Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

On 17.08.2006 Tyler Turner wrote: How so? If you needed an additional part, you'd create it. There would be times that you could change the staves that were in a part and preserve the work that had been done to the part from the score. I don't understand how having a linked part from the beginnin

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Tyler Turner wrote: --- Johannes Gebauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I might be missing something, but what is wrong with having items which can be set to only display in the score, even before parts exist. Ok, an additional benefit might be to include a mechanism which could selectivly link

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Johannes Gebauer wrote: I might be missing something, but what is wrong with having items which can be set to only display in the score, even before parts exist. Ok, an additional benefit might be to include a mechanism which could selectivly link them to certain parts, but as a start I'd be

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--- Johannes Gebauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Creating the parts when setting up the score would > be a serious > limitation, and cause a lot of extra work later on. How so? If you needed an additional part, you'd create it. There would be times that you could change the staves that were

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On 17.08.2006 Tyler Turner wrote: For this option to not hurt my work, it would have to have some sort of checker that I could run to hunt for items with this setting. It would be difficult enough for me to remember if I had enabled this setting for an object in one of my own scores several month

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--- Johannes Gebauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I might be missing something, but what is wrong with > having items which > can be set to only display in the score, even before > parts exist. Ok, an > additional benefit might be to include a mechanism > which could > selectivly link them to

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

Ok .. after reading all the reviews and deciding that Fin07 is probably a good thing (i.e., more positives than negatives, I think) I shall order the upgrade immediately. Thank you all for the dialog and wish me luck. Dean ___ Finale mailing li

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On 16.08.2006 Tyler Turner wrote: I'd call it necessary. Where is an object going to show up at if it's not linked when the part is initially created? It sounds to me like we'd have some extremely unpredictable behavior if the creation of a part didn't initially have objects placed in the same wa

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

I installed FinMac 2007 Monday night, and I must say that this upgrade is the most important to me since '04, which brought Finale into Mac OSX.  The linked parts feature is going to save me a tremendous amount of time, as well as disk space.  I was able to open an existing file, set up linked part

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--- Johannes Gebauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 15.08.2006 Robert Patterson wrote: > > The Unlink from Parts option is grayed out until > there actually are parts present. What we were > discussing is setting this up once in a template. > > > Stupid. Really stupid. I'd call it necessary

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Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 16.08.2006 Richard Yates wrote: Reminds me of a recent luxury car advertisement that made conspicuous mention of the heated windshield washer fluid as if this was a major engineering breakthrough. Recent? I have that in my very old car built in 1989... Johannes J

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Phil Daley / 2006/08/16 / 10:18 AM wrote: >I have run German and Polish WinNT Oh, OK. My apology. I should had said multi-byte language. Oracle was probably the first utf-8 commercial product widely used everywhere. NT5 kernel and later will process data in utf-8, but Windows display engine c

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At 8/16/2006 09:52 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: >Phil Daley / 2006/08/16 / 06:51 AM wrote: > >>What OSes?  Mac?  Linux? > >All but Windows as I mentioned. > >>There are zillions of Windows "non Unicode native" programs >>that run perfectly on Windows. >> > >I bet you have never used non English OS, y

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Phil Daley / 2006/08/16 / 06:51 AM wrote: >What OSes?  Mac?  Linux? All but Windows as I mentioned. >There are zillions of Windows "non Unicode native" programs >that run perfectly on Windows. > I bet you have never used non English OS, yes? -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston

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The lack of Unicode support in Finale is precisely why I went for Harmony Assistant. Enough said. Best regards, Jerry --- Tyler Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- A-NO-NE Music <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > That's not the point, tho. All the OSes process > > data in UTF-8/16 n

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On 16.08.2006 Richard Yates wrote: Reminds me of a recent luxury car advertisement that made conspicuous mention of the heated windshield washer fluid as if this was a major engineering breakthrough. Recent? I have that in my very old car built in 1989... Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktu

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At 8/16/2006 07:35 AM, Richard Yates wrote: >Reminds me of a recent luxury car advertisement that made conspicuous >mention of the heated windshield washer fluid as if this was a major >engineering breakthrough. Reminds me of the Consumer Product Safety Commission requiring seat belts in cars a

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>>But precisely because it was such an easy thing to implement, and because the benefit to notation is zero and it is merely cosmetic and only works in Page View, what grates is the big splash such a tiny improvement made in the marketing hype. It was touted as a huge feature.>> Reminds me of a r

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At 8/15/2006 06:41 PM, Morris Inouye wrote:   On 8/15/06, A-NO-NE Music <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's not a question of just font but more in data processing.  Finale has to be Unicode native in order to run natively on current OSes. Sorry, I must have missed this statement. What OSes?  Mac? 

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

David W. Fenton wrote: On 15 Aug 2006 at 14:14, dc wrote: Tyler Turner écrit: Is it [Unicode support] requested as much as any of the major features implemented in Finale over the past few years? Not by a long shot. Textured paper springs to mind... From a programming standpoint, textured p

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On 15.08.2006 Robert Patterson wrote: Allen Fisher: > You can also hide it in the score, and leave it in for the parts. The Unlink from Parts option is grayed out until there actually are parts present. What we were discussing is setting this up once in a template. Stupid. Really stupid.

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On 15.08.2006 Tyler Turner wrote: This is consistent with what I would have expected to see after 2 years of communicating with thousands of users. Tyler, I certainly do not want to criticize you personally. However, MakeMusic's (and in fact Coda's) level of communication with its user bas

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--- A-NO-NE Music <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Yes, it was the point. We were discussing the > >popularity of unicode as a feature request. > > Huh? > I was talking about data passing. You enter utf-8 > character in File > Info under Finale's File menu, which is corrupted on > Page view. I

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

Oh man. My copy of FinMac207 was scheduled to be delivered yesterday, which has changed to today by mid day yesterday. I waited all day today. Checking UPS site for tracking every hour. I just did that at 11:30 pm and it still said "On Schedule", "In Transit". Just now, at 11:45 pm, it turns i

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On 15 Aug 2006 at 14:14, dc wrote: > Tyler Turner écrit: > >Is it [Unicode support] requested as much as any of the major > >features implemented in Finale over the past few years? Not by a long > >shot. > > Textured paper springs to mind... >From a programming standpoint, textured paper was one

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Tyler Turner / 2006/08/15 / 01:13 PM wrote: >--- A-NO-NE Music <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> That's not the point, tho. All the OSes process >> data in UTF-8/16 now. >> Even Win2K/XP processes in Unicode even though their >> display is still MS >> propriety code page. > >Yes, it was the poin

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On 15 Aug 2006 at 7:55, dhbailey wrote: > As to the linked score/parts, whether it was the number 1 request from > users or not, the moment Sibelius' marketing department began touting > it as a great feature of Sib4, I'm sure the Finale marketing > department began clamoring for it, and it seems

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Morris Inouye wrote: On 8/15/06, *A-NO-NE Music* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Tyler Turner / 2006/08/15 / 07:09 AM wrote: >Calling unicode a "popular" feature request is sort of >a relative statement. Is it requested by people? Yes. >Is it requeste

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

On 8/15/06, A-NO-NE Music <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tyler Turner / 2006/08/15 / 07:09 AM wrote:>Calling unicode a "popular" feature request is sort of>a relative statement. Is it requested by people? Yes.>Is it requested as much as any of the major features >implemented in Finale over the past few

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Allen Fisher: > You can also hide it in the score, and leave it in for the parts. The Unlink from Parts option is grayed out until there actually are parts present. What we were discussing is setting this up once in a template. ___ Finale mailing li

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You can also hide it in the score, and leave it in for the parts. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyler Turner > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 8:53 PM > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: Re: [Finale]

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--- A-NO-NE Music <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's not the point, tho. All the OSes process > data in UTF-8/16 now. > Even Win2K/XP processes in Unicode even though their > display is still MS > propriety code page. Yes, it was the point. We were discussing the popularity of unicode as a

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

Tyler Turner / 2006/08/15 / 07:09 AM wrote: >Calling unicode a "popular" feature request is sort of >a relative statement. Is it requested by people? Yes. >Is it requested as much as any of the major features >implemented in Finale over the past few years? Not by >a long shot. That's not the poin

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--- dc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tyler Turner écrit: > >Is it [Unicode support] requested as much as any of > the major features > >implemented in Finale over the past few years? Not > by > >a long shot. > > Textured paper springs to mind... > > Dennis > I'd put money on more people carin

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--- dhbailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When the head tech-support person calls something a > "very popular > request" we can only assume that it is a "very > popular request" and > there seems to be nothing particularly relative > about that. Unless they > rank things by some sort of scal

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Tyler Turner wrote: --- dhbailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot From this we can conclude that frequency of requests for a particular feature doesn't always mean diddly-squat in Finale's prioritizing which features get implemented or improved. Just another bit of confidence slowly eroding away.

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--- dhbailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot > > From this we can conclude that frequency of > requests for a particular > feature doesn't always mean diddly-squat in Finale's > prioritizing which > features get implemented or improved. > > Just another bit of confidence slowly eroding away. > Ca

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Rudolf van Berkum wrote: Dennis Collins asked: Does Finale 2007 support Unicode? This has been on my wish-list for years... But I see no mention of this on the website. I posed this very question to FinWin support in July, and their reply was: Finale does not currently support UNICOD

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dc wrote: Does anyone know if Sibelius supports Unicode fonts? William Roberts écrit: Yes, it does. On Mac it also supports OpenType features such as automatic ligatures, which is pretty cool! Thanks! Pretty cool indeed. The main reason I need Unicode is precisely for ligatures. De

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dc wrote: Does anyone know if Sibelius supports Unicode fonts? Yes, it does. On Mac it also supports OpenType features such as automatic ligatures, which is pretty cool! Best, -WR ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mail

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Dennis Collins asked: Does Finale 2007 support Unicode? This has been on my wish-list for years... But I see no mention of this on the website. I posed this very question to FinWin support in July, and their reply was: Finale does not currently support UNICODE fonts. 2007 will not off

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

On 14.08.2006 Richard Smith wrote: I respond to Finale much as you do to Sibelius. I think it's just that I am more familiar with Sibelius. Having customized Finale to reflect your own manner of working is best. Similarly I have programmed Sibelius keyboard commands for my laptop to accommodat

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

Richard Smith wrote: I would like the first two beats of the measure to have the second violin part in voice 2. I don't want the entire bar in voice 2 because it's a piano part and I don't want unneeded stems hanging around. For this kind of short polyphony I would use V1/V2 rather than lay

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

At 08:59 AM 8/14/2006, Richard Smith wrote: >I hesitate to point out that simple entry >was a response to Sibelius' note entry methods (v. 2004 I believe). When >I upgraded to 2005 it was specifically to get simple entry. Well, Simple Entry had been around in Finale for a long time before that.

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My Finale experience goes back about 1991 or so. I remember when nearly everyone used speedy entry nearly all of the time. Finale's new simple entry is indeed quite good. I hesitate to point out that simple entry was a response to Sibelius' note entry methods (v. 2004 I believe). When I upgrade

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

Richard Smith wrote: [snip]> because one of the two comes closer to the way we think about music. I'm glad both [Sibelius and Finale] are so mature and capable. [snip] Amen to that, Richard -- without Sibelius, Finale wouldn't have become anything near the program it is today, and without Fin

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Say two violin staves are to be combined into one treble clef piano part. In one measure, violin one plays dotted quarter, eighth, and half notes. Violin two plays two half notes. After the two are combined, the second violin part has become dotted quarter tied to eighth followed by half. These

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

--- Don Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Richard, > > I may not totally understand the difficulties your > job presented, but layers > can easily be reassigned if "view active layer only" > is selected, and all > four layers are not in use (doable, but not what I'd > describe as easy when >

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Hi Richard, I may not totally understand the difficulties your job presented, but layers can easily be reassigned if "view active layer only" is selected, and all four layers are not in use (doable, but not what I'd describe as easy when all layers are busy). I believe that there is also a plugin

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

On 13 Aug 2006 at 22:11, Richard Smith wrote: > I think I was unclear about the Keypad in Sibelius. Most of the time > (laptop on the go excluded) I use the 10 key pad on the keyboard. But I have to use the onscreen toolbar to know what the hell the keys do on the keypad. > Clicking on the "tool

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--- Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think I was unclear about the Keypad in Sibelius. > Most of the time > (laptop on the go excluded) I use the 10 key pad on > the keyboard. > Clicking on the "toolbar" on the screen is slower. > The features I like > to have close at hand are al

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I think I was unclear about the Keypad in Sibelius. Most of the time (laptop on the go excluded) I use the 10 key pad on the keyboard. Clicking on the "toolbar" on the screen is slower. The features I like to have close at hand are almost all on the top tab on the keypad (or in the right click

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On 13 Aug 2006 at 8:25, dhbailey wrote: > Curiously though, there are also some heavy-hitter Sibelius users > (admittedly not many) who don't like it either and who use Sibelius' > wonderful key-mapping feature to map most of their most commonly used > keypad commands to qwerty-keyboard commands.

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

On 13.08.2006 Christopher Smith wrote: If you are using Finale's Create Cue plugin, you get just about everything you need, except, of course, mirror behaviour. You can turn off playback for Layer 4 on any staff with a cue, assuming you are reserving Layer 4 for cues. No, that plugin regularl

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On Aug 12, 2006, at 4:12 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 12.08.2006 Richard Smith wrote: If I understand your question, Sibelius will allow you to select a note or entire passage and, with one click, convert it into a cue. You can also easily turn off the sound in the passage (or note by n

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

Richard Smith wrote: I think different people think and work differently and this is why a feature some like is deplored by others. Although I had almost 10 years of successful Finale experience before moving primarily to Sibelius, I much prefer the way Sibelius works. I have frequently said it

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Richard Smith wrote: Yes. On the keypad (under the second tab) there is a button the toggles between full size and cue size. Select any note or passage, click the button and it becomes a cue. Click it again and it's full size. Disabling the sound (if you want) is a second step found in the pro

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ttp://arts-mariposa.org/symphony.html - Original Message - From: dhbailey To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 4:27 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review (SNIP)..That reminds me of the scene in the Marx Brothers' Duck Soup, where

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dhbailey wrote: That reminds me of the scene in the Marx Brothers' Duck Soup, where Groucho is the new head of state and at a cabinet meeting someone raises the issue of taxes. Secretary: We must discuss the taxes. Groucho: I'm sorry, that's new business, we're discussing old business right

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I think different people think and work differently and this is why a feature some like is deplored by others. Although I had almost 10 years of successful Finale experience before moving primarily to Sibelius, I much prefer the way Sibelius works. I have frequently said it seems to think more

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

On 12 Aug 2006 at 15:31, Richard Smith wrote: > If your not familiar with Sibelius, the keypad is an on screen > representation of the ten keypad on a full size keyboard. The buttons > may be clicked on screen with the mouse or selected at the actual > keyboard. There are selectable five tabs on

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

Yes. On the keypad (under the second tab) there is a button the toggles between full size and cue size. Select any note or passage, click the button and it becomes a cue. Click it again and it's full size. Disabling the sound (if you want) is a second step found in the properties panel. Again,

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

On 12.08.2006 Richard Smith wrote: If I understand your question, Sibelius will allow you to select a note or entire passage and, with one click, convert it into a cue. You can also easily turn off the sound in the passage (or note by note if you prefer). Does this mean that Sibelius can defi

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On 12.08.2006 Robert Patterson wrote: That said, I'm not sure why you need this any more. I use CocoaBooklet for all my booklet printing needs. It's donation-ware, Universal Binary, and works great. Because Cocao Booklet needs me to make a PDF first. Because going through PDF creation in the

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If I understand your question, Sibelius will allow you to select a note or entire passage and, with one click, convert it into a cue. You can also easily turn off the sound in the passage (or note by note if you prefer). You could also copy a passage into a new staff by highlighting the passa

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Johannes Gebauer wrote: BTW, my current understanding is that FinaleScript booklet printing is not functional for linked parts. If anyone can get it to work, to print parts other than the top part (even that is tricky) I'd love to know. I feel certain it does not work. FinaleScript woul

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

David W. Fenton wrote: I'm on WinFin2K3, If you are still on Fin03, one of the best goodies you'll get from upgrading is autopositioning expressions. So far as saving time goes, I think this is arguably the biggest improvement since Fin03, including linked parts. -- Robert Patterson htt

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On 12.08.2006 Tyler Turner wrote: Another possibility here for some people might be to actually add 2 blank pages at the beginning of the score instead of just 1. A text block on on the first of two blank pages in the score would not show in parts with only a single blank page. This is definit

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On 12.08.2006 dhbailey wrote: I just wish that Finale could come up with some major new notation feature FIRST, instead of always waiting for Sibelius to do it and then see how they can reverse-engineer it and adapt it to Finale. Here is my favourite for such a unique feature (or does Sibeliu

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On 12 Aug 2006 at 7:27, dhbailey wrote: > MakeMusic introduces a new feature which isn't quite as right as it > could be. Next year, it's an old feature and we know they aren't great > at improving old features, preferring to pack in new features. Five > years/versions later, that once-new feature

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On 12 Aug 2006 at 7:17, dhbailey wrote: > I just wish that Finale could come up with some major new notation > feature FIRST, instead of always waiting for Sibelius to do it and > then see how they can reverse-engineer it and adapt it to Finale. The speed with which MakeMusic implemented such a h

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--- Johannes Gebauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think I may work it out anyhow, though I haven't > tested this yet. Is > it possible to unlink a text block from all parts, > even before parts are > generated, so that it won't appear in any future > parts? I must test > this, this might w

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Robt. Patterson: - Start a new document, single staff, with 4/4 time signature. In Staff Attributes check 'Independent Key Signature'. Then with the Time Signature Tool try to change the time signature to 3/4. Nothing happens - it won't change. That one is still there. But it is an absurd t

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On 12.08.2006 Tyler Turner wrote: Is there any chance that a different overall strategy would work better for you? I'm thinking that you might actually modify your templates so that they already have the parts generated in them. In one word, no, since I don't actually use templates for most of

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

On 12.08.2006 Tyler Turner wrote: I'm not sure I understand why it's impossible, unless you're saying that each of your parts also have cover pages. This is the case, at least in parts which work out that way (ie they start the music on a left page, or the page count works out that way). I

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

Le 06-08-11 à 08:42, Aaron Sherber a écrit : Because not everything is linkable/unlinkable in all the ways you might want. To take just one example, Dennis Collins said he likes to have his measure numbers positioned differently in score and parts; you can't do that with linked parts. I al

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dhbailey wrote: And yet they have managed to tweak the HP function with each version since they initiated it, so there is hope. HP is a 3rd-party plugin that MM subcontracted. If that's your sole basis for hope, unfortunately, it is an exception that proves the rule. The Groucho excerpt

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Richard Yates wrote: - On a reduced staff, placement and dragging of expressions separates the expression and the handle - they move at different speeds when you drag. On Mac this has been fixed since at least Fin2004. I would be surprised if it hasn't on Win also. Or perhaps there is a speci

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Aaron Sherber wrote: At 06:05 PM 8/11/2006, Robert Patterson wrote: >The >annual upgrade cycle is not condusive to refining old features. ...or getting new ones quite as right as they could be. That reminds me of the scene in the Marx Brothers' Duck Soup, where Groucho is the new head of s

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Robert Patterson wrote: Matthew Hindson Fastmail acct wrote: Do you know if it's possible to add a blank page to the part but not the linked score? Using the Finale UI there is no problem adding blank pages anywhere to a part (and not to the score). The problem lies in using a plugin to d

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

David W. Fenton wrote: On 11 Aug 2006 at 14:43, Andrew Stiller wrote: I suspect from all this that linked parts will indeed prove invaluable for chamber music, but not for orchestral. An issue that I think is highly relevant, but that only a few can probably comment on, is how the issue of v

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--- Johannes Gebauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I do like to have "Partitur" printed on the the > cover of my scores, but > I do not want it either on the first page, or at the > top of every other > page, like I do with part names. This is impossible > without having to > correct it manual

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On 12.08.2006 Tyler Turner wrote: I don't understand why this is a problem. Johannes pointed out that you can change it in the File Info dialog, either to whatever text you want or to nothing at all. Doesn't this cover it? Not quite, although at least it does give the functionality it had befo

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Tyler Turner wrote: Johannes pointed out that you can change it in the File Info dialog, either to whatever text you want or to nothing at all. Doesn't this cover it? Oops, my bad. I had not noticed this option. I guess this solves it, unless you wanted to use that text somewhere. Ideally

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> > - On a reduced staff, placement and dragging of expressions separates the > > expression and the handle - they move at different speeds when you drag. > > > > On Mac this has been fixed since at least Fin2004. I would be surprised > if it hasn't on Win also. Or perhaps there is a specific type

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--- Robert Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > The problem is that it used to be fully automatic: > nothing in the score, > > but a text block in the part. > > I see your issue now, and agree it is a bad problem. > It is really > useless for "Score" to appear in score view anyway. > The progra

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At 06:05 PM 8/11/2006, Robert Patterson wrote: >The >annual upgrade cycle is not condusive to refining old features. ...or getting new ones quite as right as they could be. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/l

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Richard Yates wrote: - On a reduced staff, placement and dragging of expressions separates the expression and the handle - they move at different speeds when you drag. On Mac this has been fixed since at least Fin2004. I would be surprised if it hasn't on Win also. Or perhaps there is a spec

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> > Is this true? I am VERY encouraged by the lack of complaints! > > Well, here's one: > They STILL haven't fixed. There are two bugs that have been around a long time that I always check on new versions. I think of them as little probes to test MakeMusic's approach to excellence versus

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

Johannes Gebauer wrote: The problem is that it used to be fully automatic: nothing in the score, but a text block in the part. I see your issue now, and agree it is a bad problem. It is really useless for "Score" to appear in score view anyway. The program should allow control over that

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

David, I'm the guy who mentioned Sibelius in this discussion. Since I have not yet ordered Finale 2007, my comments are only from a Sibelius perspective. To split a double part in Sibelius I would probably extract the part and then split it manually (there are plugins and filters to simplify t

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--- "David W. Fenton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > An issue that I think is highly relevant, but that > only a few can > probably comment on, is how the issue of voice > handling in multi-part > score systems -> parts compares to Sibelius's > corresponding solution > to the same problem. I be

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

On 12.08.2006 Robert Patterson wrote: Johannes Gebauer wrote: I hate them for having dropped the part name as text block feature of extract parts. How was this superior to the new Part Name text insert? The old feature placed exactly one title on the first page of the part. And you had litt

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

Johannes Gebauer wrote: I hate them for having dropped the part name as text block feature of extract parts. How was this superior to the new Part Name text insert? The old feature placed exactly one title on the first page of the part. And you had little control of its format or placement

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

On 11.08.2006 Fiskum, Steve wrote: They have removed "New Staff position" from the old Extract Parts' Page Options dialog box. This is a big problem for some of us who work with consistent styles. You should pester MakeMusic about this. Please write to them... Johannes -- http://www.musikmanu

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

On 11.08.2006 Fiskum, Steve wrote: I'm glad they made you happy with this "feature." I for one am not happy with this decision. There is no reason they could not have incorporated both ways of approaching this issue. I, for one, agree, and I hate them for having dropped the part name as text

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

Matthew Hindson Fastmail acct wrote: Do you know if it's possible to add a blank page to the part but not the linked score? Using the Finale UI there is no problem adding blank pages anywhere to a part (and not to the score). The problem lies in using a plugin to do this function. The F

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

Robert Patterson wrote: I have tested all of my plugins in part view, and in the few situations where mine caused bizarre results they do not run in part view. (That is, they flash you back to score view when you run them.) The two functions I found in my own plugins where you could get into t

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

On 11 Aug 2006 at 14:43, Andrew Stiller wrote: > I suspect from all this that linked parts will indeed prove invaluable > for chamber music, but not for orchestral. An issue that I think is highly relevant, but that only a few can probably comment on, is how the issue of voice handling in multi-

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

YES! YES ! YES! This is at least a step in the right direction. Much better than blowing a very useful old feature away. Cheers, Steve On 8/11/06 3:14 PM, "Tyler Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What we essentially need here is a completely new > feature that allows the user to specify

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