Re: vmware fails on -current

2001-11-21 Thread CHOI Junho
> "ID" == Ian Dowse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ID> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, CHOI Junho writes: > > I'll try. Oh, I forget to say I appiled des's linux_ioctl patch. > ID> Ah, that's different then. I assumed from the error that you had ID> revision 1.76 of li

Re: vmware fails on -current

2001-11-21 Thread Ian Dowse
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, CHOI Junho writes: > >I'll try. Oh, I forget to say I appiled des's linux_ioctl patch. > Ah, that's different then. I assumed from the error that you had revision 1.76 of linux_ioctl.c, but if that patch applied then you don't. Try updating your sources again; revi

Re: vmware fails on -current

2001-11-21 Thread CHOI Junho
>>>>> "ID" == Ian Dowse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ID> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, CHOI Junho writes: > > Hmm.. I have experienced another problem(-current of 19 Nov.) with > vmware. When it runs it comes up with the follo

Re: vmware fails on -current

2001-11-21 Thread Ian Dowse
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, CHOI Junho writes: > >Hmm.. I have experienced another problem(-current of 19 Nov.) with >vmware. When it runs it comes up with the following dialog: > > "Encountered an error while initializing the ethernet address. > You probably

Re: vmware fails on -current

2001-11-21 Thread CHOI Junho
>>>>> "HM" == Hellmuth Michaelis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: HM> After this, vmware comes up and then complains about not able to use HM> /dev/rtc (/dev/rtc is present in /compat/linux and is kld-loaded) but HM> then continues to start up and

Re: vmware fails on -current

2001-11-20 Thread Vladimir B. Grebenschikov
; in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/vmware.sh > > - replace /compat/linux/dev/vmnet1 with a symlink to /dev/vmnet1 > (perhaps the previous step would be unnecessary by this one) > > After this, vmware comes up and then complains about not able to use > /dev/rtc (/dev/rtc is pre

Re: vmware fails on -current

2001-11-20 Thread Hellmuth Michaelis
>From the keyboard of Georg-W. Koltermann: > At Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:37:12 +0100 (MET), > Hellmuth Michaelis wrote: > > > > Thought i update my current this morning and ran into two problem with > > vmware: > > > > 1) when starting vmware, vmware.sh ab

Re: vmware fails on -current

2001-11-19 Thread Ian Dowse
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Georg-W. Koltermann" writes : >I also tried to update /compat/linux/dev/vmnet1 to match the >/dev/vmnet1, and that got me just a litte bit farther. I now get >"Could not get address for /dev/vmnet1: Invalid argument >Failed to configure ethernet0." I added some pr

Re: vmware fails on -current

2001-11-19 Thread Georg-W. Koltermann
At Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:37:12 +0100 (MET), Hellmuth Michaelis wrote: > > Thought i update my current this morning and ran into two problem with > vmware: > > 1) when starting vmware, vmware.sh aborts with > >vmware.sh: cannot create /compat/linux/dev/vmnet1: no such d

vmware fails on -current

2001-11-18 Thread Hellmuth Michaelis
Thought i update my current this morning and ran into two problem with vmware: 1) when starting vmware, vmware.sh aborts with vmware.sh: cannot create /compat/linux/dev/vmnet1: no such device or address 2) after that i tried to recompile/reinstall the vmware2 port and ran into /usr

Re: vmware on current: Could not get addres for /dev/vmnet1

2001-10-19 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Has anyone seen similar problem on recent -current or has someone an > idea why vmware is issuing a SIOCGIFCONF ioctl without providing an > interface name? > > Oct 19 18:04:53 mp /boot/kernel/kernel: linux_ioctl_socket(): ioctl 35093 on To clarif

Re: vmware on current: Could not get addres for /dev/vmnet1

2001-10-19 Thread Mathias . Picker
it says >> something like could not get bridgin status of /dev/vmnet1...) > > Can you send me a ktrace? I suspect my linux_ioctl.c commits may be > at fault. Does anyone know where to get an eval license for vmware2, to run it as root? Has anyone seen similar problem on recent -

vmware on current: Could not get addres for /dev/vmnet1

2001-10-19 Thread Mathias . Picker
(using host-only conf. under vmware) and host-only configuration. The error Could not get address for /dev/vmnet1: argument is invalid Failed to configure ethernet0 is all I get... (this is the host-only case, for bridged it says something like could not get bridgin status of /dev

vmware hanging

2001-07-23 Thread Barry Lustig
Vmware has started hanging on current versions of current. The binary start properly, but when I try and start one of my virtual machines the process hangs in "devbuf". The disk seems to access periodically. I tried ktracing the process but it didn't get very far. Has a

how to read raw disks in vmware?

2001-07-07 Thread Julian Elischer
now that we've removed block devices, there must be a hack to allow us to read block devices from vmware. can someone tell me what it is? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-09 Thread Julian Elischer
Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Andrew Gallatin writes: > > > > Dag-Erling Smorgrav writes: > > > Julian Elischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > I believe that vmware mmaps a region of memory and then somehow syncs > > > >

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-09 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Andrew Gallatin writes: > > Dag-Erling Smorgrav writes: > > Julian Elischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I believe that vmware mmaps a region of memory and then somehow syncs > > > it to disk. (It is certainly doing something like it here).

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-08 Thread Julian Elischer
David Malone wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 02:47:59PM +, Josef Karthauser wrote: > > > what does systat -vmstat or vmstat 1 > > > show? > > > Better still, I guess we could do a linux-truss > > > and see what it's doing... > > > > I believe that it's strace under linux. If someone can p

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-08 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Dag-Erling Smorgrav writes: > Julian Elischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I believe that vmware mmaps a region of memory and then somehow syncs > > it to disk. (It is certainly doing something like it here). > > Theory: VMWare mmaps a region of memory c

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-08 Thread Brian Somers
> On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 04:58:17AM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: > >=20 > > Looks like some way of clustering this might achieve a lot. > >=20 > > what does systat -vmstat or vmstat 1 > > show? > > Better still, I guess we could do a linux-truss > > and see what it's doing... > > I believe that

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-08 Thread David Malone
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 02:47:59PM +, Josef Karthauser wrote: > > what does systat -vmstat or vmstat 1 > > show? > > Better still, I guess we could do a linux-truss > > and see what it's doing... > > I believe that it's strace under linux. If someone can provide me > with a binary of this to

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-08 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 04:58:17AM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: > > Looks like some way of clustering this might achieve a lot. > > what does systat -vmstat or vmstat 1 > show? > Better still, I guess we could do a linux-truss > and see what it's doing... I believe that it's strace under linux

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-08 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Julian Elischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I believe that vmware mmaps a region of memory and then somehow syncs > it to disk. (It is certainly doing something like it here). Theory: VMWare mmaps a region of memory corresponding to the virtual machine's "physical&qu

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-08 Thread Julian Elischer
Josef Karthauser wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 04:08:12AM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: > > Josef Karthauser wrote: > > > > > > 714 root -14 0 123M 79192K inode0:45 25.29% 25.29% vmware > > > > > > When this happens the whole mac

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-08 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 04:08:12AM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: > Josef Karthauser wrote: > > > > 714 root -14 0 123M 79192K inode0:45 25.29% 25.29% vmware > > > > When this happens the whole machine freezes also. Processes run, but > > new proce

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-08 Thread Julian Elischer
Josef Karthauser wrote: > > The slowdown during start up appears to be in biowr; this is probably > because of IDE write caching being switched off. More seriously > the vmware hangs during various phases of it's boot process. Write caching is incompaible with soft update

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-08 Thread Josef Karthauser
three days (probably about 36 hours excluding suspends) on a > > > 366MHz laptop with a ATA33 disk. > > > > Would it be possible for someone experiencing this slowdown to try to > > narrow down the day (or even the week) on which it occurred? > > I've experien

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-07 Thread Robert Watson
ATA33 disk. > > Would it be possible for someone experiencing this slowdown to try to > narrow down the day (or even the week) on which it occurred? I've experienced a substantial slowdown in VMware since bumping forwards from -STABLE on my workstation. As I recently commented on -e

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-07 Thread Bruce Evans
, but I'm not sure which day's I > > updated the kernel. > > > > I'll try some builds. > > Ok. The problem definitely began between -D2001-01-29 and -D2001-01-30. > I'll try and binary chop to workout what caused it. If you have ata disks, try &q

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-07 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 08:56:14PM +, Josef Karthauser wrote: > On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 08:26:15PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > Brian Somers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Indeed. I've been doing a ``make build'' on an OpenBSD-current vm > > > for three days (probably about 36 ho

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-07 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 08:26:15PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Brian Somers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Indeed. I've been doing a ``make build'' on an OpenBSD-current vm > > for three days (probably about 36 hours excluding suspends) on a > > 366MHz laptop with a ATA33 disk. > > Wo

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-07 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 08:26:15PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Brian Somers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Indeed. I've been doing a ``make build'' on an OpenBSD-current vm > > for three days (probably about 36 hours excluding suspends) on a > > 366MHz laptop with a ATA33 disk. > > Wo

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-07 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Brian Somers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Indeed. I've been doing a ``make build'' on an OpenBSD-current vm > for three days (probably about 36 hours excluding suspends) on a > 366MHz laptop with a ATA33 disk. Would it be possible for someone experiencing this slowdown to try to narrow down t

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-06 Thread Brian Somers
does not explain why Windows2000 and the Boot > loader > both slowed down by a factor or 3->6 over teh last 2 weeks. > > It's even slower to start up, before it has even started any emulation.. > > This feels like the system is massively slowing down page activations or >

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-06 Thread Julian Elischer
ast 2 weeks. It's even slower to start up, before it has even started any emulation.. This feels like the system is massively slowing down page activations or some other sort of exceptions that are standard for vmware. The same vmware with the same guest OS (not been updated) is now much slow

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-06 Thread Julian Elischer
ure I noticed this too. It's about 3 x slower for me. Even the startup sequence when we haven't even loaded the bootblocks is MUCH slower.. I'm using vmware 1.0.x and running FreeBSD on it for kernel debugging. -- __--_|\ Julian Elischer / \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-06 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 02:40:27AM +1100, Bruce Evans wrote: > > Could someone please hit me with a clue-bat :) > > Read your freebsd-emulation mail :-). /me wanders off to subscribe to freebsd-emulation. Thanks Bruce. Joe PGP signature

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-06 Thread Bruce Evans
On Tue, 6 Feb 2001, Josef Karthauser wrote: > I'm wondering what's changed recently to cause vmware2 running on > the linuxemu to lose a lot of performance with disk I/O. Use of cmpxchg and possibly other SMP pessimizations. > A couple of weeks ago I could boot win2000 under vmware2 in a matter

What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-06 Thread Josef Karthauser
Hi, I'm wondering what's changed recently to cause vmware2 running on the linuxemu to lose a lot of performance with disk I/O. A couple of weeks ago I could boot win2000 under vmware2 in a matter of minutes; on today's kernel it takes 5 or 10 minutes to boot, and disk I/O is through the roof.

Re: VMWare on -current, how fast should I expect it to be?

2000-09-18 Thread Nik Clayton
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 04:44:41PM +0200, Reinier Bezuidenhout wrote: > Let me first ask ... do you use the "suspend/resume" option?? Yep. > This caused the same "lockup" every few seconds on my machine too - > a much slower 400 PII. As soon as I "shutdown" Win9X and rebooted > it worked fine.

Re: No block devices (was: VMWare on -current, how fast should I expect it to be?)

2000-09-15 Thread Mike Smith
> Greg Lehey wrote: > > > > FWIW, I was never happy with the removal of block devices either. I > > was shouted down with "can you point to any one use they are?", to > > which I replied "just because I don't know of one doesn't mean there > > isn't one, or that there will never be one in the fu

Re: No block devices (was: VMWare on -current, how fast should I expect it to be?)

2000-09-14 Thread Wes Peters
Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > Doesn't Oracle run MUCH better when given raw block disk devices to store > > data on? > > Oracle wants to cache it's own data, it doesn't want the buffer cache > behind it. Yes, now it's all coming back. It's amazing how much you can forget in the space of a decad

Re: No block devices (was: VMWare on -current, how fast should I expect it to be?)

2000-09-14 Thread Wes Peters
Greg Lehey wrote: > > FWIW, I was never happy with the removal of block devices either. I > was shouted down with "can you point to any one use they are?", to > which I replied "just because I don't know of one doesn't mean there > isn't one, or that there will never be one in the future". This

Re: VMWare on -current, how fast should I expect it to be?

2000-09-14 Thread Nik Clayton
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 10:48:20AM -0400, Brian A. Seklecki - Stargate Industries, LLC - NOC wrote: > You're running vmware sucsessfully in --current? Yes. -current from August 18th, and I'm running the vmware2-2.0.2.621 port. Installing Win98 took about 4 hours though -- mos

Re: VMWare on -current, how fast should I expect it to be?

2000-09-13 Thread Brian A. Seklecki - Stargate Industries, LLC - NOC
T) > From: Reinier Bezuidenhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Brian A. Seklecki - Stargate Industries, LLC - NOC" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: VMWare on -current, how fast should I expect it to be? > > Hi .. > > I d

Re: VMWare on -current, [patches]

2000-09-13 Thread Julian Elischer
Brian A. Seklecki - Stargate Industries, LLC - NOC wrote: > > You're running vmware sucsessfully in --current? I sync'd up the last > time I was in the office (last...Friday?) and the linux emulation package > refused to build in --current; complaining about an incopatibl

Re: VMWare on -current, how fast should I expect it to be?

2000-09-13 Thread Brian A. Seklecki - Stargate Industries, LLC - NOC
You're running vmware sucsessfully in --current? I sync'd up the last time I was in the office (last...Friday?) and the linux emulation package refused to build in --current; complaining about an incopatible kernel module. In fact, i had to comment out the linux proc file system

Re: VMWare on -current, how fast should I expect it to be?

2000-09-13 Thread Nik Clayton
. I am. The information above is the disk underlying the UFS filesystem that VMWare is then splatting it's files to. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands

No block devices (was: VMWare on -current, how fast should I expect it to be?)

2000-09-12 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 12 September 2000 at 10:13:16 -0400, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > > Julian Elischer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> >> Nik Clayton wrote: >>> >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> For those of you running VMWare (2) on -current, how fast do

Re: VMWare on -current, how fast should I expect it to be?

2000-09-12 Thread Brooks Davis
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 02:27:45PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > For those of you running VMWare (2) on -current, how fast do you expect it to > be? I'm running it on my PIII 366 laptop. It's not great, but it's usable. The biggest factors I've seen effecting perf

Re: VMWare on -current, how fast should I expect it to be?

2000-09-12 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
ough I may be out of date it's been a while. > So, if Vmware runs on Linux, and Linux doesn't have any block devices, > why would Vmware need block devices? Vmware needs buffering for performance. ISTR some discussion when this came up (a while ago) of having buffered devi

RE: VMWare on -current, how fast should I expect it to be?

2000-09-12 Thread Reinier Bezuidenhout
I have seen this too ... Let me first ask ... do you use the "suspend/resume" option?? If Yes then :) This caused the same "lockup" every few seconds on my machine too - a much slower 400 PII. As soon as I "shutdown" Win9X and rebooted it worked fine. I guess

Re: VMWare on -current, how fast should I expect it to be?

2000-09-12 Thread Thomas David Rivers
Julian Elischer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Nik Clayton wrote: > > > > Hi guys, > > > > For those of you running VMWare (2) on -current, how fast do you expect it to > > be? > > > > I'm running it quite successfully on a 750MHz PII

Re: VMWare on -current, how fast should I expect it to be?

2000-09-12 Thread Julian Elischer
Nik Clayton wrote: > > Hi guys, > > For those of you running VMWare (2) on -current, how fast do you expect it to > be? > > I'm running it quite successfully on a 750MHz PIII w/ 128MB RAM, and the > following disk controller / disk > > atapci0: port

VMWare on -current, how fast should I expect it to be?

2000-09-12 Thread Nik Clayton
Hi guys, For those of you running VMWare (2) on -current, how fast do you expect it to be? I'm running it quite successfully on a 750MHz PIII w/ 128MB RAM, and the following disk controller / disk atapci0: port 0xfc90-0xfc9f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on at

lack of block devices and VMWARE

2000-09-09 Thread Julian Elischer
Has anyone managed to fake out vmware WRT block devices? it REQUIRES a block device to be able to read raw disks, and in fact, if you manage to divert the read to raw devices, the performance SUCKS because they don't cache. -- __--_|\ Julian Elischer / \ [EMAIL PROT

Re: more on: [kldload] Vmware (1.x) port broken in -current

2000-09-09 Thread Julian Elischer
Julian Elischer wrote: > > Julian Elischer wrote: > > > > David Malone wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:57:46PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > > > > > sh vmware.sh start > > > > kldload: can't

Re: more on: Vmware (1.x) port broken in -current

2000-09-09 Thread Julian Elischer
Julian Elischer wrote: > > David Malone wrote: > > > > On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:57:46PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > > > sh vmware.sh start > > > kldload: can't load /usr/local/lib/vmware/lib/modules/vmmon.ko: Exec > > > format e

Re: more on: Vmware (1.x) port broken in -current

2000-09-09 Thread Julian Elischer
David Malone wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:57:46PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > sh vmware.sh start > > kldload: can't load /usr/local/lib/vmware/lib/modules/vmmon.ko: Exec > > format error > > kldload: can't load /usr/local/lib/vmware/

Re: more on: Vmware (1.x) port broken in -current

2000-09-09 Thread David Malone
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:57:46PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: > sh vmware.sh start > kldload: can't load /usr/local/lib/vmware/lib/modules/vmmon.ko: Exec > format error > kldload: can't load /usr/local/lib/vmware/lib/modules/vmnet.ko: Exec > format error > >

Re: more on: Vmware (1.x) port broken in -current

2000-09-08 Thread Julian Elischer
Julian Elischer wrote: > > Just a warning, that the current vmware 1.x port doesn;t compile > under -current. > I'm looking at it at the moment (as I only have a licence for 1.x) > responding to myself: the linux include files that have moved to /sys/compat/linux nee

Vmware (1.x) port broken in -current

2000-09-08 Thread Julian Elischer
Just a warning, that the current vmware 1.x port doesn;t compile under -current. I'm looking at it at the moment (as I only have a licence for 1.x) julian -- __--_|\ Julian Elischer / \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( OZ) World tour 2000 ---> X_.---._/ presently in

Re: ether_ifattach() change and VMware

2000-07-14 Thread Archie Cobbs
Munehiro Matsuda writes: > :: Make all Ethernet drivers attach using ether_ifattach() and detach using > :: ether_ifdetach(). > > After the commit, VMware seems to hang the system at boot time. > The "vmnet" module, that comes with VMware, needs the included patch.

ether_ifattach() change and VMware

2000-07-14 Thread Munehiro Matsuda
es the operations of if_attach(), ng_ether_attach(), :: and bpfattach(). The latter consolidates the corresponding detach operations. :: :: Reviewed by:julian, freebsd-net Hello, After the commit, VMware seems to hang the system at boot time. The "vmnet" module, that comes with V

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-22 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike Smith writes: : As far as the loader is concerned, though, neither of these are on the : boot path, so we can typically wait until the kernel's up and we can use : some "real real" drivers. 8) Well, I have seen boards that support booting off pccard devices..

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-22 Thread Mike Smith
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike Smith writes: > : > a larger issue. It is not the loader's job to detect the underlying > : > hardware configuration. > : > : Actually, in a broad fashion, it _is_. This is why the loader > : understands PCI and PnP, for example. > > How hard would it be t

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-21 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike Smith writes: : > a larger issue. It is not the loader's job to detect the underlying : > hardware configuration. : : Actually, in a broad fashion, it _is_. This is why the loader : understands PCI and PnP, for example. How hard would it be to add usb and pc

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-19 Thread Martin Cracauer
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Luoqi Chen wrote: > > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Luoqi Chen wrote: > > > It is not the loader's job to detect the underlying > > > hardware configuration. > > > > I disagree. I would like to tell which machine I am booting on to > > choose an appropriate kernel. > > > Eve

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-18 Thread Luoqi Chen
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Luoqi Chen wrote: > > It is not the loader's job to detect the underlying > > hardware configuration. > > I disagree. I would like to tell which machine I am booting on to > choose an appropriate kernel. > Eventually (it may take a while) we should be able to boot any

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-13 Thread Mike Smith
> > > a larger issue. It is not the loader's job to detect the underlying > > > hardware configuration. > > > > Actually, in a broad fashion, it _is_. This is why the loader > > understands PCI and PnP, for example. > > > Why do we want to do that? Are we going to offload device probe routines

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-13 Thread Luoqi Chen
> > a larger issue. It is not the loader's job to detect the underlying > > hardware configuration. > > Actually, in a broad fashion, it _is_. This is why the loader > understands PCI and PnP, for example. > Why do we want to do that? Are we going to offload device probe routines to the loader

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-13 Thread Mike Smith
> a larger issue. It is not the loader's job to detect the underlying > hardware configuration. Actually, in a broad fashion, it _is_. This is why the loader understands PCI and PnP, for example. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn h

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-13 Thread Luoqi Chen
> Given the way VMware works, I'd have nothing against making it a FICL > words, except... > > ...VMware is a port. For some reason, I dislike the idea of having > support targetted at exclusively one specific port. Though we have > features added specifically to deal w

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-11 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 10:47 AM -0700 6/11/00, Mike Smith wrote: >It's not a port, it's a platform. We probably want to add extra >words to detect other platform features, eg. i386, alpha, ia64, >etc. but that doesn't invalidate the basic idea. For instance, I might be running the vmware pr

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-11 Thread Mike Smith
> Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > ...VMware is a port. For some reason, I dislike the idea of having > > > support targetted at exclusively one specific port. Though we have > > > features added specifically to deal with certain ports, they were all > > &g

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-11 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Mike Smith wrote: > > > ...VMware is a port. For some reason, I dislike the idea of having > > support targetted at exclusively one specific port. Though we have > > features added specifically to deal with certain ports, they were all > > more generic features. &

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-11 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Peter Wemm wrote: > > > 2) Add the VMware detecting to FICL, as originally suggested. > > Why make #2 vmware specific? Why not set $emulation to native,vmware,bochs, > etc. This is applicable to any platform that may have some sort of emulator. > Putting it in an environ

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-11 Thread Mike Smith
> Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > VMware intercepts the inb/outb instruction to port 0x5658 when the eax > > > register is set to a magic value, otherwise it would be handled as any > > > other ports. > > > > I think, again, that adding an i386-speci

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-11 Thread Peter Wemm
"Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: > Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > VMware intercepts the inb/outb instruction to port 0x5658 when the eax > > > register is set to a magic value, otherwise it would be handled as any > > > other ports. > > > > I th

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-11 Thread Louis A. Mamakos
> Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > VMware intercepts the inb/outb instruction to port 0x5658 when the eax > > > register is set to a magic value, otherwise it would be handled as any > > > other ports. > > > > I think, again, that adding an i386-speci

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-11 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Mike Smith wrote: > > > VMware intercepts the inb/outb instruction to port 0x5658 when the eax > > register is set to a magic value, otherwise it would be handled as any > > other ports. > > I think, again, that adding an i386-specific word that detects the > pre

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-10 Thread Mike Smith
> > As for setting registers ti specific values... huh? Why does this > > matter? Can you explain exactly what your code does and how? > > > VMware intercepts the inb/outb instruction to port 0x5658 when the eax > register is set to a magic value, otherwise it would b

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-10 Thread Luoqi Chen
> As for setting registers ti specific values... huh? Why does this > matter? Can you explain exactly what your code does and how? > VMware intercepts the inb/outb instruction to port 0x5658 when the eax register is set to a magic value, otherwise it would be handled as any other po

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-10 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Luoqi Chen wrote: > > > We have inb and outb. Can't vmware be written in Forth? If inl cannot be > > replaced with inb, I'd rather add inl than vmware. > But we can't set registers to specific values before inb/outb, which also > means our inb/outb are quite

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-10 Thread Luoqi Chen
> We have inb and outb. Can't vmware be written in Forth? If inl cannot be > replaced with inb, I'd rather add inl than vmware. > But we can't set registers to specific values before inb/outb, which also means our inb/outb are quite useless in making BIOS calls. >

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-09 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Luoqi Chen wrote: > > Would anyone object if I add a ficl word to detect whether we're booting > from a vmware virtual machine? I find it extremely useful when I'm running > FreeBSD as a guest under NT. Because it is a dual cpu box, I can't use a > single kernel t

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-09 Thread Jeroen C. van Gelderen
Peter Wemm wrote: > > Christopher Masto wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 01:14:35PM -0400, Jeroen C. van Gelderen wrote: > > > I'm not sure it is a good idea to name this variable VMWare as > > > that is implementation specific. It may be better to have a

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-09 Thread Peter Wemm
Christopher Masto wrote: > On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 01:14:35PM -0400, Jeroen C. van Gelderen wrote: > > I'm not sure it is a good idea to name this variable VMWare as > > that is implementation specific. It may be better to have a var > > named 'emulation' set

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-09 Thread Christopher Masto
> > extern void ficlOutb(FICL_VM *pVM); > > extern void ficlInb(FICL_VM *pVM); I'm an idiot. -- Christopher Masto Senior Network Monkey NetMonger Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.netmonger.net Free yourself, free your machine, free the d

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-09 Thread Christopher Masto
On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 01:14:35PM -0400, Jeroen C. van Gelderen wrote: > I'm not sure it is a good idea to name this variable VMWare as > that is implementation specific. It may be better to have a var > named 'emulation' set to 'none' or 'vmware' o

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-09 Thread Jeroen C. van Gelderen
Luoqi Chen wrote: > > Would anyone object if I add a ficl word to detect whether we're booting > from a vmware virtual machine? I find it extremely useful when I'm running > FreeBSD as a guest under NT. Because it is a dual cpu box, I can't use a > single kernel t

Re: VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-09 Thread Mike Smith
> Would anyone object if I add a ficl word to detect whether we're booting > from a vmware virtual machine? Sounds good to me! -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \\ and he'l

VMware detection code in boot loader

2000-06-09 Thread Luoqi Chen
Would anyone object if I add a ficl word to detect whether we're booting from a vmware virtual machine? I find it extremely useful when I'm running FreeBSD as a guest under NT. Because it is a dual cpu box, I can't use a single kernel to boot both directly or inside the virtual mac

vmware

2000-06-06 Thread Chuck Robey
guess I can understand the large number of silo overflows. I noticed that I can't seem to get any mails when I have vmware working, and I wish that wasn't so. The part that really worries me, tho, is the virtual memory warning. I was doing a lot of Windows software installation (w

Re: VMWare 2.0R broken - linux ioctl(13, 1260, *) not implemented

2000-03-05 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Mar 05, 2000 at 01:35:27PM +, Nick Sayer wrote: > Ah! I found it! > > --- linux_ioctl.h.orig Mon Feb 28 11:50:23 2000 > +++ linux_ioctl.h Mon Feb 28 11:24:08 2000 > @@ -32,6 +32,25 @@ > #define_LINUX_IOCTL_H_ This patch is fubar'ed. Your mailer wrapped lines and tur

Re: VMWare 2.0R broken - linux ioctl(13, 1260, *) not implemented

2000-03-05 Thread Nick Sayer
Ah! I found it! --- linux_ioctl.h.orig Mon Feb 28 11:50:23 2000 +++ linux_ioctl.h Mon Feb 28 11:24:08 2000 @@ -32,6 +32,25 @@ #define_LINUX_IOCTL_H_ /* + * disk + */ +#define LINUX_BLKROSET 0x125d +#define LINUX_BLKROGET 0x125e +#define LINUX_BLKRRPART

Re: VMWare 2.0R broken - linux ioctl(13, 1260, *) not implemented

2000-03-05 Thread Nick Sayer
Andrew Atrens wrote: > > A missing (not implemented) linux ioctl is breaking VMWare 2.0 - > > > linux: 'ioctl' fd=13, cmd=1260 ('^R',96) not implemented I implemented this ioctl. It's not as hard as you think. You do a DIOCGDINFO and return d_secperuni

Re: VMWare 2.0R broken - linux ioctl(13, 1260, *) not implemented

2000-03-05 Thread Tatsumi Hosokawa
At Sun, 5 Mar 2000 01:32:39 -0500 (EST), Andrew Atrens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A missing (not implemented) linux ioctl is breaking VMWare 2.0 - > > > linux: 'ioctl' fd=13, cmd=1260 ('^R',96) not implemented > > > After rummaging

VMWare 2.0R broken - linux ioctl(13, 1260, *) not implemented

2000-03-04 Thread Andrew Atrens
A missing (not implemented) linux ioctl is breaking VMWare 2.0 - > linux: 'ioctl' fd=13, cmd=1260 ('^R',96) not implemented After rummaging around in the 2.3 kernel, I found the following in `linux/include/linux/fs.h': /* the read-only stuff doesn't really be

vmware stopped working?

2000-03-03 Thread David Gilbert
I just cvsup'd today (and I did also recompile the vmware modules, just in case)... and the vmware binary started failing with the message: [2:18:318]dgilbert@strike:/u7/dgilbert/vmware/FreeBSD> vmware (USER) Dictionary_Create: unable to allocate memoryPanic without a VM Segmentation fa

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