Re: X Configuration Woes
Some updates: Following this I did a fresh install using the FreeBSD6.1 CD1. Xorg installed is 6.9.0. I did not run xorgconfig or anything. There was no /etc/X11/xorg.conf either. From the command-line I ran xdm and the GUI started ... I could login ... and then that's about it. 1. The Mouse still does not work ... may be I should try MouseSystems protocol. I can't say much about the mouse. I usually let it figure out things itself and it works. Is it a plain ps2 mouse (with round ps2 connector)? I just do the mouse test during sysinstall and it works. Well, well ... sometimes I feel these days being a Linux user is no big deal. May be it never was but at least in the old days, by being a Linux user, I used to be more aware of what goes inside my box and what lights blink to tell what story. These days, Linux ... should I say most of the distros rather, make you feel like a pampered fuzzy user ... you really don't need to know an awful lot more about your box to get a fully functional system than you need to install M$ Window$. Some like it that way, but for me the fun is lost ... perhaps _the_ reason why I switched to FreeBSD ... anything comparable could do for me but I just happened to get my hands on these couple of ISOs. 2. What should I do about GNOME / KDE etc. I am not aching to get a jazzy a GUI on my FreeBSD installation. I can make do with a very minimal one. But I want a minimal one at least now, I just have to get this running or I can't sleep. If you don't want a fancy GUI desktop, then skip KDE and Gnome. I prefer to use Afterstep. It installs nicely. It is found in ports at/usr/ports/x11-wm/afterstep It can be a little confusing at first to set up and configure - as are all X things - but after getting it configured for me, it gives me what I need: several windows for logging in to various hosts, a button to bring up Firefoxand X support for whatever I run, such as OpenOffice or Xpdf or Xmahjongg and a couple of other games, etc. The only thing I haven't managed to my liking is getting it to create anchor buttons for each thing when I bring it up. It only does so for the minimized windows. I got that in one version, but it seemed to mess up the focus control and click to bring forward action so I gave up on that. I edited: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc to make it work my way. I think you can make individual .xinitrc files in home directories as well, but I wanted mine to work for all of my small handful of accounts so I edited the main one. I am tired of these two lookalikes ... KDE and GNOME. They weren't in the olden days ... but they have undergone some serious plastic surgery of late and now I don't like the taste of either. So XFCE or Afterstep would be welcome changes. As another poster mentioned Ratpoison, I would be keen to find out about it too ... since it has been dubbed for being keyboard friendly. I hate mice. Have fun, You bet I am having fun. I am writing a blog article on why I picked up FreeBSD. You can find it after a while on my sparse blog http://shoddykid.blogspot.com. jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Freebsd as iscsi / aoe target (server)
Hi there,
can FreeBSD be used as an iSCSI target (i.e., serving the iscsi disks) ?
idem AoE ...?
thanks!
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Re: SATA sil problems ...
On 9/12/06, Michał Garcarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I have SATA SIL 3112 controller. Unfortunately it is not working correctly under FreeBSD. It does not work for me, and i found on google that it doesn't work correctly for many other people. I tried Freebsd 4.x, 5.x and 6.1. Here are the errors which occur when system works: Sep 12 11:03:35 multix kernel: ad6: WARNING - SETFEATURES SET TRANSFER MODE taskqueue timeout - completing request directly Sep 12 11:03:35 multix kernel: ad6: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=8159967 Sep 12 11:55:36 multix kernel: ad4: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=40UNCORRECTABLE LBA=8878591 Sep 12 11:55:36 multix kernel: ar0: WARNING - mirror protection lost. RAID1 array in DEGRADED mode Sep 12 11:55:36 multix kernel: ar0: writing of Silicon Image Medley metadata is NOT supported yet Do You have similar problems ? Please try to disable its RAID capabilities, and tweak some compatibility settings, if any. Sil3112 is known to be crap, but it's also known to work for many FreeBSD 6.x users. What SATA controller could you suggest ? I must be on card (PCI?) so i could plug in to my current server. It have to work stable under Freebsd 6.1. It should be chip. It doesn't have to be real hardware RAID (it can use software from BIOS). Don't use software RAID from BIOS, use gmirror/gstripe/gvinum. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jdk -- jar directory traversal vulnerability (CVE-2005-1080).
On 9/13/06, Jacques Vidrine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2006-09-12, at 13:52:40, Remko Lodder wrote: David Robillard wrote: Hi everyone, Are there any workaround or a patch for this security problem? FreeBSD Foundation's Java JDK and JRE 5.0 Update 7 binaries for FreeBSD 6.1/i386: Affected package: diablo-jdk-freebsd6.i386.1.5.0.07.00 Type of problem: jdk -- jar directory traversal vulnerability. Reference: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/18e5428f- ae7c-11d9-837d-000e0c2e438a.html Many thanks, David Hello david, I corrected the entry, it should be fixed within little notice :) Hey, hold on a second... are you sure this has been fixed? As far as I know, Sun has never issues a patch for this vulnerability. Yay Sun! http://www.freshports.org/java/jdk15/[EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD != Sun ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NIC Questions for 6.1 Release
Chris wrote: On Sep 12, 2006, at 3:12 PM, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: Chris wrote: Is there any single source where one can go to see what has been changed on the various components of the OS. Go to the source :-) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ Wow! That's an excellent resource and the bge driver does have numerous changes that all dance around or on the same issues. It appears they've been being addressed for months. Supporting that, two people have responded and said both a Tyan and several IBMs are working perfectly with the Broadcom. Based on the 6.1-RELEASE-p6 AMD64 system I did yesterday (a different server), I didn't see any of these changes on the source date for if_bge.c. I'm guessing this has to do with how I cvsup and the fact that I remain tracking only 6.1-RELEASE. I used: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6_1 in the supfile and these changes are not pulled under that tag. How does one approach that, set the tag to RELENG_6 which does grab these. From the handbook it seems to recommend not moving forward from a RELEASE for a production type of implementation. How does one grab specific changes to a driver without actually cvsupping to that entire revision or am I missing something really basic and I should be using the RELENG_6 tag for my production servers? It really looks like that's the version of the bge driver I should be using. If you click on if_bge.c (which I guess you did to see all the comments), you'll see above each comment a Branch: which tells you where the changes have been committed. E.g. Revision *1.91.2.17* http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c?rev=1.91.2.17content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup / (*download* http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/%7Echeckout%7E/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c?rev=1.91.2.17content-type=text/plain) - annotate http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c?annotate=1.91.2.17 - [select for diffs] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c?r1=1.91.2.17, /Thu Sep 7 08:49:10 2006 UTC/ (6 days, 2 hours ago) by /oleg/ Branch: *RELENG_6 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c?only_with_tag=RELENG_6 * Changes since *1.91.2.16: +24 -5 lines* Diff to previous 1.91.2.16 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c.diff?r1=1.91.2.16r2=1.91.2.17 (colored http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c.diff?r1=1.91.2.16r2=1.91.2.17f=h) to branchpoint 1.91 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c.diff?r1=1.91r2=1.91.2.17 (colored http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c.diff?r1=1.91r2=1.91.2.17f=h) next main 1.92 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c.diff?r1=1.92r2=1.91.2.17 (colored http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c.diff?r1=1.92r2=1.91.2.17f=h) MFC rev. 1.140 Properly lock ifmedia callbacks. This should prevent concurrent access to PHY. Following issues should be resolved: - random watchdog timeouts (caused by concurrent phy access) - some link state issues - non working TX if media type was set explicitly PR: kern/98738 http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=98738 which looks like one you'd want! You'll see the tag is RELENG_6 so yes you will need to cvsup to this (aka 6-STABLE) to get those changes. Presumably the changes will make it to 6.2-RELEASE, so you could switch to tracking that when it comes out. I would be wary of actively tracking a production server with STABLE. If you upgrade to STABLE now and it works, just leave it unless there are security patches. At least one change is to HEAD/Main which is aka 7-CURRENT. That would be risky for a production box. Alternatively you could just try downloading the two files and copying them over your existing ones (after backing them up!) and just try and see if a make buildkernel will compile them. If the changes don't rely on anything outside of these two files, you'd likely be fine. Of course, keep a copy of your current working kernel in e.g. /boot/kernel.works. --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow install of Ruby 18 from ports
On 9/12/06, Olivier Nicole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am upgrading a few servers. I have noticed that on pentium III, it takes a VERY long time to upgrade Ruby 1.8. It blocks at some stage saying: zlib.c: mcc... Generating RI... Eventually it will finich installing. I am running RELENG 4.11 p21. Any clue? Old FreeBSD on old hardware is a recipe for such problems. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATA driver
On 9/12/06, Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone ported the ata drivers with SATA support back to 4.x? It is doable or are there some new kernel structures that won't port? It is not worth the trouble. Disk subsystem has undergone some massive performance improvement since 4.x, so you should consider upgrading to 6.x if your tasks involve newer sata disks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ipfw - bandwidth throttling (sanity check!)
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 06:25, Odhiambo Washington wrote: * On 12/09/06 22:13 +0100, RW wrote: | On Tuesday 12 September 2006 20:49, Odhiambo Washington wrote: | Hello Security guy ;) | | I have tried very hard to understand ipfw just for the purpose of | bandwidth throttling for smtp service. | | Basically, I want to throttle the bandwidth used by my SMTP | server outbound to _anyone_ else except my ip blocks. | | My Server is 1.2.3.4 and my ip blocks are a.b.c.d/19 and | e.f.g.h/20 | | | Are the following rules sane enough? | | ipfw pipe 1 config bw 256Kbit/s | ipfw add pipe 1 tcp from 1.2.3.4 to not a.b.c.d/19 25 | ipfw add pipe 1 tcp from 1.2.3.4 to not e.f.g.h/20 25 | | This queues all outgoing smtp to the pipe. | | You also need to set net.inet.ip.fw.one_pass=1 to avoid the packets | re-entering the rules on the next line. Setting that means that the | packets cannot pass through dynamic rules. It is possible to use dynamic | rules with dummynet, but it's a pain. Thank you so much for clarifying that. What I wanted to be clarified is if it is true that smtp traffic to a.b.c.d/19 and e.f.g.h/20 is NOT being put through this pipe.. The logic you have is: (NOT in range a.b.c.d/19) OR (NOT in range e.f.g.h/20) what you want is: NOT ( in range a.b.c.d/19 OR in range e.f.g.h/2 ) I'm a bit rusty with IPFW, but you can probably specify multiple address blocks in one statement - have a look at the man page. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel panic with 5.5, possibly in propagate_priority
Hello! Last October, after I upgraded the OS on my IBM x225 from RELENG_5_3 to RELENG_5_4, I experienced a kernel panic: http://makeashorterlink.com/?S167211CD As noted in the article referenced above, I disabled debug.mpsafenet and debug.mpsafevm. This was really just a guess. Seems like the guess was lucky, because I never had another kernel panic after that. Yesterday I upgraded this server from RELENG_5_4 to RELENG_5_5 and decided to try to re-enable debug.mpsafenet and debug.mpsafevm. Today in the middle of the day I got a kernel panic. As also promised in the article above, I had built the debug kernel and enabled kernel crash dumps. However, the machine just seems to freeze when it panics and doesn't really generate a crash dump into the location that I specified in /etc/rc.conf. So I still don't have much very useful debug information. The panic message is pretty similar to the one in the message above: -- kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode cpuid=1; apic id = 06 fault virtual address: 0x24 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc05276ae stack pointer = 0x10:0xe83aab20 frame pointer = 0x10: 0xe83aab48 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 12064 (httpd) trap number = 12 panic: page fault cpuid = 1 spin lock sched lock held by 0xc279c480 for 5 seconds -- Closest... um... thing to the instruction pointer 0xc05276ae seems to be propagate_priority: [heerold] ~ nm -n /boot/kernel/kernel | grep c05276 c052762c t propagate_priority I found another thread discussing an issue which seems vaguely similar, but I'm not enough of a FreeBSD kernel expert to be sure: http://makeashorterlink.com/?G457131CD After reading this thread - should I, perhaps, add NO_ADAPTIVE_MUTEXES to my kernel config (and remove ADAPTIVE_GIANT)? What are other people's experiences running FreeBSD 5.x on dual-processor IBM xSeries 225 box? Am I the only one doing this? For now, I just disabled debug.mpsafenet and debug.mpsafevm again and I hope it works out as well as it did last time. -- Toomas Aas ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs
Hello Frank, Tuesday, September 12, 2006, 10:41:17 PM, you wrote: snip FS Go grab the compressed, reasonably up to date ports tree: FS $ fetch -dpv ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/ports.tar.gz FS (warning! 35MB compressed) Will do when I have Internet connection via FreeBSD box. Need to set up ADSL connection - am currently reading about that process. Also, need to figure out how USB gets set up properly. But these are two separate issues that I will probably be asking about in the very near future ... if I haven't managed to make any real progress in these areas. FS and: FS # mv ports.tar.gz /usr/ports FS # cd /usr/ports FS # tar xvzf ports.tar.gz FS to build sudo, first check that there's nothing funny with building FS sudo: FS $ cat /usr/ports/UPDATING | grep sudo FS if there's nothing then: FS # cd /usr/ports/security/sudo/ FS # make install clean Thanks for the detailed steps. FS Then read the handbook about keeping your ports tree up to date using FS portsnap or cvsup. Will do. P.S. Please advise what the proper mode of responding is in terms of replying. I did a reply all ... snip FS That's OK. I usually post to the list and cc to the person who posted FS in the first place as they may not be subscribed to the list. Yes, this was my line of thinking, but don't want to upset anyone as I am a newbie here. ;) FS Welcome to FreeBSD! Thanks. Appreciate it, Frank. -- Best regards, ograbme ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X Configuration Woes
I am an absolute FreeBSD Newbie and I decided to give it a try over a lazy weekend - mainly because I don't want to throw away my old PIII box. I picked up FreeBSD 5.4 which was all I got and I am dual booting it with RHEL4.3. My box is rather old ... P3 733 Mhz with 256 megs of [EMAIL PROTECTED], and I installed FreeBSD on the first 6.5 Gigs of my Seagate harddrive ... connected to the Primary master IDE interface. Well, installing FreeBSD for the first time is more compatible with an ambitious weekend than an lazy one - as you probably have discovered. It does take considerable work, though the rewards are commensurate. If you can wade through this gibberish, please help. Cheers, Andy Some updates: Following this I did a fresh install using the FreeBSD6.1 CD1. Xorg installed is 6.9.0. I did not run xorgconfig or anything. There was no /etc/X11/xorg.conf either. From the command-line I ran xdm and the GUI started ... I could login ... and then that's about it. 1. The Mouse still does not work ... may be I should try MouseSystems protocol. More updates: I did manage to get my mouse in a working state. It's an old 3-button Logitech serial mouse. And guess what ... someone (I suspect myself) connected it to the second serial port. All the while I thought it was on /dev/cuad0 and I specified that as the device. Anyway, I reconnected it to /dev/cuad0 and the pointer does move now (I was running Linux all this while but never noticed this ... that's why Linux is becoming Windowy ... may be I am too cynical). I used the microsoft protocol. Still the mouse movements are not smooth all the time. The mouse hardly moves in the console. When I run xdm or startx from the command-line then it does move when X starts. But sometimes after some initial movement, it freezes hopelessly. Don't know what's wrong. I can't say much about the mouse. I usually let it figure out things itself and it works. Is it a plain ps2 mouse (with round ps2 connector)? I just do the mouse test during sysinstall and it works. 2. What should I do about GNOME / KDE etc. I am not aching to get a jazzy a GUI on my FreeBSD installation. I can make do with a very minimal one. But I want a minimal one at least now, I just have to get this running or I can't sleep. If you don't want a fancy GUI desktop, then skip KDE and Gnome. I prefer to use Afterstep. It installs nicely. It is found in ports at/usr/ports/x11-wm/afterstep It can be a little confusing at first to set up and configure - as are all X things - but after getting it configured for me, it gives me what I need: several windows for logging in to various hosts, a button to bring up Firefoxand X support for whatever I run, such as OpenOffice or Xpdf or Xmahjongg and a couple of other games, etc. The only thing I haven't managed to my liking is getting it to create anchor buttons for each thing when I bring it up. It only does so for the minimized windows. I got that in one version, but it seemed to mess up the focus control and click to bring forward action so I gave up on that. I edited: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc to make it work my way. I think you can make individual .xinitrc files in home directories as well, but I wanted mine to work for all of my small handful of accounts so I edited the main one. Have fun, jerry Cheers, Andy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using PC as serial terminal on running system
I'm using my laptop and tip(1) as a serial terminal. This is working well when a machine is booted with the laptop connected to its serial port. However, I need to be able to connect the laptop to a machine which was booted without a serial console. I've set the ttyd0 line in /etc/ttys and sigHUPed init. The machine is still not recognising the presence of the ``serial terminal'' - the getty(1) process on the server is not bound to a controlling terminal and nothing is appearing in the tip(1) screen on the laptop. I've also tried fiddling about with conscontrol, adding ttyd0 on the server - still no difference. Have I missed a trick somewhere, or do I really need to reboot the server to get it to recognise a PC connected as a serial terminal? (Connection is laptop - USB - BAFO 810 USB/serial adapter - null-modem cable - server) Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank You and Mc OS games
Hello in there, I'm kind of complicated person, so finding o good OS was really a pity for me. I googled around a lot, installed a lot and often get disappointed... until I discovered FreeBSD. Folks, this OS ist simply great because it is CLEAR. Clear Structure, clear Doc, clear Policy. But all the guys on this mailing list probably already know this... Now, i have one simple question related to this: where and whom can I tell THANK YOU ? GOOD WORK ? For providing such a great OS. Secondly: beeing miself an ex-gamer, I'm wondering if it is possible to run Mac OS games under FreeBSD. I found no solution on google, so probably there is some reason which cause it NOT working. Could someone just explain me what it this reason ? Thanks a lot, Felix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
some packages not available
Hello, portaudit reports several problems for my 6.1 system, e,g, gnupg 1.4.3 and ruby 1.8.4_8,1. It's recommended that I update or deinstall these packages immediately. The problem is, portupdate -PP I find any newer packages though 1.4.5 of gnupg is already in ports for months. And I'm talking about packages for 6-stable, not 6.1-release. I've set PACKAGESITE and PKG_SITES to the according server (ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable). I know of the pointyhat build farm. And it seems to compile, but I don't see where the results go. Telling from http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/ there are packages being built, but they don't show up on the FreeBSD ftp servers. So the question is: where to get the most recent built packages for my system (here 6.1-RELEASE)? Bye, Juergen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NIC Questions for 6.1 Release
Alex Zbyslaw wrote: Alternatively you could just try downloading the two files and copying them over your existing ones (after backing them up!) and just try and see if a make buildkernel will compile them. If the changes don't rely on anything outside of these two files, you'd likely be fine. Of course, keep a copy of your current working kernel in e.g. /boot/kernel.works. Sorry for the hideous http links in previous email. What *I* saw before I sent it was not what I got. sigh Also, download the RELENG_6 versions of the files if you try this approach. Downloading the HEAD versions would be riskier and more likely to fail. --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA sil problems ...
I also have one of these that doesn't work with FreeBSD. I just replaced the controller. What is worse is there are different versions of this chip some that will work with FreeBSD, but many don't. -Derek At 05:51 AM 9/13/2006, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: On 9/12/06, Micha³ Garcarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I have SATA SIL 3112 controller. Unfortunately it is not working correctly under FreeBSD. It does not work for me, and i found on google that it doesn't work correctly for many other people. I tried Freebsd 4.x, 5.x and 6.1. Here are the errors which occur when system works: Sep 12 11:03:35 multix kernel: ad6: WARNING - SETFEATURES SET TRANSFER MODE taskqueue timeout - completing request directly Sep 12 11:03:35 multix kernel: ad6: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=8159967 Sep 12 11:55:36 multix kernel: ad4: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=40UNCORRECTABLE LBA=8878591 Sep 12 11:55:36 multix kernel: ar0: WARNING - mirror protection lost. RAID1 array in DEGRADED mode Sep 12 11:55:36 multix kernel: ar0: writing of Silicon Image Medley metadata is NOT supported yet Do You have similar problems ? Please try to disable its RAID capabilities, and tweak some compatibility settings, if any. Sil3112 is known to be crap, but it's also known to work for many FreeBSD 6.x users. What SATA controller could you suggest ? I must be on card (PCI?) so i could plug in to my current server. It have to work stable under Freebsd 6.1. It should be chip. It doesn't have to be real hardware RAID (it can use software from BIOS). Don't use software RAID from BIOS, use gmirror/gstripe/gvinum. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pci modem question
Be sure to get a real full modem. Not a winmodem. A full modem will cost considerably more, like double the price because it has all the modem hardware on the card. Winmodems rely on Windows to do much of the hardware functions. -Derek At 09:05 PM 9/12/2006, musashi miyamoto wrote: FreeBSD mori.ranmaru 6.1-STABLE FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Tue Sep 5 02:09:57 PHT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/SHOGUN i386 is there a dialup pci modem that is compatible with FreeBSD? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: device vt causes boot freeze
Anton Shterenlikht [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can I enable both sc and vt in device.hints? My impression from a very brief look at the code is that they cannot be active at the same time. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NIC Questions for 6.1 Release - Obtaining changes not in RELEASE
On Sep 13, 2006, at 4:03 AM, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: Chris wrote: Is there any single source where one can go to see what has been changed on the various components of the OS. Go to the source :-) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ Wow! That's an excellent resource and the bge driver does have numerous changes that all dance around or on the ... Based on the 6.1-RELEASE-p6 AMD64 system I did yesterday (a different server), I didn't see any of these changes on the source date for if_bge.c. I'm guessing this has to do with how I cvsup and the fact that I remain tracking only 6.1-RELEASE. I used: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6_1 in the supfile and these changes are not pulled under that tag. How does one approach that, set the tag to RELENG_6 which does grab these. From the handbook it seems to recommend not moving forward from a RELEASE for a production type of implementation. How does one grab specific changes to a driver without actually cvsupping to that entire revision or am I missing something really basic and I should be using the RELENG_6 tag for my production servers? It really looks like that's the version of the bge driver I should be using. If you click on if_bge.c (which I guess you did to see all the comments), you'll see above each comment a Branch: which tells you where the changes have been committed. E.g. Revision *1.91.2.17* http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/ sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c?rev=1.91.2.17content-type=text/x-cvsweb- markup / (*download* http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/% 7Echeckout%7E/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c?rev=1.91.2.17content- type=text/plain) - annotate http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c?annotate=1.91.2.17 - [select for diffs] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/bge/ if_bge.c?r1=1.91.2.17, /Thu Sep 7 08:49:10 2006 UTC/ (6 days, 2 hours ago) by /oleg/ Branch: *RELENG_6 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/ dev/bge/if_bge.c?only_with_tag=RELENG_6 * Changes since *1.91.2.16: +24 -5 lines* Diff to previous 1.91.2.16 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c.diff?r1=1.91.2.16r2=1.91.2.17 (colored http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/bge/ if_bge.c.diff?r1=1.91.2.16r2=1.91.2.17f=h) to branchpoint 1.91 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/bge/ if_bge.c.diff?r1=1.91r2=1.91.2.17 (colored http:// www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c.diff? r1=1.91r2=1.91.2.17f=h) next main 1.92 http://www.freebsd.org/ cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c.diff?r1=1.92r2=1.91.2.17 (colored http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/bge/ if_bge.c.diff?r1=1.92r2=1.91.2.17f=h) MFC rev. 1.140 Properly lock ifmedia callbacks. This should prevent concurrent access to PHY. Following issues should be resolved: - random watchdog timeouts (caused by concurrent phy access) - some link state issues - non working TX if media type was set explicitly PR: kern/98738 http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=98738 which looks like one you'd want! You'll see the tag is RELENG_6 so yes you will need to cvsup to this (aka 6-STABLE) to get those changes. Presumably the changes will make it to 6.2-RELEASE, so you could switch to tracking that when it comes out. I would be wary of actively tracking a production server with STABLE. If you upgrade to STABLE now and it works, just leave it unless there are security patches. At least one change is to HEAD/Main which is aka 7-CURRENT. That would be risky for a production box. Alternatively you could just try downloading the two files and copying them over your existing ones (after backing them up!) and just try and see if a make buildkernel will compile them. If the changes don't rely on anything outside of these two files, you'd likely be fine. Of course, keep a copy of your current working kernel in e.g. /boot/kernel.works. --Alex Alex, Excellent and detailed information. I read the handbook and Complete FreeBSD but couldn't grasp the relationship between CURRENT, STABLE, and RELEASE and the cvsup tags definitively. This is important when buying new hardware running ahead of RELEASE changes (e.g. the Broadcom 5704). Last time (a then leading edge server with a U320 Adaptec controller), I manually updated the driver source just to get it to production and made my source out of sync and then feared cvsuping further. I think you've given me, in a nutshell, how to do this more responsibly. Let me take a shot at it for posterity. 1. Take the machine to STABLE via RELENG_6, if it tests reliably, go production and freeze 2. security patch through the .asc file patches until RELEASE 6.2 3. cvsup to RELEASE 6.2 aka RELENG_6_2 (when available and if needed hardware changes were indeed incorporated) 4. given no hardware additions, continue to cvsup on RELENG_6_2_0 for Security Patches
package-recursive and methods to quickly rebuild your computer
so ive been playing with my buildserver, and working out the methodology to quickly recover a computer to operational mode. yesterday, i took my buildserver, and began with a 'pkg_delete -a', and then updated my ports tree. i then proceeded to visit each port directory of things my production server runs, and did a 'make install package-recursive', until had a /usr/ports/packages/ directory that was very full of what appears to be invididual packages of each of the things i need on my server. next, i took a test box, and mounted /usr/ports from my build server to this test box, changed to /usr/ports/packages/All, and did a 'pkg_add -v *', and watched as what appeared to be each package this directory install onto my test box. the first thing i decided to test, was apache (2.0.59). apache would fire up, but php would not work well enough to load squirrelmail or something like phpsysinfo. phpsysinfo told me that the xml and pcre exentions are required, but 'pkg_info|grep php5' told me that these extensions were installed. if i do a plain 'pkg_info' on both my build server and test box, they are line for line the same, but some things are obvously not working. first, am i going about this project in the wrong direction? second, what is the proper way to use the packages that have been built from ports, and how do they differ from actually building the port on a system? thanks, jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Top behavior differences
On 2006-09-10 18:04, stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 11:57:05AM -0400, Bob Hall wrote: On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 08:56:31AM -0400, stan wrote: Can someone explain to me why top's handling of multi processor status display is different on FreeBSD, than it is on Linux? Open source started with the concept of individuals hacking the source code to get the features they want. The commericial ideal of users paying for features they want was replaced by the ideal of users doing the work to create the features they want. Open source has evolved into the concept of many users getting a free ride as a relatively small number of open source programmers do the work for them, without pay. Possible reasons why open source software X doesn't have feature Y: -- Long discussion of open source philosophy dleted --- Once upon a time, when people posted on lists like this, they got well reasoned technical answers. The question I was really asking, is if there is a technical reason for this difference (eg difernt sturctures for obatining the information in the 2 OS's). The reason that i feel this is an apropriate place to ask such a question, is that top is NOT a port, but is provided by the base OS in FreeBSD. There are technical reasons. The top(1) utility peeks into kernel structures, such as process lists, memory usage information and other stuff, and our current FreeBSD version has been changed, fixed and augmented with new features as FreeBSD was developed. I doubt that it can run unmodified on Linux. What sort of technical details are you interested in? I've made some changes to top(1) myself, so maybe I can tell you what the differences are if you have something specific in mind :) - Giorgos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: question about fortune at login
David Kelly writes: On Sep 12, 2006, at 9:20 PM, Jonathan Horne wrote: what is the proper way to disable fortune? i deleted the .login file from my homedir... and it still runs at login! Look and see where it is being invoked. That is commonly in .login but could be in any file. If you are using sh or bash it might be coming from .profile.It could also be in .cshrc (for csh or tcsh). Depends on what shell you are using, but with tcsh moving ~/.login to ~/dot.login ended fortune for me via ssh login. What I don't much care for is the large /etc/motd which ships stock with FreeBSD. So that and /etc/hosts are the only files I hack and override manually when using mergemaster. The motd is supposed to be frequently update. It was originally intended for the system manager to post messages to users about whatever was happening to the system - such as a notice that it would be down for maintenance that evening. That is why it was called 'Message Of The Day'. jerry -- David Kelly N4HHE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NIC Questions for 6.1 Release - Obtaining changes not in RELEASE
Chris wrote: Excellent and detailed information. I read the handbook and Complete FreeBSD but couldn't grasp the relationship between CURRENT, STABLE, and RELEASE and the cvsup tags definitively. This is important when buying new hardware running ahead of RELEASE changes (e.g. the Broadcom 5704). Last time (a then leading edge server with a U320 Adaptec controller), I manually updated the driver source just to get it to production and made my source out of sync and then feared cvsuping further. I think you've given me, in a nutshell, how to do this more responsibly. Let me take a shot at it for posterity. RELENG = The official release versions; as well tested as things come. Only get security patches. CURRENT = The very bleeding edge. Updated often. Not recommended for any critical machine. STABLE = Changes that have run well in CURRENT, fix problems or improve performance etc, and are things which will form part of the next RELEASE. Bugs and other issues much less likely than CURRENT. So developed software generally goes from CURRENT (when tested) - STABLE - next RELENG. But, not all software in CURRENT automatically goes to STABLE. CURRENT (right now) is what will be RELENG_7_0, and not all changes there will be suitable for 6. 1. Take the machine to STABLE via RELENG_6, if it tests reliably, go production and freeze 2. security patch through the .asc file patches until RELEASE 6.2 3. cvsup to RELEASE 6.2 aka RELENG_6_2 (when available and if needed hardware changes were indeed incorporated) 4. given no hardware additions, continue to cvsup on RELENG_6_2_0 for Security Patches for server life-cycle This should work fine. In step 4, you can consider upgrading from RELENG_6_2 to RELENG_6_3 etc etc, obviously testing. The more critical a machine, however, the less likely you are to want to do that. If you have any kind of farm, then keeping identical hardware and using one machine as a test bed for any upgrades is also a possible scenario. The farm can be as small as two machines - one a backup for the other, but also usable for testing upgrades. I think it would be technically possible (if unlikely), that a security patch for STABLE might not apply cleanly if you are not running the latest STABLE. In such a case, you might again have to bite the bullet and update to the latest STABLE and test again. This is only likely to happen if the bug is some kind of kernel internal, and even then only if some other code for it in STABLE has changed since you did your upgrade. As I say, I think this would be unlikely. Depending on what the machine in question actually does, how it is firewalled etc, it might be that you don't even bother to apply a security patch. (No doubt some will shout when I say that), but you have to analyse what risk the security whole actually poses to *your machine*. You could always seek advice here if such an issue arises, I think a light is clicking on. Thanks VERY much, You're welcome. --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: device vt causes boot freeze
On 2006 Sep 13, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Anton Shterenlikht [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can I enable both sc and vt in device.hints? My impression from a very brief look at the code is that they cannot be active at the same time. Sorry, what code? But there is definitely no problem in building both sc and pcvt into the kernel, is there? Or is it advisable to make kernel with either sc or pcvt, but not both? The manual does not say the sc and pcvt cannot coexist in the same kernel. But all configuration files I've seen on the net are either with sc or with pcvt, not both. I found that the same behaviour was reported as a bug in 2005 in 5.3-release: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=i386/75887 and is still listed as open. thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Samba and FAM
I have been using Samba 3.x for my Windows file share and printing. I chose not to use FAM as the implementation on FreeBSD seems non-existant (where is the daemon?). So, when I configured Samba, I unchecked the option for FAM. Yet, when it runs, I still see that it is required. Sep 13 03:12:30 fuggle smbd[2898]: FAM file change notifications not available Sep 13 03:12:30 fuggle smbd[2897]: FAM file change notifications not available Sep 13 03:12:30 fuggle smbd[2897]: [2006/09/13 03:12:30, 0] lib/util_sock.c:read_data(534) I considered uninstalling FAM and rebuilding Samba, but, as it turns out, Courier-IMAP requires FAM as a dependency even though it is not a declared dependency in the Makefile. Even though FAM was not selected when building Samba, I am getting the above errors. Is there a way to avoid these filling my log files? Tom Veldhouse ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ath0: Device timeout
I'm trying to get my Atheros 5212 built-in wireless device working on my Toshiba laptop. I used the FreeBSD wireless networking documentation as a guide. My goal was to atleast get it connected to my SSID with no encryption. I was able to load the driver using, kldload if_ath and it detected it. However, when trying to associate it with my WAP and give it a static IP address I got the following error message atho: Device timeout I've Googled high-n-low to find out what the cause of this error is, but every solution I've come across that worked for someone else didn't work for me. Any ideas??? Am I doing something wrong or missing something here?? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sendmail and hosts_access(5)
Hello all, I am attempting to block an SMTP server with /etc/hosts.allow: -- Received: from 241net251.net.zeork.com.pl (241net251.net.zeork.com.pl [194.117.241.251] (may be forged)) -- [506] Tue 12.Sep.2006 20:55:44 [EMAIL PROTECTED] #ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] grep zeork /home/kadmin/spammers .net.zeork.com.pl [507] Tue 12.Sep.2006 20:56:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] #ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] grep /home/kadmin/spammers /etc/hosts.allow sendmail : /home/kadmin/spammers : deny -- hosts_access(5) says this: The access control language implements the following patterns: * A string that begins with a `.' character. A host name is matched if the last components of its name match the specified pattern. For example, the pattern `.tue.nl' matches the host name `wzv.win.tue.nl' So, why does my server continue accepting SMTP connections from 241net251.net.zeork.com.pl ? Thoughts, pointers, gentle kicks on the bum welcomed. Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. Ray's Rule of Precision: Measure with a micrometer. Mark with chalk. Cut with an axe. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pci modem question
not to mention that winmodems are utter crap, even on windows. On 9/13/06, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be sure to get a real full modem. Not a winmodem. A full modem will cost considerably more, like double the price because it has all the modem hardware on the card. Winmodems rely on Windows to do much of the hardware functions. -Derek At 09:05 PM 9/12/2006, musashi miyamoto wrote: FreeBSD mori.ranmaru 6.1-STABLE FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Tue Sep 5 02:09:57 PHT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/SHOGUN i386 is there a dialup pci modem that is compatible with FreeBSD? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Arla on FreeBSD 5.5
I just attempted to install Arla from ports - I need a working AFS client. It is on FreeBSD 5.5 because I was informed that it would not work on 6.1 due to problems using locks (kernel locks??) that have not been resolved. Supposedly though, it is supposed to work on FreeBSD 5.5. But, the install is blocked with the message: === arla-0.40 is marked as broken: compiles but overwrites files from a dependancy (security/heimdal). Is there something I can do about this or can I just cause it to ignore this with impunity? If so, how? Does it just overwrite heimdal with the one from ports - which might be what is already installed anyway?If so, does it matter? If it matters, does arla have to have that particular heimdal and not what might already be installed - so can a check for it be put in and have it skip over the overwriting and just use what is already there? Basically, I need to get somewhere on this and don't know how to procede so any pointers or help will be appreciated. jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CLI text editor recommendation
I need a CLI text editor I can use over ssh, which does NOT append newlines to the end of files as I save them. I am using this to edit PHP files, and my PHP doesn't like newlines outside the last ?. ee and vi both do so, I tried nano which also does the same. I haven't installed emacs to try that yet, since the man page says that it also does the same thing. Does anyone have any ideas? Another question: Why do so many text editors have this behavior? Should a text editor really add text that I don't tell it to add to my file? It seems that there must be some reason. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sendmail and hosts_access(5)
On 2006-09-13 11:14, Kevin Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I am attempting to block an SMTP server with /etc/hosts.allow: -- Received: from 241net251.net.zeork.com.pl (241net251.net.zeork.com.pl [194.117.241.251] (may be forged)) -- [506] Tue 12.Sep.2006 20:55:44 [EMAIL PROTECTED] #ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] grep zeork /home/kadmin/spammers .net.zeork.com.pl [507] Tue 12.Sep.2006 20:56:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] #ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] grep /home/kadmin/spammers /etc/hosts.allow sendmail : /home/kadmin/spammers : deny -- hosts_access(5) says this: The access control language implements the following patterns: * A string that begins with a `.' character. A host name is matched if the last components of its name match the specified pattern. For example, the pattern `.tue.nl' matches the host name `wzv.win.tue.nl' So, why does my server continue accepting SMTP connections from 241net251.net.zeork.com.pl ? Thoughts, pointers, gentle kicks on the bum welcomed. I don't think you can have the hostnames in a separate map file and then reference this file from /etc/hosts.allow. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CLI text editor recommendation
On 2006-09-13 12:25, Andy Greenwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need a CLI text editor I can use over ssh, which does NOT append newlines to the end of files as I save them. I am using this to edit PHP files, and my PHP doesn't like newlines outside the last ?. ee and vi both do so, I tried nano which also does the same. I haven't installed emacs to try that yet, since the man page says that it also does the same thing. Does anyone have any ideas? IMHO, the problem is not the editor, but the brokenness of this particular PHP installation. Having said that, you can configure both VIM and Emacs to append or not append newlines. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs
On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 05:30:43PM -0700, Perry Hutchison wrote: ... at least in my recent experience, an up-to-date ports tree does not always play nicely with a not-updated base install from CD. That's very interesting. However, the ports tree on the CD isn't complete, as in: not all the ports are there. Any idea why? (I am referring to the ports tree itself, i.e. the collection of skeleton directories. The set of distfiles provided on CDs 3 and 4 is necessarily incomplete, both due to limited space and because some distfiles have legal restrictions that prevent their inclusion.) Because since the release CD was cut, the porters have been tirelessly porting new software and updating existing software - the ports tree is pretty much in a constant state of growth and development. As soon as the release is cut, the included ports tree is out of date. -- Daniel Bye PGP Key: http://www.slightlystrange.org/pgpkey-dan.asc PGP Key fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ pgps591PQcSnj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: question about fortune at login
On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 10:56:59 -0400
Jerold McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What I don't much care for is the large /etc/motd which ships stock with
FreeBSD. So that and /etc/hosts are the only files I hack and override
manually when using mergemaster.
The motd is supposed to be frequently update. It was originally intended
for the system manager to post messages to users about whatever was
happening to the system - such as a notice that it would be down for
maintenance that evening. That is why it was called 'Message Of The Day'.
to get rid of motd on login:
touch ~/.hushlogin
fortune is being called by one of your shell startup scripts. if bash (as the
others have been covered already), look for ~/.profile and ~/.bashrc (and
~/.bash_logout ... if you need for actions when logging out.
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Re: CLI text editor recommendation
Andy Greenwood wrote: I need a CLI text editor I can use over ssh, which does NOT append newlines to the end of files as I save them. I am using this to edit PHP files, and my PHP doesn't like newlines outside the last ?. ee and vi both do so, I tried nano which also does the same. I haven't installed emacs to try that yet, since the man page says that it also does the same thing. Does anyone have any ideas? Emacs most certainly can save files without newlines. I don't see any option in my .emacs to force this behaviour so assume it works out of the box, nor can I find any reference in the man page which says it does add newlines. OTOH, emacs may be overkill if you don't already use it. I would have thought vi would have an option to stop this happening, but don't see one. I'm surprised at PHP barfing on extra newlines, but then I've never used it. --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CLI text editor recommendation
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 11:25, Andy Greenwood wrote: I need a CLI text editor I can use over ssh, which does NOT append newlines to the end of files as I save them. I am using this to edit PHP files, and my PHP doesn't like newlines outside the last ?. ee and vi both do so, I tried nano which also does the same. I haven't installed emacs to try that yet, since the man page says that it also does the same thing. Does anyone have any ideas? vim -b brokenfile.php should work. Note that something is seriously broken with PHP, though, if it can't process text files in the standard format. Another question: Why do so many text editors have this behavior? Because lines end with end-of-line, and the last line isn't magic. Note that almost every text file on your system is this way. Try this: $ cat somefile.txt; echo NEWTEXT If somefile.txt contains foo, you'd expect to see: foo NEWTEXT However, your broken PHP install insists on files that would result in: fooNEWTEXT which is clearly not the right thing to do. I really don't mean to sound harsh, but the problem really is with PHP and not your text editors. If that was a widespread issue, you'd hear about it all over the place and not just in this one thread. -- Kirk Strauser pgpADrhTHnrju.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: sendmail and hosts_access(5)
Giorgos Keramidas writes: I don't think you can have the hostnames in a separate map file and then reference this file from /etc/hosts.allow. The port security/denyhosts does exactly that. (And it seems to work.) Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sendmail and hosts_access(5)
Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2006-09-13 11:14, Kevin Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I am attempting to block an SMTP server with /etc/hosts.allow: -- Received: from 241net251.net.zeork.com.pl (241net251.net.zeork.com.pl [194.117.241.251] (may be forged)) -- [506] Tue 12.Sep.2006 20:55:44 [EMAIL PROTECTED] #ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] grep zeork /home/kadmin/spammers .net.zeork.com.pl [507] Tue 12.Sep.2006 20:56:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] #ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] grep /home/kadmin/spammers /etc/hosts.allow sendmail : /home/kadmin/spammers : deny -- hosts_access(5) says this: The access control language implements the following patterns: * A string that begins with a `.' character. A host name is matched if the last components of its name match the specified pattern. For example, the pattern `.tue.nl' matches the host name `wzv.win.tue.nl' So, why does my server continue accepting SMTP connections from 241net251.net.zeork.com.pl ? Thoughts, pointers, gentle kicks on the bum welcomed. I don't think you can have the hostnames in a separate map file and then reference this file from /etc/hosts.allow. hosts.allow triggers special behaviour with sendmail. Unlike other services which just close the connection immediately, with sendmail what happens is that it will accept the connection, let the sender attempt to send e-mail, but then respond with a 500 'permanent failure' code. The reason for that is fairly simple: if a MTA gets no answer when trying to connect to a server and deliver e-mail, then the standards say it should requeue the message and try again for up to 5 days. The only way to get the sending MTA to give up immediately is to issue a SMTP 500 error code. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: CLI text editor recommendation
I need a CLI text editor I can use over ssh, which does NOT append newlines to the end of files as I save them. I am using this to edit PHP files, and my PHP doesn't like newlines outside the last ?. ee and vi both do so, I tried nano which also does the same. I haven't installed emacs to try that yet, since the man page says that it also does the same thing. Does anyone have any ideas? Not an editor, but why not just do this: --- ?php # php code here # note no last ?. php will treat the rest of the file as php --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CLI text editor recommendation
On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:49:20 +0100
Alex Zbyslaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm surprised at PHP barfing on extra newlines, but then I've never
used it.
PHP does not barf at the extra lines. what could be happening is that the file
in question being edited (include_me.php) is included by some other PHP script
(some_script.php). If some_script.php loads include_me.php before issuing it's
HTTP headers, then the new lines (or any non-php-code text in include_me.php
will be sent out ot the client , BEFORE the headers, which , depending on your
error / warning settings, will make php complain, and will defnitely prevent
the intended action of the HTTP headers from happening properly.
back to the subject, i doubt that vi 'adds' a new line... i've used vi for
years (and yes, many times editing php scripts over ssh) and it doesnt save any
more lines than those already present...
maybe you need to remove DOS ^M ? ( try converters/unix2dos ) - those are far
more likely to cause headaches on a cross platform environment.
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Re: forwarding as a gateway, logging certain traffic
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:51:08 -0400
Bart Silverstrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Something inside our network is infected with a spam-mailing trojan.
We now have our PIX firewall set to block all outgoing traffic to
port 25 unless it is from our mail server.
you should also accept only authenticated smtp connections from your LAN (or
exchange only, if you can), and limit the number of recipients per email.
Pretty sure you can limit the rate at which xchange will send emails out
(virtual smtp server). Then just check the xchange queues ... see them
grow...and wonder why did we (I'm in the same boat ;) ) went with xhcnage in
the first place :D
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Re: CLI text editor recommendation
Thanks for the advice everyone. I will certainly check out my php and see if I can figure out why it's giving me errors as-is. On 9/13/06, Philip Hallstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need a CLI text editor I can use over ssh, which does NOT append newlines to the end of files as I save them. I am using this to edit PHP files, and my PHP doesn't like newlines outside the last ?. ee and vi both do so, I tried nano which also does the same. I haven't installed emacs to try that yet, since the man page says that it also does the same thing. Does anyone have any ideas? Not an editor, but why not just do this: --- ?php # php code here # note no last ?. php will treat the rest of the file as php --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: package-recursive and methods to quickly rebuild your computer
In response to Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED]: so ive been playing with my buildserver, and working out the methodology to quickly recover a computer to operational mode. yesterday, i took my buildserver, and began with a 'pkg_delete -a', and then updated my ports tree. i then proceeded to visit each port directory of things my production server runs, and did a 'make install package-recursive', until had a /usr/ports/packages/ directory that was very full of what appears to be invididual packages of each of the things i need on my server. next, i took a test box, and mounted /usr/ports from my build server to this test box, changed to /usr/ports/packages/All, and did a 'pkg_add -v *', and watched as what appeared to be each package this directory install onto my test box. the first thing i decided to test, was apache (2.0.59). apache would fire up, but php would not work well enough to load squirrelmail or something like phpsysinfo. phpsysinfo told me that the xml and pcre exentions are required, but 'pkg_info|grep php5' told me that these extensions were installed. if i do a plain 'pkg_info' on both my build server and test box, they are line for line the same, but some things are obvously not working. first, am i going about this project in the wrong direction? Sounds good to me. second, what is the proper way to use the packages that have been built from ports, and how do they differ from actually building the port on a system? It sounds to me like the php addons aren't getting registered in /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libm.so.3 on FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE
- Original Message - From: Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: libm.so.3 on FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 23:46:20 -0400 On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 09:23:46PM -0500, Jonathan Horne wrote: cvsuping to -p6 wil not fix the problem. i had the exact same issue (except it was a list of 6 different .so files) getting the NetBackup 5.1 agent for UNIX to run on freebsd. my solution was as simple as: ln -s /lib/libm.so.4 /lib/libm.so.2 (NetBackup agent was looking for so.2) so in your case, just symlink the existing .4 to a .3, and you should be good to go. backwards compatibility should not be an issue. That's a bogus hack; the libraries are not compatible or they'd have the same version! Just install the relevant compat package (compat4x/compat5x). Kris 2.dat anyway dude, in my case compat 4.x and 5.x already installed and run in my kernel, but still i cant run it properly because of the library issue.. and i'm doing this symlink and it's solved.. :) -- ___ Now you can search for products and services http://search.mail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sendmail and hosts_access(5)
Robert Huff wrote: Giorgos Keramidas writes: I don't think you can have the hostnames in a separate map file and then reference this file from /etc/hosts.allow. The port security/denyhosts does exactly that. (And it seems to work.) Robert Huff I didn't see Giorgos' reply to my initial post, but, on that subject, the manpage I referred to (hosts_access) also says: A string that begins with a `/' character is treated as a file name. A host name or address is matched if it matches any host name or address pattern listed in the named file. The file format is zero or more lines with zero or more host name or address patterns separated by whitespace. A file name pattern can be used anywhere a host name or address pattern can be used. It could be, I suppose, that the manpage is out-of-date/sync with reality Kevin Kinsey -- It is better to wear out than to rust out. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs
On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 08:19:22AM -0400, ograbme wrote: Hello Frank, Tuesday, September 12, 2006, 10:41:17 PM, you wrote: snip FS Go grab the compressed, reasonably up to date ports tree: FS $ fetch -dpv ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/ports.tar.gz FS (warning! 35MB compressed) Will do when I have Internet connection via FreeBSD box. Need to set up ADSL connection - am currently reading about that process. Also, need to figure out how USB gets set up properly. But these are two separate issues that I will probably be asking about in the very near future ... if I haven't managed to make any real progress in these areas. I didn't realise you didn't have a network connection yet! For usb, you need: usbd_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf The handbook is your best bet to get your network connection going. Any problems, just post here. FS and: FS # mv ports.tar.gz /usr/ports FS # cd /usr/ports FS # tar xvzf ports.tar.gz FS to build sudo, first check that there's nothing funny with building FS sudo: FS $ cat /usr/ports/UPDATING | grep sudo FS if there's nothing then: FS # cd /usr/ports/security/sudo/ FS # make install clean Thanks for the detailed steps. FS Then read the handbook about keeping your ports tree up to date using FS portsnap or cvsup. Will do. P.S. Please advise what the proper mode of responding is in terms of replying. I did a reply all ... snip FS That's OK. I usually post to the list and cc to the person who posted FS in the first place as they may not be subscribed to the list. Yes, this was my line of thinking, but don't want to upset anyone as I am a newbie here. ;) Yeah, it always helps if you don't piss off everybody when you're tring to get help ;) FS Welcome to FreeBSD! Thanks. Appreciate it, Frank. No worries. BTW, you can get back to the installer with: # /stand/sysinstall and from there with your discs you can install a limited amount of ports/packages. Best of luck with it. It will take you some blood, sweat and tears to familiarise yourself with FreeBSD but once you've gone through the initial learning process and setting up the basics such as networking and email, it's very easy to maintain your system and install software - much easier than Linux IMHO. The ports system for application software and buildkernel/buildworld for upgrading your base system are very effective. -- Frank echo f r a n k @ e s p e r a n c e - l i n u x . c o . u k | sed 's/ //g' ---PGP keyID: 0x10BD6F4B--- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: package-recursive and methods to quickly rebuild your computer
In response to Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED]: so ive been playing with my buildserver, and working out the methodology to quickly recover a computer to operational mode. yesterday, i took my buildserver, and began with a 'pkg_delete -a', and then updated my ports tree. i then proceeded to visit each port directory of things my production server runs, and did a 'make install package-recursive', until had a /usr/ports/packages/ directory that was very full of what appears to be invididual packages of each of the things i need on my server. next, i took a test box, and mounted /usr/ports from my build server to this test box, changed to /usr/ports/packages/All, and did a 'pkg_add -v *', and watched as what appeared to be each package this directory install onto my test box. the first thing i decided to test, was apache (2.0.59). apache would fire up, but php would not work well enough to load squirrelmail or something like phpsysinfo. phpsysinfo told me that the xml and pcre exentions are required, but 'pkg_info|grep php5' told me that these extensions were installed. if i do a plain 'pkg_info' on both my build server and test box, they are line for line the same, but some things are obvously not working. first, am i going about this project in the wrong direction? Sounds good to me. second, what is the proper way to use the packages that have been built from ports, and how do they differ from actually building the port on a system? It sounds to me like the php addons aren't getting registered in /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. it turns out, that you were correct. and to add insult to injury, the package that was created is not even depositing the pcre.so into /usr/local/lib/php/20050922 directory, which is fully populated on the build server. at this point im not sure where to go. so far, it doesnt seem like this project is going to produce a useable set of pre-built packages from my build server that can be used on another system for a fast-as-possible system recovery. not beaten yet, jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thank You and Mc OS games
On 9/13/06, felix.schalck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello in there, I'm kind of complicated person, so finding o good OS was really a pity for me. I googled around a lot, installed a lot and often get disappointed... until I discovered FreeBSD. Folks, this OS ist simply great because it is CLEAR. Clear Structure, clear Doc, clear Policy. But all the guys on this mailing list probably already know this... Now, i have one simple question related to this: where and whom can I tell THANK YOU ? GOOD WORK ? For providing such a great OS. There are many places, but I'm sure you've been heard already. Thanks for your kind words. Secondly: being myself an ex-gamer, I'm wondering if it is possible to run Mac OS games under FreeBSD. I found no solution on google, so probably there is some reason which cause it NOT working. Could someone just explain me what it this reason ? Unfortunately, Mac OS games just don't run on anything but Mac OS itself. Many Linux games and some windows ones run flawlessly on FreeBSD, though, with no or subtle performance penalties. On the other hand, you might have heard that Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD. They removed all the clear things you were talking about, slipstreamed a clear-looking GUI and put a price tag on it. The result is a pretty good desktop OS (for a commercial one that is). You might want to try it out. Take care! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thank You and Mc OS games
On Sep 13, 2006, at 1:25 PM, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: Unfortunately, Mac OS games just don't run on anything but Mac OS itself. Many Linux games and some windows ones run flawlessly on FreeBSD, though, with no or subtle performance penalties. For commercial game software, Andrew is certainly right that one it more likely to be able to run Linux versions. However, something like BZFlag runs on both MacOS X and FreeBSD, as do almost all of the Roguelike games (URogue, NetHack, Moria, Angband), and many other Open Source games. Felix, try looking under /usr/ports/games On the other hand, you might have heard that Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD. They removed all the clear things you were talking about, slipstreamed a clear-looking GUI and put a price tag on it. At the time MacOS X was first released, the majority of CVS tags in the kernel and library trees came from NetBSD, with FreeBSD being the second most common. At the present time, from http:// developer.apple.com/technotes/tn2002/tn2071.html: Evolution of Mac OS X Berkeley Software Distribution (BSD): Part of the history of Mac OS X goes back to Berkeley Software Distributions (BSD) UNIX of the early seventies. Specifically, Mac OS X is based in part on BSD 4.4 Lite. On a system level, many of the design decisions are made to align with BSD-style UNIX systems. Most libraries and utilities are from FreeBSD, but some are derived from NetBSD. For future development, Mac OS X has adopted FreeBSD as a reference code base for BSD technology. Work is ongoing to synchronize all BSD tools and libraries more closely with the FreeBSD-stable branch. Mach: Although Mac OS X must credit BSD for most of the underlying levels of the operating system, Mac OS X also owes a major debt to Mach. The kernel is heavily influenced in its design philosophy by Carnegie Mellon's Mach project. The kernel is not a pure micro- kernel implementation, since the address space is shared with the BSD portion of the kernel and the I/O Kit. -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thank You and Mc OS games
Evolution of Mac OS X Berkeley Software Distribution (BSD): Part of the history of Mac OS X goes back to Berkeley Software Distributions (BSD) UNIX of the early seventies. Specifically, Mac OS X is based in part on BSD 4.4 Lite. On a system level, many of the design decisions are made to align with BSD-style UNIX systems. Most libraries and utilities are from FreeBSD, but some are derived from NetBSD. For future development, Mac OS X has adopted FreeBSD as a reference code base for BSD technology. Work is ongoing to synchronize all BSD tools and libraries more closely with the FreeBSD-stable branch. Thanks for your details, Do you think the interest that mac developpers pay on freebsd-stable is a good thing for FreeBSD ? I mean: for further developpement and general supporting of the OS ? regards, Felix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thank You and Mc OS games
On Sep 13, 2006, at 2:16 PM, felix.schalck wrote: Do you think the interest that mac developpers pay on freebsd- stable is a good thing for FreeBSD ? I mean: for further developpement and general supporting of the OS ? Sure. But the effect is better observed by noticing which parts of one system are actually committed to the CVS (SVN, etc) repositories of another. -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how to disable realplayer automatically open web browser?
Hello Freebsder, When I play some video clips downloaded from the Internet, realplayer automatically opens a web browser and goes to some web pages. I know how to disable this in M$ Windwos using realfilter.exe or Helix Producer Plus, but how to disable this in Freebsd or Linux. Thanks. Wei ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thank You and Mc OS games
On 13 September 2006, at 15:25, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: On the other hand, you might have heard that Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD. Although it is based on BSD, I don't think it's FreeBSD it was based on. I think it goes all the way back to 4.2BSD. Or something. They removed all the clear things you were talking about, slipstreamed a clear-looking GUI and put a price tag on it. The result is a pretty good desktop OS (for a commercial one that is). You might want to try it out. Take care! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- hackmiester (Hunter Fuller) svinx yknow when you go to a party, and everyones hooked up except one guy and one girl svinx and so they look at each other like.. do we have to? svinx intel nvidia must be lookin at each other like that right now Phone Voice: +1 251 589 6348 Fax: Call the voice number and ask. Email General chat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Large attachments: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPS-related stuff: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IM AIM: hackmiester1337 Skype: hackmiester31337 YIM: hackm1ester Gtalk: hackmiester MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Xfire: hackmiester ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problem with sqlite3 and python
Hello I have a problem with Python + sqlite3. My main machine is a FreeBSD 6.1 I have also try on an old machine running FreeBSD 5.5 and it doesn't work either. I join to this email some information. I can also provide a core file if someone is interested in solving that problem. Thanks you for any information on how to solve this -fred- cocoa[282] gdb /usr/local/bin/python python.core GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type show copying to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type show warranty for details. This GDB was configured as i386-marcel-freebsd...(no debugging symbols found)... Core was generated by `python'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. Reading symbols from /lib/libutil.so.5...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libutil.so.5 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 Reading symbols from /lib/libm.so.4...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libm.so.4 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpthread.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libpthread.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libc.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/time.so... (no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/time.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/ itertools.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/itertools.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/strop.so... (no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/strop.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/zlib.so... (no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/zlib.so Reading symbols from /lib/libz.so.3...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libz.so.3 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/ datetime.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/datetime.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/ _socket.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/_socket.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/_ssl.so... (no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/_ssl.so Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libssl.so.4...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libssl.so.4 Reading symbols from /lib/libcrypto.so.4...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libcrypto.so.4 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/math.so... (no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/math.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/ binascii.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/binascii.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/ _random.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/_random.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/fcntl.so... (no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/fcntl.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/parser.so... (no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/parser.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/struct.so... (no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/struct.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/ cStringIO.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/cStringIO.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/ collections.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/collections.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/ cPickle.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/cPickle.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/ _locale.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/_locale.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/sha.so... (no debugging symbols
Meaning of CP_INTR
Im getting the cpu statistics from sysctlbyname(kern.cp_time... But i dont know the exact meaning of the field CP_INTR (defined in sys/resource.h). I know its the time that the cpu spends in interrupt mode but: what kind of interrupts? IRQs? software interrupts? both? Thank you. -- /Karlos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with sqlite3 and python
On Sep 13, 2006, at 3:48 PM, Fred C! wrote: Hello I have a problem with Python + sqlite3. My main machine is a FreeBSD 6.1 I have also try on an old machine running FreeBSD 5.5 and it doesn't work either. I join to this email some information. I can also provide a core file if someone is interested in solving that problem. Thanks you for any information on how to solve this Not enough data; switch to the thread which crashed, ie got the SIG 11, and do a bt to try to see what was going wrong. Note that debugging multithreaded programs is rather difficult, and you might want to double-check that your basic Python installation is OK first by running the included self-tests which come with the Python distribution. If you're using the Python from ports, try doing: cd /usr/ports/lang/python make cd /usr/ports/lang/python/work/Python-2.4.3 make test -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Experience
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 06:16, Jeff Rollin wrote: I let a lot of BSD comments about Linux go unpunished, but this one has always got me. BSD had to be *almost totally rewritten* to avoid ATT licensing issues... added to the fact that I wouldn't be surprised if it's hard to find a single line of code IRIX, Solaris et al these days share between themselves and with V7. Not only that, but I understand that a lot of Unix sysadmins download the GNU tools as well, because (among other things) they do nifty things like being able to unzip, gunzip or bunzip a tarball before untarring it. And the amount of software available from people like KDE to install in FreeBSD is staggering. I find the phrase almost totally rewritten to be misleading. It is true that the majority of the OS had been rewritten by the time of the lawsuit. That is what happens as hardware and software changes. You'd vomit if you had a V7 kernel on modern hardware (even if you got all the hardware supported the internals were designed for a different time period). The code had evolved slowly over time from the base of where it had started. By the time the lawsuit was brought up and the licensing issues went to court only 0.016% of the files had to be removed and another 0.388% of them had to add copyright notices. I hardly find needing to rewrite less than half a percent (0.404%) of the operating system as a total rebuild. Along with that less than half a percent was a legal order to not use the name Unix but the 99.59% of code that was Unix one moment didn't suddenly cease to exist or change forms when that name was removed. The lawsuit was settled in January 1994, largely in Berkeley's favor. Of the 18,000 files in the Berkeley distribution, only 3 had to be removed and 70 modified to show USL copyright notices. A further condition of the settlement was that USL would not file further lawsuits against users and distributors of the Berkeley-owned code in the upcoming 4.4BSD release. [From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Software_Distribution#Net.2F2_and_legal_troubles but easily found elsewhere as well if one investigates.] Does the OS have any original code left in it? I certainly hope not but the pedigree is there. It started from the original code and changed a little bit at a time. Even though FreeBSD can't be called Unix today, it evolved from Unix. Linux arose from ideas as presented in the POSIX standard and GNU community. I agree that Linux is not an emulator. It is just a different interpretation of Unix. Solaris is different, BSD is different, AIX is different, etc. While some did evolve from the actual roots and Linux didn't... I do not believe that is reason alone to snub Linux. Anyway, all modern day Unix systems have different code than the original Unix systems. It's part of the reality of software. As for the GNU tools, yes most sysadmins use some of them (although not always). I know that BSD tar handles gzip and bzip2 just fine ( -z and -j respectively). So I know I wouldn't download gtar just for that feature. And I don't even consider it that large of a feature. If I had a tar which lacked it, I could certainly still manage that with one command line. GNU utilities have their benefits. Mainly, in my experience, that they're fairly common in the open source world and often you need them to use something which is created by them. I've had to download gawk and gsed before just to install a program without rewriting all the awk and sed code in it to be posix compliant, for example. I do have KDE on several computers I maintain for people and use a lot of software outside the base install. Once everything is setup... and for the most part, the difference between using BSD or Linux is minor. It's not anywhere near the difference between using Windows and Mac (for example). -Kevin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apache 1.x and 2.x on same server
Are there any options I can use when installing apache 2.x from the ports tree so it won't overwrite apache 1.x? Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Experience -- Linux/BSD Differences
If I may comment as someone who knows only that BSD looks better to a newbie, it looks better because I only have to go to one place to read the FreeBSD manual. For Linux, there's documentation for all the little parts, and a community/wiki for any particular distribution, except that's a lot different from having a single document that covers almost everything. And for everything else, there's this list, which has a minimum of *attitude*, which is a contrast to many linux boards I've read. Joel On Tuesday 12 September 2006 06:16, Jeff Rollin wrote: I let a lot of BSD comments about Linux go unpunished, but this Joel J. Adamson Arlington, MA - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with sqlite3 and python
On Sep 13, 2006, at 7:17 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Sep 13, 2006, at 3:48 PM, Fred C! wrote: Hello I have a problem with Python + sqlite3. My main machine is a FreeBSD 6.1 I have also try on an old machine running FreeBSD 5.5 and it doesn't work either. I join to this email some information. I can also provide a core file if someone is interested in solving that problem. Thanks you for any information on how to solve this Not enough data; switch to the thread which crashed, ie got the SIG 11, and do a bt to try to see what was going wrong. Note that debugging multithreaded programs is rather difficult, and you might want to double-check that your basic Python installation is OK first by running the included self-tests which come with the Python distribution. If you're using the Python from ports, try doing: cd /usr/ports/lang/python make cd /usr/ports/lang/python/work/Python-2.4.3 make test Every thing seems OK to me. All the tests are fine. -fred-___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow install of Ruby 18 from ports
Old FreeBSD on old hardware is a recipe for such problems. Hummm, I was looking at bsdstats... majority of registered hardware is pentium III. I like FreeBSD because of it's hability of running well on old hardware: why would I need a Xeon dual core to run a DNS server for 5 clients? Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow install of Ruby 18 from ports
On 14/09/2006 03:21, Olivier Nicole wrote: Hummm, I was looking at bsdstats... majority of registered hardware is pentium III. I like FreeBSD because of it's hability of running well on old hardware: why would I need a Xeon dual core to run a DNS server for 5 clients? I don't know why. I'm running DNS server on old Celeron 400Mhz with 96MB RAM just fine. Why do you think you need Xeon dual core for that? Karol -- Karol Kwiatkowski freebsd at orchid dot homeunix dot org OpenPGP: http://www.orchid.homeunix.org/carlos/gpg/0x06E09309.asc signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Slow install of Ruby 18 from ports
I don't know why. I'm running DNS server on old Celeron 400Mhz with 96MB RAM just fine. Why do you think you need Xeon dual core for that? Of course I don't, and won't. I was just replying to the guy that told me that I am using archaic hardware and that it makes building ruby slow. I do use a number of PIII servers (more than Xeon) and am very happy with them. Bests, Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Under Attack: Bandwidth throttling on 5.2.1?
This is probably going to tax the memory. I'm sorry in advance. We observed 2 hangs and 3 crashes in the last 5 hours and finally after looking at the nature of the traffic, it appears to be little infested windows spybots from all over targeting our forums to attempt to reply to all messages with gambling and other spam. The referer in every case is a few obvious spam sites. We measured 33 pages per second and all invoking perl (well you can image the load). It's killed the system in several was I've never even seen. We shutdown on purpose for the first time in years which is pretty bad for business. I'm readying the quad opteron tyan to take down and shove in it's place since the T1 can't swamp it, but still building. The machine is a dual 3.0 xeon with 4G and Intel 1000/Pro on 5.2.1 with IPFW enabled. If I can configure throttling on this old a system, we could come back up I think and try ride out the attack. I've never done this before but in an earlier thread I saw where you configure a pipe such as: ipfw pipe 1 config bw 256Kbit/s ipfw add pipe 1 tcp from 192.168.1.2 80 then set sysctl.conf net.inet.ip.fw.one_pass=1 Is that is all that's necessary for this old a system or is there anything else. If this is correct, would this keep this fellow from crashing. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Experience -- Linux/BSD Differences
On 9/13/06, Joel Adamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I may comment as someone who knows only that BSD looks better to a newbie, it looks better because I only have to go to one place to read the FreeBSD manual. For Linux, there's documentation for all the little parts, and a community/wiki for any particular distribution, except that's a lot different from having a single document that covers almost everything. And for everything else, there's this list, which has a minimum of *attitude*, which is a contrast to many linux boards I've read. Joel On Tuesday 12 September 2006 06:16, Jeff Rollin wrote: I let a lot of BSD comments about Linux go unpunished, but this Si, y además no nos molestamos cuando escribimos en otro idioma xD. -- Linux is for people who hate Micro$oft. BSD is for people who love Unix ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sendmail and hosts_access(5)
On 2006-09-13 19:37, Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2006-09-13 11:14, Kevin Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I am attempting to block an SMTP server with /etc/hosts.allow: -- Received: from 241net251.net.zeork.com.pl (241net251.net.zeork.com.pl [194.117.241.251] (may be forged)) -- [506] Tue 12.Sep.2006 20:55:44 [EMAIL PROTECTED] #ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] grep zeork /home/kadmin/spammers .net.zeork.com.pl [507] Tue 12.Sep.2006 20:56:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] #ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] grep /home/kadmin/spammers /etc/hosts.allow sendmail : /home/kadmin/spammers : deny -- hosts_access(5) says this: The access control language implements the following patterns: * A string that begins with a `.' character. A host name is matched if the last components of its name match the specified pattern. For example, the pattern `.tue.nl' matches the host name `wzv.win.tue.nl' So, why does my server continue accepting SMTP connections from 241net251.net.zeork.com.pl ? Thoughts, pointers, gentle kicks on the bum welcomed. I don't think you can have the hostnames in a separate map file and then reference this file from /etc/hosts.allow. ... and I'm wrong of course. Alex Zbyslaw pointed out that I had missed the part of the manpage which refers to this: oA string that begins with a `/' character is treated as a file name. A host name or address is matched if it matches any host name or address pattern listed in the named file. The file for- mat is zero or more lines with zero or more host name or address patterns separated by whitespace. A file name pattern can be used anywhere a host name or address pattern can be used. Sorry for the confusion :-/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apache 1.x and 2.x on same server
--On September 13, 2006 5:05:17 PM -0700 snacktime [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any options I can use when installing apache 2.x from the ports tree so it won't overwrite apache 1.x? Sure. Just like any other port. Just choose the location you want to install the port to. apache13 make install PREFIX=/usr/local/www1/ apache2 make install PREFIX=/usr/local/www2/ Apache13 installs its conf files in /usr/local/etc/apache, and apache2 installs its conf files in /usr/local/etc/apache2. The only problem you might have is the startup scripts. I don't recall how they're named, off the top of my head. Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/
Re: sendmail and hosts_access(5)
On 2006-09-13 17:56, Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hosts.allow triggers special behaviour with sendmail. Unlike other services which just close the connection immediately, with sendmail what happens is that it will accept the connection, let the sender attempt to send e-mail, but then respond with a 500 'permanent failure' code. The reason for that is fairly simple: if a MTA gets no answer when trying to connect to a server and deliver e-mail, then the standards say it should requeue the message and try again for up to 5 days. The only way to get the sending MTA to give up immediately is to issue a SMTP 500 error code. Ah! I see now. Thanks for taking the time to write this cool, detailed explanation. Now I know one more thing about Sendmail :-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Top not showing cpu usage even remotely accurately
In recent 6.X versions, you can use 'S' to show system threads too. For an even more fine-grained view, you can use 'H' to show each thread separately. Then there is also the 'CPU' mode (as opposed to the default 'WCPU' mode of top). I've the same issue with FBSD 5.4 and TOP. In fact, the load averages are so irrelevant now that I barely pay attention to them. The server goes to 4 or 6 load averages without slowing down, and other times the load average would be 0.8 and the server is running slow. Probably because the work it does at the moment is not CPU-bounded? An example of unmatching TOP: last pid: 17889; load averages: 0.60, 0.52, 0.50 up 3+17:22:33 00:41:45 186 processes: 2 running, 183 sleeping, 1 lock CPU states: 30.0% user, 0.0% nice, 1.7% system, 0.1% interrupt, 68.3% idle Mem: 1678M Active, 1110M Inact, 287M Wired, 87M Cache, 112M Buf, 103M Free Swap: 8762M Total, 1584K Used, 8760M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZERES STATE C TIME WCPUCPU COMMAND 5071 nobody 1010 43124K 35180K CPU2 2 0:07 14.89% 14.89% httpd 14409 nobody 40 43940K 36076K sbwait 0 0:01 1.22% 1.22% httpd 95515 nobody 40 39892K 32188K sbwait 1 0:08 0.29% 0.29% httpd Try hitting 'S'. Perhaps the system spends too much time in system threads (i.e. the syncer) :) I think TOP and load averages are no longer accurate on FBSD 5.x and 6.x with SMP kernel. As far as I've seen. Load averages hit sometimes 8.0 without a noticable degradation in performance. This is one TOP that freaked me out, notice Idle CPU is 70% while the process is showing it is using 99% of CPU. systat draws more accurate picture, however, load average is still useless as far as performance monitoring : last pid: 10174; load averages: 1.63, 1.44, 1.20 up 4+00:25:19 00:39:20 169 processes: 2 running, 166 sleeping, 1 zombie CPU states: 25.8% user, 0.0% nice, 0.7% system, 0.1% interrupt, 73.4% idle Mem: 1316M Active, 1445M Inact, 297M Wired, 127M Cache, 112M Buf, 79M Free Swap: 8762M Total, 2096K Used, 8760M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZERES STATE C TIME WCPUCPU COMMAND 13362 root 1110 36444K 34196K CPU3 3 50:06 98.88% 98.88% perl5.8.7 90391 root 960 27356K 26236K select 2 0:06 0.54% 0.54% perl5.8.7 79619 nobody 40 209M 84640K sbwait 1 0:09 0.39% 0.39% httpd 10161 root 970 6712K 4752K select 2 0:00 1.40% 0.20% exim-4.62-0 79649 nobody200 210M 84464K lockf 0 0:06 0.15% 0.15% httpd 10158 mailnull 40 6760K 3992K sbwait 2 0:00 0.81% 0.15% exim-4.62-0 79654 nobody 40 208M 68660K sbwait 0 0:08 0.05% 0.05% httpd 79660 nobody 40 208M 58144K sbwait 0 0:06 0.05% 0.05% httpd 10170 sshd 1170 4768K 2052K select 0 0:00 1.00% 0.05% sshd 1123 mysql 960 346M 214M select 2 114:48 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 1123 mysql 200 346M 214M kserel 3 114:48 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 1123 mysql 200 346M 214M kserel 3 114:48 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 1123 mysql 200 346M 214M kserel 2 114:48 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 1123 mysql 200 346M 214M kserel 0 114:48 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 1123 mysql 200 346M 214M kserel 2 114:48 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 1123 mysql 200 346M 214M kserel 1 114:48 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 1123 mysql 200 346M 214M kserel 0 114:48 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 1123 mysql 200 346M 214M kserel 0 114:48 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 1123 mysql 200 346M 214M kserel 3 114:48 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 1123 mysql 200 346M 214M kserel 3 114:48 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 1123 mysql 200 346M 214M kserel 0 114:48 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 1123 mysql 200 346M 214M kserel 1 114:48 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 1123 mysql 200 346M 214M kserel 2 114:48 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 1123 mysql 200 346M 214M kserel 1 114:48 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 1123 mysql 200 346M 214M kserel 1 114:48 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 1123 mysql 200 346M 214M kserel 0 114:48 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 1123 mysql 200 346M 214M kserel 0 114:48 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 1123 mysql 200 346M 214M kserel 2 114:48 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 1123 mysql 200 346M 214M kserel 1 114:48 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 1123 mysql 200 346M 214M kserel 0 114:48 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 1123 mysql 200 346M 214M kserel 2 114:48 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 1123 mysql 200 346M 214M kserel 0 114:48 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 1123 mysql 200 346M 214M kserel 1 114:48 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 1123 mysql 200 346M 214M kserel 0 114:48 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 1123 mysql 200 346M 214M kserel 1 114:48 0.00% 0.00% mysqld
Re: CLI text editor recommendation
On 2006-09-13 17:49, Alex Zbyslaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy Greenwood wrote: I need a CLI text editor I can use over ssh, which does NOT append newlines to the end of files as I save them. I am using this to edit PHP files, and my PHP doesn't like newlines outside the last ?. ee and vi both do so, I tried nano which also does the same. I haven't installed emacs to try that yet, since the man page says that it also does the same thing. Does anyone have any ideas? Emacs most certainly can save files without newlines. I don't see any option in my .emacs to force this behaviour so assume it works out of the box, nor can I find any reference in the man page which says it does add newlines. FWIW, try looking at the documentation of `require-final-newline': C-h v require-final-newline RET ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X Window: Mouse Freeze
Hello everyone. After a bit of a wrestle, I installed my first FreeBSD 6.1 server on a PIII 733MHz with 512 Megs of RAM on a 6.5 Gig slice (a:/, b:swap, d:/var, e:/tmp, f:/usr). I got X Windows working after a little bit more struggle - I now have Afterstep, WindowMaker and fvwm working for me. The single biggest problem I have faced with this installation is configuring my mouse. I have an old 3-button Logitech serial mouse. It is not hard to replace it with a new PS/2 or USB roller mouse. But if I had to do that, I won't be here and I would not care about FreeBSD. On 5.4, I remember the serial port to which my mouse was connected was called /dev/cuaa0. Now it is /dev/cuad0. I find this a little odd. In any case, when I start my X Window session, for a while my mouse is responsive and moving around perfectly. After a few inches of moving here and there, it stops responding and that's it. I have tried doing a: cat /dev/cuad0 from the console and moved the mouse - it spews gibberish which is fine. But it does not budge a bit on my X Window session. I have to stop and restart and everytime it's the same story, except that it moves briefly before freezing. Some points: 1. I can oftentimes see the mouse pointer on the text consoles just after booting, but it does not move. 2. My moused runs with: moused -t microsoft -p /dev/cuad0 I enabled ChordMiddle at the time of xorgconfig so that's enabled in /etc/X11/xorg.config. Cheers, Andy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Top not showing cpu usage even remotely accurately
In the last episode (Sep 14), Tamouh H. said: This is one TOP that freaked me out, notice Idle CPU is 70% while the process is showing it is using 99% of CPU. systat draws more accurate picture, however, load average is still useless as far as performance monitoring : last pid: 10174; load averages: 1.63, 1.44, 1.20 up 4+00:25:19 00:39:20 169 processes: 2 running, 166 sleeping, 1 zombie CPU states: 25.8% user, 0.0% nice, 0.7% system, 0.1% interrupt, 73.4% idle Mem: 1316M Active, 1445M Inact, 297M Wired, 127M Cache, 112M Buf, 79M Free Swap: 8762M Total, 2096K Used, 8760M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZERES STATE C TIME WCPUCPU COMMAND 13362 root 1110 36444K 34196K CPU3 3 50:06 98.88% 98.88% perl5.8.7 90391 root 960 27356K 26236K select 2 0:06 0.54% 0.54% perl5.8.7 79619 nobody 40 209M 84640K sbwait 1 0:09 0.39% 0.39% httpd 10161 root 970 6712K 4752K select 2 0:00 1.40% 0.20% exim-4.62-0 79649 nobody200 210M 84464K lockf 0 0:06 0.15% 0.15% httpd You have a 4-cpu box and pid 13362 is using 99% of one CPU. The other 3 are idle, so your %idle is going to be around 75%. Looks pretty accurate to me :) -- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thank You and Mc OS games
On Sep 13, 2006, at 10:11 PM, felix.schalck wrote: Hello in there, I'm kind of complicated person, so finding o good OS was really a pity for me. I googled around a lot, installed a lot and often get disappointed... until I discovered FreeBSD. Folks, this OS ist simply great because it is CLEAR. Clear Structure, clear Doc, clear Policy. But all the guys on this mailing list probably already know this... Now, i have one simple question related to this: where and whom can I tell THANK YOU ? GOOD WORK ? For providing such a great OS. Secondly: beeing miself an ex-gamer, I'm wondering if it is possible to run Mac OS games under FreeBSD. I found no solution on google, so probably there is some reason which cause it NOT working. Could someone just explain me what it this reason ? Thanks a lot, Felix Unfortunately this isn't really possible as a lot of games (I'm almost positive) have been ported to Cocoa, which is a proprietary UI only in use with Mac OSX. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thank You and Mc OS games
On Sep 14, 2006, at 6:33 AM, hackmiester (Hunter Fuller) wrote: On 13 September 2006, at 15:25, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: On the other hand, you might have heard that Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD. Although it is based on BSD, I don't think it's FreeBSD it was based on. I think it goes all the way back to 4.2BSD. Or something. They removed all the clear things you were talking about, slipstreamed a clear-looking GUI and put a price tag on it. The result is a pretty good desktop OS (for a commercial one that is). You might want to try it out. Take care! -- hackmiester (Hunter Fuller) svinx yknow when you go to a party, and everyones hooked up except one guy and one girl svinx and so they look at each other like.. do we have to? svinx intel nvidia must be lookin at each other like that right now Phone Voice: +1 251 589 6348 Fax: Call the voice number and ask. Email General chat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Large attachments: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPS-related stuff: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IM AIM: hackmiester1337 Skype: hackmiester31337 YIM: hackm1ester Gtalk: hackmiester MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Xfire: hackmiester Please look at Chuck's earlier post for more information as to the fact that FreeBSD is used in the Mac OSX Darwin kernel. As for how it was used, IIRC from what I've read, the Darwin kernel is a hybrid kernel made from the FreeBSD kernel and the Mach kernel from Carnegie Mellon. The Mach portion of the Darwin kernel provides a lot of the hardware support, resource management, and tie-ins (it's a micro-kernel), while the FreeBSD derived portion provides a lot of the BSD'ness for policies and the like (i.e. sockets, networking, permissions, etc). I obtained my info from an OS book and Wikipedia, if anyone's interested. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Top not showing cpu usage even remotely accurately
On 2006-09-14 00:48, Tamouh H. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think TOP and load averages are no longer accurate on FBSD 5.x and 6.x with SMP kernel. As far as I've seen. Load averages hit sometimes 8.0 without a noticable degradation in performance. This is one TOP that freaked me out, notice Idle CPU is 70% while the process is showing it is using 99% of CPU. systat draws more accurate picture, however, load average is still useless as far as performance monitoring : last pid: 10174; load averages: 1.63, 1.44, 1.20 up 4+00:25:19 00:39:20 169 processes: 2 running, 166 sleeping, 1 zombie CPU states: 25.8% user, 0.0% nice, 0.7% system, 0.1% interrupt, 73.4% idle Mem: 1316M Active, 1445M Inact, 297M Wired, 127M Cache, 112M Buf, 79M Free Swap: 8762M Total, 2096K Used, 8760M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZERES STATE C TIME WCPUCPU COMMAND 13362 root 1110 36444K 34196K CPU3 3 50:06 98.88% 98.88% perl5.8.7 90391 root 960 27356K 26236K select 2 0:06 0.54% 0.54% perl5.8.7 79619 nobody 40 209M 84640K sbwait 1 0:09 0.39% 0.39% httpd 10161 root 970 6712K 4752K select 2 0:00 1.40% 0.20% exim-4.62-0 79649 nobody200 210M 84464K lockf 0 0:06 0.15% 0.15% httpd Apparently, you have a 4-CPU system :-) What you see displayed as CPU is for one of the processors, not for all of them. Load average is not an easy thing to update for an SMP system, I guess. There are two options: - Set load-average to = 1.0 if at least one process wants to run on at least one processor - Calculate an aggregate load-average for all CPUs None of these is 100% correct, though. One of them is useful in some cases. The other in other cases :-( I don't remember off-hand how 5.X or 6.X calculate their load-average, but I'd be interested to know what you expected it to show, or what it shows on Linux systems. pgpC51FkX8BbO.pgp Description: PGP signature
