Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 06:44:28PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Do you know who Boris is? checked a FreeBSD site - he is a listed as a developer. but how does it compare to what i said about logo of main webpage and improving website. What I can gather from this thread is that he, as a developer, might possibly have the right to speak on behalf of FreeBSD in regards to a sponsorship offer. On the other hand, you, who are neither a developer nor a core team member, do not. Not only that, the information is his reply is both polite and accurate where yours is not. From Boris's e-mail: All financial contributors for the last three years are listed here: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/sponsors.shtml Your reply to that was: they request small logo/advert on main webpage. that's the difference. And, of course, after rechecking the important bit from the original message: What we ask for in return for our sponsorships is a short mentioning on the site somewhere with a link to our website. It's obvious you misinterpreted it. They ask for a short mentioning **on the site somewhere** which is in no way, shape, or form the same thing as on the main webpage. In another reply in this thread you replied to someone saying: again - this is your opinion. and IMHO resulting from you replying faster than reading and understanding. You might want to go back and reread the original sponsorship offer post. It sounds like you are the one replying faster than you are reading or understanding. -- Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes. Longum iter est per praecepta, breve et efficax per exempla!!! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
interrupt storm on irq 10
I purchased a NetGear WPN511 cardbus wireless adapter (atheros chipset) yesterday. The card uses irq 10, as does the firewire port and ethernet port (fxp0) on my Dell Inspiron 8100. The laptop is running FreeBSD 7.2 Release (generic kernel). When I bootup the laptop with the wireless adapter in the cardbus slot, I see messages regarding interrupt storm detected throttling interrupt source. This did not occur prior to adding the wireless adapter. If I insert the wireless adapter after bootup, I don't see the messages on the console or as dmesg output. Otherwise, the adapter works fine. Are interrupt storms a problem? Do I need to worry about them? If so, is there anything I can do about them? Thanks, Andrew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fwd: Patching? Probably a trivial question, but...
Kurt Buff wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:51, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote: Can you post the patch, and I'll test it out here? (Forgive me if you've done this and I missed it). Steve Sent off-list. Ok, got it. I'm pretty much taking an easy day today to recover my broken -STABLE ZFS system, so while I'm in discussion/learning about ZFS recovery in regards to that problem, I'll give the patch a try on a couple of VMs and see if I can help. Steve smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Fwd: Patching? Probably a trivial question, but...
Kurt Buff wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:51, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote: Can you post the patch, and I'll test it out here? (Forgive me if you've done this and I missed it). Steve Sent off-list. Kurt, can you please provide: # uname -a - the default tag you use in your ports supfile, and the last time you 'sup'd the ports tree Steve smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Fwd: Patching? Probably a trivial question, but...
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:02, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote: Kurt Buff wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:51, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote: Can you post the patch, and I'll test it out here? (Forgive me if you've done this and I missed it). Steve Sent off-list. Kurt, can you please provide: # uname -a - the default tag you use in your ports supfile, and the last time you 'sup'd the ports tree Steve I csup'ed on May 13, if my examination of the file system is accurate - I noted the date on the relevant file in /usr/ports/distfiles. #uname -a FreeBSD squid.mycompany.com 7.0-STABLE FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #0: Mon Jun 30 17:27:53 PDT 2008 r...@squid.mycompany.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Contents of supfile: *default host=cvsup8.FreeBSD.org *default prefix=/usr *default base=/var/db *default release=cvs *default delete *default use-rel-suffix src-all tag=RELENG_7 ports-all tag=. doc-all tag=. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Formatted text conversion
On Wednesday 27 May 2009 17:41:56 Kelly Jones wrote: I have e-books in several formats (DOC, LIT, PDF, RTF, HTML, TXT, etc). Is there a Unix command-line tool that converts between these formats? If not, is there at least a tool that converts these formats to TXT? My goal is to read these books on my Kindle, even if it means losing some formatting/bells/whistles. There isn't a one-for-all that I know of. Doc (if that's MS Word) and Lit are probably the hardest to find for command line, especially one that recognizes versions. For the rest, check out print (for PDF mostly), converters and textproc category. There are a few available to you and best you check for yourself what features you need (I suppose batch processing). grep -i rtf /usr/ports/$category/*/pkg-descr does wonders for a quick overview. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fwd: Patching? Probably a trivial question, but...
Kurt Buff wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:02, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote: Kurt Buff wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:51, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote: Can you post the patch, and I'll test it out here? (Forgive me if you've done this and I missed it). Steve Sent off-list. Kurt, can you please provide: # uname -a - the default tag you use in your ports supfile, and the last time you 'sup'd the ports tree Steve I csup'ed on May 13, if my examination of the file system is accurate - I noted the date on the relevant file in /usr/ports/distfiles. #uname -a FreeBSD squid.mycompany.com 7.0-STABLE FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #0: Mon Jun 30 17:27:53 PDT 2008 r...@squid.mycompany.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Ok. I'm building on both a 7.0-RELEASE, and a 7.2-RELEASE box, with ports updated to nearly the same spec as yours. Unfortunately, due to the racking overhaul we're doing in the datacentre, my really good build boxes are shut down, so it's going to take a bit longer ;) Steve smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
RE: Sponsoring FreeBSD
From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Wojciech Puchar Sent: 27 May 2009 05:57 PM To: Zbigniew Szalbot Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; utis...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD as usually - i speak for myself. and will keep it that way. Grrr... there are times when I think that freedom of speech is not such a good thing after all... Of course - ban it! Just my 2c... Snotty comments like this in a public forum, is exactly why I no longer use FreeBSD. Just about everything in these mailing lists turns into snotty flame wars... It's pathetic truth be told. Use it, don't use it, /care -- Chris. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Patching? Probably a trivial question, but...
On Wednesday 27 May 2009 17:21:42 Kurt Buff wrote: All, I've gotten a patch for a program in the ports tree from one of the authors of the program - not the port maintainer - to fix a small problem, but don't know how to install the updated port. I cd'ed into the /usr/ports/%CATEGORY%/%PROGRAM%/work/%PROGRAM-VERSION% directory, then performed 'patch patch-name' successfully, AFAICT. Then I did a make, but got no output. So - I'm obviously lacking clue here. Anyone have a spare set? Don't feel like reading the entire thread atm, but for reference: - Patches need to have relative paths, where the root of the path corresponds to the port's notion of $PATCH_WRKSRC - You can find out this directory by running: % make -C /usr/ports/category/portname -V PATCH_WRKSRC The default is $WRKSRC which is $WRKDIR/$DISTNAME by default. Example: % make -C /usr/ports/sysutils/nagios-statd -V PATCH_WRKSRC /stable/usr/obj/usr/ports/sysutils/nagios-statd/work/nagios-statd-3.12 - Patches are automatically applied if they reside in the port's notion of PATCHDIR and are named patch-* - You can find out this directory by running: %make -C /usr/ports/category/portname -V PATCHDIR The default is $.CURDIR/files. Example: % make -C /usr/ports/sysutils/nagios-statd -V PATCHDIR /usr/ports/sysutils/nagios-statd/files - In order to apply a new patch after you have previously gone past the patch stage (configure, build, install), either run make clean or: % rm $(make -C /usr/ports/category/portname -V PATCH_COOKIE) The above can cause problems, with the build. The normal course of action is to make clean. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: A FreeBSD program that rotates text
On Tue 26 May 2009 at 12:35:38 PDT Polytropon wrote: Dear list, I'm searching for a FreeBSD based means to align text in a circle, adjusted like in a sigulum. I've tried to find an option in OpenOffice, but failed. Can anyone name me a program that can be used to do so? It can even be LaTeX, or a painting program that lets me construct a sigulum, like this: http://www-e.uni-magdeburg.de/ruge/verschiedenes/medien-als-manipulatoren/otto.gif Text at the top should be adjustable with its bottom towards the inner of the circle, text at the circle's bottom hould be adjustable with the bottom to the outer perimeter of the circle so both text is standing up. A pictural figure should be placable in the inner of the circle. Colours should be applyable. Final output can be everything: Image formats like PNG or JPG, PDF files, Postscript. Suggestions, anyone? =^_^= Why not use Postscript (ghostscript) for this? I did a quick google for postscript circular text and this was the first hit: http://www.science.uva.nl/~robbert/ps/bluebook/program_10.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD
On 2009-May-27 09:47:24 +0200, Stephan Lichtenauer fbsdli...@honeyguide.net wrote: Acer Aspire ONE. I haven't got comments from these lists about that I have the SSD version and everything except the webcam and suspend/ resume works out of the box. What FreeBSD version are you using? FreeBSD 8-current. -- Peter Jeremy pgpQX2rJtVXZY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD Software RAID
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:52:33AM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: On Wednesday 27 May 2009 11:40:51 am Wojciech Puchar wrote: you talk about performance or if it work at all? Both, really. If they have to code up macros to support identical operations (such as addition) on both platforms, and accidentally forget to use the macro in some place, then voila: untested code. I haven't looked at the ZFS code but this sort of thing is exactly why all code I write uses int8_t, int16_t, int32_t, uint8_t, ... even when the first thing I have to do with a new compiler is to work out the proper typedefs to create them. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: interrupt storm on irq 10
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:51:45PM -0500, Andrew Gould wrote: [...] Are interrupt storms a problem? Do I need to worry about them? If so, is there anything I can do about them? Have run across interrupt storms for the first time myself last night. Am thinking they are from interrupt sources that interrupt handlers do not fully support. So the interrupt is not being serviced and is repeatedly being invoked. Probably PCI doesn't behave the same as much simpler embedded hardware that I am used to, but the above is what an interrupt storm looks like on simple embedded hardware. My source of interrupt storms was caused by a bad SATA cable. Installed a new VIA 6421-based SATA card (selected because it was only $15) and two new hard drives for the purpose of copying files off two older drives. New drives were detected but ad4 did not work when ad6 did. Swapped drives and the other drive on ad6 worked. Thought the card was bad but decided to try swapping cables which fixed ad4 and broke ad6. Ergo, bad cable. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Formatted text conversion
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 08:41:56AM -0700, Kelly Jones wrote: I have e-books in several formats (DOC, LIT, PDF, RTF, HTML, TXT, etc). Is there a Unix command-line tool that converts between these formats? Not a single tool. Although some conversions are possible using different tools. Applications are listed as available under /usr/ports unless stated otherwise. Ports that are marked with * are those that I've used with reasonable results myself. RTF - HTML: textproc/rtf2html or textproc/unrtf TXT - HTML: I've used a simple perl script to do this in the past, but I guess the textproc/txt2html does something similar. TXT - PDF: print/nenscript or print/enscript-letter to make postscript files from text, then ps2pdf from print/ghostscript8 to create PDF from the postscript files. * PDF - HTML: pdftohtml from graphics/poppler-utils * HTML -PDF: Firefox supports printing to a PDF file. It seems LIT files are based on MS' CHM format. Maybe textproc/chm2pdf will convert them to pdf? There is an open-source tool for e-books (LIT format, among others): http://calibre.kovidgoyal.net/ It is not available via ports though. If not, is there at least a tool that converts these formats to TXT? DOC - TXT: textproc/antiword * HTML - TXT: textproc/html2text PDF - TXT: pdftotext from graphics/poppler-utils * Roland P.S. A lot of public domain e-books are available in different formats via Project Gutenberg [http://www.gutenberg.org] -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgppH8yUbyHzn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)
mainstream, or because i have opinion at all, i just respond normally. Wojtek - I also think you have the capacity to help and you often do. But don't pretend to be speaking for the FreeBSD team because you are doing reread my posts. i didn't speak for them and i said that i'm not them. i AS USUAL tell what i think. And YOU just don't accept this because it's completely different point of view than yours. You - like most people - react with fear/aggression when hearing/reading something completely agains the knowledge you've been put to the brain for years. Who is right doesn't matter at all that cases. I understand this because is natural reaction, often not fully conscious. As you - and few other people - can not use arguments just attacks, it make the list polluted. And - back to that funny sponsor - I can only do favour sending them out. Can't you see it's semi-automatic posts to whatever he found, because he just want to advertise yourself and his webpage improvement services? (improvement==adding tons of flash, javas...t etc.) He wanted his banner on FreeBSD site for 100$ Or maybe i'm wrong - if so, please Core Team to put our little company's link on my page and i will send 100$ today. Don't forget to give me account number. Even more - i will find 10 friends to do the same. Just 10 links with small letters ;) and 1000$ is yours. The trick of doing ANY business, and non-profit work is to NOT TAKE EVERY CRAP, just because you see money. I'm sure you already know it in your business, so why can't you see this here? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Sponsoring FreeBSD
Of course - ban it! Just my 2c... Snotty comments like this in a public forum, is exactly why I no longer use FreeBSD. Just about everything in these mailing lists turns If you stopped using FreeBSD BECAUSE OF FORUM, congratulations ;) This means that OS functionality is not important for you at all! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Software RAID
I haven't looked at the ZFS code but this sort of thing is exactly why all code I write uses int8_t, int16_t, int32_t, uint8_t, ... even when the first thing I have to do with a new compiler is to work out the proper typedefs to create them. int, short and char are portable, only other things must be defined this way. int8_t int16_t is just unneeded work. anyway - it's just defines, having no effect on compiled code and it's performance. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to detect when gmirror sync is complete?
On Tuesday 26 May 2009 22:33:54 Peter Steele wrote: I know I could have a script that continually checks gmirror status to detect when a gmirror synchronization has completed, but is there a more event-driven approach? Something that could be used to trigger and event like devd does for drive pulls/inserts would be nice. Is this possible? Doesn't look like gmirror notifies devd. Look at devctl_notify examples[1] in the source tree to add it, where the hard part is figuring out when a gmirror sync is complete. Or you can file a PR requesting the feature, I'm sure you're not alone. [1] Prototype: sys/bus.h, example: sys/dev/acpica/acpi.c. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Patching? Probably a trivial question, but...
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:36, Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Wednesday 27 May 2009 17:21:42 Kurt Buff wrote: All, I've gotten a patch for a program in the ports tree from one of the authors of the program - not the port maintainer - to fix a small problem, but don't know how to install the updated port. I cd'ed into the /usr/ports/%CATEGORY%/%PROGRAM%/work/%PROGRAM-VERSION% directory, then performed 'patch patch-name' successfully, AFAICT. Then I did a make, but got no output. So - I'm obviously lacking clue here. Anyone have a spare set? Don't feel like reading the entire thread atm, but for reference: - Patches need to have relative paths, where the root of the path corresponds to the port's notion of $PATCH_WRKSRC - You can find out this directory by running: % make -C /usr/ports/category/portname -V PATCH_WRKSRC The default is $WRKSRC which is $WRKDIR/$DISTNAME by default. Example: % make -C /usr/ports/sysutils/nagios-statd -V PATCH_WRKSRC /stable/usr/obj/usr/ports/sysutils/nagios-statd/work/nagios-statd-3.12 - Patches are automatically applied if they reside in the port's notion of PATCHDIR and are named patch-* - You can find out this directory by running: %make -C /usr/ports/category/portname -V PATCHDIR The default is $.CURDIR/files. Example: % make -C /usr/ports/sysutils/nagios-statd -V PATCHDIR /usr/ports/sysutils/nagios-statd/files - In order to apply a new patch after you have previously gone past the patch stage (configure, build, install), either run make clean or: % rm $(make -C /usr/ports/category/portname -V PATCH_COOKIE) The above can cause problems, with the build. The normal course of action is to make clean. Excellent. I will be trying this tomorrow - I'm leaving work early today to get some things taken care of. Many thanks for this. Kurt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: interrupt storm on irq 10
My source of interrupt storms was caused by a bad SATA cable. Installed a new VIA 6421-based SATA card (selected because it was only $15) and two new hard drives for the purpose of copying files off two older drives. New drives were detected but ad4 did not work when ad6 did. Swapped drives and the other drive on ad6 worked. Thought the card was bad but decided to try swapping cables which fixed ad4 and broke ad6. Ergo, bad cable. anyway very strange controller reaction to that case. i can hardly believe the way cable have to be broken to produce interrupt storm. maybe this way: controller sends message to drive, bad cable causes CRC errors, hard drive reacts with some message for that, interrupt is generated, driver in case of detected transmission problem instantly resends last commands, situation repeats. But it's contrary to what you said that interrupt storm are lots of interrupts that are not serviced by any driver. I'm not telling that you are wrong that cable produced this, but i can't find any explanation for that. any idea? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Broadcom NetXtreme II BCM5709 Gigabit Ethernet Dell 610 and Dell 710 servers
On Tuesday 26 May 2009 02:08:38 Paul Schmehl wrote: --On May 25, 2009 4:02:57 PM -0700 Carlos Pardo cpa...@fastsoft.com wrote: We are back porting the bce driver from 8.0 to 7.0. We are still missing some changes since cold boots work but rebooting (warm booting) fails! The error is: bce0: ../../../dev/bce/if_bce.c(1386); Unable to write CTX memory: cid_addr = 0x, offset = 0x! files back ported: bce/if_bce.h bce/if_bcefw.h bce/if_bvereg.h mii/brgphy.c mii/brgphyreg.h Why would you need to do that? There is a bce driver in the 7.x OS already. Cause it's unstable? Search these or many other archives. The short answer: under IO load the card drops net link or panics kernel. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Streaming server
On Monday 25 May 2009 15:41:04 Jos Chrispijn wrote: I have some short movies (a la YouTube) that I would like to show as video streams. Presenting them by download is messing up my bandwidth (...). Can someone tell me if there is a simple solution installing such a stream service/server into FreeBDS 7.2? Err, this thread is very long...can we blame our snuggle Pole or did no one mention convert to ogg-theora and install audio/ices2+audio/icecast2. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Broadcom NetXtreme II BCM5709 Gigabit Ethernet Dell 610 and Dell 710 servers
Why would you need to do that? There is a bce driver in the 7.x OS already. Cause it's unstable? Search these or many other archives. The short answer: under IO load the card drops net link or panics kernel. is it any recipe to trigger that behaviour? i have that card (builtin) on loaded server with 2 months uptime and with quite lot of traffic going through that card. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Streaming server
stream service/server into FreeBDS 7.2? Err, this thread is very long...can we blame our snuggle Pole or did no one mention convert to ogg-theora and install audio/ices2+audio/icecast2. but is it for video? seems like sound broadcast ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: Of course - ban it! Just my 2c... Snotty comments like this in a public forum, is exactly why I no longer use FreeBSD. Just about everything in these mailing lists turns If you stopped using FreeBSD BECAUSE OF FORUM, congratulations ;) This means that OS functionality is not important for you at all! Well, that certainly doesn't follow. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to detect when gmirror sync is complete?
Hi, Peter On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Peter Steele pste...@webmail.maxiscale.com wrote: I know I could have a script that continually checks gmirror status to detect when a gmirror synchronization has completed, but is there a more event-driven approach? Something that could be used to trigger and event like devd does for drive pulls/inserts would be nice. Is this possible? If, by chance you use Nagios, there is the net-mgmt/nagios-geom-1.3 port that detects degraded arrays and (as with the rest of Nagios tools) will auto-alert when there is a problem (and when the problem has recovered). -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: turning [x]html files into .odt files.
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 05:21:26PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote: 2009/5/26 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org: [[ ... ]] In a few days, I'll have a fair bit of spare time. I can make a port then, if no-one more experienced wants to snap it up. Like your Jottings, by the way. Well THANKS! First time I've been honored by someone from this list on my mumblings:) (Should be done within two years.) Back to the OOo and the italics and the ldquo; and rdquo; stuff. A fellow, BillP on one of the ooforums gave the following snippet to italicize *this* : Click at the beginning of the doucment then use Find Replace. Check Regular Expressions. Search For: \*([^\*]*)\* Replace With: $1 Select Format Font Italic for the Replace With box. Click Replace All. This simple regex incantation worked flawwlessly. But BillP's instructions to the and into opening and closing quotes failed. He said to pull down Tools - AutoCorrect. --let me see if i can cut/paste. nope, but lynx -dump works. Originally this was better formatted in a smaller typeface: You can replace the quotes with custom quotes using Format AutoCorrect Apply, but don't don't do that until you check the AutoCorrect Options. Select Tools AutoCorrect Options. On the Options pane, uncheck any options under the [M] column which you don't want applied. On the Custom Quotes pane, enable the replacement of quotes and close the AutoCorrect dialog. Apply the Default paragraph style to all paragraphs with quotes (AutoCorrect only works on paragraphs with the Default style). Select Format Autocorrect Apply. After Autocorrect finishes, the affected paragraphs will have the Text Body paragraph style, so you will have to change them if you want some other paragraph style. The first three indented points were clear enough. There were several [M]-column items that I unchecked. I did check both the single- and double-quote typeset-looking glyphs. Wasn't sure about the Apply the Default paragraph style pointer and wound up trying for several hours until my arm/shoulder almost fell off. Maybe somebody who has time can use vi/nvi/vim to type Hello. Or, more simply, create testfile with OOo and type Hello. try the above instructions. See if the plain and are turned into left-/right-quotes. O/wise, waiting a few days: n. p. Meanwhile I found one paragraph in my novel that need some work. It's over 150K words of action/adventure, and there's this one snafu. gary Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 4.91a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
no longer use FreeBSD. Just about everything in these mailing lists turns If you stopped using FreeBSD BECAUSE OF FORUM, congratulations ;) This means that OS functionality is not important for you at all! Well, that certainly doesn't follow. exactly does. i just don't catch why he - while stopping using it because of forum - still read and posts here. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Broadcom NetXtreme II BCM5709 Gigabit Ethernet Dell 610 and Dell 710 servers
On Wednesday 27 May 2009 21:37:47 Wojciech Puchar wrote: Why would you need to do that? There is a bce driver in the 7.x OS already. Cause it's unstable? Search these or many other archives. The short answer: under IO load the card drops net link or panics kernel. is it any recipe to trigger that behaviour? i have that card (builtin) on loaded server with 2 months uptime and with quite lot of traffic going through that card. Don't have local archives handy, but here ya go: http://www.google.com/search?hl=ensafe=offclient=operarls=enhs=H9jnum=30q=bce+problem+freebsd+site%3Alists.freebsd.orgbtnG=Search -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Broadcom NetXtreme II BCM5709 Gigabit Ethernet Dell 610 and Dell 710 servers
loaded server with 2 months uptime and with quite lot of traffic going through that card. Don't have local archives handy, but here ya go: http://www.google.com/search?hl=ensafe=offclient=operarls=enhs=H9jnum=30q=bce+problem+freebsd+site%3Alists.freebsd.orgbtnG=Search -- Mel tomorrow i will try to reproduce this on my server to check if it happens in my setup being in-place not remote. maybe i was just lucky to not experience this for 2 months since i started that server up. Thank you very much! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Streaming server
but is it for video? seems like sound broadcast It doesn't care what's inside the ogg container: http://www.theora.org/benefits/ good. i was suggested by /usr/ports/audio/ anyway for just playing static video/audio files on user request it's just exaggeration. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Software RAID
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:24:17PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: I haven't looked at the ZFS code but this sort of thing is exactly why all code I write uses int8_t, int16_t, int32_t, uint8_t, ... even when the first thing I have to do with a new compiler is to work out the proper typedefs to create them. int, short and char are portable, only other things must be defined this way. No, they are not portable. int is 16 bits on many systems I work with. char is sometimes signed, sometimes not. uint8_t is never signed and always unambiguous. int8_t int16_t is just unneeded work. anyway - it's just defines, having no effect on compiled code and it's performance. No, they are not just defines, I said typedef. Typedef is subject to stricter checking by the compiler. Packing and alignment in structs is a big portability problem. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
exactly does. i just don't catch why he - while stopping using it because of forum - still read and posts here. None of your concern: this is just what everybody is writing about. Whether someone is using FreeBSD or not, and reading here or not, is irrelevant to most (and probably to all) discussions going on here, and it is my understanding (and my opinion, which is different than yours on this matter I suspect) that your commenting on this is mostly unappreciated. Yes it's different. Again forum is important but it's completely secondary thing to what product (FreeBSD that case) offers. I too consider forum not very good, and i opted to create fully-moderated version that will strictly be moderated to keep topics only related to: - FreeBSD base system - ports as subsystem but not ported programs, as these programs have their own forums. This will solve all problems from both point of views. For example it would eliminate advertise/sponsoring offer and my response to this. and millions other problems. Of course unmoderated mailing list should be left as is. I swear i will not use it that case, cause it will not make any use of it for me. And ALL will be happy. Back to FreeBSD, i use it because it's (for me) best unix system available in the world, closest to what unix should be. And i do need unix system. Forum quality is secondary thing. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: interrupt storm on irq 10
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:30:19PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: I'm not telling that you are wrong that cable produced this, but i can't find any explanation for that. One two-port controller card, two drives, two cables. Interrupt storms move from one port to the other with the suspect cable no matter which drive is connected to that cable, no matter which port it is connected to. Two supposedly identical SATA cables purchased together. Will purchase new cables to try tonight. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Software RAID
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:24:17PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: I haven't looked at the ZFS code but this sort of thing is exactly why all code I write uses int8_t, int16_t, int32_t, uint8_t, ... even when the first thing I have to do with a new compiler is to work out the proper typedefs to create them. int, short and char are portable, Not completely, at least as far as C is concerned. I'd say that char and long are portable, but not short and int. According to KR (and I don't think this has changed in later standards), a char is defined as one byte. Short, int and long can vary but short and int must be at least 16 bits, and a long must be at least 32 bits. Additionally a short may not be longer than an int which may not be longer than a long. But the size of an int depends on hardware platform and compiler data model. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgp4s0ze2UDGA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail
On Monday 25 May 2009 13:53:40 Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: Hello, Hello all , I want to install a Mail Server with Webmail, Anybody to know a good Stable Mail Server and Web Mail I recommend the following step-by-step instructions: http://www.purplehat.org/?page_id=4 It's a detailed how-to but consider the following: a) With Oracle acquiring Sun, one should move to PostgreSQL where ever possible. b) Spam Assassin is a resource hog, use mail/dspam. c) While postfix-admin is ok for one box setup, it doesn't scale at all - you'll have to install it for every physical machine to manage that specific database for that box. I know of no alternatives, hence I'm rolling my own. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Another uptime story
On Wed, 27 May 2009 09:02:08 -0500, Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: You could write a script that sends uptime output and a start/stop flag to a database when the system starts and stops. This wouldn't account for improper shutdowns, although you could tell when a stop date/time was missing. I've used a similar (but more easily designed) approach to have a file /var/log/activity.log. This, of course, doesn't apply for servers that run day by day, but for systems that are powered off when not in use. Simple thing, just a formatted date and uptime into a text file, run by rc.local and rc.shutdown.local. My best time with FreeBSD 7 system: 2008-12-14 00:27:42 - 2008-12-20 03:41:44 - 6 days, 3:14, 0 users And FreeBSD 5: 2007-02-23 04:54:07 - 2007-03-06 02:14:46 - 10 days, 21:21, 1 user That's not the majority of entries, most of them are just a few hours. Keep in mind that it is NOT a server - these lines would look terrible if it would. :-) If you also documented the installation date/time of various components, you could also track their lives separately. At least their live IN USE. In many cases, it's no problem to use a hard disk or a optical disc drive longer than the period it is utilized in the server - it doesn't break when you switch to a newer system. Erm sorry, I forgot the truth: It will of course break before this point in time; in fact, it will break when you need it most. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
2009/5/27 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl: exactly does. i just don't catch why he - while stopping using it because of forum - still read and posts here. None of your concern: this is just what everybody is writing about. Whether someone is using FreeBSD or not, and reading here or not, is irrelevant to most (and probably to all) discussions going on here, and it is my understanding (and my opinion, which is different than yours on this matter I suspect) that your commenting on this is mostly unappreciated. Yes it's different. Again forum is important but it's completely secondary thing to what product (FreeBSD that case) offers. I too consider forum not very good, and i opted to create fully-moderated version that will strictly be moderated to keep topics only related to: - FreeBSD base system - ports as subsystem but not ported programs, as these programs have their own forums. This will solve all problems from both point of views. For example it would eliminate advertise/sponsoring offer and my response to this. and millions other problems. Of course unmoderated mailing list should be left as is. I swear i will not use it that case, cause it will not make any use of it for me. And ALL will be happy. Back to FreeBSD, i use it because it's (for me) best unix system available in the world, closest to what unix should be. And i do need unix system. Forum quality is secondary thing. So if you only want base-system and ports discussed strictly, there's always ports@ and sta...@. This list is for helping people with any sort of questions. ANY questions. Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Streaming server
On Wednesday 27 May 2009 21:38:32 Wojciech Puchar wrote: stream service/server into FreeBDS 7.2? Err, this thread is very long...can we blame our snuggle Pole or did no one mention convert to ogg-theora and install audio/ices2+audio/icecast2. but is it for video? seems like sound broadcast It doesn't care what's inside the ogg container: http://www.theora.org/benefits/ (benefit nr. 2). -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
Wojciech Puchar wrote: no longer use FreeBSD. Just about everything in these mailing lists turns If you stopped using FreeBSD BECAUSE OF FORUM, congratulations ;) This means that OS functionality is not important for you at all! Well, that certainly doesn't follow. exactly does. i just don't catch why he - while stopping using it because of forum - still read and posts here. None of your concern: this is just what everybody is writing about. Whether someone is using FreeBSD or not, and reading here or not, is irrelevant to most (and probably to all) discussions going on here, and it is my understanding (and my opinion, which is different than yours on this matter I suspect) that your commenting on this is mostly unappreciated. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
On Wed, 27 May 2009 19:34:04 +0200 Chris Knipe sav...@savage.za.org wrote: Snotty comments like this in a public forum, is exactly why I no longer use FreeBSD. i really don't understand this. it would make sense for you to ignore the forum, but why take it out on the os? -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)
2009/5/27 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl: mainstream, or because i have opinion at all, i just respond normally. Wojtek - I also think you have the capacity to help and you often do. But don't pretend to be speaking for the FreeBSD team because you are doing reread my posts. i didn't speak for them and i said that i'm not them. i AS USUAL tell what i think. And YOU just don't accept this because it's completely different point of view than yours. You - like most people - react with fear/aggression when hearing/reading something completely agains the knowledge you've been put to the brain for years. Who is right doesn't matter at all that cases. I understand this because is natural reaction, often not fully conscious. As you - and few other people - can not use arguments just attacks, it make the list polluted. And - back to that funny sponsor - I can only do favour sending them out. Can't you see it's semi-automatic posts to whatever he found, because he just want to advertise yourself and his webpage improvement services? (improvement==adding tons of flash, javas...t etc.) He wanted his banner on FreeBSD site for 100$ Or maybe i'm wrong - if so, please Core Team to put our little company's link on my page and i will send 100$ today. Don't forget to give me account number. Even more - i will find 10 friends to do the same. Just 10 links with small letters ;) and 1000$ is yours. The trick of doing ANY business, and non-profit work is to NOT TAKE EVERY CRAP, just because you see money. I'm sure you already know it in your business, so why can't you see this here? But it's NOT YOUR BUSINESS. It also wasn't automated. Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
Wojciech Puchar wrote: exactly does. i just don't catch why he - while stopping using it because of forum - still read and posts here. None of your concern: this is just what everybody is writing about. Whether someone is using FreeBSD or not, and reading here or not, is irrelevant to most (and probably to all) discussions going on here, and it is my understanding (and my opinion, which is different than yours on this matter I suspect) that your commenting on this is mostly unappreciated. Yes it's different. Again forum is important but it's completely secondary thing to what product (FreeBSD that case) offers. No wait... I was merely commenting on your comment: exactly does. i just don't catch why he - while stopping using it because of forum - still read and posts here. I agree with the comments made that sometimes your writings are quite interesting (about the 32 vs 64 bit architectures for instance). All of the below is valid for this mailing list (thanks to Roger ;) ). I too consider forum not very good, and i opted to create fully-moderated version that will strictly be moderated to keep topics only related to: - FreeBSD base system - ports as subsystem but not ported programs, as these programs have their own forums. This will solve all problems from both point of views. For example it would eliminate advertise/sponsoring offer and my response to this. and millions other problems. Of course unmoderated mailing list should be left as is. I swear i will not use it that case, cause it will not make any use of it for me. And ALL will be happy. Back to FreeBSD, i use it because it's (for me) best unix system available in the world, closest to what unix should be. And i do need unix system. Until here... Forum quality is secondary thing. For you maybe, but some readers stop reading (and apparantly loose interest in FreeBSD as well) when the quality is poluted with flames, personal remarks, whatever distracts from the real issues that should be discussed here. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl writes: 1. Monthly sponsoring of around 50 to 100 USD (restore a quote Wojciech deletted intentionally) add two zeroes to this values then maybe FreeBSD core team will be interested. of course i can't speak of them, but i think so. No, any financial contributions are welcome. they request small logo/advert on main webpage. that's the difference. Please, stop it. I answered not to the OP's email but to your email with the qoutes you had done. There was nothing about logo, etc. at your email. That's the difference. WBR -- bsam ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Streaming server
On Wednesday 27 May 2009 21:59:58 Wojciech Puchar wrote: but is it for video? seems like sound broadcast It doesn't care what's inside the ogg container: http://www.theora.org/benefits/ good. i was suggested by /usr/ports/audio/ anyway for just playing static video/audio files on user request it's just exaggeration. I don't see what static content has got to do with it. OP wants a different delivery method. Just like you can download the static FreeBSD DVD via ftp/http or torrent. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
On 27/05/09 12:40 -0700, prad wrote: On Wed, 27 May 2009 19:34:04 +0200 Chris Knipe sav...@savage.za.org wrote: Snotty comments like this in a public forum, is exactly why I no longer use FreeBSD. i really don't understand this. it would make sense for you to ignore the forum, but why take it out on the os? Because it's here to support the OS, and the level of support relates -directly- to what I can expect here in terms of support of the OS, not even getting started on the LEVEL of support and the PROFESIONALISM of said support, or accuracy there of. Hell, I'm to scared to post and ask a question because of starting a 'flame war'. Perception is everything, and the IMAGE of FreeBSD that is created by this forum, is one of a minority bunch of toddlers, throwing their toys in a cot about each and every little thing that does not go the way they want it. This thread is a PERFECT example there of, but there are many, many, many threads that got COMPLETELY derailed because someone said the smallest little thing that annoyed someone else. GROW UP PEOPLE FFS. If you want the world to believe you have a mature OS, *ACT* like you have a mature OS... Why am I still here, replying, reading? Because, I'm INTERESTED. But that too, will more than likely start a completely different spin off and flame war and mass mails now, with questions like why am I interested and not using FreeBSD -- Chris. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Streaming server
I don't see what static content has got to do with it. OP wants a different delivery method. Just like you can download the static FreeBSD DVD via ftp/http or torrent. i said exaggeration, not wrong way. if there is a requirement to use THAT delivery method from client, you are absolutely right. But if someone just want to put some movies on his/her webpage, or maybe create youtube-like service, then storing with FTP/HTTP is just best. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)
On Wed 27 May 2009 at 09:44:03 PDT Glen Barber wrote: This is enough. I agree. It is characteristic of flamewars that the participants are no longer talking about anything except each other. It's entirely off-topic. I don't know which is more tiresome, Wojciech's edgy remarks or the constant carping about the way he expresses himself. Ad hominem: attacking the man (or his manner of speaking) rather than the substance of his statements. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
removing distfiles?
Hi Daemons, a short question: I can delete the .tar.gz files from /usr/ports/distfiles - is this correct? Not that some port tree management goes crazy (dependencies or such).. Thanks herb langhans ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
On Wed, 27 May 2009 22:30:01 +0200 Chris Knipe sav...@savage.za.org wrote: If you want the world to believe you have a mature OS, *ACT* like you have a mature OS... i think it is a good idea for people to act maturely on forums otherwise we stop communicating and start screammunicating. Why am I still here, replying, reading? Because, I'm INTERESTED. and that's probably the best reason for staying. i think different people have different 'visions' for freebsd and are passionately attached to their own. as long as they express their viewpoint maturely in accordance with proper forum etiquette there is room for the variety of visions. i think you, for instance, have just done so in this concerned and detailed post (that may be the second best reason for not leaving). you've addressed specific matters regarding the image of freebsd. whether others agree or disagree with you is not relevant so long as they 1) express themselves maturely 2) justify their viewpoint rationally -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
removing distfiles?
herbert langhans writes: I can delete the .tar.gz files from /usr/ports/distfiles - is this correct? Not that some port tree management goes crazy (dependencies or such).. If you want to be selective, try portsclean which is part of portupgrade(-*). Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
thread is a PERFECT example there of, but there are many, many, many threads that got COMPLETELY derailed because someone said the smallest little thing that annoyed someone else. GROW UP PEOPLE FFS. no matter what you think and what your opinion is, you will always find part of forum users to be what you said. It's natural with unmoderated forums! If you want the world to believe you have a mature OS, *ACT* like you have a mature OS... and it is. Why am I still here, replying, reading? Because, I'm INTERESTED. Me too. Very interested to be able to get help and give help about FreeBSD. Once again - please do moderated forum that posting rules will be - post ONLY about FreeBSD. FreeBSD == what is created by FreeBSD fundation and contributors. This means - base system+port system. And mean for example that: 1) I do want to switch from Windows to FreeBSD and install KDE. How to do it. Or maybe GNOME is better Moderator will delete this and reply for example Please use KDE/gnome forums for KDE/gnome support. Please read FreeBSD handbook about how to install it. After reading it, if you have problems with installation - ask on the forum 2) We offer sponsoring. Our rules are Moderator will delete this and forward that mail to those that cares of FreeBSD foundation's finances. 3) Is there a way to reduce the Vista to let's say 50 GByte and install FreeBSD -CURRENT in the remaining 200 GByte Moderator will delete this and reply: Please ask on any Windows Vista related forum about how to reduce windows partition without data loss. Then install FreeBSD as usual, creating slice on unused space. Please post if you will have troubles installing FreeBSD -- O N L Y S T R I C T R U L E S W I L L G I V E H I G H Q U A L I T Y Of course present forum must be left as is, so everyone feeling discriminated could post freely. This rules should be CLEARLY defined, so everybody that want use moderated forum will know it, and have to obey or not use it. I don't know much about any moderating mailing lists software, but maybe just use NNTP? Excellent software is already here, and using NNTP is as very simple. Strict rules are not just needed, it's a requirement or never-ending discussion will be common as each of us have different point of view. Every computer project (and every non-computer too :) without well defined rules and ownership is just destined to fall, sooner or later. FreeBSD has at least ownership, linux don't have both. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
UK Keyboard in 7.2 console and xorg
Hello, I have jsut loaded up 7.2, fetched the ports and installed xorg / fluxbox etc - for first time my kb / mouse didnt work in xorg but now I have that sorted with enabling hald etc However, I have noticed that the GBP symbol does not work? In console I get a beep, in xorg nothing. I have tried iso and cp850 keymaps Im sure I never came across this in previus version of FreeBSD. Can anyone give me a few pointers on how to resolve this? TIA! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Another uptime story
On Tue, 26 May 2009 23:14:10 -0400, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca said: S Just a little bit of sadness of having to 'down' it, given this uptime in S my relatively hostile environment. *sigh* I'll match your sigh and add some curse-words. One of our fileservers: date: Mon May 18 09:03:09 EDT 2009 uname: FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE #0 uptime: 9:03AM up 732 days, 11:36, 0 users Here's part of the output from vmstat -s. I like the name lookups: 1644362297 cpu context switches 1093285479 device interrupts 1789304683 software interrupts 3124531993 traps 3752497578 system calls 2443779332 pages examined by the page daemon 1221349376 copy-on-write faults 3820203746 zero fill pages zeroed 1406714307 zero fill pages prezeroed 1893555896 total VM faults taken 3652052770 pages affected by fork() 2853118974 pages freed by exiting processes -92074736 total name lookups cache hits (449% pos + -1238% neg) system -1854% per-directory deletions -18%, falsehits 0%, toolong 0% Then our halfwit UPS decided to have a hissyfit and knock down this system plus four others. Fortunately, our backup server stayed up: date: Wed May 27 16:45:10 EDT 2009 uname: FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0 uptime: 4:44PM up 595 days, 3:09, 1 user -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes (Translation: If you can read this, you're overeducated) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Another uptime story
On Wed, 27 May 2009 09:02:08 -0500, Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com said: A You could write a script that sends uptime output and a start/stop A flag to a database when the system starts and stops. This wouldn't A account for improper shutdowns, although you could tell when a stop A date/time was missing. I have a script which runs fping on a bunch of servers and writes a timestamp for any host that answers. It's run every minute from cron on our loghost. Another script watches the results and sends me an IM if any of my boxes fails to respond for 3 minutes. I can put up a tarball if anyone's interested. -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators. --P.J. O'Rourke, Parliament of Whores ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UK Keyboard in 7.2 console and xorg
I have jsut loaded up 7.2, fetched the ports and installed xorg / fluxbox etc - for first time my kb / mouse didnt work in xorg but now I have that sorted with enabling hald etc sorry if stupid question, but have xorg got radical changes within last months? I never needed hald to have keyboard and mouse under X working. it's all just matter of xorg.conf, and keyboard and mouse just need setting a type (like polish in my case). However, I have noticed that the GBP symbol does not work? In console I get a beep, in xorg nothing. I have tried iso and cp850 keymaps I can answer you in no-hald case. There are 2 things 1) If Xorg generate proper event when you press keyboard to get GBP symbol. You may check it with xev 2) If your fonts are set properly, and your xterm (or rxvt or whatever you use as a terminal) is configured properly so it will both accept and display it! about text mode console - i have this in my rc.conf: keymap=pl_PL.ISO8859-2 font8x14=iso02-8x14 font8x16=iso02-8x16 font8x8=iso02-8x8 to have fully working polish letters. You should have similar done for UK set. look at /usr/share/syscons/ to select proper items. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Another uptime story
date: Mon May 18 09:03:09 EDT 2009 uname: FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE #0 uptime: 9:03AM up 732 days, 11:36, 0 users Hardly possible in Poland. i can't imagine 2 years without power failures :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: removing distfiles?
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:43:51PM +0200, herbert langhans wrote: Hi Daemons, a short question: I can delete the .tar.gz files from /usr/ports/distfiles - is this correct? Sure. Not that some port tree management goes crazy (dependencies or such).. They won't. But they'll have to re-download relevent ones if you decide to rebuild a port. Using e.g. 'portmaster --clean-distfiles-all' only removes those distfiles that do not belong to installed ports. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpjXmAkZaDKj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Broadcom NetXtreme II BCM5709 Gigabit Ethernet Dell 610 and Dell 710 servers
--On Wednesday, May 27, 2009 14:32:30 -0500 Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Tuesday 26 May 2009 02:08:38 Paul Schmehl wrote: --On May 25, 2009 4:02:57 PM -0700 Carlos Pardo cpa...@fastsoft.com wrote: We are back porting the bce driver from 8.0 to 7.0. We are still missing some changes since cold boots work but rebooting (warm booting) fails! The error is: bce0: ../../../dev/bce/if_bce.c(1386); Unable to write CTX memory: cid_addr = 0x, offset = 0x! files back ported: bce/if_bce.h bce/if_bcefw.h bce/if_bvereg.h mii/brgphy.c mii/brgphyreg.h Why would you need to do that? There is a bce driver in the 7.x OS already. Cause it's unstable? Search these or many other archives. The short answer: under IO load the card drops net link or panics kernel. -- I have not experienced that. # uname -a FreeBSD mail.stovebolt.com 7.0-STABLE FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #3: Wed Jul 2 18:44:10 CDT 2008 r...@www2.stovebolt.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 # ifconfig bce0 bce0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500 options=1bbRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4 ether 00:13:72:fb:2a:ad inet 66.221.101.249 netmask 0xe000 broadcast 66.221.127.255 inet 66.221.101.251 netmask 0x broadcast 66.221.101.251 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex) status: active -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. *** Check the headers before clicking on Reply. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Is this a gmirror bug?
did you checked that partitions with fsck? (fsck_ffs -y) does it detects errors and fix them? after fsck is it ok or still nonsense in Used? Unfortunately I did not do the fsck. We have an automated reimaging process that lets me rebuild a system in less than five minutes so I decided for expediency to do this. If I see this happen again though, I'll run the fsck... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
2009/5/27 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl: thread is a PERFECT example there of, but there are many, many, many threads that got COMPLETELY derailed because someone said the smallest little thing that annoyed someone else. GROW UP PEOPLE FFS. no matter what you think and what your opinion is, you will always find part of forum users to be what you said. It's natural with unmoderated forums! If you want the world to believe you have a mature OS, *ACT* like you have a mature OS... and it is. Why am I still here, replying, reading? Because, I'm INTERESTED. Me too. Very interested to be able to get help and give help about FreeBSD. Once again - please do moderated forum that posting rules will be - post ONLY about FreeBSD. FreeBSD == what is created by FreeBSD fundation and contributors. This means - base system+port system. And mean for example that: But you're the troublemaker that needs shutting up. Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Streaming server
On Wednesday 27 May 2009 22:34:36 Wojciech Puchar wrote: I don't see what static content has got to do with it. OP wants a different delivery method. Just like you can download the static FreeBSD DVD via ftp/http or torrent. i said exaggeration, not wrong way. if there is a requirement to use THAT delivery method from client, you are absolutely right. But if someone just want to put some movies on his/her webpage, or maybe create youtube-like service, then storing with FTP/HTTP is just best. No, the keys are the size of the files and/or bandwidth available: - size matters? Yes, see pftop: DEST STATE AGE EXP PKTS BYTES 62.75.158.169:8020 4:4 05:03:05 23:59:59 380K 296M 5 hours of online radio and I downloaded 296Meg. I don't want that hitting my harddisk at all. And if I do, then I can always record it. - Bandwidth: This didn't interrupt noticeably with my work (ssh sessions) and other web use (port downloads, remote imap, webmail, smtp over ssh, etc) and I'm currently not using altq. That's just from client perspective. From server perspective, the bandwidth advantage should be clear. There's no real advantage to gain maintaining altq rules / mod_bandwidth / foo-solution or a streaming server, except if the former are already in place. Most important is to consider if your users want to save the file, cause a lot of clients hide or don't provide this feature. Over time though, as speeds and availability increase more and more people are seeing the internet as another harddrive so that distinction will fade. If I'm correct, Jos is from .nl, where people are spoiled in that respect [1]. [1] http://www.upc.nl/internet/ up to 120MBit down, 10Mbit up. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UK Keyboard in 7.2 console and xorg
On Wed, 27 May 2009 23:10:24 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: I have jsut loaded up 7.2, fetched the ports and installed xorg / fluxbox etc - for first time my kb / mouse didnt work in xorg but now I have that sorted with enabling hald etc sorry if stupid question, but have xorg got radical changes within last months? I never needed hald to have keyboard and mouse under X working. it's all just matter of xorg.conf, and keyboard and mouse just need setting a type (like polish in my case). However, I have noticed that the GBP symbol does not work? In console I get a beep, in xorg nothing. I have tried iso and cp850 keymaps From /usr/ports/UPDATING: 20090123: AFFECTS: users of x11-servers/xorg-server AUTHOR: rnol...@freebsd.org If you are using an older xorg.conf several config lines are no longer needed and will generate warnings when X is started. RgbPath will cause X to fail to start, remove it from your config. Server 1.5.3 also really wants to configure its input devices via hald. This is causing some issues with moused and /dev/sysmouse. There are a couple of options for how to deal with it. [...] What this means is that to get a UK keyboard layout in xorg you need a file in /usr/local/etc/hal/fdi/policy/ I've named my copy 10-x11-keyboard.fdi and it contains: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1? deviceinfo version=0.2 device match key=info.capabilities contains=input.keyboard merge key=input.x11_driver type=stringkbd/merge merge key=input.x11_options.XkbRules type=stringxorg/merge merge key=input.x11_options.XkbModel type=stringmicrosoft/merge merge key=input.x11_options.XkbLayout type=stringgb/merge /match /device /deviceinfo -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UK Keyboard in 7.2 console and xorg
sorry if stupid question, but have xorg got radical changes within last months? Xorg -version = 1.6.1 compiled from msot recent ports Initially mouse and keyboard didnt work even with correct xorg settings. Now you need hald_enable=YES and dbus_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf and the ms / kbd will be detected. Apparently this behaviour can be overridden in xorg.conf itself with ; Option AutoAddDevices off Option AutoEnableDevices off To the Section ServerFlags Also, when creating your new xorg.conf (Xorg -configure) its best to add Option DontZap false otherwise ctrl-alt-backspc wont get out out of X and you end up pressing power button. I also founf that X -config xorg.config.new -retro is best way to test new xorg.conf I never needed hald to have keyboard and mouse under X working You might with the latest version ... However, I have noticed that the GBP symbol does not work? In console I get a beep, in xorg nothing. I have tried iso and cp850 keymaps Oddly at Login: I can actually get the gb pound symbol but as soom as I am logged in I get a beep !!! You may check it with xev OK will check ... about text mode console - i have this in my rc.conf: Yes, I have similar, well swiss is my fave but I have tried UK iso etc still no luck -- Be nice with people on the way up, you might meet them on the way down! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UK Keyboard in 7.2 console and xorg
What this means is that to get a UK keyboard layout in xorg you need a file in /usr/local/etc/hal/fdi/policy/ I've named my copy 10-x11-keyboard.fdi and it contains: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1? deviceinfo version=0.2 device match key=info.capabilities contains=input.keyboard merge key=input.x11_driver type=stringkbd/merge merge key=input.x11_options.XkbRules type=stringxorg/merge merge key=input.x11_options.XkbModel type=stringmicrosoft/merge merge key=input.x11_options.XkbLayout type=stringgb/merge /match /device /deviceinfo Bruce, I am talking about the console. I have similar for xorg and the @ and symbols are in the correct place - just no pound signs in either console or x !!! -- Be nice with people on the way up, you might meet them on the way down! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
On Wed, 27 May 2009 22:20:15 +0100 Chris Rees utis...@googlemail.com wrote: - post ONLY about FreeBSD. FreeBSD == what is created by FreeBSD fundation and contributors. But you're the troublemaker that needs shutting up. i don't see the matureness of comments like this. possibly you meant it in a different way. i also don't see what's so wrong about woj's statement. after all this is a freebsd-questions list so presumably there is nothing wrong with his asking to stay on topic. i haven't read through the posts and don't plan on doing so, but if there are wildly ot posts on the thread, i can understand why some people would be concerned. -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UK Keyboard in 7.2 console and xorg
Server 1.5.3 also really wants to configure its input devices via hald. This is causing some issues with moused and /dev/sysmouse. There are a couple of options for how to deal one more question - does it mean that it really wants or you don't have a choice at all. I'm asking to know if i have to make a copy of current Xorg servers in case of new installations. thank you very much ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
- post ONLY about FreeBSD. FreeBSD == what is created by FreeBSD fundation and contributors. But you're the troublemaker that needs shutting up. i don't see the matureness of comments like this. possibly you meant it in a different way. of course it's very mature response :) it was repeated so many times this or similar way at me that it matured! i haven't read through the posts and don't plan on doing so, but if there are wildly ot posts on the thread, i can understand why some people would be concerned. and that's just another argument of making moderated list in parallel of this unmoderated. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: removing distfiles?
Thanks, quite some GB I could clean out on my workstation running on a good(?) old(!) 20GB harddisk.. herb langhans On Wed, 27 May 2009 22:56:10 +0200 Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:43:51PM +0200, herbert langhans wrote: Hi Daemons, a short question: I can delete the .tar.gz files from /usr/ports/distfiles - is this correct? Sure. Not that some port tree management goes crazy (dependencies or such).. They won't. But they'll have to re-download relevent ones if you decide to rebuild a port. Using e.g. 'portmaster --clean-distfiles-all' only removes those distfiles that do not belong to installed ports. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Streaming server
DEST STATE AGE EXP PKTS BYTES 62.75.158.169:8020 4:4 05:03:05 23:59:59 380K 296M 5 hours of online radio and I downloaded 296Meg. I don't want that hitting my harddisk at all. And if I do, then I can always record it. you don't have to. use for example mplayer with URL as argument. - Bandwidth: This didn't interrupt noticeably with my work (ssh sessions) and other web use (port downloads, remote imap, webmail, smtp over ssh, etc) and I'm currently not using altq. same as above. That's just from client perspective. From server perspective, the bandwidth advantage should be clear. There's no real advantage to gain maintaining altq rules / mod_bandwidth / foo-solution or a streaming server, except if the former are already in place. Most important is to consider if your users want to save the file, cause a lot of clients hide or don't provide this feature. Over time though, as speeds and availability increase more and more people are seeing the internet as another harddrive so that distinction will fade. anyway lots of people do download things to disks. the disks are usually huge today and mostly unused. If I'm correct, Jos is from .nl, where people are spoiled in that respect [1]. [1] http://www.upc.nl/internet/ up to 120MBit down, 10Mbit up. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
Once again - please do moderated forum that posting rules will be - post ONLY about FreeBSD. FreeBSD == what is created by FreeBSD fundation and contributors. This means - base system+port system. And mean for example that: But you're the troublemaker that needs shutting up. I'm very sorry for troubling you, but - as you and others - i have the same right to present my opinions. And both of us don't have right to shut up others, until any of us create it's own forum and define clear posting rules. I think you should try more to control your reactions. The first thing is to understand their mechanism, after you truly understand them, controlling will be easy. I wish it will help you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Is this a gmirror bug?
does it detects errors and fix them? after fsck is it ok or still nonsense in Used? Unfortunately I did not do the fsck. We have an automated reimaging process that lets me rebuild a system in less than five minutes so I decided for expediency to do this. If I see this happen again though, I'll run the fsck... and if it will fix a problem, make master images again with this or it will bring error back. How this reimaging work if i may ask? bootable DVD with unix and script that do zcat [partition image.gz] /dev/partition ? that's how i do this in places there is a requirement of running windows. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: removing distfiles?
2009/5/27 Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:43:51PM +0200, herbert langhans wrote: Hi Daemons, a short question: I can delete the .tar.gz files from /usr/ports/distfiles - is this correct? Sure. Not that some port tree management goes crazy (dependencies or such).. They won't. But they'll have to re-download relevent ones if you decide to rebuild a port. Using e.g. 'portmaster --clean-distfiles-all' only removes those distfiles that do not belong to installed ports. I love portmaster. Another advantage of ports-mgmt/portmaster: $ head -n4 `which portmaster` #!/bin/sh # Copyright (c) 2005-2009 Douglas Barton, All rights reserved # Please see detailed copyright below (I'm glad this isn't beer license, cos I'd owe Mr. Barton a lot of beer) -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:21:19PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: mainstream, or because i have opinion at all, i just respond normally. Wojtek - I also think you have the capacity to help and you often do. But don't pretend to be speaking for the FreeBSD team because you are doing reread my posts. i didn't speak for them and i said that i'm not them. i AS USUAL tell what i think. And YOU just don't accept this because it's completely different point of view than yours. You - like most people - react with fear/aggression when hearing/reading something completely agains the knowledge you've been put to the brain for years. Who is right doesn't matter at all that cases. I understand this because is natural reaction, often not fully conscious. As you - and few other people - can not use arguments just attacks, it make the list polluted. Sorry to wade in to this, but the reality has been and is just the oposite. It is m. Puchar who has been making reactionary responses and somewhat unkind ones at that.Is it a language issue? Or is it a lack in self awareness/examination? jerry And - back to that funny sponsor - I can only do favour sending them out. Can't you see it's semi-automatic posts to whatever he found, because he just want to advertise yourself and his webpage improvement services? (improvement==adding tons of flash, javas...t etc.) He wanted his banner on FreeBSD site for 100$ Or maybe i'm wrong - if so, please Core Team to put our little company's link on my page and i will send 100$ today. Don't forget to give me account number. Even more - i will find 10 friends to do the same. Just 10 links with small letters ;) and 1000$ is yours. The trick of doing ANY business, and non-profit work is to NOT TAKE EVERY CRAP, just because you see money. I'm sure you already know it in your business, so why can't you see this here? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 02:38:46PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: Of course - ban it! Just my 2c... Snotty comments like this in a public forum, is exactly why I no longer use FreeBSD. Just about everything in these mailing lists turns If you stopped using FreeBSD BECAUSE OF FORUM, congratulations ;) This means that OS functionality is not important for you at all! Well, that certainly doesn't follow. Actually, that one does. If you use FreeBSD because of the OS functionality/reliability, etc then trashy noise on the questions list wouldn't make a difference in your choice. If you stop using it because you don't like the noise, then functionality is not your high priority.Maybe saying 'at all' is over the top.But, anyway, the noise is getting tiresome - even mine. jerry -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Sponsoring FreeBSD
PLEASE can we move on now! I prefer not to filter people cause on rare occasions everyone has something useful or funny to say and I don't want to miss those. Everyone is right, Everyone is wrong, kiss and make up - and then PLEASE STFU! And that's said with ALL due respect and not directed toward any one person! All this $hit DID make me realize I need to get my company to pony up some $$$ - FreeBSD has been beneficial to u, so thanks to all that support and maintain it!!! -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Wojciech Puchar Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:06 PM To: utis...@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD Once again - please do moderated forum that posting rules will be - post ONLY about FreeBSD. FreeBSD == what is created by FreeBSD fundation and contributors. This means - base system+port system. And mean for example that: But you're the troublemaker that needs shutting up. I'm very sorry for troubling you, but - as you and others - i have the same right to present my opinions. And both of us don't have right to shut up others, until any of us create it's own forum and define clear posting rules. I think you should try more to control your reactions. The first thing is to understand their mechanism, after you truly understand them, controlling will be easy. I wish it will help you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org font size=1 div style='border:none;border-bottom:double windowtext 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in' /div This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. /font ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UK Keyboard in 7.2 console and xorg
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:57:58PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Server 1.5.3 also really wants to configure its input devices via hald. This is causing some issues with moused and /dev/sysmouse. There are a couple of options for how to deal one more question - does it mean that it really wants or you don't have a choice at all. The xorg-server port has an option not to use hal. But it is enabled by default. The first thing I did when it appeared was to disable it, and X has kept working normally with my xorg.conf slightly altered to conform to the 20090123 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpOpWXSVbjC8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: - post ONLY about FreeBSD. FreeBSD == what is created by FreeBSD fundation and contributors. But you're the troublemaker that needs shutting up. i don't see the matureness of comments like this. possibly you meant it in a different way. of course it's very mature response :) it was repeated so many times this or similar way at me that it matured! That's actually pretty funny! Nice! i haven't read through the posts and don't plan on doing so, but if there are wildly ot posts on the thread, i can understand why some people would be concerned. and that's just another argument of making moderated list in parallel of this unmoderated. As far as having the right to post your opinion . . sure . . . but that does not mean that your opinions are just as good as others. Being of the opinion that the earth is flat is just not a very good opinion . . . no? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UK Keyboard in 7.2 console and xorg
The xorg-server port has an option not to use hal. But it is enabled by default. indeed | |[X] HALCompile with HAL config support u :) how nice. while i have Xorg already installed when i need, and don't upgrade it (as it works fine), once again thank you very much for that info. it's always good to know this beforehand. The first thing I did when it appeared was to disable it, and X has kept working normally with my xorg.conf slightly altered to conform to the 20090123 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING. that's not a problem i always edit xorg.conf to some extent. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)
Sorry to wade in to this, but the reality has been and is just the oposite. It is m. Puchar who has been making reactionary responses and somewhat unkind ones at that.Is it a language issue? Or is this. please tell me (privately) the fragment that you read as this, because everything i type i try to do it with clear explanation and arguments, not fighting. But i'm not native english speaker of course. He wanted his banner on FreeBSD site for 100$ Or maybe i'm wrong - if so, please Core Team to put our little company's link on my page and i will send 100$ today. Don't forget to give me account number. anyway, i reread the original sponsoring offer and i think i understand well. so - if FreeBSD team like to accept donations that way, my 100$ is still waiting :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
rsync approach
we have 2 static ip addresses with a machine running 7.2 connected to each. one is the primary server, while the other does only dns and receives bkp dumps from the first. we want to set things up so the 2nd can be brought on line at a moment's notice. therefore, we are thinking of rsync to duplicate 1st 2nd (with the exception of rc.conf and a few other files of course because we don't want them to be absolutely identical). we plan to allow root login and have disabled all password access so that rsync can preserve permissions. is this a good way to accomplish the bkp job? -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
Well, that certainly doesn't follow. Actually, that one does. Don't bother, he just answered that after reading wojciech puchar in mail header, so he had to be against. If you use FreeBSD because of the OS functionality/reliability, etc then trashy noise on the questions list wouldn't make a difference in your choice. i can give myself as an example. Even no forum at all won't make me change it. But i want high quality forum, because i like new users who want to learn true good unix to not be stucked up by some simple problem with that OS, that by accident isn't described well in handbook or manual. That's for what forum should be, and why it should be moderated, and posting rules clearly defined for all users. It will be then FreeBSD forum after all, not everything-about-something-more-or-less-remotely-connected-with-unix. If you stop using it because you don't like the noise, then functionality is not your high priority.Maybe saying 'at all' is over the top. maybe not at all, but at least it means that such user don't see a functionality difference between FreeBSD and some other system, so he can choose because of forum quality, personal taste, what name sounds better and what logo looks nicer. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Is this a gmirror bug?
How this reimaging work if i may ask? bootable DVD with unix and script that do zcat [partition image.gz] /dev/partition We have a two step process. First we run a script that creates the master image as a tgz. The image is created at an alternate root using the -C option of pkg_add and the DESTDIR option of the various OS install scripts. We only run this script when we need to make a change to the master image. We use this image to create bootable USB sticks, and when a system is booted from one of these sticks there is automatic startup logic that clones the disk onto the target hard drive of the box (configuring the partitions and mirrors in the process) and then shuts the box down. We then simply have to remove the USB stick and reboot the box, and the system comes up with a clean OS. The whole cloning process only takes five minutes or so, and we can do multiple systems at a time using multiple USB drives. Works extremely well. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
As far as having the right to post your opinion . . sure . . . but that does not mean that your opinions are just as good as others. Being of the opinion that the earth is flat is just not a very good opinion . . . no? exactly. but as you may compare some of my opinions to flat earth as i may do it with some your opinions. It's normal, and it's OK as long as there are discussion on arguments, and with at least basic culture. But it's getting hard here because of no more than 3 people here+crowd psychology that make many others behave the same after them. And it will not end, and will become worse and worse when more and more new people will come. The only way to control it is to define posting rules, which are absolutely clear. MAYBE it can go without classic moderation just informing rule-breakers about it. But i don't think so, as after some times there will be people that will ignore it, so moderation is needed. There will not be much job to moderator, on-topic FreeBSD questions volume is low. And will be kept low quantity but high quality. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)
Hi there, First of all, if anyone is still reading it, I apologize if I sounded harsh but I do care about FreeBSD so it does bother me that potential supporters are turned down. Explanation below. anyway, i reread the original sponsoring offer and i think i understand well. so - if FreeBSD team like to accept donations that way, my 100$ is still waiting :) I am afraid you still do not understand it. This sponsorship offer was NOT directed to you. Neither was it to me. I did not reply to it because it was clearly addressed to the core team. I still cannot understand why you - an active, experienced and knowledgeable FBSD user - would want to scare off potential donors for the project? Contrary to you, I work in the fundraising field and I cannot imagine turning people down that way. Secondly, some donors often start by making small donations but they may at some point cosinder upgrading their level of contribution. There is nothing wrong with that. And thirdly, I may have missed something but when did someone from the core team say that they like to accept donations that way? Yours, -- Zbigniew Szalbot ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: Well, that certainly doesn't follow. Actually, that one does. Don't bother, he just answered that after reading wojciech puchar in mail header, so he had to be against. No! Unless you think that fBSd is the only functional/reliable OS. If so, good luck making that argument. Wojciech, I, like many others who have responded on this thread, appreciate much of the help that you provide on this list. You seem to fail (for whatever reason) to understand that your opinionated comments may need to be better thought out. If you were the monitor of your utopian mailing list, what would you have done with your response to the OP? If you use FreeBSD because of the OS functionality/reliability, etc then trashy noise on the questions list wouldn't make a difference in your choice. i can give myself as an example. Even no forum at all won't make me change it. But i want high quality forum, because i like new users who want to learn true good unix to not be stucked up by some simple problem with that OS, that by accident isn't described well in handbook or manual. That's for what forum should be, and why it should be moderated, and posting rules clearly defined for all users. It will be then FreeBSD forum after all, not everything-about-something-more-or-less-remotely-connected-with-unix. If you stop using it because you don't like the noise, then functionality is not your high priority. Maybe saying 'at all' is over the top. maybe not at all, but at least it means that such user don't see a functionality difference between FreeBSD and some other system, so he can choose because of forum quality, personal taste, what name sounds better and what logo looks nicer. -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
On Wed, 27 May 2009 17:15:58 -0500 Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com wrote: of course it's very mature response :) it was repeated so many times this or similar way at me that it matured! That's actually pretty funny! Nice! yes that is very well done! As far as having the right to post your opinion . . sure . . . but that does not mean that your opinions are just as good as others. of course that goes both ways which is why a certain amount of relevance is a good idea. for instance, on the physicsforums there is a rule that you are to stick with established theories and not go into outer space with pet speculations (not to say new ideas aren't welcome though ... just within context). this is quite understandable since people are interested in physics and not the inner-ramblings of someone's mind. therefore, it seems that keeping the list to fbsd issues is a valid point. -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RTL8111-GR driver for FreeBSD6.4
Hi all, I have been looking for and have not been able to find out if there is a driver for FreeBSD6.4 that supports the RTL8111-GR network adaptor. This is a port that is built into the Intel DG31PR Motherboard. Has anyone been able to get this network card to work under 6.4? Thanks, Troy Beisigl ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Sponsoring FreeBSD
to miss those. Everyone is right, Everyone is wrong, kiss and make up - and then PLEASE STFU! And that's said with ALL due respect and not directed toward any one person! All this $hit DID make me realize I need to get my company to pony up some $$$ - FreeBSD has been beneficial to u, so thanks to all that support and maintain it!!! good idea. of course i mean you like to sponsor FreeBSD, not buy advert on main page which is IMHO not possible. And if you plan dedicated sponsoring for creating moderated forum, i could do this. i don't have that much money, but i can give 200$ for this. Or maybe - lets gather up more people to pay few tens of $ per month eatch to pay someone willing to work as a moderator? It's not very time consuming job (traffic won't be enormous), so it would be enough. I personally could give 100PLN (about 33$ now) per month. Core Team must agree to keep that moderated forum on their site. Of course if they will not - nobody forbids creating it alone, but i am definitely against it. I think they will agree if some funding will be available and/or moderators will be available. As Tou said - FreeBSD is beneficial for us, actually i can't imagine doing my job without it, so i will be happy to reward too. Other option - no money, but at least 5 people that will be moderators giving their little job as FreeBSD support. As time allows. I know all of us is more or less busy with daily jobs, but with at least 5 people there will be always someone to moderate at any time. It would be best to choose people from different timezones, so there will not be dead time every day. People will not be happy to wait half a day for their post to pass through moderator. But finally - posting rules MUST BE defined (or at least accepted after discussion) by Core Team if they agree. it's their system/project/site anyway. Moderators should only be workers/executors to prevent ANY cases that someone is blocked because moderator don't like him/her. How about it? Only STRICT RULES keep things healthy and long lived. after all there is much less than 100 strictly on-topic posts per day. it's not that much job to moderate it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)
I am afraid you still do not understand it. This sponsorship offer was NOT directed to you. Neither was it to me. I did not reply to it because it was clearly addressed to the core team. it was addressed to mailing list. if he would like to address it to core team, then he would do this! to be clear - it was mostly spam-like post. I still cannot understand why you - an active, experienced and knowledgeable FBSD user - would want to scare off potential donors for the once again please reread that post. it wasn't even potential donor, but potential advert buyer. But if i'm really wrong, i will mail him and say that he can buy advert on FreeBSD webpage for 100$. Actually i talked with him privately so it won't be a problem. in the same time, i will get another 100$ as it's quite cheap price for advert on such popular webpage! I think you finally catched what i mean, if not - i will try to explain again. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Help logging kernel messages after failed resume
OK, it goes like this: Dell Inspiron 1318, boot -v can be found in here: http://pastebin.com/f3a1c204a sysctl -a | grep hw.acpi | sort can be found in here: http://pastebin.com/fcfc0035 First shot: Try the Livefs CD, myhost# acpiconf -s 3 WORKS !!! The machine goes into suspend state and resumes_from_it_without_any_problems !! Second shot: Install ... myhost# acpiconf -s 3 does not work anymore ... I issue a myhost# acpiconf -s 3 and then I get a kernel message: fwohci0: fwohci_acpi_suspend ... The machine enters suspend state ... so far so good. Now, when I try yo resume from suspend, the machine spouts a plethora of kernel errors .. most notable ones beign bge0 errors, fwohci0 errors and the following ...: ad4: WARNING - SETFEATURES SET TRANSFERMODE taskqueue timeout - completing request directly ad4: WARNING - SETFEATURES SET TRANSFERMODE taskqueue timeout - completing request directly ad4: WARNING - SETFEATURES ENABLE RCACHE taskqueue timeout - completing request directly ad4: WARNING - SETFEATURES ENABLE WCACHE taskqueue timeout - completing request directly ad4: WARNING - SET_MULTI taskqueue timeout - completing request directly ata3: port not implemented ad4: WARNING - SETFEATURES SET TRANSFERMODE taskqueue timeout - completing request directly ad4: WARNING - SETFEATURES SET TRANSFERMODE taskqueue timeout - completing request directly ad4: WARNING - SETFEATURES ENABLE RCACHE taskqueue timeout - completing request directly ad4: WARNING - SETFEATURES ENABLE WCACHE taskqueue timeout - completing request directly ad4: WARNING - SET_MULTI taskqueue timeout - completing request directly ad4: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA48 retryng (1 retry left) LBA=272675445 As you can tell by now, the machine never recovers from -s 3 (or suspend to ram). The thing is, ad4 never gets back to life ... as a consecuence, even if the kernel trows its messages to stdout, they never get logged ! Is there a way to record those messages so I can post them on the corresponding list and file all the PRs I'm about to file?? Note: I can ssh into the notebook, then su - and issue acpiconf -s 3, but I can't get the notebook to WOL .. so .. I have to press the power button on the notebook to get it to resume and as a consecuence, those messages are sent to stdout (notebook screen) and I can't get them on the ssh client. SCRIPT(1) it's not a solution either .. because ad4 never gets back to life .. so script can't record a thing after it went into suspend :( Any help will be greatly appreciated. Just in case you are wondering what happens if I boot with ACPI disabled: Fatal trap 9 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-acpi/2009-May/005734.html Best Regards -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
therefore, it seems that keeping the list to fbsd issues is a valid point. Which WILL end up with moderated list within some time. Current quality will not improve, only will get worse sooner or later. The moderated list should be started quickly for simple reason: at the beginning (almost) all people will use both lists, while all failures of moderated list will slowly come up. For example that posting rules are not defined precisely enough. Same with moderators, after some time they will well organize themselves so dead time will be close to 0. By some time it will work very well, so more and more people will shift to this. Of course not all, as part of them are happy with current status as a place to ask/talk about almost anything that have any remote connection to unix. Everyone will be happy. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: rsync approach
On 27 May 2009, at 15:03, prad wrote: we have 2 static ip addresses with a machine running 7.2 connected to each. one is the primary server, while the other does only dns and receives bkp dumps from the first. we want to set things up so the 2nd can be brought on line at a moment's notice. therefore, we are thinking of rsync to duplicate 1st 2nd (with the exception of rc.conf and a few other files of course because we don't want them to be absolutely identical). we plan to allow root login and have disabled all password access so that rsync can preserve permissions. is this a good way to accomplish the bkp job? It might be, but its difficult to say without knowing a lot more about what going on in the system. For example, rsync of large files that change real often can be an issue. You may get an inconsistent copy of the file if it is changing during the update of that file. Rsync does one file at a time. Hence if you have multiple files that need to be consistent between them it might not happen. If transactions changing a file occur between the rsync of the first file and the rsync of the second file, they will not be consistent. I use rsync for basically the same thing you are considering. However, in my situation, the real dynamic files are database files. I don't rsync them. Those are exported every evening and those files are rsync'd. During the day, every application that updates a database file also adds a copy of the new record to the end of a log file. That log file is also rsync'd about every 5 minutes. In this way I can recover to within 5 minutes quite easily. The last 5 minutes might be a bit more work, but the information would be available from the original sources at that point. Allowing root login is generally not a great approach. Rsync will retain permissions (use -p) if the user id's and group ids are the same on both systems. You may have to modify some of the pam files to permit rsync to function easily. The easy test is to rsh other host date If that works and you get the date, then rsync will function properly. If not you need to track down why in the various log files. I had to make the following change: pam.d/rsh: -auth requiredpam_rhosts.so no_warn +auth required pam_rhosts.so no_warnallow_root This was first done quite a few years ago and has been propagated to the current systems so I don't know if its still required or not. Our systems only have 3 users (the administrators) so we have passwords working fine. It has not interfered with rsync. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: RTL8111-GR driver for FreeBSD6.4
I have been looking for and have not been able to find out if there is a driver for FreeBSD6.4 that supports the RTL8111-GR network adaptor. This is a port that is built into the Intel DG31PR Motherboard. Has anyone been able man 4 re says it support RTL8111 but i have FreeBSD 7.1 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
No! Unless you think that fBSd is the only functional/reliable OS. If for my needs it's actually true. Only FreeBSD meets my requirements. Wojciech, I, like many others who have responded on this thread, appreciate much of the help that you provide on this list. You seem to fail (for whatever reason) to understand that your opinionated comments may need to be better thought out. If you were the monitor of your utopian mailing list, what would you have done with your Of course - you already decided about utopian. no argument for this. response to the OP? as i said (another example you don't read what i write carefully) i would first define strict rules of posting. and then moderators should only execute them. If i would be moderator i could only do this, or stop being moderator. If rules would allow any discussion if moderator should or should not delete post, then rules are wrong and must be fixed. moderator can not have any power to resolve personal things through it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: No! Unless you think that fBSd is the only functional/reliable OS. If for my needs it's actually true. Only FreeBSD meets my requirements. slide ok . . . /slide Wojciech, I, like many others who have responded on this thread, appreciate much of the help that you provide on this list. You seem to fail (for whatever reason) to understand that your opinionated comments may need to be better thought out. If you were the monitor of your utopian mailing list, what would you have done with your Of course - you already decided about utopian. no argument for this. response to the OP? as i said (another example you don't read what i write carefully) i would first define strict rules of posting. and then moderators should only execute them. If i would be moderator i could only do this, or stop being moderator. If rules would allow any discussion if moderator should or should not delete post, then rules are wrong and must be fixed. moderator can not have any power to resolve personal things through it. I read what you posted carefully. I'm asking you to play pretend . . . if you were the moderator of the list you suggest, do you think that the response you gave to the OP, as a non-developer, is acceptable. That is, do you think that that those who have no responsibility as far as what is done with $$ donated to the fBSD cause (i.e., you) should respond to to those who wish to donate? For a minute there, I was hoping that it was a language issue (BTW - I think your English is quite good), but now I think it's an attention issue. -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: removing distfiles?
Robert Huff wrote: herbert langhans writes: I can delete the .tar.gz files from /usr/ports/distfiles - is this correct? Not that some port tree management goes crazy (dependencies or such).. If you want to be selective, try portsclean which is part of portupgrade(-*). Robert Huff I second this notion. portsclean -DLC is great for recovering disk space after port installs and/or using portupgrade -arR. -*D* -*-distclean* Clean out all the distfiles that are not referenced by any port in the ports tree. Specified twice (i.e. -*DD* ), clean out all the distfiles that are not referenced by any port that is currently installed. (cf. / DISTDIR/) -*L* -*-libclean* Clean out old, duplicate and/or orphaned shared libraries. **portsclean** first deletes duplicate shared libraries where appropriate, then puts away old and orphaned shared libaries to /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg updating symlinks properly. To keep binaries working, ldconfig http://www.gsp.com/cgi-bin/man.cgi?section=8topic=ldconfig(8) is run after each library deletion or move. **portsclean** is so wise you can safely run it without turning -*i* on. However, if you want to do further cleanup, specify the flag to be asked on possibly unneeded libraries too. You can use the sysutils/libchk port to check which library is linked with which binaries. -*C* -*-workclean* Clean out all the working directories of the ports tree. (cf. / WRKDIRPREFIX/) -John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Problems with IPv6 CARP Interface in PF
Hello: I'm having reachability problems with a CARP interface set up on two 7.1 boxes with an uplink to Cisco routers. However, the inside CARP address on the same set of PF boxes are reachable with no trouble. Here's the config. Cisco Cisco HSRP Gateway | CARP Interface 1 PF Box PF Box CARP Interface 2 | Server When I try to ping CARP Interface 1 above from the Internet, I get no response. When I ping the CARP Interface 2, which has a route set from the Cisco's to CARP Interface 1, it works. Here's what I see in my logs. 00:38:45.763975 IP6 fe80::203:6cff:fef9:2c00 ff02::1:ff00:7: ICMP6, neighbor solicitation, who has 2001:4970:::7, length 32 ... with no response. Here is the ifconfig from one box. carp0: flags=49UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING metric 0 mtu 1500 inet6 2001:4970:::6 prefixlen 64 inet6 2001:4970:::7 prefixlen 64 carp: MASTER vhid 1 advbase 1 advskew 100 carp1: flags=49UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING metric 0 mtu 1500 inet6 2001:4970::::1 prefixlen 64 carp: MASTER vhid 2 advbase 1 advskew 100 and the other shows appropriately as BACKUP. There is no change if I run with just one PF box. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Mike -- Michael K. Smith - CISSP, GISP Chief Technical Officer - Adhost Internet LLC mksm...@adhost.com w: +1 (206) 404-9500 f: +1 (206) 404-9050 PGP: B49A DDF5 8611 27F3 08B9 84BB E61E 38C0 (Key ID: 0x9A96777D) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: removing distfiles?
On Wed, 27 May 2009 22:56:10 +0200 Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: Using e.g. 'portmaster --clean-distfiles-all' only removes those distfiles that do not belong to installed ports. I've not used it myself, but there is also a shell script called distviper in bsdadminscripts which supports both of distclean's modes without the ruby dependence. Personally I much prefer the less aggressive mode (distclean -D) which deletes files unreferenced by the ports tree, rather than unreferenced by installed ports. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: removing distfiles?
RW writes: Personally I much prefer the less aggressive mode (distclean -D) which deletes files unreferenced by the ports tree, rather than unreferenced by installed ports. I use -DD. With nearly 1000 ports on one machine, it's important to realize many ports go months (and some years) between updates and pain of downloading a fresh copy is minimal given a half decent net connection. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
