The FreeBSD Diary: 2004-02-29 - 2004-03-20

2004-03-21 Thread Dan Langille
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Re: Do I really need to rebuilding *everything*

2004-03-21 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Mar 21), Mark said:
 Pardon my daftness, but how is a 'file' against, say, httpd, like this,
 
 file /usr/local/sbin/httpd
 /usr/local/sbin/httpd: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), 
 dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped
 
 going to tell me whether httpd was dynamically linked against
 OpenSSL, or statically? It just tells me httpd uses shared libraries.
 Or does it mean it ONLY uses shared libraries?

You can also use the ldd command to list the specific shlibs linked
by a program, but you can usually assume that if it's dynamically
linked, it has dynamically linked all its libraries too. 
Theoretically, a program could have linked directly to
/usr/lib/libssl.a, but most of the time they just use -lssl, which will
prefer shared libraries over static.

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Re: Latency problem with traffic shaping (ipfw/dummynet)

2004-03-21 Thread Luigi Rizzo
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 12:56:08PM -1000, Vincent Poy wrote:
...
  the above configuration means that if queue 1 is getting a bandwidth
  X, then queue 2 will get 0.99X, queue 3 will get 0.98X, queue
  4 will get 0.97X. Hardly matching any reasonable definition of high-mid-low
  priority!
 
   Hmm, I think I did it that way because 100 is the largest number
 and I didn't decide on how many queues I may add later so the numbers will
 change but does the weight number really mean 99%, 98%, 97% priority?  So
 should it really be 66, 33, and 1?

no, the weights mean exactly what i wrote above, and they
are weights not priorities. As to the values to use,
that's entirely up to you.

cheers
luigi
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configure CUPS without web interface problem

2004-03-21 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Hello. I just installed cups on my old P160MMX desktop computer, the 
printer is Canon S100 on usb0. Now I need to configure the box properly to 
print something.

I found this printer's PPD file on LinuxPrinting.org. I followed the 
instructions on both LinuxPrintng.org and CUPS software administrator, so 
far everything went smooth. Only that both doc suggest me go to 
http://localhost:631/admin, but I got connection refused using lynx(1). (I 
don't know if I need to run apache or configure inetd for this.)

I managed to go to section 4-3-6 of the manual through command-line, all 
things went smooth:
http://www.cups.org/sam.html#4_3_6

According to the manual, it seems so far the printer is properly 
configured, ready to print. Here is my status information:

dino# lpstat -t
scheduler is running
system default destination: S100
device for S100: usb:/dev/ulpt0
S100 accepting requests since Jan 01 00:00
printer S100 is idle.  enabled since Jan 01 00:00
dino# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cups.sh status
cups: scheduler is running.
dino# uname -a
FreeBSD dino.realss 5.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.2-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 29 04:29:22 
CST 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/DINO  i386

So i send a text file to the print:

dino# lpr -PS100 .cshrc
lpr: Unable to connect to /var/run/printer: No such file or directory
lpr: Check to see if the master 'lpd' process is running.
jobs queued, but cannot start daemon.
It seems I still need to run smothing called lpd? Why? The manual didn't 
ask me to do so.

Please help. Thank you.

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Re: Best *nix OS for a laptop?

2004-03-21 Thread Volker Kindermann
Hello Eric,


 I've been using freebsd 4.x on a laptop for 6 months or so now, and
 I'm not entirely happy with it.  Mostly, it lacks multimedia support
 and power management.  I don't want to start some flame war here, but
 here goes.
 
 Could some of you please send me an email telling me what OS you
 utilize on your laptop, and why?  I'm not looking for anyone bashing
 any other OS, just why you use what you do.

I'm using FreeBSD 5.2.1 on my Thinkpad X21. The only thing I've trouble
with is acpi. So I'm using APM which works sufficiently for me
(suspending when closing the display, etc. I have no problems with
sound, all hardware components are recognised (even the WinModem is
supported by the lt.. port but I don't bother as I don't need it).

Mostly I do allday-work with the laptop, email, browsing the internet,
openoffice, connecting to citrix, administering remote machines,
networking tasks, etc.

There's nothing I miss with FreeBSD but that's only my point. Other
users may have other needs.

 -volker
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Re: configure CUPS without web interface problem

2004-03-21 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Zhang Weiwu wrote:

Only that both doc suggest me go to http://localhost:631/admin, but I got 
connection refused using lynx(1). (I don't know if I need to run apache or 
configure inetd for this.)

Sorry I wasn't clear. The actual error message from lynx is:

Looking up localhost:631
localhost:631
Making HTTP connection to localhost:631
socket failed: family 28 addr ::1 port 631.
Sending HTTP request.
Alert!: Unexpected network write error; connection aborted.
Can't Access `http://localhost:631/admin'
Alert!: Unable to access document.
lynx: Can't access startfile

I took a glance on /usr/local/etc/cups/cupsd.conf it is set to listen on 
port 631.

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Re: configure CUPS without web interface problem

2004-03-21 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Zhang Weiwu wrote:

So i send a text file to the print:

dino# lpr -PS100 .cshrc
lpr: Unable to connect to /var/run/printer: No such file or directory
lpr: Check to see if the master 'lpd' process is running.
jobs queued, but cannot start daemon.
It seems I still need to run smothing called lpd? Why? The manual didn't 
ask me to do so.

I luckily found this article from freebsdbsddiary
http://www.freebsddiary.org/cups.php
Nice article. I realized I should call /usr/local/bin/lpr rather than 
/usr/bin/lpr. Now the printer is working.

And it seems I cannot go to 631 port because of permission denied. I 
think I can fix it soon.

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Re: Dell 2650 config for FreeBSD 4.9

2004-03-21 Thread Olaf Hoyer
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Dave wrote:

 We are in the position to have to replace an intel ISP1100 which has
 been running as our primary server for some time. As a potential
 replacement we are looking at a Dell 2650 dual processor raid5 server,
 specs below.   Up until now, the ISP1100 with a P3 800 and 1GB of PC100
 RAM has been handling the load like a fine workhorse, but anything
 purhcased now is well beyond those specs.  Does anyone have any first
 hand experiences, caveats, warnings, or commendations for this server if
 it is to use FreeBSD 4.9 as a dns/radius/website with extensive
 PostgreSQL database usage.

Well, have had some 2650 under my fingertips for deployment, but due to
specs from the projects, no one of them actually runs BSD in production.
Some short tests revolved no problems with a 4.9, RAID working fine, but
not tested on really high loads.

The only problem I ran into ist the mechanical mounting of that box in a
standard Rack.
Dell (at least in Europe) uses 4-post Racks, with square holes.
The rails only have some length adjustment of less then 2 inch, so when
the distance of the front and rear posts is too far apart, or too close
together, then it won't fit.

The VersaRails are used for mounting in Racks with round holes, and have
similar limitations. On their Website Dell have some diagram with exact
measurements for VersaRails, check this out before ordering.

To make the whole stuff more bizarre, I asked Dell what the
front/rear-distance of their own (mostly OEM-relabelled Racks like
Rittal with fixed posts) is, no answer yet. Also some rails from a 2550
fitted in one rack, but the rails of a 1750 (the new 1Ubox) were 2 mm
short :-((

Another try would be the new Intel or relabelled Sun boxes, like the
V65x from Sun, also verry nice hardware inside...


Well, apart from mounting (check your racks!) I see no disadvantage...

HTH
Olaf


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making the partition larger

2004-03-21 Thread CBuH.
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Hello all.

Question is in enlarging the native FreeBSD partition.

I have it  of size X. And have 4 partitions marked, plus free unmarked 10Gb on 
that /dev/ad0. Want to make FreeBSD's partition bigger on those 10Gbs.

Is it real?
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Networking problems behind a router's firewall

2004-03-21 Thread Claudio M. Camacho

   Hello all, I'm trying to use FreeBSD 5.2.1 in my computer behind a 
domestic ADSL modem-router. At home, we have 2 computers, 1 is a server 
and the router uses NAT with some port redirections; and the 2nd one is 
my workstation, where I use NetBSD, Linux and FreeBSD 5.2.1.

   The problem is the next (and it is very very weird):

a) When I installed FreeBSD 5.2.1; i also installed cvsup-without-gui
(latest version) and I tried to update my src and my ports, but the
program was stopped at these lines:

Establesing multiplexed-mode
Runnig...

That's all, I couldn't download any delta.

b) If I try to use traditional CVS, I can use cvs checkout to download 
the entire source tree, or even ports tree. But, once I have got all the
tree, if I go into the tree (both src and ports) and I try to cvs update,
the program is stopped at the beginning and it doesn't download anything.

c) Even all, I played with cvsup -P port (openning that port in my 
firewall), -P - (for passive connections as CVS uses), -P a, and -P m.
But none above worked, so I'm frustrated.

The very very weird thing is that I said, I yes can download trough
'cvs co src'; but once I've got all the src tree, if I get into and I
try: 'cvs update'; the cvs establishes the both passive connections with 
the server but nothing is downloaded; and I get a Timed Out Connection
in about 10 minutes.

   I can use deltas because I use normal FTP connections, but I prefer 
pretty much the cvsup due to confortability and ease.

   These problems didn't happen with FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE nor 4.8-RELEASE, 
but yes with 5.X branches. I use FreeBSD since 2 years ago and I'm sure 
there's no errors in supfiles even I used CVS and it is not working.

   Can anyone help me please?

P.S.- I was reading a lot of mails about problems with cvsup behind
firewall, but all people solved them openning any port in firewall and
then using -P port with cvsup. But it doesn't works for me, I open the
port but the server doesn't connect back to me (using above port).
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Re: Latency problem with traffic shaping (ipfw/dummynet)

2004-03-21 Thread Vincent Poy
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, Luigi Rizzo wrote:

 On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 12:56:08PM -1000, Vincent Poy wrote:
 ...
   the above configuration means that if queue 1 is getting a bandwidth
   X, then queue 2 will get 0.99X, queue 3 will get 0.98X, queue
   4 will get 0.97X. Hardly matching any reasonable definition of high-mid-low
   priority!
 
  Hmm, I think I did it that way because 100 is the largest number
  and I didn't decide on how many queues I may add later so the numbers will
  change but does the weight number really mean 99%, 98%, 97% priority?  So
  should it really be 66, 33, and 1?

 no, the weights mean exactly what i wrote above, and they
 are weights not priorities. As to the values to use,
 that's entirely up to you.

Just as I thought.  I rebooted and latencies have gone down.  It
seems that latency when the pipes are filled are always 50-100ms slower on
boxes behind the FreeBSD box.  One question though, with ipfw pipe show or
ipfw queue show, is it supposed to show all traffic that matches the queue
rule or just only one?


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fetch, modification time and -F

2004-03-21 Thread Ben Paley
Hello,

I'm on a free dial-up (crap but cheap, as the Levellers used to say) and the 
connection drops quite often. As a result I often get left with bits of files 
half downloaded. Abou half the time I can pick them up using -rR without any 
problems, and the rest of the time I get a local modification time does not 
match remote blah blah error, so I have to use -F to force it.

That's not too bad if I'm actually at the machine, but as soon as I try to 
automate something it's a total wind-up: for instance, trying to do 
portupgrade -RF kde.

So my question is how can I stop this happening? Should I set it somewhere 
(where?) so that fetch automatically assumes -F when run from make or 
portinstall or whatever? And would that be safe? OR, should I reset my system 
clock which I think is pretty accurate at the moment? OR, do I just have to 
put up with it till I can get a proper connection?

Thanks for your help,

Cheers,
Ben

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Re: special characters, ie spanish accents

2004-03-21 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Saturday, March 20, 2004 7:39:14 PM Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

|Message: 38
|Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 16:37:50 -0800
|From: Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: Re: special characters, ie spanish accents
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Cc: chip [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Content-Type: text/plain;  charset=iso-8859-1
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|On Saturday 20 March 2004 03:46 pm, chip wrote:
| How do I get the special characters to work, which work in MS Windoze
| using the conbination of right-alt+4digit code? I need to be able to
| use certain accents and characters found in spanish writing. I am
| using FBSD-5.1 with XFCE window manager.
| Thanks,
| Chip
|
|
|I use kde-3.2.1, which allows you to set the 
|regional and accessability  keyboard layouts. I use the es Spanish 
|option. You don't have to do the terrible alt+keypad sequence.. There 
|are a lot of people that have used xdb to do the same thing. Do an 
|archive search.
|
|BTW, you can do the same thing with W2K or XP. You choose the keyboard 
|layout and you hold the right altshift down to switch. If you do a 
|web search on keyboard layouts and go to the Microsoft site, you can 
|grab images of the keyboard.
|
|Kent
|
|--- 
|Kent Stewart
|Richland, WA
|
|http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html


** Reply Separator **
Sunday, March 21, 2004 6:43:35 AM


I have no intentions of starting an argument, however I do seriously
disagree with your assessment that using the ALT+NUM-KEYBOARD
sequence is terrible. I find it to be a very ingenious and quick way to
insert characters without going through he hassle of changing keyboard
assignments, etc. This becomes even more important when there is the
possibility that others may be using the same computer and are not
aware that changes have been made to the system.

Well that is my 2¢ {alt155} worth.

Gerard Seibert
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freeBSD server

2004-03-21 Thread Martijn
Hello,

I am planning on running a BSD server with DNS and an apache server, maybe an 
dhcp server to. (No X). What would be the minimum requirements for this?

Martijn
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Re: freeBSD server

2004-03-21 Thread Remko Lodder
Martijn wrote:
Hello,

I am planning on running a BSD server with DNS and an apache server, maybe an 
dhcp server to. (No X). What would be the minimum requirements for this?

Martijn
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Hi,

What do you think the load would be on the host? It can work on a PII 
233Mhz 64mb , or maybe less when not used often, but when it has a real 
load each day perhaps you want more cpu and memory power. Also, are you 
going to serve plain html files? or also dynamic content...



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Re: 4.9 installation woes (on thinkpad 560X)

2004-03-21 Thread David Gerard
On 03/17/04 00:09, David Gerard wrote:

I was advised by a few people (including the laptop's previous owner) that
FreeBSD 5.x would be quite difficult to get working with sound, and that
it would be a better idea to try with 4.9.
I have just spent a few hours carefully reinstalling the laptop with 
FreeBSD 4.9. Restart for its first boot ... and it won't. It sits there at
F1  DOS
F2  FreeBSD
Default: F2 _
and seems to consider the keyboard beneath its notice. Odd, since the 
caps lock light goes on and off as expected. But nothing will get it off 
this screen.
The DOS partition is a 20 meg partition for IBM system tools, as yet not 
installed. It's also before the FreeBSD partition on the disk, if that's
relevant.


Wiped and tried again. First with the whole disk as a FreeBSD partition, to
see if 4.9 would go on at all (it did). Then with FreeBSD as the *first*
partition, and a DOS partition taking the other half of the disk (my wife
has decided the laptop will be more usable dual-booting into Windows).
Now it's working fine :-)
Still haven't got sound going, but will let the list know when I do!

- d.
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Re: making the partition larger

2004-03-21 Thread Lewis Thompson
On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 12:52:47PM +0300, CBuH. wrote:
 I have it  of size X. And have 4 partitions marked, plus free unmarked
 10Gb on that /dev/ad0. Want to make FreeBSD's partition bigger on
 those 10Gbs.

It depends on where the free space is.  If you mean growing the FreeBSD
slice (which is BSD language for a DOS partition) then I don't think you
can.

  However, if it is unallocated space in the slice take a look at the
growfs man page.  You'll probably need to use bsdlabel/disklabel to edit
your slice partition table.

  Searching for bsdlabel and growfs will probably help too.

-lewiz.

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About distributing FreeBSD CD DVD

2004-03-21 Thread Fung
If I want to distribute FreeBSD CD/DVD in China, 
like FreeBSD Mall  BSD Mall.

1. Can I design my own CD cover, BOX.

2. How can my company name maintained in the handbook  Appendix A.1 CDROM and DVD 
Publishers

3. Is there any restriction, limitation on selling FreeBSD CD/DVD

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Keyboard won't work.

2004-03-21 Thread David L. Murray


 When trying to install BreeBSD 5.2, I can't get past 
the main Sysinstall screen.  The system won't respond to keyboard
commands.  I'm trying to install from CD purchased from BSD Mall.  I use 
hard drive trays on my computer and am writing this
my eComstation drive. 
  I've been able to glean from the messages that fly 
by, this concerning the keyboard.
   
  It is on IRQ1   
  keyboard attach   attach returned 6 
  atkbd0 attachreturned 6

   It is an old IBM PS2 keyboard
Motherboard  EPOX 8K5A2+
Chipset   VIA KT333  AGPset (KT333 + 
VT8235)
Video card ATI Radeon 9000
Hard Drive IBM DTTA-371010 E182115 HG   
10.1 GB
CD-RW  Plextor PX-W4824TA
Processor AMD Athlon  XP 2400+
   

  I went to the manual web pages and looked up the 
returned 6 code. It said the device was not configured, essentially, it
said input or output on a special file referred to a  device that did 
not exist or made or made a request beyond the limits of the device.
I found nothing in the Handbook referring to this.Any 
suggestions.There isn't much I can do if the the system
doesn't respond to the keyboard.As you can see the keyboard works 
fine.  It also works fine with my Linux drive.   Thank you.
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what's the difference of -R and -r?

2004-03-21 Thread Zhang Weiwu
From cp(1):
Historic versions of the cp utility had a -r option.  This 
implementation
supports that option, however, its use is strongly discouraged, as it
does not correctly copy special files, symbolic links or fifo's.

So I keep using -R rather than -r in cp. But I found other commands like 
scp(1), ncftp(1), does not support -R; they use -r.

Does that mean other tools like scp, ncftp, do not copy special files, 
follow symbolic links rather than re-create them, do not deal with fifo's 
correctly? I think it is reasonable, because creating symbolic links cross 
different hosts is useless, so it is with special files. About fifo files, 
I don;t know what that is:)

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no support!

2004-03-21 Thread GP
On the box that you sell your FreeBSD software it says: It's easy to turn
any pc into an internet, networking powerhouse!  ... any pc ... and still
I cannot get it going!?  That is because I just found out that the 3 CD-Roms
and 2 DVDs I got none is compatible or supported by you. 
I got Linux going on it but I run into dependencies and that is why I
thought you might be the right choice.
What should I do?

Thanks,

George
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Re: no support!

2004-03-21 Thread Remko Lodder
GP wrote:

On the box that you sell your FreeBSD software it says: It's easy to turn
any pc into an internet, networking powerhouse!  ... any pc ... and still
I cannot get it going!?  That is because I just found out that the 3 CD-Roms
and 2 DVDs I got none is compatible or supported by you. 
I got Linux going on it but I run into dependencies and that is why I
thought you might be the right choice.
What should I do?

Thanks,

George
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Hi George,

Can you describe your problem in more detail,
since there can be many dependencies , for example, in the ports you 
have dependencies. But also when building your own kernel you have 
dependencies.

So, could you please be more specific so that we can try and help you?

Thanks,

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irq 128 assignment on Mitac 6120 laptop!!

2004-03-21 Thread Raffaele
Hi,
I have a problem for assignment IRQ for USB controller (Intel PIIX4) in my 
Mitac Notebook. The kernel (FreeBSD 4.8/4.9) assign IRQ 128 at the boot and 
he don' t work!  My BIOS don't have options for enable/disable Pnp OS = 
True/False (I think that this is the problem! ), and Mitac don't relase 
any bios upgrade. Under WinXP and whit Linux kernel 2.4 the controller work 
ok.In kernel LINT i don't find any options for this case... Can i solve 
this problem?
Thank's and sorry for my bad English.
cheer's
Raffaele 

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Re: Best *nix OS for a laptop?

2004-03-21 Thread John Mills
Eric, Freebies -

I ended up with Linux for some specific reasons. YMMV.

On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 17:42, Eric F Crist wrote:

 Could some of you please send me an email telling me what OS you utilize on 
 your laptop, and why?  I'm not looking for anyone bashing any other OS, just 
 why you use what you do.

I am working on a Linux development project, have very limited funds, and 
spend many weekends out of town. I was given an elderly Toshiba (430CDT) 
that was a casualty of the class-action suit a few years ago, about their 
handling of CPU and/or BIOS problems. I wanted a setup that would parallel 
the code development environment of my RH-7.3/X11 Linux setup.

I expanded the RAM to 49 MBy but was still unable to run any installer I
could find for a RedHat setup. ('Slinky' bit me viciously.)

I was able to run the Slackware-9.1 Linux console installer without
problems, and by being very careful I even fitted a few frills into the
system's 1.2 GBy HDD. It generally works (sllooowwwlly), though I
sometimes crash my X session when some app ties up the resources (i.e.,
there seems to be a minimum hardware base for stability and I'm not
_quite_ there). Otherwise it meets my requirements perfectly. I'm typing
this now by SSH login to my home system over a [miserable] dial-up
account, and at home I put it on my LAN and it works fine. X11 takes a
long time to start, but is responsive once it's going. I use WindowMaker
because KDE and GNOME are pretty much out of the question with so little
RAM: they swap all the time and KDE takes _many_ seconds to even find a
keystroke. WM is fine. I didn't try other lightweight window managers
('fvwm', 'fluxbox', ...), but any of them would probably have worked out.

I installed from a boot floppy and CDs of the packages. I expect to
install future Linux systems from Slackware after about 6 years of RedHat
(though my early setups were Slackware). Naturally I'm heavily influenced
by my anecdotal experience.

I don't have sound working, and the only power management is screen 
blanking, c/o XFree86.

I am sure I could have installed a good freeBSD configuration; I recently 
installed FBSD by ftp in a junker desktop that didn't even have a CD 
drive. As soon as the Linux project works I plan to port it to FBSD due 
to its fine reputation as a server environment, but the client asked for 
Linux and I have more development experience (and a good working setup) in 
Linux.

Bottom line: I got what I needed, but my limited hardware and specific use
had a lot to do with the path I took.

Regards.
 - John Mills
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Mandatory Access Control

2004-03-21 Thread ner0
Hello,
Where can i find good tutorial / hints / document (or other) about MAC and
maclabels.
I asked on usenet, i searched in google and there is nothing any good
resources.
Why itsn't have good documentation?


I got first small problem:
# touch 1
# getfmac 1
1: biba/high
# setfmac biba/low 1
setfmac: labeling not supported in 1
#

why?
I did (tunefs -l enable), I have MAC option in kernel, and mac biba enabled
in loader.conf
I only try to build very secure system but I don't know how to use mac.
Thanks for any help.

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jail - updating/patching

2004-03-21 Thread Chad M Stewart
I've got my first jail up and working, installed Apache and just 
generally poking around.  There is one area of jail management that 
I've not found any documentation for.  How does one keep it up to date? 
  Keeping things from ports updated is straight forward, the same as 
any real host.  I'm wondering about things that were placed there by 
the 'make installworld DESTDIR=path-to-jail'.  How are those things 
kept up to date?  Later down the road when I update the host system to 
the latest -stable branch, how would my jails be affected?  upgraded?

I'm doing this on 4.9-RELEASE-p4.

Thanks,
Chad


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Re: time sync tool?

2004-03-21 Thread Black Dragon
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 08:44:57PM -0700, Dan MacMillan wrote:

  Zhang Weiwu Sent: March 20, 2004 20:28
 
  Hello. Is there a time sync tool for FreeBSD? My local clock seems alway
  several minutes late, can I run a daemon and sync with a time server once
  several day?
 
 Yes, there is.  Take a look at man ntpd(8).

See also:

man rc.conf(5)

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SIO flags -- setting and checking

2004-03-21 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Hi --

I am running FreeBSD 4.9 on a system whose sole purpose in life is to be an NTP time server.  It has two reference clocks attached that communicate via serial ports.  I've built my own kernel to incorporate the PPS API and kernel timekeeping discipline (no patches of my own; just enabling options).

To get maximum performance from these clocks, it's important to minimize the jitter in the serial data stream.  To do that, I've also modified the kernel options to set flags 0x02 (disable FIFO) on the two sio ports that talk to my clocks; this lowers jitter by letting the characters get out of the UART one at a time, rather than in bunches.

I am getting the expected results on one of the serial ports and one of the clocks, but the other port is not showing the performance I would expect.  Therefore, I'm trying to troubleshoot (and by the way, when I'm finished this info is going into the NTP Wiki which serves as an FAQ).

I have three questions:

First, on a 4.9 system is there a way to change the sio flags short of rebuilding the kernel?  I know there's a mechanism for 5.0, but I haven't been able to figure out if there's an easier way for my system.

Second, is there a way short of looking at the kernel configuration files to tell what flags are actually set on an sio port?

Third, is there any other tweaking that might improve the jitter in the serial data stream.  Note that actual latency isn't a problem as I can compensate for that, but smoothness of the data flow is the key thing.  Buffers are bad for this application!

Thanks!

John Ackermann
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Re: jail - updating/patching

2004-03-21 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 10:22:54AM -0500, Chad M Stewart wrote:
 
 I've got my first jail up and working, installed Apache and just 
 generally poking around.  There is one area of jail management that 
 I've not found any documentation for.  How does one keep it up to date? 
   Keeping things from ports updated is straight forward, the same as 
 any real host.  I'm wondering about things that were placed there by 
 the 'make installworld DESTDIR=path-to-jail'.  How are those things 
 kept up to date?  Later down the road when I update the host system to 
 the latest -stable branch, how would my jails be affected?  upgraded?

If it's a fat jail (as described in the jail(8) man page, then you can
keep it up to date by doing:

# make installworld DESTDIR=/path/to/jail

then log into the jail, and run 'mergemaster'.  You should incorporate
these stages into whatever your routine is for doing system upgrades,
so you keep jail and host system updated in synch.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: .mbox extension question

2004-03-21 Thread Charles Swiger
On Mar 20, 2004, at 10:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
how do i extract file.mbox?
A .mbox file is simply a bunch of email messages appended to one 
another, but normally you don't need to do anything special with it: 
your mail reader, or a POP or IMAP server should understand the 
contents as-is.

However, if you want to process each message individually, look at 
formail, which is part of the mail/procmail port...

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Re: no support!

2004-03-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier

I'd be curious as to what brands of CDrom/DVDs he's running myself ...
I've never had a problem loading up on any CDRom I've ever used, and I
thought that CDroms were pretty standard, like floppies, nowadays ..

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, Remko Lodder wrote:

 GP wrote:

  On the box that you sell your FreeBSD software it says: It's easy to turn
  any pc into an internet, networking powerhouse!  ... any pc ... and still
  I cannot get it going!?  That is because I just found out that the 3 CD-Roms
  and 2 DVDs I got none is compatible or supported by you.
  I got Linux going on it but I run into dependencies and that is why I
  thought you might be the right choice.
  What should I do?
 
  Thanks,
 
  George
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 Hi George,

 Can you describe your problem in more detail,
 since there can be many dependencies , for example, in the ports you
 have dependencies. But also when building your own kernel you have
 dependencies.

 So, could you please be more specific so that we can try and help you?

 Thanks,

 --
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 Kind regards,

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 Elvandar.org/DSINet.org
 www.mostly-harmless.nl Dutch community for helping newcomers on the
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Re: .mbox extension question

2004-03-21 Thread Chris
On Sunday 21 March 2004 10:53 am, Charles Swiger wrote:
 On Mar 20, 2004, at 10:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  how do i extract file.mbox?

Perhaps he's looking to salvage the mail in mbox to be exported to 
outlook/express?

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Re: no support!

2004-03-21 Thread Chris
On Sunday 21 March 2004 10:53 am, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
 I'd be curious as to what brands of CDrom/DVDs he's running myself ...
 I've never had a problem loading up on any CDRom I've ever used, and I
 thought that CDroms were pretty standard, like floppies, nowadays ..

 On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, Remko Lodder wrote:
  GP wrote:
   On the box that you sell your FreeBSD software it says: It's easy to
   turn any pc into an internet, networking powerhouse!  ... any pc ...
   and still I cannot get it going!?  That is because I just found out
   that the 3 CD-Roms and 2 DVDs I got none is compatible or supported by
   you.

Let's look at his wording - The last line. Compatible or supported by you 
(meaning FreeBSD I assume).

So - where did he buy this box? Did he order it via The Mall? Is it some 
other vender like cheap CD's or what ever it's called.

I find this very hard to believe - so with that, Why not look to your PC's 
bios and ensure that your CD Reader is set as the 1st boot device. 

Then we'll work from there.

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Re: freeBSD server

2004-03-21 Thread Charles Swiger
On Mar 21, 2004, at 6:49 AM, Martijn wrote:
I am planning on running a BSD server with DNS and an apache server, 
maybe an
dhcp server to. (No X). What would be the minimum requirements for 
this?
DNS and DHCP are relatively lightweight, so the main question is how 
much traffic you expect the web server to handle.  If you're going to 
handle less than 100K hits per day (approx 1 hit per second), you're 
only going to need something like a Pentium-100 grade machine with 32MB 
of RAM.

If you generate dynamic content rather than serving up static HTML, 
your workload and requirements will go up quite a bit, since dynamic 
websites generally involve some combination of a database and Perl, 
Python, or some other scripting language...

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[Q] Best location of ntpd driftfile ?

2004-03-21 Thread Stefan A. Deutscher

Hi all,

  setting up ntpd, I find that its default location for the drift file
is /etc/ntp.drift.

In a way it is part of the configuration an may well belong in /etc, on
the other hand I'd rather just have files in /etc which _I_ modify.

I would expect the content of ntpd.drift to vary over time, and somehow
I would have expected it to belong in the /var part of the hierarchy,
but 'man hier' does not offer any serious evidence (should it be
/var/db/ntp.dift)?

So, what's the canonical way to place this file? (And no, I do _not_
want to know at this time whether anal-retentive is spelt with or
without a hyphen. I will post that question in a separate thread as need
arises :-)


Cheers,
   Stefan

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Re: [Q] Best location of ntpd driftfile ?

2004-03-21 Thread Charles Swiger
On Mar 21, 2004, at 1:30 PM, Stefan A. Deutscher wrote:
  setting up ntpd, I find that its default location for the drift file
is /etc/ntp.drift.
Right, and that is probably the best location, too.

In a way it is part of the configuration an may well belong in /etc, on
the other hand I'd rather just have files in /etc which _I_ modify.
At one point (15 years ago :-), some people used to modify the contents 
of ntp.drift by hand.

This was for machines which were not connected to a network; by keeping 
track of the system time drift against an external time reference 
source over the course of a few weeks, one could compute the right 
value for ntp.drift and then run ntpd to correct that drift.

I would expect the content of ntpd.drift to vary over time,
ntp.drift normally converges and stabilizes after a while (a few days 
to a few weeks), unless the hardware clock is bad.

and somehow I would have expected it to belong in the /var part of the 
hierarchy, but 'man hier' does not offer any serious evidence (should 
it be
/var/db/ntp.dift)?
Hmm.  Well, ntpd predates the notion of /var, but you could put the 
drift file under there if you wanted to.  I think keeping DNS zone 
files under /var/named makes a lot more sense than under /etc/named, 
for instance, but I wouldn't move ntp.drift out of /etc myself.

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Re: .mbox extension question

2004-03-21 Thread Charles Swiger
On Mar 21, 2004, at 11:55 AM, Chris wrote:
On Sunday 21 March 2004 10:53 am, Charles Swiger wrote:
On Mar 20, 2004, at 10:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
how do i extract file.mbox?
[ ... ]
Perhaps he's looking to salvage the mail in mbox to be exported to
outlook/express?
I vaguely recall that Outlook/OE had an import Unix mail capability 
that would accept a .mbox file as-is.  If not, I suspect it would be 
easier to place that file in ~/mbox or whatever, run a popd, and grab 
the mail via POP...

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Re: .mbox extension question

2004-03-21 Thread Chris
On Sunday 21 March 2004 11:40 am, Charles Swiger wrote:
 On Mar 21, 2004, at 11:55 AM, Chris wrote:
  On Sunday 21 March 2004 10:53 am, Charles Swiger wrote:
  On Mar 20, 2004, at 10:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  how do i extract file.mbox?
 
  [ ... ]
  Perhaps he's looking to salvage the mail in mbox to be exported to
  outlook/express?

 I vaguely recall that Outlook/OE had an import Unix mail capability
 that would accept a .mbox file as-is.  If not, I suspect it would be
 easier to place that file in ~/mbox or whatever, run a popd, and grab
 the mail via POP...

There are utils in the ports (currently escapes me) however, they really don't 
work all that well. Oh well - it was just a guess anyhow.

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ndiscvt in -current

2004-03-21 Thread Tim Hawkins
Does anybody know if the is an official help/howto/webpage for Project Evil, 
Im trying to get my Broadcom wireless card running and the man pages are less 
than usefull. 
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Re: [Q] Best location of ntpd driftfile ?

2004-03-21 Thread Wayne Sierke
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 04:04, Charles Swiger wrote:
 On Mar 21, 2004, at 1:30 PM, Stefan A. Deutscher wrote:
setting up ntpd, I find that its default location for the drift file
  is /etc/ntp.drift.
 
 Right, and that is probably the best location, too.
 
Looks like it's been moved to /var/db/ntpd.drift in FreeBSD-5




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Re: portupgrade error?

2004-03-21 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 00:57:34 -0500
Ralph M. Los [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Has anyone ever had this problem:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]portupgrade mozilla-devel
 /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:35:in `require': No such file to load --
 pkgtools (LoadError)
 from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:35

Try rebuilding the pkgdb first, iirc that will some times cuase an
error like that. You want to rebuild it in fix it.

If that does not fix it, reinstall the port... There is one update
depending on what you have installed, that iirc, will also cuase an
error like that.
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Re: special characters, ie spanish accents

2004-03-21 Thread Kent Stewart
On Sunday 21 March 2004 03:49 am, Gerard Seibert wrote:
 On Saturday, March 20, 2004 7:39:14 PM Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 |Message: 38
 |Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 16:37:50 -0800
 |From: Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |Subject: Re: special characters, ie spanish accents
 |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |Cc: chip [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |Content-Type: text/plain;  charset=iso-8859-1
 |
 |On Saturday 20 March 2004 03:46 pm, chip wrote:
 | How do I get the special characters to work, which work in MS
 | Windoze using the conbination of right-alt+4digit code? I need to
 | be able to use certain accents and characters found in spanish
 | writing. I am using FBSD-5.1 with XFCE window manager.
 | Thanks,
 | Chip
 |
 |I use kde-3.2.1, which allows you to set the
 |regional and accessability  keyboard layouts. I use the es Spanish
 |option. You don't have to do the terrible alt+keypad sequence..
 | There are a lot of people that have used xdb to do the same thing.
 | Do an archive search.
 |
 |BTW, you can do the same thing with W2K or XP. You choose the
 | keyboard layout and you hold the right altshift down to
 | switch. If you do a web search on keyboard layouts and go to the
 | Microsoft site, you can grab images of the keyboard.
 |
 |Kent
 |
 |---
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 |
 |http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html

 ** Reply Separator **
 Sunday, March 21, 2004 6:43:35 AM


 I have no intentions of starting an argument, however I do seriously
 disagree with your assessment that using the ALT+NUM-KEYBOARD
 sequence is terrible. I find it to be a very ingenious and quick way
 to insert characters without going through he hassle of changing
 keyboard assignments, etc. This becomes even more important when
 there is the possibility that others may be using the same computer
 and are not aware that changes have been made to the system.

 Well that is my 2¢ {alt155} worth.


It isn't something to argue about. What you are the most comfortable 
with is always the best way. I used the altkeypad sequence for a 
number of years. I didn't make a real effort to switch to something 
else until I found that the altkeypad sequence was not being 
interpreted on all computers as the same character.

I take a document sent from a Mac OS/X machine and convert it into html. 
The Mac bullets became a ¥ on my FreeBSD system. Finding a sequence to 
make sed batch convert them into html bullets was interesting :).

If you are only going to add a few characters, your altkeypad may be 
the most efficient. I have to press 2 at the same time and then press 2 
keys to get the special character. You are ahead at this point because 
I am going to have to press 2 more at the same time to switch back. If 
we are writing a paragraph or so, I will be ahead on keystrokes at the 
2nd special character. Speed wise, I may be ahead regardless since 
everything keeps my hands in the home key position.

If you are just starting out, it is a function of what makes you 
proficient with the least effort. Having to only memorize 10 
altkeypad characters instead of 30 is a different matter. 

Have you ever used a keyboard layout with dead keys? For the Spanish 
acute's, you press the apostrophy and then the key you want to acute. 
You don't even have to take your hands away from the home positions to 
type them. The quote is also a dead key for characters such as Ü, 
another one for ñ, and etc. If you press a dead key and the space bar, 
you get the original character.

There is also an English International layout that gives you many of the 
dead keys and you still see the original layout for English keyboards. 
I think the right alt adds a number of characters to your choices. 
You have to memorize where they are on the keyboard. I really hate to 
memorize something when I have an intuitive choice with the dead keys. 

If I was starting over, this would have probably been my first choice 
for an alternate keyboard layout. Getting me to switch to this, at this 
point, would be as difficult as getting you to drop the altkeypad 
sequences. It goes into my category of fixing something that isn't 
broken.

When you use layouts, you haven't really modified your keyboard but have 
added an additional one to your choices. You have to do something 
physical to switch from one to the other.

The xdb route gives you something like alte for é and etc. I think it 
is the best choice but have been too lazy to change my keyboard 
assignment. You have a number of intuitive choices and not as much to 
memorize as you do with the alt keypad sequences.

If you use something like Adobe's GoLive to maintain html, it will 
switch your dead key typed é into acute; and leave your html as 
something other computers recognize as an acute. It doesn't do this 
with the altkeypad characters.

BTW, your ¢ is a really good example because it is not available on 
either of the layouts that I use.

Kent

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Re: [Q] Best location of ntpd driftfile ?

2004-03-21 Thread Charles Swiger
On Mar 21, 2004, at 12:54 PM, Wayne Sierke wrote:
[ ...with regard to where ntp.drift should be... ]
Looks like it's been moved to /var/db/ntpd.drift in FreeBSD-5
Well, that's reasonable, too.

Now that I'm thinking about this, in particular, moving files which 
change regularly out of /etc into /var helps one mount root (/) 
read-only, which is sometimes desirable for embedded appliances and the 
like which boot off of limited-write media like compact-flash...

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Re: no support!

2004-03-21 Thread Bob Johnson
On Sunday 21 March 2004 12:00 pm, Chris Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 On Sunday 21 March 2004 10:53 am, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
  I'd be curious as to what brands of CDrom/DVDs he's running myself
  ... I've never had a problem loading up on any CDRom I've ever
  used, and I thought that CDroms were pretty standard, like
  floppies, nowadays ..
 
  On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, Remko Lodder wrote:
   GP wrote:
On the box that you sell your FreeBSD software it says: It's
easy to turn any pc into an internet, networking powerhouse! 
... any pc ... and still I cannot get it going!?  That is
because I just found out that the 3 CD-Roms and 2 DVDs I got
none is compatible or supported by you.

 Let's look at his wording - The last line. Compatible or supported by
 you (meaning FreeBSD I assume).

 So - where did he buy this box? Did he order it via The Mall? Is it
 some other vender like cheap CD's or what ever it's called.

 I find this very hard to believe - so with that, Why not look to your
 PC's bios and ensure that your CD Reader is set as the 1st boot
 device.

 Then we'll work from there.

I interpreted it to mean that his CD and DVD drives were not compatible 
with FreeBSD.  I have some old drives that are not compatible.  One 
is so old it won't read a CD-R, for instance.  Another few cannot boot, 
but I can install FreeBSD with them if I create boot floppies, as 
described in the instructions.  

More detail about his specific problems would certainly help.

- Bob
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Re: Do I really need to rebuilding *everything*

2004-03-21 Thread Mark
- Original Message - 
From: Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: Do I really need to rebuilding *everything*

  Pardon my daftness, but how is a 'file' against, say, httpd, like
  this,
 
  file /usr/local/sbin/httpd
  /usr/local/sbin/httpd: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386,
  version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not
  stripped
 
  going to tell me whether httpd was dynamically linked against
  OpenSSL, or statically? It just tells me httpd uses shared libraries.
  Or does it mean it ONLY uses shared libraries?
 

 I use a script that I call pkgreq (pkg-required). It is

 # cat pkgreq
 #! /bin/sh
 cd /var/db/pkg
 pkg_info -R $1* | more

Thanks. I used this info, and the ldd command. I pretty much rebuilt
everything anyway. :) I am setting up a new FreeBSD 4.9R-p3 server; and I
figure now is still the time to do major changes.

What about tcp_wrappers, though? I rebuild stunnel (inet-version), and it
still says,

stunnel 3.26 on i386-unknown-freebsd4.9 PTHREAD+LIBWRAP with OpenSSL 0.9.7c
30 Sep 2003

Odd; because the stand-alone stunnel, via the ports, seems ok:

stunnel 4.04 on i386-portbld-freebsd4.9 PTHREAD+LIBWRAP with OpenSSL 0.9.7d
17 Mar 2004

Besides, tcp_wrappers does not seem to be in the ports anyway (which makes
sense, as it is part of the base-system). Still, do I need a new
tcp_wrappers? And if so, where do I find it?

Thanks,

- Mark

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Problem in Netgraph ( TESTING OF MY NODE )

2004-03-21 Thread manish gautam
Ist problem
=

i hav created my own node named m .and using
commands

kldload netgraph
kldload ng_ether
kldload ng_m

i also create an ether node and then i attach my m
node to ether node using 

ngctl mkpeer ed0: m upper right

 after that on command ::--

ngctl msg my_m: getstats  ( my_m is name of peer to
ether i.e my node )

result is as foolows ::--

Rec'd response getstats (1) from my_m::
Args:  { right={inOctets=3508 inFrames=54 }
left={outOctets=3508 outFrames=54 } }

Does that mean my node is working... YES or  NO?
If yes , is every packet coming through ethernet card
pass through my node.
If no, how do I check it and made every packet pass
through my own node.

IInd problem


Its a silly problem , i hav downloaded ethereal
packages named

tethereal.tar.gz
tethereal-0.9.10.tar

How can I install ethereal on my machine using above
said packages,? do i need more packages ?

Reply as soon as possible

Rgds
Manish Gautam 



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RE: no support!

2004-03-21 Thread gp
The CD drives I am using are:
TAISATAP.SYS model XM-5702B and the other Mitsumi atapi FX120T,
downloaded drive ide158.exe that is called now MTMCDAI.sys

I got the FreeBSD 5.1 at CompUSA for $60.
First I downloaded the floppy images from your website but there were the
wrong version and so I created the correct version off the CD that provided
the utilities.

The thing is, once I get to the option for installing from what media and
select the first one, that is the CD/DVD it cannot recognize the CD.  Then I
went to the set up at other screen but still cannot mount the CD.

Thanks,
George

-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 9:54 AM
To: Remko Lodder
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: no support!



I'd be curious as to what brands of CDrom/DVDs he's running myself ...
I've never had a problem loading up on any CDRom I've ever used, and I
thought that CDroms were pretty standard, like floppies, nowadays ..

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, Remko Lodder wrote:

 GP wrote:

  On the box that you sell your FreeBSD software it says: It's easy to
turn
  any pc into an internet, networking powerhouse!  ... any pc ... and
still
  I cannot get it going!?  That is because I just found out that the 3
CD-Roms
  and 2 DVDs I got none is compatible or supported by you.
  I got Linux going on it but I run into dependencies and that is why I
  thought you might be the right choice.
  What should I do?
 
  Thanks,
 
  George
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 Hi George,

 Can you describe your problem in more detail,
 since there can be many dependencies , for example, in the ports you
 have dependencies. But also when building your own kernel you have
 dependencies.

 So, could you please be more specific so that we can try and help you?

 Thanks,

 --
 --

 Kind regards,

 Remko Lodder
 Elvandar.org/DSINet.org
 www.mostly-harmless.nl Dutch community for helping newcomers on the
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RE: no support!

2004-03-21 Thread gp
I am up and installing!!!
If anything comes up I'll let you know.

Thank you guys,

George

-Original Message-
From: Remko Lodder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 6:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: no support!


GP wrote:

 On the box that you sell your FreeBSD software it says: It's easy to turn
 any pc into an internet, networking powerhouse!  ... any pc ... and
still
 I cannot get it going!?  That is because I just found out that the 3
CD-Roms
 and 2 DVDs I got none is compatible or supported by you.
 I got Linux going on it but I run into dependencies and that is why I
 thought you might be the right choice.
 What should I do?

 Thanks,

 George
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Hi George,

Can you describe your problem in more detail,
since there can be many dependencies , for example, in the ports you
have dependencies. But also when building your own kernel you have
dependencies.

So, could you please be more specific so that we can try and help you?

Thanks,

--
--

Kind regards,

Remko Lodder
Elvandar.org/DSINet.org
www.mostly-harmless.nl Dutch community for helping newcomers on the
hackerscene

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Re: no support!

2004-03-21 Thread Remko Lodder
gp wrote:

I am up and installing!!!
If anything comes up I'll let you know.
Thank you guys,

George

-Original Message-
From: Remko Lodder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 6:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: no support!
GP wrote:


On the box that you sell your FreeBSD software it says: It's easy to turn
any pc into an internet, networking powerhouse!  ... any pc ... and
still

I cannot get it going!?  That is because I just found out that the 3
CD-Roms

and 2 DVDs I got none is compatible or supported by you.
I got Linux going on it but I run into dependencies and that is why I
thought you might be the right choice.
What should I do?
Thanks,

George
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Hi George,

Can you describe your problem in more detail,
since there can be many dependencies , for example, in the ports you
have dependencies. But also when building your own kernel you have
dependencies.
So, could you please be more specific so that we can try and help you?

Thanks,

--
--
Kind regards,

Remko Lodder
Elvandar.org/DSINet.org
www.mostly-harmless.nl Dutch community for helping newcomers on the
hackerscene
Hi George,

No problem i think, do you know what the issue was? For logging 
convience :-)

Cheers

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Remko Lodder
Elvandar.org/DSINet.org
www.mostly-harmless.nl Dutch community for helping newcomers on the 
hackerscene

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Re: special characters, ie spanish accents

2004-03-21 Thread David Fleck
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, chip wrote:
 How do I get the special characters to work, which work in MS Windoze
 using the conbination of right-alt+4digit code? I need to be able to use
 certain accents and characters found in spanish writing. I am using
 FBSD-5.1 with XFCE window manager.

This may be of limited use to you, but the vim editor has this ability
built-in (if compiled that way).  To see what's available, start a vim
session and type ':help digraphs'.

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RE: no support!

2004-03-21 Thread GP
Hi Remko,

Even I set to load from CD and followed the description to just enter it
would not rally set CD to be the first device to load from.  It made me
think that something must be here not functioning correctly and so I went
back for the forth time and finally set CD to be the start up device.
Tech doc not really clear about the step in the middle, I could save entire
day if that would be slightly more clear.

Thank you,

George

-Original Message-
From: Remko Lodder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 12:02 PM
To: gp
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: no support!


gp wrote:

 I am up and installing!!!
 If anything comes up I'll let you know.

 Thank you guys,

 George

 -Original Message-
 From: Remko Lodder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 6:24 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: no support!


 GP wrote:


On the box that you sell your FreeBSD software it says: It's easy to turn
any pc into an internet, networking powerhouse!  ... any pc ... and

 still

I cannot get it going!?  That is because I just found out that the 3

 CD-Roms

and 2 DVDs I got none is compatible or supported by you.
I got Linux going on it but I run into dependencies and that is why I
thought you might be the right choice.
What should I do?

Thanks,

George
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 Hi George,

 Can you describe your problem in more detail,
 since there can be many dependencies , for example, in the ports you
 have dependencies. But also when building your own kernel you have
 dependencies.

 So, could you please be more specific so that we can try and help you?

 Thanks,

 --
 --

 Kind regards,

 Remko Lodder
 Elvandar.org/DSINet.org
 www.mostly-harmless.nl Dutch community for helping newcomers on the
 hackerscene


Hi George,

No problem i think, do you know what the issue was? For logging
convience :-)

Cheers

--
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Kind regards,

Remko Lodder
Elvandar.org/DSINet.org
www.mostly-harmless.nl Dutch community for helping newcomers on the
hackerscene

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Re: no support!

2004-03-21 Thread Chris
On Sunday 21 March 2004 01:18 pm, GP wrote:
 Hi Remko,

 Even I set to load from CD and followed the description to just enter it
 would not rally set CD to be the first device to load from.  It made me
 think that something must be here not functioning correctly and so I went
 back for the forth time and finally set CD to be the start up device.
 Tech doc not really clear about the step in the middle, I could save entire
 day if that would be slightly more clear.

 Thank you,

 George

... As I said - see the bios, ensure the Reader is set to boot 1st.
Tada!

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utilities

2004-03-21 Thread Jack Raats
Hi everyone,

Are there any utilities available which checks de ports dependencies and if
not good, will restore these dependencies?

Met vriendelijke groeten
Jack Raats

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Re: utilities

2004-03-21 Thread C Stefan

yes 
try portupgrade  tools
it`s magic :)


On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:20:18 +0100
Jack Raats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 
 Are there any utilities available which checks de ports dependencies and if
 not good, will restore these dependencies?
 
 Met vriendelijke groeten
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Re: utilities

2004-03-21 Thread Jack Raats
I use portupgrade for upgrading the ports... But what do you mean with
tools?

Jack

 C.Stefan wrote:

 yes
 try portupgrade  tools
 it`s magic :)


 On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:20:18 +0100
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  Hi everyone,
 
  Are there any utilities available which checks de ports dependencies and
if
  not good, will restore these dependencies?
 
  Met vriendelijke groeten
  Jack Raats
 
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[Q] Another ntdp question: server?

2004-03-21 Thread Stefan A. Deutscher
Howdy,

 having sort of clarified the location of the drift file I have come
across another ntpd thingy I cannot quite interpret:

# tail /var/log/messages | cut -c 7-
 18:28:41 dvorak ntpd[1192]: ntpd 4.1.1b-a Thu Jun  5 00:47:30 GMT 2003 (1)
 18:28:41 dvorak ntpd[1192]: kernel time discipline status 2040
 18:28:41 dvorak ntpd[1192]: getnetnum: ntp1.ptb.de invalid host number, line ignored
 18:28:41 dvorak ntpd[1192]: getnetnum: ntp2.ptb.de invalid host number, line ignored
 18:32:03 dvorak ntpd[1192]: time set -0.242122 s
 18:34:41 dvorak ntpd[1192]: ntpd exiting on signal 3
 18:35:26 dvorak ntpd[1261]: ntpd 4.1.1b-a Thu Jun  5 00:47:30 GMT 2003 (1)
 18:35:26 dvorak ntpd[1261]: kernel time discipline status 2040
 18:35:26 dvorak ntpd[1261]: getnetnum: ntp1.ptb.de invalid host number, line ignored
 18:35:26 dvorak ntpd[1261]: getnetnum: ntp2.ptb.de invalid host number, line ignored
 18:48:24 dvorak ntpd[1261]: time set -0.079761 s

So, what I do not quite understand is why 
(a) it ignores the time server name, 
(b) still sets the time
(c) never again complains about the host until quit and restarted


Oddly enough, the time server is found via a nslookup, and it works when
given to ntpd (or ntpdate, for that matter) on the command line.

# nslookup ntp1.ptb.de
 Server:  cache1.tiscali.de
 Address:  195.185.185.195
 Non-authoritative answer:
 Name:ntp1.ptb.de
 Address:  192.53.103.103


'man ntp.conf' seems to indicate that IP address or machine name are
allowed, and that there is some flag to enable name resolution (which I
did not find):

 [ ... snip ... ]

 server address [key key | autokey] [burst] [iburst] [version version]
[prefer] [minpoll minpoll] [maxpoll maxpoll]

 [ ... snip ... ]

 These four commands specify the time server name or address to be used
 and the mode in which to operate.  The address can be either a DNS name
 or an IP address in dotted-quad notation.

 [ ... snip ... ]


 However, when the configuration file contains host names, or when a
 server or client is configured remotely, host names are resolved using
 the DNS and a separate name resolution process.  In order to protect
 against bogus name server messages, name resolution messages are
 authenticated using an internally generated key which is normally
 invisible to the user. However, if cryptographic support is disabled,
 the name resolution process will fail.  This can be avoided either by
 specifying IP addresses instead of host names, which is generally
 inadvisable, or by enabling the flag for name resolution and disabled
 it once the name resolution process is complete.



As a side effect, when sending SIGQUIT or SIGTERM ntpd does not remove
the PID file created with the -p option (as in /usr/sbin/ntpd -p
/var/run/ntpd.pid) -- would that be a bug or a feature I don't
understand?


 Thanks in advance for any light on these issues  Cheers, Stefan


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Re: utilities

2004-03-21 Thread C Stefan

I mean after a cvsup try running :
portsdb -uU : that will create an index of your installed  outdated ports  if you 
will have stale and corrupt dependencies you have the chance to fix them interactively 
then try portupgrade -aRr this will check your dependencies back  forth and 
gracefully try to resolve them

tools are : portcvsweb   ports_glob   portsdb  portversion
portinstall  portsclean   
maybe there are some more out there but portupgrade I find satisfactory for my needs


On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:44:24 +0100
Jack Raats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I use portupgrade for upgrading the ports... But what do you mean with
 tools?
 
 Jack
 
  C.Stefan wrote:
 
  yes
  try portupgrade  tools
  it`s magic :)
 
 
  On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:20:18 +0100
  Jack Raats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Hi everyone,
  
   Are there any utilities available which checks de ports dependencies and
 if
   not good, will restore these dependencies?
  
   Met vriendelijke groeten
   Jack Raats
  
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X is broken....

2004-03-21 Thread Ralph M. Los
Hi,
Something happened, most likely a weird error on my part, but
when I booted up and hit my usual startx I got a bad command error.
So I went into the ports directory and installed X, which is weird
because it didn't complain about being installed already?
Now I get this:

Fatal server error:
Could not open default font 'fixed'


What gives?

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Re: X is broken....

2004-03-21 Thread Kent Stewart
On Sunday 21 March 2004 12:11 pm, Ralph M. Los wrote:
 Hi,
   Something happened, most likely a weird error on my part, but
 when I booted up and hit my usual startx I got a bad command error.
 So I went into the ports directory and installed X, which is weird
 because it didn't complain about being installed already?
   Now I get this:

 Fatal server error:
 Could not open default font 'fixed'


 What gives?

There have been a couple of changes regarding fonts. Could you have 
updated pieces of dependancies of freetype2 and not all of them.

Kent

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phpmyadmin forbidden?

2004-03-21 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
I wanted to install this on my 5.2.1-p3, but it's forbidden. Emailing 
the maintainer got no response. Does anyone know what's up with this? 
I'm told it will make my life much easier 

-ste
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Re: phpmyadmin forbidden?

2004-03-21 Thread Randy Pratt
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:26:52 -0500 Shaun wrote:
 
 I wanted to install this on my 5.2.1-p3, but it's forbidden. 
 Emailing the maintainer got no response. Does anyone know what's up
 with this? I'm told it will make my life much easier 
 
 -ste

You could look at the security entry for phpmyadmin at:

http://people.freebsd.org/~eik/portaudit/

That is the list of ports vulnerabilities which 
/usr/ports/security/portaudit uses.  Portaudit is still in 
development but it seems to work good for me on 4.x.

Randy
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mail probs after upreving to 4.9...

2004-03-21 Thread Gary Kline
Ok, what I am not doing *right*??  mail is getting thru to me
at tao.thought.org--but when I try outgoing, (via 'mail') I
see:

pp 14:03 tao [1670] collect: Cannot write ./dfi2LM39fJ000550 (bfcommit, uid=1000, 
gid=25): Permission denied
queueup: cannot create queue file ./qfi2LM39fJ000550, euid=1000: Permission denied

Things in /var/spool look all right.  

1 drwxrws---  2 smmsp  smmsp   512 Sep 17  2002 clientmqueue
1 drwxr-xr-x  3 root   wheel   512 Mar 24  2002 cucipop
1 drwx-wx---  3 root   daemon  512 Feb  9  2003 cups
1 drwxrwxr-x  2 uucp   dialer  512 Mar 21 13:52 lock
1 drwxr-xr-x  6 root   daemon  512 Dec 18  2001 lpd
1 drwxr-xr-x  2 root   daemon  512 Mar 21 13:23 mqueue

Insights very welcome.

tia, guys,

gary

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dhcp problem, dont know what to do anymore

2004-03-21 Thread Julio Maciel
there is a very big txt log i made explaining allwell
I just installed freeBSD on my home, (5.2.1), and everything goes ok, BUT, i cant get 
dhcp, working...
on sysinstall, if I try to make my dhcp to be discovered, it freezes up, so i skiped 
this part
and then
after installing
everytime i try to run dhclient i get this: (i use cable modem):
DHCPDISCOVER on rl0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5
DHCPOFFER from 200.167.40.1
DHCPREQUEST on rl0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
DHCPREQUEST on rl0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
DHCPDISCOVER on rl0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4
DHCPOFFER from 200.167.40.1
DHCPREQUEST on rl0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
DHCPREQUEST on rl0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67

and after this, it just goes on a infinite loop
i tried tcpdump to help me, but i just understand a line of tcpdump... here is what is 
says:

any idea of how can i solve this???

tcpdump: listening on rl0
02:11:44.927998 62.34.47.230.2378  200.167.44.51.4662: S 1165485284:1165485284(0) win 
16384 mss 1420,nop,nop,sackOK (DF)
02:11:45.039756 217.136.155.126.2196  200.167.44.51.4662: S 4287223825:4287223825(0) 
win 64240 mss 1452,nop,nop,sackOK (DF)
02:11:45.124634 80.221.1.154.37375  200.167.44.51.4662: S 1353698121:1353698121(0) 
win 5808 mss 1452,sackOK,timestamp 829945792 0,nop,wscale 0 (DF)
02:11:46.461013 81.249.159.201.4927  200.167.44.51.4662: S 983537944:983537944(0) win 
16384 mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK (DF)
02:11:46.481028 69.22.119.192.3838  200.167.44.51.4662: S 3442908908:3442908908(0) 
win 55168 mss 1460,nop,wscale 3,nop,nop,sackOK
02:11:47.008052 0.0.0.0.bootpc  255.255.255.255.bootps:  xid:0x76168c79 file 
[|bootp] [tos 0x10]

02:11:47.728761 81.57.115.70.64528  200.167.44.51.4662: S 1906488484:1906488484(0) 
win 65535 mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 4218038929 0 (DF)
02:11:48.416135 200.167.40.1  239.255.255.250: igmp query v2 [max resp time 10] 
[gaddr 239.255.255.250] [ttl 1]
02:11:50.197610 fe80::2c0:a8ff:fe7a:d270  ff02::1:ff7a:d270: HBH icmp6: multicast 
listener report max resp delay: 0 addr: ff02::1:ff7a:d270 [hlim 1]
02:11:50.327907 81.57.115.70.64528  200.167.44.51.4662: S 1906488484:1906488484(0) 
win 65535 mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 4218038934 0 (DF)
02:11:51.063034 201.1.35.225.3232  200.167.44.51.4662: S 3984621272:3984621272(0) win 
16384 mss 1440,nop,nop,sackOK (DF)

02:11:51.257861 80.221.1.154.37375  200.167.44.51.4662: S 1353698121:1353698121(0) 
win 5808 mss 1452,sackOK,timestamp 829951792 0,nop,wscale 0 (DF) [tos 0x38   
 ]
02:11:52.115398 82.224.181.76.3797  200.167.44.51.4662: S 2009051266:2009051266(0) 
win 16384 mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK (DF)
02:11:53.430108 82.166.164.74.4644  200.167.44.51.4662: S 2172714527:2172714527(0) 
win 65280 mss 1360,nop,nop,sackOK (DF)

02:11:53.484413 81.57.115.70.64528  200.167.44.51.4662: S 1906488484:1906488484(0) 
win 65535 mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 4218038940 0 (DF)
02:11:53.745042 80.202.19.94.54770  200.167.44.51.4662: S 1468878454:1468878454(0) 
win 64240 mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK (DF)
02:11:54.123742 201.1.35.225.3232  200.167.44.51.4662: S 3984621272:3984621272(0) win 
16384 mss 1440,nop,nop,sackOK (DF)
02:11:56.343704 82.166.164.74.4644  200.167.44.51.4662: S 2172714527:2172714527(0) 
win 65280 mss 1360,nop,nop,sackOK (DF)
02:11:56.453808 81.57.115.70.64528  200.167.44.51.4662: S 1906488484:1906488484(0) 
win 65535 mss 1460 (DF)
02:11:56.820744 80.202.19.94.54770  200.167.44.51.4662: S 1468878454:1468878454(0) 
win 64240 mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK (DF)
02:11:57.415259 81.53.52.131.4090  200.167.44.51.4662: S 3508821142:3508821142(0) win 
16384 mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK (DF)
02:11:58.017734 0.0.0.0.bootpc  255.255.255.255.bootps:  xid:0x1a62971a [|bootp] [tos 
0x10]
02:11:58.108558 200.167.40.1.bootps  200.167.42.15.bootpc:  hops:1 xid:0x1a62971a 
Y:200.167.42.15 G:200.167.44.1 [|bootp] (DF) [tos 0x1,ECT(1)]
02:11:58.109200 0.0.0.0.bootpc  255.255.255.255.bootps:  xid:0x1a62971a file 
[|bootp] [tos 0x10]
02:11:58.119341 82.224.181.76.3797  200.167.44.51.4662: S 2009051266:2009051266(0) 
win 16384 mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK (DF)
02:11:59.502051 81.57.115.70.64528  200.167.44.51.4662: S 1906488484:1906488484(0) 
win 65535 mss 1460 (DF)
02:12:00.070206 201.1.35.225.3232  200.167.44.51.4662: S 3984621272:3984621272(0) win 
16384 mss 1440,nop,nop,sackOK (DF)
02:12:00.353545 81.53.52.131.4090  200.167.44.51.4662: S 3508821142:3508821142(0) win 
16384 mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK (DF)
02:12:01.017652 0.0.0.0.bootpc  255.255.255.255.bootps:  xid:0x1a62971a [|bootp] [tos 
0x10]
02:12:02.164142 82.166.164.74.4644  200.167.44.51.4662: S 2172714527:2172714527(0) 
win 65280 mss 1360,nop,nop,sackOK (DF)
02:12:02.355931 81.57.115.70.64528  200.167.44.51.4662: S 1906488484:1906488484(0) 
win 65535 mss 1460 (DF)
02:12:02.680533 80.202.19.94.54770  200.167.44.51.4662: S 1468878454:1468878454(0) 
win 64240 mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK (DF)
02:12:03.243274 80.221.1.154.37375  200.167.44.51.4662: S 1353698121:1353698121(0) 
win 

Re: Diskless PXE clients: switching FreeBSD kernels based on MAC address

2004-03-21 Thread Chris Roehrig
I'm following up on my original question and cross-posting it to the  
Soekris list in case this is useful for anyone else.  If there's an  
easier way to do this, I'd like to know!

Here's a bootloader script I wrote that works for me (FreeBSD  
4.9_RELEASE).

== kern_switch.4th  
=
\
\ kern_switch.4th
\   -- MAC-based kernel switching for PXE clients
\
\ Allows PXE booting of different kernels for different MAC  
addresses
\ using a shared NFS root partition.
\ Will use the default kernel if not booting from PXE or no HW MAC
\ addresses are matched.
\
\ USAGE:
\ 1.  Place this in /boot on the NFS server.
\ 2.  Include this from /boot/loader.conf using the following line:
\   exec=include /boot/kern_switch.4th
\ 3.  Edit the MAC address and kernel definitions below.
\ 4.  Make sure you have an alternate boot device handy when  
installing
\ so you can undo things if you make a mistake!
\
\ v 1.0; Mar_21_2004;  Chris Roehrig [EMAIL PROTECTED]

: switch_kernel ( kern_addr kern_n -- )
2dup . kern_switch DBG: switching kernel to  type cr
s kernel setenv
;
\ Check environment for loaddev...
s loaddev getenv  dup -1 = [if]
drop\ the -1 retval
.( kern_switch: no loaddev present in environment!) cr
[else]
2dup .( kern_switch: loaddev = ) type cr
s pxe0: compare 0= [if]
\ PXE Boot; get the hardware MAC address...
s boot.netif.hwaddr getenv  dup -1 = [if]
drop\ the -1 retval
.( kern_switch: no boot.netif.hwaddr present in environment!) cr
[else]
2dup .( kern_switch: boot.netif.hwaddr = ) type cr
\ switch on HW address...
\ ===
\ ENTER YOUR MAC ADDRESSES AND KERNEL NAMES HERE
\   Pad all MAC bytes to 2-digit, lower-case.
\   Be careful to preserve the space after s !
2dup s 00:00:24:c1:2a:64 compare 0= [if]
s /kernel.NET4501  switch_kernel [then]
2dup s 00:00:24:c1:35:50 compare 0= [if]
s /kernel.NET4801  switch_kernel [then]
\ ===
	2drop \ environment HW string

[then]
[then]
[then]


\ Display the kernel to be used...
s kernel getenv  dup -1  [if]
.( kern_switch: using kernel = ) type cr
[else]
drop
.( kern_switch: no kernel present in environment!) cr
[then]
 




On Mar 20, 2004, at 10:58, Chris Roehrig wrote:
I'm running FreeBSD 4.9_RELEASE and I'd like to share my server's root  
partition as the root partition for some diskless PXE clients, but I  
need different kernels for the server and clients.The /conf  
structure works great for providing different /etc environments for  
each machine, but I can't figure out how to boot a different kernel  
for my PXE clients.
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PPTP client LCP errors

2004-03-21 Thread Martin Tsachev
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi guys,

I'm having a problem connection to a PPTP server using FreeBSD 5.2 and pptp 
linux 1.3.1. It works fine from a Debian box that's behind the FreeBSD 
gateway that I want to connect to the VPN but since FreeBSD's ppp is 
different than the one in Linux I cannot simply copy my config.

The server doesn't use mppe, on windows you have to disable LCP extensions to 
connect. The linux config is pretty straightforward but if you need that I 
can copy it too.

Here's what I have on FreeBSD:

/etc/ppp/ppp.conf
vpn:
# down lcp
# disable vjcomp
# disable MSCHAPv2
# disable mppe
# enable deflate pred1
# close lcp
# lcp-echo-interval 30
# lcp-echo-request 0 
# open lcp
# set openmode passive

# set openmode passive
# set stopped 3
# disable lqr
 
 set authname username
 set authkey password
 set timeout 0
 set ifaddr 0 0
 add 192.168.0.0/16 HISADDR
# set log Phase LCP Connect tun Warning Alert
 set log phase chat lcp ipcp ccp tun command
# alias enable yes
# noauth

I start it by doing ppp ip vpn.

and in /var/log/ppp.log when trying to connect I get:

The following part is repeated a few times and I think it's failing:

Mar 22 00:34:57 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = 
Req-Sent 
Mar 22 00:34:57 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2] 
Mar 22 00:34:57 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2] 
Mar 22 00:34:57 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x 
Mar 22 00:34:57 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1500 
Mar 22 00:34:57 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0xda445afa 



Mar 22 00:34:52 mtb ppp[9415]: Phase: Using interface: tun0 
Mar 22 00:34:52 mtb ppp[9415]: Phase: deflink: Created in closed state 
Mar 22 00:34:52 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: Phase: PPP Started (direct mode). 
Mar 22 00:34:52 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Establish 
Mar 22 00:34:52 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: Phase: deflink: closed - opening 
Mar 22 00:34:52 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connected! 
Mar 22 00:34:52 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: Phase: deflink: opening - carrier 
Mar 22 00:34:53 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: Phase: deflink: carrier - lcp 
Mar 22 00:34:53 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP: FSM: Using deflink as a transport 
Mar 22 00:34:53 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Initial -- 
Closed 
Mar 22 00:34:53 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Closed -- 
Stopped 
Mar 22 00:34:54 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerStart 
Mar 22 00:34:54 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = 
Stopped 
Mar 22 00:34:54 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2] 
Mar 22 00:34:54 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2] 
Mar 22 00:34:54 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x 
Mar 22 00:34:54 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1500 
Mar 22 00:34:54 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0xda445afa 
Mar 22 00:34:54 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Stopped -- 
Req-Sent 
Mar 22 00:34:57 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = 
Req-Sent 
Mar 22 00:34:57 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2] 
Mar 22 00:34:57 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2] 
Mar 22 00:34:57 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x 
Mar 22 00:34:57 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1500 
Mar 22 00:34:57 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0xda445afa 
Mar 22 00:35:00 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = 
Req-Sent 
Mar 22 00:35:00 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2] 
Mar 22 00:35:00 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2] 
Mar 22 00:35:00 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x 
Mar 22 00:35:00 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1500 
Mar 22 00:35:00 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0xda445afa 
Mar 22 00:35:03 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = 
Req-Sent 
Mar 22 00:35:03 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2] 
Mar 22 00:35:03 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2] 
Mar 22 00:35:03 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x 
Mar 22 00:35:03 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1500 
Mar 22 00:35:03 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0xda445afa 
Mar 22 00:35:06 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = 
Req-Sent 
Mar 22 00:35:06 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2] 
Mar 22 00:35:06 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2] 
Mar 22 00:35:06 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x 
Mar 22 00:35:06 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1500 
Mar 22 00:35:06 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0xda445afa 
Mar 22 00:35:09 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerFinish 
Mar 22 00:35:09 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Req-Sent -- 
Stopped 
Mar 22 00:35:09 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Stopped -- 
Closed 
Mar 22 00:35:09 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Closed -- 
Initial 
Mar 22 00:35:09 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Disconnected! 
Mar 22 00:35:09 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 17 secs: 0 
octets in, 260 octets out 
Mar 22 00:35:09 mtb ppp[9415]: tun0: Phase: deflink: 0 

RE: no support!

2004-03-21 Thread GP
Chris,

I got Dell 17 monitor but the xconfig does not want to recognize it!

Would you know what to do about it?

Thanks,
George

-Original Message-
From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 12:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Remko Lodder
Subject: Re: no support!


On Sunday 21 March 2004 01:18 pm, GP wrote:
 Hi Remko,

 Even I set to load from CD and followed the description to just enter it
 would not rally set CD to be the first device to load from.  It made me
 think that something must be here not functioning correctly and so I went
 back for the forth time and finally set CD to be the start up device.
 Tech doc not really clear about the step in the middle, I could save
entire
 day if that would be slightly more clear.

 Thank you,

 George

... As I said - see the bios, ensure the Reader is set to boot 1st.
Tada!

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Re: no support!

2004-03-21 Thread Remko Lodder
GP wrote:

Chris,

I got Dell 17 monitor but the xconfig does not want to recognize it!

Would you know what to do about it?

Thanks,
George
-Original Message-
From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 12:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Remko Lodder
Subject: Re: no support!
On Sunday 21 March 2004 01:18 pm, GP wrote:

Hi Remko,

Even I set to load from CD and followed the description to just enter it
would not rally set CD to be the first device to load from.  It made me
think that something must be here not functioning correctly and so I went
back for the forth time and finally set CD to be the start up device.
Tech doc not really clear about the step in the middle, I could save
entire

day if that would be slightly more clear.

Thank you,

George


... As I said - see the bios, ensure the Reader is set to boot 1st.
Tada!
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Hi George,

Choose a Geneneric display and fill in your own refresh value's which 
are on the reference card you recieved with the monitor..
That always should work :)

Cheers

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Remko Lodder
Elvandar.org/DSINet.org
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FreeBSD

2004-03-21 Thread PHANDNLADAMS
I would like some information if I can load freeBSD on a secondary usp 
hard-drive.
And if I can boot up from that hard-drive.

Thank you very much.

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RE: no support!

2004-03-21 Thread GP
Chris,

no configuration seems to work!

George

-Original Message-
From: Remko Lodder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 4:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Chris; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: no support!


GP wrote:

 Chris,

 I got Dell 17 monitor but the xconfig does not want to recognize it!

 Would you know what to do about it?

 Thanks,
 George

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 12:19 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Remko Lodder
 Subject: Re: no support!


 On Sunday 21 March 2004 01:18 pm, GP wrote:

Hi Remko,

Even I set to load from CD and followed the description to just enter it
would not rally set CD to be the first device to load from.  It made me
think that something must be here not functioning correctly and so I went
back for the forth time and finally set CD to be the start up device.
Tech doc not really clear about the step in the middle, I could save

 entire

day if that would be slightly more clear.

Thank you,

George


 ... As I said - see the bios, ensure the Reader is set to boot 1st.
 Tada!

 --
 Best regards,
 Chris

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Hi George,

Choose a Geneneric display and fill in your own refresh value's which
are on the reference card you recieved with the monitor..
That always should work :)

Cheers

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Remko Lodder
Elvandar.org/DSINet.org
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Re: Top posting

2004-03-21 Thread Lucas Holt
Aside from mailing lists, I tend to be a top poster.  I don't like when 
people leave the last 12 emails and then bottom post.. i have to  
scroll all day.  The other irritant is people who actually post in the 
middle of messages.  That breaks the FLOW as well.  After someone 
replies top or bottom its VERY hard to read.

How about a new convention.  Delete everything but the last reply in 
the thread when you send to the list and say bottom post.  I can live 
with that as a top poster.  If I don't have to scroll all day to bottom 
post, its not a big deal.

The bottom line is that people reply.  This list is here to help users 
with FreeBSD.  I'd take an answer to my questions in any format!

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Re: Top posting

2004-03-21 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Sunday, 21 March 2004 at 19:35:48 -0500, Lucas Holt wrote:
 Aside from mailing lists, I tend to be a top poster.  I don't like
 when people leave the last 12 emails and then bottom post.. 

Bottom posting, where you leave the entire previous message, is only
marginally better than top posting.

 i have to scroll all day.

If the text is important, you should be reading it.  If it isn't, the
sender shouldn't have included it.

 The other irritant is people who actually post in the middle of
 messages.  That breaks the FLOW as well.

On the contrary, it shows you what the discussion is about.  In this
example, I'm answering your points one by one.  I'll repeat the whole
thing with top posting.  Tell me if it's easier to read.

 After someone replies top or bottom its VERY hard to read.

Agreed, mixing styles is the worst of the lot.  That's a very good
reason to insist on one style.

 How about a new convention.  Delete everything but the last reply in
 the thread when you send to the list and say bottom post.  I can
 live with that as a top poster.  If I don't have to scroll all day
 to bottom post, its not a big deal.

What's wrong with the convention we have?  I'll answer this message a
third time in the style you propose.  Tell me if it's easier to read.

Greg
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Re: Top posting

2004-03-21 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
The following message is the second in a series of three, intended to
show why top-posting is bad.  See the previous message (Message ID
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) for a version that I
consider understandable.

Bottom posting, where you leave the entire previous message, is only
marginally better than top posting.

If the text is important, you should be reading it.  If it isn't, the
sender shouldn't have included it.

On the contrary, it shows you what the discussion is about.  In this
example, I'm answering your points one by one.  I'll repeat the whole
thing with top posting.  Tell me if it's easier to read.

Agreed, mixing styles is the worst of the lot.  That's a very good
reason to insist on one style.

What's wrong with the convention we have?  I'll answer this message a
third time in the style you propose.  Tell me if it's easier to read.

Greg

On Sunday, 21 March 2004 at 19:35:48 -0500, Lucas Holt wrote:
 Aside from mailing lists, I tend to be a top poster.  I don't like when
 people leave the last 12 emails and then bottom post.. i have to
 scroll all day.  The other irritant is people who actually post in the
 middle of messages.  That breaks the FLOW as well.  After someone
 replies top or bottom its VERY hard to read.

 How about a new convention.  Delete everything but the last reply in
 the thread when you send to the list and say bottom post.  I can live
 with that as a top poster.  If I don't have to scroll all day to bottom
 post, its not a big deal.

 The bottom line is that people reply.  This list is here to help users
 with FreeBSD.  I'd take an answer to my questions in any format!


 Lucas Holt
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Re: Top posting

2004-03-21 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
The following message is the second in a series of three, intended to
show why bottom-posting (where a reply is completely separate from the
original message) is bad.  See the first message (Message ID
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) for a version that I
consider understandable.

On Sunday, 21 March 2004 at 19:35:48 -0500, Lucas Holt wrote:
 Aside from mailing lists, I tend to be a top poster.  I don't like when 
 people leave the last 12 emails and then bottom post.. i have to  
 scroll all day.  The other irritant is people who actually post in the 
 middle of messages.  That breaks the FLOW as well.  After someone 
 replies top or bottom its VERY hard to read.
 
 How about a new convention.  Delete everything but the last reply in 
 the thread when you send to the list and say bottom post.  I can live 
 with that as a top poster.  If I don't have to scroll all day to bottom 
 post, its not a big deal.
 
 The bottom line is that people reply.  This list is here to help users 
 with FreeBSD.  I'd take an answer to my questions in any format!
 
 
 Lucas Holt
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 'I try to think but nothing happens'
 -- Homer Jay Simpson

Bottom posting, where you leave the entire previous message, is only
marginally better than top posting.

If the text is important, you should be reading it.  If it isn't, the
sender shouldn't have included it.

On the contrary, it shows you what the discussion is about.  In this
example, I'm answering your points one by one.  I'll repeat the whole
thing with top posting.  Tell me if it's easier to read.

Agreed, mixing styles is the worst of the lot.  That's a very good
reason to insist on one style.

What's wrong with the convention we have?  I'll answer this message a
third time in the style you propose.  Tell me if it's easier to read.

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Re: Top posting

2004-03-21 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Monday, 22 March 2004 at 11:13:37 +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
 On Sunday, 21 March 2004 at 19:35:48 -0500, Lucas Holt wrote:
 Aside from mailing lists, I tend to be a top poster.  I don't like
 when people leave the last 12 emails and then bottom post..

 Bottom posting, where you leave the entire previous message, is only
 marginally better than top posting.

On Monday, 22 March 2004 at 11:15:14 +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
 The following message is the second in a series of three, intended to
 show why top-posting is bad.  See the previous message (Message ID
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]) for a version that I
 consider understandable.

On Monday, 22 March 2004 at 11:16:07 +1030, Greg Lehey wrote:
 The following message is the second in a series of three, intended to
 show why bottom-posting (where a reply is completely separate from the
 original message) is bad.  See the first message (Message ID
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]) for a version that I
 consider understandable.

You might also like to count the length of the three messages.  The
one with the interleaved answers is the shortest.  This is because I
trimmed unnecessary text.

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Re: Top posting

2004-03-21 Thread uidzero

Bottom posting, where you leave the entire previous message, is only
marginally better than top posting.
If the text is important, you should be reading it.  If it isn't, the
sender shouldn't have included it.
On the contrary, it shows you what the discussion is about.  In this
example, I'm answering your points one by one.  I'll repeat the whole
thing with top posting.  Tell me if it's easier to read.
Agreed, mixing styles is the worst of the lot.  That's a very good
reason to insist on one style.
What's wrong with the convention we have?  I'll answer this message a
third time in the style you propose.  Tell me if it's easier to read.
 

Greg,

This one just gets too long after a thread of 5 or more. I can relate to 
the others but, I just don't read any of the thread to start with if the 
subject or the original post doesn't concern me. :) That's just me though.

Michael

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Re: Top posting

2004-03-21 Thread uidzero
Lucas Holt wrote:

Aside from mailing lists, I tend to be a top poster.  I don't like 
when people leave the last 12 emails and then bottom post.. i have to  
scroll all day.  The other irritant is people who actually post in the 
middle of messages.  That breaks the FLOW as well.  After someone 
replies top or bottom its VERY hard to read.

How about a new convention.  Delete everything but the last reply in 
the thread when you send to the list and say bottom post.  I can live 
with that as a top poster.  If I don't have to scroll all day to 
bottom post, its not a big deal.

The bottom line is that people reply.  This list is here to help users 
with FreeBSD.  I'd take an answer to my questions in any format!

I'm the same way. I take out everything but the last post. (including 
any .sigs) As for reading them any other way, I like them like I'm doing 
now or sectioned off to answer the questions or what not as they come down.

eg...

Original E-mail:  Question: Is this proper?

Next e-mail: Answer: Sure, IMHO

Original E-mail:  Question: Are you sure?

Next e-mail: Answer:  of course.

Otherwise, hey everyone. I'm Michael and I'm new to the list. Been using 
Linux si
nce 98 and for the past 5 days, I've done nothing but FreeBSD.

bigbsd~ uname -a
FreeBSD bigbsd.one-arm.com 4.9-STABLE FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE #0: Sat Mar 20 
15:14:02 CST
2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FW-BSD  i386
bigbsd~ df -h
FilesystemSize   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/da0s1a   126M59M57M51%/
/dev/da0s1f   252M  10.0K   232M 0%/tmp
/dev/da0s1g15G   9.6G   4.4G68%/usr
/dev/da0s1e   252M34M   198M15%/var
procfs4.0K   4.0K 0B   100%/proc
/dev/ad4s1 56G   690M51G 1%/mnt/storage
bigbsd~

I'm not quite brave enough to go to 5.2.1. I must say, in the last 5 
days, I've learned more about FreeBSD than I really learned about Linux 
since '98.

Thanks,

Michael

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Re: Top posting

2004-03-21 Thread Matt Coe, CCNA
uidzero wrote:

What's wrong with the convention we have?  I'll answer this message a
third time in the style you propose.  Tell me if it's easier to read.
This one just gets too long after a thread of 5 or more. I can relate 
to the others but, I just don't read any of the thread to start with 
if the subject or the original post doesn't concern me. :) That's just 
me though.
Not if the replier (is that even a word? It is now! Ha!) edits carefully 
for context. Leave out the bits of old messages that no longer relate to 
the discussion at hand and your replies should be nice and coherent. 
I've been practicing that for years.

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Re: X is broken....

2004-03-21 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:11:47 -0500
Ralph M. Los [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
   Something happened, most likely a weird error on my part, but
 when I booted up and hit my usual startx I got a bad command
 error. So I went into the ports directory and installed X, which is
 weird because it didn't complain about being installed already?
   Now I get this:
 
 Fatal server error:
 Could not open default font 'fixed'

This means you do not have that font install, most likely.

One of these should take car of it... forget which...
XFree86-4-font100dpi XFree86-4-fontCyrillic 
XFree86-4-fontEncodings XFree86-4-font75dpi
XFree86-4-fontDefaultBitmaps XFree86-4-fontScalable
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Best filesysyem for FreeBSD Linux shared partition

2004-03-21 Thread Ron Joordens
Hello Everyone,

I am multibooting FreeBSD with a few Linux distributions such as Mandrake,
Gentoo, Slackware, Red Hat. (I'll reduce that list to a couple of favourites
eventually). 

I have set up a primary partition with ext2 filesystem to act as a single
data partition accessable from all OSs. That seemed to be fine until
recently when I ran out of room on my FreeBSD /usr directory and moved my
/usr/ports/distfiles directory to the shared ext2fs partition. At first
there seemed to be no problems but when I tried to upgrade KDE and XFree86
using portupgrade the error messages began.

XFree86 always encountered errors when checking the checksums of the source
tarballs. It would say at first that the checksums were ok but then
immediately after crash sying that there were crc errors.

KDE was more serious. It would almost immediately crash with a Fatal Trap 12
error and reboot.

After finding nothing on the on the forums  I finally moved the distfiles to
a new drive which I formatted with the FreeBSD ufs filesystem. VOILA!! No
more problems.

So it seems that FreeBSD support for ext2fs is at fault.

So what is the best filesystem to use for a shared partition? For example,
does FreeBSD provide better support for ext3fs or resierfs? Or does Linux
provide better support for ufs?

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance,

Ron
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RE: Top posting

2004-03-21 Thread JJB
So unix mail clients bottom post  by design and MS/outlook tops
posts by design.
So is there some MS/Outlook config option to change it to bottom
post?
DO Unix mail clients have some option to config them to top post?

SO here we are right back at the starting point.
The 2 different groups have to just learn to deal with the list
being
populated with both top and bottom posting intermingled throughout
the thread.

No amount of complaining are going to change these  facts, so suck
it up, and move on.

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RE: Top posting

2004-03-21 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
 ... both top and bottom ...

All this talk of top and bottom is making me blush and breathe heavy,
LOL (j/k). :-)

Perhaps this dead horse has been sufficiently beaten, that we can let it
Rest In Peace, and move on? :-)

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Re: Top posting

2004-03-21 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
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Long/short syndrome.

On Sunday, 21 March 2004 at 20:09:17 -0500, JJB wrote:
 So unix mail clients bottom post  by design and MS/outlook tops
 posts by design.

No, that's not a question of design: it's the way you use them.

 So is there some MS/Outlook config option to change it to bottom
 post?

Well, it would be nice to have it to interface to an editor.  That
seems not to be possible, which completely baffles me.

 DO Unix mail clients have some option to config them to top post?

No.

 SO here we are right back at the starting point.  The 2 different
 groups have to just learn to deal with the list being populated with
 both top and bottom posting intermingled throughout the thread.

In fact, you're bringing up another point.  Microsoft MUAs appear to
be so difficult to use that many people take the path of least
resistance, leaving a trail of mutilation at the end of the message.

 No amount of complaining are going to change these facts, so suck it
 up, and move on.

They're not facts.  No amount of claiming will make them facts.

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Re: dhcp problem, dont know what to do anymore

2004-03-21 Thread Ryan Merrick
Julio Maciel wrote:
there is a very big txt log i made explaining all



well
I just installed freeBSD on my home, (5.2.1), and everything goes ok, BUT, i cant get 
dhcp, working...
on sysinstall, if I try to make my dhcp to be discovered, it freezes up, so i skiped 
this part
and then
after installing
everytime i try to run dhclient i get this: (i use cable modem):
DHCPDISCOVER on rl0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5
DHCPOFFER from 200.167.40.1
DHCPREQUEST on rl0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
DHCPREQUEST on rl0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
DHCPDISCOVER on rl0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4
DHCPOFFER from 200.167.40.1
DHCPREQUEST on rl0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
DHCPREQUEST on rl0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
and after this, it just goes on a infinite loop
i tried tcpdump to help me, but i just understand a line of tcpdump... here is what is 
says:
any idea of how can i solve this???

Hi,

What IP address are you getting ?  #ifconfig -a

What is in your #/etc/dhclient.conf ?

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Re: Top posting

2004-03-21 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 03/21/04 08:17 PM, Shaun T. Erickson sat at the `puter and typed:
  ... both top and bottom ...
 
 All this talk of top and bottom is making me blush and breathe heavy,
 LOL (j/k). :-)

ROFL.  Thank you dearly.  That one comment has just made this whole
thread worthwhile!

 Perhaps this dead horse has been sufficiently beaten, that we can let it
 Rest In Peace, and move on? :-)

I doubt it.  This thread will be going long after this horse is no
longer recognizeable as anything but a puddle of primordial ooze.

L
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amavisd-new errors after portupgrade

2004-03-21 Thread albi


here's the error with the upgraded amavisd-new :

/usr/local/etc/rc.d/amavisd.sh restart
Stopping amavisd.
Waiting for PIDS: 976.
Starting amavisd.
ERROR: MISSING REQUIRED BASIC MODULES:
  Carp::Heavy
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/sbin/amavisd line 124.

after using Google for a while i couldn't find which port Carp::Heavy
comes from (or should come from)

copying back the previous /usr/local/sbin/amavisd over the new one,
makes it work OK

any ideas how to resolve this (that is, make the newer amavisd-new work)

tia!

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RE: Top posting

2004-03-21 Thread Gary
Hi JJB,

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So is there some MS/Outlook config option to change it to bottom
post?
Outlook fix http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/

OE fix http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/

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Re: Top posting

2004-03-21 Thread Scott Ballantyne
Top posting is irritating. So is scrolling through 20Mb of unedited text
to get to a one line response, which is often Yes, I've seen this too.
Spelling flames are irritating too. And the most irritating of all is
reading messages on a mailing list which deal only with issues of
netiquette.

What ever happened to the very sound advice that used to be preached
that such messages should be sent privately, to the perpetrator of the
breach, rather than broadcast to the many readers of freebsd-questions
who are more interested in getting freebsd answers than a lesson in
netiquette?

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Re: Top posting

2004-03-21 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Sunday, 21 March 2004 at 20:44:12 -0500, Scott Ballantyne wrote:
 Top posting is irritating. So is scrolling through 20Mb of unedited text
 to get to a one line response, which is often Yes, I've seen this too.
 Spelling flames are irritating too. And the most irritating of all is
 reading messages on a mailing list which deal only with issues of
 netiquette.

Nothing makes you read them.

 What ever happened to the very sound advice that used to be preached
 that such messages should be sent privately, to the perpetrator of
 the breach, rather than broadcast to the many readers of
 freebsd-questions who are more interested in getting freebsd answers
 than a lesson in netiquette?

It's still there.  But obviously this matter is of interest to enough
people that it's worth discussing on the list, especially since it
influences the likely success of a post to the list.  If it doesn't
interest you, do what you do with other messages that don't interest
you: delete them.

Greg
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Re: Top posting

2004-03-21 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2004-03-22T01:23:45Z, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 DO Unix mail clients have some option to config them to top post?

 No.

Kmail, for one, offers that as an option.  I started doing that at work
after my boss explained that interleaved-trimmed posting is difficult to
read.

I think the main difference between top- and interleaved-posting is one of
latency.  In an office environment, when you're replying within 2 minutes of
receipt of a typically short message, top posting is reasonable.  On Usenet
and mailing lists, where you see large, complex questions that get discussed
over the span of days and weeks, interleaved posting is the only format that
remotely makes sense.
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Re: Top posting

2004-03-21 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Sunday, 21 March 2004 at 20:27:57 -0600, Kirk Strauser wrote:
 At 2004-03-22T01:23:45Z, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 DO Unix mail clients have some option to config them to top post?

 No.

 Kmail, for one, offers that as an option.  I started doing that at work
 after my boss explained that interleaved-trimmed posting is difficult to
 read.

I'm missing something here.  Top posting, interleaved posting and
bottom posting are not a function of the MUA, they're a function of
the human making a conscious decision how to write a message.  What do
*you* mean?

 I think the main difference between top- and interleaved-posting is
 one of latency.  In an office environment, when you're replying
 within 2 minutes of receipt of a typically short message, top
 posting is reasonable.

Well, I'll concede that it could barely be acceptable under such
conditions.

 On Usenet and mailing lists, where you see large, complex questions
 that get discussed over the span of days and weeks, interleaved
 posting is the only format that remotely makes sense.

Sure.  Now how do you know in advance to which category each message
belongs?  Where do you draw the line?  And what's the advantage of top
posting?

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Intel chipset to work

2004-03-21 Thread IT2 Wishon, Corey
Sir or Ma'am

Sorry to bother you. I am trying to get a intel chipset to work on my
version of freebds. I
am currently unable to run free86 GUI interface. The drivers will not
install referring to a 1240: syntax error: Bad fd number
and when I try to run startx I get fatal server error: no screens found.
Is there any suggestion to help my situation. Any assistance
will be greatly appreciated.

v/r

IT2 Corey Wishon
Systems Administrator
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Re: dhcp problem, dont know what to do anymore

2004-03-21 Thread Ryan Merrick
Julio Maciel wrote:
dhclient.conf  is blank
all things are commented... ive tried changing some things using request
but same thing happens
my ip address before this is set to blank
because, on the install i skipped the configuring networking devices
- Original Message - 
From: Ryan Merrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Julio Maciel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: dhcp problem, dont know what to do anymore



Julio Maciel wrote:

there is a very big txt log i made explaining all



well
I just installed freeBSD on my home, (5.2.1), and everything goes ok,
BUT, i cant get dhcp, working...

on sysinstall, if I try to make my dhcp to be discovered, it freezes up,
so i skiped this part

and then
after installing
everytime i try to run dhclient i get this: (i use cable modem):
DHCPDISCOVER on rl0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5
DHCPOFFER from 200.167.40.1
DHCPREQUEST on rl0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
DHCPREQUEST on rl0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
DHCPDISCOVER on rl0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4
DHCPOFFER from 200.167.40.1
DHCPREQUEST on rl0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
DHCPREQUEST on rl0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
and after this, it just goes on a infinite loop
i tried tcpdump to help me, but i just understand a line of tcpdump...
here is what is says:

any idea of how can i solve this???

Hi,

What IP address are you getting ?  #ifconfig -a

What is in your #/etc/dhclient.conf ?

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Hi

You need to send your cable company supplied hostname and use a modified 
 version of the example in #man dhclient.conf

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Re: Intel chipset to work

2004-03-21 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
IT2 Wishon, Corey wrote:

Sir or Ma'am

 

I guess I'm a sir, but we're all just FreeBSD
users around here.  Greetings to you wherever
the Vella Gulf is ATM, and thanks to all of you 
Sorry to bother you. I am trying to get a intel chipset to work on my
version of freebds. 
 

No trouble

I am currently unable to run free86 GUI interface. The drivers will not
install referring to a 1240: syntax error: Bad fd number
and when I try to run startx I get fatal server error: no screens found.
Is there any suggestion to help my situation. Any assistance
will be greatly appreciated.
IT2 Corey Wishon
 

Systems Administrator
USS Vella Gulf (CG-72)
USN/AD
 

Can't say as I can help with the Bad fd number.
It's obviously an error in line 1240 of some file or
other ... now what file, I don't know, and whether
the message is really the indicator of the problem
I can't say.
You didn't mention what chipset ... I assume the
Intel i810?  There's a subsection of the Handbook
(5.4.3.1) dealing with that specific chipset, I suppose
due to the fact is was very popular for a whileif
that's your chipset, I'd definitely look it up.  The
handbook is available at www.freebsd.org/handbook,
or via ftp 
No screens found means that the X server hasn't
found any viable entries in the Screen section of
the XFree86Config file (which is probably
/etc/X11/XF86Config) ... I've attached mine; the
Screen section is about 2/3 of the way down
HTH,

Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.
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Please, can you help

2004-03-21 Thread Jason
Hello,
 
I have a problem that I was wondering if you could help me out, I downloaded the 
freebsd from your site to install it on my sec hdd (hard drive), I'm able to boot up 
from the cd-rom, so I did so.
Long story short, I have my cd-rom on my secondary ide controller set to master with 
no slaves, My hdds are on the primary set to master and slave, will the problem is 
that when it come to install the rest of the bsd i try to install from the cd/dvd and 
it tells me that no CDROM is found and i have a ATAPI CDROM set to master on my 
sec ide controller with no slave divice, please can you help, I've looked on the site 
but nothing there that could help me that i saw.
thank you
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Please, can you help

2004-03-21 Thread Jason
Hello,
 
I have a problem that I was wondering if you could help me out, I downloaded the 
freebsd from your site to install it on my sec hdd (hard drive), I'm able to boot up 
from the cd-rom, so I did so.
Long story short, I have my cd-rom on my secondary ide controller set to master with 
no slaves, My hdds are on the primary set to master and slave, will the problem is 
that when it come to install the rest of the bsd i try to install from the cd/dvd and 
it tells me that no CDROM is found and i have a ATAPI CDROM set to master on my 
sec ide controller with no slave divice, please can you help, I've looked on the site 
but nothing there that could help me that i saw.
thank you
jason  
 
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Re: amavisd-new errors after portupgrade

2004-03-21 Thread Jeff Maxwell
The same thing just happened to me.

amavisd-new, the newest version will not run with perl 5.005 that comes 
with 4.9. You have upgrade to perl 5.6 or better. I upgrading to 5.8 
with the port /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/

Follow the directions to change you default perl installation after you 
install the port. You then have to install all the missing modules.

It took me a couple of hours to get it back up, but it works great now.



On Mar 21, 2004, at 8:26 PM, albi wrote:



here's the error with the upgraded amavisd-new :

/usr/local/etc/rc.d/amavisd.sh restart
Stopping amavisd.
Waiting for PIDS: 976.
Starting amavisd.
ERROR: MISSING REQUIRED BASIC MODULES:
  Carp::Heavy
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/sbin/amavisd line 124.
after using Google for a while i couldn't find which port Carp::Heavy
comes from (or should come from)
copying back the previous /usr/local/sbin/amavisd over the new one,
makes it work OK
any ideas how to resolve this (that is, make the newer amavisd-new 
work)

tia!

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[no subject]

2004-03-21 Thread Tadimeti Keshav
 
 

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-- K E S H A V  T A D I M E T I --
BeOS Air
You have to pay for the tickets, but they're half the price of Windows Air, and if you 
are an aircraft mechanic you can probably ride for free. It only takes 15 minutes to 
get to the airport and you are cheuferred there in a limozine. BeOS Air only has 
limited types of planes that only hold new luggage. All planes are single seaters and 
the model names all start with an F (F-14, F-15, F-16, F-18, etc.). The plane will 
fly you to your destination on autopilot in half the time of other Airways or you can 
fly the plane yourself. There are limited destinations, but they are only places you'd 
want to go to anyway. You tell all your friends how great BeOS Air is and all they say 
is What do you mean I can't bring all my old baggage with me?





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can I read FreeBSD partitions from another hard drive?

2004-03-21 Thread Tadimeti Keshav
Hi, I installed FreeBSD on a hard disk with 2 slices.
One is an NTFS(slice 1) and the other for FreeBSD
(slice 2). Is it possible to view FreeBSD partitions
within the second slice from another FreeBSD
installation that I have? How can I do this, as I
believe FreeBSD can only read slices but not
partitions within a slice.

Both are IDE hard disks for x86 arch,

thanks in advance
Tk





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make options

2004-03-21 Thread Tadimeti Keshav
hi, 

I am trying to install some ports. But I do not know
the various options we can specify during make such as
WITH_GUI=yes

How can I know them for a given port?

thanks in advance





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mplayer questions

2004-03-21 Thread Tadimeti Keshav
Hi, 

I tried to install mplayer using ports. This was
successfully installed. However, I want to know if
mplayer is a command line video player? Is there a GUI
frontend to it? WHich one? Does it get installed along
with mplayer?

thanks
Tk





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