At 10:19 PM 1/7/2006, David W. Fenton wrote:
>On 7 Jan 2006 at 19:40, Aaron Sherber wrote:
>> Hmm, not sure what you mean here. The WinFin toolbar *is*
>> customizable -- we just don't have an equivalent to the Cmd-Click
>> master access you have on Mac. And the keystroke shortcut (I assume
>> you
On 7 Jan 2006 at 19:40, Aaron Sherber wrote:
> At 02:19 PM 1/7/2006, Christopher Smith wrote:
> >Hey, I'll trade you my Mac's customisable tool bar for your Windows'
> >keystroke-for-every-single-mother-lovin'-menu-item! 8-)
>
> Hmm, not sure what you mean here. The WinFin toolbar *is*
> custo
It sounds like the problem was identified, not solved, Gerry...and I
can't see how Retrograde's inability to deal with simple triplets
allows it to be described as being able to "handle complex rhythms".
It would seem that it's the tuplet nature of the figure that's the
problem rather than its
> I couldn't work out (with a 5 minute time limit) how to get a figure
between two beats.
Just select the text and drag it where you need it to go. Staff text
in Sibelius is similar to a measure-attached expression in Finale.
There may be faster methods as well.
Best regards,
Michael Good
Record
At 02:19 PM 1/7/2006, Christopher Smith wrote:
>Hey, I'll trade you my Mac's customisable tool bar for your Windows'
>keystroke-for-every-single-mother-lovin'-menu-item! 8-)
Hmm, not sure what you mean here. The WinFin toolbar *is*
customizable -- we just don't have an equivalent to the Cmd-Clic
Phil Daley / 2006/01/07 / 06:58 PM wrote:
>I have received over 50 responses from MS about various issues.
Maybe because you are on Windows? Back then, they had no phone number
listed to call so I had to call the headquarters to find someone will
talk to me. I was so upset just installing Offic
Phil Daley wrote:
I have received over 50 responses from MS about various issues.
I too have had excellent support from MS. As much as I may adore the
concept of open-source software, I cannot deny that when I've needed to
deal with MS support, it's been prompt, knowledgable, and genuin
At 02:53 PM 1/7/2006, A-NO-NE Music wrote:
>Michael Cook / 2006/01/07 / 04:39 AM wrote:
>
>>I use Microsoft Word 2001 for Mac. In this version, at least, I can put
>>*any* command in *any* menu.
>
>I stand corrected. I see the feature as the first time. On the other
>hand, I have never ever rec
dhbailey wrote:
Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
Which makes me wonder, if it were possible to design a range
checker which could render an opinion on the efficacy of ranges for
a variety of player abilities, e.g., H.S., College, Professional. I
happen to have a range chart (hard copy) which
On 07.01.2006 Eric Fiedler wrote:
Ansgar Krause's Finale Generalbass ( http://www.ansgarkrause.de/
finalfonts.htm)
On 07.01.2006, at 21:27, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
Although I agree that Bärenreiter's figures are much too small most of
the time, I disagree that this font is particularly reada
On Jan 7, 2006, at 5:15 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 7 Jan 2006 at 13:06, Christopher Smith wrote:
This keyboard shortcut does NOT appear next to the menu item, like
most of the shortcuts do (at least, not in the Mac version.) I don't
know why, but it should. Then not only you, but everyone
On Jan 7, 2006, at 5:10 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
While it would certainly be nice to have user-definable keyboard
shortcuts beyond the existing metatools, such a feature could never
solve problems of bad UI design. In fact, it would only solve one UI
problem, and that's giving quick access to
On 7 Jan 2006 at 13:06, Christopher Smith wrote:
> This keyboard shortcut does NOT appear next to the menu item, like
> most of the shortcuts do (at least, not in the Mac version.) I don't
> know why, but it should. Then not only you, but everyone else who had
> missed it would have seen it after
On 7 Jan 2006 at 8:28, dhbailey wrote:
> don't like ctrl-s for save? Change it to whatever you want. Hate
> using the numeric-keypad for selecting note values? Change them. I
> recently discovered that (my new year's resolution was to get to know
> Sibelius better) and I simply assigned the sa
On 7 Jan 2006 at 8:22, dhbailey wrote:
> Brad Beyenhof wrote:
>
> > On 1/6/06, David W. Fenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>On 6 Jan 2006 at 14:04, Brad Beyenhof wrote:
> >>
> >>>On 1/6/06, David W. Fenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> And it seems to me that there oughtn't
On 7 Jan 2006 at 8:16, dhbailey wrote:
> How about the equally valid musical concept of "thickening of the
> texture?" Doubling a line is often used to thicken the texture of a
> passage, so why don't we include that as yet a third way to arrive at
> the same program feature?
You are conflating
Ansgar Krause's Finale Generalbass ( http://www.ansgarkrause.de/
finalfonts.htm)
On 07.01.2006, at 21:27, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
>Which font are you using again?<
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It doesn't work on my German Keyboard either, so I usually switch to
the English Keyboard Layout when using Finale (except when inputting
text!). If you have activated several keyboard layouts (say, French
and English) in System Preferences>International>Input Menu, then you
can switch back
Finmac 05
I'm orchestrating an older piece of mine written for a chamber ensemble.
The original phrasing and dynamics apply enough to the new score so that
it's worth importing that material and spreading it around as desired. So
far, so good.
The original file was created in an old enough versi
Dennis,
you could try the key next to the ; (which on my keyboard is to the
right of the L).
dc wrote:
Thanks, I wanted to try this. The FM says to use the apostrophe key to
switch to Voice 2. But that doesn't work on my French keyboard. Anyone
know how I can switch to voice 2? I tried wi
Finale 2006c Maintenance Update
Finale 2006c is a free, downloadable update available to registered Finale
2006 users. It includes:
* Improved conversion of lyric baselines in older cross-platform files.
Finale 2006c also includes all the improvements found in Finale 2006a and
2006b, includ
On 07.01.2006 dc wrote:
Thanks, I wanted to try this. The FM says to use the apostrophe key
to switch to Voice 2. But that doesn't work on my French keyboard.
Anyone know how I can switch to voice 2? I tried with the shift key,
and it doesn't work either. Of course, I can use TGTools to remap m
On 07.01.2006 Eric Fiedler wrote:
And one more thing. I know some people (usually librarians) like to
complain that the numerals in this font don't look like the figures
from some of the established publishing houses (Baerenreiter comes
to mind).
Which font are you using again?
Johannes
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Michael Cook / 2006/01/07 / 04:39 AM wrote:
>I use Microsoft Word 2001 for Mac. In this version, at least, I can put
>*any* command in *any* menu.
I stand corrected. I see the feature as the first time. On the other
hand, I have never ever received any support from Micro$haft. Once I
wanted t
Christopher Smith / 2006/01/07 / 12:48 PM wrote:
>The heavy classical symphony players with the local orchestras here
>(including the Montreal Symphony) all claim that the low B joint ruins
>a flute's tone and response in high-end flutes. When they have to play
>a low B in a concert, they pick
Christopher Smith / 2006/01/07 / 10:00 AM wrote:
>But if I wanted to click on an icon, why wouldn't I just click on the
>icon in the Tool palette? Instead of cmd-click, then point and click, I
>would just point and click.
Ah, because I hide tool pallet :-)
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Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO
On Jan 7, 2006, at 1:47 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
At 12:42 PM 1/7/2006, Andrew Stiller wrote:
>I am sure I am not the only person on this list who has customized my
>master tool palette to include only a (large) subset of Finale's
tools.
>I rely on the cmd-click feature to access those tools
I find it faster to use voices, as you only need to activate this
feature when you need it, specifically, when you want to indicate
changing harmonies under a long note. When I'm entering a figured
bass with Ansgar's font, one key combination switches from lyrics to
speedy entry, one click
At 12:42 PM 1/7/2006, Andrew Stiller wrote:
>> But if I wanted to click on an icon, why wouldn't I just click on the
>> icon in the Tool palette? Instead of cmd-click, then point and click,
>> I would just point and click.
>>
>> Christopher
>>
>
>I am sure I am not the only person on this list who
At 4:46 PM -0800 1/6/06, Brad Beyenhof wrote:
I'm not saying that any of those options is a good one or a bad one
(personally, I'd go for the complete user-oriented overhaul); I'm just
thinking about the ramifications of the various choices.
If anyone remembers the late, and VERY unlamented, P
This keyboard shortcut does NOT appear next to the menu item, like most
of the shortcuts do (at least, not in the Mac version.) I don't know
why, but it should. Then not only you, but everyone else who had missed
it would have seen it after accessing the menu for the 8,439th time...
Christophe
On Jan 7, 2006, at 12:42 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
But if I wanted to click on an icon, why wouldn't I just click on the
icon in the Tool palette? Instead of cmd-click, then point and click,
I would just point and click.
Christopher
I am sure I am not the only person on this list who has
Yeah, I attended a masterclass with Peter Lloyd, who was principle Flute
with the London Symphony
http://www.larrykrantz.com/plloyd.htm He pretty much said the same thing
about low B foot flutes.
Christopher Smith wrote:
The heavy classical symphony players with the local orchestras here
(inc
On Jan 7, 2006, at 12:45 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
opt-shift clicking USED to be the same as drag-and-drop; but now
drag-and-drop does NOT give you the dialogue box that opt-sh clicking
gives you. So if you know for sure that you are going to want the
same items copied as the last time, use
No way! Really? Wow, learn something new every day. Maybe if I had read
the manual.naw..
Brad Beyenhof wrote:
On 1/7/06, Eric Dannewitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The things I use a lot are Music Spacing, and respell notes, and Fit
Music. Fit music has a key command associated wit
On 7 Jan 2006, at 18:45, Andrew Stiller wrote:
opt-shift clicking USED to be the same as drag-and-drop; but now
drag-and-drop does NOT give you the dialogue box that opt-sh clicking
gives you. So if you know for sure that you are going to want the
same items copied as the last time, use drag
On Jan 7, 2006, at 10:56 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me to find that, now that low B natural has
become standard for professionals (it wasn't, back then), that the low
B flat has become rarer, or vanished altogether from new models.
The heavy classical symphony players
On 1/7/06, Eric Dannewitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The things I use a lot are Music Spacing, and respell notes, and Fit
> Music. Fit music has a key command associated with it, but the others
> you have to go into the menu and find.
That's not true for Music Spacing-- You can select a passage
opt-shift clicking USED to be the same as drag-and-drop; but now
drag-and-drop does NOT give you the dialogue box that opt-sh clicking
gives you. So if you know for sure that you are going to want the same
items copied as the last time, use drag-and-drop to skip the dialogue
box.
Christophe
But if I wanted to click on an icon, why wouldn't I just click on the
icon in the Tool palette? Instead of cmd-click, then point and click,
I would just point and click.
Christopher
I am sure I am not the only person on this list who has customized my
master tool palette to include only a (
Yes, that is annoying. But you don't think that a power user wouldn't
benefit from some sort of ability to create custom menus or power menus?
I mean, one might need to RTM or RTFM to do it, but it could be a really
productive thing. I'd love to have Note Spacing right there, with a key
stroke
Woohoo, I'm there!
dhbailey wrote:
We could start a "Finale Users With Stockholm Syndrome" group! ;-)
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This is true.
There are a number of things in the Finale Menu I never use, and there
are things that I use all the time I wish were right there. I think if
they designed some sort of user definable menu where you can choose
which items you want in it, the order, and perhaps command key/hot key
At 6:13 PM -0500 1/6/06, Stephen Peters wrote:
John Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
With respect, that is SO simplistic! It's an orchestrator's job not
only to know the extreme limits of range, but to know the limits for
different levels of players AND TO KNOW THE SPECIFIC SOUND OF EACH
On 07.01.2006 dc wrote:
May I ask what you are being thanked so exclamatively for? I can't
find your original message, and it wasn't quoted. If it's a useful
tip for combining movements, I'd like to know.
Useful only if you didn't know anyway: You have to select _all staves_
to insert a com
On 07.01.2006 Michael Cook wrote:
I just had a quick look at the Sibelius demo: it would seem quite
easy. You choose create > text > other staff text > figured bass.
Then you type in the figures, using Return to put one figure under
another or Space to move to the next note. When I tried typing
On Jan 7, 2006, at 7:15 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:
Also,
I use this copying method extensively. In FinMac2006c, the tweaks
and changes they made to the copying behaviours seem to have nailed
it.
1. Select the passage you want to copy from.
2. Opt-shift click on the first measure you w
I just tried this with the Sibelius demo: I entered a whole note in 4/4
time and started adding figured bass. The figures are automatically
placed on the four beats of the whole note, unless I use the Space bar
to jump a beat. I couldn't work out (with a 5 minute time limit) how to
get a figure
On Jan 6, 2006, at 5:20 PM, John Howell wrote:
At 4:22 PM -0500 1/6/06, dhbailey wrote:
Andrew Stiller wrote:
Not to mention the fact that some flutes actually *can* play a low
Bb.
I wasn't aware of that -- I've only encountered flutes which play to
low B. Cool!
I'm not sure you cou
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>
> Brad,
>
> Thank you, thank you!
No problem; that's why this list is here. In fact, it's also the
reason the IRC channel exists... you might have gotten an answer there
even quicker
than the half-hour it took here by email.
http:/
Brad,
Thank you, thank you!
You would not believe the hours I have wasted through not knowing
that!
Thank you again,
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I just had a quick look at the Sibelius demo: it would seem quite easy.
You choose create > text > other staff text > figured bass. Then you
type in the figures, using Return to put one figure under another or
Space to move to the next note. When I tried typing letters, I got
things like a figu
Also,
I use this copying method extensively. In FinMac2006c, the tweaks and
changes they made to the copying behaviours seem to have nailed it.
1. Select the passage you want to copy from.
2. Opt-shift click on the first measure you want to copy TO (I don't
know the Windows key. Maybe alt-sh
On 1/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In a message dated 07/01/2006 05:43:57 GMT Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>> 1. Use the Measure Tool to add one bar to the first movement.
>> 2. Use the Mass Mover to highlight and copy the second movement.
>> 3. Highlight the
On Jan 7, 2006, at 2:30 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:
Christopher Smith / 2006/01/06 / 06:54 PM wrote:
Right now I am trying to come up with some mnemonic to associate with
the F though ' (apostrophe) for choosing tools. None of those keys has
a strong mental attachment in my mind to the tools I n
In a message dated 07/01/2006 05:43:57 GMT Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
1. Use
the Measure Tool to add one bar to the first movement.2. Use the
Mass Mover to highlight and copy the second movement.3. Highlight
the last bar of the first movement and use Insert from the
E
The demo says:
Use Sibelius to prepare editions of early music scores. Add figured bass
(you can even create a realization automatically with Plug-ins >
Composing Tools > Realize Figured Bass) and early music barlines.
That doesn't tell us much...
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
On 07.01.2006 dc wr
Chuck Israels wrote:
On Jan 6, 2006, at 5:08 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
On Jan 6, 2006, at 6:59 PM, Owain Sutton wrote:
Christopher Smith wrote:
Really, though, there IS a limit to how intuitive a complex program
like Finale could be.
Why?
No, I don't think it's an antagonistic
On 07.01.2006 dc wrote:
But is there or not a specific Figured Bass tool in Sibelius? How
does one enter figures, quickly or not?
Well, that is the question I asked, but I have not received a satisfying
answer yet. Can someone enlighten us?
Johannes
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Owain Sutton wrote:
Christopher Smith wrote:
Really, though, there IS a limit to how intuitive a complex program
like Finale could be.
Why?
No, I don't think it's an antagonistic comment. I think it's a valid
question. Music notation, while complex, isn't *that* complex. The
arran
Brad Beyenhof wrote:
On 1/6/06, David W. Fenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 6 Jan 2006 at 14:04, Brad Beyenhof wrote:
On 1/6/06, David W. Fenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
And it seems to me that there oughtn't be any reason not to have
such a menu choice in both locations.
But if you
Christopher Smith wrote:
On Jan 6, 2006, at 5:43 PM, Ken Moore wrote:
Shan't then. It took me a long time to find octave doubling, and I
agree with David, it's not intuitive. Dennis B-K's suggestion makes a
lot of sense to me. It's what Finale would have been like if it had
been design
Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
Which makes me wonder, if it were possible to design a range checker
which could render an opinion on the efficacy of ranges for a
variety of player abilities, e.g., H.S., College, Professional. I
happen to have a range chart (hard copy) which is broken down in
Ken Moore wrote:
Eric Dannewitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Fuck you on the Stockholm syndrome. I think you seriously need to
> change careers if you don't think doubling has something to do with
> Transpose
Shan't then. It took me a long time to find octave doubling, and I
agree with Da
On 07.01.2006 Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
I have several movements as separate Finale files (it's not a very
long composition), but now want to combine them in such a way it's
single document. Am I able to do that? What would be the technique
for doing this?
Copying. It's become easier with the
On 07.01.2006 Eric Fiedler wrote:
Hmm. It's not really _that_ difficult. You can attach any number of
Voice-2 notes (I usually use rests) to the one long note, hide them,
and then attach the figures to these hidden notes with the lyrics
tool as usual. Once you get the hang of it, a few key-c
On 07.01.2006 dc wrote:
Regardless of what Sibelius can or can't do, a decent figured bass
utility in Finale is long overdue.
Oh, I agree completely. In fact I am pretty sure the chord tool could be
utilized very well for this if a special figured bass mode was added.
Which doesn't actually
Hmm. It's not really _that_ difficult. You can attach any number of
Voice-2 notes (I usually use rests) to the one long note, hide them,
and then attach the figures to these hidden notes with the lyrics
tool as usual. Once you get the hang of it, a few key-combinations do
the trick and it's
I use Microsoft Word 2001 for Mac. In this version, at least, I can put
*any* command in *any* menu. I can even create a new menu and call it
what I like. Of course this lets me do really stupid things: just for
fun I tried adding "Quit", "Undo" and "Bold" to the View menu: it
works! If I wante
On 1/6/06, Kim Patrick Clow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I spend a lot of time tweaking slurs in string runs. Is there a
> way just to copy and paste the slur onto the next series of notes,
> to keep everything consistent looking, versus re-inventing the
> wheel everytime I need a slur?
Sounds lik
On 07.01.2006 Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
I spend a lot of time tweaking slurs in string runs. Is there way
just to copy and paste the slur onto the next
series of notes, to keep everything consistent looking, versus
re-inventing the wheel everytime I need a slur?
I am getting the feeling that
On 07.01.2006 Will Roberts wrote:
I'm no expert, but the Other Program has a dedicated font for figured
bass built in, and has a nice set of keyboard shortcuts included to
do all the various niceties of figures, including parentheses and
brackets, accidentals before and afterwards, slashes thro
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