if anyone is using TGTools on 2012, have you had any issues with
using shift/accidentals or align dynamics? i know some parts of the
PI are not working properly (i had extremely bad things happen when
running the update groups PI), but for these simple and
straight-forward ones, i am hoping
Dear Finale List,
This has always been a point of a big question mark with me, but I wanted
to get some ideas of pricing structures, even gross, ballpark ones from what
seems to be in the market today. I recently had a deal go very badly
where I created over 100 pages of documents and now
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20120702005682/en/Avid-Divests-Consumer-Businesses-Streamlines-Operations
I don't think it's clear yet what this selloff will mean for Siblelius --
presumably it's not part of the consumer audio and video product lines being
sold off?
Cheers,
- DJA
-
Hi Michael,
I'm answering partly off-list (I'll send you a fuller message off-list).
I am very sorry that this is distressing, but you're very much in the right
here.
These days the recommended rate for 'simple' work is $15 per page, separately
for score and parts. 'Simple' is 6-8 lines per
On Wed, July 4, 2012 7:59 am, Darcy James Argue wrote:
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20120702005682/en/Avid-Divests-Consumer-Businesses-Streamlines-Operations
I don't think it's clear yet what this selloff will mean for Siblelius --
presumably it's not part of the consumer audio and
lots of inconsistent information but something to keep an eye / ear on...
Jul 3 2012
Sibelius Will Stay with Avid, But Sources Report Principle Sibelius
Office to Close
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2012/07/sibelius-will-stay-with-avid-notation-remains-strategic
the finale percussion font is clearly based on --
some characters seem to be identical to -- ron
caltibiano's ghent font. i have seen no mention
of this having been purchased anywhere, or, if it
was indeed purchased by makemusic, no credit
given to the developer.
of course when a
On 2012-07-04 14:21, SN jef chippewa wrote:
lots of inconsistent information but something to keep an eye / ear on...
The main UK office (the original Sibelius office) is going to be closed
by AVID, that was confirmed yesterday by Daniel Spreadbury. Unclear
what's going to happen with all the
Michael,
So sorry to hear about your woes. Most of us have been there before.
At this point, after the price has been set and the work mostly done,
there isn't much to do except try to make the client see that the
price IS actually fair. He must have had an idea of how much it would
be in
Hi Jari,
Yes, I saw that the UK office is closing, which I'm guessing means that
virtually none of the current staff will be retained. I feel especially bad for
Daniel Spreadbury, who was exceptionally diligent, accessible, hard-working,
and a great ambassador for the product. Needless to say,
That's great advice, Christopher. It is certainly a situation I've been in. And
thanks for that link to the 'pay by the hour' guy. That is indeed priceless. :)
- Nigel Hanley
On 04/07/2012, at 10:52 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
Michael,
So sorry to hear about your woes. Most of us have
One quote from an anonymous Sibelius employee:
This is heartbreaking, it took us 15 years to build this business and it took
Avid 15 months to wreck it.”
http://www.pro-tools-expert.com/home-page/2012/7/3/avid-to-close-uk-sibelius-office.html
Remember when Avid acquired Sibelius and the
On 2012-07-04 14:26, SN jef chippewa wrote:
the finale percussion font is clearly based on --
some characters seem to be identical to -- ron
caltibiano's ghent font. i have seen no mention
of this having been purchased anywhere, or, if it
was indeed purchased by makemusic, no credit
given
That came from my brother, who is a computer contractor. He gave me
much excellent advice about contracts, including:
Set your original price according to the specifications to be quite
reasonable. This will get you the gig. However, for any changes to
the specification, charge hourly up
MM can license it without the things mentioned
above. Do you see any mention of my name
regarding the Space Systems plug-in in Fin2012?
sure, but i don't have to agree with this way of
doing things. and i do see a TGTools menu in the
default PI bundle... MM could acknowledge it
somewhere,
i am seriously tempted to add exactly this phrase to my standard contract...
For any corrections above and beyond that outlined in the present
contract, as well as for spectacularly late delivery of final
materials, the Client agrees to be charged up the wazoo, at an hourly
rate of...
On 7/4/2012 10:55 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
One quote from an anonymous Sibelius employee:
This is heartbreaking, it took us 15 years to build this business and it
took Avid 15 months to wreck it.”
http://www.pro-tools-expert.com/home-page/2012/7/3/avid-to-close-uk-sibelius-office.html
Really? They'd go from their paid former jobs to go work on a FREE piece of
software…..
That is fantasy. Avid is keeping Sibelius though…..so I doubt they would let
key programmers go for it.
On Wednesday, July 4, 2012 at 10:10 AM, David H. Bailey wrote:
On 7/4/2012 10:55 AM, Darcy
I'm noticing that several of the tools are now inoperable.
MakeMusic MUST acquire and maintain TGTOOLS. I'm sure Garritan and MusicXML
were not cheap. TGTOOLS would be much less.
Henry Howey
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Totally agree. TGTools is perhaps one of the only reasons I use Finale over
Sibelius. They are absolutely essential.
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On Wednesday, July 4, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Henry Howey wrote:
I'm
On Jul 4, 2012, at 11:35 AM, Henry Howey wrote:
I'm noticing that several of the tools are now inoperable.
MakeMusic MUST acquire and maintain TGTOOLS.
Is there a way to make a me too list and send it to MM to emphasize this
point? It may something about which all serious users of
Align dynamics works (whew!), but shift accidentals spins for a while
and then dies (this is on Win7 x64). To my eye, the default spacing for
accidentals in a chord is much too wide, and it's very painful to adjust
these without an automated tool.
Also, smart explosion usually crashes Finale
Indeed. It would have made MORE sense to acquire TGTools than the also-ran
Garritan.
--
On Wednesday, July 4, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Chuck Israels wrote:
On Jul 4, 2012, at 11:35 AM, Henry Howey wrote:
I'm noticing that several of the tools are now inoperable.
MakeMusic MUST
For the benefit of the MM employees on this list, I have to say that I
completely agree. TGTools is an absolutely essential part of my
workflow, in ways large and small.
Aaron.
On 7/4/2012 2:35 PM, Henry Howey wrote:
I'm noticing that several of the tools are now inoperable.
MakeMusic MUST
With every musical-theatre project I compose, I choose a distinct display font
for song titles. I installed the font for my upcoming project (blossom.ttf),
set up the project's template to use it in Finale 2010, and life was good.
Then MakeMusic offered the great deal on 2012, so I bought and
I could not work without TGTools. And, the uncertainty that I read here
about its functioning in later Finale versions is a big factor in why I have
not upgraded for a while.
Richard Yates
-Original Message-
From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf
Of
I tossed this out a couple weeks back and only heard from Chuck. Has anyone
had ANY contact at all with Tobias regarding the status of TGTools? I
wholeheartedly agree with everyone here who finds them indispensable to our
work flow, and I would be more than happy to pay an upgrade fee to keep
I can't help thinking that if MM ever had a handle on how we worked with
Finale, they might have integrated the kinds of plug-ins and innovations we
have come to depend on Tobias for. They are indispensable, indeed. I would not
assume that MM could pick up where he left off or maintain TGTools
On 2012-07-04 20:35, Henry Howey wrote:
I'm noticing that several of the tools are now inoperable.
MakeMusic MUST acquire and maintain TGTOOLS. I'm sure Garritan
and MusicXML were not cheap. TGTOOLS would be much less.
Gary and Michael became a part of the MM staff as part of the merger
with
i COMPLETELY disagree with the idea that it could benefit the user
community if MM acquired TGTools, expecting it would simply become
yet another sister in the family of dis-functionality that is never
quite up to par. linked parts (partly broken in 6 versions now)?
score manager? dozens of
Oh, and boy hasn't that resulted in a TON of great products and updates from
MakeMusic….I mean, MusicXML is taking the world by storm…..
--
On Wednesday, July 4, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Jari Williamsson wrote:
On 2012-07-04 20:35, Henry Howey wrote:
I'm noticing that several of the tools are
Oh, but that was what the yearly $129 for the latest Finale 20XX was for right?
For them to fix bugs and re-introduce old features as new. How many times have
they done slurs now in Finale……3 times or something? Every time it's called
something new and listed as a new feature. Or the one year
henry, which ones specifically are you noticing as problematic?
i would not trust (and some have described probs) with parts-related
tools, the reset staff groups has caused me very much anguish and i'm
no longer certain about the layout tool (although it could be part of
the probs i had with
hey lee, i'm not getting this crash at all, are you using TGT 2.6?
not sure it would make a diff, but if not, try updating. i got over
my fears and installed it and today and it is running more or less as
expected, and i think it is even faster on 2012 than it was on 2012,
don't know if
man, for me the upgrade with finale water bottle was the awesomest.
linked parts? meh. staff styles? meh. slurs that are note-attached
instead of page-attached? mmight pay for that one. text and
graphics tool improvements? meh. unicode support? double meh. i
would give another
What about the T-Shirts
--
Eric Dannewitz
Musician/Polymath/Evil Genius
http://www.ericdannewitz.com/
iMessage ericdannew...@me.com
On Wednesday, July 4, 2012 at 3:24 PM, SN jef chippewa wrote:
man, for me the upgrade with finale water bottle was the awesomest.
linked parts? meh.
Hey, what about that super-ultra-cool cobalt-blue Pilsner glass? Now THAT was
cool!! I still have mine, but only because I ordered the wife and son to keep
their mitts off it. After all: considering the frustration arising FROM Finale
at times, the LEAST they could do was to provide a
ja man, i still have my black F2004 T. keeping
it safe for another 30 years when i will bring it
out and much younger women will run to my side in
th(r)ongs because i will be so übercööl and
retro. by then, the bong PI lee spoke of will
*finally* be working properly and all the years
of
Whaaa? Staff Styles are AWESOME! They seem to have fixed in 2012b the
score styles not showing up properly in parts. Note-attached slurs,
also awesome (though not completely problem-free, but hey, whaddya
want?) Text, well, I am still waiting for partial point sizes and
centre
I'm using the latest TGT, which on Win is 2.61, and the shift accidentals
plugin doesn't work at all for me. My comment on default spacing of
accidentals being too wide was meant to refer to the Finale default for
notes a fifth or sixth apart, which is what I need the TGT plugin for. It
helps
Here's a question I've been meaning to ask for years and never have. I'm
working with MacFin2011.
On piano parts, some grand staves have barlines reaching through the
staves (treble and bass) the way I want them to, but other systems, later on in
the part have barlines only on EACH
Jari W. offered this the other day. Not sure if this is at all the same, or
if his solution applies to anything other than music fonts. Maybe someone
else can chime in.
On 2012-06-27 19:43, Chuck Israels wrote:
I am out of town for a week but would be interested to hear if
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