Re: FreeBSD USB disks - booting and backups

2007-08-24 Thread Wojciech Puchar


i'm doing this with my notebook.


Great.  What kind of drive?  And have you actually
had to do a restore?

some used 80GB 3.5 drive (Seagate) + noname USB-IDE jack (true noname, 
nothing written on it). the latter costed 6$ new, including disk power 
supply.


works very well.


i don't make any partitions on it, just


dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=1m count=1

to clear things up

newfs -m 0 -O1 -i 16384 -b 4096 -f 512 -U /dev/da0

options for max of space, not performance, as i backup 120GB notebook 
drive.



then to make a copy i do:

mount -o noatime /dev/da0 /root/copy
cd /root/copy
rsync -avrlHpogDtS --delete --force --exclude-from=/root/copy.exclude / .
umount /root/copy




my copy.exclude file looks like that (change to your needs:

/OLD
/root/copy/*
/dev/*
/usr/ports
/proc/*
swap
/tmp/*
/var/tmp/*
/usr/compat/linux/proc/*
/usr/obj





the /OLD file are on copy drive, not master, just to be able to have many 
generations done by cp -lpR



after copying first time you have to

bsdlabel -B da0

WARNING: when booting from copy, get to single user and fix fstab to have 
/dev/da0 as root.




other remarks: keep the copy plugged only when copying, then store in safe 
place :)

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Re: /var or /usr for data?

2007-08-24 Thread Wojciech Puchar

It would appear that the proper allocation of filesystems on FreeBSD is
to put all data in /usr.  I'm used to this and have been doing it for
years.


my favourite proper allocation is to make ONE partition (/) and nothing 
more. and forget all problems about how to partition your drive right...

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Re: Memcached Daemon Startup Issues

2007-08-24 Thread Peter Pluta



Peter Pluta wrote:
 
 I installed memcached and since it doesn't have a config file I entered
 the flags into rc.conf, but when I start it with the rc.d scripts, it
 always runs as nobody, instead of the user I specified with -u user. The
 man page says only when run as root. This confuses me somewhat because
 i'm executing the rc.d script as root, yet it still starts as nobody. I
 can manually start memcached with memcached -u memcached -l 127.0.0.1 -p
 11211 -m 32 -P /var/run/memcached/memcached.pid. 
 
 /etc/rc.conf bit:
 memcached_enable=YES
 memcached_flags='-u memcached -d -l 127.0.0.1 -m 32 -P
 /var/run/memcached.pid -p 1121'
 
 Any ideas?
 

Nvm, I had to take a look at the rc script to see that there was another
directive (memcached_user=)
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Re: load script at bootup

2007-08-24 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot

Hello,

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:59:37 -0500, Derek Ragona
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 01:48 PM 8/23/2007, Narek Gharibyan wrote:
#!/bin/sh

Ping -Dc 3600 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx | tail -4 /root/stat  date 
 /root/stat
 echo ===  /root/stat



I wrote this script for collecting ping statistic (after I email to a
 group
the stat file).

1. how can I run this at startup

 Add your script to root's crontab.  do a man on crontab for the exact
 syntax, but you can have it run @reboot then an interval.

I also have a script that I want to start at boot time and I simply
symlinked it to /usr/local/etc/rc.d/
It starts fine but now I wonder if maybe this is not the proper way to
start up scripts?

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Re: ip address location database

2007-08-24 Thread B H

David Banning skrev:

I am looking towards setting up something which will let me know what part
of the world a specific ip address is from.


Maybe this helps
http://blackholes.us/zones/countries/

It's a textfile for each country.
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Re: Memcached Daemon Startup Issues

2007-08-24 Thread Ivan Voras

Peter Pluta wrote:



Peter Pluta wrote:

I installed memcached and since it doesn't have a config file I entered
the flags into rc.conf, but when I start it with the rc.d scripts, it
always runs as nobody, instead of the user I specified with -u user. The
man page says only when run as root. This confuses me somewhat because
i'm executing the rc.d script as root, yet it still starts as nobody. I
can manually start memcached with memcached -u memcached -l 127.0.0.1 -p
11211 -m 32 -P /var/run/memcached/memcached.pid. 


/etc/rc.conf bit:
memcached_enable=YES
memcached_flags='-u memcached -d -l 127.0.0.1 -m 32 -P
/var/run/memcached.pid -p 1121'



Nvm, I had to take a look at the rc script to see that there was another
directive (memcached_user=)


This is because memcached_user is checked by it's rc.d script and 
defaults to nobody. Thus, when memcached is started from the script, 
without memcached_user set, it will be run as nobody, not as root, and 
it won't be able to switch to another user by itself.




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FreeBSD and ImageMagick crashes OS?

2007-08-24 Thread Roger Olofsson

Dear mailing list,

The other day I encountered a strange phenomena. Having run FreeBSD 
since 3.x I have never had a server crash on me until now. I completely 
blame the FreeBSD developers for spoiling me like that.


Now, when I get spoiled, it's hard to go back so when my webserver tried 
to handle a 7Mb JPG using ImageMagick and managed to crash the server I 
naturally got curious.


Turns out ImageMagick was called through php to resize the .JPG and most 
likely, the server runs out of memory/disk space. /var/tmp fills up and 
console spews as follows:


Aug 22 19:29:49 rutilus kernel: vnode_pager_putpages: I/O error 28
Aug 22 19:29:49 rutilus kernel: vnode_pager_putpages: residual I/O 32768 
at 62620
Aug 22 19:29:49 rutilus kernel: pid 29 (syncer), uid 0 inumber 49382 on 
/var: filesystem full


Server drops net and does not respond to keyboard input, not even on 
console.


Now, I realize that changing settings for ImageMagick and having a 
bigger /var disk and using a smaller .JPG of course would avoid the crash.


But, I still am somewhat kerfuffled about the fact that it brings my 
favourite operating system to its knees I'd want FreeBSD to 
intercept and log the error, the application should in my world be 
contained by the operating system and never ever be allowed to crash it. 
As the old saying was once - an operating system should emulate 
crashes, not crash while emulating.


I know, I know, you can't stop applications from doing whatever crazy 
stuff they do and some might even crash the OS as it appears. Luckily 
there's 3 versions of the OS inbetween the crashes though ;^)


Just thought I'd share this with the list.

Greetings from Sweden
/Roger


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Re: ip address location database

2007-08-24 Thread B H

David Banning skrev:

I am looking towards setting up something which will let me know what part
of the world a specific ip address is from.


Why are you spamming people with that C/R crap of your's?
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Re: FreeBSD and ImageMagick crashes OS?

2007-08-24 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 11:29:59 +0200
Roger Olofsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Turns out ImageMagick was called through php to resize the .JPG and most 
 likely, the server runs out of memory/disk space. /var/tmp fills up and 
 console spews as follows:
 
 Aug 22 19:29:49 rutilus kernel: vnode_pager_putpages: I/O error 28
 Aug 22 19:29:49 rutilus kernel: vnode_pager_putpages: residual I/O 32768 
 at 62620
 Aug 22 19:29:49 rutilus kernel: pid 29 (syncer), uid 0 inumber 49382 on 
 /var: filesystem full

:) having been bitten by that in several unix-like OS (pick any Linux distro, 
and freebsd too), i just remove /var/tmp and make a smylink to /tmp , which is 
big enough for my foreseeable needs. I like to keep my /var clean of tmp 
rubbish.

and yes,  configuring PHP and it's libraries helps too :)

B 
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  Albert Einstein

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Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been 
Warned.
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Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-24 Thread Bill Vermillion
[EMAIL PROTECTED], the prominent pundit, on
Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 23:19 while half mumbling, half-witicized:

 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:43:46 -0500
 From: Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

 --On Thursday, August 23, 2007 20:06:47 +0100 dgmm
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Thursday 23 August 2007, Erik Trulsson wrote:

  For this list (freebsd-questions@) in particular it is
  intentionally and explicitly the case that one does not need
  to be subscribed to post here. This is because it is the main
  support forum for FreeBSD, and much documentation exists
  directing people to ask their questions here.

  This does, in fact, open up a distinct possibility for list
  subscribers who want to stop their address being harvested.

  Subscribe to the list with one email address such that one
  receives the list emails but post to the list with a different
  address.

 Basically, what you (and others as well) are suggesting is that
 the list maintainers do double the work so that you don't have
 to bother with spam filtering.

 Seems rather self-centered to me.

 This is the internet. Spam is endemic. Short of encasing your
 computer in concrete, there's no way to avoid getting spam
 **even if you never post to a mailing list**. Either learn to
 deal with it or stop subscribing to lists.

 -- 
 Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Senior Information Security Analyst
 The University of Texas at Dallas
 http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/

I've had four email addresses.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] from
about 1984 to late 1980s.  We then set up a group of Unix
users - with 3 major nodes [including mine] feeding Orlando,
and then it was [EMAIL PROTECTED]   For awhile it
was [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Then I finally snagged a 3 letter domain,
so I'm   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I see about 5-10 [maxium] emails that are spam in my normal
mailbox.  I use spamassassin, and I  drop a lot into a
a mailbox called 'almost-certainly-spam'.

I just checked and as of this moment Fri Aug 24 06:23:47 EDT 2007,
I have 381 messages there dated August 23 and August 24.

I don't know when the last time an important message got 
into that file.

If you don't like spam, put in a decent spam filter, as someone
somewhere is going to get your address, whether it is from this
list or somewhere else.   And this thread on spam is quite useless
IMO on this list - unless you need hints/help on how to filter
spam.

[Do a search on Google and you'll see posts from me to Usenet
dating back to the mid-1980s.]


Bill
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Re: Test on FreeBSD site

2007-08-24 Thread Bill Moran
In response to NetOpsCenter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Aloha,
 
 How long does it take for a test to be accepted or rejected on the 
 FreeBSD test mail box?
 Is three minutes normal for a test to pop up?
 I had some FreeBSD 7 config issues and this nearly caused me to think I 
 hadn't cleared the problem  because it took quite a while to pop up.

It depends on how busy the server is at the time you send it, among
other factors.  I haven't noticed if the mail servers are doing
greylisting, but it wouldn't surprise me if they were.

In this day and age, with the spam scourge and all the alleged solutions
that everyone's mail servers use, anything less than 10 minutes for a
delivery should be considered successful.

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Re: portupgrade and make options

2007-08-24 Thread Michael S
Thanks a lot.
By the way, will it attempt to use -j4 for make
install?

--- Fatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Michael S wrote:
  Good day all,
  
  I was wondering how to pass options from
 portupgrade
  to make. Say I wanted use -j4 for max. number of
 jobs.
  Where should I specify that? When building world
  it's possible to be done from the command line:
 make
  -j4 buildworld.
  
  Also is athlon the correct CPUTYPE for AMD Sempron
  3400?
  
  Thanks in advance,
  Michael
 
 Hi Michael,
 
 The portupgrade system will honour any variables in
 /etc/make.conf. So 
 if you want -j4 every make, just enter the line:
 
 MAKEOPTS=-j4
 
 in /etc/make.conf.
 
 HtH,
 Adam J Richardson
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Re: portupgrade and make options

2007-08-24 Thread Robert Huff
Fatman writes:


  The portupgrade system will honour any variables in
  /etc/make.conf.

So will every other port (as well as any attempts to rebuild
the OS) whether this is desirable behavior or not.
Putting settings in make.conf is a club; seek instead for a
scalpel.


Robert Huff
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Gnome issues

2007-08-24 Thread Michael S
Good day all,

I installed Gnome a few days ago and everything had
been fine up until last night. I shutdown the computer
using  a Gnome menu (and not shutdown -p now) and upon
restart one of my drives (the one mapped to /home)
wasn't working. After I did get it to work and able to
return to using GNOME, but when I login using GDM, I
don't see the desktop pager and the windows don't have
any decorations (e.g. borders, close/minimize
buttons). I am not an expert, but looks like the
window manager got corrupted by that improper
shutdown.
Anyone had similar experiences? Any ideas how to
rectify this?

Thanks in advance,
Michael
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Re: portupgrade and make options

2007-08-24 Thread Fatman

Michael S wrote:

Good day all,

I was wondering how to pass options from portupgrade
to make. Say I wanted use -j4 for max. number of jobs.
Where should I specify that? When building world
it's possible to be done from the command line: make
-j4 buildworld.

Also is athlon the correct CPUTYPE for AMD Sempron
3400?

Thanks in advance,
Michael


Hi Michael,

The portupgrade system will honour any variables in /etc/make.conf. So 
if you want -j4 every make, just enter the line:


MAKEOPTS=-j4

in /etc/make.conf.

HtH,
Adam J Richardson
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Re: perl configuration question

2007-08-24 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:40:32 -0600
Andrew Falanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'm trying to install WebGUI on a FreeBSD system for my church.
 WebGUI uses PERL for its operation.  The program has a test
 environment perl script that it tries to run to make sure the
 environment can run WebGUI.  On a couple of the perl modules it tries
 to install, it bails saying that make is no good.
 
 I'm guessing this is because perl is expecting GNU make not BSD make,
 and since it's looks for /usr/bin/make, I'm sure it's getting the
 wrong version.  I'm pretty much a perl neophyte, having written only
 one perl script in my life and that was so pitifully little that it
 really wasn't worthy of being called a script; I do not know how to
 fix this.  How does one fix the configuration of perl (if this is even
 the problem, I'm going to try and see if this is something WebGUI is
 trying to use).

Hello Andrew,

This application needs good Porting. Unfortunatelly, many applications
advertise themselves like Runs on Linux/BSD/Solaris/AIX/. while
taking zero or close to zero care of anything but Linux. This is
visible in the fact that WebGUI sctipts do no inspection regarding
available make versions and for example in their assuming that bash
surely lives in /bin.

Here are several notes on what you can do:

(1) you have to manually replace all occurences of 'make' with 'gmake',
at least in build.sh. If the script itself fails, run it manually
with /usr/local/bin/bash or change bash path(s);

(2) please note that build.sh with no arguments will actually build not
just Perl, but Apache, ImageMagick, AwStats, several Perl modules,
MySQL and many other things as well, which doesn't make much sense.
It seems that you have to run it with

  # /usr/local/bin/bash build.sh --wre

with all prerequisites (you must gather them by hand from the
installation scripts) previously installed from ports. But it's very
likely that the script will not find all it needs itself and that
you must help it manually. A short inspection shows that you need

   databases/memcached
   graphics/ImageMagick
   databases/mysql...
   www/apache...
   www/awstats
   www/mod_perl
   ftp/lftp

and many more, including a huge number of Perl modules. Some of
these apps maybe have to be built with special options.

Any you still have to take care about paths the scripts use after
the installation in order to get WebGUI fully working.

(3) Maybe you should consider using another CMS software, there is a
lot of choice, including Perl-based if you prefer that. The most
important thing is that they are truly ported, so you have just to
type 'make install' to get running (and optimised) FreeBSD version.

Nikola Lečić
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[multiple NIC issue] two NICs in the same subnet problem.

2007-08-24 Thread myronn
Hi, 
I found an issue for a long time.
For test requirement without any switch/hub:
One host has two NICs and with the same subnet setting.
(local)NIC1: 10.0.0.1/8
(local)NIC2: 10.0.0.2/8
(direct connect peer) 10.0.0.10/8
(direct connect peer) 10.0.0.20/8
ping command: #ping 10.0.0.10 -c 5 -S 10.0.0.1

In Linux, while I assign source interface and IP address,
ex. ping 10.0.0.10 -I eth0  ..packet will be sent by NIC1
ping 10.0.0.20 -I eth1  ..packet will be sent by NIC2

In BSD, while I assign source interface/IP address, packet always
be sent by NIC1.  The NIC2 looks like dead.  Until I set 
#ifconfig eth0 down and NIC2 would be got up. 
So the ping command parameter -S would be broke down in this case.  

The packets format maybe is correct but NIC2 couldn't work.
If this is NOT a BUG, please tell me BSD is followed which standard?
Or what the purpose of BSD to define this behavior?

Thanks  Regards
Myron
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Re: perl configuration question

2007-08-24 Thread Andrew Falanga
On 8/23/07, Foo JH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Have you tried simply installed Perl from the packages in the FreeBSD
 install CD?


Yes, I installed perl from ports.

Andy
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Re: portupgrade and make options

2007-08-24 Thread Adam J Richardson

Michael S wrote:

Thanks a lot.
By the way, will it attempt to use -j4 for make
install?


Should do, yes. Robert Huff is correct when he says this will affect 
everything using make. I can't think why that would be inappropriate, 
but no doubt Robert has some scenarios in mind.


I'm too unsophisticated for the 'scalpel' approach. I still wield 'Club 
of Noobiness +3'. :P


HtH,
Adam J Richardson
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Re: perl configuration question

2007-08-24 Thread Andrew Falanga
On 8/24/07, Nikola Lecic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:40:32 -0600

 (3) Maybe you should consider using another CMS software, there is a
 lot of choice, including Perl-based if you prefer that. The most
 important thing is that they are truly ported, so you have just to
 type 'make install' to get running (and optimised) FreeBSD version.


Thank you for the great notes!  I'm not necessarily hung up on WebGUI.
 That was a flashy system that appealed to others in the church and
was just their first choice.  I do not believe they would be of the
mind set WebGUI or nothing! so what other choices are there?  Your
point above makes me think there are ported CMS packages within the
ports collection?  Is this true?  If so, are they comparable to WebGUI
in capability?

Andy
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Re: portupgrade and make options

2007-08-24 Thread Adam J Richardson

Roland Smith wrote:

Fortunately, there is a way to turn the axe into a scalpel. :-)

You can put stuff in make.conf so that it will only affect the ports
you want. Like this;

.if ${.CURDIR:M*/multimedia/mplayer}
WITH_DVD_DEVICE=/dev/cd1
WITH_CDROM_DEVICE=/dev/cd1
.endif

If the directory where make is invoked from ends in /multimedia/mplayer,
the variables inside the if-block will be set.

This works well because every update utility in the end invokes make to
build the port.

Roland


Ahh, so that's what that is. I've seen that kind of thing in my 
make.conf after installing ccache. Or is it distcc? I think it's ccache.


Adam J Richardson
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Re: Postfix/SpamAssassin Guru?

2007-08-24 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On August 24, 2007 8:32:01 AM -0500 Eric Crist [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



Hey,

Is there anyone that can help me do some funky filtering with postfix
and spamassassin?  I'm a new Postfix convert, and my knowledge is
lacking.

TIA for any help!


What is it that you want to do?

Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Senior Information Security Analyst
The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/


Postfix/SpamAssassin Guru?

2007-08-24 Thread Eric Crist

Hey,

Is there anyone that can help me do some funky filtering with postfix  
and spamassassin?  I'm a new Postfix convert, and my knowledge is  
lacking.


TIA for any help!

-
Eric F Crist
Secure Computing Networks


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Re: portupgrade and make options

2007-08-24 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 02:04:16PM +0100, Adam J Richardson wrote:
 Michael S wrote:
 Thanks a lot.
 By the way, will it attempt to use -j4 for make
 install?
 
 Should do, yes. Robert Huff is correct when he says this will affect 
 everything using make. I can't think why that would be inappropriate, but 
 no doubt Robert has some scenarios in mind.
 
 I'm too unsophisticated for the 'scalpel' approach. I still wield 'Club of 
 Noobiness +3'. :P

Fortunately, there is a way to turn the axe into a scalpel. :-)

You can put stuff in make.conf so that it will only affect the ports
you want. Like this;

.if ${.CURDIR:M*/multimedia/mplayer}
WITH_DVD_DEVICE=/dev/cd1
WITH_CDROM_DEVICE=/dev/cd1
.endif

If the directory where make is invoked from ends in /multimedia/mplayer,
the variables inside the if-block will be set.

This works well because every update utility in the end invokes make to
build the port.

Roland
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Re: Postfix/SpamAssassin Guru?

2007-08-24 Thread Martin Hepworth
Eric

why not stick with an MTA you know?

--
martin

On 8/24/07, Eric Crist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey,

 Is there anyone that can help me do some funky filtering with postfix
 and spamassassin?  I'm a new Postfix convert, and my knowledge is
 lacking.

 TIA for any help!

 -
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 Secure Computing Networks


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Re: perl configuration question

2007-08-24 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:10:15 -0600
Andrew Falanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 8/24/07, Nikola Lecic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:40:32 -0600
 
  (3) Maybe you should consider using another CMS software, there is a
  lot of choice, including Perl-based if you prefer that. The most
  important thing is that they are truly ported, so you have just
  to type 'make install' to get running (and optimised) FreeBSD
  version.
 
 
 Thank you for the great notes!  I'm not necessarily hung up on WebGUI.

I thought that you maybe already had a WebGUI content and that you
now want to switch to FreeBSD server. Again, you can try to make WebGUI
working; but build WebGUI only (with --wre), not other things,
including Perl. Build them from their FreeBSD ports and link WebGUI
scripts with them.

  That was a flashy system that appealed to others in the church and
 was just their first choice.  I do not believe they would be of the
 mind set WebGUI or nothing! so what other choices are there?  Your
 point above makes me think there are ported CMS packages within the
 ports collection?  Is this true?  If so, are they comparable to WebGUI
 in capability?

Of course, there are many of them, they are inside www (www/plone,
www/joomla, www/tikiwiki...). I recommend you to start a new thread
about CMS ideas, this will pass unnoticed under current subject. Write
exactly what features/capabilities you need (Perl-based?
wiki-like? ...), and people with experience with them will answer (I
have never used any, except little TikiWiki, long ago).

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Re: Postfix/SpamAssassin Guru?

2007-08-24 Thread Gerard
On August 24, 2007 at 09:32AM Eric Crist wrote:


 Is there anyone that can help me do some funky filtering with postfix  
 and spamassassin?  I'm a new Postfix convert, and my knowledge is  
 lacking.

Define funky!

Before you start asking questions regarding configuring Postfix, it
might behoove you to check out the Postfix documentation site
http://www.postfix.com/documentation.html. It is loaded with lots of
useful information. You might also consider joining the Postfix
mailing list.


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Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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Re: VMware Player 2 Linux on 6.2-RELEASE

2007-08-24 Thread Adam J Richardson

CyberLeo Kitsana wrote:

Unless the two machines have identical CPUs with identical capabilities,
this will likely end in failure. Operating systems aren't happy having
their CPUs switch capabilities or instruction sets between one cycle and
the next.


I hadn't considered that. I assumed VMware virtualised the CPU, so
that hot-swapping would be possible without a panic. You mean it allows
direct access to the CPU?

builder# dmesg | head | grep CPU:
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200  @ 2.00GHz (2008.36-MHz 686-c

So it does. Didn't notice that. Oh well, I can just start the VM on the 
slower machine. :)


Adam J Richardson

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Re: Postfix/SpamAssassin Guru?

2007-08-24 Thread Eric Crist

On Aug 24, 2007, at 9:05 AMAug 24, 2007, Gerard wrote:


On August 24, 2007 at 09:32AM Eric Crist wrote:



Is there anyone that can help me do some funky filtering with postfix
and spamassassin?  I'm a new Postfix convert, and my knowledge is
lacking.


Define funky!

Before you start asking questions regarding configuring Postfix, it
might behoove you to check out the Postfix documentation site
http://www.postfix.com/documentation.html. It is loaded with lots of
useful information. You might also consider joining the Postfix
mailing list.



This is also a reply to Paul Schmehl.

I've got Postfix with Dovecot and virtual users setup.  What I'm  
looking for is some filtering based on the flags SpamAssassin sets,  
so that I can route any messages tagged as Spam to a Spam directory  
with a users maildir.  I've done a ton of searches, etc, and I can't  
seem to figure this one out.  Also, I'm having a hard time (partially  
due to lack of effort, I'm guessing), getting DKIM/DomainKeys setup  
for my domains within Postfix.


TIA
-
Eric F Crist
Secure Computing Networks


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Re: Gnome issues

2007-08-24 Thread Derek Ragona

At 06:46 AM 8/24/2007, Michael S wrote:

Good day all,

I installed Gnome a few days ago and everything had
been fine up until last night. I shutdown the computer
using  a Gnome menu (and not shutdown -p now) and upon
restart one of my drives (the one mapped to /home)
wasn't working. After I did get it to work and able to
return to using GNOME, but when I login using GDM, I
don't see the desktop pager and the windows don't have
any decorations (e.g. borders, close/minimize
buttons). I am not an expert, but looks like the
window manager got corrupted by that improper
shutdown.
Anyone had similar experiences? Any ideas how to
rectify this?

Thanks in advance,
Michael


Sounds like your drive may be having issues.  I would reboot in single user 
mode and fsck the drive.  You may also want to try the drive manufacturer's 
diagnostic utility.


-Derek

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Re: Postfix/SpamAssassin Guru?

2007-08-24 Thread Eric Crist

On Aug 24, 2007, at 8:46 AMAug 24, 2007, Martin Hepworth wrote:


Eric

why not stick with an MTA you know?


Martin,

I've switched to postfix due to some of the features it supports.

Thanks for your concern, though.
-
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Re: Postfix/SpamAssassin Guru?

2007-08-24 Thread Eric

Eric Crist wrote:


This is also a reply to Paul Schmehl.

I've got Postfix with Dovecot and virtual users setup.  What I'm looking 
for is some filtering based on the flags SpamAssassin sets, so that I 
can route any messages tagged as Spam to a Spam directory with a users 
maildir.  I've done a ton of searches, etc, and I can't seem to figure 
this one out.  Also, I'm having a hard time (partially due to lack of 
effort, I'm guessing), getting DKIM/DomainKeys setup for my domains 
within Postfix.




Same setup here basically: Dovecot, Postfix, SA, clamav, postgrey and 
amavisd


i use procmail to filter things. it works well and was easy to 
integrate. I never played with DKIM though.


I must say that most of the spam that does come in I never see in a spam 
folder. its too high on the scores to even get delivered


if you havent played with postgrey yet, give it a whirl. it works wonders.
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Re: harassed by mplayer on FreeBSD-6.1-R amd64

2007-08-24 Thread Pollywog
On Friday 24 August 2007 15:33:19 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, everybody...I've downloaded mplayer but there is not a graphical
 interface... and how do I configure it?

I have used it in Linux and I know that in Linux, to have a graphical 
interface, one has to specify that during configure, before compiling.
The command for the graphical interface is gmplayer.  Try that and see if 
you already have the gui installed.

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harassed by mplayer on FreeBSD-6.1-R amd64

2007-08-24 Thread luizbcampos
Hi, everybody...I've downloaded mplayer but there is not a graphical
interface... and how do I configure it?


   Thanks
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Re: load script at bootup

2007-08-24 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:


I also have a script that I want to start at boot time and I simply
symlinked it to /usr/local/etc/rc.d/
It starts fine but now I wonder if maybe this is not the proper way to
start up scripts?

 

I don't think there's anything wrong with that solution, and I myself 
prefer it.  (I symlink from a CVSed area).  rc.d is very flexible and 
everything that happens at boot time is all in one (or two :-)) places.  
And you can run something every time the machine is shut down as well as 
when it's rebooted.  Can't do that with cron :-)


£0.02

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Re: harassed by mplayer on FreeBSD-6.1-R amd64

2007-08-24 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 12:33:19PM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, everybody...I've downloaded mplayer but there is not a graphical
 interface... and how do I configure it?

It is configured in the default build. It is called 'gmplayer'.  But you
might want to try building mplayer locally, so you can make a better
choice wrt the codecs you want. E.g, in the default build, the H.264
codec is not enabled. Neither are the esound or arts sound
systems. 

Add your choice of dvd devices to /etc/make.conf;

.if ${.CURDIR:M*/multimedia/mplayer}
WITH_DVD_DEVICE=/dev/cd1
WITH_CDROM_DEVICE=/dev/cd1
.endif

Deinstall the package, then go to /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer,
and issue 'make config' and then 'make install clean' as root. 

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Re[2]: Postfix/SpamAssassin Guru?

2007-08-24 Thread Gerard
On August 24, 2007 at 10:34AM Eric Crist wrote:

{snip]

 I've got Postfix with Dovecot and virtual users setup.  What I'm  
 looking for is some filtering based on the flags SpamAssassin sets,  
 so that I can route any messages tagged as Spam to a Spam directory  
 with a users maildir.  I've done a ton of searches, etc, and I can't  
 seem to figure this one out.  Also, I'm having a hard time (partially  
 due to lack of effort, I'm guessing), getting DKIM/DomainKeys setup  
 for my domains within Postfix.

Have you tried posting on the 'Spamassassin' list also? That is
probably where this message belongs. The DKIM problem should be
directed to the Postfix forum for best results.

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Re: Test on FreeBSD site

2007-08-24 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Bill Moran wrote:

I haven't noticed if the mail servers are doing greylisting, but it 
wouldn't surprise me if they were.


They do.

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Re: Postfix/SpamAssassin Guru?

2007-08-24 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Friday, August 24, 2007 09:46:32 -0500 Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



Eric Crist wrote:


This is also a reply to Paul Schmehl.

I've got Postfix with Dovecot and virtual users setup.  What I'm looking
for is some filtering based on the flags SpamAssassin sets, so that I
can route any messages tagged as Spam to a Spam directory with a users
maildir.  I've done a ton of searches, etc, and I can't seem to figure
this one out.  Also, I'm having a hard time (partially due to lack of
effort, I'm guessing), getting DKIM/DomainKeys setup for my domains
within Postfix.



Same setup here basically: Dovecot, Postfix, SA, clamav, postgrey and
amavisd

i use procmail to filter things. it works well and was easy to integrate.
I never played with DKIM though.

I must say that most of the spam that does come in I never see in a spam
folder. its too high on the scores to even get delivered

if you havent played with postgrey yet, give it a whirl. it works wonders.


You may also want to consider using policyd-weight 
(/usr/ports/mail/postfix-policyd-weight).  A mail server I maintain is 
rejecting about 80% of the mail through policyd-weight before it ever 
reaches postfix (no false positives.)


You should be able to use dkfilter to handle domain keys:
/usr/ports]# make search name=dkfilter
Port:   dkfilter-0.11
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/dkfilter
Info:   Domainkeys filter for Postfix

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How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions

2007-08-24 Thread Greg Lehey

How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions.
===

Last update $Date: 2005/08/10 02:21:44 $

This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list.  If
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If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you
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I:Introduction
II:   How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions
III:  Should I ask -questions or -hackers?
IV:   How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions
V:How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions

I: Introduction
===

This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from
FreeBSD-questions (the newcomers), and also those who answer the
questions (the hackers).

   Note that the term hacker has nothing to do with breaking
   into other people's computers.  The correct term for the latter
   activity is cracker, but the popular press hasn't found out
   yet.  The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking
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In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the
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In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration
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The Complete FreeBSD: errata and addenda

2007-08-24 Thread Greg Lehey
The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page
or any other online documentation.  The result is that most leading edge
computer books are out of date almost before they are printed.  Unfortunately,
The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception.  Inevitably, a
number of bugs and changes have surfaced.

The Complete FreeBSD has been through a total of five editions, including its
predecessor Installing and Running FreeBSD.  Two of these have been reprinted
with corrections.  I maintain a series of errata pages.  Start at
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information.

Note also that the book has now been released for free download in PDF
form.  Instead of downloading the changed pages, you may prefer to
download the entire book.  See http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ 
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Laptop compat : dell vostro 1700

2007-08-24 Thread Olivier GARNIER
Hi,


I wonder if someone has already tested FreeBSD on Dell VOSTRO laptop.
In particulary, Vostro 1700.
If you have done it please fil in http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/

Thks,

Olivier

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Re: Gnome issues

2007-08-24 Thread Michael S
Thanks Derek,
I'll scan the drive using both methods, as soon as I
get back home.

--- Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 At 06:46 AM 8/24/2007, Michael S wrote:
 Good day all,
 
 I installed Gnome a few days ago and everything had
 been fine up until last night. I shutdown the
 computer
 using  a Gnome menu (and not shutdown -p now) and
 upon
 restart one of my drives (the one mapped to /home)
 wasn't working. After I did get it to work and able
 to
 return to using GNOME, but when I login using GDM,
 I
 don't see the desktop pager and the windows don't
 have
 any decorations (e.g. borders, close/minimize
 buttons). I am not an expert, but looks like the
 window manager got corrupted by that improper
 shutdown.
 Anyone had similar experiences? Any ideas how to
 rectify this?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Michael
 
 Sounds like your drive may be having issues.  I
 would reboot in single user 
 mode and fsck the drive.  You may also want to try
 the drive manufacturer's 
 diagnostic utility.
 
  -Derek
 
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Installation Disc Won't Boot

2007-08-24 Thread lawrence.petrykanyn


  Hi,

  I am unable to boot from 6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso.  I have
  downloaded it and burned it three times without success.

  I am currently running Win98SE and FreeBSD 5.4 on a dual boot.  I had
  decided to reformat my hard drives so I reinstalled Win98SE and would
  like to install FreeBSD 6.2.  I downloaded the disc 1 iso image and
  burned it to a disc in Win98.  I had to boot from my CDrom to
  reinstall Win98 so I know that my boot priority is correct and that my
  CDrom is working properly.  I looked at the burned cd with the
  6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso file on it in FreeBSD 5.4 and everything
  appears to be there, including a folder called 'boot'.  But I just
  can't seem to boot from it.

  1.  Is there something simple I'm missing?
  2.  Should I just try downloading (it takes four hours) and burning
  more copies again?  (I've already done it three times...)
  3.  Is the fact that I'm burning it in Win98 a problem?
  4.  Is there anything I can do in FreeBSD 5.4 to see if the file is
  corrupted?

  BTW - I installed FreeBSD 5.4 from discs that I purchased through
  FreeBSD Mall.  I thought I would do it from the 6.2-RELEASE
  i386-disc1.iso file on FreeBSD's web site this time.

  Any suggestions, advice, or comments would be greatly appreciated.

  Thanks,
  Larry
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Re: Gnome issues

2007-08-24 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Derek Ragona wrote:

At 06:46 AM 8/24/2007, Michael S wrote:

Good day all,

I installed Gnome a few days ago and everything had
been fine up until last night. I shutdown the computer
using  a Gnome menu (and not shutdown -p now) and upon
restart one of my drives (the one mapped to /home)
wasn't working. After I did get it to work and able to
return to using GNOME, but when I login using GDM, I
don't see the desktop pager and the windows don't have
any decorations (e.g. borders, close/minimize
buttons). I am not an expert, but looks like the
window manager got corrupted by that improper
shutdown.
Anyone had similar experiences? Any ideas how to
rectify this?

Thanks in advance,
Michael


Sounds like your drive may be having issues.  I would reboot in single 
user mode and fsck the drive.  You may also want to try the drive 
manufacturer's diagnostic utility.


-Derek


I always shutdown computer using Gnome menu. Never had that issue. I am 
clueless why is that happening to you. I think Derek gave you a good idea.

Predrag

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Re: harassed by mplayer on FreeBSD-6.1-R amd64

2007-08-24 Thread Predrag Punosevac

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi, everybody...I've downloaded mplayer but there is not a graphical
interface... and how do I configure it?


   Thanks
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What do you mean there is no graphical interface? When you type gmplayer 
what do you get? I get graphical interface.

For the list of the commands from the command line just type mplayer.

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Re: Installation Disc Won't Boot

2007-08-24 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 17:49:30 +
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
Hi,
 
I am unable to boot from 6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso.  I have
downloaded it and burned it three times without success.
 
I am currently running Win98SE and FreeBSD 5.4 on a dual boot.  I
 had decided to reformat my hard drives so I reinstalled Win98SE and
 would like to install FreeBSD 6.2.  I downloaded the disc 1 iso image
 and burned it to a disc in Win98.  I had to boot from my CDrom to
reinstall Win98 so I know that my boot priority is correct and
 that my CDrom is working properly.  I looked at the burned cd with the
6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso file on it in FreeBSD 5.4 and everything
appears to be there, including a folder called 'boot'.  But I just
can't seem to boot from it.
 
1.  Is there something simple I'm missing?
2.  Should I just try downloading (it takes four hours) and burning
more copies again?  (I've already done it three times...)
3.  Is the fact that I'm burning it in Win98 a problem?
4.  Is there anything I can do in FreeBSD 5.4 to see if the file is
corrupted?

Larry,

Is there any error message, such as Read Error: 0x..., Could not find
Primary Volume Descriptor?

Nikola Lečić
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Re: Gnome issues

2007-08-24 Thread Michael S
It definitely is not a new drive, but after shutting
down with shutdown -p it never happened.

I'll see what happens later today.
--- Predrag Punosevac [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Derek Ragona wrote:
  At 06:46 AM 8/24/2007, Michael S wrote:
  Good day all,
 
  I installed Gnome a few days ago and everything
 had
  been fine up until last night. I shutdown the
 computer
  using  a Gnome menu (and not shutdown -p now) and
 upon
  restart one of my drives (the one mapped to
 /home)
  wasn't working. After I did get it to work and
 able to
  return to using GNOME, but when I login using
 GDM, I
  don't see the desktop pager and the windows don't
 have
  any decorations (e.g. borders, close/minimize
  buttons). I am not an expert, but looks like the
  window manager got corrupted by that improper
  shutdown.
  Anyone had similar experiences? Any ideas how to
  rectify this?
 
  Thanks in advance,
  Michael
 
  Sounds like your drive may be having issues.  I
 would reboot in single 
  user mode and fsck the drive.  You may also want
 to try the drive 
  manufacturer's diagnostic utility.
 
  -Derek
 
 I always shutdown computer using Gnome menu. Never
 had that issue. I am 
 clueless why is that happening to you. I think Derek
 gave you a good idea.
 Predrag
 
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Re: Installation Disc Won't Boot

2007-08-24 Thread Adam J Richardson

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  1.  Is there something simple I'm missing?
  2.  Should I just try downloading (it takes four hours) and burning
  more copies again?  (I've already done it three times...)
  3.  Is the fact that I'm burning it in Win98 a problem?
  4.  Is there anything I can do in FreeBSD 5.4 to see if the file is
  corrupted?


Hi Larry.

Could it be the quality of the media you're burning to? I don't know if 
it's still a problem, but it used to be. These days I always make sure 
to burn to Verbatim discs, as I've heard many good reports of their 
manufacturing process as compared to others. It could be that you've 
just got a bad batch of discs.


Here's another thought, why not try making a copy of your FreeBSD 5.4 
install disc? That should indicate whether the fault appears at download 
time or burn time.


HtH,
Adam J Richardson
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Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-24 Thread dgmm
On Friday 24 August 2007, Paul Schmehl wrote:
 On Thursday, August 23, 2007 22:37:53 +0100 dgmm [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
  Basically, what you (and others as well) are suggesting is that the list
  maintainers do double the work so that you don't have to bother with
  spam filtering.
 
  How does this equate to double the work for the list maintainers?  I've
  never  operated a mailing list so I don't understand what work is
  involved in  operating one or how that workload might be increased if
  some people post  with one name while having the automated system mail
  out to a different,  subscribed address

 Most modern mailing list software tests addresses periodically,
 automatically to make sure they are accepting mail.  Some have suggested
 solving the spam problem by using throwaway addresses to send email to
 the list **even if the address doesn't work**.  Now the maintainers have to
 maintain a separate list of exemptions and configure separate options so
 that those throwaway addresses aren't dropped from the list automatically
 after the requisite number of bounces.  And endure the endless bounce
 notifications from hundreds of thoughtless people.

You're looking at it the from the wrong perspective.  From what you say above, 
so long as the posting address is valid and accepts mail either correctly 
or dumps it to /dev/nul then if I choose use two separate email addresses the 
only people affected are those who try to reply directly to said posting 
address, ie, on the whole, spammers.

  Seems rather self-centered to me.
 
  In what way?

 You have a problem.  You want someone else to help you solve it by creating
 more work for them so that you'll have less work to do.

No, actually I don't have a problem.  I was making a suggestion which might be 
useful to the original poster.  Even it it was my problem, I don't see how 
doing as I've outlined above would create more work for anyone.

  This is the internet.  Spam is endemic.
 
  So rather than look for multiple methods to reduce the amount of incoming
  to  *my* address I should just accept it all and filter it locally?

 Absolutely.  It isn't the responsibility of the rest of the world to solve
 your problem.

splendid isolation.  I wonder where FreeBSD would be today if all the 
developers and users took that attitude.

  That seems rather irresponsible to me,  ANy method which can help stop it
  source appeaers on the face of it to be a better solution.

 Of course it does, because it requires no work on your part.  It's always
 better if you can get someone else to expend energy on your behalf while
 you sit back and reap the benefits.  That's why unthinking people love
 socialism.

Or maybe it how unthinking people think socialism works.  What you just 
described is exactly how capitalism works.

  Short of encasing your computer in
  concrete, there's no way to avoid getting spam **even if you never post
  to a mailing list**.  Either learn to deal with it or stop subscribing
  to lists.
 
  I'm sure that attitude will appear welcoming to new users.

 Gee, I'm sorry I hurt someone's feelings by suggesting they take
 responsibility for their own problems.  Let me get down on my knees and beg
 forgiveness.

Not at all.  Your perspective is interesting.  As is that of others who have 
posted to this thread.

 I subscribe to more than 50 lists.  You have no idea what a pleasure it is
 to read, over and over again, about other people's problems with spam.
 It's useless chatter that solves nothing and makes the list less valuable.
 (And yes, you do enough of it, and I'll /dev/null your address and never
 hear from you again.)  If people took a few minutes to figure out how to
 rid themselves of the spam, they'd accomplish more than all the endless
 discussions about how to solve an unsolveable problem.

I think we'll just have to agree to differ on this.  it's way OT for here now 
so I won't be making any more posts on this subject.


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Re: /var or /usr for data?

2007-08-24 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 08:19:43AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:

 It would appear that the proper allocation of filesystems on FreeBSD is
 to put all data in /usr.  I'm used to this and have been doing it for
 years.
 
 my favourite proper allocation is to make ONE partition (/) and nothing 
 more. and forget all problems about how to partition your drive right...

That works for some situations.  But, there are protections, conveniences
and backup efficiencies that thoughtful partitioning provide that
all-in-one doesn't.

jerry

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Re: Installation Disc Won't Boot

2007-08-24 Thread Manolis Kiagias
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hi,

   I am unable to boot from 6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso.  I have
   downloaded it and burned it three times without success.

   I am currently running Win98SE and FreeBSD 5.4 on a dual boot.  I had
   decided to reformat my hard drives so I reinstalled Win98SE and would
   like to install FreeBSD 6.2.  I downloaded the disc 1 iso image and
   burned it to a disc in Win98.  I had to boot from my CDrom to
   reinstall Win98 so I know that my boot priority is correct and that my
   CDrom is working properly.  I looked at the burned cd with the
   6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso file on it in FreeBSD 5.4 and everything
   appears to be there, including a folder called 'boot'.  But I just
   can't seem to boot from it.

   1.  Is there something simple I'm missing?

Could be that you are burning the file as a real file on a disk instead
of burning it as an image?
You need to select the option from your program that is similar to
create cd from iso image

   2.  Should I just try downloading (it takes four hours) and burning
   more copies again?  (I've already done it three times...)

No. Instead you should check the file you already downloaded

   3.  Is the fact that I'm burning it in Win98 a problem?

Not really, no

   4.  Is there anything I can do in FreeBSD 5.4 to see if the file is
   corrupted?

Yes. From the site you downloaded the iso files, download the CHECKSUM
files as well.
There are two of them, CHEKSUM.md5 and CHECKSUM.SHA256
One would be enough to validate your download. For example look at the
CHECKSUM.md5 file:
For disk1, the checksum is:

MD5 (6.2-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso) = 3d27214700687c0b5390e8b6dd3706e3

you can validate this with the md5 command from FreeBSD, or if you don't
wish to reboot from win98, here is and md5 command for windows:

http://www.fourmilab.ch/md5/md5.zip

use something like:

md5 6.2-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso

and compare the output to the one on the file.
   BTW - I installed FreeBSD 5.4 from discs that I purchased through
   FreeBSD Mall.  I thought I would do it from the 6.2-RELEASE
   i386-disc1.iso file on FreeBSD's web site this time.


I've bought stuff from them: copies of the handbook, tshirts, sticker,
beastie dolls :)
Good service.

   Any suggestions, advice, or comments would be greatly appreciated.

   Thanks,
   Larry
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Re: Installation Disc Won't Boot

2007-08-24 Thread Joao Barros
On 8/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

I am unable to boot from 6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso.  I have
downloaded it and burned it three times without success.

I am currently running Win98SE and FreeBSD 5.4 on a dual boot.  I had
decided to reformat my hard drives so I reinstalled Win98SE and would
like to install FreeBSD 6.2.  I downloaded the disc 1 iso image and
burned it to a disc in Win98.  I had to boot from my CDrom to
reinstall Win98 so I know that my boot priority is correct and that my
CDrom is working properly.  I looked at the burned cd with the
6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso file on it in FreeBSD 5.4 and everything
appears to be there, including a folder called 'boot'.  But I just
can't seem to boot from it.

1.  Is there something simple I'm missing?
2.  Should I just try downloading (it takes four hours) and burning
more copies again?  (I've already done it three times...)
3.  Is the fact that I'm burning it in Win98 a problem?
4.  Is there anything I can do in FreeBSD 5.4 to see if the file is
corrupted?

BTW - I installed FreeBSD 5.4 from discs that I purchased through
FreeBSD Mall.  I thought I would do it from the 6.2-RELEASE
i386-disc1.iso file on FreeBSD's web site this time.

Any suggestions, advice, or comments would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Larry

Do you have a Promise controller?
I have to disable my onboard Promise so that I can boot from a FreeBSD CD

My Promise:
atapci0: Promise PDC20319 SATA150 controller port
0xb000-0xb03f,0xb400-0xb40f,0xb800-0xb87f mem
0xfc024000-0xfc024fff,0xfc00-0xfc01 irq 23 at device 4.0 on
pci4

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:4:0:   class=0x010400 card=0x80f51043 chip=0x3319105a
rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Promise Technology Inc'
device = 'PDC20319(??) FastTrak SATA150 TX4 Controller'
class  = mass storage
subclass   = RAID

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Dell 2950: 4GB not seen (amd64; works on other 2950:s)

2007-08-24 Thread Peter Schuller
Hello,

I have a Dell 2950 where my 7-CURRENT amd64 FreeBSD does not see all visible 
memory. It has 4 GB of physical RAM. dmesg on boot includes:

usable memory = 4280811520 (4082 MB)
avail memory  = 4117716992 (3926 MB)

Yet summing memories visible in top yields ~ 2100 MB.

Of note is that I have 6.2/amd64 on several other 2950:s with 4GB of RAM which 
say on boot:

real memory  = 5100273664 (4864 MB)
avail memory = 4122443776 (3931 MB)

But has all 4 GB visible in top.

Unfortunately I failed to notice this until after the machine has begun being 
used, so I have limited possibilities for rebooting/mucking with BIOS 
settings. I was hoping someone could suggest something right off the bat.

In addition on the problem machine the following sysctl values are present:

hw.physmem: 4280811520
hw.usermem: 3628220416
hw.realmem: 5100273664
hw.cbb.start_memory: 2281701376
hw.pci.host_mem_start: 2147483648

With hw.usermem being slightly higher (but not 2 GB higher) on the 6.2 system 
without a problem:

hw.physmem: 4283285504
hw.usermem: 3998797824
hw.realmem: 5100273664
hw.cbb.start_memory: 2281701376
hw.pci.host_mem_start: 2147483648

I was under the impression that memory visibility issues were a thing of the 
past on amd64. Any insight?

Thanks!

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Re: Minimal gateway hardware configuration

2007-08-24 Thread Bahman M.
  Then my configuration is not minimal I'd say :-)
  Thanks.

 so make use of it's huge power. first make gateway, then add squid at
 least. possibly mail etc.
A question out of subject:
Do I need to install in such conditions: a network composed of one
gateway and two other nodes at maximum and a slow connection? I mean
does it improve anything?

Bahman
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Re: SATA to PCI cards

2007-08-24 Thread Bahman M.
   Yes, I've had good luck with the Promise brand PCI-SATA cards on 6.x. We
 are
   using this method to evolve older machines to SATA.
 Thanks for the hint. Would you tell me why did you choose Promise
 brand as it's expensive compared to the other brands?
 
 Bahman
 

 I chose Promise because all of their products I've ever bought have worked
 for me in disk management. It was a roll of the dice as to it would work or
 not. Plus, it was the only card the vendor had that I have used for years.

 Thus, no guarantee for all, but they have worked on sever different
 motherboards so far and all are running fbsd-6.x (mostly 6.2).
I understand. Thanks for your patience.
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Re: SATA to PCI cards

2007-08-24 Thread Bahman M.
  I'm running FreeBSD 6.2.
  $ uname -a
  FreeBSD attila 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 10:40:27
  UTC 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
i386
  
  My motherboard which is an ASUS A7V8X-X doesn't support SATA. I
  searched the internet and found out that there are SATA to PCI cards
  for my situation. Is anyone using such cards? Will they cause any
  problem with FreeBSD 6.2?
  
  By the way, I'd appreciate any suggestions for a good SATA to PCI card to
  buy.

 I've had a huge sata issue with my promise card since I added two need
 sata3.0 disks to my two old sata1.5 disks.  Turning off smartd seemed
 to make it go away, however.  Never had issues with a promise board
 before.  In the interim I bought a HiPoint, which appears to be the
 cadillac of sub-$300 cards, but I've yet to tweak the drivers into a
 functiona state.  I also tried one of the $19 cards and was told by
 this list that they have drivers and appear to work fine, but will
 corrupt your data bigtime, crash unexpectedly, etc.  Mine was a
 rosewill card, but lots of vendors are using the $19 variants.

As I explored the archives I came up with some posts reporting
problems with Promise cards, mostly on CURRENT though. Looks like I
should search a bit more. Thanks.
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Re: Installation Disc Won't Boot

2007-08-24 Thread Derek Ragona

At 12:49 PM 8/24/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Hi,

  I am unable to boot from 6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso.  I have
  downloaded it and burned it three times without success.

  I am currently running Win98SE and FreeBSD 5.4 on a dual boot.  I had
  decided to reformat my hard drives so I reinstalled Win98SE and would
  like to install FreeBSD 6.2.  I downloaded the disc 1 iso image and
  burned it to a disc in Win98.  I had to boot from my CDrom to
  reinstall Win98 so I know that my boot priority is correct and that my
  CDrom is working properly.  I looked at the burned cd with the
  6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso file on it in FreeBSD 5.4 and everything
  appears to be there, including a folder called 'boot'.  But I just
  can't seem to boot from it.

  1.  Is there something simple I'm missing?
  2.  Should I just try downloading (it takes four hours) and burning
  more copies again?  (I've already done it three times...)
  3.  Is the fact that I'm burning it in Win98 a problem?
  4.  Is there anything I can do in FreeBSD 5.4 to see if the file is
  corrupted?

  BTW - I installed FreeBSD 5.4 from discs that I purchased through
  FreeBSD Mall.  I thought I would do it from the 6.2-RELEASE
  i386-disc1.iso file on FreeBSD's web site this time.

  Any suggestions, advice, or comments would be greatly appreciated.

  Thanks,
  Larry


Is the CD you burn readable under windows or FreeBSD?  If it is readable, 
check your BIOS settings and turnoff any video ram shadow, if it is turned on.


I have one older system which I thought had trouble booting the 6.2 
disc.  I tried my disc out on another system, and saw when this boots it 
puts up the FreeBSD boot menu, and waits for response.  After seeing this, 
and turning off the video shadow, I tried to boot it on my older server 
again.  This time I was seeing the bootmenu 10 second countdown, while none 
of the other boot menu was visible.  After hitting enter a couple times the 
countdown started ticking down, and the system booted and launched 
sysinstall.  I was able then to do a upgrade on this server from 5.5 to 6.2.


-Derek

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Re: Dell 2950: 4GB not seen (amd64; works on other 2950:s)

2007-08-24 Thread Derek Ragona

At 02:48 PM 8/24/2007, Peter Schuller wrote:

Hello,

I have a Dell 2950 where my 7-CURRENT amd64 FreeBSD does not see all visible
memory. It has 4 GB of physical RAM. dmesg on boot includes:

usable memory = 4280811520 (4082 MB)
avail memory  = 4117716992 (3926 MB)

Yet summing memories visible in top yields ~ 2100 MB.

Of note is that I have 6.2/amd64 on several other 2950:s with 4GB of RAM 
which

say on boot:

real memory  = 5100273664 (4864 MB)
avail memory = 4122443776 (3931 MB)

But has all 4 GB visible in top.

Unfortunately I failed to notice this until after the machine has begun being
used, so I have limited possibilities for rebooting/mucking with BIOS
settings. I was hoping someone could suggest something right off the bat.

In addition on the problem machine the following sysctl values are present:

hw.physmem: 4280811520
hw.usermem: 3628220416
hw.realmem: 5100273664
hw.cbb.start_memory: 2281701376
hw.pci.host_mem_start: 2147483648

With hw.usermem being slightly higher (but not 2 GB higher) on the 6.2 system
without a problem:

hw.physmem: 4283285504
hw.usermem: 3998797824
hw.realmem: 5100273664
hw.cbb.start_memory: 2281701376
hw.pci.host_mem_start: 2147483648

I was under the impression that memory visibility issues were a thing of the
past on amd64. Any insight?

Thanks!

--
/ Peter Schuller


You need to look closely at the hardware configuration for these servers 
and their motherboards.  Often some memory is reserved for things like 
onboard video, etc.  You can free up that video memory by adding a separate 
video card, but necessarily other memory that may be used by the 
motherboard.  Unfortunately with dell systems same model's don't 
necessarily mean same motherboard.  Also, how memory is used via the BIOS 
is dependent on the BIOS version.  You should try to be sure all systems 
you want to compare have the same motherboard and chipset and that these 
also have the same BIOS version.


-Derek




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Re: Dell 2950: 4GB not seen (amd64; works on other 2950:s)

2007-08-24 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 At 02:48 PM 8/24/2007, Peter Schuller wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have a Dell 2950 where my 7-CURRENT amd64 FreeBSD does not see all visible
 memory. It has 4 GB of physical RAM. dmesg on boot includes:
 
 usable memory = 4280811520 (4082 MB)
 avail memory  = 4117716992 (3926 MB)
 
 Yet summing memories visible in top yields ~ 2100 MB.
 
 Of note is that I have 6.2/amd64 on several other 2950:s with 4GB of RAM 
 which
 say on boot:
 
 real memory  = 5100273664 (4864 MB)
 avail memory = 4122443776 (3931 MB)
 
 But has all 4 GB visible in top.
 
 Unfortunately I failed to notice this until after the machine has begun being
 used, so I have limited possibilities for rebooting/mucking with BIOS
 settings. I was hoping someone could suggest something right off the bat.
 
 In addition on the problem machine the following sysctl values are present:
 
 hw.physmem: 4280811520
 hw.usermem: 3628220416
 hw.realmem: 5100273664
 hw.cbb.start_memory: 2281701376
 hw.pci.host_mem_start: 2147483648
 
 With hw.usermem being slightly higher (but not 2 GB higher) on the 6.2 system
 without a problem:
 
 hw.physmem: 4283285504
 hw.usermem: 3998797824
 hw.realmem: 5100273664
 hw.cbb.start_memory: 2281701376
 hw.pci.host_mem_start: 2147483648
 
 I was under the impression that memory visibility issues were a thing of the
 past on amd64. Any insight?
 
 Thanks!
 
 --
 / Peter Schuller
 
 You need to look closely at the hardware configuration for these servers 
 and their motherboards.  Often some memory is reserved for things like 
 onboard video, etc.  You can free up that video memory by adding a separate 
 video card, but necessarily other memory that may be used by the 
 motherboard.  Unfortunately with dell systems same model's don't 
 necessarily mean same motherboard.  Also, how memory is used via the BIOS 
 is dependent on the BIOS version.  You should try to be sure all systems 
 you want to compare have the same motherboard and chipset and that these 
 also have the same BIOS version.

Derek triggered a thought ... I believe the 2950s have the ability to
do RAM RAID1, to increase RAM reliability.  If that belief is correct,
it could be that you've got 4G physically in the machine, but only 2G
logically available to the OS.

At least, I think I remember seeing an option like that in a BIOS ...

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Re: Installation Disc Won't Boot

2007-08-24 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 03:28:54PM -0500, Derek Ragona wrote:

 At 12:49 PM 8/24/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Hi,
 
   I am unable to boot from 6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso.  I have
   downloaded it and burned it three times without success.
 
   I am currently running Win98SE and FreeBSD 5.4 on a dual boot.  I had
   decided to reformat my hard drives so I reinstalled Win98SE and would
   like to install FreeBSD 6.2.  I downloaded the disc 1 iso image and
   burned it to a disc in Win98.  I had to boot from my CDrom to
   reinstall Win98 so I know that my boot priority is correct and that my
   CDrom is working properly.  I looked at the burned cd with the
   6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso file on it in FreeBSD 5.4 and everything
   appears to be there, including a folder called 'boot'.  But I just
   can't seem to boot from it.
 
   1.  Is there something simple I'm missing?
   2.  Should I just try downloading (it takes four hours) and burning
   more copies again?  (I've already done it three times...)
   3.  Is the fact that I'm burning it in Win98 a problem?
   4.  Is there anything I can do in FreeBSD 5.4 to see if the file is
   corrupted?
 
   BTW - I installed FreeBSD 5.4 from discs that I purchased through
   FreeBSD Mall.  I thought I would do it from the 6.2-RELEASE
   i386-disc1.iso file on FreeBSD's web site this time.
 
   Any suggestions, advice, or comments would be greatly appreciated.
 
   Thanks,
   Larry

One thing that comes to mind, besides things other people have said.   
When you burned the CD, did you tell the software to create a bootable ISO?
You shouldn't do that.  It is already a bootable ISO and needs to be 
burned as a 'raw' file, directly to the CD.   Having it try to make an ISO
of an already created ISO might still leave the rest of the files readable, 
so it might look OK to a quick check, but I don't know.  I haven't tried
that.

I don't know if the term 'raw' is the correct one, but definitely, you 
need to not use any option that tries to make a bootable ISO as that 
will mangle the boot stuff already on it.   

So, if that is the problem, you will have to burn another CD.  
It shouldn't matter if you burn it under MS-Win as long as it
doesn't try to create a bootable ISO from it first.

jerry

 
 Is the CD you burn readable under windows or FreeBSD?  If it is readable, 
 check your BIOS settings and turnoff any video ram shadow, if it is turned 
 on.
 
 I have one older system which I thought had trouble booting the 6.2 
 disc.  I tried my disc out on another system, and saw when this boots it 
 puts up the FreeBSD boot menu, and waits for response.  After seeing this, 
 and turning off the video shadow, I tried to boot it on my older server 
 again.  This time I was seeing the bootmenu 10 second countdown, while none 
 of the other boot menu was visible.  After hitting enter a couple times the 
 countdown started ticking down, and the system booted and launched 
 sysinstall.  I was able then to do a upgrade on this server from 5.5 to 6.2.
 
 -Derek
 
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Linksys Wireless-N WMP300-N Card

2007-08-24 Thread Gerard
Has anyone used the Linksys Wireless-N WMP300-N card with FBSD-6.2? I
am considering installing it into one of my FBSD machines. I have an
identical card in a WinXP machine, and it works flawlessly. Obviously,
I have a router that supports the 'N' protocol involved.

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Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-24 Thread Glen Barber
 
 Basically, what you (and others as well) are suggesting is that
 the list maintainers do double the work so that you don't have
 to bother with spam filtering.


Actually, the list maintainer has already done something to prevent spam
harvesting -- something I didn't see mentioned in this 'thread' (and if
it was mentioned, I appologize.)

When you subscribe to (some) mailing lists, there is an option Conceal
yourself from subscriber list?  Not as powerful as filters, I agree, but
it is a small thing that helps to combat spam.   


Also, earlier in this thread, someone mentioned about using a gmail
account for mailing lists.  I think it's a great idea, because that is
the approach I've taken.  The only problem I face with GMail, is some
messages sent to mailing lists get marked as spam -- rarely.  Within the
past 3 months, I've received 1 actual spam message.  And that is without
any extra filters, other than sorting mail by label.
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Re: Postfix/SpamAssassin Guru?

2007-08-24 Thread Peter Boosten


Eric Crist wrote:
 On Aug 24, 2007, at 9:05 AMAug 24, 2007, Gerard wrote:
 
 On August 24, 2007 at 09:32AM Eric Crist wrote:


 
 I've got Postfix with Dovecot and virtual users setup.  What I'm looking
 for is some filtering based on the flags SpamAssassin sets, so that I
 can route any messages tagged as Spam to a Spam directory with a users
 maildir.  

Assuming you got SA running:
In my main.cf:
header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/header_checks


This is in my header_checks:

/^X-Spam-Flag: YES/ REDIRECT [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-24 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 01:17:48PM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote:
 On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:19:06 -0700
 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Hi Gary et al,
 rather than filtering on one by one basis, why not just setup your mail server
 to do the whole job for you, using spamassassin (or your other anti-spam
 software), with dynamic filters ( like razor and DCC (i think it's called) ). 
 I
 have (cheking...) about 7 *active* email address in my mail client, subscribed
 to many mailing lists (12 of those @freebsd.org). Some of those email 
 addresses
 are used in contact details of many domain registrations.


I'm going to try spamd (if pf and ipf don't conflict).  It may
take awhile to get thru alll thewriteups and howto's, but it'l be
interesting to see the results.  
 
  All of them behind similarly configured servers. I have all the spam tagged
 and moved to Trash on sight. Out of all the email I receive (which usually is
 several hundred / day), I may have to manually delete 10 spam , uncaught 
 emails
 (all up). I haven't so far found out about a false positive in several years
 of using this setup. 
 
 I may be lucky enough that I have a couple of
 Mbps of bandwidth @ home to handle my email load, but none of the tools I use
 are commercial, and they are VERY well documented. 


When I'm finished with my thesis (! on computers:-), maybe you
can share your  docs on my bsd web site.  It has zero ads and is
still a work-in-progress.   But maybe we can all cut/paste from
existing (and free, if copyright) articles on slowing down this
slimy ooze of spam.  

 
 BTW, that ratio is far smaller than the amount of tree-based spam I get on my
 home mailbox each day. 
 
 I also have a catch-all email address to see what comes my way - i see higher
 number of uncaught spam there (which then goes to feed my Bayes filters), so i
 doubt that blaming @freebsd.org servers has anything to do with receiving more
 spam.
 
 In summary, the trick as always is to properly use the tools at hand.


exactly, and there are just enough of us commmitted (hard-core)
to the Open Source model to have the tools.  or create them.

cheers,

gary

 
 regards,
 B
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 I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet.
 Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been
 Warned.

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best way to keep track of new developments

2007-08-24 Thread Jonathan Horne
im due for a new laptop at work, which will likely be an HP NC6400 (our 
standard).  an otherwise really nice laptop, but with 2 showstoppers:

intel 3945 wireless
ati x1300 graphics

i know there has been some development here and there to try to get these guys 
to work in freebsd.  whats the best way to keep track of who owns these 
projects, and to follow with intrest how the work is going?  ive been testing 
freebsd with these NC6400s (before they are deployed out to the users who 
they were ordered for), and so far, these are the first 2 pieces of hardware 
that have not worked out of the box for me.

thanks,
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Re: best way to keep track of new developments

2007-08-24 Thread Adam J Richardson

Jonathan Horne wrote:

intel 3945 wireless


Hi Jonathan.

Ben Close is working on the wpi driver for the Intel 3945abg. Check out 
his progress at http://www.clearchain.com/wiki/Wpi . It's been really 
close to working for a few months now, and there's a new tarball out. I 
haven't tested it yet though.


HtH,
Adam J Richardson
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Re: Test on FreeBSD site

2007-08-24 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-08-24 06:36, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In response to NetOpsCenter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  How long does it take for a test to be accepted or rejected on the
  FreeBSD test mail box?  Is three minutes normal for a test to pop
  up?  I had some FreeBSD 7 config issues and this nearly caused me to
  think I hadn't cleared the problem  because it took quite a while to
  pop up.

 It depends on how busy the server is at the time you send it, among
 other factors.  I haven't noticed if the mail servers are doing
 greylisting, but it wouldn't surprise me if they were.

They are.  It may take a few minutes before a message gets through, but
that depends on how often the *sending* server retries.

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Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list

2007-08-24 Thread Steve Bertrand
...I will feed...

The solution to this problem is...if you don't like what you are into,
get yourself out of the situation.

Anyone who finds the information on this list non-informative enough to
complain about a few spam per week that make it through a spam filter,
then it isn't worth your time and you are on the wrong list.

I belong to ~40 mailing lists. They all see spam. The info I gain from
the lists is far more important. Well more than half of the lists
display the full address in the header. It's by design, and it has
always worked. I would not have it changed. Most MLM's have an option to
obscure/hide your address, as someone has already stated.

Seriously, the standard 'user' coming from Windows to FreeBSD should
never be expected to immediately be pushed into doing something for
themselves.

However, someone who decides to operate on a Road Runner cable
connection and relay their mail through a:

mail-03.name-services.com Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service, Version:
6.0.3790.3959

...server, should immediately contact the person responsible for email
management and complain...

Moreover, those who use an address like:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

...as a technical and admin contact in the global WHOIS database for
their domain should reconsider complaining about anything.

Wow, I'd trust the fact that my abuse email would make it to a
responsible person.

We are all feeding the troll. The troll has not stated his name in any
of his emails. Is that you:

# whois a1poweruser.com | grep [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Whoever this is, has not replied in a while, at least under the original
email address. Can we leave well enough alone and get on with technical
stuff?

*sigh*

Steve
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Re: Installation Disc Won't Boot

2007-08-24 Thread Ian Smith
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 17:49:30 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am unable to boot from 6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso.  I have
 downloaded it and burned it three times without success.

See (4)

 I am currently running Win98SE and FreeBSD 5.4 on a dual boot.  I had
 decided to reformat my hard drives so I reinstalled Win98SE and would
 like to install FreeBSD 6.2.  I downloaded the disc 1 iso image and
 burned it to a disc in Win98.  I had to boot from my CDrom to
 reinstall Win98 so I know that my boot priority is correct and that my
 CDrom is working properly.  I looked at the burned cd with the
 6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso file on it in FreeBSD 5.4 and everything
 appears to be there, including a folder called 'boot'.  But I just
 can't seem to boot from it.
  
 1.  Is there something simple I'm missing?

Sounds like you might be just copying the .iso file to the CD, rather
than burning an image file from the .iso ? but it's not clear how you
'looked at it' from 5.4 .. what does it look like from W98?
 
 2.  Should I just try downloading (it takes four hours) and burning
 more copies again?  (I've already done it three times...)

See (4)

 3.  Is the fact that I'm burning it in Win98 a problem?

Shouldn't be; I've used both Adaptec CD whatsitcalled and Nero on '98
boxes to burn .iso files - but you do have to select the 'image' write,
and to be sure of a good burn maybe drop the write speed to say 4x 

If you've still got 5.4 installed you could use burncd(8) instead,
eg 'burncd -s 4 -f /dev/acd0 data fbsd6.2whatever.iso fixate' 

 4.  Is there anything I can do in FreeBSD 5.4 to see if the file is
 corrupted?

Yes; also download the (tiny) accompanying .md5 file, then you can run
md5(1) from FreeBSD 5.4 on the .iso file to check that its MD5 matches. 

When you look at the contents of the CD, either from W98 or from having
mounted it on FreeBSD 5.4, do you see files and directories on the CD,
or just the single .iso file?

 BTW - I installed FreeBSD 5.4 from discs that I purchased through
 FreeBSD Mall.  I thought I would do it from the 6.2-RELEASE
 i386-disc1.iso file on FreeBSD's web site this time.

Your burned image CD for 6.2 should look pretty much like your 5.4 CD in
structure.  If that's so and it still won't boot then you can try a copy
of everything on it to /dev/null (to test the CD is 100% readable).

If that's all good and it still won't boot, show us the error message/s?
 
Cheers, Ian

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time issue

2007-08-24 Thread Michael P. Soulier
Hello,

I recently noticed that my clock was running a few minutes slow, even though I
have ntpd running on the box. Now I'm seeing this on occasion. 

Aug 24 20:17:10 kanga dovecot: Time just moved backwards by 105 seconds. This
might c
ause a lot of problems, so I'll just kill myself now.
http://wiki.dovecot.org/TimeMov
edBackwards


Does this suggest a hardware clock issue?

Mike
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takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite
direction. --Albert Einstein


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Re: Test on FreeBSD site

2007-08-24 Thread Steve Bertrand
 I haven't noticed if the mail servers are doing greylisting, but it
 wouldn't surprise me if they were.
 
 They do.

That's quite the response.

Care to elaborate for purposes of archive accuracy?

Steve
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Re: time issue

2007-08-24 Thread Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET
 Hello,
 
 I recently noticed that my clock was running a few minutes slow, even thoug=
 h I
 have ntpd running on the box. Now I'm seeing this on occasion.=20
 
 Aug 24 20:17:10 kanga dovecot: Time just moved backwards by 105 seconds. Th=
 is
 might c
 ause a lot of problems, so I'll just kill myself now.
 http://wiki.dovecot.org/TimeMov
 edBackwards
 
 
 Does this suggest a hardware clock issue?
 
Hi,

Do you do an ntpdate at boot, or just run ntpd? If just ntpd,
you should consider ntpdate, that way the major adjustment is done before
most anything else is started up and your dovecot probably will stop 
committing  hara-kiri.

Tuc
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Re: time issue

2007-08-24 Thread Modulok
 Hello,

 I recently noticed that my clock was running a few minutes slow, even though
 I
 have ntpd running on the box. Now I'm seeing this on occasion.

 Aug 24 20:17:10 kanga dovecot: Time just moved backwards by 105 seconds.
 This
 might c
 ause a lot of problems, so I'll just kill myself now.
 http://wiki.dovecot.org/TimeMov
 edBackwards


 Does this suggest a hardware clock issue?

Is this a system that is left running 24/7 connected to the Internet,
or a system which is frequently turned off? If the latter, you might
want to do as has been suggested by re-syncing the clock at boot time,
and check the CMOS battery on the mainboard. The current recommended
method of clock sync at boot time is is via ntpd(8) instead of
ntpdate(8), (as of FreeBSD 6.1 and possibly earlier). To quote the
ntpdate(8) manual page:

Note: The functionality of this program is now available in the ntpd(8)
program.  See the -q command line option in the ntpd(8) page.  After a
suitable period of mourning, the ntpdate utility is to be retired from
this distribution.

To accomplish this simply add the following like to /etc/rc.conf

ntpd_sync_on_start=YES # Synchronize clock at startup.

-Modulok-
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Re: Postfix/SpamAssassin Guru?

2007-08-24 Thread Noel Jones
On 8/24/07, Peter Boosten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Eric Crist wrote:
  On Aug 24, 2007, at 9:05 AMAug 24, 2007, Gerard wrote:
 
  On August 24, 2007 at 09:32AM Eric Crist wrote:
 
 
 
  I've got Postfix with Dovecot and virtual users setup.  What I'm looking
  for is some filtering based on the flags SpamAssassin sets, so that I
  can route any messages tagged as Spam to a Spam directory with a users
  maildir.

 Assuming you got SA running:
 In my main.cf:
 header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/header_checks


 This is in my header_checks:

 /^X-Spam-Flag: YES/ REDIRECT [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Peter

Note that REDIRECT acts on all recipients of a message, and cannot be
customized per-user.  In the above example, *all* tagged spam would be
delivered to a single mailbox.  OK if that's what you want.

an easier way is to run spamassassin under the control of amavisd-new
and let amavisd-new add address extensions such as user+spam and to
let dovecot file the mail in a spam folder.

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problems with PCI RAID card showing up

2007-08-24 Thread Michael Hawkins
For some reason, I am unable to find the drives (RAIDED with JBOD) connected
to this card.  The chipset for the card is VIA 6421 for SATA and 8235 for
IDE (It supports both), which, according to 'man ata' is supported.  Prior
to the FreeBSD boot Menu, I see text scroll across the screen that lists the
drives connected to the machine, and includes this RAID group as a listed
drive.  Not to mention that knoppix and acronis both see the drive as
listed.  Where are these drives located, and how do I get FreeBSD to see
them so I can mount them?
Here is a clipping from dmesg, where the card is referenced as being
present:
atapci0: VIA 6421 SATA150 controller port
0x9000-0x900f,0x9400-0x940f,0x9800-0x980f,0x9c00-0x9c0f,0xa000-0xa01f,0xa400-0xa4ff
irq 16 at device 8.0 on pci0
atapci1: VIA 8235 UDMA133 controller port
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xb800-0xb80f at device 17.1 on pci0


Here is output from pciconf -lv

# pciconf -lv
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0:  class=0x06 card=0x31891106 chip=0x31891106 rev=0x00
hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'VIA Technologies Inc'
device   = 'VT8377 Apollo KT400/A/600 CPU to PCI Bridge'
class= bridge
subclass = HOST-PCI
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:0: class=0x060400 card=0x0080 chip=0xb1681106 rev=0x00
hdr=0x01
vendor   = 'VIA Technologies Inc'
device   = 'ProSavageDDR P4X333 CPU to AGP 2.0/3.0 Bridge'
class= bridge
subclass = PCI-PCI
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:8:0:   class=0x010400 card=0x32491106 chip=0x32491106
rev=0x50 hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'VIA Technologies Inc'
device   = 'VT6421 IDE RAID Controller'
class= mass storage
subclass = RAID
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:9:0: class=0x048000 card=0x1131 chip=0x71301131 rev=0x01
hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'Philips Semiconductors'
device   = 'SAA7130HL Multi Media Capture Device'
class= multimedia
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:10:0:  class=0x02 card=0x01051106 chip=0x31061106 rev=0x86
hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'VIA Technologies Inc'
device   = 'VT6105M/LOM Rhine III PCI Fast Ethernet Controller'
class= network
subclass = ethernet
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:16:0:class=0x0c0300 card=0x30381106 chip=0x30381106
rev=0x80 hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'VIA Technologies Inc'
device   = 'VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)'
class= serial bus
subclass = USB
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:16:1:class=0x0c0300 card=0x30381106 chip=0x30381106
rev=0x80 hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'VIA Technologies Inc'
device   = 'VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)'
class= serial bus
subclass = USB
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:16:2:class=0x0c0300 card=0x30381106 chip=0x30381106
rev=0x80 hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'VIA Technologies Inc'
device   = 'VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)'
class= serial bus
subclass = USB
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:16:3:class=0x0c0320 card=0x31041106 chip=0x31041106
rev=0x82 hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'VIA Technologies Inc'
device   = 'VT6202 USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller'
class= serial bus
subclass = USB
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:17:0:class=0x060100 card=0x31771106 chip=0x31771106
rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'VIA Technologies Inc'
device   = 'VT8235 PCI to ISA Bridge'
class= bridge
subclass = PCI-ISA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:17:1:  class=0x01018a card=0x05711106 chip=0x05711106
rev=0x06 hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'VIA Technologies Inc'
device   = 'VT82 EIDE Controller (All VIA Chipsets)'
class= mass storage
subclass = ATA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:17:5:class=0x040100 card=0xf6141565 chip=0x30591106
rev=0x50 hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'VIA Technologies Inc'
device   = 'VT8233/33A/8235/8237 AC97 Enhanced Audio Controller'
class= multimedia
subclass = audio
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0: class=0x03 card=0x81ea1043 chip=0x004110de rev=0xa1
hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'NVIDIA Corporation'
device   = 'GeForce 6800 [NV40.1]'
class= display
subclass = VGA



Finally, here is a listing of devices in /dev:
# ls /dev
acd0ad1 consolectl  fd  lpt0
   nfslock ttyd0   ttyv3   ttyvd   zero
acpiad1s1   cttyfidolpt0.ctl
   nullttyd0.init  ttyv4   ttyve
ad0 ad3 cuad0   geom.ctlmdctl
pci ttyd0.lock  ttyv5   ttyvf
ad0s1   ad3s1   cuad0.init  io  mem
ppi0ttyd1   ttyv6   urandom
ad0s1a  agpgart cuad0.lock  kbd0net
ptyp0   ttyd1.init  ttyv7   usb
ad0s1b  apm cuad1   kbd1net1
   random  ttyd1.lock  ttyv8   usb0
ad0s1c  ata cuad1.init  kbdmux0 net2
   stderr  ttyp0   ttyv9   usb1
ad0s1d  atkbd0  cuad1.lock  klog 

Re: FreeBSD and ImageMagick crashes OS?

2007-08-24 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 08:26:50PM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote:
 On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 11:29:59 +0200
 Roger Olofsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Turns out ImageMagick was called through php to resize the .JPG and most 
  likely, the server runs out of memory/disk space. /var/tmp fills up and 
  console spews as follows:
  
  Aug 22 19:29:49 rutilus kernel: vnode_pager_putpages: I/O error 28
  Aug 22 19:29:49 rutilus kernel: vnode_pager_putpages: residual I/O 32768 
  at 62620
  Aug 22 19:29:49 rutilus kernel: pid 29 (syncer), uid 0 inumber 49382 on 
  /var: filesystem full
 
 :) having been bitten by that in several unix-like OS (pick any Linux distro, 
 and freebsd too), i just remove /var/tmp and make a smylink to /tmp , which 
 is big enough for my foreseeable needs. I like to keep my /var clean of tmp 
 rubbish.
 
 and yes,  configuring PHP and it's libraries helps too :)

That's not an answer obviously.  Error 28 is

#define ENOSPC  28  /* No space left on device */

This seems like a bug to me: when a filesystem fills you shouldn't be
getting this behaviour.  Can you please follow the directions in the
developers handbook chapter on kernel debugging, and when you trigger
a hang, break to DDB from the console and force a dump, then file a PR
and make the core file available to the developers.  Unfortunately
unless a developer can replicate the behaviour, providing access to a
core is the only real debugging option.

Thanks,
Kris


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