Headless Install

[Maksym Marchenko]

Hi!
I try to install 4.10 on headless PC(without a monitor and vga output)
So I've used my laptop as a serial console (via null modem cable).
All was wonderfull, but after end of install procedure und reboot,
I see with this terminal (cu -l /dev/cuaa0) all and the date for
the login line. But not the login prompt. So I can't to log in and
do anything.
What have I to do, to log in this headless PC?
Another terminal may be?
Thanks in advance.
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irc resuming through natd

[cedrick.gaillard]

hi,
 
it's impossible for me to do irc resuming through may freebsd gateway.
i was on freebsd 4.7 and i am now on freebsd 5.2.1 current and the
problem persists on both versions.
 
someone have a good way to do irc resuming?
 
here is my natd.conf :
log yes
log_denied yes
use_sockets yes
same_ports yes
interface xl0
punch_fw 1:20
log_ipfw_denied yes
 
i use ipfw
if my other computer is connected directly on internet, it have no
problem.
 
Thanks
cédrick

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Re: receiving your address on my TV

[Jay Moore]

Sylvia bowman wrote:

> I am receiving your email address on my television screen.  It happens
> late on Saturday evenings.  Can you address this situation, please. 

> Sylvia Bowman

Come on now, Sylvia - I think you know how this situation should be addressed.

Jay
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4.10 RELEASE XFree86-4-library / fontconfig install problem

[freebsd]

4.10 release, installing from CDs.
I initially tried an upgrade from 4.5, which failed (same problem
with XFree86 detailed below), so I did an install over the top
without X.
I'm now trying to install XFree86 from the ports collection.
When I attempt to make XFree86-4-libraries,
it fails building fontconfig:
fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1:" /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: 
/usr/X11R6/lib/libfontconfig.so.1: Undefined symbol "FT_Get_BDF_Property"
*** Error code 1

Any hints as to what's going on and how to fix / get around it?
I've done a
  portupgrade -fFRNuv x11-fonts/fontconfig
  make
  make install (fails)
The error above occurs on the make install
The dependencies I have installed are:
  expat-1.95.7
  freetype2-2.1.7_3
  gettext-0.13.1_1
  gmake-3.80_2
  libtool-1.3.4_2
  libtool-1.3.5_2
  pkgconfig-0.15.0_1
Thanks for any insights.
Gary
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Re: Problem installing cvsup on 4.10

[Peter Ryan]

> On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 11:51:30 +0800 (SGT)
> Peter Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I am trying to get CVsup running on 4.10.
> > 
> > The handbook indicates it is easier to 
> > install the package, so I went to the
> > package collection and installed
> > cvsup-16.1h
> > 
> > The package installation seemed to indicate
> > the target directory was /usr/ports/net/cvsup.
> > (this was a message asking me to confirm the
> > installation from /stand/sysinstall)
> > 
> > When I had finished the installation, I could
> > not run cvsup - command not found.
> 
> when you finish an installation, you'll very often
> have to issue the 'rehash' command, which 
> tells your csh to reread the $PATH which is
> set in your .cshrc
> 
> if you didn't do this, you'll probably see the 
> command 'magically' appear after your next boot 
> or if you open another term and su to root.

Thanks for waving the wand... it did magically appear!!

Regards
Peter
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Re: Way OT programming question

[Jonathan Chen]

On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 06:29:58PM -0500, Josh Paetzel wrote:

[...]
> #ifndef lint
> #if 0
> static char sccsid[] = "@(#)cat.c   8.2 (Berkeley) 4/27/95";
> #endif
> #endif /* not lint */
> #include 
> __FBSDID("$FreeBSD: src/bin/cat/cat.c,v 1.29 2003/04/30 17:40:28 
> obrien Exp $");
> 
> 1) Isn't 'if 0' always negative?

Yes. The "#if 0" is a common way of blocking out code that you
don't/can't want to remove.
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Can't file transfer via Bluetooth in FreeBSD

[Edwin D. Vinas]

Hi,

I recently shifted to FreeBSD-5.2 from Windows XP because I know there is a 
bluetooh support in these new 5.x versions. I was so glad that FreeBSD have 
improved a lot! However, I have a problem with installing or making the 
bluetooth file transfer work. Here are the details below:

I followed the documentation by Pav on http://www.oook.cz/bsd/bluetooth.html. 
I was able to pair my Nokia 3660 with my FreeBSD-5.2 which has an MSI 
bluetooth dongle. I was able to discover other devices, and execute other 
built-in commands such as hccontrol, l2ping, l2control, sdptool  etc. But, I 
noticed that the the basic file transfer called OBEX was not yet incorporated 
in the FreeBSD-5.2 and that I have to install an openobex or something. I 
have succesfully installed openobex from sourceforge, but it doesn't have the 
"obexapp" command. The i tried installing the "obexapp" from sourceforge too. 
The problem is that I cant install it.

tar -zxvf obexapp-1.2.tar.gz
(extracts two directories openobex-1.0.1/ and obexapp/)

cd openobex-1.0.1
./configure
/usr/local/bin/make
/usr/local/bin/make install

cd obexapp
(no ./configure and NO README!!!)
so i tried, "make" or "/usr/local/bin/make"
when i tried "make":
banao# make
Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/home/misoy/EDV/
Bluetooth/src/obexapp
cc -I/usr/local/include  -I/usr/local/include/openobex -g -Wsystem-headers 
-Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized  -c main.c
cc -I/usr/local/include  -I/usr/local/include/openobex -g -Wsystem-headers 
-Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized  -c client.c
cc -I/usr/local/include  -I/usr/local/include/openobex -g -Wsystem-headers 
-Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized  -c event.c
cc -I/usr/local/include  -I/usr/local/include/openobex -g -Wsystem-headers 
-Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized  -c sdp.c
cc -I/usr/local/include  -I/usr/local/include/openobex -g -Wsystem-headers 
-Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized  -c server.c
server.c: In function `obexapp_server':
server.c:118: error: too many arguments to function `sdp_open_local'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/home/misoy/EDV/Bluetooth/src/obexapp.

using /usr/local/bin/make:
banao# /usr/local/bin/make
Makefile:23: *** missing separator.  Stop.

-Edwin

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Re: Problem installing cvsup on 4.10

[epilogue]

On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 11:51:30 +0800 (SGT)
Peter Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am trying to get CVsup running on 4.10.
> 
> The handbook indicates it is easier to 
> install the package, so I went to the
> package collection and installed
> cvsup-16.1h
> 
> The package installation seemed to indicate
> the target directory was /usr/ports/net/cvsup.
> (this was a message asking me to confirm the
> installation from /stand/sysinstall)
> 
> When I had finished the installation, I could
> not run cvsup - command not found.

when you finish an installation, you'll very often have to issue the
'rehash' command, which tells your csh to reread the $PATH which is set in
your .cshrc

if you didn't do this, you'll probably see the command 'magically' appear
after your next boot or if you open another term and su to root.

you do have to run this command as root, btw.;)

> So I thought maybe I had to install from the
> ports collection, so I cd'd to /usr/ports/net/cvsup
> and ran Make.  That seemed to go OK.
> 
> Then I did a Make Install.  It stops with error
> code 1. It says cvsup-16.1h already installed.

try 'pkg_info | grep -i cvsup' to see if you do have the program installed.

and, as root, 'echo $PATH'


> I am not sure what I am doing wrong in all this.
> Can anyone spot what it is ?

my first guess would be the 'rehash'.  further guesses would depend upon
what you get from pkg_info and $PATH.

hth,
epi

> (I realise that I shouldnt normally be installing
> from a port just after a package install, but that
> was just because I was out of ideas)
> 
> Thanks
> Peter
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Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installer package like this ???

[epilogue]

 
> & it still won't start.
> As I can't get it to start, I just delete this line using VI(I am getting
> better :) 

vi isn't the easiest program to learn and master, but it is available on
pretty much every *nix system in the universe, so time invested is
generally well rewarded not only by gains in productivity, but also by
portability of your skills.

this said, and because i'm convinced that you've given the handbook only
the most cursory of glances (such a good document - shame on you), i
thought it would be worth pointing out that freebsd comes with another
editor in it's base system - ee.  if you're only going to be doing minor
edits here and there, you might consider checking it out.  its learning
curve is not nearly 1/10th as steep as vi's, but then, neither is it nearly
1/10th as powerful.

2 cents.  epi out.

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Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installerpackage like this ???

[Remko Lodder]

DK wrote:
Hi Giorgos,
I don't feel safe yet connecting my unsecured box to the net with the 5-10 hits
a minute my W2000 box recieves on my broadband link. I have read the security
section of the manual & would like to get basics working before I rebuild the
kernel to install the firewall(which doesn't seem that easy but I will give it
try)

Hey DK,
FreeBSD is much more secure then a clean windows system, though i would 
do the same (since i am very security minded). You can however let your 
windows2k box route the FreeBSD machine to the internet so that it can 
obtain the latest revisions of the ports and sourcetree, as described in 
the handbook.

 

This is probably not why xfce doesn't work though.  The
sysutils/xfce4-utils package installs a command called "startxfce4".
AFAIK, this is the program that fires up xfce.  When you install that
package (as part of the dependency list of xfce4) you should be able to
use xfce4 as your desktop by editing your ~/.xinitrc file and making
sure that the last command it runs is:
	exec startxfce4
 
my .xinitrc file contains only the one line:
--
exec startxfce4
--

& it still won't start.
As I can't get it to start, I just delete this line using VI(I am getting
better :) & replace it with "exec wmaker" which starts OK.
Did you try to execute startxfe4 manually? Is it actually there? isn't 
it a glitch in a old version (Which you seem to refuse to update since 
it's not secure) ? check it out !



3)I am trying to install Apachetoolbox-1.5.70(it may well be a
BigApache for BSD :)) - but I get the errors "Command not found"
trying to run it:
This is not the proper way to install ports or packages in FreeBSD.
Please, refer to the Handbook section on ports and packages for details.

[snip irrelevant attempts to force bash to do something mysterious]

Apachetoolbox is not an official freeBSD port/package(www.apachetoolbox.com).
Its a script/ports pack that you run which creates all the scripts needed to
install a large array of Apache & other www stuff(eg. MySQL etc).
It's no ports pack, it's a set of scripts, which is not supported by 
FreeBSD, so when there is an leak,  you should find out yourself and 
update it (instead of enable-ing one tiny little feature of the weekly 
scripts (400.status-pkg) which gives you an overview of outdated 
packages) besides that you should install portaudit which daily checks 
whether your applications are vulnerable to known issues.
But that would be your own free choice.

The install file that comes with it says to install it by running install.sh.
It says(further down) that "BSD users, the script interpreter of install.sh is 
BASH (/bin/bash). - Thats why I started BASH - Do you know what the "bad
interpreter" error means ???
Yes that probably means "I cannot find the /bin/bash shell, so i cannot 
handle your request", why? bash is not installed in /bin/bash but in 
/usr/local/bin/bash, it was displayed when you installed it, you can see 
it in your password entry, and it is listed in /etc/shells...

---
bash-2.05# ./install
bash: ./install: No such file or directory
bash-2.05# ./install.sh
bash: ./install.sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
bash-2.05# ./install   
bash: ./install: No such file or directory
--


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Re: The FreeBSD Diary: 2004-07-11 - 2004-07-31

[Reza Muhammad]

Dear List..

I believe that FreesBie-1.0.0 have 5.2.1 core on it.
but it couldnt detect IBm ThinkPad T 41 automatically
(IntelPro). 
how to make FreesBie-1.0.0 detect my NIC. please help
me

regards
reza
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> The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of
> practical 
> examples and how-to guides.  This message is posted
> weekly
> to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the aim of
> letting people
> know what's available on the website.  Before you
> post a question
> here it might be a good idea to first search the
> mailing list 
> archives
>

> 
> and/or The FreeBSD Diary
> . 
> 
> These are the articles posted during this period:
> 
> 16-Jul : 5.* on an IBM ThinkPad T41
>  Fun and games getting things installed 
>  http://freebsddiary.org/ibm-thinkpad-t41.php?2
> 
> 
> -- 
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Problem installing cvsup on 4.10

[Peter Ryan]

I am trying to get CVsup running on 4.10.

The handbook indicates it is easier to 
install the package, so I went to the
package collection and installed
cvsup-16.1h

The package installation seemed to indicate
the target directory was /usr/ports/net/cvsup.
(this was a message asking me to confirm the
installation from /stand/sysinstall)

When I had finished the installation, I could
not run cvsup - command not found.

So I thought maybe I had to install from the
ports collection, so I cd'd to /usr/ports/net/cvsup
and ran Make.  That seemed to go OK.

Then I did a Make Install.  It stops with error
code 1. It says cvsup-16.1h already installed.

I am not sure what I am doing wrong in all this.
Can anyone spot what it is ?

(I realise that I shouldnt normally be installing
from a port just after a package install, but that
was just because I was out of ideas)

Thanks
Peter
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Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installer package like this ???

[DK]

--- Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You have lots of old (out of date) packages installed.  Have you gotten
> your FreeBSD workstation to connect to the network yet?  If yes, you can
> install `portupgrade' and use it to update all your packages/ports to
> their latest versions.

Hi Giorgos,

I don't feel safe yet connecting my unsecured box to the net with the 5-10 hits
a minute my W2000 box recieves on my broadband link. I have read the security
section of the manual & would like to get basics working before I rebuild the
kernel to install the firewall(which doesn't seem that easy but I will give it
try)

 
> This is probably not why xfce doesn't work though.  The
> sysutils/xfce4-utils package installs a command called "startxfce4".
> AFAIK, this is the program that fires up xfce.  When you install that
> package (as part of the dependency list of xfce4) you should be able to
> use xfce4 as your desktop by editing your ~/.xinitrc file and making
> sure that the last command it runs is:
> 
>   exec startxfce4
 
my .xinitrc file contains only the one line:
--
exec startxfce4
--

& it still won't start.
As I can't get it to start, I just delete this line using VI(I am getting
better :) & replace it with "exec wmaker" which starts OK.



> > 3)I am trying to install Apachetoolbox-1.5.70(it may well be a
> > BigApache for BSD :)) - but I get the errors "Command not found"
> > trying to run it:
> This is not the proper way to install ports or packages in FreeBSD.
> Please, refer to the Handbook section on ports and packages for details.
> 
> > [snip irrelevant attempts to force bash to do something mysterious]


Apachetoolbox is not an official freeBSD port/package(www.apachetoolbox.com).
Its a script/ports pack that you run which creates all the scripts needed to
install a large array of Apache & other www stuff(eg. MySQL etc).

The install file that comes with it says to install it by running install.sh.

It says(further down) that "BSD users, the script interpreter of install.sh is 
BASH (/bin/bash). - Thats why I started BASH - Do you know what the "bad
interpreter" error means ???

---
bash-2.05# ./install
bash: ./install: No such file or directory
bash-2.05# ./install.sh
bash: ./install.sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
bash-2.05# ./install   
bash: ./install: No such file or directory
--


Apachetoolbox Install File(install.txt)
--
Install
=-=-=-=

1) as root run ./install.sh
 1a) if you're running the program for the 2nd time and don't want
to change your options use the -f or --fast switch when running
install.sh .
2) select what you want to compile into apache
 2a) type "apache" to get to the apache menu as shown in the menu
 2b) type "php" to get to the php menu as shown in the menu
 2c) type "page2" to get to the 2nd modules menu as shown in the menu
3) continue and let it compile by typing 'go'
 3a) if the source is missing it will try to download it
4) cd into the apache_1.3.* source directory
5) run "make" manually to compile apache, watch for errors
6) if everything went ok run "make install" to install/upgrade

**
Solaris/BSD users, the script interpreter of install.sh is BASH (/bin/bash).
Bash should be used, YMMV if you change it to /bin/sh.  The next major release
(2.x) will be in perl.  If your willing to help port it please get a hold of
me.
**
Frontpage 2002 Extentions require precompiled binaries.  So only linux,
freebsd, solaris (sparc and x86) are supported.  The binaries are about 10megs
compressed and only the linux tarball will be added to the script+sources
tarball. http://www.apachetoolbox.com for support and updates.
--



Kind Regards,

DK



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Re: allowing cdrecord non-root

[Oliver Fuchs]

On Sat, 31 Jul 2004, Wojciech Puchar wrote:

> how can i allow given group to be able to write cd's?
> 
> in NetBSD doing (assuming group name cdrw)
> 
> chgrp cdrw /dev/rcd0* /dev/cd0*
> chmod 660 /dev/rcd0* /dev/cd0*
> 
> 
> in FreeBSD doing this for /dev/cd0 and /dev/acd0 doesn't work.
> 
> tried to do the same with /dev/xpt0 - doesn't work too.
> 
> is it possible at all?
> ___

Hi,

from man cdrecord you will get:

[...]

   If you don't want to  allow  users  to  become  root  on  your  system,
   cdrecord  may safely be installed suid root. This allows all users or a
   group of users with no root privileges to use  cdrecord.   Cdrecord  in
   this  case  checks,  if  the real user would have been able to read the
   specified files.  To give all user access to use cdrecord, enter:

chown root /usr/local/bin/cdrecord
chmod 4711 /usr/local/bin/cdrecord

   To give a restricted group of users access to cdrecord enter:

chown root /usr/local/bin/cdrecord
chgrp cdburners /usr/local/bin/cdrecord
chmod 4710 /usr/local/bin/cdrecord

   and add a group cdburners on your system.

   Never give write permissions  for  non  root  users  to  the  /dev/scg?
   devices  unless  you  would allow anybody to read/write/format all your
   disks.
[...]

Oliver
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Re: Screen Res 1024x768

[Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.]

Oryx wrote:
Hey guys,
I'm having a slight problem with FreeBSD... basically I want my screen
resolution at 1024x768 and not 800x600 i have a standard internal
graphics card (came with my pc and its by intel)... I had it working
before, but i just simply can't remember how I done it... If you could
help me i'd be very greatfull...
Cheers
 

If it's the Intel i810 chipset, there was a subsection in the
handbook's X windows chapter, IIRC.
What your XF86Config look like?
Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.
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Re: upgrading gcc-2.95 to gcc-3.3

[Dan Nelson]

In the last episode (Aug 02), SP Network Solutions said:
> Yes, im aware that it installed in it own folder..
> /usr/local/bin/gcc33
> 
> I've already installed it in my system and tried this;
> /usr/local/bin/gcc33 -v
> 
> it show this:
> gcc version 3.3.4 20040505 (prerelease) [FreeBSD]
> 
> Is this the right one?

Yes.  You can also install the gcc34 port to get a snapshot of what will
become gcc-3.4.2.
 
> and regards to the CC=gcc33 and CXX=g++33
> Can you please give me the command to do this
> If possible, the basic steps to get it done...

If using a Bourne-type shell:

export CC=gcc33
export CXX=g++33

If using a csh-type shell (csh and tcsh are the only ones I know of):

setenv CC gcc33
setenv CXX g++33
 
> my only intention is to get the machine runs with gcc33 and not the
> gcc2.95

With those variables set, anything you compile will be built with gcc33. 
Make sure you unset them before building the kernel or base system.  They
require the system's original gcc.

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FreeBSD AMD64 motherboard compatibility

[Michael Pope]

   I'm designing a file server system and would like to use the AMD
   Athlon FX-53 processor as it will also run an accounting program to
   multiple users, but don't know which motherboard and chipset would be
   best. I've been looking at:
   Abit AV8
   Asus A8V Deluxe
   both are VIA chipsets, are these motherboards fully compaitible with
   FreeBSD?
   Which is the best chipset to go with nForce, VIA, SiS or something
   else?
   Which is the best motherboard for this processor and freeBSD around?
   Any suggestions would be welcomed.
   from
   Michael
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Re: Help Connecting NT 4.0 to Internet via LAN

[Bob Perry]

Bill Moran wrote:
Bob Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

Trying to reinstall Windows NT 4.0 and reconnect it to the internet via LAN
with FreeBSD 4.9 as the server.
I had previously attempted to repair a corrupted system file in my NT box
but was unsuccessful.  I ended up reinstalling back to the original Service
Pack 1.   My plan now is to upgrade the IE browser and OS on-line but I'm
having trouble getting the browser to work.
At this stage, the NT box can ping web sites successfully using
their IP address but not the URL name.
   

Sounds like your DNS is not set up on the NT box.  Set up your DNS on the
NT box, and all should be well.
 

I was able to make some adjustments in the NT box as recommended. 
Unfortunately, I made them without testing immediately afterward so
I'd rather not report them to the list at this time.

I do, however, have access to the internet now on the NT side.
Thanks for your help.
Bob Perry
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Re: Screen Res 1024x768

[Oryx]

Hey guys,

I'm having a slight problem with FreeBSD... basically I want my screen
resolution at 1024x768 and not 800x600 i have a standard internal
graphics card (came with my pc and its by intel)... I had it working
before, but i just simply can't remember how I done it... If you could
help me i'd be very greatfull...

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Re: [OT] 64-bit PCI in 32-bit slots??? crazy??

[Andrew Sinclair]

Bill Moran wrote:
I'm inheriting some hardware.
These boards have 64-bit PCI SATA cards jammed in 32-bit PCI slots.  Oddly
enough, the boxen boot and start Linux (which will be replaced with FreeBSD
when I'm done)
I guess my question is hardware-related.  I mean, I can't believe this
worked!  Has anyone else seen/done this?  Is this as crazy as it seems to
me?
 

Please check out this site:
http://www.pcisig.com/specifications/pcix_20/
As you will see, PCI-X is up to 533MHz bus speeds now and the standard 
is still backwards compatible with PCI.
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Re: Receiving your address on my tv

[Michael Hughes]

On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 16:37:43 -0700 (PDT)
stheg olloydson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> it was said:
> 
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] is a mailing list.  Please keep
> >the mailing list
> >CCed on all replies.
> >
> >sylvia bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for answering my email.  Believe me this is
> >not a joke.  It's
> >> driving me crazy.  My tv is hooked up to Cox Cable
> >in Las Vegas, NV.
> >> The channel I'm receiving the message on is CBS. 
> >The address looks
> >> something like this: 
> [n:][e:2000101][8A41]
> >
> >What makes you think this address has anything to do
> >with FreeBSD?
> >
> >> I've received other addressess also, but you are
> >the first ones kind
> >> enough to answer me.  It begins with a solid black 
> 
> 
> 
> >> start up again.  I've tried to tape it because
> >everybody else is asleep
> >> and no one believes me, but it won't tape.  When I
> >play the tape back I
> >> just get a blurry screen.
> 
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> What you have there is an ingress problem. The
> question is what's causing it. It may be due to signal
> leakage in the actual cable. If so, your neighbors
> should see the same thing at the same time you do. Ask
> them. Either way, Cox needs to test the coax from your
> set top box all the way to the optical node. Have
> someone come out with a strength meter. It may be a
> noisy tap, and they won't find that testing from the
> headend.
> The fact you can't tape it, though, is interesting and
> suggests that the signal isn't coming through the
> cable. Perhaps someone within wireless range is doing
> something that they ought to be doing better, and your
> tuner is picking it up. That would be an FCC problem.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Stheg
> 
> PS. BTW, why _do_ you think
> "[n:][e:2000101][8A41]" is related to
> FreeBSD?
> 
> 
> 
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Re: upgrading gcc-2.95 to gcc-3.3

[Bill Moran]

Dan Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In the last episode (Aug 02), SP Network Solutions said:
> > Currently my machine (FreeBSD 4.1) using gcc-2.95 which is running
> > perfectly. however, I need to upgrade it to gcc-3.3 which i've did via
> > /usr/ports/lang/gcc33
> > 
> > everything when smooth and installed.
> > 
> > but when I type gcc -v it still show gcc version 2.95 How do I get the new
> > gcc-3.3 to run, what do i need to do or any configuration line, comands
> > etc to make it work
> 
> gcc 3.3 installs itself as gcc33, so set CC=gcc33 and CXX=g++33 to use it.
> Note that all the gcc* ports do this, so you can install all of them on the
> same machine and pick which one to use whenever you want.

Don't forget TenDRA ... which is another compiler option!

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Re: upgrading gcc-2.95 to gcc-3.3

[Dan Nelson]

In the last episode (Aug 02), SP Network Solutions said:
> Currently my machine (FreeBSD 4.1) using gcc-2.95 which is running
> perfectly. however, I need to upgrade it to gcc-3.3 which i've did via
> /usr/ports/lang/gcc33
> 
> everything when smooth and installed.
> 
> but when I type gcc -v it still show gcc version 2.95 How do I get the new
> gcc-3.3 to run, what do i need to do or any configuration line, comands
> etc to make it work

gcc 3.3 installs itself as gcc33, so set CC=gcc33 and CXX=g++33 to use it.
Note that all the gcc* ports do this, so you can install all of them on the
same machine and pick which one to use whenever you want.

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Re: Way OT programming question

[Simon Barner]

Josh Paetzel wrote:
> I've been muddling through some of the source files for FreeBSD 
> 5.2.1-RELEASE, and I've noticed that a large number of .c files 
> in /usr/src have something similar to below in them:
> 
> #ifndef lint
> #if 0
> static char sccsid[] = "@(#)cat.c   8.2 (Berkeley) 4/27/95";
> #endif
> #endif /* not lint */
> #include 
> __FBSDID("$FreeBSD: src/bin/cat/cat.c,v 1.29 2003/04/30 17:40:28 
> obrien Exp $");
> 
> 1) Isn't 'if 0' always negative?

Yes, has the same effect as using comments. I don't know why #if 0 was
used here, but the line was probably kept in order to document the
(version) history of the file.

> 2) What is the __FBSDID line doing?

It has the same purpose as the static char sccsid[] line: Each and every
source file adds an id line to the resulting binary executable. Thus it
is possible to determine the exact version of file.

Example:

% ident /bin/ls

/bin/ls:
 $FreeBSD: src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crti.S,v 1.6 2002/05/15 04:19:49 obrien Exp $
 $FreeBSD: src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtn.S,v 1.5 2002/05/15 04:19:49 obrien Exp $
 $FreeBSD: src/lib/csu/common/crtbrand.c,v 1.4 2003/10/17 15:43:13 peter Exp $
 $FreeBSD: src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crt1.c,v 1.12 2003/01/26 23:14:47 markm Exp $
 $FreeBSD: src/bin/ls/cmp.c,v 1.12 2002/06/30 05:13:54 obrien Exp $
 $FreeBSD: src/bin/ls/ls.c,v 1.75 2003/12/01 19:10:29 obrien Exp $
 $FreeBSD: src/bin/ls/print.c,v 1.66 2003/10/16 07:07:20 tjr Exp $
 $FreeBSD: src/bin/ls/util.c,v 1.32 2003/09/09 12:02:52 tjr Exp $

Btw: ident(1) also works on source files, Makefiles -- basically
everything that has a CVS id line.

__FBSDID is defined in /usr/src/sys/sys/cdefs.h

Simon

Btw: While reading the FreeBSD source can be very interesting, browsing the
 commit logs can be even more exciting: You can either use `cvs log'
 directly (on your local copy of the repository or via anoncvs),
 or use the web interface at http://cvsweb.FreeBSD.org.


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Re: FreeBSD 5.2.1 kernel w/ SMP under high load = panic

[Hugo Silva]

Damn.

And any clue on the magic kernel option that stopped the panics? Perhaps
it wasn't *that* magic and just decreased the odds of a panic hapenning
under high load, but that would do for me. I just lost the server 10
minutes ago doing a portupgrade -a with 4 jails running. :x

Regards,

Hugo

> it was said:
>
>>4.10 won't work with the current hardware on the
>>server, and I wanted to
>>try 5.2.1 because of the improved SMP.
>>
>>I know there is a solution for this by adding a
>>kernel option, but i'm
>>completely CLUELESS.
>>
>>Can anyone give a hint?
>>
>>
>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>
>>> On Sunday 01 August 2004 15:08, Hugo Silva wrote:
 I am running a Dual Xeon 2.8ghz w/ SMP, SCHED_ULE
>>on FreeBSD
 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9.
>>>
>>> Why aren't you running FreeBSD 4.10 on a machine
>>like that? 5.2.1 is
>>> simply
>>> NOT ready for production enviroments. Why do you
>>think it's still
>>> considered
>>> as unstable? Your panic is probably being caused by
>>a bad driver, but of
>>> course I can't tell you which one.
>>>
>>> So get in touch with your data centre and get 4.10
>>on that machine. It
>>> will
>>> probably solve most of your problems.
>>>
>>> Jorn
>
> Hello,
>
> I hate to tell you this, but I think your problem may
> be worse than you think. On the other hand, its
> solution is close:
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/todo.html
>
> Refer to item 2 under "show stopper defects".
>
> HTH,
>
> Stheg
>
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No new snapshot of 5-CURRENT anymore?

[Rostislav Krasny]

Hello there.

Sometimes I'm trying new snapshots of 5-CURRENT from
ftp://current.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/ on my box. The
latest snapshot of 5-CURRENT there is 5.2-CURRENT-20040710-JPSNAP now;
i.e. there was no new snapshot for about a month. May it be some
problem of the building machine? According to the build logs from
ftp://current.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/log/ there always
was the same problem until today:

cc -O -pipe -I. -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DPREFIX=\"/usr\"
-I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../cc_tools
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../cc_tools
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/config
-DGENERATOR_FILE  -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include 
-L/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/lib -o genattrtab genattrtab.o rtl.o
print-rtl.o bitmap.o gensupport.o ggc-none.o read-rtl.o
insn-conditions.o genautomata.o varray.o min-insn-modes.o libiberty.a
-lm
/usr/lib/libm.so: undefined reference to `__isnanl'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

Does somebody know when building of the snapshots will be
reconditioned?

Thanks



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Re: upgrading gcc-2.95 to gcc-3.3

[Ion-Mihai Tetcu]

[ cc'ed back questions@ ]

[ top posting detected, reordering content ]

On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 07:25:19 +0800
"SP Network Solutions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> - Original Message - 
> From: "Ion-Mihai Tetcu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "SP Network Solutions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 7:16 AM
> Subject: Re: upgrading gcc-2.95 to gcc-3.3
> 
> 
> > On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 06:45:50 +0800
> > "SP Network Solutions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Dear Sirs,
> > > 
> > > Currently my machine (FreeBSD 4.1) using gcc-2.95 which is running
> > > perfectly. however, I need to upgrade it to gcc-3.3 which i've did via
> > > /usr/ports/lang/gcc33
> > > 
> > > everything when smooth and installed.
> > > 
> > > but when I type gcc -v it still show gcc version 2.95
> > > How do I get the new gcc-3.3 to run, what do i need to do or any
> > > configuration line, comands etc to make it work
> > 
> >  `which gcc` would point you to the right direction ;-)
>
> Thank you for answering my question.
> 
> 'which gcc'   it point me to /usr/bin/gcc
> 
> errr... but still cannot get gcc-3.3 to run
> Sorry...I'm confuse any tips to configure it to run..?

And the ports install binaries by default in .. bingo /usr/local/bin

What you which(1) tell is that /usr/bin is the first and /usr/local/bin
in after it in in your shell's PATH.

So try /usr/local/bin/gcc -v

Note that it is not a good idea to over-write you system's gcc, as in
FreeBSD there is a very tight integration between the compiler and the
system. Some of the gcc ports provide a knob to install over "base" gcc
and probably they are tested to work, I don't know.

 % /usr/bin/gcc -v
Using built-in specs.
Configured with: FreeBSD/i386 system compiler
Thread model: posix
gcc version 3.3.3 [FreeBSD] 20031106


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Re: backspace and delete keys behavior

[Ion-Mihai Tetcu]

On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 12:17:29 +0930
Malcolm Kay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Don't fool with xmodmap; it will work against you in applications -- just 
>  bind the key sequence in your shell (tcsh?)
>  $  bindkey "^[[3~" delete-char

yey, thanks

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[OT] Re: Receiving your address on my tv

[stheg olloydson]

it was said:

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] is a mailing list.  Please keep
>the mailing list
>CCed on all replies.
>
>sylvia bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for answering my email.  Believe me this is
>not a joke.  It's
>> driving me crazy.  My tv is hooked up to Cox Cable
>in Las Vegas, NV.
>> The channel I'm receiving the message on is CBS. 
>The address looks
>> something like this: 
[n:][e:2000101][8A41]
>
>What makes you think this address has anything to do
>with FreeBSD?
>
>> I've received other addressess also, but you are
>the first ones kind
>> enough to answer me.  It begins with a solid black 



>> start up again.  I've tried to tape it because
>everybody else is asleep
>> and no one believes me, but it won't tape.  When I
>play the tape back I
>> just get a blurry screen.



Hello,

What you have there is an ingress problem. The
question is what's causing it. It may be due to signal
leakage in the actual cable. If so, your neighbors
should see the same thing at the same time you do. Ask
them. Either way, Cox needs to test the coax from your
set top box all the way to the optical node. Have
someone come out with a strength meter. It may be a
noisy tap, and they won't find that testing from the
headend.
The fact you can't tape it, though, is interesting and
suggests that the signal isn't coming through the
cable. Perhaps someone within wireless range is doing
something that they ought to be doing better, and your
tuner is picking it up. That would be an FCC problem.

HTH,

Stheg

PS. BTW, why _do_ you think
"[n:][e:2000101][8A41]" is related to
FreeBSD?




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Way OT programming question

[Josh Paetzel]

I've been muddling through some of the source files for FreeBSD 
5.2.1-RELEASE, and I've noticed that a large number of .c files 
in /usr/src have something similar to below in them:

#ifndef lint
#if 0
static char sccsid[] = "@(#)cat.c   8.2 (Berkeley) 4/27/95";
#endif
#endif /* not lint */
#include 
__FBSDID("$FreeBSD: src/bin/cat/cat.c,v 1.29 2003/04/30 17:40:28 
obrien Exp $");

1) Isn't 'if 0' always negative?
2) What is the __FBSDID line doing?

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Re: upgrading gcc-2.95 to gcc-3.3

[Ion-Mihai Tetcu]

On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 06:45:50 +0800
"SP Network Solutions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dear Sirs,
> 
> Currently my machine (FreeBSD 4.1) using gcc-2.95 which is running
> perfectly. however, I need to upgrade it to gcc-3.3 which i've did via
> /usr/ports/lang/gcc33
> 
> everything when smooth and installed.
> 
> but when I type gcc -v it still show gcc version 2.95
> How do I get the new gcc-3.3 to run, what do i need to do or any
> configuration line, comands etc to make it work

 `which gcc` would point you to the right direction ;-)



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Re: FreeBSD 5.2.1 kernel w/ SMP under high load = panic

[stheg olloydson]

it was said:

>4.10 won't work with the current hardware on the
>server, and I wanted to
>try 5.2.1 because of the improved SMP.
>
>I know there is a solution for this by adding a
>kernel option, but i'm
>completely CLUELESS.
>
>Can anyone give a hint?
>
>
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> On Sunday 01 August 2004 15:08, Hugo Silva wrote:
>>> I am running a Dual Xeon 2.8ghz w/ SMP, SCHED_ULE
>on FreeBSD
>>> 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9.
>>
>> Why aren't you running FreeBSD 4.10 on a machine
>like that? 5.2.1 is
>> simply
>> NOT ready for production enviroments. Why do you
>think it's still
>> considered
>> as unstable? Your panic is probably being caused by
>a bad driver, but of
>> course I can't tell you which one.
>>
>> So get in touch with your data centre and get 4.10
>on that machine. It
>> will
>> probably solve most of your problems.
>>
>> Jorn

Hello,

I hate to tell you this, but I think your problem may
be worse than you think. On the other hand, its
solution is close:

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/todo.html

Refer to item 2 under "show stopper defects".

HTH,

Stheg

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Re: OOo packages for FreeBSD porting <-> projects.imp

[epilogue]

On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 20:57:57 +0200
dick hoogendijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Normally I download the FreeBSd packages (4.10R) on
> http://projects.imp.ch but the lates version they have for fbsd-4.10 is
> OOo-1.1.0_1
> On the openoffice site I followed some links to the
> porting.openoffice.org for freebsd and saw packages for freebsd-4.10
> OOO-version 1.1.2 which is quite higher than on imp.ch
> 
> Can someone tell me if it's OK to upgrade or should I just stay with the
> packages from projects.imp.ch? FWIW, the latter work fine ;-)

the packages you find below should be just fine:

http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/


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upgrading gcc-2.95 to gcc-3.3

[SP Network Solutions]

Dear Sirs,

Currently my machine (FreeBSD 4.1) using gcc-2.95 which is running perfectly. however, 
I need to upgrade it to gcc-3.3 which i've did via /usr/ports/lang/gcc33

everything when smooth and installed.

but when I type gcc -v it still show gcc version 2.95
How do I get the new gcc-3.3 to run, what do i need to do or any configuration line, 
comands etc to make it work

thank you

adrian.
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make index problems..

[dick hoogendijk]

Usely I do something like this:

# cd /root
# cvsup -g -L 2 /root/ports.supfile
# cd /usr/ports
# make index
# portsdb -u

It always worked like a charm.. But this night after cvsup and a 'make
index' I ran portsdb -u and almost every portentry was deleted because
some error about 10 fieldnames needed  The result was that almost
every portname became unknown to portupgrade..
I ran make index a second and a third time with the same results.. Can't
figure out what's wrong all of a sudden..

I "fixed it" running "portsdb -Uu" --> this resulted in a good
/usr/ports/INDEX and a good index.db file.

Any ideas why the "make index" stopped working?

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Keyboard problems (connecting keyboard after boot)

[Stefan Cars]

Hi!

I would like to be able to connect the keyboard after boot. It seems this
is the way the ERA (Enhanced Remote Access) works on our Dell machines, is
it possible to get this work ? I've seen somewhere that if the PS/2 isn't
plugged in at boot FreeBSD defaults to USB, is it possible to change this
behavior. ?


Kind Regards,
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Re: FreeBSD and MySQL - mysqld eats CPU alive

[Jeremy Zawodny]

On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 10:08:32PM -0500, adp wrote:
> I recently posted the following message to MySQL discussion list. The
> response there, and the one I keep finding on Google, is that this is a
> long-standing issue betweeen FreeBSD and MySQL. For me this has been
> happening since FreeBSD 4.4.
> 
> I have one site where we are going to have to move to Linux. I would much
> prefer keeping us on FreeBSD, but we just can't afford the downtime anymore.
> Another site is looking at moving to PostgreSQL on FreeBSD.

That's too bad.  MySQL can run quite well on FreeBSD.

> I have several MySQL and FreeBSD installs across a few different sites, and
> I consistently have problems with mysqld. It will begin to eat up all of the
> CPU and eventually become unresponsive (or the machine will just burn). I
> can't seem to manually reproduce this, but given enough time a FreeBSD box
> with mysqld will go down.

Yes, it's FreeBSD's broken DNS libraries.  Add skip-name-resolve to
your my.cnf and the problem will probably go away.

Jeremy
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Re: Help Connecting NT 4.0 to Internet via LAN

[Wojciech Puchar]

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> I had previously attempted to repair a corrupted system file in my NT box
> but was unsuccessful.  I ended up reinstalling back to the original Service
> Pack 1.   My plan now is to upgrade the IE browser and OS on-line but I'm
> having trouble getting the browser to work.
>
> At this stage, the NT box can ping web sites successfully using
> their IP address but not the URL name.  The browser will search and find
> a website but eventually responds with "Could not open ..."
>
> Would appreciate any troubleshooting advice you have time to relay.
>

DNS doesn't work for you
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Re: bandwidth question

[Wojciech Puchar]

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> Can you tell me in details?
>
> I need the bandwidth software to create graph in 1G
quite unclear question.

you ipfw to create counters for what you need, read it regularly (cron
etc.), then process data to greate some graphs etc. (maybe gnuplot).

Possibly there are something that will do this for you.


if you like just to get how big traffic goes through interface
you may use systat to take data.

anyway - it doesn't mean if it's 9600bps ppp link of ethernet or gigabit
ethernet
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Re: Help Connecting NT 4.0 to Internet via LAN

[Bill Moran]

Bob Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Trying to reinstall Windows NT 4.0 and reconnect it to the internet via LAN
> with FreeBSD 4.9 as the server.
> 
> I had previously attempted to repair a corrupted system file in my NT box
> but was unsuccessful.  I ended up reinstalling back to the original Service
> Pack 1.   My plan now is to upgrade the IE browser and OS on-line but I'm
> having trouble getting the browser to work.
> 
> At this stage, the NT box can ping web sites successfully using
> their IP address but not the URL name.

Sounds like your DNS is not set up on the NT box.  Set up your DNS on the
NT box, and all should be well.

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Re: FreeBSD and MySQL - mysqld eats CPU alive

[John Nielsen]

On Saturday 31 July 2004 21:08, adp wrote:
> I recently posted the following message to MySQL discussion list. The
> response there, and the one I keep finding on Google, is that this is a
> long-standing issue betweeen FreeBSD and MySQL. For me this has been
> happening since FreeBSD 4.4.

I don't have any additional info about the problem, but as you say it does 
seem to be a long-standing issue.  The hosting company I use 
(johncompanies.com -- highly recommended) has a "nanny" script that you may 
find useful:

http://www.johncompanies.com/collocation/knowledge/freebsd_mysqld_nanny.txt

HTH,

JN
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Re: [OT] QWERTY key layout (was Re: BigApache for Windows - Whydoesn't BSD have an installerpackage like this ???)

[Henrik W Lund]

Bill Moran wrote:
Matthew Seaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 04:36:57PM -0700, Henrik W Lund wrote:
   

The command to use is umount, not unmount.
umount /cdrom
Don't ask me why they left out the first 'n' there.
 

Because typing the sequence u-n-m at speed is really quite difficult.
It's also the reason that it's perl and not pearl.
Same as it's hard to type t-h-e correctly all teh time, nad typing
a-n-d is a bit of a pain too.  Anyone would think that the qwerty
keyboard layout was designed to slow down your typing speed...
   

I don't remember where, but I read somewhere that the qwerty layout
was not designed for raw speed (as some people think) but was designed
for speed on _mechanical_ typewriters.  i.e. part of it's design is
to maximize the possibility that you'll alternate left-hand/right-hand,
thus minimizing the possibility that the hammers that fly up and strike
the paper won't jam.  (probably most of you have never used a truely
_manual_ typewriter, and thus don't understand the mechanics ...
manual typewriters use hammers, much like a piano, that have the embossed
letters on them, and you have to hit the key hard enough to cause the
hammer to fly up and strike through the ink ribbon and put the image of
the letter on the paper.  You also had the possibility that if you tried
to type too fast, the next hammer would hit the first hammer as it was
on its way down, thus jamming the typewriter and requiring you to stick
your hand in the mechanism and unjam it, which meant you probably got
ink on your hands ... _unlike_ a piano, all the hammers with the letters
on them were angled to strike the ribbon/paper at exactly the same
location, thus the possibility of collission was very high.)
Anyway ... the fact that the qwerty layout was adopted for electric
typerwriters, and later keyboards that don't have the same restrictions as
manual typewriters is an unfortunate consequence of "let's use something
that everyone already knows."  It would have been better if the folks who
developed the electric typewriter had used the Dvorak layout, but it's
unlikely at this point that the world will switch.
If you've never seen a mechanical typewriter, it's an interesting history
lesson.  It will explain a lot about why the keyboards we use today function
they way they do.  Just wait until you learn how the SHIFT key used to
function!  ... I wonder if I still have that old cheapo typerwriter in
the attic somewhere ...
 

I remember those!! I used to love hammering as many keys at the same 
time as I could. My parents would spend ages "unjamming" it afterwards. :-D

-Henrik W Lund
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Help Connecting NT 4.0 to Internet via LAN

[Bob Perry]

Trying to reinstall Windows NT 4.0 and reconnect it to the internet via LAN
with FreeBSD 4.9 as the server.
I had previously attempted to repair a corrupted system file in my NT box
but was unsuccessful.  I ended up reinstalling back to the original Service
Pack 1.   My plan now is to upgrade the IE browser and OS on-line but I'm
having trouble getting the browser to work.
At this stage, the NT box can ping web sites successfully using
their IP address but not the URL name.  The browser will search and find
a website but eventually responds with "Could not open ..."
Would appreciate any troubleshooting advice you have time to relay.
Thanks,
Bob Perry.
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distributed.
FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p2 #0
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multiple fxp nics - how do I make them play nice?

[Louis LeBlanc]

Hey again everyone.  I'm trying to get two network cards working on
the same FreeBSD 5.2.1 box, which would normally be pretty trivial,
except they're both on the fxp driver.

I have them booting up, but As I suspected, the onboard nic dropped
down to fpx1 while the newly installed nic hijacked fpx0.

Here's the relevant info from /var/run/dmesg.boot:
fxp0:  port 0xdf00-0xdf1f mem 
0xfce0-0xfcef,0xf800-0xf8000fff irq 21 at device 0.0 on pci2 
fxp0: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:74:12:48
miibus0:  on fxp0
inphy0:  on miibus0
inphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
fxp1:  port 0xdf40-0xdf7f mem 
0xfcdef000-0xfcde irq 20 at device 8.0 on pci2
fxp1: Ethernet address 00:11:11:02:20:43
miibus1:  on fxp1
inphy1:  on miibus1
inphy1:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto

The ethernet addresses are what tells me the nics swapped out.

Before installing the second nic, fxp0 (the onboard nic) was falling
on irq 20 with ethernet address 00:11:11:01:20:43.

I guess I don't really care all that much, but just to be sure they
don't try connecting the wrong network if the other dies, I'd like to
force them to a specific device.

I vaguely remember something about hints in /boot/device.hints but I'm
not sure I like the idea of 'guessing' the right way to do this.

I didn't find it in the FAQ or the FM, but I know that doesn't mean
it's not there.  I'd appreciate the pointer or the quick and dirty
howto.

TIA
Lou
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Re: where can I get ISO IMAGE OF newest FREEBSD ?

[DrVince]

On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:15:47 +0200, Undisclosed_Recipient wrote
> where can I get ISO IMAGE OF newest FREEBSD ?

FreeBSD offers the ISO of releases.  If you want other ISOs you have to make 
them yourself.

You need a working computer with a FreeBSD installed.  Fetch the sources 
(cvsup).  Optionnally update your system from these sources (may prevent 
glitches).  Go to /usr/src/release/ and build from there.  There are some infos 
around the web to help you from that point.

DrVince

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Re: bandwidth question

[DrVince]

On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 06:42:42 +0800 (CST), adrian kok wrote
> Do you know there is bandwidth software to support
> Giga ethernet?

What do you mean by "bandwidth sortware"?

DrVince

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Re: [OT] QWERTY key layout (was Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installerpackage like this ???)

[Svein Halvor Halvorsen]

[Bill Moran, 2004-08-01]
>  I don't remember where, but I read somewhere that the qwerty layout
>  was not designed for raw speed (as some people think) but was designed
>  for speed on _mechanical_ typewriters.  i.e. part of it's design is
>  to maximize the possibility that you'll alternate left-hand/right-hand,
>  thus minimizing the possibility that the hammers that fly up and strike
>  the paper won't jam.  (probably most of you have never used a truely
>  _manual_ typewriter, and thus don't understand the mechanics ...

This is probably not true (that most of us have never used one of those,
that is.) It's not -that- long, since these were in common use, probably
just 20 years. And even though I'm not alot older than that myself, most
people my age have seen and played with one of those as a kid. Everyone
had one in the attic, if not your parents, at least your grand parent.

I can, by the way, confirm what you've read. The qwerty layout -is- indeed
designed to make typing slow, in order to minimize the posibility of a jam

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FreeBSD 5.2.1 port dependencies (PHP/PEAR)

[Comrade Burnout]

i recently upgraded some machines to FreeBSD 5.2.1-STABLE, and trying to 
install the PEAR objects (PHP stuff).

I've looked through the INDEX file in my local ports collection, and the 
PEAR tree is looking for:

php4-4.3.4 

whereas mod_php4 and any of the other (non-PEAR ) PHP ports are looking for:
mod_php4-4.3.4,1
when i try to use pkg_add ... i get the following:
burnt# pkg_add -r pear-DB
Fetching 
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.2.1-release/Latest/pear-DB.tbz... 
Done.
Fetching 
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.2.1-release/All/php4-4.3.4_2.tbz... 
Done.
pkg_add: package 'php4-4.3.4_2' conflicts with mod_php4-4.3.4_2,1
pkg_add: please use pkg_delete first to remove conflicting package(s) or 
-f to force installation
pkg_add: pkg_add of dependency 'php4-4.3.4_2' failed!


is there a way to tweak the Makefile locally to force the PEAR install 
to use the existing PHP version?

everything on my new machine works with the existing PHP setup *but* one 
site that uses the PEAR classes.


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Re: FreeBSD and MySQL - mysqld eats CPU alive

[Brandon D. Valentine]

On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 10:08:32PM -0500, adp wrote:
> Any help on this? Googling shows a long history of people having these
> problems but no solutions. Please don't give me a URL to a Google showing
> others having this problem--I've seen that and more. I want to know if there
> is a solution. Any help is appreciated!

When this happens are you able to attach truss or gdb to the process?
This is impossible to diagnosis without some kind of debugging
information.

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lpd and apsfilter

[Paulo Fonseca Jr.]

I was installed apsfilter with lpd here with printcap setting as:

lp|deskjet;r=300x300;q=draft;c=full;p=letter;m=auto:\
:lp=/dev/ulpt0:\
:if=/usr/local/etc/apsfilter/basedir/bin/apsfilter:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
:lf=/var/spool/lpd/lp/log:\
:af=/var/spool/lpd/lp/acct:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:

/dev/ulpt0 is recognized by usbdevs and jobs are being queued but printer not 
works, not even sign, but job are being unqueued after about few seconds.

(dmesg)
ulpt0: hp deskjet 3420, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2, iclass 7/1
ulpt0: using bi-directional mode

Please, help me.
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OOo packages for FreeBSD porting <-> projects.imp

[dick hoogendijk]

Hello,

Normally I download the FreeBSd packages (4.10R) on
http://projects.imp.ch but the lates version they have for fbsd-4.10 is
OOo-1.1.0_1
On the openoffice site I followed some links to the
porting.openoffice.org for freebsd and saw packages for freebsd-4.10
OOO-version 1.1.2 which is quite higher than on imp.ch

Can someone tell me if it's OK to upgrade or should I just stay with the
packages from projects.imp.ch? FWIW, the latter work fine ;-)

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Re: Claiming that the list's e-mail showed up on her TV

[Chuck Swiger]

3BSD wrote:
I think anyone who replies to that address is getting subscribed to a
spam list. Please don't reply.
Heh, good advice but how could you notice the difference?
Anyone who mails anything to any list is getting subscribed to spam these 
days.  Ditto for any address you use even only for private mail, if it gets 
put into the address book of a Windows user who gets virusized.  :-(

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RE: Multicast Forwarding

[Albert van Dam]

Loren

We managed to get it working on the 23rd of July. Mrouted does forward
multicast packets as long as at least two machines join a multicast
session. The one channel on one of our routers were stuffed so we
replaced the router and it worked fine from there.

Albert

-Original Message-
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Sent: 01 August 2004 18:53
To: Albert van Dam
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Multicast Forwarding


On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 02:56:41PM +0200, Albert van Dam wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I am a newbie to FreeBSD.
> 
> We have the following setup in a lab environment:
> * PC1 (IP: 192.168.10.2/24) connected with cross over to wireless 
> router A (IP: 192.168.10.1/24 - sis0)
> * PC2 (IP: 192.168.20.2/24) connected with cross over to wireless 
> router B (IP: 192.168.20.1/24 - sis0)
> * Wireless router A (IP: 192.168.30.1/24 - wi0) connected with 802.11b

> to Wireless router B (IP: 192.168.30.2/24 - wi1)
> 
> PC1 can ping PC2 and PC2 can ping PC1.
> Both Wireless router A and Wireless router B runs FreeBSD. The routing

> on this works but I cannot get UDP Multicast packets through. I have 
> read in the FreeBSD docs that mrouted should be running and 
> subsequently I have it running on both routers.
> 

I think that mrouted will only forward multicast packets that it knows
another interface is subscribed to so network A would have to tell the
router an IGMP packet subscribing to the multicast channel you're
talking on on network B, and vice-versa.  Not sure how to generate the
IGMP packet, it's been a while since I worked with multicast.

> Tcpdump shows the UDP multicast packets on Wireless router A from PC1 
> on sis0 and UDP multicast packets on Wireless router B from PC2 on 
> sis0.
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Albert
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Re: Curious question about FreeBSD's TCP/IP and SMP locking

[Chuck Swiger]

Patrick Dung wrote:
I am not programmer but I want to know what is the use
of adding so much locks/mutex in the stack?
So that it works properly under SMP.
Concurrent programming is really hard to do.
Also, would it make a newbie/beginner feel difficult to
understand the code (I mean the TCP/IP part)?
Why, yes, certainly it does.  Beyond that, the size of the code involved 
implies something about the complexity:

8-epia# wc -l /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_input.c
3349 /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_input.c
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Re: FreeBSD 5.2.1 kernel w/ SMP under high load = panic

[Hugo Silva]

4.10 won't work with the current hardware on the server, and I wanted to
try 5.2.1 because of the improved SMP.

I know there is a solution for this by adding a kernel option, but i'm
completely CLUELESS.

Can anyone give a hint?


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> On Sunday 01 August 2004 15:08, Hugo Silva wrote:
>> I am running a Dual Xeon 2.8ghz w/ SMP, SCHED_ULE on FreeBSD
>> 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9.
>
> Why aren't you running FreeBSD 4.10 on a machine like that? 5.2.1 is
> simply
> NOT ready for production enviroments. Why do you think it's still
> considered
> as unstable? Your panic is probably being caused by a bad driver, but of
> course I can't tell you which one.
>
> So get in touch with your data centre and get 4.10 on that machine. It
> will
> probably solve most of your problems.
>
> Jorn
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Re: Quake3 & mouse, silly i know

[Glyn Tebbutt]

On Sun, 2004-08-01 at 18:12, Jorn Argelo wrote:
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> [snip]
> 
> > Just an update, i checked the logs i get
> > "Failed to detect XF86DGA mouse"
> > i have a feeling this is because im using xorg
> 
> Go to your xorg.conf and look at this section:
> 
> # This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
> # initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
> SubSection  "extmod"
>   Option"omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA extension
> EndSubSectio
> 
> As you can see, I have it disabled. If you just remove "omit" then it _should_ 
> load your module. 
> 
> I'm playing Unreal Tournament 2004 all the time on my Gentoo Linux machine, 
> using Xorg. It runs like a train, never any problems with it. So I don't 
> think that Xorg has no compatibility with XFree86 or anything.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jorn
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That fixed it thanks, well as per my other message, im having to go back
to 5.2.1 because the gcc in -current breaks a couple of gnome ports
*really important to me as its all the programs i use lol*
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Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installer package like this ???

[Giorgos Keramidas]

On 2004-08-01 04:48, DK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I edited rc.conf & added the line: amd_enable="YES"
>
> However, my devices(Floppy & CDROM) are not automounting after logging
> in or starting X ???

You have to tell amd what devices to automount and where by creating a
proper amd.conf file.  See the amd.conf(5) manual page:

$ man 5 amd.conf

> 1) Trying to search for a file I get the error:
>
> 127# locate mysql
> locate: database too small: /var/db/locate.database

Your 'locate' database is out of date or is empty.  Try logging in as
root and manually firing up the script that periodically updates it:

# /etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate

Then you'll be able to use "locate" as expected.  This should have
already run if you kept your machine up at least a week, but you
probably haven't so run it manually ;-)

> 2) I deleted the installed package xfce4, then added it again but xfce4 still
> won't start. Is the warnings(about versions) given when I add the
> package(below) a cause of why it won't start ???
>
> 127# pkg_add xfce4-wm-4.0.5.tgz
> pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'jpeg-6b_3', but 'jpeg-6b_2' is 
> installed
> pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'python-2.3.4', but 
> 'python-2.3.3_5' is installed
> pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'png-1.2.5_5', but 'png-1.2.5_3' 
> is installed
> pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'glib-2.4.2', but 'glib-2.4.0' 
> is installed
> pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'shared-mime-info-0.14_3', but 
> 'shared-mime-info-0.14_2' is installed
> pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'pango-1.4.0_1', but 
> 'pango-1.4.0' is installed
> pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'gtk-2.4.3_1', but 'gtk-2.4.0' 
> is installed
> pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'startup-notification-0.7', but 
> 'startup-notification-0.6' is installed

You have lots of old (out of date) packages installed.  Have you gotten
your FreeBSD workstation to connect to the network yet?  If yes, you can
install `portupgrade' and use it to update all your packages/ports to
their latest versions.

This is probably not why xfce doesn't work though.  The
sysutils/xfce4-utils package installs a command called "startxfce4".
AFAIK, this is the program that fires up xfce.  When you install that
package (as part of the dependency list of xfce4) you should be able to
use xfce4 as your desktop by editing your ~/.xinitrc file and making
sure that the last command it runs is:

exec startxfce4

If the .xinitrc script already contains other 'exec' commands, for
instance to start Windowmaker, like this one:

$ cat -n .xinitrc | tail -2
49
50  exec wmaker

you might want to comment out or delete those to make sure they don't
stop startxfce4 from running.

> 3)I am trying to install Apachetoolbox-1.5.70(it may well be a
> BigApache for BSD :)) - but I get the errors "Command not found"
> trying to run it:
>
> 127# pwd
> /usr/ports/distfiles/Apachetoolbox-1.5.70
> 127# ls
> CHANGE  MIRROR  bin etc src
> INSTALL README  contrib install.sh
> 127# ./install. sh
> ./install.: Command not found.
> 127# ./install sh
> ./install: Command not found.
> 127# ./install
> ./install: Command not found.

This is not the proper way to install ports or packages in FreeBSD.
Please, refer to the Handbook section on ports and packages for details.

> [snip irrelevant attempts to force bash to do something mysterious]
>
> Any ideas to these 3 last problems ???

Yes, read the Handbook for instructions on installing ports/packages :/

- Giorgos

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Re: Partition Magic & BSD partitions (was: something about Apache)

[Giorgos Keramidas]

On 2004-08-01 04:18, DK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Floppy & CD mount OK now, however even though the floppy mounts OK,
> when I mount the floppy, I get:
>
> 127# mount -v -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt
> /dev/fd0 on /mnt (msdos, local, reads: sync 2 async 0)
>
> floppy: mount -v -t msdos /dev/fd0c /mnt
> CDROM: mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom
>
> However, I can't seem to unmount them. I get "Command not found".
> 127# unmount /cdrom
> unmount: Command not found.

There is no "unmount" command.  Try "umount" without the extra 'n'.

> > > When I run partition magic in Win2000, its says that I have a BAD
> > > partition. Doing some searching, found that BSD messes up something
> > > with the sizes of the geometry of the selected partitions(slices) -
> > > still don't know how to fix this ???
> >
> > Don't "fix" anything.  It's more likely that just Partition Magic that
> > is brain-damaged and cannot read the BSD partition properly.
>
> No, partition magic can read the BSD partition correctly. PM is saying
> the whole primary parition (both Windows 2000 + FBSD) is BAD (nothing
> to do with surface errors)

I don't know anything about your partition table so I can't say for sure
if PartitionMagic has gone nuts or not.  I do remember it had "issues"
with BSD slices, but that was about a year ago.  I don't use PM so
knowing if these issues are resolved now is impossible for me.

> I can't remember where I read it (BSD site or book, will look later)
> but when you make the slices, the sizes must add up to a certain
> divisable number, otherwise part of the partition (small number like
> 1024kb) will be unusable.  Thats why PM is saying that the whole
> partition is BAD. But I don't know how to fix this ???

Use the "fdisk" command on your disk to print the partition table and
show me the output.  You should see something like this:

# fdisk /dev/ad0
*** Working on device /dev/ad0 ***
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=87233 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl)

Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
cylinders=87233 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl)

Media sector size is 512
Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
Information from DOS bootblock is:
The data for partition 1 is:
sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
start 63, size 1012032 (494 Meg), flag 80 (active)
beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1;
end: cyl 62/ head 254/ sector 63
The data for partition 2 is:
sysid 6 (0x06),(Primary 'big' DOS (>= 32MB))
start 1012095, size 2040255 (996 Meg), flag 0
beg: cyl 63/ head 0/ sector 1;
end: cyl 189/ head 254/ sector 63
The data for partition 3 is:
sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
start 3052350, size 84871395 (41441 Meg), flag 0
beg: cyl 190/ head 0/ sector 1;
end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
The data for partition 4 is:


- Giorgos

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Re: bandwidth question

[Chuck Swiger]

adrian kok wrote:
Can you tell me in details?
Sure-- if you ask a specific question, you will get a detailed answer.
I need the bandwidth software to create graph in 1G
Your question is unclear.  You may be asking about drivers for gigabit 
ethernet NICs (see "man gx", "man bge", "man sk").  Or maybe bandwidth 
management and traffic shaping (see "man dummynet"), or maybe you're talking 
about something else like network management tools which produce pretty charts 
and graphs (see "ls /usr/ports/net-mgmt").

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Re: FreeBSD 5.2.1 kernel w/ SMP under high load = panic

[Jorn Argelo]

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On Sunday 01 August 2004 15:08, Hugo Silva wrote:
> I am running a Dual Xeon 2.8ghz w/ SMP, SCHED_ULE on FreeBSD
> 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9.

Why aren't you running FreeBSD 4.10 on a machine like that? 5.2.1 is simply 
NOT ready for production enviroments. Why do you think it's still considered 
as unstable? Your panic is probably being caused by a bad driver, but of 
course I can't tell you which one.

So get in touch with your data centre and get 4.10 on that machine. It will 
probably solve most of your problems.

Jorn
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Re: [OT?] Sun/Java licensing

[Chuck Swiger]

Bill Moran wrote:
I'm going to start doing Java development, and I'm trying to make sure
that all my legal ducks are in a row.  Can someone point me to a
document that explains what's up with Java licensing.
There are two licenses you care about, the one with the Java 1.4 SDK, which says:
B.  Redistribution.  This Agreement does not grant you the right to 
redistribute Software.  Please refer to the following URL for information 
regarding the redistribution of Software if you are interested in redistribution:

http://sun.com/software/products/appsrvr/appsrvr_oem.html
...in other words, Sun would like to sell you a license to run the software in 
production.  However, you don't have to do that if you don't want to, as the 
other license for the Java Runtime Environment, at:

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/j2re-1_4_2_05-license.txt
...is freely available, and is what your end-users will need to accept in 
order to run your programs.

I mean, if I install jdk14 to develop java apps, can I resell those apps?
Sure, you own the software you write-- obviously providing you don't include 
any of Sun's code with your software, indemnify Sun against all evil, etc etc.

There was a warning that said something about not redistributing binaries,
but it's too vague to tell me whether that means bytecode genereated by the
java compiler, or binaries that would result from me tweaking the jdk
itself.
That's correct.  You're not supposed to tweak the JRE itself, nor write 
software which changes things like how the java.* and com.sun.* packages work.

[ No, Virginia, Java is not OSI open source. :-)]
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Re: Quake3 & mouse, silly i know

[Jorn Argelo]

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> Just an update, i checked the logs i get
> "Failed to detect XF86DGA mouse"
> i have a feeling this is because im using xorg

Go to your xorg.conf and look at this section:

# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
SubSection  "extmod"
  Option"omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA extension
EndSubSectio

As you can see, I have it disabled. If you just remove "omit" then it _should_ 
load your module. 

I'm playing Unreal Tournament 2004 all the time on my Gentoo Linux machine, 
using Xorg. It runs like a train, never any problems with it. So I don't 
think that Xorg has no compatibility with XFree86 or anything.

Cheers,

Jorn
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Re: Multicast Forwarding

[Loren M. Lang]

On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 02:56:41PM +0200, Albert van Dam wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I am a newbie to FreeBSD.
> 
> We have the following setup in a lab environment:
> * PC1 (IP: 192.168.10.2/24) connected with cross over to wireless router
> A (IP: 192.168.10.1/24 - sis0)
> * PC2 (IP: 192.168.20.2/24) connected with cross over to wireless router
> B (IP: 192.168.20.1/24 - sis0)
> * Wireless router A (IP: 192.168.30.1/24 - wi0) connected with 802.11b
> to Wireless router B (IP: 192.168.30.2/24 - wi1)
> 
> PC1 can ping PC2 and PC2 can ping PC1.
> Both Wireless router A and Wireless router B runs FreeBSD. The routing
> on this works but I cannot get UDP Multicast packets through. I have
> read in the FreeBSD docs that mrouted should be running and subsequently
> I have it running on both routers.
> 

I think that mrouted will only forward multicast packets that it knows
another interface is subscribed to so network A would have to tell the
router an IGMP packet subscribing to the multicast channel you're
talking on on network B, and vice-versa.  Not sure how to generate the
IGMP packet, it's been a while since I worked with multicast.

> Tcpdump shows the UDP multicast packets on Wireless router A from PC1 on
> sis0 and UDP multicast packets on Wireless router B from PC2 on sis0. 
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Albert
> 
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Re: [OT?] Sun/Java licensing

[orv]

Bill Moran wrote:
I'm getting lost in Suns marketing-oriented webpages, and I can't seem
to find the information I need.
I'm going to start doing Java development, and I'm trying to make sure
that all my legal ducks are in a row.  Can someone point me to a
document that explains what's up with Java licensing.  I mean, if I
install jdk14 to develop java apps, can I resell those apps?  There was
a warning that said something about not redistributing binaries, but
it's too vague to tell me whether that means bytecode genereated by
the java compiler, or binaries that would result from me tweaking the
jdk itself.
I'm looking for a little clarification!
TIA.
not sure of a specific url that answers your questions.
However having been a java developer for a while you can redistribute 
your app anyway you'd like, however you cannot redistribute SUN's 
JRE/JDK without their premission.

Only apps i've seen that redistribute JRE/JDK are IDE's ...
hth
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Buildworld fails on FreeBSD 5.2.1

[Loren M. Lang]

A make buildworld fails to compile FreeBSD 5.2.1-p9 with the warning
dereferencing type-punned pointer will break strict-aliasing and -Werror
is set.  The first library it fails on is libpam compiled staticly.
Even if I set -DNO_WERROR to get past libpam, a later part will fail
with the same warning, but if I have -DNO_WERROR set for the entire
buildworld, it finishes.  I've had this problem since I tried to compile
5.2.1-p2 so I haven't been able to upgrade once beyond 5.2.1.  I haven't
seen anything relevent in the UPDATING file.

Relevant make.conf lines:
CPUTYPE=p3
CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe

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[OT?] Sun/Java licensing

[Bill Moran]

I'm getting lost in Suns marketing-oriented webpages, and I can't seem
to find the information I need.

I'm going to start doing Java development, and I'm trying to make sure
that all my legal ducks are in a row.  Can someone point me to a
document that explains what's up with Java licensing.  I mean, if I
install jdk14 to develop java apps, can I resell those apps?  There was
a warning that said something about not redistributing binaries, but
it's too vague to tell me whether that means bytecode genereated by
the java compiler, or binaries that would result from me tweaking the
jdk itself.

I'm looking for a little clarification!

TIA.

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FreeBSD 5.2.1 kernel w/ SMP under high load = panic

[Hugo Silva]

I am running a Dual Xeon 2.8ghz w/ SMP, SCHED_ULE on FreeBSD
5.2.1-RELEASE-p9.

Whenever I load the server a bit more (let [EMAIL PROTECTED] run, compile stuff in
multiple jails, etc), it will simple go offline. I confirmed with the
datacenter and it is indeed a panic, but the datacenter didn't give me the
panic message. I know for *sure* it's because of the high loads.

I need to sort this out, this is a powerful server being cut because of
FreeBSD/SMP, and I know there is a kernel option to prevent the panic, I
read about it ages ago on a forum. But I can't locate it. That user said
if he disabled SMP, panics would stop. But another user suggested adding a
kernel option (which I simply don't remember), and panics stopped, even
with SMP.

I tried KVA_PAGES=512, but it only caused another panic, this time as soon
as the system started up..

syncing disks, buffers remaining... panic: pmap_invalidate_range:
interrupts disabled
cpuid = 0;
boot() called on cpu#0
uptime: 9s

That was the most I got from the datacenter since the sysadmin is on
vacations and the guy I spoke to isn't very technical.

So, KVA_PAGES isn't the solution..

Here are my rc.conf & sysctl.conf & loader.conf:

rc.conf:
sshd_enable="YES"
usbd_enable="YES"
sendmail_enable="NONE"
syslogd_enable="YES"
syslogd_flags="-ss"
linux_enable="YES"
inetd_enable="NO"
clear_tmp_enable="YES"
enable_quotas="YES"
check_quotas="YES"
update_motd="NO"
pf_enable="YES"
pf_logd="YES"
pf_conf="/etc/pf.conf"


sysctl.conf:

security.bsd.see_other_uids=0
net.inet.tcp.recvspace=32768
net.inet.tcp.sendspace=32768
net.inet.icmp.drop_redirect=1
net.inet.tcp.blackhole=2
net.inet.udp.blackhole=2
net.inet.tcp.log_in_vain=0
net.inet.udp.log_in_vain=0
kern.maxfiles=32768
security.jail.set_hostname_allowed=0
kern.maxfilesperproc=2000
kern.maxprocperuid=400
kern.coredump=0
net.inet.tcp.msl=7500
kern.ipc.somaxconn=16424


loader.conf:

hint.acpi.0.disabled=1
kern.ipc.nmbclusters=32768
kern.ipc.maxsockets=16424
kern.maxproc=8000


These are my custom kernel options:

options IPSTEALTH
options QUOTA
options RANDOM_IP_ID
options SC_DISABLE_REBOOT




Any help is really appreciated, I have this server idling (compile lots of
stuff=die) for 2 weeks now :/

Regards

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Re: Receiving your address on my tv

[Bill Moran]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] is a mailing list.  Please keep the mailing list
CCed on all replies.

sylvia bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks for answering my email.  Believe me this is not a joke.  It's
> driving me crazy.  My tv is hooked up to Cox Cable in Las Vegas, NV.
> The channel I'm receiving the message on is CBS.  The address looks
> something like this:  [n:][e:2000101][8A41]

What makes you think this address has anything to do with FreeBSD?

> I've received other addressess also, but you are the first ones kind
> enough to answer me.  It begins with a solid black square that almost
> completely fills the screen.  Then your address scrolls across the top
> of the screen.  When that one is complete, the same address scrolls
> across the screen under the first.  It continues until it reaches the
> bottom.  They just keep moving up and new ones are added at the bottom.
> If I click a volume button the addresses stop for a few seconds and then
> start up again.  I've tried to tape it because everybody else is asleep
> and no one believes me, but it won't tape.  When I play the tape back I
> just get a blurry screen.

This is almost definately a problem with Cox.  As bizaar as it sounds,
somehow it doesn't suprise me.  However, I'm sure you got the other
emails ... most folks on the mailing list assumed this was some sort
of joke.  I can't blame them, it sounds pretty silly/crazy.

However, most cable companies are using the Internet to transfer their
data around.  Just like it's possible to crack a MS Windows machine to
steal informatin from it, it's probably possible to crack Cox's equipment
as well.

If I were you, I would contact Cox and bitch them out.  Even if someone
on the Internet has managed to crack Cox's system to push data to you
that they shouldn't be allowed to, it's _Cox_ responsibility to fix
it.  You may have to use a video camera to capture what's happening, as
it's very possible that it's occuring in such a way that your VCR can't
capture it.

However, it's almost definately not related to FreeBSD, and thus you're
unlikely to get very much useful assistance from this mailing list.
Despite the fact that Cox is likely not to believe you, then deny that
there is a problem, those are the people you need to speak with to get
it fixed.  Be persistant.  If you can't get a response from them, call
the local news station and see if they'll be willing to do an expose ...
news crews love stuff like this.

> Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:sylvia bowman wrote:
> 
> > I am receiving your email address on my television screen. It happens
> > late on Saturday evenings. Can you address this situation, please.
> > Sylvia Bowman
> 
> I'm assuming this isn't a joke ...
> 
> This is about the most unlikely thing I've ever heard of. However, if it
> really is happening, you're going to have to give a better description of
> what you mean. Are you saying that on Saturday evenings your TV screen
> says "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"? Or that you see FreeBSD emails on your
> screen?
> 
> Are you using some sort of webTV?

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[OT] QWERTY key layout (was Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installerpackage like this ???)

[Bill Moran]

Matthew Seaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 04:36:57PM -0700, Henrik W Lund wrote:
> 
> > The command to use is umount, not unmount.
> > 
> > umount /cdrom
> > 
> > Don't ask me why they left out the first 'n' there.
> 
> Because typing the sequence u-n-m at speed is really quite difficult.
> 
> It's also the reason that it's perl and not pearl.
> 
> Same as it's hard to type t-h-e correctly all teh time, nad typing
> a-n-d is a bit of a pain too.  Anyone would think that the qwerty
> keyboard layout was designed to slow down your typing speed...

I don't remember where, but I read somewhere that the qwerty layout
was not designed for raw speed (as some people think) but was designed
for speed on _mechanical_ typewriters.  i.e. part of it's design is
to maximize the possibility that you'll alternate left-hand/right-hand,
thus minimizing the possibility that the hammers that fly up and strike
the paper won't jam.  (probably most of you have never used a truely
_manual_ typewriter, and thus don't understand the mechanics ...
manual typewriters use hammers, much like a piano, that have the embossed
letters on them, and you have to hit the key hard enough to cause the
hammer to fly up and strike through the ink ribbon and put the image of
the letter on the paper.  You also had the possibility that if you tried
to type too fast, the next hammer would hit the first hammer as it was
on its way down, thus jamming the typewriter and requiring you to stick
your hand in the mechanism and unjam it, which meant you probably got
ink on your hands ... _unlike_ a piano, all the hammers with the letters
on them were angled to strike the ribbon/paper at exactly the same
location, thus the possibility of collission was very high.)

Anyway ... the fact that the qwerty layout was adopted for electric
typerwriters, and later keyboards that don't have the same restrictions as
manual typewriters is an unfortunate consequence of "let's use something
that everyone already knows."  It would have been better if the folks who
developed the electric typewriter had used the Dvorak layout, but it's
unlikely at this point that the world will switch.

If you've never seen a mechanical typewriter, it's an interesting history
lesson.  It will explain a lot about why the keyboards we use today function
they way they do.  Just wait until you learn how the SHIFT key used to
function!  ... I wonder if I still have that old cheapo typerwriter in
the attic somewhere ...

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Re: Newbie Problems with cvsup and updating files

[Paul R Culmo]

> It's RELENG_5_2, not RELENG_5_2_1

Thanks all, :)   I did manage to try RELENG_5_2_1 and it did wack the 
entire /usr/src directory after I had reloaded it from CD :) but that's ok 
I did make a backup up my custom kernel file so I didn't lose anything 
major. Just took a while waiting for the system to reload the files off 
the Cd.  

Not that it relates to this subject but reloading the files from the CD 
image caused /etc/master.passwd to change, my users that I added to it 
were gone so I had to re-add them .  This wasn't a big deal I was able to 
fix that on my own.  :) 

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Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installerpackage like this ???

[Matthew Seaman]

On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 04:36:57PM -0700, Henrik W Lund wrote:

> The command to use is umount, not unmount.
> 
> umount /cdrom
> 
> Don't ask me why they left out the first 'n' there.

Because typing the sequence u-n-m at speed is really quite difficult.

It's also the reason that it's perl and not pearl.

Same as it's hard to type t-h-e correctly all teh time, nad typing
a-n-d is a bit of a pain too.  Anyone would think that the qwerty
keyboard layout was designed to slow down your typing speed...

Cheers,

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Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installer package like this ???

[Matthew Seaman]

On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 06:32:57AM -0700, Joshua Tinnin wrote:

> However, if you still want to use packages instead of source, I'm pretty sure 
> if you use the -r flag with pkg_add it will auto-fetch-and-install the 
> dependencies you need, as -r signifies to fetch the package remotely - i.e., 
> pkg_add -r xfce4 (I just tried this with another package, and it installed 
> the dependencies for it).

pkg_add -r will install any dependencies that are missing, but it
won't upgrade any earlier versions of dependencies it finds already
installed.

For that, use 'portupgrade -PPNa' (which, despite the program name,
only operated on packages with that combination of flags) -- but make
sure you download a freshly build /usr/ports/INDEX file, or
portupgrade won't know what the latest versions of things are.  Of
course, you'll have to 'pkg_add -r portupgrade' to install portupgrade
the first time.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installer package like this ???

[Mark Jayson Alvarez]

DK wrote:
 
> I edited rc.conf & added the line: amd_enable="YES"

> However, my devices(Floppy & CDROM) are not
> automounting after logging in or
> starting X  ???
> 
You can also edit /etc/fstab and then add whatever
device you want to automount at startup. Its already
self explanatory. Under the Options tab is where you
would specify if the device should be: ro->read only,
rw->readwrite. By default, all devices that are listed
there are automounted into their corresponding mount
point at startup. You will notice that your cdrom
contains "noauto" in options tab, so that it won't be
automounted at startup. Just erase that "noauto" thing
ok?? As I've said its all self explanatory, if you
find any more trouble with that, do a "man fstab"

BTW: automount requires something to mount, so if you
delete the "noauto" options of you cdrom, in
/etc/fstab, you should always put something inside
your cdrom... perhaps a cd... i guess.=)

> I have some other problems as well:
> 
> 1) Trying to search for a file I get the error:
> 
> 127# locate mysql
> locate: database too small: /var/db/locate.database

Try "find /usr/../anypathwilldo -name "anystring" -ls

> 2) I deleted the installed package xfce4, then added
> it again but xfce4 still
> won't start. Is the warnings(about versions) given

In some cases of installing through packages,
dependency version is an issue, in some cases, its
not. Why not try it on your self.. Collect the proper
version and then run it again. I've been through a lot
of this scenarios.

> trying to run it:

> 127# ./install. sh
> ./install.: Command not found.
> 127# ./install sh
> ./install: Command not found.
> 127# ./install 
> ./install: Command not found.
<--chomp-->


What the!??!>#$=) 
Sir... the script file is "install.sh" you should
run.. "sh install.sh" or "./install.sh". You should
not separate sh from install like what you did.

Two useful tips with regards to file and filenames in
Unix world.. 

1. They are CASE sensitive. You should type exactly as
it is written.
2. Extensions are just "decorations" unlike in Windows
where executables end in .exe
In Unix, it doesn't matter how its filename is
written.

I remember way back in March of this year, the first
time I ever installed FreeBSD in my pc, I was also
asking most of the questions you've been asking in
this list. I have even asked this very dumb question:
"Who Am I mailing to??" and received so much soul-
uplifting reponses, mostly from the names that have
been replying to you lately.. 

The moral of the story:
No question is the "most dumb" or the "most stupid" if
you will just ask it in also a "most polite"or "most
down-to-earth" manner.

I've been reading all of your "rants" lately and just
kept quiet because I know that those names that have
been replying to you where the kindest, most
experienced, most humble persons in this list. I just
couldn't imagine how did they ever ran out of their
patience and have treated you such a "troll".=)

Goodluck sir!!


==
Mark Jayson Alvarez
Polytechnic University of the Philippines
Bachelor of Science in Information Technology
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Re: Quake3 & mouse, silly i know

[Glyn Tebbutt]

On Sun, 2004-08-01 at 13:50, Jorn Argelo wrote:
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> > Hi all
> > i've finally had success with installing freebsd, running -CURRENT  &
> > xorg solid now, very pleased indeed. So now im just build my system,
> > with the apps i use etc etc but i have a question, to test the GL out of
> > my nvidia card *which is perfect actually* i tried quake3, the only
> > problem i have is, my mouse doesn't seem to want to work it wont grab
> > it, its a silly question i know, i have search google but havn't found
> > anything relating
> > Thanks everyone
> 
> Perhaps you should start Quake3 from the command line to see if it spits out 
> any errors regarding your mouse. I played UT2003 on FreeBSD as well, and that 
> worked just fine with the mouse.
> 
> Do note that CURRENT has the bleeding-edge kernel sources, which are often 
> considered as very instable. If you're not a developer, you will probably be 
> better of with a RELEASE (5.2.1) or STABLE (4.10) version of FreeBSD. 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jorn
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Just an update, i checked the logs i get
"Failed to detect XF86DGA mouse"
i have a feeling this is because im using xorg
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Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installerpackage like this ???

[David Fleck]

On Sun, 1 Aug 2004, DK wrote:
I edited rc.conf & added the line: amd_enable="YES"
However, my devices(Floppy & CDROM) are not automounting after logging in or
starting X  ???
In the process view of BSD, I have amd as waiting
Trying to understand man amd isn't helping. Any ideas ???
I currently automount 2 CD's, my floppy drive, a Zip drive, and an nfs 
export from another system, so I think I've got the basics figured out.
However, I use amd on a 4.9 system.  I think it's generally the same on 
5.x, but there may be differences.

Anyway, with that caveat, the best current resource that I know of for 
setting up automounting is

http://www.daemonnews.org/200202/automounting.html
There are a few more steps than just adding the rc.conf line.  You have to 
tell amd what filesystems / devices to mount, and where to mount them to.
These details go in the /etc/amd.conf and /etc/amd.map files, which you'll 
have to configure - see the amd.conf manpage for details on the former, 
and the URL above for details on the latter.

(Note that while the instructions at this URL work, they can in fact be 
improved upon with some experimentation.)

For more background on automounting with amd, these sites have been useful 
to me:

http://www.nber.org/amd.html
http://www.am-utils.org/
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Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installerpackage like this ???

[Henrik W Lund]

DK wrote:
Floppy & CD mount OK now, however even though the floppy mounts OK, when I
mount the floppy, I get:
127# mount -v -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt
/dev/fd0 on /mnt (msdos, local, reads: sync 2 async 0)
floppy: mount -v -t msdos /dev/fd0c /mnt
CDROM: mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom
However, I can't seem to unmount them. I get "Command not found".
127# unmount /cdrom
unmount: Command not found.
 

Greetings!
The command to use is umount, not unmount.
umount /cdrom
Don't ask me why they left out the first 'n' there.
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Re: Quake3 & mouse, silly i know

[Glyn Tebbutt]

On Sun, 2004-08-01 at 13:50, Jorn Argelo wrote:
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> > Hi all
> > i've finally had success with installing freebsd, running -CURRENT  &
> > xorg solid now, very pleased indeed. So now im just build my system,
> > with the apps i use etc etc but i have a question, to test the GL out of
> > my nvidia card *which is perfect actually* i tried quake3, the only
> > problem i have is, my mouse doesn't seem to want to work it wont grab
> > it, its a silly question i know, i have search google but havn't found
> > anything relating
> > Thanks everyone
> 
> Perhaps you should start Quake3 from the command line to see if it spits out 
> any errors regarding your mouse. I played UT2003 on FreeBSD as well, and that 
> worked just fine with the mouse.
> 
> Do note that CURRENT has the bleeding-edge kernel sources, which are often 
> considered as very instable. If you're not a developer, you will probably be 
> better of with a RELEASE (5.2.1) or STABLE (4.10) version of FreeBSD. 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jorn
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Currently i have to as im using pekwm and i cant get gnome to compile,
fails on fam. Anyway i'll keep searching for a fix, strange all the same
thou, the mouse buttons work just cant move the mouse :?

Thanks for the advice, the reason i swapped over to -CURRENT was i
couldn't use the nvidia driver with xorg on 5.2.1, the whole system used
to freeze and restart, since using current it has been fine, im not
recompiling my tree all the time thou as its stable atm and i want to
keep it that way :)
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Re: FreeBSD and MySQL - mysqld eats CPU alive

[Alasdair Lumsden]

On Sun, 2004-08-01 at 04:08, adp wrote: 
> FreeBSD 4.4, 4.7, 4.9, 4.10
> MySQL 3.x and 4.x
> Typical load: 50 qps
> With and without replication enabled.
> Some sites are SELECT heavy, some are INSERT heavy.
> 
> For one site I think we will be moving from FreeBSD to Linux for the MySQL
> servers since MySQL seems to run like a champ on Linux. We will continue to
> use FreeBSD for everything else.
> 
> Anyone experienced this problem? Is it mysqld or FreeBSD? I can't pinpoint
> the exact issue.

We've got MySQL running on several FreeBSD servers here, some doing 100
qps+, and have had no problems what so ever. We've been using MySQL 3
and 4 on FreeBSD since FreeBSD 4.5 upwards.

Here is an example status output from one of our servers:

# /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysqladmin -u root -p status
Enter password:
Uptime: 1271242  Threads: 8  Questions: 76203621  Slow queries: 370 
Opens: 2461857  Flush tables: 2  Open tables: 511  Queries per second
avg: 59.944


You haven't mentioned the source of your MySQL installs. Are you using
MySQL from ports, packages, or a binary or source distribution from the
MySQL website?

We compile MySQL from source using the following:

setenv CFLAGS "-O3 -mpentiumpro"
setenv CXX gcc
setenv CXXFLAGS "-O3 -mpentiumpro -felide-constructors -fno-exceptions
-fno-rtti -DEAPI"
./configure --prefix=/usr/local/mysql
--localstatedir=/usr/local/mysql/var
--with-unix-socket-path=/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock
--with-client-ldflags=-all-static --with-mysqld-ldflags=-all-static
--enable-assembler


You also haven't mentioned specifically what happens when there is a
problem.. You say the machine becomes unresponsive.. what happens if the
queries die down, does the box become responsive again?

The only thing I can think of causing this is if queries start to come
in faster than the box can process - they will build up and up until the
machine, as you say, becomes unresponsive. This would indicate some form
of bottleneck somewhere.

Monitoring the output of "systat -vmstat" might give some clues as to
whats going on.

I would certainly investigate the cause of this before abandoning
FreeBSD. Any threads on google relating to FreeBSD and MySQL not working
together are vastly inaccurate or out of date.

There are some performance issues with MySQL on FreeBSD 4 with regards
to threading. Try using MySQL linked against LinuxThreads, which should
give a performance boost. You can specify -DWITH_LINUXTHREADS when
installing from ports.

We have a test box running FreeBSD 5.2.1 with MySQL 4, linked against
the new kse threading library, which should in theory provide
performance comparable/superior to MySQL on a linux box. This box has
been completely stable - no MySQL or FreeBSD lockups or crashes.

Given that 5.3 and -STABLE are due out soon, it might be worth waiting
for those, rather than switching to Linux.

However we, and many many other people, run high load MySQL
installations on FreeBSD without problem, so I would say your problems
are specific to your setup, and not something that is a widespread
issue.

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Re: Installing PHP/MySQL (was no subject)

[Brian McCann]

The way I typically do it is install MySQL from the ports tree, then
install PHP from the ports tree.  While installing PHP,  it will ask
what options you want to compile into it.  Just check to make sure you
tell it MySQL and you'll be all set.

--Brian

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> Hi,
> 
> I am very new to BSD and web servers and have just recently installed the latest 5.2 
> version. I have installed Apache 1.3 from the FreeBSD ftp site and have added 
> mod_dav successfully.  The web server and webDAV are working fine. I now want to add 
> php4 and mySQL capabilities. I have read some of the latest mail and am confused as 
> to how to best go about it.  I have never used php or mySQL before nor have I had it 
> installed on a web server. What packages and in what sequence , if any, should I 
> install ?  Also,  what does the number 20020429 at the end 
> (/usr/local/lib/php/20020429 )  signify?  Thanks in advance for your help!
> 
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Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installer

[Bill Moran]

DK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > My bootup is fine, its the BSD+wmaker running & opening nedit & a cmd
> > > prompts that are slower than Windows 2000 ?? any suggestions as to why ??
> > 
> > You're probably using X11 with a "vesa" driver or something that doesn't
> > take advantage of all the accelerations that your hardware can provide.
> 
> Hi Giorgos,
> 
> Where do I look to see which driver X11 is using ???
> 
> And if it is using a "vesa" driver, how do I change that to a driver that is
> specific to my hardware: ie. 16MB Creative Graphics Blaster Riva TNT  ???

check /etc/X11/XF86Config ... that's where the config for XFree is.

To change it, you can either re-run one of the XFree cofiguration
programs, or manually edit that file.  xf86config is one such program.
You can also run "X -xf86config " to have XFree automagically
create a config file based on what it probes, but if it's incorrectly
detecting your hardware, that could be the problem you're having now.

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Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installer

[Bill Moran]

DK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > My bootup is fine, its the BSD+wmaker running & opening nedit & a cmd
> > > prompts
> > > that are slower than Windows 2000 ?? any suggestions as to why ??
> > My FreeBSD system, using Gnome (which is a system hog) is faster than when
> > Windows NT was installed ... and I _KNOW_ NT is faster than W2K.  So, if
> > you're honestly having speed problems, then something is wrong.
> > 
> > So, you need to do the proper steps to figure out what's wrong with your
> > system.  Have you pasted a dmesg?  My first guess would be that your
> > hardware is a little off, and Windows has drivers for it but FreeBSD
> > doesn't, thus you get expected performance on Windows, but crap on
> > FreeBSD.
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> Apologies if I come across as trolling. I guess I had too high an expectation
> as to what I expected FBSD to be able to do. I will refrain from doing
> comparisons with Windows as that seems to just annoy people.

It's not comparisons to Windows that piss people off, it's coming on to
the list with statements like "What the fuck is wrong that FreeBSD sucks
so much compared to Windows" that piss off people who have put a ton of
their time into FreeBSD.

If you seriously want to help a _volunteer_ project, it's best to take
a tone of "I'm seeing X, how can I help improve it"

If you just want someone to fix it for you, you can still use FreeBSD.
Consider sponsoring a developer to tackle your problem.  Donations
through the FreeBSD Foundation are usually tax-deductable.  Last I checked,
no money you sent to Microsoft was tax-deductable.

> As for dmesg, I will run that tonight & post that. I assume I type: dmesg -a

Just "dmesg" will do ... cut/paste into an email.

Also, when you say "slower" you need to be more specific.  How long does
it take?  What part of using the app is slow?

> > Also, are you saying that you run nedit on both Windows and FreeBSD and it's
> > faster on Windows?  Or are you comparing nedit to an apple?
> 
> I run Nedit on FBSD & Emeditor on Windows which is much more GUI color
> intensive & has many more functions than Nedit. Again, EmEditor on Windows
> loads & runs "much faster" then Nedit on FBSD. As you said, it may be that
> FBSD
> has defaulted hardware for my box that is incorrect.

Only thing I can say here is that you're comparing Apples to Oranges.
Never having used EmEditor, I can't say whether it's got more features
than nedit or not, but it's still apples to oranges.  Run EmEditor on
FreeBSD and see how it compares.

> > Also, have you monitored various system "stuff"?  Run top, systat, etc
> > while starting the programs in an attempt to isolate the bottleneck.
> 
> If there is any other particular diagnostic programs on FBSD that you want me
> to run & post the details that may help identify my slow performance please
> let
> me know ??
> 
> I haven't run top or systat, but I will run them tonight.

You need to run/monitor those programs _while_ you are doing the things
that seem slow to you.  They will tell you where the holdup is.

Also, make sure your networking is configured properly.  FreeBSD will be
slow if it's trying to do (for example) DNS lookup and DNS is slow or
improperly configured.  You'd be surprised how many programs try to do
DNS lookups while they're running.

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Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installer package like this ???

[Bill Moran]

Joshua Tinnin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > 2) I deleted the installed package xfce4, then added it again but xfce4
> > still won't start. Is the warnings(about versions) given when I add the
> > package(below) a cause of why it won't start ???
> >
> > 127# pkg_add xfce4-wm-4.0.5.tgz
> > pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'jpeg-6b_3', but
> > 'jpeg-6b_2' is installed
> 
> 
> 
> You need to upgrade the dependencies, as the ones you have are out of date. 
> AFAIK pkg_add is supposed to take care of dependencies, but I almost never 
> use it, prefering to build from source using the ports collection: 
> # cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 && make install clean
> 
> However, if you still want to use packages instead of source, I'm pretty sure 
> if you use the -r flag with pkg_add it will auto-fetch-and-install the 
> dependencies you need, as -r signifies to fetch the package remotely - i.e., 
> pkg_add -r xfce4 (I just tried this with another package, and it installed 
> the dependencies for it).

Look also at portupgrade, which can be used to upgrade jpeg-6b_2 to jpeg-6b_3.

It's a seperate package right now, but it'll probably be part of the base
system soon.

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Re: GNOME on FreeBSD

[Simon Barner]

Vlad Tudorache wrote:
> I'm using kdm as Display Manager with FreeBSD. If I select a GNOME
> session as root and then try to restart/shutdown from GNOME the system
> hangs (until I press Ctrl-Alt-Del, when reboot sequence continues
> normally). How can I avoid this?

Can you switch to a text console (press CTRL+ALT+F1 multiple times)?
If so, login, and run `ps -U ' to
see whether there are hanging processes.

Simon


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Re: Mozilla builds 4.10 vs. 5.2

[Louis LeBlanc]

On 07/31/04 07:56 AM, Joshua Tinnin sat at the `puter and typed:
> On Saturday 31 July 2004 06:49 am, Louis LeBlanc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > Hey all.  I'm finishing up my RELENG_5_2 box, hoping to swap it in
> > tomorrow, and I'm a little confused.
> >
> > Mozilla 1.7 seems to build just fine in 4.10, but claims to be broken
> > in 5.2.  It seems to have a problem with Calendar support.
> >
> > While poking through the ports directory, I noticed that there are 2
> > index files (INDEX and INDEX-5).  Now I haven't really researched this
> > yet, so feel free to point out the FM if that's discussed somewhere.
> >
> > My question though, is whether anyone has managed to get Mozilla
> > building without hacking up the Makefile (which still only gives the
> > Mozilla browser, nothing else).
> 
> I'm running 5.2.1 and built Mozilla 1.7.1 very recently. It built and works 
> fine, and I didn't mess with the Makefile, but I don't use the calendar in 
> Mozilla.

I've updated my ports, and I still get just the browser - but only if
I hack the Makefile.  I've taken all Mozilla configs out of my
make.conf too.

I get a config screen on 4.10, but not on 5.2.1.  Is there some
package that is required to display the config?

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Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installer package like this ???

[Joshua Tinnin]

On Sunday 01 August 2004 06:32 am, Joshua Tinnin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> On Sunday 01 August 2004 04:48 am, DK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
>
> I'm not sure about your automount and Apache problems, but I can help with
> the others ...
>
> > 1) Trying to search for a file I get the error:
> >
> > 127# locate mysql
> > locate: database too small: /var/db/locate.database
>
> This is because the locate db is built from a weekly cron job, which
> probably hasn't run yet on your new install. You can run this manually if
> you want: # sh /usr/src/etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate

Whoops! Sorry, that points to the source and won't work. You should do this 
instead:

# sh /etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate

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Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installer package like this ???

[Joshua Tinnin]

On Sunday 01 August 2004 04:48 am, DK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I'm not sure about your automount and Apache problems, but I can help with the 
others ...

> 1) Trying to search for a file I get the error:
>
> 127# locate mysql
> locate: database too small: /var/db/locate.database

This is because the locate db is built from a weekly cron job, which probably 
hasn't run yet on your new install. You can run this manually if you want:
# sh /usr/src/etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate

> 2) I deleted the installed package xfce4, then added it again but xfce4
> still won't start. Is the warnings(about versions) given when I add the
> package(below) a cause of why it won't start ???
>
> 127# pkg_add xfce4-wm-4.0.5.tgz
> pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'jpeg-6b_3', but
> 'jpeg-6b_2' is installed



You need to upgrade the dependencies, as the ones you have are out of date. 
AFAIK pkg_add is supposed to take care of dependencies, but I almost never 
use it, prefering to build from source using the ports collection: 
# cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 && make install clean

However, if you still want to use packages instead of source, I'm pretty sure 
if you use the -r flag with pkg_add it will auto-fetch-and-install the 
dependencies you need, as -r signifies to fetch the package remotely - i.e., 
pkg_add -r xfce4 (I just tried this with another package, and it installed 
the dependencies for it).

- jt
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Re: Claiming that the list's e-mail showed up on her TV

[Ed Budd]

3BSD wrote:
I think anyone who replies to that address is getting subscribed to a
spam list. Please don't reply.
-3BSD
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Re: Receiving your address on my tv

[Ed Budd]

sylvia bowman wrote:
I am receiving your email address on my television screen.  It happens late on 
Saturday evenings.  Can you address this situation, please.  Sylvia Bowman

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RE: Firewall Rule Set not allowing access to DNS servers?

[James A. Coulter]

I changed the DNS rules as you suggested, and the firewall works perfectly -
thanks very much.

This has been a great learning experience for me - thanks to all who
responded.

Jim C

> -Original Message-
> From: JJB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 1:08 PM
> To: James A. Coulter; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Firewall Rule Set not allowing access to DNS servers?
> 
> 
> Look back at the ipfw sample rule set and you will see that 
> there are both udp and tcp protocol access to DSN. Also not 
> that udp does not use setup keyword.
> 
> # Allow out access to my ISP's Domain name server.
> # x.x.x.x must be the IP address of your ISP's DNS
> # Dup these lines if your ISP has more than one DNS server
> # Get the IP addresses from /etc/resolv.conf file
> $cmd 00110 allow tcp from any to x.x.x.x 53 out via $pif 
> setup keep-state $cmd 00111 allow udp from any to x.x.x.x 53 
> out via $pif keep-state
> 
> You DNS rules are
> # Allow out access to my ISP's Domain name server.
> # x.x.x.x must be the IP address of your ISP's DNS
> # Dup these lines if your ISP has more than one DNS server
> # Get the IP addresses from /etc/resolv.conf file
> $cmd 020 $skip UDP from any to 68.105.161.20 53 out via $pif 
> setup keep-state $cmd 021 $skip UDP from any to 68.1.18.25 53 
> out via $pif setup keep-state $cmd 022 $skip UDP from any to 
> 68.10.16.30 53 out via $pif setup keep-state
> 
> As you can see you have no tcp protocol statements.
> Your  udp rules use setup keyword which is only for tcp rules 
> so your udp packets never match this rule and default to 
> getting blocked which is why you get log error messages and 
> you can not access public internet.
> 
> Also if you look closely at the first 4 ipfw log messages you 
> will see first message is about ip address 193.0.14.129 which is the
> primary dns server pointed to by url search pn.at.cox.net   in
> /etc/resolv.conf
> 
> Change your DNS rules to look like this
> 
> # Allow out access to my ISP's Domain name server.
> # x.x.x.x must be the IP address of your ISP's DNS
> # Dup these lines if your ISP has more than one DNS server
> # Get the IP addresses from /etc/resolv.conf file
> $cmd 020 $skip udp from any to 193.0.14.129 53 out via $pif 
> keep-state $cmd 021 $skip udp from any to 68.1.18.25 53 out 
> via $pif keep-state $cmd 022 $skip udp from any to 
> 68.10.16.30 53 out via $pif keep-state $cmd 023 $skip udp 
> from any to 68.105.161.20 53 out via $pif keep-state $cmd 024 
> $skip tcp  from any to 193.0.14.129 53 out via $pif setup 
> keep-state $cmd 025 $skip tcp  from any to 68.1.18.25 53 out 
> via $pif  setup keep-state $cmd 026 $skip tcp  from any to 
> 68.10.16.30 53 out via $pif  setup keep-state $cmd 027 $skip 
> tcp  from any to 68.105.161.20 53 out via $pif  setup keep-state
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
> James A. Coulter
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 1:09 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Firewall Rule Set not allowing access to DNS servers?
> 
> My LAN is configured with static IP addresses, 192.168.1.x.
> 
> I have no problems communicating within the LAN.
> 
> I have full connectivity with the internet from every machine 
> on my LAN when the firewall is open.
> 
> When I use the rule set in question, I can ping and send mail 
> but I cannot access the DNS servers listed in resolv.conf.
> 
> These are the same DNS servers placed in resolv.conf when the 
> firewall is open.
> 
> I'm sorry, but I never said dc1 was my inside nic.
> 
> Again, I appreciate any help with this.  The files you 
> requested follow.
> 
> Here's my ifconfig - a:
> 
> sara# ifconfig -a
> dc0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
> inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
> inet6 fe80::204:5aff:fe76:55f0%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
> ether 00:04:5a:76:55:f0
> media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX )
> status: active
> dc1: flags=8843 mtu 1500
> inet6 fe80::2a0:ccff:fe33:e1f6%dc1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
> inet 68.105.58.150 netmask 0xfe00 broadcast 68.105.59.255
> ether 00:a0:cc:33:e1:f6
> media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX )
> status: active
> lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500
> lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384
> inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
> inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4
> inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00
> ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500
> sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552
> faith0: flags=8002 mtu 1500
> 
> Here's resolv.conf:
> 
> sara# more /etc/resolv.conf
> search pn.at.cox.net
> nameserver 68.105.161.20
> nameserver 68.1.18.25
> nameserver 68.10.16.30
> 
> Here's the entire rule set I'm trying to use.
> 
> I did follow the comments.
> 
> Please note the variable pif is set to dc1, my outside nic.
> 
>  Start of IPFW rules file 
> ### # Flush out the list before 
> we begin. ipfw -q -f flush # Set

Re: Newbie Problems with cvsup and updating files.

[Bill Moran]

Morten Liebach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 2004-08-01 00:23:01 -0400, Paul R Culmo wrote:
> > On Sat, 31 Jul 2004, Bill Moran wrote:
> > > Yes, I think your supfile is wrong.
> > 
> > > > *default release=cvs RELENG_5_2_1_RELEASE
> > > 
> > > ^^^ This line is what I believe is wrong, replace it with these two
> > > lines:
> > > *default release=cvs
> > > *default tag=RELENG_5_2_1_RELEASE
> > > 
> > > Although I would recommend tag=RELENG_5_2_1, but that's you're call.
> 
> It's RELENG_5_2, not RELENG_5_2_1

Oops ... sorry about that.  Yeah, trying to grab RELENG_5_2_1 would result
in your entire src tree being deleted, since there is not such branch.

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Re: Quake3 & mouse, silly i know

[Jorn Argelo]

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On Sunday 01 August 2004 13:51, Glyn Tebbutt wrote:
> Hi all
> i've finally had success with installing freebsd, running -CURRENT  &
> xorg solid now, very pleased indeed. So now im just build my system,
> with the apps i use etc etc but i have a question, to test the GL out of
> my nvidia card *which is perfect actually* i tried quake3, the only
> problem i have is, my mouse doesn't seem to want to work it wont grab
> it, its a silly question i know, i have search google but havn't found
> anything relating
> Thanks everyone

Perhaps you should start Quake3 from the command line to see if it spits out 
any errors regarding your mouse. I played UT2003 on FreeBSD as well, and that 
worked just fine with the mouse.

Do note that CURRENT has the bleeding-edge kernel sources, which are often 
considered as very instable. If you're not a developer, you will probably be 
better of with a RELEASE (5.2.1) or STABLE (4.10) version of FreeBSD. 

Cheers,

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Re: support 64 bit CPU

[Matthew Seaman]

On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 07:32:01PM +0800, adrian kok wrote:

> Can freebsd run on 64 bit CPU?

Yes.  Take your pick of AMD64, UltraSparc, Alpha, IA64 and then
there's a bunch of other architectures "in progress", including MIPS
and PPC.

But I'm perplexed as to why you need to ask here when this information
is displayed quite prominently right on the front page of the FreeBSD
website.

Cheers,

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Re: support 64 bit CPU

[Rus Foster]

On Sun, 1 Aug 2004, [iso-8859-1] adrian kok wrote:
Hi all
Can freebsd run on 64 bit CPU?
Thank you very much
Which 64bit CPU?
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support 64 bit CPU

[adrian kok]

Hi all

Can freebsd run on 64 bit CPU?

Thank you very much

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GNOME on FreeBSD

[Vlad Tudorache]

I'm using kdm as Display Manager with FreeBSD. If I select a GNOME session as root and 
then try to restart/shutdown from GNOME the system hangs (until I press Ctrl-Alt-Del, 
when reboot sequence continues normally). How can I avoid this?
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Can i mount a FAT32 partion while boot from live cd(Disc 2)?

[hong yu]

Hi , everyone
Can i mount a FAT32 partion while boot from live cd(Disc 2)?




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Re: bandwidth question

[adrian kok]

Hi 

Can you tell me in details?

I need the bandwidth software to create graph in 1G

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Curious question about FreeBSD's TCP/IP and SMP locking

[Patrick Dung]

Hi

After browsing the *BSD cvsweb site, I have found that
FreeBSD-current's TCPIP code has added locking/mutex
in it.

I am not programmer but I want to know what is the use
of adding so much locks/mutex in the stack? Also,
would it make a newbie/beginner feel difficult to
understand the code (I mean the TCP/IP part)?

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Quake3 & mouse, silly i know

[Glyn Tebbutt]

Hi all
i've finally had success with installing freebsd, running -CURRENT  &
xorg solid now, very pleased indeed. So now im just build my system,
with the apps i use etc etc but i have a question, to test the GL out of
my nvidia card *which is perfect actually* i tried quake3, the only
problem i have is, my mouse doesn't seem to want to work it wont grab
it, its a silly question i know, i have search google but havn't found
anything relating
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Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installer package like this ???

[DK]

--- Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh come on, I consider autorunning of removable media a security risk.  You
> like it and try to present the opposite behavior as a fault.  I don't think
> there is any case we can agree on this point.  The best we can do about it
> is help you install amd, the automounter daemon and let us all live in peace
> :P

Hi Giorgos,

I understand your point & why MS have autorun on by default. Because a lot of
newbies to Windows don't even know what/where setup.exe is to start a program.
So to make it easier to install Office after Windows has been installed, AR is
on by default. I agree with you though, autorun(NOT automount) IS a security
risk & I have have it disabled.



> > > Is it so hard to edit a text file like rc.conf and add a simple line
> > > like this?
> > >
> > > amd_enable="YES"

I edited rc.conf & added the line: amd_enable="YES"


However, my devices(Floppy & CDROM) are not automounting after logging in or
starting X  ???

In the process view of BSD, I have amd as waiting

Trying to understand man amd isn't helping. Any ideas ???



I have some other problems as well:

1) Trying to search for a file I get the error:

127# locate mysql
locate: database too small: /var/db/locate.database



2) I deleted the installed package xfce4, then added it again but xfce4 still
won't start. Is the warnings(about versions) given when I add the
package(below) a cause of why it won't start ???

127# pkg_add xfce4-wm-4.0.5.tgz
pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'jpeg-6b_3', but
'jpeg-6b_2' is installed
pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'python-2.3.4', but
'python-2.3.3_5' is installed
pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'png-1.2.5_5', but
'png-1.2.5_3' is installed
pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'glib-2.4.2', but
'glib-2.4.0' is installed
pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'shared-mime-info-0.14_3',
but 'shared-mime-info-0.14_2' is installed
pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'pango-1.4.0_1', but
'pango-1.4.0' is installed
pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'gtk-2.4.3_1', but
'gtk-2.4.0' is installed
pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'startup-notification-0.7',
but 'startup-notification-0.6' is installed



3)I am trying to install Apachetoolbox-1.5.70(it may well be a BigApache for
BSD :)) - but I get the errors "Command not found" trying to run it:

127# pwd
/usr/ports/distfiles/Apachetoolbox-1.5.70
127# ls
CHANGE  MIRROR  bin etc src
INSTALL README  contrib install.sh
127# ./install. sh
./install.: Command not found.
127# ./install sh
./install: Command not found.
127# ./install 
./install: Command not found.


then I tried using bash after reading:
Install
=-=-=-=
1) as root run ./install.sh
**
Solaris/BSD users, the script interpreter of install.sh is BASH (/bin/bash).
Bash should be used, YMMV if you change it to /bin/sh.
**



127# bash
bash-2.05# pwd
/usr/ports/distfiles/Apachetoolbox-1.5.70
bash-2.05# ls
CHANGE  MIRROR  bin etc src
INSTALL README  contrib install.sh
bash-2.05# ./install
bash: ./install: No such file or directory
bash-2.05# ./install.sh
bash: ./install.sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
bash-2.05# ./install   
bash: ./install: No such file or directory



Any ideas to these 3 last problems ???


Kind Regards,

DK




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