Re: Tree class

2001-07-09 Thread Peter B. West
. Can someone point me in the right direction? Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://powerup.com.au/~pbwest Lord, to whom shall we go? //package org.apache.fop.datatypes; import java.util.*; /** * Tree.java * * $Id: Tree.java,v 1.7 2001-07-10 14:08:30+10 pbw Exp pbw $ * @author

Re: Tree class

2001-07-13 Thread Peter B. West
Arved, Thanks for the feedback, and thanks for giving me some directions. I'll try to chase some of them down in the next week of so. Peter Arved Sandstrom wrote: On Tuesday 10 July 2001 04:27, Peter B. West wrote: I have attempted to make Tree class operations thread-safe, and have

Re: cvs update failure

2001-07-13 Thread Peter B. West
Working now. Peter B. West wrote: My attempt to cvs update failed with the following message: cannot create_adm_p /tmp/cvs-serv87572/src/org/apache/fop/render/mif/fonts No space left on device I will try again in case this was a temporary /tmp glitch Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL

Re: Code Style, was Re: PDF serialization

2001-07-16 Thread Peter B. West
page (1 column is sacrificed to (X)Emacs.) I appreciate that this is kind of old fashioned, but more often than not, I work with multiple 80 column windows rather than a full-screen editor. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://powerup.com.au/~pbwest Lord, to whom shall we go

Re: Can't build fop: Hangs after Starting Ant...

2001-07-22 Thread Peter B. West
, Peter B. West wrote: Gregor, I don't know ant all that well, but here is what happens when I do it: /tmp 9:35$ ant Buildfile: build.xml testCRLF: BUILD SUCCESSFUL Total time: 1 second /tmp 9:35$ I don't know whether there are properties you can have set which suppress

Re: Anticipated Work In Near Future

2001-07-24 Thread Peter B. West
useful. I am continuing to look in the places you pointed me to, but I progress very deliberately. If you see any particular uses for Tree, please apply it as you see fit. In the meantime, I will post questions as they arise. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://powerup.com.au

Re: Inheritance for fo:marker

2001-07-28 Thread Peter B. West
Arved Sandstrom wrote: At 01:46 AM 7/28/01 +1000, Peter B. West wrote: Arved Karen, On the surface of it, this re-parenting issue looks like a tree operation. The point of definition of the marker remains in its context at the point of definition. When a retrieve-marker is found

Re: Tree class

2001-07-30 Thread Peter B. West
, unless you want to sacrifice parent links, which rather defeats the purpose. I will be looking at the setup of the FO and Area trees to see how much is involved in levering Tree in there. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://powerup.com.au/~pbwest Lord, to whom shall we go

XEmacs fix

2001-07-30 Thread Peter B. West
to syntax.c that fixes the problem. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://powerup.com.au/~pbwest Lord, to whom shall we go? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Codeformatting finished

2001-07-31 Thread Peter B. West
? Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://powerup.com.au/~pbwest Lord, to whom shall we go? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tree class: advice please.

2001-08-07 Thread Peter B. West
throught the contents object, which would require a reference to its enclosing Node. The object and its wrapper Node would have to be created in two operations at the time of creation of the object. As I write this, the former option sounds better. Any comments? Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL

Building the FO tree

2001-08-18 Thread Peter B. West
can make out, Java is a procedural language. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://powerup.com.au/~pbwest Lord, to whom shall we go? /** * XMLEventSource.java * * * Created: Sat Aug 11 17:18:55 2001 * * @author * @version $Id: XMLEventSource.java,v 1.4 2001-08-19 04:48:58+10

Any work around?

2001-08-22 Thread Peter B. West
. Anyway, if any of you are aware of any possibilities for telecommuting I would greatly appreciate being made aware of them. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://powerup.com.au/~pbwest Lord, to whom shall we go

Configuration file

2001-09-03 Thread Peter B. West
I'm trying to build a skeleton system with the minimum of components. What is such a minimum for processing the configuration file? I am being told can't find default configuration file. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://powerup.com.au/~pbwest Lord, to whom shall we go

Re: Configuration file

2001-09-03 Thread Peter B. West
this error. Peter Peter B. West wrote: I'm trying to build a skeleton system with the minimum of components. What is such a minimum for processing the configuration file? I am being told can't find default configuration file. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://powerup.com.au

Re: Layout Redesign

2001-09-05 Thread Peter B. West
started to look at property values like thin, thick, smaller, etc. I'm looking forward to continuing the discussion here. -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://powerup.com.au/~pbwest Lord, to whom shall we go

More on properties

2001-09-17 Thread Peter B. West
? Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://powerup.com.au/~pbwest Lord, to whom shall we go? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Compound datatypes

2001-09-21 Thread Peter B. West
in respect of other compound datatypes. Yours faithfully, Peter West -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://powerup.com.au/~pbwest Lord, to whom shall we go? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands

Re: Performance and java 1.1

2001-09-21 Thread Peter B. West
design, there are going to be threads, so all shared access structures will need to be synchronized. It would be interesting to see how much of the improvement disappears when the HashMap accesses are synchronized. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://powerup.com.au/~pbwest Lord

Re: Experiments with properties

2001-09-30 Thread Peter B. West
or Constructor.newInstance methods provide direct ways of generating instances of the classes. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://powerup.com.au/~pbwest Lord, to whom shall we go? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: Questions about space compound type

2001-10-05 Thread Peter B. West
Paul Grosso wrote: Peter, Again, thanks for your input. Comments embedded. At 00:53 2001 09 27 -0400, Peter B. West wrote: The following sections contain references to start-space and end-space. I assume that these references should be to space-start and space-end. 5.5.1 Word

[Fwd: Re: Compound datatypes: length-range]

2001-10-05 Thread Peter B. West
Original Message Subject: Re: Compound datatypes: length-range Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 09:17:54 -0500 From: Paul Grosso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED], xsl-editors [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 12:21 2001 09 28 -0400, Peter B. West wrote: In 5.11 Property

[Fwd: Re: Questions about space compound type]

2001-10-05 Thread Peter B. West
Original Message Subject: Re: Questions about space compound type Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 09:16:43 -0500 From: Paul Grosso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED], xsl-editors [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter, Again, thanks for your input. Comments embedded. At 00:53

[Fwd: Re: Compound datatypes]

2001-10-05 Thread Peter B. West
Dear List, I have some responses from Paul Grosso to questions about compound properties. Peter Original Message Subject: Re: Compound datatypes Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 09:02:38 -0400 From: Paul Grosso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED], xsl-editors [EMAIL

Changes to FOPropertyConsts and FObjects

2001-10-31 Thread Peter B. West
to carry this information, but the problem of deriving the set of applicable properties for a given FO persuaded me to the HashSets. These are, as before, available at http://home.iprimus.com.au/pbwest Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://powerup.com.au/~pbwest Lord, to whom shall we go

Re: Crossposts

2001-11-01 Thread Peter B. West
to assist with high-level design, if that strikes your fancy. Regards, Arved -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://powerup.com.au/~pbwest Lord, to whom shall we go? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Question about colour

2001-11-18 Thread Peter B. West
array? What is the relationship between the the linear RGB space and sRGB, which, from my glance at the document, seems to involve a color profile, and between the sRGB and the ICC color profiles? All information will be gratefully received. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

uri parser?

2001-11-20 Thread Peter B. West
Does anyone know of a general URI parser tucked away in the code somewhere, or failing that, available elsewhere? Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://powerup.com.au/~pbwest Lord, to whom shall we go

Re: uri parser?

2001-11-20 Thread Peter B. West
for a URI-SPECIFICATION in PropertyParser, and wondered whether it was easy to find a parser. Peter Ulrich Mayring wrote: Peter B. West wrote: Does anyone know of a general URI parser tucked away in the code somewhere, or failing that, available elsewhere? How about java.net.URL? Ulrich

Re: convert line height value from pixel to pt

2001-11-22 Thread Peter B. West
, anyone know how to calculate? Thank you. lpkhoo. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://powerup.com.au/~pbwest Lord

5.11 country and language

2001-11-23 Thread Peter B. West
, defines both 2- and 3-letter country codes. Is the spec correct here? Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://powerup.com.au/~pbwest Lord, to whom shall we go? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: uri parser?

2001-11-23 Thread Peter B. West
Keiron, Thanks. I was looking at the handling of 'url(...)' in the property expression parser, and I thought that the general solution would be a uri parser. Peter Keiron Liddle wrote: On 2001.11.20 16:23 Peter B. West wrote: Does anyone know of a general URI parser tucked away

Re: Build failure

2001-09-28 Thread Peter B. West
?) Unfortunately it cannot be changed to compile on both as the VolatileImage class is 1.4 only. On Thu, 27 Sep 2001 16:23:04 Peter B. West wrote: -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://powerup.com.au/~pbwest Lord, to whom shall we go

Re: 5.11 country and language

2001-11-24 Thread Peter B. West
subsequent discussions of the topic on fop-dev into the xsl-editors list. I see that this has happened. Sorry Max. Peter Christopher R. Maden wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 05:37 23-11-2001, Peter B. West wrote: In 5.11 the spec. has: country A string

Coountries and languages

2001-11-25 Thread Peter B. West
HashMaps in Configuration. The codes can then be adjusted independently of builds. All in my experimental files, of course. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://powerup.com.au/~pbwest Lord, to whom shall we go

Re: Merging jfor into FOP - what's the plan?

2001-11-27 Thread Peter B. West
and these structure renderers have in common. - Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://powerup.com.au/~pbwest Lord, to whom

[Fwd: string]

2001-11-28 Thread Peter B. West
, e.g., content-type=namespace-prefix:svg. If the namespace prefix is null, the content-type refers to the default namespace.' The examples given are unquoted and yet are not NCNames. Your clarifications on these matters will be most welcome. Peter West -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Stash

2001-10-06 Thread Peter B. West
Listners, If there is any interest in the work I am doing, would it be possible to set up a stash somewhere for my files? At the moment I am saving things on my ISP's web server. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://powerup.com.au/~pbwest Lord, to whom shall we go

Optional + on integer and number

2001-11-30 Thread Peter B. West
'+' or '-' character followed by a sequence of digits followed by an optional '.' character and sequence of digits. A property may define additional constraints on the value. Endquote Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://powerup.com.au/~pbwest Lord, to whom shall we

Numeric properties

2001-12-06 Thread Peter B. West
I found it very difficult to develop a coherent way of representing numeric property values when I was looking at the property values expression evaluator. My initial approach had a structure that looked something like: PropertyValue |

Re: Numeric properties

2001-12-06 Thread Peter B. West
Christopher, Many thanks. It's glaringly obvious, isn't it? Oh well. Peter Christopher R. Maden wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 06:25 6-12-2001, Peter B. West wrote: I don't know how kosher this is, and would appreciate any comments. I am also puzzled

Re: Numeric properties

2001-12-06 Thread Peter B. West
Joerg, I must remember to trim. I must remember to trim. I must... Peter Peter B. West wrote: Christopher, Many thanks. It's glaringly obvious, isn't it? Oh well. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Properties documentation

2001-12-28 Thread Peter B. West
Dear list, After sepnding some days wrestling with various graphics tools in linux in an attempt to make html that looked like the standard apache documentation, I finally surrendered and made do with CSS to create a facsimile that should be sufficient for this list. It works with a recent

Re: Properties documentation

2001-12-30 Thread Peter B. West
on a particular browser are still unpredictable. Peter Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Saturday 29 December 2001 02:57, Peter B. West wrote: . . .let me know if there is some easy way to get full conformance with the Apache XML norm, or if there are severe problems viewing these pages with modern browsers

xml-docs

2002-01-03 Thread Peter B. West
Keiron, I went to cvs looking for examples of how to write the xml for multi-level menus like the new design menus, but could not see where it was happening. I found this - external href=design/index.html label=NEW DESIGN / - in fop.xml, but not the source. Where is it? Peter

Re: xml-docs

2002-01-04 Thread Peter B. West
Keiron, Without having resoved the generation of books, I have converted my html to xml, and run it against a cut-down fop.xml in one of the earlier builds. The results are at http://home.iprimus.com.au/pbwest/xml-fop/docs/html-docs/alt.properties.html. The xml files are in the parallel

Documentation on SAX parsing and modularisation

2002-01-13 Thread Peter B. West
Dear list, I have added some documentation on the approach I have taken to the related topics of SAX parsing of the input source and modularisation of the FOP processing. http://home.iprimus.com.au/pbwest/xml-fop/docs/html-docs/xml-parsing.html I also generated javadocs for the experimental

Re: Documentation on SAX parsing and modularisation

2002-01-14 Thread Peter B. West
Listners, I have added some details of the XMLEvent buffer access methods to the above documentation. http://home.iprimus.com.au/pbwest/xml-fop/docs/html-docs/xml-parsing.html#XMLEvent-methods Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] FOP 0.20.3 Release Candidate available

2002-01-23 Thread Peter B. West
Arved, Keiron mentioned the possibility of including my recent html design notes in the distribution. Is that feasible for this release? Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email:

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] FOP 0.20.3 Release Candidate available

2002-01-24 Thread Peter B. West
Arved, Ok. I'll just have to find out how to integrate my docs, which are at the top level, into the existing top-level elements. Keiron said soemthing about creating a book. If anyone has done this, and has a short recipe, I would be grateful. Otherwise I'll sort it oout and get back to

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] FOP 0.20.3 Release Candidate available

2002-01-24 Thread Peter B. West
../dtd/document-v10.dtd to allow me acces to the dtd for editing. Is there a way to specify the dtd in the production files? Peter Peter B. West wrote: Arved, Ok. I'll just have to find out how to integrate my docs, which are at the top level, into the existing top-level elements. Keiron

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] FOP 0.20.3 Release Candidate available

2002-01-25 Thread Peter B. West
cable. Arved -Original Message- From: Peter B. West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: January 24, 2002 12:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] FOP 0.20.3 Release Candidate available Arved, Keiron mentioned the possibility of including my recent html design notes

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] FOP 0.20.3 Release Candidate available

2002-01-30 Thread Peter B. West
Arved Sandstrom wrote: Hi, Peter I've included an attachment which is a tree listing of what I obtained with wget. Please review and let me know what I missed. Thanks. Arved, All of the html-docs stuff is redundant as far as the docs build is concerned - it will all be generated. It was

Re: Seeking Comments on Status of Project

2002-02-05 Thread Peter B. West
Keiron, Welcome back. Been on holidays? Looking at the number of people who have expressed an interest in being of some help, I thought it might be of some use for you or Karen, or both, to run a school. I appreciate that many of the thorny problems with fop require the redesign, but if

Web site maintenance

2002-02-05 Thread Peter B. West
Keiron, Was it you who reorganised the xml-docs/html-docs framework on the development branch? If so, do you see any problems in retro-fittting that structure to the maintenance branch? Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: Seeking Comments on Status of Project

2002-02-06 Thread Peter B. West
Matthew, Yes, we're all entitled to a little ranting now and then. So I'll rant a little, and end with a few practical suggestions. As to who's in charge: Arved is the man, but Arved has recently started a new job, so you can imagine what his current situation is. Nonetheless, he is

Documentation volunteer?

2002-02-07 Thread Peter B. West
Do we have a volunteer to track Keiron's tutorials and turn them into web page documentation? Keiron has recently extended the documentation generation on the CVS trunk to make this process a bit easier. Keiron tells me that Apache is readying a major overhaul of its web site and xml-html

Re: Seeking Comments on Status of Project

2002-02-07 Thread Peter B. West
Matthew L. Avizinis wrote: Well, now that I consider it more, I have to say that I guess I am just used to a corporate way of developing software that has a definite administrative structure and plan of action with people assigned specific tasks. Since I've never worked on an Open Source

Re: StructureEvents concept

2002-02-08 Thread Peter B. West
Bernard, What sort of structure does rtf exhibit? Is it a page-based structure, or is it divided, like xslfo, into page definitions and flows? This is a critical difference as far as the design goes. From what you say below, it seems to rely on a flow-based model. Peter Keiron Liddle

Re: Multiple fonts

2002-02-08 Thread Peter B. West
This was in the final PR, at least, and it is a piece of syntactical nastiness which comes to us from CSS. Not only is the font-family value a comma-separated list of indeterminate length, but individual names may include spaces, and such names need not be quoted. Syntax like this makes

[Fwd: Inheritance from the layout-master-set]

2002-02-12 Thread Peter B. West
Original Message Subject: Inheritance from the layout-master-set Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:10:52 +1000 From: Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xsl-editors [EMAIL PROTECTED] The editors, Could you please clarify for me the role of properties defined on elements

Re: [Understanding] FO Tree [3]

2002-02-15 Thread Peter B. West
Keiron, Some questions below. Keiron Liddle wrote: FO Tree --- The FO Tree is a representation of the XSL:FO document. This represents the steps Objectify from the spec. The Refinement step is part of reading and using the properties which may happen immediately or during the

Integrating Tree into FO tree handling

2002-02-17 Thread Peter B. West
For those of you who were here when my Tree class was discussed, here is the latest on the integration of that datastructure into the expression of the FO Tree. The initial structure is a Tree class with a member class Node. (Node itself has a number of Iterator member classes.) Class

Re: REDESIGN: where I have been hiding

2002-02-17 Thread Peter B. West
Karen, It's good to hear from you. In answer to your question, Yes please, personally speaking. I would like to hear, inter alia, about the timing of property resolution. Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm happy to see that we seem to be getting some new blood in the group and I applaud

[Fwd: Re: Integrating Tree into FO tree handling]

2002-02-18 Thread Peter B. West
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Sunday 17 February 2002 06:07, Peter B. West wrote: . . . FOTree maintains the property stacks with the initial value, current value and history of the properties being defined on elements of the FO Tree. It also implements Runnable, and its run() method

Re: FOP AWT Window Shuts Down Application

2002-02-20 Thread Peter B. West
Christian Geisert wrote: Ok, I'll do it .. but it's to late for 0.20.3rc2 (which is already on icarus, waiting for Arved to move it to daedalus) Oops! I hope icarus is not on Solaris. It will go down any time now. Peter

Design issues: co-routines

2002-02-22 Thread Peter B. West
SYSTEM ../../xml-docs/dtd/document-v10.dtd -- document header titleImplementing co-routines/title authors person name=Peter B. West email=[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ /authors /header body !-- one of (anchor s1) -- s1 title=Implementing Co-routines in FOP p All general

Re: REDESIGN: where I have been hiding

2002-02-22 Thread Peter B. West
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The other thing I've worked on is in the actual LayoutManager logic. I've got this concept of a BreakPosition and have some code written at the inline level (text, inline, line). The idea is that instead of an LM calling generateAreas on its child LM, it repeatedly calls

Re: [Understanding] FO Tree [3]

2002-02-23 Thread Peter B. West
Keiron Liddle wrote: ... By using element mappings it is possible to read other XML and either - set information on the area tree - create pseudo FO Objects that create areas in the area tree - create FO Objects ** Mapping elements to classes? I'm not sure what the question is.

Some notes on footnotes

2002-02-25 Thread Peter B. West
titleImplementing footnotes/title authors person name=Peter B. West email=[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ /authors /header body !-- one of (anchor s1) -- s1 title=Implementing footnotes in FOP p Footnotes present difficulties for page layout primarily because their point of invocation

[Fwd: Re: Options]

2002-02-27 Thread Peter B. West
As Cyril pointed out, this went to the wrong list. Peter Jeremias, Pardon my ignorance, but could you sketch out the nature of the problem for me? I ask in particular because the current situation is dirty. There is a lot of talk going on about the plumbing, which is generally over my

Re: Options

2002-02-27 Thread Peter B. West
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Hmm, why not? What would your default entry in the system config be (or better: where does it look for the userconfig by default)? Jeremias, In config.xml: entry keyuserConfigFileName/key valueuserconfig.xml/value /entry entry

Re: XMLSpy - FOP

2002-02-27 Thread Peter B. West
Arved et al, To clarify further: there are three re-design efforts going on. Keiron Karen in Java, building on the existing code base. Arved doing a ground-up redesign in Perl (protptyping) and C or C++, as he has discussed. Me, in Java, doing a ground-up. Do not despair. If Flannery

Re: Options

2002-02-28 Thread Peter B. West
Jeremias, Jeremias Maerki wrote: Peter (comments inline) In config.xml: entry keyuserConfigFileName/key valueuserconfig.xml/value /entry Ok, that means FOP looks in the current directory for userconfig.xml. I can agree with that. I guess there are pros and cons: This mechanism

Re: Options

2002-02-28 Thread Peter B. West
Jeremias, Jeremias Maerki wrote: Hi Peter ... You'll have to create a GUI or use OS X. :-) Well, that leads me to the question: What are you actually trying to do? We're talking about solutions here, but not what you need them for (I think). There's a very useful discussion going on about

Re: [Xslfo-proc-devel] Core function questions

2002-03-03 Thread Peter B. West
Arved, As I read the spec, the diference is that [i]t is an error if this property is not an inherited property, for inherited-property-value(). For from-parent(), it is the value of that property on the parent, regardless of inheritance. This is consistent with the handling of shorthands.

Understanding FOP documentation

2002-03-05 Thread Peter B. West
Cyril Rognon has been tracking Keiron's notes on Understanding FOP, and keeping me up to date with them. I am about to send him some minor corrections. However, neither Cyril nor I have access to the CVS for update. Keiron is busy with other things, so I would to be able to direct Cyril's

Re: Understanding FOP documentation

2002-03-05 Thread Peter B. West
send addtions to, and edits of, his stuff and my notes directly to you? Peter Arved Sandstrom wrote: I can do this. Just let me know what branch it's for and any extra processing involved. AHS -Original Message- From: Peter B. West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: March 5, 2002 6:41 PM

[Fwd: text-shadow and text-decoration]

2002-03-07 Thread Peter B. West
The editors, 7.16.5 text-shadow has offsets defined in terms of horizontal distance to the right and vertical distance below the text. The section also specifies: Inherited: no, see prose There is no mention of inheritance in the prose of section 7.16.5. 7.16.4 text-decoration, likewise,

Re: userconfig.xml

2002-03-07 Thread Peter B. West
Polly, You are not the first, nor will you be the last, to be thrown by this. All of the work of the Options object is done in the constructor. You don't have to do anything more with it. It sets up a lot of static data, accessible by static methods, in a Configuration class. Have a look

Serialization

2002-03-12 Thread Peter B. West
Dear Fops, I'm naïve about serialization (among other things.) Can anyone tell me whether it is possible to serialize an instance of an inner class without implicitly serializing the containing class instance? Peter - To

from-nearest-specified-value on compounds

2002-03-13 Thread Peter B. West
Fops and others, What's the opinion on whether an assignment to a compound qualifies for from-nearest-specified-value() on one of the components? My attitude would be that it does qualify because of the implicit assignment to the component. Peter

Re: [PROPOSAL] FOP+iText = FOP-NG -next generation- (was: mergingtwo libraries)

2002-03-13 Thread Peter B. West
Nicola, I think there are a few issues to be considered here. Essentially, what is FOP? There may be a number of requirements of an XSL-FO processor. The basic one is, Show me this on a page or screen. Any kind of renderer, using any approach whatsoever, will achieve this, more or less.

Re: development status

2002-03-14 Thread Peter B. West
Nicola, Comments interspersed. Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: From: Keiron Liddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] There was a notice of this a number of months ago. Admittedly we have it the other way around. Maintenance releases are made from a branch. So the main branch is where the active development is

Re: [PROPOSAL] FOP+iText = FOP-NG -next generation-

2002-03-14 Thread Peter B. West
Keiron Liddle wrote: On 2002.03.14 09:00 Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: What I would like to see, is that FOP stops discussing about the logging, resolving, pipelineing and stuff and starts to focus on the core functionality. IMHO, the best way to get this thing going *quick* is to use Cocoon

Re: [PROPOSAL] FOP+iText = FOP-NG -next generation-

2002-03-14 Thread Peter B. West
Bertrand, Aside from my low opinion of SAX for process coupling, there should be no need for communication back from the renderer. The Area Tree should just give orders to the renderer. All of the layout decisions have been made by the time the Area Tree is constructed. The feedback is

Re: development status

2002-03-15 Thread Peter B. West
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: From: Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is very active development on FO Tree building, property resolution and layout models. A lot of that development is desisn speculation, such as the design notes I have been posting, and there is also a fair bit of code, all

Area tree - renderer

2002-03-16 Thread Peter B. West
My comments earlier about the area tree and page description languages have started me thinking about the topic. The way I see it, there's no daylight between the area tree and the renderer(s). I was talking about the output from the area tree being a PDL, but Postscript and PDF are page

Updates to xml docs

2002-03-17 Thread Peter B. West
Arved, After Karen's post on her updates I checked the repository, and I note that you have installed the alt.design and understanding directories. Many thanks to you and to Cyril. Attached are cvs diff -u output files for xml-fop/build.xml and xml-fop/docs/design/book.xml whcih will bring

Re: Area tree - renderer (pr.fo for structure renderers)

2002-03-18 Thread Peter B. West
Bertrand, See below... Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Saturday 16 March 2002 14:52, Peter B. West wrote: . . . The last stage of the FOP process translates one page description (the area tree) into another (the input to the target renderer.) ok So why would anyone want to interpose another

Re: Area tree - renderer (pr.fo for structure renderers)

2002-03-18 Thread Peter B. West
Bertrand, There's another gotcha - markers. The properties in markers are resolved relative to the retrieve-marker invocation point. Peter Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Monday 18 March 2002 13:37, Peter B. West wrote: The big problem is in defining the p.res step. How far do you need

Re: development status

2002-03-19 Thread Peter B. West
Keiron Liddle wrote: ... To serialize between the Area Tree and the Renderers there are some serious problems that would get in the way: - in many cases the area tree will need to be complete before sending anything across, this defeats the whole purpose and will use a lot of memory -

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2002-03-19 Thread Peter B. West
Fops, Re my prior message, I received this response. Nice to know someone's mail is carefully monitored. Peter Trend SMEX Content Filter has detected sensitive content. Place = fop-dev; ; ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender = Peter B. West Subject = [Fwd: Re: development status] Delivery Time

Netiquette

2002-03-20 Thread Peter B. West
When someone offends against netiquette, I should think that garden-variety etiquette would decree that you post your complaints to that individual. If he (resp. she) continues to offend, then try the public humiliation of which netizens seem so fond. That public rebuke could legitimately

Re: development status

2002-03-20 Thread Peter B. West
Joerg, You have highlighted one of the nastinesses of page formatting. A QD solution often suggested is to allow a fixed width for the page numbers, but I don't see how this can stand as a final solution. The gaps are going to be obvious in something purporting to be a high-quality

[DOCUMENTATION] diffs for files in design/alt.design

2002-03-26 Thread Peter B. West
Arved or Keiron, Attached are diffs for xml-fop/docs/design/alt.design/alt.properties.xml and xml-fop/docs/design/alt.design/book.xml. A previous email included new files for the design/alt.design directory. Peter Index: alt.properties.xml

[DOCUMENTATION] design/alt.design new files [1 of 2]

2002-03-26 Thread Peter B. West
Arved or Keiron, Attached are new files for the xml-fop/docs/design/alt.design directory. They are in 1 of 2 .tgz files. This one contains compound-properties.xml coroutines.png coroutines.xml footnotes.xml galley-preprocessing.png galleys.xml initial-column-values.png Some diffs for other

[DOCUMENTATION] design/alt.design new files [2 of 2]

2002-03-26 Thread Peter B. West
Arved or Keiron, Attached are new files for the xml-fop/docs/design/alt.design directory. They are in 2 of 2 .tgz files. This one contains line-area-5.png line-area-6.png traits.xml Some diffs for other files have also been sent. Peter alt.design.2.tgz Description: GNU Zip compressed

Recent additions to ALT DESIGN documentation

2002-03-27 Thread Peter B. West
Keiron has committed for me some additions to the ALT DESIGN documentation, which resides under the NEW DESIGN item in the FOP web pages. These should be available shortly. The new items include discussion on co-routines (some changes still pending) galleys footnotes Some of this discussion

Some comments on the build system

2002-04-03 Thread Peter B. West
Fops, I would like to see the build system overhauled. The overall objectives of the overhaul would be to simplify the build process and decrease barriers to entry for would-be developers. The tactical objectives would be to eliminate XSL from the build, and to generate the classes

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