Re: microuptime() went backwards

2000-09-08 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
or certain systems, I'm still waiting for some feedback on that. Either way, I have a patch which I need to burn in in my lab, but right now I have a hard time getting my SMP box to even print out "Copyright..." when it boots :-( -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3

Re: looking for microuptime went backwards victims...

2000-09-06 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
genius.systems.pavilion.net 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #11: Tue Sep 5 12:45:45 BST 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENIUS i386 On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 06:41:14PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: I'm looking for the remaining victims of the dreaded "microuptime

DEVFS patch.

2000-09-05 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
TAILQs. Various nitpicking here and there. The patch to i386/include/atomic.h is taken from SMPng to which I added atomic_cmpset_ptr(). -- With this patch DEVFS has the features and properties it should have with respect to the "main mount". -- Poul-Henning Kamp

looking for microuptime went backwards victims...

2000-09-04 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
"i8254" /* name */ }; -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail

Re: Include OpenSSL root CA cert list?

2000-09-04 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
even referenced by the conf file. What does everyone think? Make it a port... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained

Re: Currents PCI support hosed ?

2000-09-02 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Baldwin writes: Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: If I boot this machine on a -current kernel, it doesn't find the fxp#'s at all: Do you have Peter's latest commits to pci/pci.c pci/pcisupport.c and i386/isa/pcibus.c? Without that, mulitple PCI busses is b0rked

Re: Tagged queuing for ATA drives, patches up for testing

2000-09-01 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubs

Re: Tagged queuing for ATA drives, patches up for testing

2000-09-01 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
udmamode=4 cblid=1 Works with tagged queueing: ad1: IBM-DJNA-351520/J56OA30K ATA-4 disk at ata1-master ad1: 14664MB (30033360 sectors), 29795 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S ad1: 16 secs/int, 31 depth queue, tagged UDMA66 ad1: piomode=4 dmamode=2 udmamode=4 cblid=1 -- Poul-Henning Kamp |

Currents PCI support hosed ?

2000-09-01 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
0 ad0: 9768MB ST310212A [19846/16/63] at ata0-master using UDMA66 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a ttt# -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice wha

Re: recent change to conf.h breaks xosview port

2000-08-30 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
, or is there a new problem in sys/conf.h? To me, it looks like sys/conf.h should pull sys/time.h in for itself, although I understand that pollution comes along with that. Ciao, Sheldo. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD

resolving DEVFS and modules.

2000-08-30 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
ng "almost cloning). WARNING: Not tested! Wed Aug 30 23:27:05 CEST 2000 --- -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to

Re: alpha devfs feedback

2000-08-28 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
this? Hmm, which exact names are you missing ? Have you tried accessing them directly, for instance: ls -l /dev/da0s2e or whatever their names are ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since

Re: alpha devfs feedback

2000-08-28 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matthew Jacob writes: On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matthew Jacob writes: I compiled and booted on alpha. It sees my ad0 now. Plus it also sees the 3 'da' disks that were found. The only real problem

Re: alpha devfs feedback

2000-08-28 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
]. I mostly was raising this to see if someone else has tried alpha in this regard. If not- I can help debug this and fix it, but next week. Hmm, can you send me a ls -l /dev from a !devfs alpha so I can see what it looks like ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL

Re: devfs

2000-08-28 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sheldon Hearn writes: On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 21:35:26 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Do you have devfs in /etc/fstab ? That is *not* needed, /sbin/init will mount devfs on /dev automatically. Out of curiosity, what's the motivation behind this decision? Why

Re: devname(3) broken for DEFVS

2000-08-28 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
added device nodes after boot where dev_mkdb was run. I think the DTRT solution is a sysctl where kern_conf.c can answer the question. It's on my list. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3

Re: alpha devfs feedback

2000-08-28 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
d solution for this can be found in the bio/buf paper I wrote. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To U

Re: PATCH: devfs mkIII test review please.

2000-08-27 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Boris Popov writes: On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Missing: Rename Subdirs. Close some race conditions using guaranteed atomic operations. Mountoption (ro ?) to prevent new devices from appearing in an instance

Re: official devfs patch for review

2000-08-27 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
that was the point of my work on fdescfs. I'm not quite ready to embrace fdescfs yet, I want to get devfs fully debugged first. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what

Re: devfs

2000-08-27 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
? That is *not* needed, /sbin/init will mount devfs on /dev automatically. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incomp

official devfs patch for review

2000-08-26 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
There is an official DEVFS patch at http://phk.freebsd.dk/patch/devfs.patch This incorporates the functional bits from the patch Boris posted here earlier as I've been able to extract them from his patch. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: weirdness with devfs? (time)

2000-08-23 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
12, 1 Dec 31 1969 ttyv1 crw--- 1 root wheel 12, 2 Dec 31 1969 ttyv2 crw--- 1 root wheel 12, 3 Dec 31 1969 ttyv3 -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe

Re: weirdness with devfs? (time)

2000-08-23 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Siobhan Patricia Lynch writes: On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Siobhan Patricia Lynch writes: this is cute: notice the dates, they predate the epoch. Because of your timezone. nod, figured that out already

Re: PATCH: devfs mkIII test review please.

2000-08-21 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sheldon Hearn writes: On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 21:26:24 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Ahh, right, this is something else than I thought: These are symlinks in the normal case, for instance: /dev/audio - /dev/audio0 What's the plan for things like

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/conf files src/sys/dev/bktr bktr_os.c src/sys/dev/md md.c src/sys/fs/devfs devfs.h devfs_devs.c devfs_vfsops.c devfs_vnops.c src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC src/sys/i4b/driver i4b_ctl.c i4b_rbch.c i4b_tel.c i4b_trace.c ...

2000-08-20 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
/dev/fd* ls -l /dev/fd0a ls -l /dev/fd0.1200 ls -l /dev/fd* Have fun, Sorry it's taken so long to get to here... Poul-Henning In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Poul-Henning Kamp writ es: phk 2000/08/20 14:34:39 PDT Modified files: sys/c

Re: PATCH: devfs mkIII test review please.

2000-08-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
E3DC660AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In 84513.966631292@critter, Poul-Henning Kamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please look at, test and review: http://phk.freebsd.dk/patch/devfsIII.patch [...] When booting the kernel built from a sys tr

Re: PATCH: devfs mkIII test review please.

2000-08-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Ok, I belive this one is fixed now, please try again. Poul-Henning In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert Drehmel writes: In 84513.966631292@critter, Poul-Henning Kamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please look at, test and review: http://phk.freebsd.dk/patch/devfsIII.patch [...] When

Re: PATCH: devfs mkIII test review please.

2000-08-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
y $ ps ps: proc size mismatch (8448 total, 1048 chunks) $ """ This is the usual excercise with recompiling libkvm, ps, top and friends when certain central kernel structures changes size. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP

Re: PATCH: devfs mkIII test review please.

2000-08-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert Drehmel writes: In 86054.966696645@critter, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Ok, I belive this one is fixed now, please try again. Yes, it boots. But when using a kernel with ``options DEVFS'', there is no /dev/audio or /dev/mouse, for example; devfs has mounted

Re: PATCH: devfs mkIII test review please.

2000-08-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert Drehmel writes: In 86054.966696645@critter, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Ok, I belive this one is fixed now, please try again. Yes, it boots. But when using a kernel with ``options DEVFS'', there is no /dev/audio or /dev/mouse, for example; devfs has mounted

PATCH: devfs mkIII test review please.

2000-08-18 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
md(4), tun(4), bpf(4) If DEVFS add -d flag to /sbin/inits args to make it mount devfs. Add commented out DEVFS to GENERIC -- end -- -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-t

Re: Patch test review: vop_stdaccess()

2000-08-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Boris Pop ov writes: On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Please test and review this patch: http://phk.freebsd.dk/patch/vop_stdaccess.patch Looks fine to me except vop_stdaccess() itself. Since VREAD, VWRITE and VEXEC bits are carefully layed

Re: Kernel explosion in -stable

2000-08-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
guidance, and a double-check to see if I have messed up on the expected behaviour might be in order (look for "prison"). -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute

LINT doesn't compile

2000-08-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
syv# make -k linking kernel umodem.o: In function `umodem_set_line_coding': umodem.o(.text+0xe6a): undefined reference to `memcmp' *** Error code 1 (continuing) `all' not remade because of errors. syv# -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP

Patch test review: vop_stdaccess()

2000-08-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Linecount: removes: 243 adds: 79 net change: -164 -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe:

sys/modules/hpfs doesn't compile...

2000-08-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
/hpfs/../../fs/hpfs/hpfs_vnops.c:89: warning: `hpfs_abortop' used but never defined *** Error code 1 Stop in /syv/s0/sys/modules/hpfs. syv# -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never

Re: Ugly, slow shutdown

2000-08-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
n't needed. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: Ugly, slow shutdown

2000-08-07 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
on before proceeding. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Re: Ugly, slow shutdown

2000-08-07 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
ouptime() (depending on it being UTC locked or not). This has also always been the case. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be expla

Re: make world breakage

2000-08-04 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "David O'Brien" writes: Quite sorry, my contrib/gdb/ activities were suppose to be sheilded from users. And vice-versa I pressume :-) -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coret

a FS related patch to test please...

2000-07-28 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
, nvp); if (error) { *vpp = NULLVP; -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence

Re: if_tun.ko seems broken

2000-07-27 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
install a hostroute to the other end when it is reachable. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Un

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-23 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
to give you more randomness. In other words, and more bluntly: Please shut up now, will you ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-23 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kri s Kennaway writes: On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Obviously, if you need more randomness than a stock FreeBSD system can provide you with, you add hardware to give you more randomness. This won't help if it's fed through Yarrow. Nobody has

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-23 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
lar I fear that the current implementation already has killed battery lifetimes on laptops :-( -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
with some kernel option which can be used to get a copy of the entropy so we can study the quality off it. BTW: You have *no* idea how much I envy your access to high quality timing hardware :-) -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
offsets as you. What does that give him? Not much, but it could reduce the bits that he needs to guess. By how much? I don't know. Mark, this is one of the reasons why we need a way to measure the quality of our entropy, please -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-18 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
ause. You forget; a snooper watching your (ether)net has access to nearly all of this information. No, he doesn't have access to the offset from the machines local clock. I ran a quick dirty test here on some logfiles: that offset is very close to white noise. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX s

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-18 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
about your hardware, he cannot predict all bits. If he could, ntp would have a longer poll period :-) -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-18 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
:-) -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-18 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
ight after install. Principle of "tools, not politics": You can configure it stupidly if you want, you can also strengthen it beyond practical use if you want. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member |

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-18 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
noise amplitude? What do you mean by "amplitude" ? The frequency deviation ? The phase error ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-18 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
t;, measured in bits. OK, then the answer is: "a couple of bits" -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incomp

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-18 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
is that we compare the received data with our unpredictable local clock. It is the result of this comparison which is good entropy bits. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-18 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Vadim Belman writes: On Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 04:14:50PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: NTP is the perfect way to gather entropy at bootup! Only if in reach of an NTP server ? Obviously :-) And what if no network at all? Your need for random

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-18 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
clients. At least some of the clients are being treated as untrusted (consider public terminals) and server has some critical information on it. Nobody talked about relying on *only* NTP for entropy, quite the contrary in fact. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
, the output from getnanotime() is not very random at all, unless you dive into the timecounter code to find out what the parameters are. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
ught about adding a entropy server to my array of weird servers in my lab. Something like a Geiger counter and a smokedetector could do wonders. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander Langer writ es: Thus spake Poul-Henning Kamp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I have thought about adding a entropy server to my array of weird servers in my lab. Something like a Geiger counter and a smokedetector could do wonders. HA! Cool! Do that please! I

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Steve O'Hara-Smith" writes : On 17-Jul-00 Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: NTP is the perfect way to gather entropy at bootup! Only if in reach of an NTP server ? Obviously :-) -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
think we first need to figure out the security implications. I think the security implications of having no entropy are much worse than having entropy which a truly superhuman *maybe* could guess *some* of the bits in, are far worse. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROT

Re: weird application coredumps ....

2000-07-15 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
ght On Top ... After searching the freebsd-current mailling list i located the bit about malloc.conf ln -sf j /etc/malloc.conf --- fixed the problems i was having No, not "fixing the problems", "obscuring the problems". The tintin++ code contains errors, and you should f

Re: Recent -current Performance Drop?

2000-07-13 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Thomas D. Dean" writes: I turned off the malloc AJ flags, via malloc.conf. It improved 'make world' by something like 17% == mean_aj/mean_AJ. Make sense, make world is dominated by gcc/cc1 which is doing a lot of malloc/free operations. -- Poul-He

Re: Recent -current Performance Drop?

2000-07-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
it if you want to run benchmarks: ln -sf aj /etc/malloc.conf -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence

Re: 5.0-20000706-SNAP boot floppy failure

2000-07-10 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
he install menu came up. That has been fixed. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe:

Re: Suspicious warnings in -CURRENT

2000-07-08 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
'A' option of phkmalloc and examine the core. ln -sf A /etc/malloc.conf -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by in

Re: KAME integration and plans

2000-07-05 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kri s Kennaway writes: I intend to MFC this stuff in 4 or 5 days assuming it doesn't present any problems, I'm sorry, but isn't that a tad fast, considering the scope of these changes ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: /sys hierarchy

2000-07-01 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
consensus for moving filesystems under /sys/fs but not for moving net*. The reason for the difference in concensus is probably that net* is a systematic prefix. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since

Make World is hosed...

2000-06-26 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
executable version (5.00503) at Config.p m line 18. *** Error code 255 Stop in /syv/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /syv/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. *** Error code 1 -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c

2000-06-24 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matthew Dillon writes: : :Right, but if mounting with -osoftdep, does what a "tunefs -n enable" :does (and vice versa) fsck will have that knowledge and the tunefs :step would be un-needed. : :-- :Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c

2000-06-22 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
). This one was a misunderstanding, in fact vinum/raid5 works more reliably with softupdates than without I belive. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c

2000-06-22 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
it to the new state. Right, but if mounting with -osoftdep, does what a "tunefs -n enable" does (and vice versa) fsck will have that knowledge and the tunefs step would be un-needed. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBS

Re: fsck wrappers

2000-06-20 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
me to 'ffs' in the kernel and in the userland? If not, I'll volunteer to find all kernel/userland uses I can and provide a diff. The correct way to do this is to make it accept both for some limited time, and then warn about the obsolete for a few months, then discontinue it. -- Poul-Henning Kamp |

Re: SMP locking primities (was Re: HEADS UP: Destabilization due to SMP development)

2000-06-20 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Am I the only person who miss a brief document which tells what the outcome of the meeting was ? Can we get to see the slides ? Audio ? Video ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3

Re: HEADS UP: Destabilization due to SMP development

2000-06-20 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
not sure now is the time to do it either. So: No I don't like -current being toast anymore than you do, but I don't think there is a viable alternative. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3

Re: HEADS UP: Destabilization due to SMP development

2000-06-20 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Warner Losh writes: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Poul-Henning Kamp writes: : I think core has approved in principle, and several core members : were present at the meeting (at least peter, dg, gibbs, dfr), that : being said, I think we need to see some more concrete

Re: HEADS UP: Destabilization due to SMP development

2000-06-20 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brian Somers writes: What about doing the changes on a branch with the understanding that the branch will *replace* HEAD when it stabilises ? "CVS branches suck" is the reason I belive. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL

Re: SMP locking primities (was Re: HEADS UP: Destabilization due to SMP development)

2000-06-20 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
, and Matt Dillon's webpage gives a pretty good summary of the work too (at http://apollo.backplane.com/FreeBSDSmp/) But we're not looking for a summary of the meeting, we're looking for all the gory details... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP

Re: ACPI project progress report

2000-06-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
- read there" I/O registers in existence. Obviously the video driver will need to send a signal or clue to the Xserver saying "you own the device, you'd better do something" -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956

Re: WARNING /dev/wd compat hack removed...

2000-06-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Daniel O'Connor" write s: On 15-Jun-00 Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Remove the "wd" compatibility name from the "ad" driver. WARNING: If you have not updated to use /dev/wd* in your /etc/fstab You mean 'If you have not update

Re: HEADSUP: bioops patch.

2000-06-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
, I'm not sure it is correct to go the detour around Vnodes, if we do, we need to add VOP_BAWRITE, VOP_BDWRITE and all those other operations as well. But what vnode would you use for a buffer associated with a freeblock bitmap ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL

WARNING /dev/wd compat hack removed...

2000-06-15 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
--- Forwarded Message Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Poul-Henning Kamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 13:30:53 -0700 (PDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/ata ata-disk.c src/sys/i386/i386 autoconf.c src/sys/kern subr_disk.c

HEADSUP: bioops patch.

2000-06-14 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
} } splx(s); - return (UFS_UPDATE(vp, wait)); + error = UFS_UPDATE(vp, wait); + if (error == 0 vp-v_mount (vp-v_mount-mnt_flag MNT_SOFTDEP)) + error = softdep_fsync(vp); + return (error); } -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zi

Re: kernel config errors...

2000-06-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubs

Re: HEADS UP Re: cvs commit: src/crypto/openssh/pam_ssh pam_ssh.c src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb freebsd-uthread.c src/include mpool.h src/lib/libc/net name6.c src/lib/libc_r/uthread pthread_private.h uthread_file.c src/lib/libncp ncpl_rcfile.c src/lib/libstand if_ether.h ...

2000-05-26 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
. I have yet to see any signs of "massive breakage". -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetenc

Re: HEADS UP Re: cvs commit: src/crypto/openssh/pam_ssh pam_ssh.c src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb freebsd-uthread.c src/include mpool.h src/lib/libc/net name6.c src/lib/libc_r/uthread pthread_private.h uthread_file.c src/lib/libncp ncpl_rcfile.c src/lib/libstand if_ether.h ...

2000-05-25 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
commit hiding the fact that this is "(elm)-field.sle_next". Anyway, curelm must be a pointer to a struct. Not just any struct; the struct must contain a "field" declared using SLIST_ENTRY(). It could be an union or class as well... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zi

Re: HEADS UP Re: cvs commit: src/crypto/openssh/pam_ssh pam_ssh.c src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb freebsd-uthread.c src/include mp

2000-05-25 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
to back this out. I'm for. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Re: Major device numbers and mem device redesign

2000-05-21 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
g new read/write/poll/ioctl/etc routines? I ask, as my RNG is a kld, and I want it to be as separate as possible without getting ridiculous. make_dev() takes a pointer to your struct cdevsw{} for this particular minor. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Major device numbers and mem device redesign

2000-05-21 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
the other crap? If so, way cool! yes, enjoy :-) -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send

Re: cvsup on recent -CURRENT

2000-05-15 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
into this before. Which host are you pilling from? I am slurping things out of cvsup.uk.freebsd.org and see the same messages. I thought it was crappy modem connection. Try to disable the newreno stuff. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since

src/bin/csh/csh.1 breaks R/O /usr/src builds

2000-05-15 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
in src/bin/csh a make clean tries to delete csh.1 this fails if src is mounted Read-Only. Why is this file checked in in the first place if make clean wants to remove it ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam

Re: make release problem

2000-05-14 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
it with real floppies up until the point where we went to two-floppy install... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by

Re: vn.ko load/unload/mount = panic

2000-05-14 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
of dev_t's get an error because the device has gone away. destroy_dev will clear the necessary fields in a dev_t, cdevsw_remove will not. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never

Re: vn.ko load/unload/mount = panic

2000-05-14 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
). disk_destroy is different from destroy_dev, and I'll get to it real soon. Also, while you still can, that should be dev_destroy(). No, because the corresponding is called make_dev(). -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD

Re: MAKEDEV Warning ???

2000-05-13 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
program and see if that stops the warning Manfred ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/netinet tcp.h tcp_input.c tcp_output.c tcp_timer.c tcp_var.h

2000-05-13 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
he problem when I cvsup over a lossy line, goes away when newreno is disabled. Who wants packet traces to look at ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malic

Re: MAKEDEV Warning ???

2000-05-13 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
should use. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Small MAKEDEV bug

2000-05-08 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
t. Make it MAKEDEV -num_of_devs dev_name and there will be no ambiguity. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by i

Re: MAKEDEV warning with sysinstall ?

2000-05-08 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
describe it with some debugging added. Thanks for the hint! -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence

Re: MAKEDEV warning with sysinstall ?

2000-05-08 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dan Nelson writes: In the last episode (May 08), Poul-Henning Kamp said: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik de Zeeuw writes: I installed FreeBSD 5.0-2506-CURRENT on an AMD K6-2, 64Mb, 4Gb, and when I first launch /stand/sysinstall after the system has start

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