Re: Frame's future

2007-03-02 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
On 3/2/07, John Sgammato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- snipped --- And I have read enough about FrameMaker on the Mac. We know you're unhappy. Adobe knows you're unhappy. All God's chillun' must know you're unhappy. You have expressed your feelings about it quite well enough, thank you. The

Re: Cross Refs, Structured FM, and WWP

2007-03-02 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand
Marsha, There is nothing bad about old workhorses... * What are the names of the ID attributes in your title or sections elements and what is the name of the IDREF attribute in your CrtossReference element? * There is no easy migration from WWP8.x to Webworks ePublisher! * You should upgrade

RE: Frame's future

2007-03-02 Thread Gordon McLean
Sales figures will reveal the story. What sells more, Photoshop or FrameMaker? *yawns* Gordon This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is intended solely for the

Check Boxes and Radio Buttons in FM 7.2

2007-03-02 Thread Martin Brocks
Hello, we need to insert check boxes and radio buttons (working with FM 7.2) which are also supposed to be working after conversion to pdf. Does anybody have any experience with this? Kind regards, Martin Brocks --- Brocks Thiesemann GbR

Re: Check Boxes and Radio Buttons in FM 7.2

2007-03-02 Thread Art Campbell
Work to do what? Are you trying to do a form, or send email, or something else? To get an idea of what's possible, I'd review www.microtype.com; I think most framers would agree that Shlomo's the leading authority on making active PDFs from FM. Art On 3/2/07, Martin Brocks [EMAIL PROTECTED]

How to create 'Word style' bookmarks

2007-03-02 Thread Massimiliano Lodi
Hi, I'm very new to FrameMaker and this is my problem: We have Word 2000 document with a lot of named bookmarks; with a VBA macro we connect to an access DB and update all the bookmarks contents (the key is the bookmark name), so that we can update the document and keep it aligned with the DB.

RE: Structured Frame saving XML

2007-03-02 Thread Combs, Richard
Trevor Nicholls wrote: Our source documents are in XML and we edit in structured Frame. I have XSL processes running successfully on Open and Save and I have no issues with the validity of the XML which Frame is giving me. However I do have an issue with the layout. Because our XML

Configuring Paste

2007-03-02 Thread Zoe Lawson
Greetings, Sometime ago, someone posted a lovely little trick where you can change something, somewhere and configure your paste settings. By default, if you copy something from Word and paste it into Frame, you get a Word object or something. I want to paste text. I edited a file somewhere,

RE: Frame's future @ Mac/UNIX

2007-03-02 Thread David Creamer
It seems to me the question of How to get a new Mac version of FrameMaker? is resolved by the question How to get more Macintosh users using FrameMaker? I can't think of a way to solve that one quickly. Maybe we can turn this into a contest? The first thing is that Apple has to start

Re: Configuring Paste

2007-03-02 Thread Art Campbell
You want the maker.ini file. I usually edit the copy in the FM install directory. Do a find for any of the paste flavors: TEXT, RTF, etc. to find the appropriate line to edit. Then just reorder the formats on the line so your favorite is first. Art On 3/2/07, Zoe Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Configuring Paste

2007-03-02 Thread Phil Heron
Zoë, Open the maker.ini file (in \Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.2). Find this line: ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF, TEXT Change it to: ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF Phil _

RE: Configuring Paste

2007-03-02 Thread Combs, Richard
Zoe Lawson wrote: By default, if you copy something from Word and paste it into Frame, you get a Word object or something. I want to paste text. I edited a file somewhere, based off of suggestions from this list, and fixed it. Now I can't find the setting again. I'm having trouble

RE: Structured Frame saving XML

2007-03-02 Thread Trevor Nicholls
Well... suppose we have a source code fragment following this kind of model: codelabel { word(parameter) long-word (parameter, parameter) }/code where the 'code' element has the #FIXED attributes 'formatted=yes' and 'xml:space=preserve' in the DTD. We want to preserve the

R: How to create 'Word style' bookmarks

2007-03-02 Thread Massimiliano Lodi
Hi Rick, Thank you very much for the quick answer! This is a Word document with 5 bookmarks; the bookmarks are the strings delimited by brackets []; you can select them from the menu Insert/Bookmarks. From a VB macro you write something like this: ActiveDocument.Bookmarks(ARTICOLO1).Select

Re: Structured Frame saving XML

2007-03-02 Thread Kenneth C. Benson
From: Trevor Nicholls [EMAIL PROTECTED] Because our XML files are managed by a source control system, I would like to minimize the differences between revisions, and Frame's apparent perversity regarding line-wrapping in particular is making this difficult. Is it following any rules at all?

RE: Desired future features of FrameMaker

2007-03-02 Thread Chris Borokowski
I agree, David. I'm thinking Adobe is taking a long look at the future of FrameMaker and realizing that some internal re-design may be needed to keep the code flexible for modern (post-2000) OSs. They're also probably wanting to do some things to the interface to make it seem a bit slicker.

Re: Frame's future @ Mac/UNIX

2007-03-02 Thread Art Campbell
There's also the probability that the CS suite porting is taking place in the US Adobe development center but Frame is coded by Adobe India -- so the Mac skill set may not be where the FM code is. On 3/1/07, Steve Rickaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:38 -0700 1/3/07, Graeme R Forbes wrote:

R: How to create 'Word style' bookmarks

2007-03-02 Thread Massimiliano Lodi
Hi Rick, and thanks again for your interest. Our document is a technical manual translated in several languages; it contains several technical terms requiring a very skilled translation. Each document bookmark is named with the technical term; inside the DB we have a table with all these

Let's end discussions at this time on Frames future

2007-03-02 Thread FrameUsers . com List Admin
Dear Framers- The thread regarding Frame's future has reached the end of its usefulness. Please take further discussions on this thread topic off line. Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. Sincerely- Michelle Anderson List Admin

RE: Configuring Paste

2007-03-02 Thread Rene Stephenson
Phil, Art, Richard, et al.: If the file format order is as listed, doesn't FM then paste even FM items as unformatted text? I'm wondering if there's a way to order those formats so that if it's FM source, it pastes FM but uses TEXT otherwise. Would the following work?

RE: Configuring Paste

2007-03-02 Thread Charles Beck
FWIW, I would still recommend using a third-party format-stripper, such as HovText (which is a free utility) when copying and pasting from Word into Frame, especially. The reason? The Paste as Text option in Frame does not necessarily strip out all hidden Word formatting relics, so you can

RE: Configuring Paste

2007-03-02 Thread Fred Ridder
Notice that the maker.ini item starts with the word clipboard, which refers to the Windows clipboard. FrameMaker only uses the Windows clipboard when pasting content that was copied in another application. FrameMaker-to-FrameMaker copy/pasting uses an internal mechanism that does not go through

Re: How to create 'Word style' bookmarks

2007-03-02 Thread Mike Wickham
1. It sounds like you just need to create a user variable for each term and insert the variables at the appropriate spots in your document. 2. Then, make several other template documents (one for each language) that have the same user variables, but define them with the translated

Re: How to create 'Word style' bookmarks

2007-03-02 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Mike, Based on my understanding of what Max is trying to do, the FrameScript or FDK portion would be used to lookup the correct translation stored in a database. Rick 1. It sounds like you just need to create a user variable for each term and insert the variables at the appropriate

RE: Structured Frame saving XML

2007-03-02 Thread Matt Sullivan
Regarding the internal spacing and line breaks within the XML... The description I've always lived by is that Frame creates equivalent, not exact XML (or SGML). I recall a few posts by Dan E relating to things that change like entity names and XRef Id's. Have you tried using the files in your

Re: How to create 'Word style' bookmarks

2007-03-02 Thread Massimiliano Lodi
Hi Mike, thanks for your interesting answer. 1. It sounds like you just need to create a user variable for each term and insert the variables at the appropriate spots in your document. You're right, but someway to connect directly to database would be much easier than creating and maintening

Re: How to create 'Word style' bookmarks

2007-03-02 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Massimiliano: I believe that FrameMaker has the ability to connect to a database via the ODBC standard (Open Data Base Connectivity.) Try searching FrameMaker's online help, Google, and the knowledgebase at Adobe.com for something like ODBC FrameMaker. Also, try a disk search on your

How do you store your information?

2007-03-02 Thread Marcus Carr
Gordon McLean wrote: > As you rightly point out, FM is not a content management product. I > am fully aware of that fact, but unfortunately it seems my > predecessors either weren't, or (as is more likely) hadn't managed to > take the next step forward towards 'better' single sourcing. I'm >

Spelling Checker not checking table titles

2007-03-02 Thread rebecca officer
Hmmm. Have you tried marking all paragraphs for rechecking and then trying again? (to get to that option, click the Dictionaries button in the spellchecker dialog box). I'm on FM7.0, and it checks table titles. Cheers, Rebecca >>> "Mark Southee" 1/03/07 23:29 >>> Thanks for that Rebecca, but

Frame's future

2007-03-02 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
On 3/2/07, John Sgammato wrote: --- snipped --- > And I have read enough about FrameMaker on the Mac. We know you're unhappy. > Adobe knows you're unhappy. All God's chillun' must know you're unhappy. > You have expressed your feelings about it quite well enough, thank you. The > well-organized

Frame's future

2007-03-02 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:21 + 2/3/07, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: >My advise if for them to read Joe Sutter's "747 -- Creating the >World's First Jumbo Jet and Other Adventures from a Life in Aviation". Thanks, Bodvar. And when you've finished that, try Tracey Kidder's 'The Soul of a New Machine', about how

Cross Refs, Structured FM, and WWP

2007-03-02 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand
Marsha, There is nothing bad about old workhorses... * What are the names of the ID attributes in your title or sections elements and what is the name of the IDREF attribute in your CrtossReference element? * There is no easy migration from WWP8.x to Webworks ePublisher! * You should upgrade

Frame's future

2007-03-02 Thread Gordon McLean
Sales figures will reveal the story. What sells more, Photoshop or FrameMaker? *yawns* Gordon This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is intended solely for the

Check Boxes and Radio Buttons in FM 7.2

2007-03-02 Thread Martin Brocks
Hello, we need to insert check boxes and radio buttons (working with FM 7.2) which are also supposed to be working after conversion to pdf. Does anybody have any experience with this? Kind regards, Martin Brocks --- Brocks & Thiesemann GbR

Check Boxes and Radio Buttons in FM 7.2

2007-03-02 Thread Art Campbell
"Work" to do what? Are you trying to do a form, or send email, or something else? To get an idea of what's possible, I'd review www.microtype.com; I think most framers would agree that Shlomo's the leading authority on making active PDFs from FM. Art On 3/2/07, Martin Brocks wrote: > Hello, > >

How to create 'Word style' bookmarks

2007-03-02 Thread Massimiliano Lodi
Hi, I'm very new to FrameMaker and this is my problem: We have Word 2000 document with a lot of named bookmarks; with a VBA macro we connect to an access DB and update all the bookmarks contents (the key is the bookmark name), so that we can update the document and keep it aligned with the DB.

Structured Frame saving XML

2007-03-02 Thread Combs, Richard
Trevor Nicholls wrote: > Our source documents are in XML and we edit in structured > Frame. I have XSL processes running successfully on Open and > Save and I have no issues with the validity of the XML which > Frame is giving me. However I do have an issue with the > layout. Because our XML

Configuring Paste

2007-03-02 Thread Zoe Lawson
Greetings, Sometime ago, someone posted a lovely little trick where you can change something, somewhere and configure your paste settings. By default, if you copy something from Word and paste it into Frame, you get a Word object or something. I want to paste text. I edited a file somewhere,

Frame's future @ Mac/UNIX

2007-03-02 Thread David Creamer
> It seems to me the question of "How to get a new Mac > version of FrameMaker?" is resolved by the question > "How to get more Macintosh users using FrameMaker?" > > I can't think of a way to solve that one quickly. > Maybe we can turn this into a contest? The first thing is that Apple has to

Configuring Paste

2007-03-02 Thread Art Campbell
You want the maker.ini file. I usually edit the copy in the FM install directory. Do a "find" for any of the paste flavors: TEXT, RTF, etc. to find the appropriate line to edit. Then just reorder the formats on the line so your favorite is first. Art On 3/2/07, Zoe Lawson wrote: > Greetings, >

Structured Frame Saving XML

2007-03-02 Thread Daniel Emory
What, exactly, do you mean by Frame's "perversity" in line wrapping? What, exactly, are you comparing it with on the XML side? Frame's line wrapping actions are dependent upon settings in the paragraph designer, including: * Under Advanced (automatic hyphenation) * Under Basic (indents). ---

Configuring Paste

2007-03-02 Thread Phil Heron
Zo?, Open the maker.ini file (in \Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.2). Find this line: ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF, TEXT Change it to: ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF Phil _

Configuring Paste

2007-03-02 Thread Combs, Richard
Zoe Lawson wrote: > By default, if you copy something from Word and paste it into > Frame, you get a Word object or something. I want to paste > text. I edited a file somewhere, based off of suggestions > from this list, and fixed it. Now I can't find the setting > again. I'm having trouble

Configuring Paste

2007-03-02 Thread Zoe Lawson
Thanks to Richard and Art for getting back to me so fast. This message is staying in my inbox this time. I thought it was in the maker.ini file, but searching for Edit or Paste didn't work. ;-) Thanks again! Zo? You're looking for the ClipboardFormatsPriorities keyword in the maker.ini

Structured Frame saving XML

2007-03-02 Thread Andrew Avis
> Our source documents are in XML and we edit in structured > Frame. I have XSL processes running successfully on Open and > Save and I have no issues with the validity of the XML which > Frame is giving me. However I do have an issue with the > layout. Because our XML files are managed by a

R: How to create 'Word style' bookmarks

2007-03-02 Thread Massimiliano Lodi
Hi Rick, Thank you very much for the quick answer! This is a Word document with 5 bookmarks; the bookmarks are the strings delimited by brackets []; you can select them from the menu Insert/Bookmarks.

Frame's future @ Mac/UNIX

2007-03-02 Thread Sam Beard
Scott, This isn't exactly true. Microsoft CHOSE not to export IE for Mac OS X. This was done partly because Apple has their own browser, Safari, and partly because of the rise in popularity of Firefox, Opera, Camino, and others. The last version of IE for Mac was running quite well on Mac OS

Structured Frame saving XML

2007-03-02 Thread Kenneth C. Benson
From: "Trevor Nicholls" > Because our XML files are managed by a source control > system, I would like to minimize the differences between revisions, and > Frame's apparent perversity regarding line-wrapping in particular is making > this difficult. > > Is it following

Desired future features of FrameMaker

2007-03-02 Thread Chris Borokowski
I agree, David. I'm thinking Adobe is taking a long look at the future of FrameMaker and realizing that some internal re-design may be needed to keep the code flexible for modern (post-2000) OSs. They're also probably wanting to do some things to the interface to make it seem a bit slicker.

Frame's future @ Mac/UNIX

2007-03-02 Thread Art Campbell
There's also the probability that the CS suite porting is taking place in the US Adobe development center but Frame is coded by Adobe India -- so the Mac skill set may not be where the FM code is. On 3/1/07, Steve Rickaby wrote: > At 09:38 -0700 1/3/07, Graeme R Forbes wrote: > > >"Although

R: How to create 'Word style' bookmarks

2007-03-02 Thread Massimiliano Lodi
Hi Rick, and thanks again for your interest. Our document is a technical manual translated in several languages; it contains several technical terms requiring a very skilled translation. Each document bookmark is named with the technical term; inside the DB we have a table with all these

Let's end discussions at this time on Frames future

2007-03-02 Thread FrameUsers.com List Admin
Dear Framers- The thread regarding Frame's future has reached the end of its usefulness. Please take further discussions on this thread topic off line. Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. Sincerely- Michelle Anderson List Admin

Configuring Paste

2007-03-02 Thread Charles Beck
FWIW, I would still recommend using a third-party format-stripper, such as HovText (which is a free utility) when copying and pasting from Word into Frame, especially. The reason? The "Paste as Text" option in Frame does not necessarily strip out all hidden Word formatting relics, so you can

Configuring Paste

2007-03-02 Thread Fred Ridder
Notice that the maker.ini item starts with the word "clipboard", which refers to the Windows clipboard. FrameMaker only uses the Windows clipboard when pasting content that was copied in another application. FrameMaker-to-FrameMaker copy/pasting uses an internal mechanism that does not go through

How to create 'Word style' bookmarks

2007-03-02 Thread Mike Wickham
1. It sounds like you just need to create a user variable for each term and insert the variables at the appropriate spots in your document. 2. Then, make several other template documents (one for each language) that have the same user variables, but define them with the translated definitions.

How to create 'Word style' bookmarks

2007-03-02 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Mike, Based on my understanding of what Max is trying to do, the FrameScript or FDK portion would be used to "lookup" the correct translation stored in a database. Rick > 1. It sounds like you just need to create a user variable for each term > and insert the variables at the appropriate

Structured Frame saving XML

2007-03-02 Thread Matt Sullivan
Regarding the internal spacing and line breaks within the XML... The description I've always lived by is that Frame creates equivalent, not exact XML (or SGML). I recall a few posts by Dan E relating to things that change like entity names and XRef Id's. Have you tried using the files in your

How to create 'Word style' bookmarks

2007-03-02 Thread Massimiliano Lodi
Hi Mike, thanks for your interesting answer. > 1. It sounds like you just need to create a user variable for each term and insert the variables at the appropriate spots in your document. You're right, but someway to connect directly to database would be much easier than creating and maintening

How to create 'Word style' bookmarks

2007-03-02 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Massimiliano: I believe that FrameMaker has the ability to connect to a database via the ODBC standard (Open Data Base Connectivity.) Try searching FrameMaker's online help, Google, and the knowledgebase at Adobe.com for something like ODBC FrameMaker. Also, try a disk search on your