Re: I/O semantics of pipe and FIFO.

2017-03-08 Thread Alfred Perlstein
case of dd, > causing a simple printf(3) to go to an unexpected location). > — > Devin > > >> On Mar 4, 2017, at 8:12 PM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: >> >> Devin and I found this when we worked together. I think it was due to some >> situation in dd(1) wh

Re: Fwd: Re: I/O semantics of pipe and FIFO.

2017-03-04 Thread Alfred Perlstein
Devin and I found this when we worked together. I think it was due to some situation in dd(1) where short reads would exit pre-maturely, however I may be mis-remembering. Devin, do you recall the specifics? On 3/4/17 7:44 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: an interesting point to discuss? is our b

Re: effect of strip(1) on du(1)

2017-03-03 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 3/2/17 5:30 PM, Alan Somers wrote: On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Ngie Cooper wrote: On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: ... Even if that is the case file system cache effects should NOT be visible to a userland process. This is NOT as if your running 2 different p

Re: Is there possible run a MacOS X binary

2016-12-08 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 12/7/16 10:57 AM, K. Macy wrote: A MachO activator is indeed not useful without an OSX install. But let's be honest, Mach IPC is a loadable kernel module requiring no real kernel changes. It's not upstreamable because of a general poor understanding of IPC by noisy commentators and a rel

Re: [RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12

2016-09-12 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 9/11/16 6:38 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: hi, For long we are planning to remove GNU rcs from base, after a failed attempt before FreeBSD 10.0. Let see where we are to be able to remove it from FreeBSD 12. GNU rcs is a GPLv2 software with newer version being GPLv3 preventing any updates/f

Re: [PATCH] randomized delay in locking primitives, take 2

2016-08-01 Thread Alfred Perlstein
Why is +struct lock_delay_config { +u_int initial; +u_int step; +u_int min; +u_int max; +}; missing comments for its members? Are they documented anywhere else? -Alfred On 7/31/16 5:41 AM, Mateusz Guzik wrote: On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 01:49:28PM +0300, Konstantin Belousov wro

Re: difference in SIGCHLD behavior between Linux and FreeBSD breaks apt

2016-07-18 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 7/18/16 4:15 PM, Matthew Macy wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 16:11:53 -0700 Alfred Perlstein wrote > I believe the > > > On 7/6/16 9:34 PM, Matthew Macy wrote: > > As a first step towards managing linux user space in a chrooted /compat/linux,

Re: difference in SIGCHLD behavior between Linux and FreeBSD breaks apt

2016-07-18 Thread Alfred Perlstein
I believe the On 7/6/16 9:34 PM, Matthew Macy wrote: As a first step towards managing linux user space in a chrooted /compat/linux, initially for i915 testing with intel gpu tools, later on to get widevine and steam to work I'm trying to get apt to work. I've fixed a number of issues to date

Re: r300951 make buildworld duration 18h

2016-05-30 Thread Alfred Perlstein
It's too bad make(1) can't have a "max parallel jobs" for a particular directory. I believe that some of the llvm build winds up using nearly a gig of RAM per compiled .c file, so when you are running 2 jobs at once, LLVM will swap like mad. If we could add something under the llvm directory

Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)

2016-04-19 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 4/19/16 1:09 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: As far as I know, nobody is taking the source code or the Makefiles away, so if somebody doesn't like the system being distributed with pkg, they can very well roll their own. It's nice to see the level of enthusiasm the FreeBSD project can muster,

Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)

2016-04-19 Thread Alfred Perlstein
ge. Can anyone provide an argument against (1) or, alternatively, for (2)? (2) seems to add a lot of complexity for no clear gain and I remain pretty confused about why it was chosen. -Nathan On 04/18/16 20:17, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Maybe what the "too many packages" folks need to do is

Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)

2016-04-19 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 4/19/16 7:47 AM, dan_partelly wrote: Look, take a look at history and the Linux kernel threads story and its impact on FreeBSD. If you'd like I can talk about it. Please, yes, I would love to hear about it. Sure, so back in late 90s, ~1999 sometime after Solaris released kernel threads L

Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)

2016-04-19 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 4/19/16 7:39 AM, dan_partelly wrote: What should not happen is that this incremental step forward be blocked by those unwilling to hash out the next steps. -Alfred While incremental steps forward are great, how do you avoid situations like VNET, where a "good enough" enough implementatio

Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)

2016-04-19 Thread Alfred Perlstein
It is very important to understand that a packaged base is extremely useful for those building any sort of distro or appliance distro. So although the concept of "user serviceable" is important, it's not just that. Such a change makes it easy for a distro or appliance making to cherry pick up

Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)

2016-04-19 Thread Alfred Perlstein
next steps. -Alfred On 4/19/16 12:44 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: On 19/04/2016 5:29 AM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Guys please stop arguing about the number of packages. The high granularity is VERY useful! it's going to make us a laughing stock "look FreeBSD just split into 1.43 million pa

Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)

2016-04-18 Thread Alfred Perlstein
Maybe what the "too many packages" folks need to do is write some code to hide that it's so many packages. :) I think the rule of two feet should be applied here. What we have is people that have worked quite hard to bring us something that we can easily work with, and on the other hand some

Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)

2016-04-18 Thread Alfred Perlstein
Guys please stop arguing about the number of packages. The high granularity is VERY useful! Managing large groups of small packages is much easier than just having large packages. All this can be done by meta-packages which depend on larger package groups. Later pkg can be augmented to "rem

Re: Heads up

2016-04-14 Thread Alfred Perlstein
Warner thank you very much. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 14, 2016, at 8:17 PM, Warner Losh wrote: > >> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Warner Losh wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 7:22 PM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: >>> >

Re: Heads up

2016-04-14 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 4/14/16 3:42 PM, Warner Losh wrote: The CAM I/O scheduler has been committed to current. This work is described in https://people.freebsd.org/~imp/bsdcan2015/iosched-v3.pdf though the default scheduler doesn't change the default (old) behavior. One possible issue, however, is that it also e

Re: New LOR ?

2016-02-12 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 2/12/16 12:50 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: I don't recall seeing this one before: FreeBSD critter.freebsd.dk 11.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT #31 r293468: Sat Jan 9 11:50:09 UTC 2016 r...@critter.freebsd.dk:/freebsd/obj/freebsd/svn_src/head/sys/GENERIC amd64 +taskqueue_drain with

Re: Packaging the FreeBSD base system with pkg(8)

2016-01-28 Thread Alfred Perlstein
This is going to be huge for FreeBSD. Thank you Glen, Bapt and I believe Peter Wemm as well. Having been engineering lead on multiple appliances based on FreeBSD this is going to revolutionize and make life so much easier for future appliance endeavors and general manageability of FreeBSD.

Re: libXO-ification - Why - and is it a symptom of deeper issues?

2015-11-16 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 11/16/15 9:16 AM, Allan Jude wrote: On 2015-11-16 12:09, Elizabeth Myers wrote: On 15/11/15 06:54, Dan Partelly wrote: Hi all, I was looking at the new facility of dumping JSON,XML from many utils in base and after some funny minutes, I couldn't stop ask myself “ Ok, this is funny , but

Re: libXO-ification - Why - and is it a symptom of deeper issues?

2015-11-16 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 11/16/15 9:39 AM, Dan Partelly wrote: How big of a donor you are to the FreeBSD Foundation does not affect the committable of your code. Having code ready to commit, vs just a vague plan, does help your solution win out over another proposed solution though Then surely you will salvage som

Re: libXO-ification - Why - and is it a symptom of deeper issues?

2015-11-16 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 11/15/15 10:09 AM, Allan Jude wrote: On 2015-11-15 13:06, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Nov 15, 2015, at 09:51, Andrey Chernov wrote: On 15.11.2015 20:37, Adrian Chadd wrote: On 15 November 2015 at 09:10, Dan Partelly wrote: Meaning, is that simple to push things in head , if somone does th

Re: FYI: SVN to GIT converter currently broken, github is falling behind

2015-11-11 Thread Alfred Perlstein
Lars, Try to remove .git/gc.log then re-run fetch. If that doesn't work then move ".git/refs/remotes/origin/HEAD" to backup location outside of your .git directory and try again. -Alfred On 11/11/15 4:03 AM, Eggert, Lars wrote: Hi, I just got this error when fetching from remote; related?

Re: FYI: SVN to GIT converter currently broken, github is falling behind

2015-11-07 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 11/5/15 6:46 AM, Ulrich Spörlein wrote: 2015-11-04 18:57 GMT+01:00 Ulrich Spörlein : The recent SVN update on the cluster broke svn2git in certain circumstances. To fix this and make sure no content was dropped, the converter has been stopped and we're working on bringing a fixed version o

Re: Segmentation fault running ntpd

2015-07-30 Thread Alfred Perlstein
Adrian the crash we are seeing here is very easily reproducible. Grab our private ports repo and revert my most recent revert and build. It appears to show up multiple times per day somehow in our configuration. On 7/28/15 7:25 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: On 28 July 2015 at 16:09, David Wolfskill

Re: Increase BUFSIZ to 8192

2015-05-14 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 5/14/15 2:23 AM, Garrett Cooper wrote: On May 14, 2015, at 1:06, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message <20150514075316.gy37...@funkthat.com>, John-Mark Gurney writes: Poul-Henning Kamp wrote this message on Thu, May 14, 2015 at 07:42 +: In message <20150514072155.gt3

Re: Merging GitHub Pull Requests into Subversion using git-svn

2015-04-27 Thread Alfred Perlstein
[[ reply private ]] On 4/25/15 12:30 AM, David Chisnall wrote: On 23 Apr 2015, at 00:12, Craig Rodrigues wrote: While not as smooth as clicking a merge button in GitHub, this is a valid way to accept patches submitted via GitHub pull requests, and integrate them in our FreeBSD Subversion repo

Re: Merging GitHub Pull Requests into Subversion using git-svn

2015-04-24 Thread Alfred Perlstein
Very cool. Glad it worked and thanks for the shout-out. Hoping this can be automated some day. On 4/22/15 4:12 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: Hi, Alfred Perlstein recently wrote this document for how to use git-svn for interacting between the FreeBSD Subversion repo, and the GitHub mirror of

Re: Bazaaring the cathedral (Lowering the Barrier to Entry)

2015-04-02 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 4/2/15 6:53 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hans Petter Selasky wrote: I hope this is not one more of those April fools :-) I've been thinking that since Eitan's first post of Wed, 1 Apr 2015 09:55:11 -0700 (18:55 CEST) "self-serve commit access" I kept wondering what would kee

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-04 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 3/4/15 8:21 AM, John Baldwin wrote: On Tuesday, March 03, 2015 09:09:43 AM David Chisnall wrote: Hopefully there's a lesson here that we can learn from: human-readable formats do not make good intermediate representations when communicating between tools. I think this is actually an argum

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-03 Thread Alfred Perlstein
> On Mar 3, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Justin Hibbits wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Mar 3, 2015, at 9:32 AM, hiren panchasara >>>> wro

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-03 Thread Alfred Perlstein
Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 3, 2015, at 9:32 AM, hiren panchasara > wrote: > >> On 03/02/15 at 07:33P, Alfred Perlstein wrote: >> >>>> >> >> Actually I want to shame third party ports into adopting libxo (or at least >> providing mac

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-02 Thread Alfred Perlstein
> On Mar 2, 2015, at 7:14 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: > >> On 3/2/15 5:30 PM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: >> >>>> On Mar 2, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Andrey Chernov wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 02.03.2015 22:55, Julian Elischer wrote: >>>>>

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-02 Thread Alfred Perlstein
> On Mar 2, 2015, at 6:27 PM, Andrey Chernov wrote: >> >> >> The responsibility is on you to provide something better, both the >> architecture AND code. So if you want it backed out, then write something >> better. Otherwise step back and let progress happen. > > As it seems you know a lot

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-02 Thread Alfred Perlstein
> On Mar 2, 2015, at 5:37 PM, Andrey Chernov wrote: > >> On 03.03.2015 4:30, Alfred Perlstein wrote: >> >> >>>> On Mar 2, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Andrey Chernov wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 02.03.2015 22:55, Julian Elischer wrote: >>&g

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-02 Thread Alfred Perlstein
> On Mar 2, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Andrey Chernov wrote: > >> On 02.03.2015 22:55, Julian Elischer wrote: >>> On 3/2/15 5:27 AM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On 3/2/15 4:14 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: >>>>> On 3/1/15 10:

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-02 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 3/2/15 4:57 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: .. we can/should do both. Just make sure the json/html/xml output is versioned, otherwise you're going to end up with /exactly the same problems/ you have with the current format. +1 -Alfred ___ freebsd-cur

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-02 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 3/2/15 2:53 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: On 3/2/15 5:25 AM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 3/2/15 4:25 AM, David Chisnall wrote: On 2 Mar 2015, at 09:16, Julian Elischer wrote: if we develop a suitable post processor with pluggable grammars, we save a lot of work. given enough examples you

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-02 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 3/2/15 4:14 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: On 3/1/15 10:49 AM, Harrison Grundy wrote: Thanks! That does seem useful, but I'm not sure I see the reasoning behind putting into base, over a port or package, since processing XML in base is a pain, and it can't serve up JSON or HTML without additio

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-02 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 3/2/15 4:25 AM, David Chisnall wrote: On 2 Mar 2015, at 09:16, Julian Elischer wrote: if we develop a suitable post processor with pluggable grammars, we save a lot of work. given enough examples you could almost have automatically generated grammars. This decoupled approach is problemat

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-01 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 3/1/15 4:57 PM, Harrison Grundy wrote: I like the idea behind this... where I'm running into difficulty is why these bits of functionality need to be combined. What someone does with ifconfig on the command line, versus what someone wants to know about their network interfaces in an XML dump

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-01 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 3/1/15 4:29 PM, Rui Paulo wrote: On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:11, David Chisnall wrote: How would it be in a port? It involves modifying core utilities (some of which, like ifconfig, rely on kernel APIs that change between releases) to emit structured output. Maintaining two copies of each ut

Re: default pager (csh)

2015-02-22 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On Feb 22, 2015, at 8:41 AM, RW wrote: > On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 14:18:24 +1030 > Shane Ambler wrote: > >> On 20/02/2015 01:22, RW wrote: >>> On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 19:16:59 -0600 >>> Mike Karels wrote: >>> >>> Trivia: the version of more on BSD systems actually is derived from less, not

Re: default pager (csh)

2015-02-19 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 2/19/15 9:04 AM, Chris H wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 00:16:55 -0800 Julian Elischer wrote On 2/18/15 3:41 PM, Xin Li wrote: The _only_ reason that I can think of is that more(1) does not clear screen for certain terminals (done with 'ti' and 'te' sequences), while less(1) when running as l

Re: HEADS-UP: Enabling WITH_DEBUG_FILES by default

2015-02-11 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 2/11/15 8:28 PM, Glen Barber wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 09:23:01PM -0700, Ian Lepore wrote: On Thu, 2015-02-12 at 04:11 +, Glen Barber wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 08:56:00PM -0700, Ian Lepore wrote: On Wed, 2015-02-11 at 22:21 -0500, Ed Maste wrote: On 11 February 2015 at 21:3

Re: PSA: If you run -current, beware!

2015-02-05 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 2/5/15 11:00 AM, Peter Wemm wrote: On Thursday, February 05, 2015 10:48:54 AM John Baldwin wrote: On Thursday, February 05, 2015 04:22:23 PM Luigi Rizzo wrote: On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 08:21:45AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: On Thursday, February 05, 2015 08:48:33 AM Luigi Rizzo wrote: ...

Re: Weird behavior writing to SSD on 2013 MacBook

2015-02-05 Thread Alfred Perlstein
It's possible original intent of that construct was just a pause/throttle if it used to be an if(). Makes sense although should investigate further. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 5, 2015, at 1:03 AM, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > >> On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 12:45:55AM -0800,

Re: Weird behavior writing to SSD on 2013 MacBook

2015-02-05 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 2/5/15 12:30 AM, Konstantin Belousov wrote: On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 08:56:59AM +0100, Dimitry Andric wrote: If you let bsdtar continue, and press control-T a few times, does the user time (u) increase at all? Does it ever go any further, if you let it run for a very long time? I believe a

Re: simple task to speed up booting

2014-12-14 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On Dec 14, 2014, at 6:52 AM, Ian Lepore wrote: > On Sun, 2014-12-14 at 10:32 +, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> The rotating swirlie ('-/|\') in the loader accounts for a surprisingly >> large part of our boot time on systems with slow-ish serial consoles. >> >> I think right now it takes a step

console screen saver broken? -current

2014-12-11 Thread Alfred Perlstein
Up until a few months ago the following added to /etc/rc.conf would blank the screen: # /etc/rc.conf saver="green" allscreens_flags="-t 60" Now that no longer works. Can someone explain how to restore the power saving screen saver please? It doesn't seem obvious from the docs or anything else

Re: External toolchain support

2014-11-30 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 11/29/14, 7:04 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: Hi all, It is now possible to use an external toolchain to build the kernel and base (tested with gcc 4.9.1 and latest binutils) Of course a lot of work is needed to make it build cleanly (aka lots of warning to fix). What have been tested so fa

Re: RFC: Remove pty(4)

2014-11-27 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On Nov 27, 2014, at 1:52 AM, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 04:41:27PM -0800, Davide Italiano wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 12:37 PM, John Baldwin wrote: >>> On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:00:14 AM Davide Italiano wrote: One of my personal goals for 11 is to get

Re: comments on code-in tasks for FreeBSD (Re: FreeBSD + Google Code-In 2014 = we need ideas.)

2014-11-17 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 11/17/14, 6:55 AM, Chris H wrote: On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 19:55:16 -0800 Rui Paulo wrote On Nov 13, 2014, at 17:40, Luigi Rizzo wrote: But please nuke the current list -- it is completely inadequate for the code-in candidates and misleading for whoever wants to suggest new tasks. Again i am

Re: Finding a rogue src/sys commit with bisection?

2014-11-15 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 11/15/14, 11:56 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message <5467af7a.2080...@mu.org>, Alfred Perlstein writes: I resent your implications. Seriously I do. There was no intent to be childish or anything as such. Well, you were, and intentional or not, you're wasting a he

Re: Finding a rogue src/sys commit with bisection?

2014-11-15 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 11/15/14, 11:53 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:48:07AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 11/15/14, 11:42 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:39:33AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: This is really over the top. It's not evangelism, the guy asked &quo

Re: Finding a rogue src/sys commit with bisection?

2014-11-15 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 11/15/14, 11:51 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message <5467adf7.1020...@mu.org>, Alfred Perlstein writes: Nope. You showed some svn commands to not do it, you weren't explicit in asking for ways to do it in svn, go ahead, look: I didn't realize that the git-zea

Re: Finding a rogue src/sys commit with bisection?

2014-11-15 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 11/15/14, 11:42 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:39:33AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: This is really over the top. It's not evangelism, the guy asked "how do I do X?" I showed him how to do it in a few simple steps. The guy, that would be me, asked ho

Re: Finding a rogue src/sys commit with bisection?

2014-11-15 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 11/15/14, 11:32 AM, Ian Lepore wrote: On Sat, 2014-11-15 at 11:03 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 11/15/14, 11:01 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 10:56:50AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 11/15/14, 10:43 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: Before I totally hose by /usr/src

Re: Finding a rogue src/sys commit with bisection?

2014-11-15 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 11/15/14, 11:01 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 10:56:50AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 11/15/14, 10:43 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: Before I totally hose by /usr/src directory, does anyone have some guidelines on doing a binary search for a rogue commit in /usr/src/sys

Re: Finding a rogue src/sys commit with bisection?

2014-11-15 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 11/15/14, 10:52 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 07:46:09PM +0100, Mateusz Guzik wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 10:43:32AM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: Before I totally hose by /usr/src directory, does anyone have some guidelines on doing a binary search for a rogue commit in /us

Re: Finding a rogue src/sys commit with bisection?

2014-11-15 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 11/15/14, 10:43 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: Before I totally hose by /usr/src directory, does anyone have some guidelines on doing a binary search for a rogue commit in /usr/src/sys?. Either cam or usb (or acpi?) has broken the ability to remove a external USB device once it is plugged into a usb

Re: Jenkins, Kyua, and Bhyve used for FreeBSD OS testing

2014-10-20 Thread Alfred Perlstein
Craig this is really great. Thanks for doing this and thanks for the Jenkins guys on giving a shout out! On Oct 20, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > Hi, > > FYI, Kohsuke Kawaguchi, the lead developer of Jenkins, > accepted my posting on the Jenkins blog, which describes > how the Fre

Re: [PATCH] Lock scd(4): test or the driver will be removed

2014-10-08 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 10/8/14 11:53 AM, John Baldwin wrote: This patch adds locking to scd(4) and marks it MPSAFE. It also uses bus_*() instead of bus_space_*(). The patch is against HEAD but probably applies to 9 and 10 as well. http://people.freebsd.org/~jhb/patches/scd_locking.patch Note that this driver is

Re: [PATCH] Various fixes to wl(4)

2014-09-22 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 9/22/14 3:05 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: On 22 September 2014 13:46, Warner Losh wrote: I have a dozen I can bring to the next bafug I go to :) But, do you have the pentium class machines with ISA slots that we'd need to use em? :P I have the pci card to pccard bridge cards. I'll bring thos

Re: shells/bash port, add a knob which symlinks to /bin/bash ?

2014-09-14 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 9/14/14, 3:22 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Alfred Perlstein <mailto:bri...@mu.org>> wrote: On 9/13/14, 11:39 AM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: Should really be a standalone package. It's not exactly the same, but the lang/python2 port

Re: shells/bash port, add a knob which symlinks to /bin/bash ?

2014-09-14 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 9/13/14, 11:39 AM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: On 09/13/14 11:32, Craig Rodrigues wrote: If adding an optional knob to the bash port which is OFF by default to do this is a no-go, would having an optional port like what Brooks Davis mentioned be allowed which creates the symlink and updates

Re: shells/bash port, add a knob which symlinks to /bin/bash ?

2014-09-12 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 9/12/14 3:23 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: Hi, I could live with this solution of additional port outside of the main bash port, which creates the symlink and updates /etc/shells. One other thing I am seeing is that many, many shell scripts are written assuming "#!/bin/bash". Forcing all ups

Re: shells/bash port, add a knob which symlinks to /bin/bash ?

2014-09-12 Thread Alfred Perlstein
The correct thing is to make a port/pkg that installs the symlink and /etc/shells this for the user. There is no need for changes to 'base' nor do we need a change to the system port. -Alfred On 9/12/14 2:40 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 02:12:45PM -0700, Craig Rodri

Re: RFC: Remove pty(4)

2014-08-20 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 8/20/14 11:00 AM, Davide Italiano wrote: One of my personal goals for 11 is to get rid of cloning mechanism entirely, and pty(4) is one of the few in-kernel drivers still relying on such mechanism. It's not possible, at least to my understanding, converting pty(4) to cdevpriv(9) as happened w

Re: HOWTO articles for migrating from Linux to FreeBSD, especially for pkg?

2014-07-18 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 7/18/14, 6:28 AM, Allan Jude wrote: On 2014-07-17 16:12, Adrian Chadd wrote: On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: Hi! 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install a

Re: tmpfs panic

2014-07-06 Thread Alfred Perlstein
ged for long time, I would at least ask some things about bhyve. I.e., I would rather first look at the locked prefix emulation then at the tmpfs. What about running the code with INVARIANTS + DEBUG_VFS_LOCKS and see if anything shakes out? -Alfred -- Alfred Perlstein

Re: ipmi patch for review

2014-05-30 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 5/30/14, 10:44 AM, Doug Ambrisko wrote: On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 03:04:46PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: | On Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:21:10 am Gleb Smirnoff wrote: | > Hi! | > | > When system is writing a kernel core dump, it issues watchdog | > pat wdog_kern_pat(WD_LASTVAL). If ipmi i

Re: Make variables to force non default libraries and includes?

2014-04-28 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 4/28/14 12:48 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: I need to do the equivalent of "cd /usr/src/cddl/usr.sbin/dtrace; make DESTDIR=/mumble all install" but it pulls in libraries from the base system, which differ slightly from those in the source tree. How can I force it to use /mumble2/include and

Re: OpenSSL vs. LibreSSL (OpenBSD)

2014-04-24 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 4/24/14, 1:35 PM, O. Hartmann wrote: It seems that OpenBSD is now forking their own SSL implementation, called LibreSSL. As OpenBSD speaks for many similar opinion regarding the state of the code of OpenSSL, I'd like to hear what the plans are in FreeBSD for this critical portion of softwa

Re: warning: filename ends with '.', which is not allowed on Windows: 'tools/test/sort/bigtest/q-1.024.003.'

2014-03-08 Thread Alfred Perlstein
The file in question can be easily renamed, I think. We definitely want to support untaring/zipping the code on Windows. Even if not for cross compiling, just for convenience of use. -- Alfred Perlstein ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http:/

Re: [rfc] bind per-cpu timeout threads to each CPU

2014-02-19 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 2/19/14, 12:04 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: On 19 February 2014 11:59, Alexander Motin wrote: So if we're moving towards supporting (among others) a pcbgroup / RSS hash style work load distribution across CPUs to minimise per-connection lock contention, we really don't want the scheduler to dec

Re: kasserts behind invariants

2013-12-13 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 12/13/13 1:50 PM, Sean Bruno wrote: I guess this may have been argued before, but I don't see why we would want to hide specific things like: sys/kern/subr_lock.c /* Check for double-init and zero object. */ KASSERT(!lock_initalized(lock), ("lock \"%s\" %p already initialized", name

Re: Automated submission of kernel panic reports: sysutils/panicmail

2013-11-04 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 11/4/13, 2:41 AM, Colin Percival wrote: Hi all, After considerable review on freebsd-hackers (thanks dt71 and jilles!) I have now added sysutils/panicmail to the FreeBSD ports tree. If you install this and add panicmail_enable="YES" to your /etc/rc.conf, a panic report will be gener

Re: [rfc] removing the NDISulator

2013-10-23 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 10/23/13 11:11 AM, Adrian Chadd wrote: On 23 October 2013 11:09, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Eh, having taken a stab at porting the bwl blob already, I would strongly oppose removing NDIS. If you do that I will just stop using my netbook with a Broadcom part altogether as I wouldn't be

Re: [rfc] removing the NDISulator

2013-10-23 Thread Alfred Perlstein
S. If you do that I will just stop using my netbook with a Broadcom part altogether as I wouldn't be able to use it to try to test bwl changes. The NDIS thing is a bit hackish, but it is quite useful for a lot of folks. I have to agree. Deprecation

Re: [rfc] removing the NDISulator

2013-10-18 Thread Alfred Perlstein
linux_sta.php Have you looked at bwn(4)? It might just need an additional PCI ID. -Nathan I'm having no love with if_bwn. Any tips on making it work better? I have -current as of ~2 weeks ago. -- Alfred Perlstein ___ freebsd-current

Re: urtwn driver for Edimax EW-7811U WLAN nano USB Adapter

2013-10-16 Thread Alfred Perlstein
ually retrying works. -- Rui Paulo I have a "device timeout" problem with urtwn as well, but I haven't had time to hack the driver to self-reset itself. boo :( -- Alfred Perlstein ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists

Re: rcs

2013-10-09 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 10/9/13 7:20 AM, Glen Barber wrote: On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 07:17:11AM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Only a few years ago you could take a dvd or memstick of FreeBSD and have 1000s of packages to choose from during your install. That is broken now? memstick.img always had a minimal set

Re: rcs

2013-10-09 Thread Alfred Perlstein
r memstick of FreeBSD and have 1000s of packages to choose from during your install. That is broken now? Bummer. -- Alfred Perlstein ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: rcs

2013-10-08 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 10/8/13 11:17 AM, Freddie Cash wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Alfred Perlstein <mailto:bri...@mu.org>>wrote: On 10/7/13 9:49 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: On 10/8/13 11:19 AM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: On 2013-10-07, at 8:15 PM, Steve Kargl

Re: urtwn driver for Edimax EW-7811U WLAN nano USB Adapter

2013-10-08 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 10/8/13 10:41 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hi Alfred & cc current. Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 10/6/13 8:21 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: I wrote Thu, 03 Oct 2013 23:28:43 +0200 Rui Paulo wrote: On 2 Oct 2013, at 16:57, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hi current@, It seems I need if_urtwn dr

Re: rcs

2013-10-08 Thread Alfred Perlstein
oops, sent from my non-subscribed email.. On 10/8/13 11:17 AM, Freddie Cash wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Alfred Perlstein <mailto:bri...@mu.org>>wrote: On 10/7/13 9:49 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: On 10/8/13 11:19 AM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: On 2013-

Re: rcs

2013-10-08 Thread Alfred Perlstein
creen by default. and upgrades work. At the end of the day I'm spending time doing work, not mucking about my workspace to make it usable for development. I think this was brought up at BSDCan in the discussion about making FreeBSD a more featured development platform. Speaking of

Re: rcs

2013-10-08 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 10/8/13 8:26 AM, Andreas Nilsson wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Alfred Perlstein <mailto:bri...@mu.org>> wrote: On 10/8/13 8:04 AM, sth...@nethelp.no <mailto:sth...@nethelp.no> wrote: I think the fact is that most direct u

Re: rcs

2013-10-08 Thread Alfred Perlstein
te, git" why is that so manual for me? Why can't I just register a package set somewhere so that all I have to type in is "alfred.perlstein.devel" into a box during the installer and I get all my packages by default? -- Alfred Perlstein _

Re: rcs

2013-10-08 Thread Alfred Perlstein
big deal at all? -- Alfred Perlstein ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: [Heads Up] RCS removed from base

2013-10-07 Thread Alfred Perlstein
reeBSD (whether prudent or not). That plus the age of the code is good enough reason to ditch it! huzzah! Plus we can make RCSBSD along with it. -- Alfred Perlstein ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/fre

Re: rcs is gone?

2013-10-07 Thread Alfred Perlstein
a non-starter. Our development systems will never be connected to the internet for a ports upgrade. In this environment, in-base RCS is a very useful tool. ___ How do you do your initial install?

Re: urtwn driver for Edimax EW-7811U WLAN nano USB Adapter

2013-10-06 Thread Alfred Perlstein
ve a patch pending to add the usb identifier for this. Is there someone I can provide debug information for to help resolve this? -- Alfred Perlstein ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current

Re: New iSCSI stack.

2013-09-06 Thread Alfred Perlstein
csi configuration files? We would love to quickly backport and ship this with FreeNAS as an option for our users, having the config files be the same OR having a very good converter would really make that much easier for us. -- Alfred Perlstein ___

Re: 2013 MacBook Air Project

2013-08-30 Thread Alfred Perlstein
://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" -- Alfred Perlstein ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-

Re: [rfc] migrate lagg to an rmlock

2013-08-24 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 8/24/13 10:47 AM, Robert N. M. Watson wrote: On 24 Aug 2013, at 17:36, Alfred Perlstein wrote: We should distinguish "lock contention" from "line contention". When acquiring a rwlock on multiple CPUs concurrently, the cache lines used to implement the lock are con

Re: patch to add AES intrinsics to gcc

2013-08-24 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 8/24/13 9:33 AM, Adrian Chadd wrote: You know, I could be a total jerk and say: "If you push gcc out to a port, and you have the 'external compiler' toolchain support working correctly enough to build with this, why don't we just push clang out to a port, and be done with it?" ... just sayin

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