Re: I/O semantics of pipe and FIFO.

eact (e.g., in the case of dd, > causing a simple printf(3) to go to an unexpected location). > — > Devin > > >> On Mar 4, 2017, at 8:12 PM, Alfred Perlstein <alf...@freebsd.org> wrote: >> >> Devin and I found this when we worked together. I thin

Re: Fwd: Re: I/O semantics of pipe and FIFO.

Devin and I found this when we worked together. I think it was due to some situation in dd(1) where short reads would exit pre-maturely, however I may be mis-remembering. Devin, do you recall the specifics? On 3/4/17 7:44 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: an interesting point to discuss? is our

Re: effect of strip(1) on du(1)

On 3/2/17 5:30 PM, Alan Somers wrote: On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Ngie Cooper wrote: On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: ... Even if that is the case file system cache effects should NOT be visible to a

Re: Is there possible run a MacOS X binary

On 12/7/16 10:57 AM, K. Macy wrote: A MachO activator is indeed not useful without an OSX install. But let's be honest, Mach IPC is a loadable kernel module requiring no real kernel changes. It's not upstreamable because of a general poor understanding of IPC by noisy commentators and a

Re: [RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12

On 9/11/16 6:38 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: hi, For long we are planning to remove GNU rcs from base, after a failed attempt before FreeBSD 10.0. Let see where we are to be able to remove it from FreeBSD 12. GNU rcs is a GPLv2 software with newer version being GPLv3 preventing any

Re: [PATCH] randomized delay in locking primitives, take 2

Why is +struct lock_delay_config { +u_int initial; +u_int step; +u_int min; +u_int max; +}; missing comments for its members? Are they documented anywhere else? -Alfred On 7/31/16 5:41 AM, Mateusz Guzik wrote: On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 01:49:28PM +0300, Konstantin Belousov

Re: difference in SIGCHLD behavior between Linux and FreeBSD breaks apt

On 7/18/16 4:15 PM, Matthew Macy wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 16:11:53 -0700 Alfred Perlstein <alf...@freebsd.org> wrote > I believe the > > > On 7/6/16 9:34 PM, Matthew Macy wrote: > > As a first step towards managing linux user space in

Re: difference in SIGCHLD behavior between Linux and FreeBSD breaks apt

I believe the On 7/6/16 9:34 PM, Matthew Macy wrote: As a first step towards managing linux user space in a chrooted /compat/linux, initially for i915 testing with intel gpu tools, later on to get widevine and steam to work I'm trying to get apt to work. I've fixed a number of issues to date

Re: r300951 make buildworld duration 18h

It's too bad make(1) can't have a "max parallel jobs" for a particular directory. I believe that some of the llvm build winds up using nearly a gig of RAM per compiled .c file, so when you are running 2 jobs at once, LLVM will swap like mad. If we could add something under the llvm

Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)

On 4/19/16 1:09 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: As far as I know, nobody is taking the source code or the Makefiles away, so if somebody doesn't like the system being distributed with pkg, they can very well roll their own. It's nice to see the level of enthusiasm the FreeBSD project can muster,

Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)

argument against (1) or, alternatively, for (2)? (2) seems to add a lot of complexity for no clear gain and I remain pretty confused about why it was chosen. -Nathan On 04/18/16 20:17, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Maybe what the "too many packages" folks need to do is write some code to hide that

Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)

On 4/19/16 7:47 AM, dan_partelly wrote: Look, take a look at history and the Linux kernel threads story and its impact on FreeBSD. If you'd like I can talk about it. Please, yes, I would love to hear about it. Sure, so back in late 90s, ~1999 sometime after Solaris released kernel threads

Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)

On 4/19/16 7:39 AM, dan_partelly wrote: What should not happen is that this incremental step forward be blocked by those unwilling to hash out the next steps. -Alfred While incremental steps forward are great, how do you avoid situations like VNET, where a "good enough" enough

Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)

It is very important to understand that a packaged base is extremely useful for those building any sort of distro or appliance distro. So although the concept of "user serviceable" is important, it's not just that. Such a change makes it easy for a distro or appliance making to cherry pick

Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)

. -Alfred On 4/19/16 12:44 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: On 19/04/2016 5:29 AM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Guys please stop arguing about the number of packages. The high granularity is VERY useful! it's going to make us a laughing stock "look FreeBSD just split into 1.43 million packages" (e

Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)

Maybe what the "too many packages" folks need to do is write some code to hide that it's so many packages. :) I think the rule of two feet should be applied here. What we have is people that have worked quite hard to bring us something that we can easily work with, and on the other hand some

Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)

Guys please stop arguing about the number of packages. The high granularity is VERY useful! Managing large groups of small packages is much easier than just having large packages. All this can be done by meta-packages which depend on larger package groups. Later pkg can be augmented to

Re: Heads up

Warner thank you very much. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 14, 2016, at 8:17 PM, Warner Losh <i...@bsdimp.com> wrote: > >> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Warner Losh <i...@bsdimp.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016

Re: Heads up

On 4/14/16 3:42 PM, Warner Losh wrote: The CAM I/O scheduler has been committed to current. This work is described in https://people.freebsd.org/~imp/bsdcan2015/iosched-v3.pdf though the default scheduler doesn't change the default (old) behavior. One possible issue, however, is that it also

Re: New LOR ?

On 2/12/16 12:50 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: I don't recall seeing this one before: FreeBSD critter.freebsd.dk 11.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT #31 r293468: Sat Jan 9 11:50:09 UTC 2016 r...@critter.freebsd.dk:/freebsd/obj/freebsd/svn_src/head/sys/GENERIC amd64 +taskqueue_drain with

Re: Packaging the FreeBSD base system with pkg(8)

This is going to be huge for FreeBSD. Thank you Glen, Bapt and I believe Peter Wemm as well. Having been engineering lead on multiple appliances based on FreeBSD this is going to revolutionize and make life so much easier for future appliance endeavors and general manageability of FreeBSD.

Re: libXO-ification - Why - and is it a symptom of deeper issues?

On 11/15/15 10:09 AM, Allan Jude wrote: On 2015-11-15 13:06, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Nov 15, 2015, at 09:51, Andrey Chernov wrote: On 15.11.2015 20:37, Adrian Chadd wrote: On 15 November 2015 at 09:10, Dan Partelly wrote: Meaning, is that simple

Re: libXO-ification - Why - and is it a symptom of deeper issues?

On 11/16/15 9:39 AM, Dan Partelly wrote: How big of a donor you are to the FreeBSD Foundation does not affect the committable of your code. Having code ready to commit, vs just a vague plan, does help your solution win out over another proposed solution though Then surely you will salvage

Re: libXO-ification - Why - and is it a symptom of deeper issues?

On 11/16/15 9:16 AM, Allan Jude wrote: On 2015-11-16 12:09, Elizabeth Myers wrote: On 15/11/15 06:54, Dan Partelly wrote: Hi all, I was looking at the new facility of dumping JSON,XML from many utils in base and after some funny minutes, I couldn't stop ask myself “ Ok, this is funny ,

Re: FYI: SVN to GIT converter currently broken, github is falling behind

Lars, Try to remove .git/gc.log then re-run fetch. If that doesn't work then move ".git/refs/remotes/origin/HEAD" to backup location outside of your .git directory and try again. -Alfred On 11/11/15 4:03 AM, Eggert, Lars wrote: Hi, I just got this error when fetching from remote; related?

Re: FYI: SVN to GIT converter currently broken, github is falling behind

On 11/5/15 6:46 AM, Ulrich Spörlein wrote: 2015-11-04 18:57 GMT+01:00 Ulrich Spörlein : The recent SVN update on the cluster broke svn2git in certain circumstances. To fix this and make sure no content was dropped, the converter has been stopped and we're working on

Re: Segmentation fault running ntpd

Adrian the crash we are seeing here is very easily reproducible. Grab our private ports repo and revert my most recent revert and build. It appears to show up multiple times per day somehow in our configuration. On 7/28/15 7:25 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: On 28 July 2015 at 16:09, David

Re: Increase BUFSIZ to 8192

On 5/14/15 2:23 AM, Garrett Cooper wrote: On May 14, 2015, at 1:06, Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk wrote: In message 20150514075316.gy37...@funkthat.com, John-Mark Gurney writes: Poul-Henning Kamp wrote this message on Thu, May 14, 2015 at 07:42 +: In message

Re: Merging GitHub Pull Requests into Subversion using git-svn

[[ reply private ]] On 4/25/15 12:30 AM, David Chisnall wrote: On 23 Apr 2015, at 00:12, Craig Rodrigues rodr...@freebsd.org wrote: While not as smooth as clicking a merge button in GitHub, this is a valid way to accept patches submitted via GitHub pull requests, and integrate them in our

Re: Merging GitHub Pull Requests into Subversion using git-svn

Very cool. Glad it worked and thanks for the shout-out. Hoping this can be automated some day. On 4/22/15 4:12 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: Hi, Alfred Perlstein recently wrote this document for how to use git-svn for interacting between the FreeBSD Subversion repo, and the GitHub mirror

Re: Bazaaring the cathedral (Lowering the Barrier to Entry)

On 4/2/15 6:53 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hans Petter Selasky wrote: I hope this is not one more of those April fools :-) I've been thinking that since Eitan's first post of Wed, 1 Apr 2015 09:55:11 -0700 (18:55 CEST) self-serve commit access I kept wondering what would keep

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

On 3/4/15 8:21 AM, John Baldwin wrote: On Tuesday, March 03, 2015 09:09:43 AM David Chisnall wrote: Hopefully there's a lesson here that we can learn from: human-readable formats do not make good intermediate representations when communicating between tools. I think this is actually an

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2015, at 9:32 AM, hiren panchasara hi...@strugglingcoder.info wrote: On 03/02/15 at 07:33P, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Actually I want to shame third party ports into adopting libxo (or at least providing machine readable output). I know it's scary

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

On Mar 3, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Justin Hibbits jr...@alumni.cwru.edu wrote: On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Alfred Perlstein bri...@mu.org wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2015, at 9:32 AM, hiren panchasara hi...@strugglingcoder.info wrote: On 03/02/15 at 07:33P, Alfred

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

On 3/2/15 4:57 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: .. we can/should do both. Just make sure the json/html/xml output is versioned, otherwise you're going to end up with /exactly the same problems/ you have with the current format. +1 -Alfred ___

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

On Mar 2, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Andrey Chernov a...@freebsd.org wrote: On 02.03.2015 22:55, Julian Elischer wrote: On 3/2/15 5:27 AM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 3/2/15 4:14 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: On 3/1/15 10:49 AM, Harrison Grundy wrote: Thanks! That does seem useful, but I'm

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

On Mar 2, 2015, at 6:27 PM, Andrey Chernov a...@freebsd.org wrote: The responsibility is on you to provide something better, both the architecture AND code. So if you want it backed out, then write something better. Otherwise step back and let progress happen. As it seems you know a

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

On Mar 2, 2015, at 7:14 PM, Julian Elischer jul...@freebsd.org wrote: On 3/2/15 5:30 PM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On Mar 2, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Andrey Chernov a...@freebsd.org wrote: On 02.03.2015 22:55, Julian Elischer wrote: On 3/2/15 5:27 AM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 3/2/15 4

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

On Mar 2, 2015, at 5:37 PM, Andrey Chernov a...@freebsd.org wrote: On 03.03.2015 4:30, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On Mar 2, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Andrey Chernov a...@freebsd.org wrote: On 02.03.2015 22:55, Julian Elischer wrote: On 3/2/15 5:27 AM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 3/2/15 4

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

On 3/2/15 4:25 AM, David Chisnall wrote: On 2 Mar 2015, at 09:16, Julian Elischer jul...@freebsd.org wrote: if we develop a suitable post processor with pluggable grammars, we save a lot of work. given enough examples you could almost have automatically generated grammars. This decoupled

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

On 3/2/15 4:14 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: On 3/1/15 10:49 AM, Harrison Grundy wrote: Thanks! That does seem useful, but I'm not sure I see the reasoning behind putting into base, over a port or package, since processing XML in base is a pain, and it can't serve up JSON or HTML without

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

On 3/2/15 2:53 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: On 3/2/15 5:25 AM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 3/2/15 4:25 AM, David Chisnall wrote: On 2 Mar 2015, at 09:16, Julian Elischer jul...@freebsd.org wrote: if we develop a suitable post processor with pluggable grammars, we save a lot of work. given

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

On 3/1/15 4:29 PM, Rui Paulo wrote: On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:11, David Chisnall thera...@freebsd.org wrote: How would it be in a port? It involves modifying core utilities (some of which, like ifconfig, rely on kernel APIs that change between releases) to emit structured output. Maintaining

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

On 3/1/15 4:57 PM, Harrison Grundy wrote: I like the idea behind this... where I'm running into difficulty is why these bits of functionality need to be combined. What someone does with ifconfig on the command line, versus what someone wants to know about their network interfaces in an XML

Re: default pager (csh)

On Feb 22, 2015, at 8:41 AM, RW wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 14:18:24 +1030 Shane Ambler wrote: On 20/02/2015 01:22, RW wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 19:16:59 -0600 Mike Karels wrote: Trivia: the version of more on BSD systems actually is derived from less, not the original version of

Re: default pager (csh)

On 2/19/15 9:04 AM, Chris H wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 00:16:55 -0800 Julian Elischer jul...@freebsd.org wrote On 2/18/15 3:41 PM, Xin Li wrote: The _only_ reason that I can think of is that more(1) does not clear screen for certain terminals (done with 'ti' and 'te' sequences), while

Re: HEADS-UP: Enabling WITH_DEBUG_FILES by default

On 2/11/15 8:28 PM, Glen Barber wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 09:23:01PM -0700, Ian Lepore wrote: On Thu, 2015-02-12 at 04:11 +, Glen Barber wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 08:56:00PM -0700, Ian Lepore wrote: On Wed, 2015-02-11 at 22:21 -0500, Ed Maste wrote: On 11 February 2015 at

Re: PSA: If you run -current, beware!

On 2/5/15 11:00 AM, Peter Wemm wrote: On Thursday, February 05, 2015 10:48:54 AM John Baldwin wrote: On Thursday, February 05, 2015 04:22:23 PM Luigi Rizzo wrote: On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 08:21:45AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: On Thursday, February 05, 2015 08:48:33 AM Luigi Rizzo wrote: ...

Re: Weird behavior writing to SSD on 2013 MacBook

On 2/5/15 12:30 AM, Konstantin Belousov wrote: On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 08:56:59AM +0100, Dimitry Andric wrote: If you let bsdtar continue, and press control-T a few times, does the user time (u) increase at all? Does it ever go any further, if you let it run for a very long time? I believe

Re: Weird behavior writing to SSD on 2013 MacBook

, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 2/5/15 12:30 AM, Konstantin Belousov wrote: On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 08:56:59AM +0100, Dimitry Andric wrote: If you let bsdtar continue, and press control-T a few times, does the user time (u) increase at all? Does it ever go any further, if you let it run for a very

Re: simple task to speed up booting

On Dec 14, 2014, at 6:52 AM, Ian Lepore wrote: On Sun, 2014-12-14 at 10:32 +, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: The rotating swirlie ('-/|\') in the loader accounts for a surprisingly large part of our boot time on systems with slow-ish serial consoles. I think right now it takes a step for

console screen saver broken? -current

Up until a few months ago the following added to /etc/rc.conf would blank the screen: # /etc/rc.conf saver=green allscreens_flags=-t 60 Now that no longer works. Can someone explain how to restore the power saving screen saver please? It doesn't seem obvious from the docs or anything else.

Re: External toolchain support

On 11/29/14, 7:04 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: Hi all, It is now possible to use an external toolchain to build the kernel and base (tested with gcc 4.9.1 and latest binutils) Of course a lot of work is needed to make it build cleanly (aka lots of warning to fix). What have been tested so

Re: RFC: Remove pty(4)

On Nov 27, 2014, at 1:52 AM, Konstantin Belousov wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 04:41:27PM -0800, Davide Italiano wrote: On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 12:37 PM, John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org wrote: On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:00:14 AM Davide Italiano wrote: One of my personal goals for 11 is

Re: comments on code-in tasks for FreeBSD (Re: FreeBSD + Google Code-In 2014 = we need ideas.)

On 11/17/14, 6:55 AM, Chris H wrote: On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 19:55:16 -0800 Rui Paulo rpa...@me.com wrote On Nov 13, 2014, at 17:40, Luigi Rizzo ri...@iet.unipi.it wrote: But please nuke the current list -- it is completely inadequate for the code-in candidates and misleading for whoever wants

Re: Finding a rogue src/sys commit with bisection?

On 11/15/14, 10:43 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: Before I totally hose by /usr/src directory, does anyone have some guidelines on doing a binary search for a rogue commit in /usr/src/sys?. Either cam or usb (or acpi?) has broken the ability to remove a external USB device once it is plugged into a

Re: Finding a rogue src/sys commit with bisection?

On 11/15/14, 10:52 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 07:46:09PM +0100, Mateusz Guzik wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 10:43:32AM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: Before I totally hose by /usr/src directory, does anyone have some guidelines on doing a binary search for a rogue commit in

Re: Finding a rogue src/sys commit with bisection?

On 11/15/14, 11:01 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 10:56:50AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 11/15/14, 10:43 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: Before I totally hose by /usr/src directory, does anyone have some guidelines on doing a binary search for a rogue commit in /usr/src/sys

Re: Finding a rogue src/sys commit with bisection?

On 11/15/14, 11:32 AM, Ian Lepore wrote: On Sat, 2014-11-15 at 11:03 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 11/15/14, 11:01 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 10:56:50AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 11/15/14, 10:43 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: Before I totally hose by /usr/src

Re: Finding a rogue src/sys commit with bisection?

On 11/15/14, 11:42 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:39:33AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: This is really over the top. It's not evangelism, the guy asked how do I do X? I showed him how to do it in a few simple steps. The guy, that would be me, asked how to do it with svn

Re: Finding a rogue src/sys commit with bisection?

On 11/15/14, 11:51 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message 5467adf7.1020...@mu.org, Alfred Perlstein writes: Nope. You showed some svn commands to not do it, you weren't explicit in asking for ways to do it in svn, go ahead, look: I didn't realize that the git-zealots also wanted

Re: Finding a rogue src/sys commit with bisection?

On 11/15/14, 11:53 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:48:07AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 11/15/14, 11:42 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:39:33AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: This is really over the top. It's not evangelism, the guy asked how do I do

Re: Finding a rogue src/sys commit with bisection?

On 11/15/14, 11:56 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message 5467af7a.2080...@mu.org, Alfred Perlstein writes: I resent your implications. Seriously I do. There was no intent to be childish or anything as such. Well, you were, and intentional or not, you're wasting a hell of a lot

Re: Jenkins, Kyua, and Bhyve used for FreeBSD OS testing

Craig this is really great. Thanks for doing this and thanks for the Jenkins guys on giving a shout out! On Oct 20, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: Hi, FYI, Kohsuke Kawaguchi, the lead developer of Jenkins, accepted my posting on the Jenkins blog, which describes how the FreeBSD

Re: [PATCH] Lock scd(4): test or the driver will be removed

On 10/8/14 11:53 AM, John Baldwin wrote: This patch adds locking to scd(4) and marks it MPSAFE. It also uses bus_*() instead of bus_space_*(). The patch is against HEAD but probably applies to 9 and 10 as well. http://people.freebsd.org/~jhb/patches/scd_locking.patch Note that this driver

Re: [PATCH] Various fixes to wl(4)

On 9/22/14 3:05 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: On 22 September 2014 13:46, Warner Losh i...@bsdimp.com wrote: I have a dozen I can bring to the next bafug I go to :) But, do you have the pentium class machines with ISA slots that we'd need to use em? :P I have the pci card to pccard bridge cards.

Re: shells/bash port, add a knob which symlinks to /bin/bash ?

On 9/13/14, 11:39 AM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: On 09/13/14 11:32, Craig Rodrigues wrote: If adding an optional knob to the bash port which is OFF by default to do this is a no-go, would having an optional port like what Brooks Davis mentioned be allowed which creates the symlink and

Re: shells/bash port, add a knob which symlinks to /bin/bash ?

On 9/14/14, 3:22 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Alfred Perlstein bri...@mu.org mailto:bri...@mu.org wrote: On 9/13/14, 11:39 AM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: Should really be a standalone package. It's not exactly the same, but the lang/python2 port

Re: shells/bash port, add a knob which symlinks to /bin/bash ?

The correct thing is to make a port/pkg that installs the symlink and /etc/shells this for the user. There is no need for changes to 'base' nor do we need a change to the system port. -Alfred On 9/12/14 2:40 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 02:12:45PM -0700, Craig

Re: shells/bash port, add a knob which symlinks to /bin/bash ?

On 9/12/14 3:23 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: Hi, I could live with this solution of additional port outside of the main bash port, which creates the symlink and updates /etc/shells. One other thing I am seeing is that many, many shell scripts are written assuming #!/bin/bash. Forcing all

Re: RFC: Remove pty(4)

On 8/20/14 11:00 AM, Davide Italiano wrote: One of my personal goals for 11 is to get rid of cloning mechanism entirely, and pty(4) is one of the few in-kernel drivers still relying on such mechanism. It's not possible, at least to my understanding, converting pty(4) to cdevpriv(9) as happened

Re: HOWTO articles for migrating from Linux to FreeBSD, especially for pkg?

On 7/18/14, 6:28 AM, Allan Jude wrote: On 2014-07-17 16:12, Adrian Chadd wrote: On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares amijar...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote: Hi! 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box 4) .. which means,

Re: tmpfs panic

at least ask some things about bhyve. I.e., I would rather first look at the locked prefix emulation then at the tmpfs. What about running the code with INVARIANTS + DEBUG_VFS_LOCKS and see if anything shakes out? -Alfred -- Alfred Perlstein

Re: ipmi patch for review

On 5/30/14, 10:44 AM, Doug Ambrisko wrote: On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 03:04:46PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: | On Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:21:10 am Gleb Smirnoff wrote: |Hi! | |When system is writing a kernel core dump, it issues watchdog | pat wdog_kern_pat(WD_LASTVAL). If ipmi is

Re: Make variables to force non default libraries and includes?

On 4/28/14 12:48 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: I need to do the equivalent of cd /usr/src/cddl/usr.sbin/dtrace; make DESTDIR=/mumble all install but it pulls in libraries from the base system, which differ slightly from those in the source tree. How can I force it to use /mumble2/include and

Re: OpenSSL vs. LibreSSL (OpenBSD)

On 4/24/14, 1:35 PM, O. Hartmann wrote: It seems that OpenBSD is now forking their own SSL implementation, called LibreSSL. As OpenBSD speaks for many similar opinion regarding the state of the code of OpenSSL, I'd like to hear what the plans are in FreeBSD for this critical portion of

Re: warning: filename ends with '.', which is not allowed on Windows: 'tools/test/sort/bigtest/q-1.024.003.'

can be easily renamed, I think. We definitely want to support untaring/zipping the code on Windows. Even if not for cross compiling, just for convenience of use. -- Alfred Perlstein ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org

Re: [rfc] bind per-cpu timeout threads to each CPU

On 2/19/14, 12:04 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: On 19 February 2014 11:59, Alexander Motin m...@freebsd.org wrote: So if we're moving towards supporting (among others) a pcbgroup / RSS hash style work load distribution across CPUs to minimise per-connection lock contention, we really don't want the

Re: kasserts behind invariants

On 12/13/13 1:50 PM, Sean Bruno wrote: I guess this may have been argued before, but I don't see why we would want to hide specific things like: sys/kern/subr_lock.c /* Check for double-init and zero object. */ KASSERT(!lock_initalized(lock), (lock \%s\ %p already initialized, name,

Re: Automated submission of kernel panic reports: sysutils/panicmail

On 11/4/13, 2:41 AM, Colin Percival wrote: Hi all, After considerable review on freebsd-hackers (thanks dt71 and jilles!) I have now added sysutils/panicmail to the FreeBSD ports tree. If you install this and add panicmail_enable=YES to your /etc/rc.conf, a panic report will be

Re: [rfc] removing the NDISulator

stop using my netbook with a Broadcom part altogether as I wouldn't be able to use it to try to test bwl changes. The NDIS thing is a bit hackish, but it is quite useful for a lot of folks. I have to agree. Deprecation != motivation. -- Alfred Perlstein

Re: [rfc] removing the NDISulator

On 10/23/13 11:11 AM, Adrian Chadd wrote: On 23 October 2013 11:09, Alfred Perlstein bri...@mu.org wrote: Eh, having taken a stab at porting the bwl blob already, I would strongly oppose removing NDIS. If you do that I will just stop using my netbook with a Broadcom part altogether as I

Re: [rfc] removing the NDISulator

looked at bwn(4)? It might just need an additional PCI ID. -Nathan I'm having no love with if_bwn. Any tips on making it work better? I have -current as of ~2 weeks ago. -- Alfred Perlstein ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http

Re: urtwn driver for Edimax EW-7811U WLAN nano USB Adapter

as well. Usually retrying works. -- Rui Paulo I have a device timeout problem with urtwn as well, but I haven't had time to hack the driver to self-reset itself. boo :( -- Alfred Perlstein ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http

Re: rcs

of packages to choose from during your install. That is broken now? Bummer. -- Alfred Perlstein ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current

Re: rcs

On 10/9/13 7:20 AM, Glen Barber wrote: On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 07:17:11AM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Only a few years ago you could take a dvd or memstick of FreeBSD and have 1000s of packages to choose from during your install. That is broken now? memstick.img always had a minimal set

Re: rcs

adding RCS after install is not a big deal at all? -- Alfred Perlstein ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Re: rcs

for me? Why can't I just register a package set somewhere so that all I have to type in is alfred.perlstein.devel into a box during the installer and I get all my packages by default? -- Alfred Perlstein ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: rcs

On 10/8/13 8:26 AM, Andreas Nilsson wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Alfred Perlstein bri...@mu.org mailto:bri...@mu.org wrote: On 10/8/13 8:04 AM, sth...@nethelp.no mailto:sth...@nethelp.no wrote: I think the fact is that most direct users of RCS use

Re: rcs

it usable for development. I think this was brought up at BSDCan in the discussion about making FreeBSD a more featured development platform. Speaking of... has anyone tried PCBSD? -- Alfred Perlstein ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: rcs

oops, sent from my non-subscribed email.. On 10/8/13 11:17 AM, Freddie Cash wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Alfred Perlstein bri...@mu.org mailto:bri...@mu.orgwrote: On 10/7/13 9:49 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: On 10/8/13 11:19 AM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote

Re: urtwn driver for Edimax EW-7811U WLAN nano USB Adapter

On 10/8/13 10:41 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hi Alfred cc current. Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 10/6/13 8:21 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: I wrote Thu, 03 Oct 2013 23:28:43 +0200 Rui Paulo wrote: On 2 Oct 2013, at 16:57, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Hi current@, It seems I need

Re: rcs

On 10/8/13 11:17 AM, Freddie Cash wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Alfred Perlstein bri...@mu.org mailto:bri...@mu.orgwrote: On 10/7/13 9:49 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: On 10/8/13 11:19 AM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: On 2013-10-07, at 8:15 PM, Steve Kargl

Re: rcs is gone?

-starter. Our development systems will never be connected to the internet for a ports upgrade. In this environment, in-base RCS is a very useful tool. ___ How do you do your initial install? -- Alfred Perlstein

Re: [Heads Up] RCS removed from base

prudent or not). That plus the age of the code is good enough reason to ditch it! huzzah! Plus we can make RCSBSD along with it. -- Alfred Perlstein ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current

Re: urtwn driver for Edimax EW-7811U WLAN nano USB Adapter

to add the usb identifier for this. Is there someone I can provide debug information for to help resolve this? -- Alfred Perlstein ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send

Re: New iSCSI stack.

backport and ship this with FreeNAS as an option for our users, having the config files be the same OR having a very good converter would really make that much easier for us. -- Alfred Perlstein ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http

Re: 2013 MacBook Air Project

, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Alfred Perlstein ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr

Re: [rfc] migrate lagg to an rmlock

___ freebsd-...@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-net-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Robert, what do you think about a quick swap of the ifnet structures to counter before 10.x? -Alfred -- Alfred Perlstein

Re: patch to add AES intrinsics to gcc

On 8/24/13 9:33 AM, Adrian Chadd wrote: You know, I could be a total jerk and say: If you push gcc out to a port, and you have the 'external compiler' toolchain support working correctly enough to build with this, why don't we just push clang out to a port, and be done with it? ... just

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