Re: xmlrpc-epi

2003-02-05 Thread Vallo Kallaste
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 03:19:20PM +0200, Toomas Aas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If anyone has successfully built xmlrpc-epi ver 0.51
 (http://xmlrpc-epi.sourceforge.net) under FreeBSD 4.x, I would be
 interested to know how. I'm building a server for an application
 which requires this, and so far I'm having no success. In a
 nutshell, the build process bombs out with messages:
 
 gcc -I/usr/local/include -o .libs/sample sample.o
 -L/usr/local/lib -L/home/xtee /lib ../src/.libs/libxmlrpc.so
 -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/home/xtee/lib ../src/.libs/libxmlrpc.so:
 undefined reference to `iconv_open' ../src/.libs/libxmlrpc.so:
 undefined reference to `iconv_close' ../src/.libs/libxmlrpc.so:
 undefined reference to `iconv' gmake[2]: *** [sample] Error 1
 gmake[2]: Leaving directory
 `/home/install/src/xmlrpc-epi-0.51/sample'
 
 I do have libiconv-1.8_2 port installed and the build process can
 find it (otherwise it would complain about missing iconv.h).

It's missing functions found in libiconv library. The library search
path is right, try to add -liconv at the end of line, so it'll pick
up the library.
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Re: samba serving mac and windows

2003-02-05 Thread Jon Reynolds
On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 23:00, Denis N. Peplin wrote:
 On Wednesday 05 February 2003 10:01, Jon Reynolds wrote:
  We have a FreeBSD4.7 box setup as a fileserver using samba, this works
  great for our windows users but not so good with our mac users. The
  problem is this:
 
  A windows user can take a document off of the fileserver and edit that
  file and save it back to the fileserver, no problem.
 
  A Mac user can connect to the fileserver and edit the same document but
  when trying to save back to the fileserver they are asked to rename the
  file because one by that name already exists.
 
 Mac clients often buggy and have poor support for smb networks.
 Try netatalk, native server for apple networks.
 /usr/ports/net/netatalk

We also tried netatalk with the same results. We did try some basic
tests with moving files and copying back and forth we would get the
error file locked or in use. This seems to be a mac osx issue as more
than a few websites have threads talking of file corruption between the
mac and freebsd. 

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Brooktrout cards on Biz

2003-02-05 Thread Matthew Faircliff
Hello,

Does anyone have any experience with getting Brooktrout fax cards to work under FBSD? 

I know Brooktrout has a developer API to do this sort of thing, I was just wondering 
if it had been done yet (or if I could get this API from anyone :) ).

Thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have.

Matt.


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Re: Second Drive Bootable.

2003-02-05 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 07:38:55PM -0500, Grant Peel wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have a frsh install of freebsd 4.7.
 
 I have a second drive exactly the same geometry as the first.
 
 I have dumped and restored all the filesystems from the first to the second.
 
 Is there a way, short of rebooting, that I can check and see if the second
 drive is bootable?
 
 (I am looking to use the second as a 'mirror' drive).

The second drive won't provide you with a fully functional replacement
system as-is.  You'll need to decide how you want to use it:

i) As an exact copy of the primary drive.  That means that in the
event of the primary drive failing, you've got to open up your
machine and swap your backup drive in in-place of the original
primary.

ii) As an alternate disk you can boot from at will.  In this case,
you'll need to make some modifications to at least /etc/fstab in
order to mount partitions from backup disk.

If you want option (ii) you will also need to set up the boot blocks
on both disks using boot0cfg(8).  It's exactly like the dual boot
system Giorgos describes in
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=976599+0+current/freebsd-questions

In short, you'll need to do:

# boot0cfg -v -B /dev/ad0
# boot0cfg -v -B /dev/ad1

This will give you the ability to switch easily to booting from the
other disk.  Unfortunately, no one can guarrantee that it's going to
work until you test it.  Also I don't think it is possible to
configure the system to automatically reboot from the other disk,
should the first disk fail, without having someone present to
reconfigure the system BIOS and hit the buttons in response to the
boot loader prompt.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Where is the Boot Manager?

2003-02-05 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 08:50:58PM -0500, John H Hofstetter wrote:
 The reason I'm asking where the FreeBSD boot manager is because I need to
 get rid of it, make it go away.  This is not because I'm displeased with
 FreeBSD as an operating system but due to the fact that I'm limited to a
 56k dial up and too broke to spend any money at this time on the very
 reasonably priced CD set.  This being the situation and a friend having
 loaned me a Linux distribution, I opted to scrub, for now the FreeBSD
 partition and load Linux.  Upon scrubbing the non-DOS partition, the boot
 manager still remains and it won't allow booting to Linux and appears to
 be interfering with the Linux boot manager.  For now I'm using the 30 day
 demo of BootIt, and I'd like to resolve this boot manager issue before
 the 30 days are up.  I must say I'm impressed with what FreeBSD has to
 offer and will try a serious full blown install some day.

The FreeBSD boot manager resides entirely within the 512b boot block
in sector 0 of the disk.  You should be able to eliminate it be
rewriting the 'Master Boot Record'.  Under FreeBSD that's done by:

# fdisk -B -b /boot/mbr ad0

where '/boot/mbr' contains a default MBR image.  Similarly from an MS
Win Dos command line you can run:

 fdisk /mbr c:

Under Linux, one way to do the equivalent is apparently:

# lilo -i /boot/boot.b

but you'll have to specify the drive to operate on via /etc/lilo.conf.
At least, that's the sum of my vague recollection of doing this sort
of thing a long time ago and my reading of the Linux man pages.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Problem with kernel rebuit

2003-02-05 Thread iulian
Hello!
I have 5.0 Release and I reconfigured my kernel for sound card.
Everything was going fine, no errors, but my new kernel doesn't loaded.
What should I do?
Thanks!

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Re: RSYNC Question; date/time restriction

2003-02-05 Thread Marc Silver
Hi there,

On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 11:43:39PM +0100, Boris K?ster wrote:
 I have setup a little mirror of about 15 gig about linux/freebsd
 software and my problem is that I only want to get the files dated
 after january 2003 with rsync after getting the whole bunch of
 software.
 
 Is this possible?

I believe that the find(1) command can do what you want by using the
'mtime' flag.  You can also use the 'delete' flag once you're sure it's
getting the right files directories, etc.

Something like:

'/usr/bin/find /your/mirror/dir -mtime +15 -delete'

Would delete all files that are older than fifteen days iirc (this is
all from memory)

Just 'man find' and that should give you what you want.

Good luck,
Marc

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Re: removing all users

2003-02-05 Thread Marc Silver
Hi there,

On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 02:31:55PM -0900, Jon Reynolds wrote:
 Probably a stupid question but I have a lot of users on a freebsd
 box and I want to remove them all at once. Is there any problem with
 just issueing this command in the /home directory: 'rm -i *'. Or is
 there a better way to do this?
 
 Thanks for any suggestions,

You could try something like:

cd /home/
for i in * ; do /usr/sbin/rmuser -y $i ; done

That should do what you're asking for, and will do a lot more than just
remove the directories.  Man rmuser(8) for more info on what it does if
you're interested.  :)

- Marc

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Re: portupgrading problems

2003-02-05 Thread local.freebsd.questions
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 21:37:27 - , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My usual procedure is this:

cvsup -g -L 2 /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile  portsdb -Uu

I then check to see what is out of date and usually run portupgrade -ra

I run the following script from cron at 3am:

#!/bin/sh
#
# Use cvsup to upgrade the system sources and ports skeletons
# If portupgrade is installed, rebuild its databases
#
CVSBASE=/usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile
CVSPORT=/usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile
HOST=cvsup3.uk.freebsd.org
#
cvsup=/usr/local/bin/cvsup
portsdb=/usr/local/sbin/portsdb
pkgdb=/usr/local/sbin/pkgdb
#
$cvsup -Z -h $HOST $CVSBASE
$cvsup -Z -h $HOST $CVSPORT
#
if [ -x $portsdb ]
then
  $portsdb -Uu
fi
if [ -x $pkgdb ]
then
  $pkgdb -Fu
fi


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Re: Xft-2.1 port problems

2003-02-05 Thread local.freebsd.questions
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 07:41:08 - , [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Barrett)
wrote:

Anyone have any idea what might be causing this?  I've tried going into
/usr/ports/x11-fonts/Xft and doing a make deinstall, but my ports no longer
point at Xft-2.0_1, they point to 2.1 and so it doesn't seem to think Xft is
installed (even though I see it installed in /var/db/pkg).  Anyways, any
help I can get on this would be much appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Well you can delete the old one with pkg_delete
(was that really the question or did I misunderstand?)


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Re: Buildworld Failing

2003-02-05 Thread Marc Silver
Kris,

On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 10:20:04AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
 You actually want 'make cleandir'

What is the technical difference between 'make clean' and 'make
cleandir'...?  Perhaps you can clear this up for me?

- Marc

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Re: Buildworld Failing

2003-02-05 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 09:48:34AM +, Marc Silver wrote:
 Kris,
 
 On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 10:20:04AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
  You actually want 'make cleandir'
 
 What is the technical difference between 'make clean' and 'make
 cleandir'...?  Perhaps you can clear this up for me?

From memory: the latter removes .depend files and the objdir.  The
former doesn't.

Kris



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Help required for Installation on BSD 4.1 OS

2003-02-05 Thread Mangoli, Girish
HI ,

I would like to know if it is possible to install BSD 4.1 on Compaq Proliant
DL 380 G2 server with 5ie scsi embeded controller. If yes where will I get
the Boot diskettes for installation the OS with 5ie drives..

Thanks  Regards
Girish B Mangoli


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Good way of upgrading from FreeBSD 4.5

2003-02-05 Thread Johannes Angeldorff
Dear FreeBSD:ers,

I am happy to use FreeBSD for web, mail and applications serving. But
when I come to the question about how to upgrade to a newer FreeBSD
version, I really could need your expertise!

We have two FreeBSD 4.5 boxes. Both boxes have been installed with
FreeBSD 4.5 from CD, and then tweaked with reconfigured kernels and a
few applications installed, mainly qmail (replacing sendmail),
mod-php, mysql, pico and a few more. Both boxes have around 25 users
each. Both boxes have tweaked settings in /etc/rc.conf and some other
/etc/-files.

My question is, if anyone can give a hint on how to upgrade safely
from FreeBSD 4.5 to FreeBSD 5.0...?

If we download FreeBSD 5.0 and install it on our FreeBSD 4.5 boxes,
what will we have to do? Is there risk that all settings, contents
and installed applications will be erased?

Very thankful for all help on this matter...!
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Re: need some advice on MTA

2003-02-05 Thread Frank Tegtmeyer
sweetleaf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Thanks again, Sir.  The only other question would be: Is there a good
 admin utility for postfix such as the one for qmail.

I cannot answer this - I didn't use Postfix extensively.

 usersmaybe add the user to a databas and the server finds it
 there.

That's right. Relational databases or LDAP are common for such tasks.
Vpopmail can use both and there is also a specialized LDAP-patch for
qmail that provides additional features besides central account
management.

Frank

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RE: need some advice on MTA

2003-02-05 Thread Michael Ritchie
Regarding the qmail-ldap port assuming I was building a box from
scratch, could this port be installed on its own, or is it a 'patch' to an
existing (presumably working) qmail installation?  The description for this
port isn't terribly clear in this regard.

Thanks

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Sent: Wednesday, 5 February 2003 9:19 PM
To: sweetleaf
Cc: freebsd-questions
Subject: Re: need some advice on MTA


sweetleaf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Thanks again, Sir.  The only other question would be: Is there a good
 admin utility for postfix such as the one for qmail.

I cannot answer this - I didn't use Postfix extensively.

 usersmaybe add the user to a databas and the server finds it
 there.

That's right. Relational databases or LDAP are common for such tasks.
Vpopmail can use both and there is also a specialized LDAP-patch for
qmail that provides additional features besides central account
management.

Frank

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Re: need some advice on MTA

2003-02-05 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-02-04 14:20:55 -0600:
 I am looking for an alternative MTA to replace sendmail on my freebsd 
 4.7-rel box. My question is i have searched google quite extensively and 
 found :
 
 Qmail
 Courier
 Postfix
 
 I would like some opinions as to which of the 3 above is better in 
 regards to security, authentication features, reliability, performance 
 etc... and i guess which would be recommended for  providing ./Maildir/ 
 accounts to about 200-300 people VIA Courier IMAP.

I run four Postfixes (one of them with Courier-IMAP), and one Qmail
with vpopmail.

Postfix is IMO easier to install and administer, but doesn't have a
point'n'click interface.

It also looks like Postfix is a much faster moving target than
Qmail, e. g. the virtual address/mailbox support has been evolving
quite a lot, and the configuration changed in Postfix-2.

I wouldn't recommend Courier; I don't know the SMTP part of the
pack, but the IMAP server is pretty admin-hostile in that it doesn't
log almost anything at all, so when you run into trouble, you're
left to guessing, and hacking the source.

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shutdown problem

2003-02-05 Thread Sergey Ledenev

When i make shutdown on FreeBSD 4.7 i have this strings:
Uptime: ...
ciss0: invalid command, offense size 0 at 0, value 0x0
(da0:ciss0:0:0:0): Syncronize cache failed, status == 0x4, scsi status
== 0xff

After this computer correct rebooting and don't run fsck. All services are
work correctly. What mean this error message and how can i solve this
problem?

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Re: Good way of upgrading from FreeBSD 4.5

2003-02-05 Thread Daniel Bye
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 03:20:32AM +0100, Johannes Angeldorff wrote:
 Dear FreeBSD:ers,
 
 I am happy to use FreeBSD for web, mail and applications serving. But
 when I come to the question about how to upgrade to a newer FreeBSD
 version, I really could need your expertise!
 
 We have two FreeBSD 4.5 boxes. Both boxes have been installed with
 FreeBSD 4.5 from CD, and then tweaked with reconfigured kernels and a
 few applications installed, mainly qmail (replacing sendmail),
 mod-php, mysql, pico and a few more. Both boxes have around 25 users
 each. Both boxes have tweaked settings in /etc/rc.conf and some other
 /etc/-files.
 
 My question is, if anyone can give a hint on how to upgrade safely
 from FreeBSD 4.5 to FreeBSD 5.0...?
 
 If we download FreeBSD 5.0 and install it on our FreeBSD 4.5 boxes,
 what will we have to do? Is there risk that all settings, contents
 and installed applications will be erased?
 
 Very thankful for all help on this matter...!

Do I understand from your mail that you use the machines for business
purposes?  If so, I would really think twice before upgrading to 5.0.
It is good, but not yet as stable as the more mature 4.x branch.  If 
you want to upgrade, then go as far as 4.7, and no further yet.

You will find good instructions on how to do this at 

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html

Following these instructions will ensure you have few problems, and all
your app configs will be safe.  But still, take a backup.  To upgrade to
4.7-STABLE, use the CVS tag RELENG_4.  To follow the 4.7 security branch,
use the tag RELENG_4_7.

If, however, your machines are not critical, then by all means try 5.0,
but be prepared for teething troubles.  See the Early Adopter's Guide at

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.0R/early-adopter.html

for more details of what to look out for.  I have never tried an upgrade
from 4.x to 5, so can't comment on how easy it is (I would think, though,
it would be fairly straightforward).  Your application configs _should_ be
safe, but take a backup.  Take a backup, sing it with me, take a backup!

I would probably go for a comletely fresh install, though, as there are
some fairly fundamental architectural changes between 4.x and 5.0.  A new
install (i.e. reworking your partition scheme, doing newfs, etc) will 
ensure there is no old stuff lying around to get in the way and confuse
things.

Dan

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Re: Minix fs offered

2003-02-05 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2003-02-04 12:28, Ed Alley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't have it available at this time because for one thing I don't
 know the best way to package it.  Since the FreeBSD source is a
 moving target, it doesn't make any sense to serve it up as a diff.

It's not difficult to create a diff for it though.  I think that you
should try running:

% cd /usr
% diff -ruN src.orig src  minix.patch

and then send minix.patch in a new problem report with send-pr(1).
This way, anyone interested in a minix fs will have a way of testing
your implementation  providing feedback (by following up to the PR).

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Re: building a VPN with FreeBSD 4.7p3

2003-02-05 Thread Marcel Stangenberger
  My intention is to have a webserver in a colocation at my ISP but have the
  databaseserver and imap server at another location. Since i use BasiliX
  for webmail access i would like to have a secure connection between these
  3 systems.

 I don't understand how vtun isn't what you're looking for?  I've used it for
 setups very similar to what you're describing.

 Perhaps a look at the vtun home page, which gives a better description
 of what all vtun can be used for.


I've read the website and i figured that vtun is for binding two networks
together. The problems that i have is that:

1. My FreeBSD internal system is not doing routing/nat, it has only one
   interface with an RFC1918 IP on it. The router is an Allied Data 810.
2. My FreeBSD webserver doesn't have an inside interface, only an outside.

i'll try to make an ascii drawing of the situation :

---
| mysql server|
---   |
192.168.0.2  |switch|
  |   |
  |   |
--|   | 192.168.0.1
| imap server|-   |router|
--| 100.100.100.100
192.168.0.4   |
   internet
---   |
|webserver|
---
200.200.200.200


I Hope this makes it a bit clearer, or you be able to tell me where i'm
wrong in this.

Marcel

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RE: Server locking hard -- A LOT!!!

2003-02-05 Thread Robert Covell
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Muhannad Asfour
 Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:25 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Server locking hard -- A LOT!!!


 Hello.  I've recently faced a rather odd issue that I've never seen
 before.  I bought a new server (specs below), and I loaded it up with
 FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE (I know, I know, not for a production environment,
 but this is a personal server).  Now, whenever I get about 30
 simultaneous connections, the box just locks hard.  I tested all the
 hardware components (CPU, Memory, HD, NIC, etc.) and even bought new
 ones just to make sure and all end up with the same result.  I can never
 keep a decent uptime (never went past 2 days so far).  As soon as I get
 a mediocre http load (30 simul. connections), the box just locks hard.
 I built a debug kernel, I tried everything imaginable, and I have not
 found a solution whatsoever.  Everyone seems to be stumped by this.  I
 tried FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE, 4.7-STABLE, 5.0-RELEASE and 5.0-CURRENT on
 this box.  All give me the same result.  I checked everywhere for
 relevant logs to explain what is occuring, but had no such luck.  This
 is truly the million dollar question for me right now, because I have no
 idea why it would lock under such a petty load.  I'm not sure what to do
 to fix this issue, I've tried many different areas for support and
 haven't come up with anything as I stated earlier.  I'm not overclocking
 or anything if that's what you're wondering.  If anyone could assist me
 in any way shape or form to get this working, I would appreciate it very
 very much.  Also, if you e-mail back, I'm not subscribed to the lists,
 so could you please CC it to me.  In the past 4 hours, it has locked
 hard about 3 times because of a 28-34 connection load.

 Machine Specs:
 Single Pentium IV 2.4 GHz processor
 ASUS P4S533 motherboard
 512MB DDR333 RAM (will be 1GB next week)
 120GB Maxtor 7200rpm (ATA133) HDD
 40GB Maxtor 7200 rpm (ATA66) HDD
 Floppy Disk Drive
 ATI Rage 128 (32 meg) AGP 4x graphics adapter
 52x LG CD-ROM drive
 3Com 3C905C-TX NIC
 Currently running FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT as of Sunday Feb. 2, 13:02:05 EST
 2003.

 Thank you very much



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I have seen things like this that are not software related at all but due to
a faulty power supply.  Did you replace that when you went out and bought
new hardware?  You might want to try and take off your CD-ROM and or the
secondary HD.  This will cut back on your power usage and might be a good
test.  If it still does it, get a new power supply that has enough juice.

Sincerely,

Robert T. Covell
President / Owner
Rolet Internet Services, LLC
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RE: Server locking hard -- A LOT!!!

2003-02-05 Thread Forrest W. Christian
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Robert Covell wrote:

  haven't come up with anything as I stated earlier.  I'm not overclocking
  or anything if that's what you're wondering.  If anyone could assist me
  in any way shape or form to get this working, I would appreciate it very
  very much.  Also, if you e-mail back, I'm not subscribed to the lists,
  so could you please CC it to me.  In the past 4 hours, it has locked
  hard about 3 times because of a 28-34 connection load.

Cooling problems also match this symptom set.  (CPU sleeps less when
loaded)  Do you have adequate cooling in this box?

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Re: need some advice on MTA

2003-02-05 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-02-05 13:37:05 +0100:
 On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 01:02:29PM +0100, Roman Neuhauser wrote:
  I run four Postfixes (one of them with Courier-IMAP), and one Qmail
  with vpopmail.
  
  Postfix is IMO easier to install and administer, but doesn't have a
  point'n'click interface.
  
  It also looks like Postfix is a much faster moving target than
  Qmail, e. g. the virtual address/mailbox support has been evolving
  quite a lot, and the configuration changed in Postfix-2.
  
  I wouldn't recommend Courier; I don't know the SMTP part of the
  pack, but the IMAP server is pretty admin-hostile in that it doesn't
  log almost anything at all, so when you run into trouble, you're
  left to guessing, and hacking the source.
 
 Courier-IMAP is not admin-hostile. You can enable debugging, and it
 will log a lot of information.

I had a PEBKAC case with Courier-IMAP, and had to add a few writes
to get anything useful in /var/log/messages. If the code isn't
there, turning a debugging switch on won't buy you much. :)

Note that this was one particular problem, and one particular piece
of code. It might be different in 95% of Courier FWIW, but that was
not my experience.

 The SMTP server and client part of courier is also nice, robust and
 friendly to other sites, and has many useful features (RBL checking,
 rejecting spam, flexible aliasing, SMTP authentication, SSL support)
 all out of the box.

I didn't say Courier didn't have all that. BTW, I use RBL checks,
virtual domains, static routes (non-MX-based relaying), and whatnot
with Postfix. All out of the box. :)

 And if you install the entire courier suite, you also get a POP
 server, webmail server and mailing list manager, and a webadmin CGI to
 configure it all easily.

Postfix has neither of that, as I said in my previous post (doesn't
have a point'n'click interface). It's only an MTA. I'm happy with
what it is, and how it does its job. That's all.

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atapi tape drives with freebsd

2003-02-05 Thread Manuel Hendel
I got a Seagate Hornet ATAPI Tage Drive. Actually this should work
with /dev/ast0 but I always get mt: /dev/ast0: Device not configured
when I try to do a mt -f /dev/ast0 rewind.
Does anyone know where to find a documentation for this? Or can anyone
help me?

Thanks in advance,

Manuel

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Re: questions about space and RAID

2003-02-05 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-01-24 19:32:55 -0500:
 At work, I just bought a new P4 Dell Server with an 80G mirrored IDE
 RAID.
 
 Supposed, it is configured (I haven't had a chance to play with it yet)
 to have the drives hardware mirrored.  Will I need to setup FreeBSD to
 recognize this, aside from just loading the RAID card in the kernel?

no.
 
 the other thing is with the 80GIG size.  what kind of filesystem
 settings should I use?  (like block size etc)

see newfs(8), and search the archive. i think the defaults will be
fine, but that also depends on the data you'll be storing (average
file size)
 
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Re: Problem with kernel rebuit

2003-02-05 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2003-02-05 11:42, iulian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello!
 I have 5.0 Release and I reconfigured my kernel for sound card.
 Everything was going fine, no errors, but my new kernel doesn't loaded.
 What should I do?
 Thanks!

Make sure your /boot/loader.conf does't point to /kernel for the
kernel location.  The kernel in 5.X versions is /boot/kernel/kernel.
Your /boot/loader.conf file should, minimally, include:

userconfig_script_load=YES
bootfile=/boot/kernel/kernel

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x config question for PLE133 chipset

2003-02-05 Thread Aaron
Hello all,

I'm wondering if anyone knows what driver I should be using in X
configuration for the  VIA PLE133 chipset.
I have it working with no model selected and using the generic Trident. It
works but it is not optimized. It is not detected with the generic kernel.
This is one of the new FIC mini ITX boards with the Via C3 cpu.

Thanks,
Aaron


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modem and other problems with 5.0-RELEASE

2003-02-05 Thread Crni Gorac
Got number of problems with 5.0-RELEASE.  In order of
decreasing importance:

1. Am completely unable to figure out kernel settings
for modem.  Got US Robotics 56K internal modem, that
is working perfectly on same machine with 4.6-RELEASE.
 I had to put only device sio at pci? in my kernel
config file for 4.6 to have modem to answer at cuaa0. 
Now, I have device sio in my kernel config file fo
5.0 and have tried number of combinations with
/boot/device.hints settings without any success.  If I
delete all sio lines from /boot/device.hints, modem
is reported during boot as sio0, but hangs whole
system when I try to dial out.  If I delete only lines
sio.n (n=0,1,2,3) from /boot/device.hints (e.g.
sio.0) modem is again reported (and eventually
rellocated) and again hangs whole system.  Any help
here?

2. Mozilla 1.2b_2 hangs (I need it for Galeon2).  On
first run after
install, everything went fine, but after that it hangs
with Bus error (after large delay) each time.

3. CUPS daemon hangs whole system when trying to run
it.

4. Tripwire port seems to be broken, right?

Any help, especially regarding item 1, would be much
appreciated.

Thanks.


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Re: running freebsd os cobalt machines ?

2003-02-05 Thread Volker Kindermann
Thomas,

 We are about to inherit some cobalt raq or qube serves from another 
 company. Now i dont know anything about except that they run some 
 flavour of unix. Is it possible to run freebsd on those.

it depends on the version of the Cobalt's. RaQ2 and before had mips
processors. I don't think that freebsd will run on them.

RaQ3 and later have normal i386 architecture so it should work.

Please be aware that cobalt has some strange booting recommendations. A
fellow installed netbsd on a raq2 and had to format the root Partition
with ext2 filesystem and so on.

With my experience regarding the hardware failures of cobalt's, I
wouldn't give very much money for them.

 -volker


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Re: Booting issue.

2003-02-05 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Yann Golanski [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
 I have two hard drives in my machine, the first one has several partions
 with Window 2000 as the main OS.  The second one has several partions
 with FreeBSD on it.  
 I have installed the BSD boot loader onto the MBR of the second HD.  It
 shows two options: F1 for FreeBSD and F5 for drive 5.  Both options boot
 onto the same FreeBSD.  Which means that I have to change the order of
 the boot drives in the BIOS each time I switch OS which is lame. 
 What have I done wrong with the Boot loader?  How can I tell it to look
 at BOTH hard drives so that I can have one boot loader for both disks?

From the sound of things, what you've done wrong is get the two drives
backwards. The first drive is the FreeBSD drive, and the second drive
is the Windows drive. Windows won't boot off the second drive in the
system, not without more magic from the boot loader than booteasy can
perform. That means that F1 must be Windows.

You need to install the boot loader on the Windows drive, and swap the
drives. The swap may be something you can do in the BIOS.
Alternatively, you can install a more capable boot loader, like
grub. It can swap the drives so Windows can boot off a second drive.

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Re: running freebsd os cobalt machines ?

2003-02-05 Thread Thomas von Hassel

On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 07:32 AM, Thomas von Hassel wrote:


We are about to inherit some cobalt raq or qube serves from another  
company. Now i dont know anything about except that they run some  
flavour of unix. Is it possible to run freebsd on those. Now i know  
that by doing that your scrap the fancy webinterface but i dont really  
need that anyways :)

/thomas


i know someone asked this question before:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=741670+743773+/usr/local/ 
www/db/text/2003/freebsd-questions/20030105.freebsd-questions

But no one answered the man  ...can anyone tell us if it can or cannot  
be done ?

/thomas



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Unable to boot 5.0-R CD error

2003-02-05 Thread Stephen Cravey
I'm getting an error when trying to boot any of the 5.0-RELEASE cd's
something like:

CD Loader 1.01
Building txxx boot loader arguments
Could not find primary volume descriptor


and then it dies there. txxx is illegible in my notes, but somehow I don't
think that is significant. When booting from floppy, I have to install
additional drivers from the driver floppy to be able to install from CD.

The device line from dmesg after installation is:

acd0: CDROM GCD-R580B at ata1-master PIO3

I have a vague recollection of a problem similar to this sometime in the
4.x tree, but specifics totally escape me.



-Stephen

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Re: Help required for Installation on BSD 4.1 OS

2003-02-05 Thread Adam Maas

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From: Mangoli, Girish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 5:16 AM
Subject: Help required for Installation on BSD 4.1 OS


 HI ,

 I would like to know if it is possible to install BSD 4.1 on Compaq
Proliant
 DL 380 G2 server with 5ie scsi embeded controller. If yes where will I get
 the Boot diskettes for installation the OS with 5ie drives..

 Thanks  Regards
 Girish B Mangoli



You'd likely be better off trying the current stable version, which is 4.7.
All supported hardware is listed on the FreeBSD webpage, and all install
disks are available as images from the FreeBSD webpage.

Adam


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Re: running freebsd os cobalt machines ?

2003-02-05 Thread Dan Delaney
On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 10:34 AM, Thomas von Hassel wrote:

i know someone asked this question before:
But no one answered the man  ...can anyone tell us if it can or cannot 
be done ?

Personally, I doubt it. The Cobalt is not a generic machine, and it 
runs a highly modified version of RedHat Linux. To install a new 
version of RedHat onto it you have to install it onto the drive on 
ANOTHER machine, apply the kernel patches, then put the drive back into 
the Cobalt. The reason I doubt that you could put a BSD on it is 
because of these Linux kernel patches that are needed to even make the 
OS boot up on the Cobalt.

But who knows. I've never tried putting a BSD on a Cobalt, but I have 
put a new version of RedHat on one. It's a pain. Read through the 
following site (which explains how to get a new version of RedHat on a 
Cobalt) and see if you think it would work for a BSD.

http://www.gurulabs.com/rhl-cobalt-howto/

Cheers
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FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE and pcm

2003-02-05 Thread Lord Sith
I have a basic install of FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE on an older system (ABIT-BH6 
motherboard, Celeron 400)

It has an older Vibra16 soundcard in it, which it can detect:
sbc0: Creative ViBRA16C at port 0x388-0x38b,0x330-0x331,0x220-0x22f irq 5 
drq 5,1 on isa0


However, the system does not create a pcm0 device so when you cat 
/dev/sndstat there is nothing:
FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm)
Installed devices:

I tried putting in some pcm hints in /boot/device.hints as is mentioned in 
the pcm man page, but nothing happens.

Is there anything else I can try?

Should I try the -current mailing list?

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Re: running freebsd os cobalt machines ?

2003-02-05 Thread Thomas von Hassel
On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 04:58 PM, Dan Delaney wrote:


On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 10:34 AM, Thomas von Hassel wrote:

i know someone asked this question before:
But no one answered the man  ...can anyone tell us if it can or 
cannot be done ?

Personally, I doubt it. The Cobalt is not a generic machine, and it 
runs a highly modified version of RedHat Linux. To install a new 
version of RedHat onto it you have to install it onto the drive on 
ANOTHER machine, apply the kernel patches, then put the drive back 
into the Cobalt. The reason I doubt that you could put a BSD on it is 
because of these Linux kernel patches that are needed to even make the 
OS boot up on the Cobalt.

But who knows. I've never tried putting a BSD on a Cobalt, but I have 
put a new version of RedHat on one. It's a pain. Read through the 
following site (which explains how to get a new version of RedHat on a 
Cobalt) and see if you think it would work for a BSD.

http://www.gurulabs.com/rhl-cobalt-howto/

ok thanx, i dont even know yet how old the machines are and what models 
they are.

I just dont like to run productions servers on 3 year old technology 
with no possibility to upgrade/secure them



/thomas


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Re: Apache built correctly?

2003-02-05 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Mike Loiterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
 On Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:11 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Mike Loiterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  Absolutly nothing appears in the httpd-access.log file when I try to
  access the index.html. 
  
  When I try to do http://localhost I get nothing.  Just this:
  unable to connect to remote host.
  
  I've restarted apache many times with the same results.  I restarted
  my machine with the same results. 
  
  I can telnet into port 80 but Apache doesn't appear to answer. 
  Something tells me that the daemon isn't running correctly or that
  Apache was installed incorrectly, although 'ps -aux | grep httpd'
  shows:   
  
  What does doesn't appear to answer mean?  The fact that you can
  telnet in tells you that it isn't a network-layer issue.  Did you try
  a legitimate HTTP request?
 
 Well I telnet to 80 and it just says refused:
 
 [02:22:47 root@little_boy: /etc/mail]# telnet localhost 80
 Trying 127.0.0.1...
 telnet: connect to address 127.0.0.1: Connection refused
 telnet: Unable to connect to remote host

Ah.  So you *can't* telnet into port 80.  That's different.
Use sockstat(1) to see if anything is bound to port 80, and look at
firewall rules to see if something's blocking it before it gets there.

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Re: atapi tape drives with freebsd

2003-02-05 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Manuel Hendel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I got a Seagate Hornet ATAPI Tage Drive. Actually this should work
 with /dev/ast0 but I always get mt: /dev/ast0: Device not configured
 when I try to do a mt -f /dev/ast0 rewind.
 Does anyone know where to find a documentation for this?

Well, man ast to start with...

  Or can anyone
 help me?

Assuming you have the device in your kernel (it *is* part of the
GENERIC kernel), make sure that /dev/ast0 actually exists.

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Re: Too many files open / file: table is full

2003-02-05 Thread Kenzo
I had the same issue.
increasing the maxuser in the kernel and recompiling was the answer.



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From: Ruben de Groot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: aSe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: FreeBSD-Questions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 7:52 AM
Subject: Re: Too many files open / file: table is full



 Hi Gordon,

 On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 06:16:26PM -0500, aSe typed:
  Recently, one of the machines I help to admin ran into problems and had
to be rebooted.
  The machine uptime was about 40days and one of the techs told me it
became unresponsive and any command he typed into term it responded Too
many files open. Checking the logs now i see the below at the very same
time. It is 4.7-Release, I will be more then happy to post more information
if requested. Right now I'm just trying to figure out what happen and how to
fix. I know for a fact the 13gb drive had over 7gb free, so is there a
setting where I can adjust the number of open files?

 This is not a matter of diskspace. The kernel holds a fixed length table
 in memory with all open files. If this table gets full it usually means
 one of two things:

 1) You have a runaway application, opening way too many files. Identify
 the application and fix or disable it.

 2) You're running a kernel with a too low value for maxusers (which,
 among other things, determines the maximum amount of open files). The
 default in 4.7-RELEASE is 0, which means: optimize according to amount
 of memory installed. The default is usually O.K. If not, one option is
 to simply install more memory.

 cheers,
 Ruben


 
 
  Jan 22 21:22:18 Fail /kernel: le: table is full
  Jan 22 21:22:18 Fail /kernel: file: table is full
  Jan 22 21:22:18 Fail last message repeated 1450 times
  Jan 22 21:22:18 Fail /kernel: le: table is full
  Jan 22 21:22:18 Fail /kernel: file: table is full
 
  Thank you,
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Re: Xft-2.1 port problems

2003-02-05 Thread Michael Barrett
I've currently got the XFree86-4.2.0_1,1 port installed.
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 02:54:31AM -0500, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 02:39, Michael Barrett wrote:
  Hi,
  
  So tonight I went to try and upgrade my gkrellm2 port, and found that it 
failed when dealing with a file that was part of my Xft port.  I currently have 
Xft-2.0_1 installed.  I went to do a portupgrade of Xft, and this is the error I keep 
getting:
  
  gcc -O -pipe  -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/X11R6/include 
-I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -fPIC -DPIC 
-c xftdpy.c -o xftdpy.o
  xftdpy.c: In function `XftDefaultSubstitute':
  xftdpy.c:484: `FC_RGBA_UNKNOWN' undeclared (first use in this function)
  xftdpy.c:484: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
  xftdpy.c:484: for each function it appears in.)
  gmake: *** [xftdpy.o] Error 1
  *** Error code 2
  
  Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/Xft.
  ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade93740.0 
make
  ** Fix the problem and try again.
  ** The following packages were not installed or upgraded (*:skipped / !:failed)
  ! x11-fonts/Xft (Xft-2.0_1) (compiler error)
  
  
  =
  
  Anyone have any idea what might be causing this?  I've tried going into 
/usr/ports/x11-fonts/Xft and doing a make deinstall, but my ports no longer point at 
Xft-2.0_1, they point to 2.1 and so it doesn't seem to think Xft is installed (even 
though I see it installed in /var/db/pkg).  Anyways, any help I can get on this would 
be much appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
 
 What version of XFree86 do you have installed?
 
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2003-02-05 Thread Training Line
Title: Êëþ÷åâûå íàâûêè êîììóíèêàöèè. Êóðñ äëÿ ðóêîâîäèòåëÿ. Ïðåçåíòàöèè, ñîâåùàíèÿ, ïåðåãîâîðû.





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Ýìîöèîíàëüíûå "ñïåöýôôåêòû": êàê ñäåëàòü ïðåçåíòàöèþ çàïîìèíàþùåéñÿ? 


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Àêòåðñêîå èñêóññòâî è èìèäæ: êàê ñäåëàòü çàðàíåå ïîäãîòîâëåííîå âûñòóïëåíèå æèâûì? 
Ñàìîðåãóëÿöèÿ: êàê ðàçâèòü óâåðåííîñòü â ñåáå è ïðåîäîëåòü ñòðåññ? 
Ðàáîòà ñ êîììóíèêàöèåé: êàê íàëàæèâàòü è ïîääåðæèâàòü êîíòàêò ñ àóäèòîðèåé? Êàê ñïðàâëÿòüñÿ ñ "òðóäíûìè" ó÷àñòíèêàìè?   
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Want to add libkern/ucmpdi2.c into sys/conf/files.i386

2003-02-05 Thread Fu Ming
Hi,

I want to add libkern/ucmpdi2.c into my customised kernel. It was requried
by a third party loadable kernel module.  The problem I have is I don't want
to add it as standard. How do I add it as optional? more specifically:

libkern/ucmpdi2.coptionalthirdparty

Where should I define the thirdparty, it is not a device driver. I try to
learn from the way those ipsec dependent files were added. However, I can't
find where the ipsec was defined as well.

Best Regards,


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ports changes?

2003-02-05 Thread pippo
Does anyone know or understand what is going on in the ports collection - 
at this moment, there seems to be a problem with the kdegames3 port - it 
just doesn't seem to be there, thus preventing the update of the kde3 group 
of programs.
I have noticed this a number of times with different programs over a period 
of time - is this due to changes that are not uploaded or announced? 
Portupgrade kind of stumbles over such changes and it means that we poor 
shlubs have to do a lot of uninstalling and reinstalling if we want to 
update those programs. Sometimes this even messes up the programs that are 
being updated.   :((
PJ



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Re: Launch X at boot

2003-02-05 Thread Ian Barnes

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From: J. Seth Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 7:26 PM
Subject: Launch X at boot


 I know this is probably an obvious question, but so far my attempts at
 writing a script to do this have failed.

 I would like to launch X windows at boot, and have it query an xdm server.
 I attempted to put a script with:

 #/bin/sh
 /usr/X11R6/bin/X -query whitetower

 in my /usr/local/etc/rc.d directory. When I boot, though, I get nothing -
 not even error messages. I did check that the file permissions were set
 (700) - and it works if I run it from the command line (after logging in)

 Am I missing something?

 Thanks,
 Seth Henry


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Hi,

In your /etc/ttys file.. make the last one :

ttyv(whatever your last one is)   /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon  xterm   on
secure

Reboot, and then it should start xdm... if you are running KDE, you could
use KDM, and i dont know about gnome and all the others, but im sure they
have loaders aswell.

Ian


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Re: ports changes?

2003-02-05 Thread Miguel Mendez
On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 12:19:40 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone know or understand what is going on in the ports
 collection - at this moment, there seems to be a problem with the
 kdegames3 port - it just doesn't seem to be there, thus preventing the
 update of the kde3 group of programs.

Huh?

flynn@christine# cd /usr/ports/games/kdegames3/
flynn@christine# cat distinfo 
MD5 (KDE/kdegames-3.1.tar.bz2) = cfc3fef5f162dc7ecd9465a11bdf9b1b

When did you cvsup? In fact, I have KDE 3.1 running here, and can tell
you, Kolf rocks :)

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Perl 5.6.1

2003-02-05 Thread MULCAHY, CHRISTOPHER H (Chris), SOLGV
Is Perl version 5.6.1 available? If so, how can I get it?

Chris Mulcahy
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handling non-printable characters in file names

2003-02-05 Thread Walter
Hi all,

   Leaving out the details, I need to know how to
navigate directories and remove files that use non-
printable characters in their names. du and ls show
me they're there, but I can't figure out how to make
cd work, or rm either.  Fwiw, the non-printable char
is \225.  Lynx was not able to see the directory
either, but maybe because it began with a .  -
I don't know.

   Also, is there a way to configure FBSD from accepting
non-printable characters in file names?

Thanks in advance.

Walter


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permissions for /tmp ???

2003-02-05 Thread P. U. Kruppa
Hi!

Cleaning up my system I accidentally deleted my /tmp directory
- it had grown to 462M, though I couldn't find any files as
big as that.

Anyway: I created a new one, rebooted my system and everything
seems to work all-right.

Please could someone send me the default permissions of /tmp ?
I wouldn't like to leave a drwxrwxrwx hole in my system if it
isn't necessary.

Thanks,

Uli.


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make buildworld failed (crypto related)

2003-02-05 Thread Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim
Hello all,

I cvsup'ed my source early today and modified OpenSSH and OpenSSL to point to 
the ports collection. I modified make.conf to reflect my changes

OPENSSH_OVERWRITE_BASE = true
OPENSSL_OVERWRITE_BASE = true

AND

NO_OPENSSH = true
NO_OPENSSL = true

The OpenSSH came from /usr/ports/security/openssh-portable while OpenSSL, 
/usr/ports/security/openssl and the upgrading processes to replace the ones 
on the base system were problem free.

Later while rebuilding my world, I encountered an error. I used the -j10 flag 
so I remove the -j10 to get the real error as from where the error is 
generating. So here's the snippet the error messages,

I haven't try -DNOCRYPT option for fear that it would break the base system.

--
mkdep -f .depend -a-DENCRYPTION -DAUTHENTICATION -DSRA 
-I/usr/src/secure/lib/libtelnet/../../../crypto/telnet 
-I/usr/src/secure/lib/libtelnet/../../../crypto/telnet/libtelnet -DNO_IDEA  
/usr/src/secure/lib/libtelnet/../../../crypto/telnet/libtelnet/genget.c 
/usr/src/secure/lib/libtelnet/../../../crypto/telnet/libtelnet/getent.c 
/usr/src/secure/lib/libtelnet/../../../crypto/telnet/libtelnet/misc.c 
/usr/src/secure/lib/libtelnet/../../../crypto/telnet/libtelnet/encrypt.c 
/usr/src/secure/lib/libtelnet/../../../crypto/telnet/libtelnet/auth.c 
/usr/src/secure/lib/libtelnet/../../../crypto/telnet/libtelnet/enc_des.c 
/usr/src/secure/lib/libtelnet/../../../crypto/telnet/libtelnet/sra.c 
/usr/src/secure/lib/libtelnet/../../../crypto/telnet/libtelnet/pk.c
In file included from 
/usr/src/secure/lib/libtelnet/../../../crypto/telnet/libtelnet/misc.c:53:
/usr/src/secure/lib/libtelnet/../../../crypto/telnet/libtelnet/encrypt.h:64: 
openssl/des.h: No such file or directory
In file included from 
/usr/src/secure/lib/libtelnet/../../../crypto/telnet/libtelnet/encrypt.c:72:
/usr/src/secure/lib/libtelnet/../../../crypto/telnet/libtelnet/encrypt.h:64: 
openssl/des.h: No such file or directory
In file included from 
/usr/src/secure/lib/libtelnet/../../../crypto/telnet/libtelnet/auth.c:75:
/usr/src/secure/lib/libtelnet/../../../crypto/telnet/libtelnet/encrypt.h:64: 
openssl/des.h: No such file or directory
/usr/src/secure/lib/libtelnet/../../../crypto/telnet/libtelnet/enc_des.c:47: 
openssl/des.h: No such file or directory
In file included from 
/usr/src/secure/lib/libtelnet/../../../crypto/telnet/libtelnet/enc_des.c:52:
/usr/src/secure/lib/libtelnet/../../../crypto/telnet/libtelnet/encrypt.h:64: 
openssl/des.h: No such file or directory
In file included from 
/usr/src/secure/lib/libtelnet/../../../crypto/telnet/libtelnet/sra.c:54:
/usr/src/secure/lib/libtelnet/../../../crypto/telnet/libtelnet/encrypt.h:64: 
openssl/des.h: No such file or directory
/usr/src/secure/lib/libtelnet/../../../crypto/telnet/libtelnet/pk.c:47: 
openssl/des.h: No such file or directory
mkdep: compile failed
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/secure/lib/libtelnet.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/secure/lib.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1
--

I would be thoroughly delighted if someone can guide me around this. Thanks in 
advance

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Re: Xft-2.1 port problems

2003-02-05 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 11:59, Michael Barrett wrote:
 I've currently got the XFree86-4.2.0_1,1 port installed.

Make sure you have the latest version of fontconfig installed before
installing Xft.

Joe

 On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 02:54:31AM -0500, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
  On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 02:39, Michael Barrett wrote:
   Hi,
   
   So tonight I went to try and upgrade my gkrellm2 port, and found that it 
failed when dealing with a file that was part of my Xft port.  I currently have 
Xft-2.0_1 installed.  I went to do a portupgrade of Xft, and this is the error I keep 
getting:
   
   gcc -O -pipe  -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/X11R6/include 
-I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -fPIC -DPIC 
-c xftdpy.c -o xftdpy.o
   xftdpy.c: In function `XftDefaultSubstitute':
   xftdpy.c:484: `FC_RGBA_UNKNOWN' undeclared (first use in this function)
   xftdpy.c:484: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
   xftdpy.c:484: for each function it appears in.)
   gmake: *** [xftdpy.o] Error 1
   *** Error code 2
   
   Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/Xft.
   ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade93740.0 
make
   ** Fix the problem and try again.
   ** The following packages were not installed or upgraded (*:skipped / 
!:failed)
   ! x11-fonts/Xft (Xft-2.0_1) (compiler error)
   
   
   =
   
   Anyone have any idea what might be causing this?  I've tried going into 
/usr/ports/x11-fonts/Xft and doing a make deinstall, but my ports no longer point at 
Xft-2.0_1, they point to 2.1 and so it doesn't seem to think Xft is installed (even 
though I see it installed in /var/db/pkg).  Anyways, any help I can get on this would 
be much appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
  
  What version of XFree86 do you have installed?
  
  Joe
  
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Re: ports changes?

2003-02-05 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 12:19:40PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anyone know or understand what is going on in the ports collection - 
 at this moment, there seems to be a problem with the kdegames3 port - it 
 just doesn't seem to be there, thus preventing the update of the kde3 group 
 of programs.
 I have noticed this a number of times with different programs over a period 
 of time - is this due to changes that are not uploaded or announced? 
 Portupgrade kind of stumbles over such changes and it means that we poor 
 shlubs have to do a lot of uninstalling and reinstalling if we want to 
 update those programs. Sometimes this even messes up the programs that are 
 being updated.   :((
 PJ

Given that kdegames3 does, in fact, exist in the expected place, it is
likely that the others problems are also in your local ports collection,
not FreeBSD.

Kris



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Re: make buildworld failed (crypto related)

2003-02-05 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 02:38:34AM +0800, Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 I cvsup'ed my source early today and modified OpenSSH and OpenSSL to point to 
 the ports collection. I modified make.conf to reflect my changes

You forgot to mention which release you're running.

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Re: Perl 5.6.1

2003-02-05 Thread David Kelly
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 01:18:07PM -0500, MULCAHY, CHRISTOPHER H (Chris), SOLGV wrote:
 Is Perl version 5.6.1 available? If so, how can I get it?

/usr/ports/lang/perl5

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Re: handling non-printable characters in file names

2003-02-05 Thread Nathan Kinkade
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 01:28:57PM -0500, Walter wrote:
 Hi all,
 
Leaving out the details, I need to know how to
 navigate directories and remove files that use non-
 printable characters in their names. du and ls show
 me they're there, but I can't figure out how to make
 cd work, or rm either.  Fwiw, the non-printable char
 is \225.  Lynx was not able to see the directory
 either, but maybe because it began with a .  -
 I don't know.
 
Also, is there a way to configure FBSD from accepting
 non-printable characters in file names?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Walter

Generally, there are several things to try with difficult file names:

1) Try quoting the spuriously named files (try double and single)
2) Add a ./ in front of the filename
3) Try letting the shell expand the filename for you by typing the first
few characters and then pressing the Tab key.
4) Trying escaping any unruly characters with a ``\

These suggestions don't necessarily apply directly to your situation,
bur rather are some things to try when file names are being difficult.

Good luck,
Nathan

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Re: building a VPN with FreeBSD 4.7p3

2003-02-05 Thread Marcel Stangenberger
 Well, nat is definately not a requirement for a vtun, it's just that it's
 such a common scenerio that it gets lots of howtos written about it.


ok, i'll try to set it up without the usage of NAT

 And I would bet that (if you're using RFC-1918 addys as you say) that you
 really _are_ using nat.  It's just not FreeBSD that's doing it, it's probably
 the router in your diagram that has built-in nat capabilities.


you're correct on that.
i've just lost my connection to the testmachine on another network so i
can't continue the test now, tomorrow will be the soonest

Marcel

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FreeBSD 5.0: Disable IPv6 for NFS

2003-02-05 Thread George Mitchell
I've just upgraded one machine on my network to FreeBSD 5.0.  It is
working very well!  However, there is an annoying one minute timeout
for each NFS mount as the 5.0 machine tries to use IPv6 UDP to contact
the NFS server which is (for now) not running IPv6 NFS.  Can I persaude
the 5.0 machine not to use IPv6 for NFS, short of patching and recom-
piling some piece of the kernel?

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Re: make buildworld failed (crypto related)

2003-02-05 Thread Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim
On Thursday 06 February 2003 02:53, Kris Kennaway wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 02:38:34AM +0800, Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim wrote:
  Hello all,
 
  I cvsup'ed my source early today and modified OpenSSH and OpenSSL to
  point to the ports collection. I modified make.conf to reflect my changes

 You forgot to mention which release you're running.

 Kris

Sorry, I'm running 4.7-Stable.

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trouble with tripwire

2003-02-05 Thread benjamin everist
Hello -

I am trying to install tripwire-2.3.1-2 on freebsd 4.7 release.  using:
#make all install clean
or
#make
#make install
from /usr/ports/security/tripwire yields the following:

Verifying existence of binaries...

./bin/i386-unknown-freebsd_r/siggen missing.  Build did not complete 
successfully.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/security/tripwire.

If i untar the source and compile in /usr/local, making sure to edit the 
master Makefile (/tripwire/src/Makefile) for freebsd, i get:
#gmake release
grind grind grind
c++ -I../stlport -Wall -W -Wno-sign-compare -Wno-unused -Wno-uninitialized 
-ftem
plate-depth-32 -O2 num_put_float.cpp -c -o obj/GCC/Release/num_put_float.o
num_put_float.cpp:50: values.h: No such file or directory
gmake[4]: *** [obj/GCC/Release/num_put_float.o] Error 1
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/tripwire-2.3.1-2/src/STLport-4.0/src'
gmake[3]: *** [lib/libstlport_gcc.a] Error 2
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/tripwire-2.3.1-2/src/STLport-4.0'
gmake[2]: *** [../../lib/i386-unknown-freebsd_r/libstlport_gcc.a] Error 2
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/tripwire-2.3.1-2/src/STLport-4.0'
gmake[1]: *** [STLport_r] Error 2
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/tripwire-2.3.1-2/src'
date  release.i386-unknown-freebsd.out

Any help would be much appreciated.

Benjamin Everist


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Re: ports changes?

2003-02-05 Thread pippo
At 06:35 PM 2/5/2003 +0100, you wrote:

On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 12:19:40 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone know or understand what is going on in the ports
 collection - at this moment, there seems to be a problem with the
 kdegames3 port - it just doesn't seem to be there, thus preventing the
 update of the kde3 group of programs.

Huh?

flynn@christine# cd /usr/ports/games/kdegames3/
flynn@christine# cat distinfo
MD5 (KDE/kdegames-3.1.tar.bz2) = cfc3fef5f162dc7ecd9465a11bdf9b1b

When did you cvsup?


About half an hour before I posted - now, several hours ago. I just checked 
the fbsd site and there are no sources for kdegames-3.0.4  :((
I've been trying to update kde3 for several days, now, and I had a problem 
with /audio/arts first, and now with kdegames - weird And it ain't me, 
mate, if the stuff isn't on the site, where is it?

 In fact, I have KDE 3.1 running here, and can tell
you, Kolf rocks :)

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Re: ports changes?

2003-02-05 Thread pippo
At 10:51 AM 2/5/2003 -0800, you wrote:
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 12:19:40PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anyone know or understand what is going on in the ports collection -
 at this moment, there seems to be a problem with the kdegames3 port - it
 just doesn't seem to be there, thus preventing the update of the kde3 group
 of programs.
 I have noticed this a number of times with different programs over a period
 of time - is this due to changes that are not uploaded or announced?
 Portupgrade kind of stumbles over such changes and it means that we poor
 shlubs have to do a lot of uninstalling and reinstalling if we want to
 update those programs. Sometimes this even messes up the programs that are
 being updated.   :((
 PJ

Given that kdegames3 does, in fact, exist in the expected place,

What place might that be? I just checked at www.freebsd.org in the ports 
collection, and there are no sources for kdegames-3.0.4 :((

it is
likely that the others problems are also in your local ports collection,
not FreeBSD.

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RE: Apache built correctly?

2003-02-05 Thread Mike Loiterman
 
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 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 Mike Loiterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Absolutly nothing appears in the httpd-access.log file when I try
 to access the index.html. 
 
 When I try to do http://localhost I get nothing.  Just this:
 unable to connect to remote host.
 
 I've restarted apache many times with the same results.  I
 restarted my machine with the same results.
 
 I can telnet into port 80 but Apache doesn't appear to answer.
 Something tells me that the daemon isn't running correctly or that
 Apache was installed incorrectly, although 'ps -aux | grep httpd'
 shows:
 
 What does doesn't appear to answer mean?  The fact that you can
 telnet in tells you that it isn't a network-layer issue.  Did you
 try a legitimate HTTP request?
 
 Well I telnet to 80 and it just says refused:
 
 [02:22:47 root@little_boy: /etc/mail]# telnet localhost 80 Trying
 127.0.0.1... telnet: connect to address 127.0.0.1: Connection refused
 telnet: Unable to connect to remote host
 
 Ah.  So you *can't* telnet into port 80.  That's different.
 Use sockstat(1) to see if anything is bound to port 80, and look at
 firewall rules to see if something's blocking it before it gets there.

[13:41:19 root@little_boy: /etc/mail]# sockstat | grep 80
www  httpd  30322 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*
www  httpd  30321 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*
www  httpd  30320 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*
www  httpd  30319 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*
www  httpd  30318 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*
root httpd  30309 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*

Hrmm...seems to be bound to thr right ports???  I'm not sure how to check the firewall 
rules, as this machine is already behind a firewall.  Even so, wouldn't the 
http://localhost bypass any firewall stuff?

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Re: ports changes?

2003-02-05 Thread Kent Stewart
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 11:39 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 06:35 PM 2/5/2003 +0100, you wrote:
 On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 12:19:40 -0500
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Does anyone know or understand what is going on in the ports
   collection - at this moment, there seems to be a problem with the
   kdegames3 port - it just doesn't seem to be there, thus
   preventing the update of the kde3 group of programs.
 
 Huh?
 
 flynn@christine# cd /usr/ports/games/kdegames3/
 flynn@christine# cat distinfo
 MD5 (KDE/kdegames-3.1.tar.bz2) = cfc3fef5f162dc7ecd9465a11bdf9b1b
 
 When did you cvsup?

 About half an hour before I posted - now, several hours ago. I just
 checked the fbsd site and there are no sources for kdegames-3.0.4 
 :(( I've been trying to update kde3 for several days, now, and I had
 a problem with /audio/arts first, and now with kdegames - weird
 And it ain't me, mate, if the stuff isn't on the site, where is it?

ftp://ftp.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.1/src/

Which is the master mirror site for kde in the US.

Kent


   In fact, I have KDE 3.1 running here, and can tell
 you, Kolf rocks :)
 
 Cheers,
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freebsd vidcontrol vs linux console

2003-02-05 Thread Wiroth Didier
Hey,

I know that there have been a lot of post about changing
the console resolution in freebsd using:
vidcontrol  adding options VESA ord VGA_WIDTH90 etc and
recompiling the Kernel etc..

I've tried linux a few times but I personaly didn't like
it, except for example the console resolutions you could
achieve by adding for example: vga=775 to the lilo.conf
file which gave you a console of 1280x1024 with 256 colours
which was really nice on a 21 Monitor! The fonts were also
very nice in the linux console! I still have problems to
understand why this can't be done that nice and softly on
FreeBSD. 

What is the problem/or barrier in freebsd why you can't get
such a nice resolution? 

I saw that in FreeBSD 5 there was an addition saying this:
A VESA S3 linear framebuffer driver has been added Has
this something to do with what I'm asking?

If someone could clarrify me about the problem, it would be
very nice.

Thanks a lot
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CUPS problems

2003-02-05 Thread stan
I cvsup'd main  ports this weekend, and now my CUPS printing is broken :-(

Looking in the logfiles it appears that it's not finding somehting called
EPS Ghostscript.

What is this, and how do I fix the problem?

Printing is _important_.

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Re: permissions for /tmp ???

2003-02-05 Thread Lowell Gilbert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (P. U. Kruppa) writes:

 Cleaning up my system I accidentally deleted my /tmp directory
 - it had grown to 462M, though I couldn't find any files as
 big as that.
 
 Anyway: I created a new one, rebooted my system and everything
 seems to work all-right.
 
 Please could someone send me the default permissions of /tmp ?
 I wouldn't like to leave a drwxrwxrwx hole in my system if it
 isn't necessary.

See /etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist

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Re: ports changes?

2003-02-05 Thread pippo
At 11:56 AM 2/5/2003 -0800, you wrote:

On Wednesday 05 February 2003 11:39 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 06:35 PM 2/5/2003 +0100, you wrote:
 On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 12:19:40 -0500
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Does anyone know or understand what is going on in the ports
   collection - at this moment, there seems to be a problem with the
   kdegames3 port - it just doesn't seem to be there, thus
   preventing the update of the kde3 group of programs.
 
 Huh?
 
 flynn@christine# cd /usr/ports/games/kdegames3/
 flynn@christine# cat distinfo
 MD5 (KDE/kdegames-3.1.tar.bz2) = cfc3fef5f162dc7ecd9465a11bdf9b1b
 
 When did you cvsup?

 About half an hour before I posted - now, several hours ago. I just
 checked the fbsd site and there are no sources for kdegames-3.0.4
 :(( I've been trying to update kde3 for several days, now, and I had
 a problem with /audio/arts first, and now with kdegames - weird
 And it ain't me, mate, if the stuff isn't on the site, where is it?

ftp://ftp.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.1/src/

Which is the master mirror site for kde in the US.


OK, I understand. Only, problem seems to be that when I cvsup, nothing gets 
downloaded into the /usr/ports/games/kdegames3 directory (all the other 
kde3 stuff was there...) so, I can't use portupgrade to update and may have 
to waste time  energy hacking something that should be simple enough... :((
I still don't understand what is going on...
PJ




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Re: CUPS problems

2003-02-05 Thread pippo
At 03:26 PM 2/5/2003 -0500, you wrote:

I cvsup'd main  ports this weekend, and now my CUPS printing is broken :-(

Looking in the logfiles it appears that it's not finding somehting called
EPS Ghostscript.

What is this, and how do I fix the problem?


Well, I don't know how you had CUPS set up, or what you are running - 
usually ghostscript-gnu-7.05_3 (the current port) should do the trick. I 
would use portupgrade and cvsup/ That seems to be the easiest way. :))
HTH,
PJ


Printing is _important_.

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Re: ports changes?

2003-02-05 Thread Kent Stewart
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 12:33 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 11:56 AM 2/5/2003 -0800, you wrote:
 On Wednesday 05 February 2003 11:39 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   At 06:35 PM 2/5/2003 +0100, you wrote:
   On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 12:19:40 -0500
   
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anyone know or understand what is going on in the ports
 collection - at this moment, there seems to be a problem with
 the kdegames3 port - it just doesn't seem to be there, thus
 preventing the update of the kde3 group of programs.
   
   Huh?
   
   flynn@christine# cd /usr/ports/games/kdegames3/
   flynn@christine# cat distinfo
   MD5 (KDE/kdegames-3.1.tar.bz2) =
cfc3fef5f162dc7ecd9465a11bdf9b1b
   
   When did you cvsup?
  
   About half an hour before I posted - now, several hours ago. I
   just checked the fbsd site and there are no sources for
   kdegames-3.0.4
  
   :(( I've been trying to update kde3 for several days, now, and I
   : had
  
   a problem with /audio/arts first, and now with kdegames -
   weird And it ain't me, mate, if the stuff isn't on the site,
   where is it?
 
 ftp://ftp.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.1/src/
 
 Which is the master mirror site for kde in the US.

 OK, I understand. Only, problem seems to be that when I cvsup,
 nothing gets downloaded into the /usr/ports/games/kdegames3
 directory (all the other kde3 stuff was there...) so, I can't use
 portupgrade to update and may have to waste time  energy hacking
 something that should be simple enough... :(( I still don't
 understand what is going on...
 PJ

All that should be in your kde3game directory is the following
ruby# ll
total 98
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel654 Jan 28 15:19 Makefile
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel 66 Jan 28 15:19 distinfo
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel 41 Nov  2  1997 pkg-comment
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel123 Jul 18  2002 pkg-descr
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  95614 Jan 28 15:19 pkg-plist

If you had done a make fetch from /usr/ports/games/kdegames3 if would 
have put kdegames-3.1.tar.bz2 in your /usr/ports/distfiles/KDE 
directory. If you have a partial for 3.1 in there, things work very 
poorly. 

Now, a portupgrade -uf kde3games should have done the samething as the 
make fetch. Going to freebsd.org, however, was very similar to 
bitching about not finding a new BMW at your local Mercedes dealership.

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Re: ports changes?

2003-02-05 Thread pippo
At 12:47 PM 2/5/2003 -0800, you wrote:

On Wednesday 05 February 2003 12:33 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 11:56 AM 2/5/2003 -0800, you wrote:
 On Wednesday 05 February 2003 11:39 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   At 06:35 PM 2/5/2003 +0100, you wrote:
   On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 12:19:40 -0500
   
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anyone know or understand what is going on in the ports
 collection - at this moment, there seems to be a problem with
 the kdegames3 port - it just doesn't seem to be there, thus
 preventing the update of the kde3 group of programs.
   
   Huh?
   
   flynn@christine# cd /usr/ports/games/kdegames3/
   flynn@christine# cat distinfo
   MD5 (KDE/kdegames-3.1.tar.bz2) =
cfc3fef5f162dc7ecd9465a11bdf9b1b
   
   When did you cvsup?
  
   About half an hour before I posted - now, several hours ago. I
   just checked the fbsd site and there are no sources for
   kdegames-3.0.4
  
   :(( I've been trying to update kde3 for several days, now, and I
   : had
  
   a problem with /audio/arts first, and now with kdegames -
   weird And it ain't me, mate, if the stuff isn't on the site,
   where is it?
 
 ftp://ftp.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.1/src/
 
 Which is the master mirror site for kde in the US.

 OK, I understand. Only, problem seems to be that when I cvsup,
 nothing gets downloaded into the /usr/ports/games/kdegames3
 directory (all the other kde3 stuff was there...) so, I can't use
 portupgrade to update and may have to waste time  energy hacking
 something that should be simple enough... :(( I still don't
 understand what is going on...
 PJ

All that should be in your kde3game directory is the following
ruby# ll
total 98
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel654 Jan 28 15:19 Makefile
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel 66 Jan 28 15:19 distinfo
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel 41 Nov  2  1997 pkg-comment
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel123 Jul 18  2002 pkg-descr
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  95614 Jan 28 15:19 pkg-plist

If you had done a make fetch from /usr/ports/games/kdegames3 if would
have put kdegames-3.1.tar.bz2 in your /usr/ports/distfiles/KDE
directory. If you have a partial for 3.1 in there, things work very
poorly.

Now, a portupgrade -uf kde3games should have done the samething as the
make fetch. Going to freebsd.org, however, was very similar to
bitching about not finding a new BMW at your local Mercedes dealership.


I hardly think I am bitching.
What you don't seem to understand is that there is something wrong with 
either the cvsup site that feeds the ports directories or something else. I 
understand and am perfectly aware of where the files should go and how  
where to find them. But, I am trying to use both portupgrade and cvsup. 
Now, if I empty the ports directories and run cvsup, then those directories 
will be populated with the files as you show above. However, on several 
tries at it, other directories were repopulated, but not the kdegames3. I 
am merely trying to understand what is going on... is it the cvsup? 
Granted, I have not yet tried a different cvsup site... I guess that's the 
next step. :))
I have seen this problem before and have just had to wait until the 
repository has been straightened out.

PJ


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Re: snort installation issues

2003-02-05 Thread Stephen Hilton
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:24:10 -0800 (PST)
Bsd Neophyte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 i'm following the, How to setup and secure Snort, MySQL and Acid on
 FreeBSD 4.6 Release off of the snort.org website. 
 
 in the documentation it says snort should be installed through the
 following: 
 
 - 
 make -DWITH_MYSQL -DWITH_FLEXRESP ; make install 
 - 
 
 later it says to do the following: 
 
 - 
 /usr/local/bin/mysql -p 
 /usr/ports/security/snort/work/snort-1.8.6/control create_mysql snort 
 - 
 
 the problem is this, there is no work/snort-1.8.6/create_mysql snort
 under /usr/ports/security/snort. 
 
 i've also tried locating the file by using find, but it doesn't seem to
 exist.
 
 does anyone know what to do about this?

cd /usr/ports/security/snort
make extract

This will create the work directory for you below the 
/usr/ports/security/snort dir.

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Re: ports changes?

2003-02-05 Thread Kent Stewart
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 01:00 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 12:47 PM 2/5/2003 -0800, you wrote:
 On Wednesday 05 February 2003 12:33 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   At 11:56 AM 2/5/2003 -0800, you wrote:
   On Wednesday 05 February 2003 11:39 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 06:35 PM 2/5/2003 +0100, you wrote:
 On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 12:19:40 -0500
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Does anyone know or understand what is going on in the
   ports collection - at this moment, there seems to be a
   problem with the kdegames3 port - it just doesn't seem to
   be there, thus preventing the update of the kde3 group of
   programs.
 
 Huh?
 
 flynn@christine# cd /usr/ports/games/kdegames3/
 flynn@christine# cat distinfo
 MD5 (KDE/kdegames-3.1.tar.bz2) =
  cfc3fef5f162dc7ecd9465a11bdf9b1b
 
 When did you cvsup?

 About half an hour before I posted - now, several hours ago.
 I just checked the fbsd site and there are no sources for
 kdegames-3.0.4

 :(( I've been trying to update kde3 for several days, now,
 : and I had

 a problem with /audio/arts first, and now with kdegames -
 weird And it ain't me, mate, if the stuff isn't on the
 site, where is it?
   
   ftp://ftp.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.1/src/
   
   Which is the master mirror site for kde in the US.
  
   OK, I understand. Only, problem seems to be that when I cvsup,
   nothing gets downloaded into the /usr/ports/games/kdegames3
   directory (all the other kde3 stuff was there...) so, I can't
   use portupgrade to update and may have to waste time  energy
   hacking something that should be simple enough... :(( I still
   don't understand what is going on...
   PJ
 
 All that should be in your kde3game directory is the following
 ruby# ll
 total 98
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel654 Jan 28 15:19 Makefile
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel 66 Jan 28 15:19 distinfo
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel 41 Nov  2  1997 pkg-comment
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel123 Jul 18  2002 pkg-descr
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  95614 Jan 28 15:19 pkg-plist
 
 If you had done a make fetch from /usr/ports/games/kdegames3 if
  would have put kdegames-3.1.tar.bz2 in your
  /usr/ports/distfiles/KDE directory. If you have a partial for 3.1
  in there, things work very poorly.
 
 Now, a portupgrade -uf kde3games should have done the samething as
  the make fetch. Going to freebsd.org, however, was very similar
  to bitching about not finding a new BMW at your local Mercedes
  dealership.

 I hardly think I am bitching.
 What you don't seem to understand is that there is something wrong
 with either the cvsup site that feeds the ports directories or
 something else. I understand and am perfectly aware of where the
 files should go and how  where to find them. But, I am trying to use
 both portupgrade and cvsup. Now, if I empty the ports directories and
 run cvsup, then those directories will be populated with the files as
 you show above. However, on several tries at it, other directories
 were repopulated, but not the kdegames3. I am merely trying to
 understand what is going on... is it the cvsup? Granted, I have not
 yet tried a different cvsup site... I guess that's the next step. :))

I would tend to agree. I have had sites get out of sync and found that 
changing would fix things.

 I have seen this problem before and have just had to wait until the
 repository has been straightened out.

I don't think I have ever been that patient. You can go to 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/games/kdegames3 and if your 
kdegames port directory doesn't look exactly like that, then change 
your cvsup mirror. It is broken. Just remember there is some latency 
(up to an hour) between when the master cvs site is updated and it is 
updated on your mirror.

Kent


 PJ

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Re: ports changes?

2003-02-05 Thread pippo
At 01:21 PM 2/5/2003 -0800, you wrote:

Boy, talk about making an ass of yourself.
kKSomebody has to shoot me in the head. I just checked my ports-supfile - 
an guess what? Dumbhead, here, had commented out # the audio and the games 
files as I never use the stuff. What I can't figure out is how the stuff 
got there in the first place, unless it was installed as dependecies with 
the kde3 bas stuff.

As usual, the solution is so simple we can't see it in front of us in broad 
daylight.
Thanks for your help
PJ


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Re: Correct installer behaviour?

2003-02-05 Thread mav
On 4 Feb 2003 at 19:40, Neil Darlow wrote:

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 Hi,
 
 I am attempting to install FreeBSD-5.0-RELEASE onto a dual IDE disk system.
 
 I have created a single slice on each drive (ad0s1 and ad2s1) then attempted 
 to create some disklabel partitions on each.
 
 For drive ad0 creating a FS partition gives ad0s1a and a SWAP partition gives 
 ad0s1b - fine so far.
 
 For drive ad2 creating a FS partition gives ad2s1d and a SWAP partition gives 
 ad2s1b - this seems odd.
 
 Why isn't the first partition on ad2 ad2s1a? Is this correct behaviour or is 
 it a bug?

I think you'll find that b is the default location for the swap partition, at least 
the first 
swap partition.


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Re: Buildworld Failing

2003-02-05 Thread Stephen Hilton
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 05:43:50 +0200
Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  What is the output of:

% ls -ld /usr/lib/*termcap*

 ?  I think that buildworld uses stuff from /usr/obj when it can find
 it though.

I wonder about this also ^

_My_ _working_ 4.7-STABLE system reports:
mybox# ls -ld /usr/lib/*termcap*
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  12 Jan 28 08:18 /usr/lib/libtermcap.a 
- libncurses.a
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  13 Jan 28 08:18 /usr/lib/libtermcap.so 
- libncurses.so
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel  14 Dec 10 04:46 /usr/lib/libtermcap_p.a 
- libncurses_p.a

 Another possibility for the failures that you are seeing is that you
 have spammed your /usr/src tree by running 'make' in the wrong place
 under /usr/src.

Would not the 'cd /usr/src  make cleandir  make cleandir' 
correct this, if followed by a cvsup?

  Try updating your sources with CVSup and make sure
 your supfile includes the line:

   *default delete use-rel-suffix

 - Giorgos

I have heard IIRC from JDP that '*default delete' is now 
prefered to using '*default delete use-rel-suffix'

The original posters cvsupfile looks like this:

*default host=cvsup.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_7
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress
src-all

And he did buildworld to 4.7-p2 ok already

In researching this problem I came across this freebsd 
mailing list thread from 2001 regarding docs/24662 relating 
to potentially corrupted src trees from assorted end-user 
miss-steps and other reasons. It also covered some advanced 
cvsup usage, including some info that helped me understand 
the hows and whys of properly adopting your source tree. 

And came upon this little gem cvsupchk

An excerpt from the README is:
cvsupchk is a python script that checks a CVSup maintained 
directory hierarchy against the corresponding CVSup checkouts 
file. It looks for a number of anomalies: missing checked out 
files, deleted files being present, extra RCS files, 'dead' 
directories being present and so on.

To get this tool:

cd /usr/ports/net/cvsup
make extract

cd ./work/cvsup-snap-16.1f/contrib/cvsupchk
more README

And for my PC with a /usr/src directory and a 
cvsupfile with src-all selected, and an existing  
/usr/sup/src-all/checkouts file, I ran this command:

./cvsupchk -d /usr -c /usr/sup/src-all/checkouts

and found some things to look into in my src tree that 
could use some cleaning.

Why with all the questions that pop up regarding mucked 
up src directories is this tool not mentioned more?

Does it have problems, or give incorrect information? 

Is there a good article/how-to someplace that I missed?

http://www.hiltonbsd.com/articles/buildworld.php was my 
attempt last year to share my limited understanding of 
this topic, with plenty of examples :-) and I am thinking 
about giving it an update.

Not having a strong programming background sure makes 
getting a better understanding of some of these topics 
difficult. Better get that Learn C in 24 Hours book 
out again ;-)

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Re: Which snd driver to use with Toshiba Satellite?

2003-02-05 Thread Darren Pilgrim
Laszlo Vagner wrote:

Darren Pilgrim wrote:

I have a Toshiba Satellite 1805-S207 notebook.  According to the 
(limited) information I can find on this machine, I believe the audio 
hardware is integrated into the ALi CyberALADDiN-T M1535 chipset.  The 
only thing I could find was the t4dwave driver, but that freezes the 
machine when kldloaded post-boot, and causes the kernel probe to hang 
if loaded via loader.conf.  Is there a driver for this hardware?


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I have a similiar machine and just added device pcm to my kernel and it 
detects it fine. no need for drivers... it is based on the yamaha 754
 chip.

Which Satellite do you have, and what does the hardware probe as?


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RE: Apache built correctly?

2003-02-05 Thread Mike Loiterman
 
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 Mike Loiterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
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 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 Mike Loiterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Absolutly nothing appears in the httpd-access.log file when I try
 to access the index.html. 
 
 When I try to do http://localhost I get nothing.  Just this:
 unable to connect to remote host.
 
 I've restarted apache many times with the same results.  I
 restarted my machine with the same results.
 
 I can telnet into port 80 but Apache doesn't appear to answer.
 Something tells me that the daemon isn't running correctly or that
 Apache was installed incorrectly, although 'ps -aux | grep httpd'
 shows:
 
 What does doesn't appear to answer mean?  The fact that you can
 telnet in tells you that it isn't a network-layer issue.  Did you
 try a legitimate HTTP request?
 
 Well I telnet to 80 and it just says refused:
 
 [02:22:47 root@little_boy: /etc/mail]# telnet localhost 80 Trying
 127.0.0.1... telnet: connect to address 127.0.0.1: Connection refused
 telnet: Unable to connect to remote host
 
 Ah.  So you *can't* telnet into port 80.  That's different.
 Use sockstat(1) to see if anything is bound to port 80, and look at
 firewall rules to see if something's blocking it before it gets there.

[13:41:19 root@little_boy: /etc/mail]# sockstat | grep 80
www  httpd  30322 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*
www  httpd  30321 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*
www  httpd  30320 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*
www  httpd  30319 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*
www  httpd  30318 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*
root httpd  30309 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*

Hrmm...seems to be bound to thr right ports???  I'm not sure how to check the firewall 
rules, as this machine is already behind a firewall.  Even so, wouldn't the 
http://localhost bypass any firewall stuff?

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Re: Xft-2.1 port problems

2003-02-05 Thread Michael Barrett
That seems to have been the problem.  Thanks a ton :)

On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 01:43:50PM -0500, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 11:59, Michael Barrett wrote:
  I've currently got the XFree86-4.2.0_1,1 port installed.
 
 Make sure you have the latest version of fontconfig installed before
 installing Xft.
 
 Joe
 
  On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 02:54:31AM -0500, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
   On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 02:39, Michael Barrett wrote:
Hi,

So tonight I went to try and upgrade my gkrellm2 port, and found that it 
failed when dealing with a file that was part of my Xft port.  I currently have 
Xft-2.0_1 installed.  I went to do a portupgrade of Xft, and this is the error I keep 
getting:

gcc -O -pipe  -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/X11R6/include 
-I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -fPIC -DPIC 
-c xftdpy.c -o xftdpy.o
xftdpy.c: In function `XftDefaultSubstitute':
xftdpy.c:484: `FC_RGBA_UNKNOWN' undeclared (first use in this function)
xftdpy.c:484: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
xftdpy.c:484: for each function it appears in.)
gmake: *** [xftdpy.o] Error 1
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/Xft.
** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa 
/tmp/portupgrade93740.0 make
** Fix the problem and try again.
** The following packages were not installed or upgraded (*:skipped / 
!:failed)
! x11-fonts/Xft (Xft-2.0_1) (compiler error)


=

Anyone have any idea what might be causing this?  I've tried going into 
/usr/ports/x11-fonts/Xft and doing a make deinstall, but my ports no longer point at 
Xft-2.0_1, they point to 2.1 and so it doesn't seem to think Xft is installed (even 
though I see it installed in /var/db/pkg).  Anyways, any help I can get on this would 
be much appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
   
   What version of XFree86 do you have installed?
   
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Re: Apache built correctly?

2003-02-05 Thread Matthew Emmerton
 On Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:31 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Mike Loiterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
  On Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:11 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Mike Loiterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Absolutly nothing appears in the httpd-access.log file when I try
  to access the index.html.
 
  When I try to do http://localhost I get nothing.  Just this:
  unable to connect to remote host.
 
  I've restarted apache many times with the same results.  I
  restarted my machine with the same results.
 
  I can telnet into port 80 but Apache doesn't appear to answer.
  Something tells me that the daemon isn't running correctly or that
  Apache was installed incorrectly, although 'ps -aux | grep httpd'
  shows:
 
  What does doesn't appear to answer mean?  The fact that you can
  telnet in tells you that it isn't a network-layer issue.  Did you
  try a legitimate HTTP request?
 
  Well I telnet to 80 and it just says refused:
 
  [02:22:47 root@little_boy: /etc/mail]# telnet localhost 80 Trying
  127.0.0.1... telnet: connect to address 127.0.0.1: Connection refused
  telnet: Unable to connect to remote host
 
  Ah.  So you *can't* telnet into port 80.  That's different.
  Use sockstat(1) to see if anything is bound to port 80, and look at
  firewall rules to see if something's blocking it before it gets there.

 [13:41:19 root@little_boy: /etc/mail]# sockstat | grep 80
 www  httpd  30322 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*
 www  httpd  30321 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*
 www  httpd  30320 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*
 www  httpd  30319 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*
 www  httpd  30318 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*
 root httpd  30309 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*

 Hrmm...seems to be bound to thr right ports???  I'm not sure how to check
the firewall rules, as this machine is already behind a firewall.  Even so,
wouldn't the http://localhost bypass any firewall stuff?

It's bound to the right ports, but it's only listening on the IPv6
address -- not the IPv4 address.  I'm not sure what the fix for this is, but
this has been discussed on the list recently -- check the archives.

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Re: handling non-printable characters in file names

2003-02-05 Thread Walter
Nathan Kinkade wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 01:28:57PM -0500, Walter wrote:
   Leaving out the details, I need to know how to
navigate directories and remove files that use non-
printable characters in their names. du and ls show
me they're there, but I can't figure out how to make
cd work, or rm either.  Fwiw, the non-printable char
is \225.  Lynx was not able to see the directory
either, but maybe because it began with a .  -
I don't know.

 Generally, there are several things to try with difficult file names:

 1) Try quoting the spuriously named files (try double and single)
 2) Add a ./ in front of the filename
 3) Try letting the shell expand the filename for you by typing the first
 few characters and then pressing the Tab key.
 4) Trying escaping any unruly characters with a ``\

Thanks, Nathan.

I had tried 1 and 4 but they didn't work (at least
the way I did them).  I don't have a shell that
expands file names, but I'll try 2 if it happens
again. (I've zapped it all by starting at the
parent directory.)

There's probably someone who can explain why non-
printable characters are useful in file names, but
I'd really rather disallow them altogether - if
there's a build option or control flag to set.
Anyone?

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RE: Apache built correctly?

2003-02-05 Thread Mike Loiterman
 
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wrote:

 On Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:31 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Mike Loiterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
 On Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:11 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Mike Loiterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Absolutly nothing appears in the httpd-access.log file when I
 try to access the index.html. 
 
 When I try to do http://localhost I get nothing.  Just this:
 unable to connect to remote host.
 
 I've restarted apache many times with the same results.  I
 restarted my machine with the same results.
 
 I can telnet into port 80 but Apache doesn't appear to answer.
 Something tells me that the daemon isn't running correctly or
 that Apache was installed incorrectly, although 'ps -aux | grep
 httpd' shows:
 
 What does doesn't appear to answer mean?  The fact that you can
 telnet in tells you that it isn't a network-layer issue.  Did you
 try a legitimate HTTP request?
 
 Well I telnet to 80 and it just says refused:
 
 [02:22:47 root@little_boy: /etc/mail]# telnet localhost 80 Trying
 127.0.0.1... telnet: connect to address 127.0.0.1: Connection
 refused telnet: Unable to connect to remote host
 
 Ah.  So you *can't* telnet into port 80.  That's different.
 Use sockstat(1) to see if anything is bound to port 80, and look at
 firewall rules to see if something's blocking it before it gets
 there. 
 
 [13:41:19 root@little_boy: /etc/mail]# sockstat | grep 80
 www  httpd  30322 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*
 www  httpd  30321 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*
 www  httpd  30320 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*
 www  httpd  30319 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*
 www  httpd  30318 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*
 root httpd  30309 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*
 
 Hrmm...seems to be bound to thr right ports???  I'm not sure how to
 check 
 the firewall rules, as this machine is already behind a firewall. 
 Even so, wouldn't the http://localhost bypass any firewall stuff?
 
 It's bound to the right ports, but it's only listening on the IPv6
 address -- not the IPv4 address.  I'm not sure what the fix for this
 is, but this has been discussed on the list recently -- check the
 archives. 

Matt:
You were 100% on the mark.

For anyone that is interested -- just add the following lines in your httpd.conf file:

Listen 0.0.0.0:80
Listen [::]:80

And it works perfectly.  This is a known problem with Apache2 although it isn't well 
documented.  Hopefully this will help someone else.

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RE: BBS (MBSE on FreeBSD)

2003-02-05 Thread Michael

Just for your information and hopes this will be useful to people, i seen
the recent talks about BBS on FreeBSD and got curious. i went and
installed mbse and its actually very neat. I only have a few years in
computers so i wasnt around in the real bbs days so this is a rather cool
learn for me. The purpose of this email is intended for the man who was
questioning about having a BBS on FreeBSD. (i forget your name and email,
My website archives freebsd-questions but the mail file deletes every
itself every 24 hours.)  I installed mbse out of the box with practically
no problems. It also appears to be rather nifty. You can telnet to
unixhideout.com and login as bbs if you want to check it out. Im just
beginning with this bbs stuff but im not an idiot so a message to the
kiddies on this list with nothing better to do. I'll catch you and whoop
you. :)

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Can't remember how to read binary log files

2003-02-05 Thread Louis LeBlanc
Sorry for the OT question, but how does one view the contents of the
binary logfiles?  I'm referring specifically to /var/log/sendmail.st
and /var/log/wtmp.  I've looked in the syslog manpages and can't seem
to find it.

Thanks
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Re: PCMCIA NIC for use w/ FreeBSD?

2003-02-05 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Wednesday,  5 February 2003 at  0:44:36 -0500, Michael Graffam wrote:

 Can anyone suggest an inexpensive 16-bit PC card NIC (non-Cardbus) for use
 with FreeBSD, and where I might find one?

 I _REALLY_ want to get FreeBSD installed on my laptop, and I'm
 willing to bite the bullet and just buy a new NIC.

Just about any 16 bit NIC will work.

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Good way of upgrading from FreeBSD 4.5?

2003-02-05 Thread Johannes Angeldorff
Dear FreeBSD:ers,

I am happy to use FreeBSD for web, mail and applications serving. But
when I come to the question about how to upgrade to a newer FreeBSD
version, I really could need your expertise!

We have two FreeBSD 4.5 boxes. Both boxes have been installed with
FreeBSD 4.5 from CD, and then tweaked with reconfigured kernels and a
few applications installed, mainly qmail (replacing sendmail),
mod-php, mysql, pico and a few more. Both boxes have around 25 users
each. Both boxes have tweaked settings in /etc/rc.conf and some other
/etc/-files.

My question is, if anyone can give a hint on how to upgrade safely
from FreeBSD 4.5 to FreeBSD 5.0...?

If we download FreeBSD 5.0 and install it on our FreeBSD 4.5 boxes,
what will we have to do? Is there risk that all settings, contents
and installed applications will be erased?

Very thankful for all help on this matter...!
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Johannes Angeldorff

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curious if anyone noticed the perl-5.8.0_04 seems a bit whacky ?

2003-02-05 Thread Sean O'Neill
I just portupgraded from perl-5.8.0_01 to perl-5.8.0_04 - or more 
appropriately I tried.

Anyone noticed that the perl-5.8.0_04 port installs stuff in 
/usr/local/scripts, e.g. h2ph and others, but a pkginfo -L shows these same 
files are being installed in /usr/local/bin.

A problem with this is during the installation process it fails right 
towards the end because h2ph ends up in /usr/local/scripts/h2ph but the 
installation process is hard coded expecting it in /usr/local/bin/h2ph.  I 
manually copied h2ph to /usr/local/bin and redid a make install and the 
port installed.  But now the pkgdb is basically wrong for lots of the files.

Anyone else seen this ?


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Re: handling non-printable characters in file names

2003-02-05 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Leaving out the details, I need to know how to
 navigate directories and remove files that use non-
 printable characters in their names. du and ls show
 me they're there, but I can't figure out how to make
 cd work, or rm either.  Fwiw, the non-printable char
 is \225.  Lynx was not able to see the directory
 either, but maybe because it began with a .  -
 I don't know.

The manual for rm(1) covers this.

 Also, is there a way to configure FBSD from accepting
 non-printable characters in file names?

No.

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Good way of upgrading from FreeBSD 4.5?

2003-02-05 Thread Johannes Angeldorff
Dear FreeBSD:ers,

I am happy to use FreeBSD for web, mail and applications serving. But
when I come to the question about how to upgrade to a newer FreeBSD
version, I really could need your expertise!

We have two FreeBSD 4.5 boxes. Both boxes have been installed with
FreeBSD 4.5 from CD, and then tweaked with reconfigured kernels and a
few applications installed, mainly qmail (replacing sendmail),
mod-php, mysql, pico and a few more. Both boxes have around 25 users
each. Both boxes have tweaked settings in /etc/rc.conf and some other
/etc/-files.

My question is, if anyone can give a hint on how to upgrade safely
from FreeBSD 4.5 to FreeBSD 5.0...?

If we download FreeBSD 5.0 and install it on our FreeBSD 4.5 boxes,
what will we have to do? Is there risk that all settings, contents
and installed applications will be erased?

Very thankful for all help on this matter...!
--
Regards,
Smartnet Sverige AB

Johannes Angeldorff

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Re: handling non-printable characters in file names

2003-02-05 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
 There's probably someone who can explain why non-
 printable characters are useful in file names, but
 I'd really rather disallow them altogether - if
 there's a build option or control flag to set.
 Anyone?

BSD is character-set neutral. Well, it tries. The only two characters
that are magic in file names are 0x2f and 0x00, because they both
terminate the file name. Other than that, you are free to use whatever
character encoding you want to. That's why characters that may be
unprintable in some encodings are allowed in file names.  What shows
up in the locale en_US.ISO8859-1 as Resumé will show up with an
unprintable last character if you haven't set the LANG environment
variable.

The only way to change this behavior is to change the kernel source to
support it.  Expect resistance from every developer in a country that
doesn't use the English alphabet if you try and get that change put
into the tree.

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USB or Firewire IDE drives

2003-02-05 Thread lwh
I was wondering if anyone has tried IDE drives connected via USB2.0
or Firewire under 4.x or 5.x. Any information, even just a no this
one doesn't work would be greatly appreciated.

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RE: USB or Firewire IDE drives

2003-02-05 Thread Harald Schmalzbauer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I was wondering if anyone has tried IDE drives connected via USB2.0
 or Firewire under 4.x or 5.x. Any information, even just a no this

AFAIK USB2.0 isn't supported. But I'm very satisfied wit a noname
USB2/Firewire case for a 2.5 disk. It's identified as REXON Firewire
HD 0032 attached to an Adaptec firewire controller. Works fine on FW
*and* USB1.

-Harry

 one doesn't work would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: handling non-printable characters in file names

2003-02-05 Thread Bill Moran
Mike Meyer wrote:

In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:


There's probably someone who can explain why non-
printable characters are useful in file names, but
I'd really rather disallow them altogether - if
there's a build option or control flag to set.
Anyone?


BSD is character-set neutral. Well, it tries. The only two characters
that are magic in file names are 0x2f and 0x00, because they both
terminate the file name. Other than that, you are free to use whatever
character encoding you want to. That's why characters that may be
unprintable in some encodings are allowed in file names.  What shows
up in the locale en_US.ISO8859-1 as Resumé will show up with an
unprintable last character if you haven't set the LANG environment
variable.

The only way to change this behavior is to change the kernel source to
support it.  Expect resistance from every developer in a country that
doesn't use the English alphabet if you try and get that change put
into the tree.


What about a feature that allows an administrator to list characters
that are disallowed in filenames and directory names?

You don't think that would be useful?  Do you really think admins would
mind?  I think it would be very helpful - I'd disallow whitespace right
off the bat, as it causes more problems than I can keep track of!

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Re: building a VPN with FreeBSD 4.7p3

2003-02-05 Thread Bill Moran
Marcel Stangenberger wrote:

My intention is to have a webserver in a colocation at my ISP but have the
databaseserver and imap server at another location. Since i use BasiliX
for webmail access i would like to have a secure connection between these
3 systems.


I don't understand how vtun isn't what you're looking for?  I've used it for
setups very similar to what you're describing.

Perhaps a look at the vtun home page, which gives a better description
of what all vtun can be used for.


I've read the website and i figured that vtun is for binding two networks
together. The problems that i have is that:

1. My FreeBSD internal system is not doing routing/nat, it has only one
   interface with an RFC1918 IP on it. The router is an Allied Data 810.
2. My FreeBSD webserver doesn't have an inside interface, only an outside.


Neither of these points prevents you from using vtun.  Nor does either of
them make it any more difficult to use, really.  Actually, they're both
good reasons to use vtun.

Just set up your webserver as the vtun 'server' and the MySQL server as the
vtun 'client'.  Make sure to use TCP (not UDP) and things will work just
fine.


i'll try to make an ascii drawing of the situation :

---
| mysql server|
---   |
192.168.0.2  |switch|
  |   |
  |   |
--|   | 192.168.0.1
| imap server|-   |router|
--| 100.100.100.100
192.168.0.4   |
   internet
---   |
|webserver|
---
200.200.200.200


I Hope this makes it a bit clearer, or you be able to tell me where i'm
wrong in this.


I'm not sure exactly _where_ you're wrong, but you are.  It can be done,
quite easily in fact.

What about your setup makes you believe that vtun can't create the connection
you want?

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