Ahahahahahahah!
Beatrix Krümmer-Frau ha scritto:
Steve Jobs will be dead before Flash - don't worry.
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Right now I'm more of the opinion that rolling your eyes and moving
on is
the right thing to do.
+1
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**Did he really post that?
I am hoping you are referring to the grey hairs on Steve's head and
not a man on a mission.
O.o
Karl
On Apr 30, 2010, at 1:01 AM, Newsletters Bag wrote:
Ahahahahahahah!
Beatrix Krümmer-Frau ha scritto:
Steve Jobs will be dead before Flash - don't worry.
that's a fact :)
(not about the man on mission or the hair, but about the air Jobs
has, which isn't AIR btw)
**Did he really post that?
I am hoping you are referring to the grey hairs on Steve's head and
not a man on a mission.
O.o
Karl
On Apr 30, 2010, at 1:01 AM, Newsletters Bag
On 29/04/2010 23:45, Beatrix Krümmer-Frau wrote:
Steve Jobs will be dead before Flash - don't worry.
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html 5 has an audio api.
you can play sounds.
you can show controls like in a video. or not.
now there's an honest audio api.
no irrelevant things like being able to tell how far into the sound we are.
or responsiveness to cue points. or being able to tell when a sound ends. no
byteArray
Ouch my side hurts.
On Apr 30, 2010, at 2:46 AM, Jim Andrews wrote:
perhaps html 7 will be really good. when will that be?
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http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2010/04/quake_ii_runs_on_html5.html
http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2010/04/quake_ii_runs_on_html5.htmlseems
that html5 isn't as crappy as some people are making out.
On 30 April 2010 09:50, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote:
Ouch my side
Its not about health problems, but a metaphor - we will see who/what
lives longer!
We all are the ones who made/make Flash expanding its possibilities!
Make jokes, keep working - We think different!
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Hmmm.. good rebuttal. I am an old Quake 2 fan.
But my comment was more because my side did hurt after reading that.
I personally invite HTML 5. I remember when I was starting to learn
Flash,
I thought to myself, Why doesn't HTML already do this stuff?
So bring it on, HTML 5, 6, 7 - 200
Karl
http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2010/04/
quake_ii_runs_on_html5.html
http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2010/04/
quake_ii_runs_on_html5.htmlseems
that html5 isn't as crappy as some people are making out.
ever tried to run it on an iPhone, or best: iPad ?
:)
i see the html quake is not actually available to play in the browser.
and game sound is fairly simple programming. at least in this game.
html 5 has a very very basic audio api. it is not adequate for my purposes.
in an ideal situation we would use open tools built to open standards. what
some thoughts, point-by-point
http://www.thefieldcomic.com/2010/04/29/steve-jobs-just-blew-up-the-internet/
http://www.thefieldcomic.com/2010/04/29/steve-jobs-just-blew-up-the-internet/
a
On 30 April 2010 10:46, Jim Andrews j...@vispo.com wrote:
i see the html quake is not actually available
Well if you can run a game like Quake II inside HTML 5, then HTML 5
should handle flash without a plugin.
Karl
Sent from losPhone
On Apr 30, 2010, at 3:26 AM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com
wrote:
Hmmm.. good rebuttal. I am an old Quake 2 fan.
But my comment was more because my
Well, it's using WebGL as far as I can remember which by my knowledge not every
browser supports yet and it's even less which is basically web-version of
OpenGL. Of course, you can then make Quake 2 8)7. I mean all nicely hardware
accelerated by the GPU. Neither do I know of Internet Explorer 9
He talks about Flash being yesterday's tech, but that statement makes me
wonder if he's ever coded in Objective-C.
LOL! Okay, that got me. I'm glad someone else sees Objective-C for the mess
it is. Thanks for that.
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Havent read the full thread, but i guess this is on topic :
Adobe and Apple CEO's Square Off
Adobe CEO Shantanu Narayen sits down with Alan Murray and fires back
at Steve Jobs in latest round of flash fight.
Not to drag out this conversation, but I think Apple doing this is a good
thing in the end, probably for both companies. If you've been following the
Adobe people on twitter, you see their talk has gone from iPhone, iPhone
iPhone to Android, Android, Android (with a little iPhone hate mixed in).
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Jer Brand thejhe...@gmail.com wrote:
Okay, sorry once again, rambling done.
Jer
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My turn
**Whipes sweat from brow**
I hear you Beatrix. Time will tell.
Karl
On Apr 30, 2010, at 3:07 AM, Beatrix Krümmer-Frau wrote:
Its not about health problems, but a metaphor - we will see who/what
lives longer!
We all are the ones who made/make Flash expanding its possibilities!
Make jokes,
On 4/29/2010 10:18 AM, David Hunter wrote:
i know there has already been a lot of talk about flash and iphones/ipads and
developer agreements on this list and i don't wish to add unnecessarily or
stoke up the fire again but i thought this might be a worthwhile read for all
from the man at the
...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
[flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Pace
[anthony.p...@utoronto.ca]
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:16 PM
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
After complaining for years that developers needed access
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
After complaining for years that developers needed access to the raw
audio data from the mic, that we are just finally seeing progress in
10.1. The lack of feature support in their tools, the bugs they have
had
[edole...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:14 PM
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
I think its time to read what you wrote yourself as you've authored some
inaccuracies yourself in regards to Apple working with Adobe, the whole flavors
of C
In addition, Flash has not performed well on mobile devices. We have
routinely asked Adobe to show us Flash performing well on a mobile
device, any mobile device, for a few years now. We have never seen
it.
isn't this just utter B.S.?
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I think some of his comments about Flash not being designed for Touch
devices have a ring of truth to them, for example, I develop for a
touchscreen system and have written many custom components without
rollovers.
I can't really comment on battery life, web-video, etc. because I do all
my
Funny, Jobs makes no mention of Silverlight anywhere in that article. :)
Jason Merrill
Bank of America Global Learning
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(note: these are for Bank of America
What's Silverlight?
On 29/04/2010 15:51, Merrill, Jason wrote:
Funny, Jobs makes no mention of Silverlight anywhere in that article. :)
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I think that's a new-fangled fishing lure used for freshwater carp or
something.
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Glen Pike g...@engineeredarts.co.ukwrote:
What's Silverlight?
On 29/04/2010 15:51, Merrill, Jason wrote:
Funny, Jobs makes no mention of Silverlight anywhere in that article.
On 29/04/2010 15:51, Merrill, Jason wrote:
Funny, Jobs makes no mention of Silverlight anywhere in that article. :)
If he's talking specifically about Flash, why would he?
Jason Merrill
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If he's talking specifically about Flash, why would he?
Switched off your irony detector today?
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(note: these
I thought it was an elven character from LOTR?
On 29/04/2010 16:15, Eric E. Dolecki wrote:
I think that's a new-fangled fishing lure used for freshwater carp or
something.
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Glen Pikeg...@engineeredarts.co.ukwrote:
this basically sums up why apple don't support flash
Another Adobe claim is that Apple devices cannot play Flash games. This is
true. Fortunately, there are over 50,000 games and entertainment titles on
the App Store, and many of them are free.
in other words 'we don't want you to play flash
On 29/04/2010 16:17, Merrill, Jason wrote:
If he's talking specifically about Flash, why would he?
Switched off your irony detector today?
All detectors switched off by extreme fatigue right now.
Jason Merrill
Bank of America Global Learning
Learning Performance Solutions
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Glen Pike
Sent: April 29, 2010 10:41 am
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
I think some of his comments about Flash not being designed for Touch
devices have a ring of truth to them
I would love to see a Thoughts on Apple letter from Adobe. :)
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I would love to see a Thoughts on Apple letter from Adobe. :)
This is close enough:
http://mashable.com/2010/04/29/jon-stewart-apple/
:D
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this basically sums up why apple don't support flash
Another Adobe claim is that Apple devices cannot play Flash games. This is
true. Fortunately, there are over 50,000 games and entertainment titles on
the App Store, and many of them are free.
in other words 'we don't want you to play
Pity it's US only, would have been nice to see, but it's not from Adobe
though!
Apple have thrown down the gauntlet - it may be FUD, but it's from Steve
Jobs / Apple and that's better than any speculation from other sources.
I guess I would like to see Adobe be able to respond to this
The problem is that pretty much all of that has already been responded to a
while ago. Steve Jobs is only repeating what has already been echoing among
people who want to rationalize the fact that iP* doesn't have Flash, like
this stupid rollover/hover discussion. If Adobe is to respond to that,
He talks about Flash being yesterday's tech, but that statement makes me
wonder if he's ever coded in Objective-C.
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Zeh Fernando wrote:
Right now I'm more of the opinion that rolling your eyes and moving on is
the right thing to do.
Me too. I don't have the time to spare just now, but if I did, I'd be
writing Android apps. I see a whole lot of upside there for Flash
programmers.
Cordially,
Kerry Thompson
Right now I'm more of the opinion that rolling your eyes and moving on
is the right thing to do.
I'll third that.
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And here is the TRUE reason Apple wants to kill flash:
Apple may charge $1 million to display mobile ads: report
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63S0IE20100429
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Merrill, Jason
jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com wrote:
Right now I'm more of the opinion
On 4/29/10 2:35 PM, Merrill, Jason jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com
wrote:
Right now I'm more of the opinion that rolling your eyes and moving on
is the right thing to do.
I'll third that.
I've been preaching at our company to continue to do Flash graphics for our
news site. But those
Does HTML 5 do anything about the basically non-existant audio API in HTML?
I gather that the canvas tag was Apple's proposal. How does it compare
with the graphical abilities of Flash or Director?
Microsoft has not implemented the canvas tag. Is the canvas tag in the
W3C HTML 5 spec?
And
The best thing for Adobe to do right now is get flash player up to
STELLAR performance, even by Apples standards and then refuse to put
it on the iPhone. That would just be funny.
When flash is benchmarking html5 under the table, then adobe will have
some barganing chips if you will. I
is in everything
except IE.
From: j...@vispo.com
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:06:46 -0700
Does HTML 5 do anything about the basically non-existant audio API in HTML?
I gather that the canvas tag
Mobile and desktop performance is already above and beyond what HTML5 can
do:
http://themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2010/03/22/
http://vimeo.com/10553088
Touch events/gestures/points are supported by FP 10.1 so I'm pretty sure
we'll have a way to see whether any of those are actually
@Zeh
Thanks for the links. Good to know.
I have investied a LOT of time in flash, as have many others.
:)
Karl
On Apr 29, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Zeh Fernando wrote:
Mobile and desktop performance is already above and beyond what
HTML5 can
do:
Steve Jobs will be dead before Flash - don't worry.
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from Steve Jobs on Flash
Steve Jobs will be dead before Flash - don't worry.
*Beatrix Kruemmer-Frau*
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