On Thursday 14 February 2002 01:59 am, you wrote:
That's the same error I have on the C172 at simulator startup. FYI.
JSBsim C310 crashes the sim on gear retraction.
So ... this is an error?
This is the same message I get if I do this in real life.
;-)
Jon
Happens in the air
Some time ago a big company, which shall remain nameless, bought
3dfx. They have now opted to yank the 3dfx site, and all support for
old cards with it. (That alone is reason enough not to buy their
cards.)
Yes, I wish there was more choice in the 3d graphics world. You could
always try
Alex Perry writes:
Alex Perry writes:
* On a G400 card with lots of memory, I'm getting 4fps out-the-box.
This is down from the high 20s previous versions. It improves
to 14fps if I get rid of the Textures.high directory temporarily.
Thus, the decision making for texture
Martin Spott wrote:
Erik,
I've uploaded a pre-release version of FlightGear 0.7.9 at:
did you notice that you put the old 0.7.7 binary into that package ? 'inst'
complains about installing an older package as the one already installed,
Uck, I must have changed the version behaviour.
Hi Dave!
I've seen in your fgfs directory nice screenshots with runway lights
could you please tell us the method how to make it?
Thanx
Bye
P.S. Currently I try to incorporate loading of runway lights in
tileentry.cxx but no still success
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From: David Findlay [EMAIL
I'm having no problem retracting the C310 gear in flight, using
yesterday's CVS version of everything. It's possible that there's a
problem in some builds, but it's equally possible that people are
letting the plane settle back onto the ground after retracting gear.
Try waiting for a higher
On Thu, 2002-02-14 at 04:21, David Megginson wrote:
I'm having no problem retracting the C310 gear in flight, using
yesterday's CVS version of everything. It's possible that there's a
problem in some builds, but it's equally possible that people are
letting the plane settle back onto the
John Check [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I could bind a toggle for the brakes to the indicator.
I think it's fairly likely somebody might click on it
Yep great idea. Is the at-startup-parking-brake working? I couldn't seem
to make it work last night.
Best,
Jim
On Thu, 2002-02-14 at 02:39, Erik Hofman wrote:
Alex Perry wrote:
That's the same error I have on the C172 at simulator startup. FYI.
A crash at startup is mostly because of stale objects files hanging
around. I think you should do a make clean in src/FDM/JSBSim and
remove
On Wed, 2002-02-13 at 15:58, Jim Wilson wrote:
Tony Peden [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Wed, 2002-02-13 at 14:59, David Megginson wrote:
Interesting. I have no objection to removing the binding completely,
but it is showing up a more serious problem with JSBSim's ground
trimming (it
Just wondering if this is a necessary JSBsim feature.
Best,
Jim
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Uck, I must have changed the version behaviour. I'll make sure it will
work for the official release.
Where will you place the final version ? Will you update your FlightGear web
page http://www.a1.nl/~ehofman/fgfs/ so we can point to it ? I'd like to
update the comments on IRIX in the
On Tue 12. February 2002 22:33, you wrote:
This works fine for me. Are you running with the latest fgfs cvs?
Yes, with yesterday CVS (plib,SG,FG,fgfsbase) and rebuild after uninstall and
distclean, but I must note that I use threads.
I find that it occurs only sometimes and have diferent
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On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 08:24:14PM -0600, Curtis L. Olson wrote:
the moon is using a blend mode other than the default blend mode
so that we can blend it into the gradient sky.
Thanks, that was exactly the information I needed to get me
started.
As long as we're clearing up odds and ends, should we have COM1
default to 118.85 for KSFO ATIS in 0.7.9? That means that the sim
will start with the ATIS text scrolling across the top of the screen,
but users might not know how to get rid of it.
I dislike it, because it appears to eat
I'm only getting this with JSBsim right now. Maybe I've got something
screwed
up here anyone else seeing this? The symptom is that if I specify an
airport
that is not in scenery the simulation comes up correctly momentarily and
then
tries to load a tile and does the fatal bogus long/lat
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On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 08:24:14PM -0600, Curtis L. Olson wrote:
the moon is using a blend mode other than the default blend mode
so that we can blend it into the gradient sky.
Thanks, that was exactly the
Martin Spott wrote:
Uck, I must have changed the version behaviour. I'll make sure it will
work for the official release.
Where will you place the final version ? Will you update your FlightGear web
page http://www.a1.nl/~ehofman/fgfs/ so we can point to it ? I'd like to
update the
David Megginson writes:
I'm having no problem retracting the C310 gear in flight, using
yesterday's CVS version of everything. It's possible that there's a
problem in some builds, but it's equally possible that people are
letting the plane settle back onto the ground after retracting gear.
--- Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David Megginson writes:
I'm having no problem retracting the C310 gear in
flight, using
yesterday's CVS version of everything. It's
possible that there's a
problem in some builds, but it's equally possible
that people are
letting the
Jim Wilson writes:
Yep great idea. Is the at-startup-parking-brake working? I couldn't seem
to make it work last night.
No, there's some kind of a bug (it might just be that JSBSim is
overriding the initial setting), and I'll have to investigate.
All the best,
David
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David
Martin Spott writes:
I dislike it, because it appears to eat about 10 fps Also as long as
there's no knob, easy to find to stop ATIS display, I would not vote for
setting it a default.
OK, that's the first objection. Any other comments?
All the best,
David
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Erik Hofman writes:
I'm having no problem retracting the C310 gear in flight, using
yesterday's CVS version of everything. It's possible that there's a
problem in some builds, but it's equally possible that people are
letting the plane settle back onto the ground after retracting gear.
Curtis L. Olson writes:
I'd prefer the scrolling text to be off be default. Again for the
sake of realism, you don't have scrolling text across your windshield
in a real plane. I know this is a compromise because we are in a
simulated environment, and it's a nice feature, but I think I
Michael and Martin have sent me an updated version of the Installation
and Getting Started Guide:
http://www.flightgear.org/Docs/
Please take a moment to read through it if you can and send Michael or
Martin and suggestions or fixes. Only little stuff can be fixed for
0.7.9 but larger
Curtis L. Olson writes:
I'd prefer the scrolling text to be off be default. Again for the
sake of realism, you don't have scrolling text across your windshield
in a real plane. I know this is a compromise because we are in a
simulated environment, and it's a nice feature, but I think I
Curtis L. Olson writes:
Michael and Martin have sent me an updated version of the Installation
and Getting Started Guide:
http://www.flightgear.org/Docs/
Please take a moment to read through it if you can and send Michael or
Martin and suggestions or fixes. Only little stuff
Regarding this paragraph,
Recently, Andrew Ross contributed another flight model called YASim
for Yet another simulator. At present, it sports another Cessna 172,
a Cessna 182 and a Boeing 747. This one is based on geometry
information rather than aerodynamic coefficients. Although it is
Alex Perry writes:
Alex Perry writes:
* On a G400 card with lots of memory, I'm getting 4fps out-the-box.
This is down from the high 20s previous versions. It improves
to 14fps if I get rid of the Textures.high directory temporarily.
Thus, the decision making for
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curtis L. Olson) [2002.02.14 09:58]:
Michael and Martin have sent me an updated version of the Installation
and Getting Started Guide:
http://www.flightgear.org/Docs/
Please take a moment to read through it if you can and send Michael or
Martin and suggestions or
Michael and Martin have sent me an updated version of the Installation
and Getting Started Guide:
http://www.flightgear.org/Docs/
Thanks for the kind announcement. The 'European' website mirror - I believe
it's the only one around here :-) - is up to date. You might want to read
it
The current CVS hangs for me when ground started at KMYF, yet is fine at KSFO.
Immediate crash. It's a long way to commute, could we fix that sometime?
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* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curtis L. Olson) [2002.02.14 09:58]:
The manual is really quite extensive and impressive and represents a
very large amount of work. It is definitely worth reading through. I
learned several new things myself. :-)
First, Michael and Martin have done a fabulous job.
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curt Olson) [2002.02.13 15:44]:
BERNDT, JON S. (JON) (JSC-EX) (LM) writes:
OK. What does Ctrl-U do??
This was a *hack* that incremented altitude by 1000'. It was easy to
do in LaRCsim. However, it's ugly, not realistic, and I'd rather have
a more sensible and
The HTML versions on the website are trying to load non-existent CSS
files (getstart.css FGShortRef.css). NS4 won't even show the page
without the CSS files in place. :-/
Hmmm, I can't confirm this - just had a test with Netscape-4.78 on Linux,
with and without enabling style sheets in the
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Spott) [2002.02.14 11:55]:
The HTML versions on the website are trying to load non-existent CSS
files (getstart.css FGShortRef.css). NS4 won't even show the page
without the CSS files in place. :-/
Hmmm, I can't confirm this - just had a test with
Alex Perry writes:
The current CVS hangs for me when ground started at KMYF, yet is fine at KSFO.
Immediate crash. It's a long way to commute, could we fix that sometime?
Hmmm, I can verify this same problem here too. With fgfs
--airport-id=KMYF :
- Flightgear starts up.
- The JSBSim
So it appears that at least for KMYF, JSBSim and FlightGear are having
a very strong disagreement over the elevation of the ground, and
neither is willing to budge. Sounds like two typical flightgear
developers. :-)
Yep :-) This is _very_ similar to what I've been experiencing with 0.7.8
Ok, there is something really strange here, probably because things
were changed without a proper understanding of how everything worked
together. My mind is fryed at the moment looking at this stuff.
JSBSim seems to be doing the right thing *except* for at KMYF.
Whatever it was I said to
Alex Perry wrote:
Think of it this way: a YASim aircraft will be as close to the real
airplane as the real one is to any other aircraft of the same general
class. That's good enough for me. And in a lot of situations
(military aircraft in particular), this is as good as we're going to
get
Alex Perry wrote:
Think of it this way: a YASim aircraft will be as close to the real
airplane as the real one is to any other aircraft of the same general
class. That's good enough for me. And in a lot of situations
(military aircraft in particular), this is as good as we're going to
get
Curtis L. Olson wrote:
Ok, looking further, it appears that nothing, no place, no where is
setting the runway elevation any more ... it get's initialized at
startup, but then never is updated as the aircraft moves.
Ah, which explains why I've never seen this. I only ever bother
testing in
David Megginson writes:
Hmmm, If I start at KSAN and taxi to KMYF, JSBSim seems happy with
the ground elevation and everything jives with where FGFS thinks the
ground is. The problem seems to be somehow at startup/init time.
Very strange and confusing ... I don't see any
Tony Peden wrote:
Well, I wasn't saying this was the cuase of the
problem, just *a*
solution. I figured there might be a counter
somwhere which decreses
GearPos by a certain amount, but the check didn't
catch it being close
to 0.0
Therefore it would en up in an endless loop or
something.
Cameron Moore wrote:
- p29: I believe binaries are also shipped with SuSE Linux, though I
don't think you need to discuss how to install them.
Yes they are. At least since 7.0 but I think it was ever earlier than
that.
CU,
Christian
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There are two pictures of the OpenGC glass cockpit project running
with FlightGear at the FlightGear gallery page now:
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Ha! Actually, when we get around to it, we do want to be
plausible off-nominal, too.
Jon
Jon, I read that sentence, digested it and promptly started snickering
insanely. What a quote. I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!
*rofl*
??
Maybe I've been around NASA types too
Erik Hofman writes:
Its' weel above 100 Foot.
I tried different altitudes, non worked well.
Have you tried different airports? It's strange that we cannot
reproduce this. Does the problem occur as soon as the gear are
retracted?
All the best,
David
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Andy,
Oh, and a pedantic comment about the text: the use of the latin e.g.
in the middle of English sentences is frowned upon as a matter of
style. In almost all cases, the colloquial for example will work
...
Thanks a lot. I'll print and keep this for future reference.
BTW, we sure
On Thursday 14 February 2002 03:38 pm, you wrote:
Cameron Moore wrote:
- p29: I believe binaries are also shipped with SuSE Linux, though I
don't think you need to discuss how to install them.
Yes they are. At least since 7.0 but I think it was ever earlier than
that.
CU,
Christian
Maybe I've been around NASA types too long. ;-) What I meant was that we'd
like to have at least *believable* flight dynamics when flying in
off-nominal conditions (spin, hammerhead, etc.)
But I am glad I made you laugh. :-)
You just keep on hanging out with those NASA guys. :) BTW, if
On Thursday 14 February 2002 04:11 pm, you wrote:
There are two pictures of the OpenGC glass cockpit project running
with FlightGear at the FlightGear gallery page now:
http://www.flightgear.org/Gallery/
Curt.
Now *thats* cool
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On Thursday 14 February 2002 04:11 pm, John Check wrote:
There are two pictures of the OpenGC glass cockpit project running
with FlightGear at the FlightGear gallery page now:
http://www.flightgear.org/Gallery/
Curt.
Now *thats* cool
Yes, it is.
According to the picture, it
Yes, it is.
According to the picture, it IS possible to have FG + OpenGC running on
the
same machine (obviously at least one person had it :-). I always was under
the impression this requires 2 networked machines.
Perhaps someone could put together a simple readme for getting this
On Thu, 2002-02-14 at 09:09, Alex Perry wrote:
The current CVS hangs for me when ground started at KMYF, yet is fine at KSFO.
Immediate crash. It's a long way to commute, could we fix that sometime?
It looks to me like there are at least a couple of problems.
1) the altitude is initially set
Jonathan Polley writes:
I tried halving the fog values and got something that looked more
realistic, for the long distance visibilities at least. Would it be
possible to change the fog equations along with the visibility? This
would be for post-0.8.0.
You can choose between linear, exp,
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