Hello Listers,
I'm still struggling on with regaining my Finale skills after the leap from
2000c. :(
Today I wanted to playback 8 of 9 staves for proof-listening. I consulted
the help which said I could select mute or solo in the Score Manager. But
where? Am I missing something obvious?
Help
Hi from Oregon!
The score manager is activated with a command K for the mac and for each staff
line you are able to mute each one or solo each one separately. In Windows it
might be Cntrl K?
I still haven't figured how to mute or solo all of them at once. I think they
were able in earlier
Mac OS 10.9.5
Finale 2014
Hello,
One reason I've not jumped completely into 2014 is the fact that it loses
focus on the current window. What I mean by that is this. The document
I'm on is in the frontmost window. When I type various commands with the
keyboard, like Command-PadeDown/Up to move to
I have a similar problem when quitting Finale. I'm in iMac-Yosemite 10.10.2
Alberto Guzmán Naranjo
Director de Orquesta - Compositor
Profesor Titular Universidad del Valle
2015-04-12 16:46 GMT-05:00 John Roberts an...@nycap.rr.com:
Is there a solution? I just ignore it and continue.
JR
On
Is there a solution? I just ignore it and continue.
JR
On 4/10/15 2:44 PM, Lon Price wrote:
I forget - what is the solution to this problem - Finale 2014 unexpectedly
quit when quitting normally (Mac - Mavericks)
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Lon Price
lonpr...@att.net
I have no idea what Quicklook and Spotlight are. Are these Mac things
that allow you to preview and print the document without actually
opening in Finale?
I could see that could be useful, but that hasn't been a deal breaker
for me, as I've never had that capability in the first place. It
Quicklook lets you hit the space bar and see the score, scroll through it etc.
without opening Finale or the file. If you're looking through twenty versions
of something for a particular thing Quicklook is immediate rather than opening
and closing the files.
Or for something like a quick check
Spotlight hooks into the OS's search system. Depending on what you implement in
your exporter, you can search on things like clef, key, time, composer,
etcetera. IIRC you could search for instruments in a document. Really is handy
when you have a lot of files and need to find a subset quickly.
Agreed with Allen, nice summary. If I recall Allen, wasn't the data for
Quicklook once stored in the resource fork, which meant that it was broken
for those of us using SVN for Finale files? I wonder if I could quickly
raise that so that we don't get back into that situation again.
--
Simon
Dear Dean,
I thought from previous emails that you had already heard a lot about
keyless scores and were looking for practical advice. In that vein, we've
written about keyless scores in the manual and in our blog:
https://www.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/Finale2014Mac/Content/Finale/Keyles
I'm coming to this late..
So Finale 2014 doesn't work with quicklook??
That would dealbreak an upgrade..
Steve P.
On 30 Jul 2014, at 20:44, Good, Michael wrote:
Dear Dean,
I thought from previous emails that you had already heard a lot about
keyless scores and were looking for practical
Dear Michael,
Thank you for the reply. What does what you're saying mean in practical terms?
I'm glad you're acknowledging the substance but you don't really know address
anything much. For example, I'm glad you're pleased others have taken up the
slack about keyless scores, but if would be
To the forum:
If I seem upset with the response I received from Michael, it's true, I am. I
felt it was pretty much the least that could be said and essentially said
little more than I read your message. I spent time composing my initial
response and was the only one from this forum who
No problem here, Dean. Justified.
Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Dean Rosenthal deanrosent...@gmail.com wrote:
To the forum:
If I seem upset with
Hi Dean,
I see that many people have discussed the keyless score benefits. The
QuickLook and Spotlight plug-ins both had some issues in their earlier
versions that were increased by the new file format. We understand their
importance to Mac users and bringing them back in new and improved form is
Dear Michael,
Thanks for the personal introduction and discussion in your blog. I look
forward to forward and backwards capability, among other features that surely
be included as update downloads or patches for 2014 as upgrading each year is
rather expensive. One patch I am dying for is
Transposing instruments and staff styles don't use key signatures in keyless
scores.
Cheers,
- DJA
-
WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
On Jul 25, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Dean Rosenthal deanrosent...@gmail.com wrote:
I also look forward to learning how a keyless signature is any different
In case you haven't seen it, Tuesday's post on the Finale blog takes a
look back at Finale 2014 and its new file format, and a look forward to
where we see Finale moving in the future:
http://www.finalemusic.com/blog/finale-2014-looking-back-looking-forward/
This is my first post on the Finale
Hello,
My name is Joe Clark and I'm a composer/arranger from Chicago. I've been
lurking the mailing list for a while and it's been very
informative--thanks!
I just moved from a PC to a MAC and, in addition to the 2014 scrolling and
focus issues mentioned by Chuck, I'm having a surreal issue with
Hi Joe,
Yes, it has happened to me too, but it goes away. I haven't figured out
exactly what makes it happen, or what cures it. I seem to remember that I have
done things like switching tools to remedy the situation. I think that some of
the problems with 2014, like this one, are
While working finale shows a window with this: Finale has run out of
memory. Please save your work and quit - Then the program chash.
What's the problem?
Alberto Guzmán Naranjo
Profesor Titular Universidad del Valle
Director de la Escuela de Música de la FAI
This sounds like a program bug to me. If you can reproduce the problem
reliably I would send a report to Support.
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Alberto Guzmán Naranjo albe...@gmail.comwrote:
While working finale shows a window with this: Finale has run out of
memory. Please save your work
On 4/6/2014 9:20 AM, Alberto Guzmán Naranjo wrote:
While working finale shows a window with this: Finale has run out of
memory. Please save your work and quit - Then the program chash.
What's the problem?
Without knowing more about your computer and what other software you may
have running
On 4/6/2014 9:45 AM, Robert Patterson wrote:
This sounds like a program bug to me. If you can reproduce the problem
reliably I would send a report to Support.
But if it were a program bug wouldn't we all be having that same problem?
--
David H. Bailey
dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com
Well, one bug that behaves like that is turning off MIDI Thru and using
Speedy. (This is for sure a bug in Fin12, not sure about Fin14.) Once you
turn on MIDI Thru, the problem ceases. This could be that very problem or
some other problem in Fin14 quite specific to Alberto's setup.
The reason I
Hi Robert,
It continues to be a bug in Fin2014, but Make Music claim they can't reproduce
it so it's unlikely to ever be solved.
Cheers,
- DJA
-
WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
On Apr 6, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com
wrote:
Well, one bug that
Thanks, very much. My iMac is an OS X 10.9.2 - 2.9 Ghz Core i5, 8 Gb Ram
memory
So, the bug is memory needs?
Alberto Guzmán Naranjo
Profesor Titular Universidad del Valle
Director de la Escuela de Música de la FAI
2014-04-06 10:28 GMT-05:00 Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com:
Hi Robert,
No, I doubt if the amount memory on your machine matters. It is almost
certainly a bug in Finale. You need to provide more information about what
you are doing when it crashes.
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Alberto Guzmán Naranjo
albe...@gmail.comwrote:
Thanks, very much. My iMac is an OS
Thanks again - I am writing a Violin Concerto, and when I try tu use de
speedy entry the program crashes
Alberto Guzmán Naranjo
Profesor Titular Universidad del Valle
Director de la Escuela de Música de la FAI
2014-04-06 11:46 GMT-05:00 Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com:
No, I
You probably need to turn on Midi Thru. This is a known bug. You can turn
select a channel that you are not using for input, assuming you don't
actually require MIDI Thru.
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Alberto Guzmán Naranjo
albe...@gmail.comwrote:
Thanks again - I am writing a Violin
I have 2011, 2012 and 2014a Finale versions installed on Win7.
I have no problems playing files with 2011 and 2012, while I get pops
and interruptions of playing
in 2014.
I tried playing both with default MIDI sounds and with Finale default
synthfont, with disabled and enabled Human Playback.
Hey Terry,
Terry Cano here a friend of your brothers from CA. We meet years ago. I trust
you are doing well.
Musically
Terry
On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 4:08 PM, TERRY VOSBEIN vosbe...@wlu.edu wrote:
I wrote to FINALE:
I am enjoying the 2014 update quite a bit. However there is one bug
I wrote to FINALE:
I am enjoying the 2014 update quite a bit. However there is one bug that seems
to be persistent. I am using a MacBook Air Retina 13. If I have a Finale
document open and i either plug in or unplug headphones, Finale crashes within
a few seconds. The laptop sends some
I have been experiencing constant crashes since upgrading to FinMac2014.
The Makemusic tech support noticed that my computer wasn't calling on the
Mac sound driver/card correctly and suggested that I might have hardware
problem.
Since I don't have any problems with any other music program, I am
Well, if you can say to makemusic support that Logic Pro X, and several other
DAWs or Kontkat work fine, then maybe they will believe you.
I haven't had any issues with Finale 2014 the little I have used it. I really
haven't done much as I still really need TGTools to work on it before moving
I am in Finale Mac 2014 and I have been experiencing crashes too. My
hardware is fine and I don't have any other problems
Alberto Guzmán Naranjo
Alberto Guzmán Naranjo
Profesor Titular Universidad del Valle
Director de la Escuela de Música de la FAI
2013/12/12 Eric Dannewitz
Considering updating my system between Christmas and New Year's. Is anyone
currently using Finale 2014 with OS X Mavericks? Any problems? Anything I
should watch out for?
Thanks!
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Works fine.
The thing you need to watch out for is for drivers for any audio interfaces you
might have
NOT Sent from a iSubmarine
--
Eric Dannewitz
Musician/Polymath/Evil Genius
http://www.ericdannewitz.com
On Dec 11, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com wrote:
Considering updating
I got the exact same message from Tobias this morning after I emailed him
yesterday.
Alas, no timetable, but hopeful nonetheless.
J D Thomas
ThomaStudios
On Nov 5, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Eric Dannewitz ericd...@jazz-sax.com wrote:
Here is word about TGTools
Begin forwarded message:
True, but at least he's not throwing in the towel and abandoning it.
I'll happily wait until he updates it and maybe there will be a few
point releases to finale 2014 in the interm.
Sent from my iSomething
--
On Nov 5, 2013, at 9:33 AM, J D Thomas j...@thomastudios.com wrote:
I got the exact
Hello!
Since MakeMusic has now announced Finale 2014, here's my review:
http://finaletips.nu/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=96
Best regards,
Jari Williamsson
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Why does it cost more to upgrade from Finale than to crossover from
Sibelius? Doesn't seem fair to loyal Finale users. . . .
Giz
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Kudos for the improvements on Export to Audio. In the past I couldn't
complete the export at all for VST instruments in most cases. Now it
seems to be completely reliable and quite fast.
However, I would have hoped there would be an option to create separate
WAV files for each staff line, so
None that I know of, but I¹ve made note of that as a feature to add
(bounce down individually).Soloing would work, but I would suggest turning
OFF Human Playback or adjusting HP settings to ensure no time variances
between staves.
Thanks!
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Justin Phillips
Senior
It's dismaying to say the least when a big selling point of the new software is
improved Apple Mac OS X support, but I can't even run it without installing
an old version of Java (Java SE 6) that's highly unsecure and unsafe to run!
The current version of Java is Java 7 version 45, so it's
I didn't see it wanting to use Java. I do have Java installed, whatever the
latest version is on 10.9.
I did notice that the first time you run the Demo, it scans all your plugins,
but doesn't tell you that it is, so it appears it has HUNG but it hasn't. And I
had to force quit at least once
Hi Bob,
Java 6 is required for MusicXML support on Mac because Java 7 on Mac is
64-bit only. Java 6 on Mac has all the security improvements that Java 7
does; it's not the old version that Oracle has available for Windows
downloads.
Best regards,
Michael Good
MakeMusic, Inc.
Didn't Finale a long time ago KILL off the Note Mover? And now it is back?
What? Is that a step forward or backwards?
The BIG question for me is how well will TGTools work. I use that plugin DAILY,
and it seems to not work at all (the full version). Copying the Plugin into
Library-Application
I haven't been able to try it, but you might try disabling the TGTools Menu
(in Fin12) and seeing if it then shows correctly in Fin14. I feel certain
the UI changes in Fin14 have probably broken the TGTools menu.
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Eric Dannewitz ericd...@jazz-sax.comwrote:
contact the developer and tell him how much you need an update and
that you are willing to pay for it.
Didn't Finale a long time ago KILL off the Note Mover? And now it is
back? What? Is that a step forward or backwards?
The BIG question for me is how well will TGTools work. I use that
Dang. An option to disable the TGTools menus does not appear to exist.
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 12:41 PM, SN jef chippewa
shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote:
contact the developer and tell him how much you need an update and
that you are willing to pay for it.
Didn't Finale a long time
Well, how likely is that? He hasn't officially updated it to work with
anything other than Finale 2010, and still refers to Coda Music on his site
(www.tgtools.de)
I know that MakeMusic uses some of the TGTools stuff with Finale 2014, and
those seem to work. Why doesn't MakeMusic just buy out
Well, I had to copy the plugin to the new Finale 2014 folder in the Library
folder (I'm on a Mac).
It shows up, but none of the things seem to work...which is not good. I use
TGTools daily in Finale.
NOT Sent from an iPhone 12
--
On Nov 4, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Robert Patterson
Well, how likely is that?
i don't know, i didn't ask him.
He hasn't officially updated it to work with anything other than
Finale 2010, and still refers to Coda Music on his site
(www.tgtools.de)
did you ask him why? or tell him you are looking forward to an update?
I know that MakeMusic
On 2013-11-04 20:30, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
I know that MakeMusic uses some of the TGTools stuff with Finale 2014, and
those seem to work.
The TGTools lite that's included in Finale doesn't hook to the
application menu.
The Finale UI menu is now in Cocoa, which means that TGTools (full)
I've read about this with Mavericks (Java 6 SE). Is it the case for all
versions of Finale? It's about high time I traded up (2009c current) - Jari
posted a review that appears helpful, much about legacy files, among other
intrinsic details. My main concern is that my .mus files from 2009 will
It's not so much the menu disaster, it's that none of the plugins seem
to work anymore.
That is a bigger problem.
Sent from my iSomething
--
Eric Dannewitz
Musician/Polymath/Evil Genius
http://www.ericdannewitz.com
On Nov 4, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Jari Williamsson
It's not an ad. It's a European music catalogue from Germany where the
description of the new Finale appeared by accident. They were asked to take it
down and they did.
I find that MakeMusic themselves do not mention some very important fixes. For
example, when the non-transposing chord bug in
On 2013-10-16 12:21, Christopher Smith wrote:
It's not an ad. It's a European music catalogue from Germany
where the description of the new Finale appeared by accident.
In Europe, compiling pictures, prices, specials (and using words like
Deal, New etc) and ordering information in a catalog
On 16 Oct 2013, at 1:00 PM, finale-requ...@shsu.edu wrote:
layer-independent pauses - I presume that this means that Finale will now
handle slowing down and pausing without the need to place fermatas and the
like on the note in every single layer.
My assumption is that you would have an
Hi everybody,
Is this real?
http://www.sibeliusblog.com/news/finale-2014-features-leaked-in-music-retailer-catalog/
What does everybody think? It's about time accidentals between layers
was looked at, I think we've all been waiting for that for years. But is
this really all we get after 2
On 2013-10-15 17:53, Will Roberts wrote:
What does everybody think?
FWIW, when the new Finale version is announced, I'll post a full review
(with some usage tips as well) on the Finale tips site, as I've done
with the past Finale versions.
Best regards,
Jari Williamsson
As a windows guy, the re-write is probably of use to you. They probably
optimized the code base, and made it perform better. So decades of shitty code
has been flushed for stuff that runs better. Probably will make it easier going
forward for BOTH versions of Finale (Mac/PC)
Yet another file
What does everybody think? It's about time accidentals between layers
was looked at, I think we've all been waiting for that for years. But is
this really all we get after 2 years? As a Windows guy the Mac re-write
is no use to me.
I, for one, am looking forward to a streamlined tool palette,
What is meant by auto-horizontilation and layer independent pauses?
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 15, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Douglas Brown douglas.br...@wayland.wbu.edu
wrote:
What does everybody think? It's about time accidentals between layers
was looked at, I think we've all been waiting for
On 10/15/2013 4:29 PM, Ryan Beard wrote:
What is meant by auto-horizontilation and layer independent pauses?
Good question -- I think I heard the first term in regards to a woman of
the night down in New Orleans a good many years ago. ;-)
--
David H. Bailey
It's probably something that was supposed to work in an earlier finale
but didn't and they have now fixed it and rebranded it.
Like how many times have they done slurs in finale? Way too many...:
Sent from my iSomething
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On Oct 15, 2013, at 1:29 PM, Ryan Beard ry.squa...@gmail.com wrote:
auto-horizontalization - My own paraphrased term for the phrase automatic
horizontal alignment of dynamic symbols, brackets, and lines...
layer-independent pauses - I presume that this means that Finale will now
handle slowing down and pausing without the need to place fermatas and the like
on
I don't think layer-independent pauses means that in this context. In French,
pause mean rest, so I think it might mean that the height of rests will be
adjusted when necessary, instead of by a constant amount, between layers.
Christopher
On Tue Oct 15, at TuesdayOct 15 6:11 PM, Douglas Brown
That is really a miserable ad. It doesn't mention any benefits at all,
only a handful of obscure features -- not to mention spelling errors
(pallet). Generally speaking, the Finale folks do a pretty good job of
describing the benefits of the new releases at announcement time. I do
not
On 2013-04-29 12:49, David H. Bailey wrote:
But until the ownership actually changes hands
that's not a certainty, and the lawsuit seemed to promise that the
ownership change might take a very long time.
I think the sale is now completed, and MakeMusic is once again a private
company.
Best
Yes, the acquisition is complete:
http://www.nasdaq.com/article/launchequity-completes-acquisition-of-makemus
ic-inc-20130501-01735
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Justin Phillips
Senior Product Manager
M 952 € 388 € 3064 D 952 € 818 € 3819
F 952 € 818 € 3919 www.makemusic.com
On 5/2/2013 9:24 AM, Phillips, Justin wrote:
http://www.nasdaq.com/article/launchequity-completes-acquisition-of-makemus
ic-inc-20130501-01735
That is indeed good news! I'm delighted that the suggested lawsuit
either never happened or was settled amicably.
It's great to have the company out
Thanks David! We're excited.
As for the litigation, we did release an update on that as well:
http://www.makemusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Press-Release-for-MMUS-
and-Affiliates-of-LaunchEquity-Announce-Receipt-of-Special-Litigation-Commi
ttee-Report.pdf
That's great news as well -- so now MakeMusic can get back to normal
without legal distractions, and keep on producing a great product!
Thanks!
David
On 5/2/2013 3:45 PM, Phillips, Justin wrote:
Thanks David! We're excited.
As for the litigation, we did release an update on that as well:
Correct -- the 2013 version would have been released back in 2012, but
MakeMusic had already informed the world that there would be no 2013
version. There were (and still are) rumors that they were reworking the
code to update a lot of ancient code that was in the program, but only
time will
Hi all,
Here's the latest update on the sale of the company:
http://www.makemusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/MMUS_-Press-Release-for-TO-Extension_54716927-4-c1.docx
As for a new version of Finale, there will be a new version this year. We
announced a break in the yearly upgrade cycle last
If there are any of you out there holding off upgrading to MacOS 10.7 or
10.8 because of the need to run PPC apps under Rosetta, Apple will now sell
you 10.6 Snow Leopard 64-bit Server for $19.99. (You have to call (800) MY
APPLE.) You can legally set that up as a virtual in Fusion or Parallels. I
Has anyone heard any rumors about when Fin2014 might arrive and what it might
have? I sure am hoping, given the two year cycle, for bug fixes to
long-standing issues, and completion of incompletely realized things (like
parts with unlink-able hairpins, or better MIDI, especially percussion and
Hi David,
I have a friend here in Portland who is part of the Garritan organization and
therefore in the loop at MM. When pressed (gently) for an update on Finale, I
did get confirmation that it is being worked on. I remember obliquely asking
if the delay was because all the code was being
So, are there no plans for a 2013 version? That
makes me feel better at buying 2012 in the last week of 2012...
Phil.
At 03:44 PM 4/28/2013, you wrote:
Hi David,
I have a friend here in Portland who is part of
the Garritan organization and therefore in the
loop at MM. When pressed
I'll maybe go for un upgrade, then, I'm actually sticking on with Fin 2011.
Giovanni
Giovanni Andreani
www.giovanniandreani.eu
Hi David,
I have a friend here in Portland who is part of the Garritan
organization and therefore in the loop at MM. When pressed (gently) for
an update
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