Re: [Finale] compatibility with OS Catalina

2019-10-25 Thread Robert Patterson
ald. These are probably not issues for me > either. > > Chuck > > > > > On Oct 25, 2019, at 4:10 PM, GERALD BERG wrote: > > > > Ahh Thank's for that Robert! Faults seem to be non issues for me. I've > been on it and so far no terrors. > > best GJB > > >

Re: [Finale] compatibility with OS Catalina

2019-10-25 Thread Robert Patterson
FWIW: Makemusic has put up more detailed information about Catalina compatibility. https://makemusic.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360036288573-Finale-Notation-Products-and-macOS-10-15-Catalina?utm_source=Iterable_medium=email_campaign=catalina_finale_v26_postrelease On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 2:33

Re: [Finale] compatibility with OS Catalina

2019-10-08 Thread Robert Patterson
Makemusic issued a recommendation *not* to upgrade to Catalina until they have finished evaluating it. On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 12:48 PM Chuck Israels wrote: > Hi all, > > Has anyone upgraded to OS Catalina? Is Finale compatible? > > Thanks, > > Chuck > > > Chuck Israels > cisra...@comcast.net >

Re: [Finale] Find where expression or articulations are assigned

2019-10-04 Thread Robert Patterson
In a recent version of Patterson Plugins I introduced a function to move lyric text blocks from one number to another. The next version will allow combining text blocks and moving between Verse, Chorus, and Section types. The function optional copies the system baselines for the score as well, and

[Finale] Find where expression or articulations are assigned

2019-10-04 Thread Robert Patterson
I often encounter duplicate or extraneous definitions of expressions or articulations. Does anyone know a way to find where they are used (if Finale refuses to delete them because they are used)? Either a plugin or a native Finale function? ___ Finale

Re: [Finale] Gap between barline and time signature

2019-10-04 Thread Robert Patterson
Since no one replied, I'll share what I discovered. On the barline in question there was an invisible key change from C Major to "Keyless". When I changed them both to be the same, the gap disappeared. On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 8:43 AM Robert Patterson wrote: > I've got a situatio

[Finale] Gap between barline and time signature

2019-10-01 Thread Robert Patterson
I've got a situation where a gap is appearing between the barline and a time signature change. All of the other time changes are appearing correctly. Does anyone know what setting might be causing the gap in this single situation? ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] Font issues in Mac OS X 10.15

2019-09-27 Thread Robert Patterson
If the Bill Duncan font is one of the old Adobe Postscript fonts, I would not count on it being fixed. In fact, 64-bit Finale currently has issues with those. You can convert Adobe Postscript to a newer format using Tinker Tool. (Ironically, a 32-bit app but runnable in a virtual if necessary.) I

Re: [Finale] Laissez Vibrer

2019-09-11 Thread Robert Patterson
I use a shape expression that I create in 800% to get the exact length and shape. On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 10:41 AM Giovanni Andreani wrote: > What is the best way for obtaining a few laissez vibrer symbols for > cymbals on a percussion staff not using Engraver font? > Thank you. > > > >

Re: [Finale] Human Playback Sorcery

2019-09-10 Thread Robert Patterson
: > On 2019-09-10 22:39, Robert Patterson wrote: > > I still haven't figured out why some of my parts are fading out and > > others > > aren't. They all have the same setting in the mixer, and I don't think > > any > > of them modify the volume controller.

Re: [Finale] Human Playback Sorcery

2019-09-10 Thread Robert Patterson
Sasha Weinstangel > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 10, 2019, at 7:56 PM, Robert Patterson < > rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > > > > Hello List, > > > > I am hoping someone has some wisdom for me. I have a bunch of separate > > files that I am

[Finale] Human Playback Sorcery

2019-09-10 Thread Robert Patterson
Hello List, I am hoping someone has some wisdom for me. I have a bunch of separate files that I am trying to combine into a single document. Each of the separate files plays back as I expect it to, but when I copy/insert them into the new doc, things go off the rails. It ignores the tempo

Re: [Finale] different time signatures on different staves

2019-09-06 Thread Robert Patterson
To get the hairpins to behave correctly, I recommend using time signatures that are only graphically different and using invisible tuplets to line up the notes. (You can do one tuplet per bar and copy it easily with a plugin like my Mass Copy plugin.) That is, set up an independent time signature

Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-08-27 Thread Robert Patterson
FWIW (joking aside) my copy of Merriam Webster correctly identifies "missus" as dialect in one of the definitions, and I would rather avoid that implication. On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:12 AM Jon Delfin wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 12:08 PM timothy price > wrote: > > > Missus isn’t even a

Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-08-27 Thread Robert Patterson
g to a > libretto, sometimes you must follow exactly)...I've started setting this > typed out as one word, under 2 notes, and letting the singer do the > placing. It seems to be clearer for them. > > > > -----Original Message- > From: Robert Patterson > To: finale &

Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-08-27 Thread Robert Patterson
. > > > On Aug 27, 2019, at 9:28 AM, Robert Patterson < > rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > > > > Has anyone ever had to divide "Mrs." into two syllables for vocal > underlay? > > Any suggestions? > >

[Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-08-27 Thread Robert Patterson
Has anyone ever had to divide "Mrs." into two syllables for vocal underlay? Any suggestions? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] erratic playback volume

2019-08-15 Thread Robert Patterson
I'm pretty sure this is Human Playback thinking it's being artistic. At least in my experience it is. If I care enough, I usually end up reminding it of the volume with an invisible dynamic mark. On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 12:31 PM Don Hart wrote: > Does anyone else experience very reduced

Re: [Finale] Long first ending

2019-08-15 Thread Robert Patterson
I think your best bet is a line (from the Smart Shapes palette). If you need a line of different width to match the width of the repeat ending brackets, you can create a Custom Line. The disadvantage of a smart shape is, of course, that smart shapes don't have staff lists. But that doesn't appear

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Re: Tuplets across barlines

2019-08-14 Thread Robert Patterson
Patterson Plugins does not have a feature to put tuplets across barlines. If the tuplet is beamed, then Beam Over Barlines may (or may not) do it correctly, depending on context. On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 9:38 AM Barbara Touburg wrote: > On 14-8-2019 16:33, Michael Lawlor wrote: > > I only have

Re: [Finale] Tuplets across barlines

2019-08-14 Thread Robert Patterson
You could force the entire tuplet into the previous bar and then manually drag the notes into alignment. On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 7:44 AM Michael Lawlor wrote: > Finale 2014 > > Does anyone know a way to create tuplets grouped across barlines other > than breaking the tuplet into two, one in

Re: [Finale] Elision Slurs in lyrics

2019-08-10 Thread Robert Patterson
create a font - OR - I've included the elision shape expression library > I used in the earlier versions of Finale, that I still sometimes use. > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/grk6qjpymzrrszo/BpN1qzYMJUQDT7h1bOCua?dl=0 > > Hope this is helpful. > > Cheers! > Steve Fiskum > &

[Finale] Elision Slurs in lyrics

2019-08-10 Thread Robert Patterson
Does anyone know a more professional approach to elisions than the way suggested in the Finale manual? The manual proposes the character shift-I from the Engraver Font Set. The big problem with that is that it leaves a gap between the two syllables. This is visually the opposite of what we want

Re: [Finale] Lyric window does not show entire lyric

2019-08-08 Thread Robert Patterson
ld Mac system fonts. > > > On Aug 7, 2019, at 8:47 PM, Robert Patterson < > rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > > > > I actually the problem is the opposite of what you stated. I believe that > > certain fonts see the problem whereas more mainstream fonts don't. Fo

Re: [Finale] Lyric window does not show entire lyric

2019-08-07 Thread Robert Patterson
would not say the problem is solved. But at least the steps to reproduce it have been refined and narrowed. On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 7:16 PM David H. Bailey wrote: > On 8/7/2019 2:55 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: > > I have been following up on this with Makemusic. It turns out that if I &

Re: [Finale] Lyric window does not show entire lyric

2019-08-07 Thread Robert Patterson
I have been following up on this with Makemusic. It turns out that if I change the font of my Lyrics to Times then I can see the entire block. For those on this thread who have experienced this problem, I thought you might like to know that it depends which font you use as to whether you see the

Re: [Finale] Lyric window does not show entire lyric

2019-08-06 Thread Robert Patterson
r manageable section in Finale's numbered verses just > to limit the scope of any problems that would arise. > > Have you reached some Lyric Window size limit, do you think? > > On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 9:40 AM Robert Patterson < > rob...@robertgpatterson.com> > wrote: >

[Finale] Lyric window does not show entire lyric

2019-08-06 Thread Robert Patterson
Has anyone encountered an issue where the Lyric Window does not show all the lyric text? That's what I am seeing for a particularly long lyric text. (It's an opera, so lots of text.) If so, any work arounds? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] dashed lines in smart shapes

2019-08-02 Thread Robert Patterson
I know of no easy way to do this. I have very few times I need to do it, but when I do I actually use beat-attached slurs or dotted slurs. This allows me to guarantee they are horizontal and to control their directions. However, MakeMusic unfortunately has almost abandoned beat-attached slurs in

Re: [Finale] Ease of parenthesizing notes

2019-07-25 Thread Robert Patterson
Thank you to Raymond for bringing this new Finale 26 Articulation feature to the attention of the group. I tinkered with it a little. To be clear, it only works with Finale 26 using the default file(s) shipped with Finale 26 as templates. You could however add equivalent articulation definitions

Re: [Finale] Default file with Wizard

2019-06-21 Thread Robert Patterson
; > Virus-free. > www.avg.com > < > http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail_term=oa-4885-b > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 14:05, Robert Patterson < > rob..

Re: [Finale] Default file with Wizard

2019-06-21 Thread Robert Patterson
I believe you can modify the document style file(s) to change the default page size(s). On Mac the template files are in ~/Library/Application Support/MakeMusic/Finale 26/Music Files/Document Styles They are someplace comparable on Windows, but I don't remember exactly the folder path. On

[Finale] Text underlay question

2019-05-30 Thread Robert Patterson
I would like to set the word "eventually" as 3 syllables, e-ven-tually. It works because the next word is "you'll" and it is quite natural to slur together the final three syllables of "enventually" in that context. But the e-ven-tually hyphenation looks weird. I thought of three possibilities:

Re: [Finale] No success sending PDFs to Australia

2019-05-14 Thread Robert Patterson
I see you are using a gmail address. That comes with ample storage in your Google drive. Just copy the files to a folder in your Shared Files folder, then right click the subfolder for link that you can send to the people in Australia. On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 6:29 AM Raymond Horton wrote: > An

Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

2019-05-05 Thread Robert Patterson
If your ethernet is wired, turn off wifi on your computer. On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 12:18 PM Robert Patterson < rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > So first things first. Check that ping actually produces different results > on your wife's machine. Then make doubly certain you have

Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

2019-05-05 Thread Robert Patterson
gt; > Expected? > > Am 05.05.19 um 18:31 schrieb Robert Patterson: > > Suppose your printer's IP address is 192.168.1.5. Open your terminal and > > type in > > > > ping 192.168.1.5 > > > > If your computer can see the address it should start responding &

Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

2019-05-05 Thread Robert Patterson
at 11:27 AM Johannes Gebauer wrote: > Am 05.05.19 um 18:22 schrieb Robert Patterson: > > Does the printer answer a ping? > > How do I test this? > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.

Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

2019-05-05 Thread Robert Patterson
> > This is driving me nuts, I desperately need to print some music out. > > Am 05.05.19 um 18:00 schrieb Robert Patterson: > > i don't know why you doubt lack of compatibility with Mojave. It could > well > > be that. How old is the driver, and is there a newer one? > > &g

Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

2019-05-05 Thread Robert Patterson
That does sound more like network settings. Can you access any addresses on your local wireless network? (Like the router address?) On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 11:11 AM Johannes Gebauer wrote: > Another update: Disabling the firewall makes no difference. > > I can also not access the web interface

Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

2019-05-05 Thread Robert Patterson
i don't know why you doubt lack of compatibility with Mojave. It could well be that. How old is the driver, and is there a newer one? In a pinch you should be able to access it as a share on your wife's computer. On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 10:57 AM Johannes Gebauer wrote: > Yes, config page is as

Re: [Finale] [OT] voice part only

2019-05-05 Thread Robert Patterson
In my experience, the singer reads from score, with the proviso that the vocal line is immediately above the piano line and that the other instruments on are reduced-size staves above the vocal line. (See, for example, the score of Pierrot Lunaire

[Finale] Opera Score Order

2019-04-24 Thread Robert Patterson
Hello list, I am interested to know if there is any particular convention around the score order for vocal parts in an opera. Is it strictly by voice type, or is there a preference given to principle vs. secondary parts? Or some other convention I haven't thought of? Thank you for any insights

Re: [Finale] Disappearing parts

2019-04-01 Thread Robert Patterson
It sounds like file corruption to me. I would run Data Check and see what it says. On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 2:47 PM Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > Hi all, > > I have an issue that's a little tricky to explain. > > This weekend I had to go back to a flute/piano score and make a fix where > Finale

[Finale] Importance of 3rd Party Plugins to Finale

2019-03-27 Thread Robert Patterson
The Tantacrul Youtube channel recently published a good critique video of MuseScore. The channel has already published one on Sibelius and is promising one for Dorico and Finale as well. In the Fin/Sib wars, the author is definitely a Sib partisan, though he hates the design layout of Sib.

Re: [Finale] Collision of Noteheads

2019-03-21 Thread Robert Patterson
You can use the Notehead Position Tool to move the notehead wherever you need it to be. (This is one of the Special Tools, which is available on the Tool Palette under the wrench icon.) On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 11:24 AM Michael Lawlor wrote: > The notes are semibreves, so there is no stem. > >

Re: [Finale] Moving measures

2019-03-12 Thread Robert Patterson
I've seen this behavior when the 1st of the two measures you are trying to move had a page break attached. On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 8:53 AM Christopher Smith < christopher.sm...@videotron.ca> wrote: > Are you in the Selection Tool? > > Otherwise, when Finale starts acting wonky, I quit, logout

Re: [Finale] Multi-part staves in large scores (Fin 25)

2019-03-04 Thread Robert Patterson
Christopher, Your problems might be related to the frame count. I couldn't say for sure. You could run Data Check and see what happens. I don't recall how to display file stats in Fin06, but I believe there is a way. If the stats show a frame count anywhere close 32767, you are in the danger

Re: [Finale] Multi-part staves in large scores (Fin 25)

2019-03-04 Thread Robert Patterson
As you have noted, every solution to this issue is a workaround. But maintaining a score that contains both a combined staff for the score and separated staves for the parts seems like an attractive option. Whether you create the separated staves first and combine them or create the combine staff

Re: [Finale] Metatools

2019-02-12 Thread Robert Patterson
You can reprogram the transposition metatools (6-9) by hitting cmd-shift-# while in the Selection Tool. On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 7:11 AM Christopher Smith < christopher.sm...@videotron.ca> wrote: > Those are the default metatools. In the Selection Tool, > 6 down a step > 7 up a step > 8 down an

Re: [Finale] Hairpins

2019-02-02 Thread Robert Patterson
t; Sent from my iPhone > > > On 2 Feb 2019, at 23:15, Robert Patterson > wrote: > > > > Unzip the plugins files. > > Quit Finale. > > Drag the "Patterson Plugins" folder to Finale's plugin folder. > > Restart Finale. > > > > You can find

Re: [Finale] Hairpins

2019-02-02 Thread Robert Patterson
> >> Hi downloaded can see the files > >> How do I open in finale > >> Thank you > >> Martin > >> > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On 2 Feb 2019, at 18:31, Robert Patterson > wrote: > >>> > >>

Re: [Finale] Hairpins

2019-02-02 Thread Robert Patterson
You can get Mass Copy by downloading it from my website . The download includes an unrestricted 30-day trial. On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 12:07 PM Martin Nickless wrote: > Hi how do I get that ? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 2 Feb 2019, at 17:31,

Re: [Finale] Sale: Dorico Pro 2 and Dorico Elements 2

2019-01-31 Thread Robert Patterson
Dannewitz wrote: > Yes, I would agree too. TGTools and other plugins make Finale perfectly > fine for doing music. > > And it doesn’t require some stupid dongle to run on multiple computer. > > > > On Jan 31, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Robert Patterson < > rob...@robertgpatterso

Re: [Finale] Sale: Dorico Pro 2 and Dorico Elements 2

2019-01-31 Thread Robert Patterson
It seems as though the point of my plugin post is being lost. The point was that with 3rd-party plugins you can design a work flow in Finale that is highly efficient. That Dorico can achieve comparable efficiency out of the box is to its credit, but my point is that it is quite possible to achieve

Re: [Finale] Sale: Dorico Pro 2 and Dorico Elements 2

2019-01-26 Thread Robert Patterson
more than anything. Thanks for all of your > descriptions here, this is an amazing discussion! And I would love to hear > how many of these are addressed in Dorico out-of-the-box from someone who > is using it regularly. > > — Mike > > On January 26, 2019 at 10:04:45 AM, Robert Pa

Re: [Finale] Sale: Dorico Pro 2 and Dorico Elements 2

2019-01-26 Thread Robert Patterson
: > This is an interesting discussion….I am interested in hearing what 3rd > party plugins are you referring to, Robert. I am always looking for ways > to automate Finale. > > Larry Eden > > > On Jan 25, 2019, at 11:03 AM, Robert Patterson < > rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: &

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Sale: Dorico Pro 2 and Dorico Elements 2

2019-01-25 Thread Robert Patterson
I would be very interested to know more specifics about the things that are "well beyond Fin/Sib". Graphically, I know about flexible slurs, and I would be curious to know if lines (like 8va) also have multiple inflection points. Beyond that, I would be curious to know what makes Dorico so much

Re: [Finale] Changing grace note values

2019-01-22 Thread Robert Patterson
ply the plugin in chunks. But it should be faster than hand-editing them all. On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 9:24 AM Robert Patterson < rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > If the main notes are not also eighth notes, you could use Change Note > Values. It's not ideal, but it might

Re: [Finale] Changing grace note values

2019-01-22 Thread Robert Patterson
If the main notes are not also eighth notes, you could use Change Note Values. It's not ideal, but it might be quicker than reentering the notes. There is a freeware plugin called JW Change that seems to offer what you want, but I couldn't get it to work in a quick trial. On Tue, Jan 22, 2019

Re: [Finale] SOME IRRITATING BEHAVIORS

2019-01-21 Thread Robert Patterson
Tuplet Brackets Document Options->Tuplets Select "Always Use Specified Shape" Grace Note Spacing Document Options->Music Spacing Select Grace Note Spacing Keep Current. Also consider turning off Automatic Music Spacing in Preferences->Edit Note-Attached Glissandos Use "Tab-Slide Tool" instead

Re: [Finale] Anyway to speed up how long it takes to load finale the 26? I am opening off a SSD

2018-12-07 Thread Robert Patterson
If you don't use plugins, you could move the plugins folder. Or better, change the plugin folder (in Preferences) to an empty folder and see if that helps. On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 1:14 PM Jim Fischer wrote: > Really takes a long time to load version 26 any ideas? > Gym > > :: j i m f i s c h e

Re: [Finale] page layout

2018-11-24 Thread Robert Patterson
I do not see the behavior you describe with margins. It may be some setting unique to your file. One thing to check is if Avoid Margin Collisions being checked or unchecked makes a difference. I used New->Document Without Libraries. Then I added 100 or so bars to it. Your margin editing procedure

[Finale] Different spacing for score and parts

2018-10-26 Thread Robert Patterson
I don't normally post information about the Patterson Plugins Collection here, but in this case I want to let the list know about a feature that I added as a direct result of discussion here. In a thread from a few months ago there was discussion of the need for different spacing in score and

Re: [Finale] Beaming 5/16 in One Group

2018-10-20 Thread Robert Patterson
Another way is to make the composite signature 1/16+16+16+16+16 with 5/16 as display. On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 2:24 PM David Wolfson wrote: > .625 /2 in the composite time signature box would give you what you want, > with 5/16 for display. > > David Wolfson > www.davidwolfsonmusic.net > > > On

Re: [Finale] Scoring Notes review of Finale 26

2018-10-18 Thread Robert Patterson
In my opinion, the most significant caveat of Fin26 is described by this quote from Mark Adler: "while you can update an old file to v26 and choose not to update articulation positioning for those markings already in the document, Finale does update the file to use the new positioning calculation

Re: [Finale] Finale 26 bug

2018-10-13 Thread Robert Patterson
I'm pretty sure Fin25 also has this behavior. On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 12:26 PM Chuck Israels wrote: > Hi All, > > Please confirm: try to lasso repeat ending brackets and text in a part in > order to nudge them up or down. My experience — nudged once and then lost > its grip. Lassoed again —

Re: [Finale] Fin26 Observations

2018-10-11 Thread Robert Patterson
David Bailey said: "it stacks the articulations as it feels they ought to be." Actually, it stacks the articulations based on their order in the Articulation Selection dialog box. If you want them to stack in a different order, you can change their order in the list and they will automatically

Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

2018-10-10 Thread Robert Patterson
The main enhancements are stacked articulations and automatic stem length for tremolos. Beyond these I am hoping that Finale 26 will include further enhancements in dot releases. We'll see. On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 3:27 PM David H. Bailey wrote: > On 10/10/2018 3:54 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: >

Re: [Finale] orch score part naming

2018-09-28 Thread Robert Patterson
Part names are not in any way tied to staff names. You can name the staves and/or groups one thing and the parts another. On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 1:32 PM, David Froom wrote: > Hello all, > > I suddenly (Finale 25, Mac) am stumped with having score staff names > appear as numbers with a single

[Finale] OT: Katherine Hoover (1937-2018)

2018-09-25 Thread Robert Patterson
Hello List, The composer Katherine Hoover was a long-time lurker on this list and occasionally posted. She passed a way a few days ago. For anyone who's interested, here is an obituary .

Re: [Finale] Major problems with win2014 file opened in 25

2018-09-02 Thread Robert Patterson
Google turns this up: https://makemusic.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/218050767-Installing-font-annotation-files-for-third-party-fonts On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 12:27 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: > Pablo's suggestion did not help. In private messages, Henry Howey suggested > I switch music fonts. I

Re: [Finale] Major problems with win2014 file opened in 25

2018-08-31 Thread Robert Patterson
I second what Dennis said. Make sure both version are using the same (Fin25) fan file(s) for your symbol fonts. On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 9:58 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz < bath...@maltedmedia.com> wrote: > On Fri, August 31, 2018 10:52 pm, Raymond Horton wrote: > > Help! I have a few files that I

Re: [Finale] Fonts

2018-08-31 Thread Robert Patterson
This is a problem with Adope Type 3 Postscript Fonts. (A font format from the 1980s.) You may be able to fix the problem by first saving the file in Fin14.5 or Fin14d. Otherwise you will have to find otf alternatives. On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:24 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > Sounds like you are

Re: [Finale] QUARTER TONE TRANSPOSITION

2018-07-29 Thread Robert Patterson
A google search turns up this: http://wardbaxter.com/education/QuarterTones_Finale.php On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 10:53 AM, dr.a.s. weinstangel wrote: > Is it possible to get a quarter tone higher or lower playback for > scordatura string parts? > > > Thank you for your help! > > >

Re: [Finale] FINMAC - iKey?

2018-07-28 Thread Robert Patterson
It's called yKey now and has been updated for 10.13. I replaced OX9 Quickeys with this. I believe there is now an OSX Quickeys, so it may be a better choice for you. But yKey does everything I need it to. On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 3:38 PM, Simon Troup <

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2014.5 CUES!

2018-07-25 Thread Robert Patterson
serious addressing of long-standing problems. > > Best, > David > > > On 25 Jul 2018, at 1:00 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: > > > > David, > > > > I switched to having a single document for score and parts several years > > ago. It requires a little more

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2014.5 CUES!

2018-07-25 Thread Robert Patterson
David, I switched to having a single document for score and parts several years ago. It requires a little more time, but I think it is worth it. To address the issues you raised: 1. Do not use "Blank notation with rests: Layer 4". This staff style can occasionally be useful for partial measures

Re: [Finale] Unusual Notation Question

2018-07-20 Thread Robert Patterson
> but in the scan no "div." is indicated. It is not customary to mark wind/brass parts divisi, since they are always one-on-a-part anyway. On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 11:56 AM, SN jef chippewa < shirl...@newmusicnotation.com> wrote: > > i would say that is also a possibility, top line left measure

Re: [Finale] Unusual Notation Question

2018-07-20 Thread Robert Patterson
Is it not just divisi notes in clusters? (I can barely see the scan.) On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Christopher Smith < christopher.sm...@videotron.ca> wrote: > I would have to agree. The forked stems mean all the notes sound at the > same time (just like a chord), while the 6 underneath and

Re: [Finale] Dorico 2

2018-05-31 Thread Robert Patterson
> > Best, > -WR > > -- > Will Roberts > whrcompo...@fastmail.fm > > On Thu, May 31, 2018, at 7:01 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: > > Could you send a link to the demo? I would be interested in seeing how > > sting divisi are handled. > > > > On Thu, M

Re: [Finale] Dorico 2

2018-05-31 Thread Robert Patterson
Could you send a link to the demo? I would be interested in seeing how sting divisi are handled. On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 5:11 AM, Will Roberts wrote: > Did anybody else get an email from Steinberg yesterday about the new > version of Dorico? I tried the first version out about a year ago but >

Re: [Finale] Score and Parts

2018-05-18 Thread Robert Patterson
Larry, You can use the File->Print dialog to print score, parts, or any combination thereof. The Finale 25 print dialog is far from perfect but it is usable. Your title problem sounds like it could be file corruption. Do you see the problem when you open the file fresh immediately after starting

[Finale] Plugin Menu in Fin25 macOS 10.13

2018-05-16 Thread Robert Patterson
Hello Listers, Ever since I upgrade my macOS to 10.13 a few weeks ago, my plugin menu is no longer in alpa order. It is jumbled up. Everything that's supposed to be there is there, but it's in no discernible order. Has anyone else seen this? If so, is there a fix?

Re: [Finale] printing advice

2018-04-29 Thread Robert Patterson
Yes, if you only need to go up to 11x17, you have lots of options. The printers I looked at had to go to 12x18 and 13x20 would have been beter. On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 8:32 AM, David H. Bailey <dhbaile...@comcast.net> wrote: > On 4/29/2018 8:20 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: > >>

Re: [Finale] printing advice

2018-04-29 Thread Robert Patterson
he printer so I can tell the Mac where it is, if it doesn’t find > it automatically. > >> > >> Every time something like this happens and I think I need a new > printer, a cure turns up and the HP 5000N soldiers on. > >> > >> For B large format — others hav

Re: [Finale] printing advice

2018-04-28 Thread Robert Patterson
ence, it is a HP5000N). It is a 600dpi, large-format, laser printer. > >> > >> I use a MacBook, running Sierra (not High Sierra). Suddenly, with the > last system upgrade from Apple (to 10.12.6), the printer is no longer found. > >> > >> Is anyone on the list usin

Re: [Finale] printing advice

2018-04-28 Thread Robert Patterson
I think Chuck's suggestion of dropping and re-adding the printer is the right first step. It looks like HP has stopped supporting the 5000. If dropping and re-adding it doesn't work (as Chuck suggested), I have some further suggestions. 1) Download the appropriate driver from the hp website and

Re: [Finale] Finale Linked Parts: what's missing?

2018-04-23 Thread Robert Patterson
About grace note spacing in linked parts, note position alterations have been unlinkable for some time now. (I don't recall exactly which version, but at least since Fin12.) That doesn't address the larger issue of grace note spacing in general, but my Mass Copy plugin is useful if you have to do

Re: [Finale] Finale Linked Parts: what's missing?

2018-04-22 Thread Robert Patterson
Where having minimal files helps a lot is when you have to add or remove measures after the fact. Then opening a modifying 2 files is much easier than modifying 30. Btw: I still use 2 files for some projects, but only for large ensembles with parts doubled up on single lines in the score. For

Re: [Finale] Finale Linked Parts: what's missing?

2018-04-22 Thread Robert Patterson
> I encountered other issues which can be fairly attributed to pilot error, > > and some of the above problems may have already been addressed. I'm > ready > > to embrace linked parts, as soon as the pain of special cases and > > workarounds is exceeded by the benefits. O

[Finale] Finale Linked Parts: what's missing?

2018-04-22 Thread Robert Patterson
I am starting a new thread because my comments seem to be buried in the recent Dorico thread. I would like to poll this list about what features are missing from Linked Parts. I am doing so with an eye towards a possible plugin to address what can be addressed. Things that cannot be addressed by

Re: [Finale] What is the Finale strategy?

2018-04-21 Thread Robert Patterson
gt; > Skjalg - for anledningen på nett med iPhone. > > > 21. apr. 2018 kl. 16:15 skrev Robert Patterson < > rob...@robertgpatterson.com>: > > > > Could you elaborate on what you find lacking in Finale's linked parts vs. > > Sib. (or even Dorico)? Some of t

Re: [Finale] What is the Finale strategy?

2018-04-21 Thread Robert Patterson
special tools -No enharmonic flips > > Another limitation for linked part: Plug-ins/Script not accessible. > (Scripts are accessible with a workaround, but...) > > Skjalg - for anledningen på nett med iPhone. > > > 21. apr. 2018 kl. 16:15 skrev Robert Patterson <

Re: [Finale] What is the Finale strategy?

2018-04-21 Thread Robert Patterson
inding and using the tools > which allow us to get the desired result with the minimum of effort for us > so that most of our effort can be put into the creative side of things. > > > > On 4/21/2018 8:33 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: > >> > And with the entry of Dorico at the tr

Re: [Finale] What is the Finale strategy?

2018-04-21 Thread Robert Patterson
> And with the entry of Dorico at the truly professional music engraving level Wait. Is Dorico at the truly professional level? All I've heard is that it has the potential to be but isn't there yet. I mean, one of the Dorico users in this thread even said they export to Finale for the finished

Re: [Finale] What is the Finale strategy?

2018-04-20 Thread Robert Patterson
StudioOne, Cakewalk, Protools, etc). With any DAW, you operate on the > material in real time -- even while the sound files are playing -- to dial > in the results you want.A person can use Audacity, and some people still > do. But the world has mostly moved on to real time. > > >

Re: [Finale] What is the Finale strategy?

2018-04-20 Thread Robert Patterson
s and small jazz groups quartets quintets etc > > to my mind finale works perfectly well for those type of projects > > Martin > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On 20 Apr 2018, at 13:17, Robert Patterson > >> <rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > >

Re: [Finale] What is the Finale strategy?

2018-04-20 Thread Robert Patterson
ul than the French > student. > > What clef does the "voilà" use? The French violin clef of course. > > David H. Bailey > > > > On 4/19/2018 9:46 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: > > > > > >> On Apr 19, 2018, at 5:18 PM, David H. Bailey <dhbaile...@comcas

Re: [Finale] What is the Finale strategy?

2018-04-19 Thread Robert Patterson
I don't think I understand Steve Parker's comment about "MT scores". I don't doubt that Finale requires stitching together thirty files, but I don't understand the requirement well enough to understand why. My question about different layouts is, are they anything like linked parts? Because an

Re: [Finale] What is the Finale strategy?

2018-04-19 Thread Robert Patterson
art. It > seems doubtful to me Finale will ever return to anywhere close to the state > of the art. Moreover, I don't see any indication the company even > considers that a goal. > > > > > On 4/19/2018 1:46 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: > >> Tempo tool and B

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