positive, she is not >>> going >>> to transmit the virus to your other cats through some chance encounter. It >>> would take prolonged contact with your other cats to infect them with the >>> virus. Even if they had prolonged contact, it does not mean your other >>> cats >>> would get the virus. Some cats are able to build an immune response and >>> fight >>> off th
Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant?
Good for you. Mine r healthy too. If it an broke ,don't fix it. It the cat tests neg. why wait for it to be positive? regards, CAthy --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Natalie wrote: From: Natalie Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 10:02 PM Ideally, when a cat is tested for anything, FIV/FeLV, it should be isolated for three months and retested. However, rescue groups cannot do it because of space limitations, especially isolation areas. When a cat tests negative, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's true - the cat may just have been exposed to it, and it would show up 3 months later I've never had a FIV cat living with healthy ones, nor can I do it as a rescue organization. However, we had one cat that tested negative for FIV/FeLV, and many years later, started being illmy vet asked for some blood test at the lab, but they mistakenly tested for FIV - it turned out that she was positive. No one living with her ever became sick, to this day. She died about two years later at age 14/15. However, FIV is not as serious as FeLV, which seems increasingly more mysterious to me after having been reading all the posts about FeLV+ cats living with healthy ones. The two FeLV+ cats we have, are very healthy, exhibit absolutely no signs of any symptoms. I'm not sure what exactly it means when someone says that a FeLV cat with no symptoms could be a carrier; it can't be that the cat is perfectly healthy and can't mean that at some point, will not become symptomatic, does it? I do everything I can to keep them very healthy with supplements, good food, TLC, etc. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 8:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? I've heard from some of the vets that FeLV can hide in the bone marrow for a while before ever showing up on a combo test. How long do you think that can happen before the combo tests shows positive? Anyone have experience with this? If the FeLV + cat and the other cat have been living together for a year and the healthy cat's combo test was negative after a year together with lots of exposure, is there a chance it is still hiding in the healthy cat's bone marrow and not showing up yet? It seems to me that a year would be enough time for the virus to show up in a test. "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant?
The reason I'm curious about it is because of my foster cats. Some people, including some vets, are saying that since they've been exposed to it this long and they tested negative recently that they should be fine and to go ahead and adopt them out. My 8 month old kitten came here when he was 8 weeks old so he's been exposed to FeLV for 6 months. I'm not sure how many cats in my house may have it, but the one that died last week did test positive which is how I found out about it. So far, I have only tested 3 of my other cats so far and they were negative so I really don't know yet if any others in my house have it. So as far as the 8 month old kitten goes, I wonder if that's enough time for it to show up on a combo test. I don't want to adopt him to someone with a cat and then their cat catch it from him. If I were the person looking to adopt a cat and I knew for sure the kitty had been exposed to FeLV even if he tested negative yesterday I probably wouldn't adopt him. Anyone have any opinions? Should I put him up for adoption? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:06:29 -0700 > From: westnint...@yahoo.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? > > Good for you. Mine r healthy too. If it an broke ,don't fix it. It the cat > tests neg. why wait for it to be positive? regards, CAthy > > --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Natalie wrote: > > > From: Natalie > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 10:02 PM > > > Ideally, when a cat is tested for anything, FIV/FeLV, it should be isolated > for three months and retested. However, rescue groups cannot do it because > of space limitations, especially isolation areas. > When a cat tests negative, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's true - the > cat may just have been exposed to it, and it would show up 3 months > later > I've never had a FIV cat living with healthy ones, nor can I do it as a > rescue organization. However, we had one cat that tested negative for > FIV/FeLV, and many years later, started being illmy vet asked for some > blood test at the lab, but they mistakenly tested for FIV - it turned out > that she was positive. No one living with her ever became sick, to this > day. She died about two years later at age 14/15. However, FIV is not as > serious as FeLV, which seems increasingly more mysterious to me after having > been reading all the posts about FeLV+ cats living with healthy ones. The > two FeLV+ cats we have, are very healthy, exhibit absolutely no signs of any > symptoms. I'm not sure what exactly it means when someone says that a FeLV > cat with no symptoms could be a carrier; it can't be that the cat is > perfectly healthy and can't mean that at some point, will not become > symptomatic, does it? I do everything I can to keep them very healthy with > supplements, good food, TLC, etc. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 8:11 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? > > > I've heard from some of the vets that FeLV can hide in the bone marrow for a > while before ever showing up on a combo test. How long do you think that > can happen before the combo tests shows positive? Anyone have experience > with this? If the FeLV + cat and the other cat have been living together > for a year and the healthy cat's combo test was negative after a year > together with lots of exposure, is there a chance it is still hiding in the > healthy cat's bone marrow and not showing up yet? It seems to me that a > year would be enough time for the virus to show up in a test. > > > "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark > Twain > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://feline
Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice
Wow, Jannes. The vet advocating euthanization is a warning sign not to let him/her treat this particular cat. She is obviously not up to date on the latest research and you need all the knowledge you can get to maintain Amber's good health. You might consider calling around to different vets and see what their feeling is about FeLV care. If you know of some vets who treat shelter cats, they may be a good place to start because they will have encountered it before. Best of luck with Amber. I personally hope you choose to vaccinate the others and let her commingle, but that's me and not you. ;-) Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice I want to thank everyone who responded about my post regarding Amber, my FeLV positive cat. I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the health of my other cats from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan to be cautious but do feel less stressed about it. I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is nothing like being able to get advice from folks who have experienced this situation. The vet leaned toward euthanization after her after her test came back positive. I just could not euthanize a seemingly otherwise healthy cat. I want to give her a chance! I hope and pray that her next test will come back negative. Whatever happens, I am glad I was there to save her from starving to death. She is getting high quality food now and lots of petting every chance I get! She has improved a lot in the last few weeks. It is sad how she sits at the top of the staircase and can't come upstairs. It is what it is, I guess. At least for now... I would love to hear from more folks regarding this subject. Thanks you all and God Bless!! Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 2:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I feel like I must be very cautious until I know for sure where we stand after the restesting. I do appreciate your story and do not feel as nervous about the situation as I did. This has certainly been a learning experience for me. I have loved cats all my life and try to spoil them as much as I can. It makes me feel good to see Amber get all the food she wants and I hear her purr. It is sad she has lost her freedom but I hope to be able to give her a good life. BTW, Do you think I should have her spayed or wait until after the restesting? My husband questions whether we should ever her spayed since she can't get out. Jannes From: Gloria Lane To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 7:04:01 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I'd say don't worry about it. I just don't think it's that contagious. I mix mine. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Maureen Olvey wrote: > > I foster cats and kittens for my local humane society. Last week a 2 >year old kitty died. She tested positive for FeLV. I got her as a >kitten and at that time she tested negative. I have got quite a few >cats that have been living with me as long as she has been with me. >They all share the same food bowls and litterboxes. None are >vaccinated against FeLV since every cat or kitten that comes into my >house has been tested first. It terrified me when I found out she had >been positive, especially since I have a 5 month old kitten that has >been living with me since he was 8 weeks old. Today I had him and an >older kitten that is about 8 months old tested at the vet's office. >The older kitten has been with me since he was about 12 weeks old. >They both came out negative. A couple weeks ago I had an adult that >had been with me almost as long as the FeLV cat was with me and she >tested negative as well. So, I tell you this Jannes to confirm what >the others have said because it shows that not all cats contract FeLV >and there is no need to panic right now. The vet felt that since those >kittens and the cat that I had tested had been exposed to FeLV for so long that if they were going to get it they would have already gotten it. Especially the cat that had lived at my house with the FeLV + cat for a year and a half. > > A friend of mine has also had 3 or 4 FeLV positive cats living >alongside her healthy cats for years. She gets her healthy cats >vaccinated against FeLV and they have never contracted the disease from >the FeLV cats. I would vaccinate your healthy cats now and let the >FeLV + cat run around the basement and if she tests negative in a few >months or test negative with the ELISA and IFA test I would let her in >the rest of the house with the other cats. But, that's what I would >do, not necessarily what you should do. Actually, I would trust the >vaccine and after your healthy cats get their vaccination (it takes a >series of two shots the first time) then I'd let all three hang together. But it's your cats and you have to make that decision. > > > > I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that >are profitable to the human race or doesnt .the pain which it inflicts >upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it >is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking >further. Mark Twain > > > >> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:26:53 -0700 >> From: jgonza...@pacbell.net >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. >> >> I realize now that I did not address the concern you posted about. I >>felt the need to educate you about the testing protocol for FELV >>because I would hate to see you cage a cat for 3 months that may not even be infected with the virus. >>You cannot consider a cat persistently viremic until they test >>positive on the IFA test. >> >> >> If it turns out the cat you rescued is really FELV positive, she is not going >>to transmit the virus to your other cats through some chance encounter. It >>would take prolonged contact with your other cats to infect them with the >>virus. Even if they had prolonged contact, it does not mean your other cats >>would get the virus. Some cats are able to build an immune response and fight >>off the virus. I rescued a cat
[Felvtalk] anyone in PA area or anywhere take in a super lovey friendly FelV positive senior?
Hi - the shelter near me in philadelphia has a very lovey kissing hugging 10-15 year old senior kitty who just is a total lovebug. His owner died. Can anyone take him in? He is on the very very sweet side and my bathroom doesn't seem like it's good enough for this little lovebug. As far as I know he's not IFA confirmed but if I take him in the interim, I will make sure he's confirmed. Even a foster would be appreciated - he's in the urgent list and I'm surprised they even gave him this long a chance. Let me know. Dana * * www.twitter.com/smallspark * Share something interesting today.* ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant?
That does present a problem - that's precisely the reason why I cannot mix the cats. I cannot take the chance that a cat getting adopted from us might possibly infect an adopter's cat. If they were all here to stay, I would definitely do it. I also do not mix FIV with FeLV - don't want to expose each to yet another disease - not fair to them, as long I have separate areas for each group. Follow your instinctif you believe that the kitten would be happy being the only one in a household, try to find one without another cat. I would not take the chance with someone's cat, and it wouldn't be fair NOT to tell an adopter the situation, right? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 5:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? The reason I'm curious about it is because of my foster cats. Some people, including some vets, are saying that since they've been exposed to it this long and they tested negative recently that they should be fine and to go ahead and adopt them out. My 8 month old kitten came here when he was 8 weeks old so he's been exposed to FeLV for 6 months. I'm not sure how many cats in my house may have it, but the one that died last week did test positive which is how I found out about it. So far, I have only tested 3 of my other cats so far and they were negative so I really don't know yet if any others in my house have it. So as far as the 8 month old kitten goes, I wonder if that's enough time for it to show up on a combo test. I don't want to adopt him to someone with a cat and then their cat catch it from him. If I were the person looking to adopt a cat and I knew for sure the kitty had been exposed to FeLV even if he tested negative yesterday I probably wouldn't adopt him. Anyone have any opinions? Should I put him up for adoption? "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:06:29 -0700 > From: westnint...@yahoo.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? > > Good for you. Mine r healthy too. If it an broke ,don't fix it. It the cat tests neg. why wait for it to be positive? regards, CAthy > > --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Natalie wrote: > > > From: Natalie > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 10:02 PM > > > Ideally, when a cat is tested for anything, FIV/FeLV, it should be isolated > for three months and retested. However, rescue groups cannot do it because > of space limitations, especially isolation areas. > When a cat tests negative, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's true - the > cat may just have been exposed to it, and it would show up 3 months > later > I've never had a FIV cat living with healthy ones, nor can I do it as a > rescue organization. However, we had one cat that tested negative for > FIV/FeLV, and many years later, started being illmy vet asked for some > blood test at the lab, but they mistakenly tested for FIV - it turned out > that she was positive. No one living with her ever became sick, to this > day. She died about two years later at age 14/15. However, FIV is not as > serious as FeLV, which seems increasingly more mysterious to me after having > been reading all the posts about FeLV+ cats living with healthy ones. The > two FeLV+ cats we have, are very healthy, exhibit absolutely no signs of any > symptoms. I'm not sure what exactly it means when someone says that a FeLV > cat with no symptoms could be a carrier; it can't be that the cat is > perfectly healthy and can't mean that at some point, will not become > symptomatic, does it? I do everything I can to keep them very healthy with > supplements, good food, TLC, etc. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 8:11 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? > > > I've heard from some of the vets that FeLV can hide in the bone marrow for a > while before ever showing up on a combo test. How long do you think that > can happen before the combo tests shows positive? Anyone have experience > with this? If the FeLV + cat and the other cat have been living together > for a year and the healthy cat's combo test was negative after a year > together with lots of exposure, is there a chance it is still hiding in the > healthy cat's bone marrow and not showing up yet? It seems to me that a
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
My vet always treats a cat with health problems with vitamin injections for about a week or two - vitamin B12, C, etc. - it builds up their immune system a bit before surgery. We call it "The Cocktail". You can't imagine how many cats' lives have been saved with these cocktails, practically coming back from the dead! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:39 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 2:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I feel like I must be very cautious until I know for sure where we stand after the restesting. I do appreciate your story and do not feel as nervous about the situation as I did. This has certainly been a learning experience for me. I have loved cats all my life and try to spoil them as much as I can. It makes me feel good to see Amber get all the food she wants and I hear her purr. It is sad she has lost her freedom but I hope to be able to give her a good life. BTW, Do you think I should have her spayed or wait until after the restesting? My husband questions whether we should ever her spayed since she can't get out. Jannes From: Gloria Lane To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 7:04:01 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I'd say don't worry about it. I just don't think it's that contagious. I mix mine. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Maureen Olvey wrote: > > I foster cats and kittens for my local humane society. Last week a 2 >year old kitty died. She tested positive for FeLV. I got her as a >kitten and at that time she tested negative. I have got quite a few >cats that have been living with me as long as she has been with me. >They all share the same food bowls and litterboxes. None are >vaccinated against FeLV since every cat or kitten that comes into my >house has been tested first. It terrified me when I found out she had >been positive, especially since I have a 5 month old kitten that has >been living with me since he was 8 weeks old. Today I had him and an >older kitten that is about 8 months old tested at the vet's office. >The older kitten has been with me since he was about 12 weeks old. >They both came out negative. A couple weeks ago I had an adult that >had been with me almost as long as the FeLV cat was with me and she >tested negative as well. So, I tell you this Jannes to confirm what >the others have said because it shows that not all cats contract FeLV >and there is no need to panic right now. The vet felt that since those >kittens and the cat that I had tested had been exposed to FeLV for so long that if they were going to get it they would have already gotten it. Especially the cat that had lived at my house with the FeLV + cat for a year and a half. > > A friend of mine has also had 3 or 4 FeLV positive cats living >alongside her healthy cats for years. She gets her healthy cats >vaccinated against FeLV and they have never contracted the disease from >the FeLV cats. I would vaccinate your healthy cats now and let the >FeLV + cat run around the basement and if she tests negative in a few >months or test negative with the ELISA and IFA test I would let her in >the rest of the house with the other cats. But, that's what I would >do, not necessarily what you should do. Actually, I would trust the >vaccine and after your healthy cats get their vaccination (it takes a >series of two shots the first time) then I'd let all three hang together. But it's your cats and you have to make that decision. > > > > I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that >are profitable to the human race or doesnt .the pain which it inflicts >upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it >is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking >further. Mark Twain > > > >> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:26:53 -0700 >> From: jgonza...@pacbell.net >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. >> >> I realize now that I did not address the concern you posted about. I >>felt the need to educate you about the testing protocol for FELV >>because I would hate to see you cage a cat for 3 mont
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Sounds like you've got a great vet there. Congrats! Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. My vet always treats a cat with health problems with vitamin injections for about a week or two - vitamin B12, C, etc. - it builds up their immune system a bit before surgery. We call it "The Cocktail". You can't imagine how many cats' lives have been saved with these cocktails, practically coming back from the dead! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:39 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 2:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I feel like I must be very cautious until I know for sure where we stand after the restesting. I do appreciate your story and do not feel as nervous about the situation as I did. This has certainly been a learning experience for me. I have loved cats all my life and try to spoil them as much as I can. It makes me feel good to see Amber get all the food she wants and I hear her purr. It is sad she has lost her freedom but I hope to be able to give her a good life. BTW, Do you think I should have her spayed or wait until after the restesting? My husband questions whether we should ever her spayed since she can't get out. Jannes From: Gloria Lane To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 7:04:01 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I'd say don't worry about it. I just don't think it's that contagious. I mix mine. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Maureen Olvey wrote: > > I foster cats and kittens for my local humane society. Last week a 2 >year old kitty died. She tested positive for FeLV. I got her as a >kitten and at that time she tested negative. I have got quite a few >cats that have been living with me as long as she has been with me. >They all share the same food bowls and litterboxes. None are >vaccinated against FeLV since every cat or kitten that comes into my >house has been tested first. It terrified me when I found out she had >been positive, especially since I have a 5 month old kitten that has >been living with me since he was 8 weeks old. Today I had him and an >older kitten that is about 8 months old tested at the vet's office. >The older kitten has been with me since he was about 12 weeks old. They >both came out negative. A couple weeks ago I had an adult that had >been with me almost as long as the FeLV cat was with me and she tested >negative as well. So, I tell you this Jannes to confirm what the >others have said because it shows that not all cats contract FeLV and >there is no need to panic right now. The vet felt that since those >kittens and the cat that I had tested had been exposed to FeLV for so >long that if they were going to get it they would have already gotten it. Especially the cat that had lived at my house with the FeLV + cat for a year and a half. > > A friend of mine has also had 3 or 4 FeLV positive cats living >alongside her healthy cats for years. She gets her healthy cats >vaccinated against FeLV and they have never contracted the disease from >the FeLV cats. I would vaccinate your healthy cats now and let the >FeLV + cat run around the basement and if she tests negative in a few >months or test negative with the ELISA and IFA test I would let her in >the rest of the house with the other cats. But, that's what I would >do, not necessarily what you should do. Actually, I would trust the >vaccine and after your healthy cats get their vaccination (it takes a >series of two shots the first time) then I'd let all three hang together. But it's your cats and you have to make that decision. > > > > I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that >are profitable to the human race or doesnt .the pain which it inflicts >upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it >is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking >further. Mark Twain > > > >> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:26:53 -0700 >> Fr
Re: [Felvtalk] anyone in PA area or anywhere take in a super lovey friendly FelV positive senior?
The Best Little Cat House In Pa. Lynn Stitt --- On Tue, 3/15/11, dana giordano wrote: From: dana giordano Subject: [Felvtalk] anyone in PA area or anywhere take in a super lovey friendly FelV positive senior? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 7:40 PM Hi - the shelter near me in philadelphia has a very lovey kissing hugging 10-15 year old senior kitty who just is a total lovebug. His owner died. Can anyone take him in? He is on the very very sweet side and my bathroom doesn't seem like it's good enough for this little lovebug. As far as I know he's not IFA confirmed but if I take him in the interim, I will make sure he's confirmed. Even a foster would be appreciated - he's in the urgent list and I'm surprised they even gave him this long a chance. Let me know. Dana * * www.twitter.com/smallspark * Share something interesting today.* ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] anyone in PA area or anywhere take in a super lovey friendly FelV positive senior?
Get him to NY and I'll take him --- On Tue, 3/15/11, dana giordano wrote: From: dana giordano Subject: [Felvtalk] anyone in PA area or anywhere take in a super lovey friendly FelV positive senior? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 7:40 PM Hi - the shelter near me in philadelphia has a very lovey kissing hugging 10-15 year old senior kitty who just is a total lovebug. His owner died. Can anyone take him in? He is on the very very sweet side and my bathroom doesn't seem like it's good enough for this little lovebug. As far as I know he's not IFA confirmed but if I take him in the interim, I will make sure he's confirmed. Even a foster would be appreciated - he's in the urgent list and I'm surprised they even gave him this long a chance. Let me know. Dana * * www.twitter.com/smallspark * Share something interesting today.* ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant?
I think you're right. I couldn't adopt out to a person without telling them everything. It's not right to do that and I would feel so guilty. Then it's their decision as to whether they want him or not. The kitty did test negative yesterday so there's hope he won't or doesn't have it but time will tell. Yeah, I think I'll just try to find him a home as the only cat. If I can't find him a home, he can stay with me. I've already decided to keep most of my fosters since I found out so what's one more as they say! Thanks for your input. You kind of confirmed what I had been thinking. I just wanted to hear it from someone else. I wish I had known the kitty that had it was positive before she died. She didn't show any symtoms until the day before she died. Her breathing was kind of shallow and rapid so I took her to the vet and they found that she was bleeding in her chest and she died while we were talking about it. They did the necropsy and saw the huge tumor in her chest and the vet said it ruptured a vein or something around her heart. The vet was curious about it because the kitty was not yet two years old so she did a combo test and it came out with a strong positive for FeLV. If I had known I wouldn't have ever taken in any more fosters but I had no clue. She tested negative as a kitten and never looked sick so I had no reason to suspect it. It sucks. I love them all but she was special to me. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:21:50 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? > > That does present a problem - that's precisely the reason why I cannot mix > the cats. I cannot take the chance that a cat getting adopted from us > might possibly infect an adopter's cat. If they were all here to stay, I > would definitely do it. I also do not mix FIV with FeLV - don't want to > expose each to yet another disease - not fair to them, as long I have > separate areas for each group. > Follow your instinctif you believe that the kitten would be happy being > the only one in a household, try to find one without another cat. I would > not take the chance with someone's cat, and it wouldn't be fair NOT to tell > an adopter the situation, right? > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 5:50 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? > > > The reason I'm curious about it is because of my foster cats. Some people, > including some vets, are saying that since they've been exposed to it this > long and they tested negative recently that they should be fine and to go > ahead and adopt them out. My 8 month old kitten came here when he was 8 > weeks old so he's been exposed to FeLV for 6 months. I'm not sure how many > cats in my house may have it, but the one that died last week did test > positive which is how I found out about it. So far, I have only tested 3 of > my other cats so far and they were negative so I really don't know yet if > any others in my house have it. So as far as the 8 month old kitten goes, I > wonder if that's enough time for it to show up on a combo test. I don't > want to adopt him to someone with a cat and then their cat catch it from > him. If I were the person looking to adopt a cat and I knew for sure the > kitty had been exposed to FeLV even if he tested negative yesterday I > probably wouldn't adopt him. > > Anyone have any opinions? Should I put him up for adoption? > > > "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark > Twain > > > > > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:06:29 -0700 > > From: westnint...@yahoo.com > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? > > > > Good for you. Mine r healthy too. If it an broke ,don't fix it. It the cat > tests neg. why wait for it to be positive? regards, CAthy > > > > --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Natalie wrote: > > > > > > From: Natalie > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 10:02 PM > > > > > > Ideally, when a cat is tested for anything, FIV/FeLV, it should be > isolated > > for three months and retested. However, rescue groups cannot do it > because > >
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
My veterinarian is co-founder of AVAR (Association of Veterinarians for Animal Rights), now under the umbrella of HSUS. He refuses to declaw cats, crop ears and dock tails on dogs, uses alternative medicine and acupuncture. Yes, I am lucky to have him just a few minutes from where we live - he always make time for me, even when office hours are filled. But then, again, I've been quite a good customer with our own dogs and cats since 1984 and with the cat rescue group since 1992. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 8:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Sounds like you've got a great vet there. Congrats! Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. My vet always treats a cat with health problems with vitamin injections for about a week or two - vitamin B12, C, etc. - it builds up their immune system a bit before surgery. We call it "The Cocktail". You can't imagine how many cats' lives have been saved with these cocktails, practically coming back from the dead! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:39 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 2:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I feel like I must be very cautious until I know for sure where we stand after the restesting. I do appreciate your story and do not feel as nervous about the situation as I did. This has certainly been a learning experience for me. I have loved cats all my life and try to spoil them as much as I can. It makes me feel good to see Amber get all the food she wants and I hear her purr. It is sad she has lost her freedom but I hope to be able to give her a good life. BTW, Do you think I should have her spayed or wait until after the restesting? My husband questions whether we should ever her spayed since she can't get out. Jannes From: Gloria Lane To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 7:04:01 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I'd say don't worry about it. I just don't think it's that contagious. I mix mine. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Maureen Olvey wrote: > > I foster cats and kittens for my local humane society. Last week a 2 >year old kitty died. She tested positive for FeLV. I got her as a >kitten and at that time she tested negative. I have got quite a few >cats that have been living with me as long as she has been with me. >They all share the same food bowls and litterboxes. None are >vaccinated against FeLV since every cat or kitten that comes into my >house has been tested first. It terrified me when I found out she had >been positive, especially since I have a 5 month old kitten that has >been living with me since he was 8 weeks old. Today I had him and an >older kitten that is about 8 months old tested at the vet's office. >The older kitten has been with me since he was about 12 weeks old. They >both came out negative. A couple weeks ago I had an adult that had >been with me almost as long as the FeLV cat was with me and she tested >negative as well. So, I tell you this Jannes to confirm what the >others have said because it shows that not all cats contract FeLV and >there is no need to panic right now. The vet felt that since those >kittens and the cat that I had tested had been exposed to FeLV for so >long that if they were going to get it they would have already gotten it. Especially the cat that had lived at my house with the FeLV + cat for a year and a half. > > A friend of mine has also had 3 or 4 FeLV positive cats living >alongside her healthy cats for years. She gets her healthy cats >vaccinated against FeLV and they have never contracted the disease from >the FeLV cats. I would vaccinate your healthy cats now and let the >FeLV + cat run around the basement and if she tests negative in a few >months or test negative with the ELISA a
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
laser helps reduce the stress On Mar 15, 2011, at 6:39 PM, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 2:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I feel like I must be very cautious until I know for sure where we stand after the restesting. I do appreciate your story and do not feel as nervous about the situation as I did. This has certainly been a learning experience for me. I have loved cats all my life and try to spoil them as much as I can. It makes me feel good to see Amber get all the food she wants and I hear her purr. It is sad she has lost her freedom but I hope to be able to give her a good life. BTW, Do you think I should have her spayed or wait until after the restesting? My husband questions whether we should ever her spayed since she can't get out. Jannes From: Gloria Lane To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 7:04:01 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I'd say don't worry about it. I just don't think it's that contagious. I mix mine. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Maureen Olvey wrote: I foster cats and kittens for my local humane society. Last week a 2 year old kitty died. She tested positive for FeLV. I got her as a kitten and at that time she tested negative. I have got quite a few cats that have been living with me as long as she has been with me. They all share the same food bowls and litterboxes. None are vaccinated against FeLV since every cat or kitten that comes into my house has been tested first. It terrified me when I found out she had been positive, especially since I have a 5 month old kitten that has been living with me since he was 8 weeks old. Today I had him and an older kitten that is about 8 months old tested at the vet's office. The older kitten has been with me since he was about 12 weeks old. They both came out negative. A couple weeks ago I had an adult that had been with me almost as long as the FeLV cat was with me and she tested negative as well. So, I tell you this Jannes to confirm what the others have said because it shows that not all cats contract FeLV and there is no need to panic right now. The vet felt that since those kittens and the cat that I had tested had been exposed to FeLV for so long that if they were going to get it they would have already gotten it. Especially the cat that had lived at my house with the FeLV + cat for a year and a half. A friend of mine has also had 3 or 4 FeLV positive cats living alongside her healthy cats for years. She gets her healthy cats vaccinated against FeLV and they have never contracted the disease from the FeLV cats. I would vaccinate your healthy cats now and let the FeLV + cat run around the basement and if she tests negative in a few months or test negative with the ELISA and IFA test I would let her in the rest of the house with the other cats. But, that's what I would do, not necessarily what you should do. Actually, I would trust the vaccine and after your healthy cats get their vaccination (it takes a series of two shots the first time) then I'd let all three hang together. But it's your cats and you have to make that decision. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:26:53 -0700 From: jgonza...@pacbell.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I realize now that I did not address the concern you posted about. I felt the need to educate you about the testing protocol for FELV because I would hate to see you cage a cat for 3 months that may not even be infected with the virus. You cannot consider a cat persistently viremic until they test positive on the IFA test. If it turns out the cat you rescued is really FELV positive, she is not going to transmit the virus to your other cats through some chance encounter. It would take prolonged contact with your other cats to infect them with the virus. Even if they had prolonged contact, it does not mean your other cats would get the virus. Some cats are able to build an immune response and fight off th
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
I love him already. Please tell me you live near Atlanta. If so, he's my new vet!!! “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:05:37 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > My veterinarian is co-founder of AVAR (Association of Veterinarians for > Animal Rights), now under the umbrella of HSUS. He refuses to declaw cats, > crop ears and dock tails on dogs, uses alternative medicine and acupuncture. > Yes, I am lucky to have him just a few minutes from where we live - he > always make time for me, even when office hours are filled. But then, > again, I've been quite a good customer with our own dogs and cats since 1984 > and with the cat rescue group since 1992. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 8:43 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > Sounds like you've got a great vet there. Congrats! > > Diane R. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:27 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > My vet always treats a cat with health problems with vitamin injections for > about a week or two - vitamin B12, C, etc. - it builds up their immune > system a bit before surgery. We call it "The Cocktail". You can't imagine > how many cats' lives have been saved with these cocktails, practically > coming back from the dead! > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
No, sorry - we are in Greenwich, CT! Blue Cross Animal Hospital! But how about moving here? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:16 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I love him already. Please tell me you live near Atlanta. If so, he's my new vet!!! "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:05:37 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > My veterinarian is co-founder of AVAR (Association of Veterinarians for > Animal Rights), now under the umbrella of HSUS. He refuses to declaw cats, > crop ears and dock tails on dogs, uses alternative medicine and acupuncture. > Yes, I am lucky to have him just a few minutes from where we live - he > always make time for me, even when office hours are filled. But then, > again, I've been quite a good customer with our own dogs and cats since 1984 > and with the cat rescue group since 1992. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 8:43 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > Sounds like you've got a great vet there. Congrats! > > Diane R. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:27 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > My vet always treats a cat with health problems with vitamin injections for > about a week or two - vitamin B12, C, etc. - it builds up their immune > system a bit before surgery. We call it "The Cocktail". You can't imagine > how many cats' lives have been saved with these cocktails, practically > coming back from the dead! > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Ha, ha - for a vet like him it might be worth the move! I don't think my husband would like it though! “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:36:33 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > No, sorry - we are in Greenwich, CT! Blue Cross Animal Hospital! But how > about moving here? > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:16 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > > I love him already. Please tell me you live near Atlanta. If so, he's my > new vet!!! > > "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark > Twain > > > > > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:05:37 -0400 > > From: at...@optonline.net > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > > > My veterinarian is co-founder of AVAR (Association of Veterinarians for > > Animal Rights), now under the umbrella of HSUS. He refuses to declaw cats, > > crop ears and dock tails on dogs, uses alternative medicine and > acupuncture. > > Yes, I am lucky to have him just a few minutes from where we live - he > > always make time for me, even when office hours are filled. But then, > > again, I've been quite a good customer with our own dogs and cats since > 1984 > > and with the cat rescue group since 1992. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt > > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 8:43 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > > > Sounds like you've got a great vet there. Congrats! > > > > Diane R. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie > > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:27 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > > > My vet always treats a cat with health problems with vitamin injections > for > > about a week or two - vitamin B12, C, etc. - it builds up their immune > > system a bit before surgery. We call it "The Cocktail". You can't imagine > > how many cats' lives have been saved with these cocktails, practically > > coming back from the dead! > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant?
The moral of the story is that all cats coming into a home or foster home where there are other cats, must be combo tested! It's not a huge expense in the big scheme of things, but necessary! That's how I always feel - if a good home cannot be found, the cats stays hereand sometimes, a really good adopter who doesn't necessarily want a kitten comes along and wants an older cat! It's so much harder parting with a cat that has been here for a while than parting with kittens. I have also learned a hard lesson to never separate two cats that are really good friends! Good luck with finding a good home! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 8:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? I think you're right. I couldn't adopt out to a person without telling them everything. It's not right to do that and I would feel so guilty. Then it's their decision as to whether they want him or not. The kitty did test negative yesterday so there's hope he won't or doesn't have it but time will tell. Yeah, I think I'll just try to find him a home as the only cat. If I can't find him a home, he can stay with me. I've already decided to keep most of my fosters since I found out so what's one more as they say! Thanks for your input. You kind of confirmed what I had been thinking. I just wanted to hear it from someone else. I wish I had known the kitty that had it was positive before she died. She didn't show any symtoms until the day before she died. Her breathing was kind of shallow and rapid so I took her to the vet and they found that she was bleeding in her chest and she died while we were talking about it. They did the necropsy and saw the huge tumor in her chest and the vet said it ruptured a vein or something around her heart. The vet was curious about it because the kitty was not yet two years old so she did a combo test and it came out with a strong positive for FeLV. If I had known I wouldn't have ever taken in any more fosters but I had no clue. She tested negative as a kitten and never looked sick so I had no reason to suspect it. It sucks. I love them all but she was special to me. "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:21:50 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? > > That does present a problem - that's precisely the reason why I cannot mix > the cats. I cannot take the chance that a cat getting adopted from us > might possibly infect an adopter's cat. If they were all here to stay, I > would definitely do it. I also do not mix FIV with FeLV - don't want to > expose each to yet another disease - not fair to them, as long I have > separate areas for each group. > Follow your instinctif you believe that the kitten would be happy being > the only one in a household, try to find one without another cat. I would > not take the chance with someone's cat, and it wouldn't be fair NOT to tell > an adopter the situation, right? > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 5:50 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? > > > The reason I'm curious about it is because of my foster cats. Some people, > including some vets, are saying that since they've been exposed to it this > long and they tested negative recently that they should be fine and to go > ahead and adopt them out. My 8 month old kitten came here when he was 8 > weeks old so he's been exposed to FeLV for 6 months. I'm not sure how many > cats in my house may have it, but the one that died last week did test > positive which is how I found out about it. So far, I have only tested 3 of > my other cats so far and they were negative so I really don't know yet if > any others in my house have it. So as far as the 8 month old kitten goes, I > wonder if that's enough time for it to show up on a combo test. I don't > want to adopt him to someone with a cat and then their cat catch it from > him. If I were the person looking to adopt a cat and I knew for sure the > kitty had been exposed to FeLV even if he tested negative yesterday I > probably wouldn't adopt him. > > Anyone have any opinions? Should I put him up for adoption? > > > "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon > u
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
I love that mark Twain quote! What would your husband have against Greenwich? It's beautiful here, great ferries to island beaches, beachesclose to NY City -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Ha, ha - for a vet like him it might be worth the move! I don't think my husband would like it though! "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:36:33 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > No, sorry - we are in Greenwich, CT! Blue Cross Animal Hospital! But how > about moving here? > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:16 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > > I love him already. Please tell me you live near Atlanta. If so, he's my > new vet!!! > > "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark > Twain > > > > > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:05:37 -0400 > > From: at...@optonline.net > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > > > My veterinarian is co-founder of AVAR (Association of Veterinarians for > > Animal Rights), now under the umbrella of HSUS. He refuses to declaw cats, > > crop ears and dock tails on dogs, uses alternative medicine and > acupuncture. > > Yes, I am lucky to have him just a few minutes from where we live - he > > always make time for me, even when office hours are filled. But then, > > again, I've been quite a good customer with our own dogs and cats since > 1984 > > and with the cat rescue group since 1992. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt > > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 8:43 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > > > Sounds like you've got a great vet there. Congrats! > > > > Diane R. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie > > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:27 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > > > My vet always treats a cat with health problems with vitamin injections > for > > about a week or two - vitamin B12, C, etc. - it builds up their immune > > system a bit before surgery. We call it "The Cocktail". You can't imagine > > how many cats' lives have been saved with these cocktails, practically > > coming back from the dead! > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
I bet it is beautiful. I lived in NH for 5 years and loved it. New England is gorgeous. He's not much of a traveler though. He likes to visit other places but I can't imagine him ever moving outside of GA. He's close to his family and friends so that's probably a lot of the reason. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 22:12:34 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > I love that mark Twain quote! What would your husband have against > Greenwich? It's beautiful here, great ferries to island beaches, > beachesclose to NY City > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:43 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > > Ha, ha - for a vet like him it might be worth the move! I don't think my > husband would like it though! > > "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark > Twain > > > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant?
My reply to this got bounced because it was too big a file but I want to say it again just in case it doesn't get posted to the list. I think it's important for foster parents to know that one combo test cannot be trusted. I have had every cat or kitten that came into my house combo tested before I ever exposed them to the rest of the cats. From the first cat I ever took in to the very last. They all showed negative for FeLV before I took them. Even the kitty that died was negative on her first combo test that was done almost two years ago. It's kind of scary to know that. You could take in a FeLV positive kitty that tested negative on her first test and not even know it. We have that statement in our adoption contract that not all diseases will show at the time of the first test so we cannot 100% guarantee the health of each cat. But it's so easy to assume that if they tested negative once then it's true. I learned my lesson. > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:43:23 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? > > The moral of the story is that all cats coming into a home or foster home > where there are other cats, must be combo tested! It's not a huge expense in > the big scheme of things, but necessary! > That's how I always feel - if a good home cannot be found, the cats stays > hereand sometimes, a really good adopter who doesn't necessarily want a > kitten comes along and wants an older cat! It's so much harder parting with > a cat that has been here for a while than parting with kittens. I have also > learned a hard lesson to never separate two cats that are really good > friends! > Good luck with finding a good home! > Natalie > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 8:59 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? > > > I think you're right. I couldn't adopt out to a person without telling them > everything. It's not right to do that and I would feel so guilty. Then > it's their decision as to whether they want him or not. The kitty did test > negative yesterday so there's hope he won't or doesn't have it but time will > tell. Yeah, I think I'll just try to find him a home as the only cat. If I > can't find him a home, he can stay with me. I've already decided to keep > most of my fosters since I found out so what's one more as they say! > > Thanks for your input. You kind of confirmed what I had been thinking. I > just wanted to hear it from someone else. > > I wish I had known the kitty that had it was positive before she died. She > didn't show any symtoms until the day before she died. Her breathing was > kind of shallow and rapid so I took her to the vet and they found that she > was bleeding in her chest and she died while we were talking about it. They > did the necropsy and saw the huge tumor in her chest and the vet said it > ruptured a vein or something around her heart. The vet was curious about it > because the kitty was not yet two years old so she did a combo test and it > came out with a strong positive for FeLV. If I had known I wouldn't have > ever taken in any more fosters but I had no clue. She tested negative as a > kitten and never looked sick so I had no reason to suspect it. It sucks. I > love them all but she was special to me. > > > "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark > Twain > > > > > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:21:50 -0400 > > From: at...@optonline.net > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? > > > > That does present a problem - that's precisely the reason why I cannot mix > > the cats. I cannot take the chance that a cat getting adopted from us > > might possibly infect an adopter's cat. If they were all here to stay, I > > would definitely do it. I also do not mix FIV with FeLV - don't want to > > expose each to yet another disease - not fair to them, as long I have > > separate areas for each group. > > Follow your instinctif you believe that the kitten would be happy > being > > the only one in a household, try to find one without another cat. I would > > not take the chance with someone's cat, and it wouldn't be fair NOT to > tell > > an adopter the situation, right? > > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant?
I got my Tucson as a kitten--had her tested at around 2 months & she was neg. 4 1/2 years later she was feeling poorly & a very sharp vet redid test after her blood work showed lower than normal white blood count. And sure enough she tested positive (on Snap & IFA). She had never been outside since the first date we rescued out of a wall in an apt, had never been sick & is still around, little 17 lb porker that she is. Did a lot research since then & talked to several vets basically, test is good but not foolproof & virus may hide for a long time... One vet told me the closest you could come to really verifying test would be to do a retest at 1 year..not a viable option. But for me, the most significant comment I ever received was the person who pointed out that FELV is an ANCIENT virus & probably around since dinosaurs. If it were anywhere near as lethal & contagious as we've been led to believe, we would have no domestic cats left. Bottom line, between the testing issues & my own experiences with my 2 FELV+ cats, my guess is that there are a whole lot of cats out there living quite normal lives who are pos but nobody knows it. Remember, these cats don't die from the virus but rather from certain cancers or URIs or UTIs or any sort of infection. How can we ever know whether the cats we all had as kids (when nobody ever went to the vet-LOL) who died from some illness weren't positive? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? My reply to this got bounced because it was too big a file but I want to say it again just in case it doesn't get posted to the list. I think it's important for foster parents to know that one combo test cannot be trusted. I have had every cat or kitten that came into my house combo tested before I ever exposed them to the rest of the cats. From the first cat I ever took in to the very last. They all showed negative for FeLV before I took them. Even the kitty that died was negative on her first combo test that was done almost two years ago. It's kind of scary to know that. You could take in a FeLV positive kitty that tested negative on her first test and not even know it. We have that statement in our adoption contract that not all diseases will show at the time of the first test so we cannot 100% guarantee the health of each cat. But it's so easy to assume that if they tested negative once then it's true. I learned my lesson. > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:43:23 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? > > The moral of the story is that all cats coming into a home or foster > home where there are other cats, must be combo tested! It's not a huge > expense in the big scheme of things, but necessary! > That's how I always feel - if a good home cannot be found, the cats > stays hereand sometimes, a really good adopter who doesn't > necessarily want a kitten comes along and wants an older cat! It's so > much harder parting with a cat that has been here for a while than > parting with kittens. I have also learned a hard lesson to never > separate two cats that are really good friends! > Good luck with finding a good home! > Natalie > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen > Olvey > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 8:59 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? > > > I think you're right. I couldn't adopt out to a person without telling > them everything. It's not right to do that and I would feel so guilty. > Then it's their decision as to whether they want him or not. The kitty > did test negative yesterday so there's hope he won't or doesn't have > it but time will tell. Yeah, I think I'll just try to find him a home > as the only cat. If I can't find him a home, he can stay with me. I've > already decided to keep most of my fosters since I found out so what's one more as they say! > > Thanks for your input. You kind of confirmed what I had been thinking. > I just wanted to hear it from someone else. > > I wish I had known the kitty that had it was positive before she died. > She didn't show any symtoms until the day before she died. Her > breathing was kind of shallow and rapid so I took her to the vet and > they found that she was bleeding in her chest and she died while we > were talking about it. They did the necropsy and saw the huge tumor in > her chest and the vet said it ruptured a vein or something around her > heart. The vet was curious about it because the kitty was not yet two > years old so she did a combo test and it came out with a strong > positive for FeLV.
[Felvtalk] OT: Transport
Hi there, Does anyone know anything about transport? I am trying to get these 2 FELV+ kitties to various far flung places (if anyone adopts them - no one has yet). I do not know the first thing about it. Often our adopters have limited funds and cannot afford to pay to transport, and time is of the essence when dealing with this shelter as they kill FELV+ cats first. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper "And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue." - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Transport
I found this via facebook that my contacts have friended. Maybe they can help you. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Take-Me-Home-Animal-Rescue-Transports/191304693761 * * www.twitter.com/smallspark * Share something interesting today.* On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:59 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote: > Hi there, > > Does anyone know anything about transport? I am trying to get these 2 > FELV+ > kitties to various far flung places (if anyone adopts them - no one has > yet). I do not know the first thing about it. Often our adopters have > limited funds and cannot afford to pay to transport, and time is of the > essence when dealing with this shelter as they kill FELV+ cats first. > > -- > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > http://www.rescuties.org > > Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 > > http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* > > Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! > http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties > > Please help Trooper! > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper > > > "And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they > can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they > should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue." > > - Nathan Winograd > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
