[EMAIL PROTECTED] maildrop and postfix - temporary authentication failure

2008-10-09 Thread Da Rock
I'm really about to throw this damn server through a closed window (or
better yet a brick wall). I've searched high and low on google for a
straight answer, and any references in mailing lists give an answer of
read the INSTALL file (as if thats supposed to solve everything).

I have virtual users for email in postfix, and I want to use maildrop to
deliver to the virtual mailboxes. Problem is, when it does use maildrop
it shows an error in the logs as the subject line says.

I've tried everything, checked everything. That supposed magic solution
in the INSTALL file says only ONE thing needs to be set to get it to
work. Maildrop is owned by root and group is mail. The socket is rwx
globally (all this is set by the port install). The executing user for
pipe in postfix is vmail.

I've installed the port with authlib and gdbm (even manually adjusted
the makefile to ensure --enable-userdb). Nada.

The generally consensus is that it should work out of the box- so what
the hell am I doing wrong? Where should I be looking? Specifically: what
is not authenticating? I can manually test maildrop ok. So wtf?

You'll have to excuse my language here- I'm not sure how much hair I
have left after working on this for several days...

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Re: Weird FS behavior tru FTP on CD9660

2008-10-09 Thread Ivan Voras
Sdävtaker wrote:
 Hey,
 I found a weird situation today,
 I mounted a DVD with the mount_cd9660 and accessed it through
 filezilla. I got 2 times every file in the list, go back to the
 original Pc and checked with ls and they appear only once. :-/
 Im using last version Filezilla in MSW, and ftpd in FBSD7.0r.
 I think it can be reading both TOCs in the DVD, but it is weird since
 it doesnt happen when doing ls.
 Can someone try reproduce it in another setup?

You need to test one thing first: use FreeBSD's command-line FTP client
(called ftp) and try to access the same files.



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[SOLVED] Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] maildrop and postfix - temporary authentication failure

2008-10-09 Thread Da Rock

On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 16:21 +1000, Da Rock wrote:
 I'm really about to throw this damn server through a closed window (or
 better yet a brick wall). I've searched high and low on google for a
 straight answer, and any references in mailing lists give an answer of
 read the INSTALL file (as if thats supposed to solve everything).
 
 I have virtual users for email in postfix, and I want to use maildrop to
 deliver to the virtual mailboxes. Problem is, when it does use maildrop
 it shows an error in the logs as the subject line says.
 
 I've tried everything, checked everything. That supposed magic solution
 in the INSTALL file says only ONE thing needs to be set to get it to
 work. Maildrop is owned by root and group is mail. The socket is rwx
 globally (all this is set by the port install). The executing user for
 pipe in postfix is vmail.
 
 I've installed the port with authlib and gdbm (even manually adjusted
 the makefile to ensure --enable-userdb). Nada.
 
 The generally consensus is that it should work out of the box- so what
 the hell am I doing wrong? Where should I be looking? Specifically: what
 is not authenticating? I can manually test maildrop ok. So wtf?
 
 You'll have to excuse my language here- I'm not sure how much hair I
 have left after working on this for several days...

Ok, I know I'm answering my own question here- but this should
definitely be fixed.

In the INSTALL file, someone should change the statement where it says
When using the standalone maildrop build with courier-authlib, one
 of the following configurations must be used:\

to: When using the standalone maildrop build with courier-authlib, ALL
 of the following configurations must be used:

Just after I sent the email I thought I'd check the only thing I hadn't
changed, the setuid bit. There are several reasons why I hadn't had the
guts to do this before- but in my mood I was feeling reckless.

1. The statement in the INSTALL file said only one configuration needed
to be changed.
2. I installed from ports- I would have thought (like most would, and
history has served to provide empirical data) that the install process
would have set this.
3. None of the information I read when searching emphasised this when
all other options are already set- and certainly none based on freebsd.

Anyone else with this issue popping up THIS is the answer- set ALL the
configuration options in the INSTALL file.

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] maildrop and postfix - temporary authentication failure

2008-10-09 Thread herbs
Is there anything in the instructions about the gid or uid? Maybe there
is something wrong. Just an idea..

herbs


On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 04:21:20PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
 I'm really about to throw this damn server through a closed window (or
 better yet a brick wall). I've searched high and low on google for a
 straight answer, and any references in mailing lists give an answer of
 read the INSTALL file (as if thats supposed to solve everything).
 
 I have virtual users for email in postfix, and I want to use maildrop to
 deliver to the virtual mailboxes. Problem is, when it does use maildrop
 it shows an error in the logs as the subject line says.
 
 I've tried everything, checked everything. That supposed magic solution
 in the INSTALL file says only ONE thing needs to be set to get it to
 work. Maildrop is owned by root and group is mail. The socket is rwx
 globally (all this is set by the port install). The executing user for
 pipe in postfix is vmail.
 
 I've installed the port with authlib and gdbm (even manually adjusted
 the makefile to ensure --enable-userdb). Nada.
 
 The generally consensus is that it should work out of the box- so what
 the hell am I doing wrong? Where should I be looking? Specifically: what
 is not authenticating? I can manually test maildrop ok. So wtf?
 
 You'll have to excuse my language here- I'm not sure how much hair I
 have left after working on this for several days...
 
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Re: GEOM_JOURNAL: Timeout. Journal gjournal XXXX cannot be completed.

2008-10-09 Thread Laszlo Nagy




GEOM_JOURNAL: Timeout. Journal gjournal 2578807269 cannot be completed.

Screenshots will not come through on the list, could you upload them 
somewhere and send a link?

Is the partition you are trying to journal mounted?


Now I figured out that the size of the journal partition was too small. 
I changed it to 40GB and now it is fine.


Thanks,

 Laszlo

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Re: Can't get soundcard to work

2008-10-09 Thread Aniruddha
On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 23:31 +0100, Frank Shute wrote:
  ls /dev/d
  da0  da2  dconsdevstat  dsp0.0   dsp1.0   
  da1  da3  devctl   dgdb dsp0.1   dumpdev 
 
 On my machine:
 
 $ ls /dev | grep dsp
 dsp0.0
 dsp0.1
 
 i.e no dsp1.0
 
 Could be that the 2 cards are confusing it, as you suggested previously
 (they both use the same driver). Can you disable one in the BIOS? 

I am afraid not :( my ATI radeon 3850 comes with HDMI support which I
can't disable.

 What does:
 
 $ cat /dev/sndstat
 
 give you?

sndstat:
 FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386)
 Installed devices:
 pcm0: ATI (Unknown) High Definition Audio Controller at memory
0xff9ec000 irq 17 kld snd_hda [20080420_0052] [MPSAFE] (mixer only)
 pcm1: Intel 82801G High Definition Audio Controller at memory
0xffafc000 irq 19 kld snd_hda [20080420_0052] [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v
channels duplex)

 I'm not surprised it freaks out - it's probably struggling to figure
 out which card to use.
 
 I feel pretty sure you'll have better luck disabling one. I have had 2
 cards in the same machine before but they used different drivers.

Can this problem be solved with buying an new soundcard? Or wil I run
into the same mess? 

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Regards,

Aniruddha




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Re: Can't get soundcard to work

2008-10-09 Thread Aniruddha
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 01:16 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote:
 Aniruddha skrev:
  I've read the Setting Up the Sound Card part in the FreeBSD handbook
  unfortunately I can't get my Intel HDA card to work. Any ideas would be
  appreciated! Here's some relevant output:
  
 
 If you load the driver manually, can you play a tune then?
 For me snd_hda_load=YES does not load the driver. I have to do it with
 kldload snd_hda.
 

I'll try this and post the results. Afaik I got a message driver
already loaded


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Re: What is a recommended soundcard for FreeBSD?

2008-10-09 Thread Aniruddha
On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 23:46 +0200, Patrick Lamaizière wrote:
 Le Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:42:43 +0200,
 Aniruddha [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
 
  Because of the problems with my onboard Intel HDA audio chip I plan to
  buy a soundcard that is supported by FreeBSD.
 
 There is a new hda driver in current, may be you can try it on
 RELENG_7?
 
 See 
 http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-New-snd_hda-driver-came-in.-p19499206.html
 
 Good luck!
 
 Regards.
 

Thanks I'll check it out.v In the meantime I'm real curious about
FreeBSD user experience with X-fi :)


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Re: Weird FS behavior tru FTP on CD9660

2008-10-09 Thread Michael Powell
Sdävtaker wrote:

 Hey,
 I found a weird situation today,
 I mounted a DVD with the mount_cd9660 and accessed it through
 filezilla. I got 2 times every file in the list, go back to the
 original Pc and checked with ls and they appear only once. :-/
 Im using last version Filezilla in MSW, and ftpd in FBSD7.0r.
 I think it can be reading both TOCs in the DVD, but it is weird since
 it doesnt happen when doing ls.
 Can someone try reproduce it in another setup?
 Sdav

I believe this is fixed in RELENG_7.

-Mike



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Re: [SOLVED] Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] maildrop and postfix - temporary authentication failure

2008-10-09 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 04:52:29PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
 
 On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 16:21 +1000, Da Rock wrote:
  I'm really about to throw this damn server through a closed window (or
  better yet a brick wall). I've searched high and low on google for a
  straight answer, and any references in mailing lists give an answer of
  read the INSTALL file (as if thats supposed to solve everything).
  
  I have virtual users for email in postfix, and I want to use maildrop to
  deliver to the virtual mailboxes. Problem is, when it does use maildrop
  it shows an error in the logs as the subject line says.
  
  I've tried everything, checked everything. That supposed magic solution
  in the INSTALL file says only ONE thing needs to be set to get it to
  work. Maildrop is owned by root and group is mail. The socket is rwx
  globally (all this is set by the port install). The executing user for
  pipe in postfix is vmail.
  
  I've installed the port with authlib and gdbm (even manually adjusted
  the makefile to ensure --enable-userdb). Nada.
  
  The generally consensus is that it should work out of the box- so what
  the hell am I doing wrong? Where should I be looking? Specifically: what
  is not authenticating? I can manually test maildrop ok. So wtf?
  
  You'll have to excuse my language here- I'm not sure how much hair I
  have left after working on this for several days...
 
 Ok, I know I'm answering my own question here- but this should
 definitely be fixed.
 
 In the INSTALL file, someone should change the statement where it says
 When using the standalone maildrop build with courier-authlib, one
  of the following configurations must be used:\
 
 to: When using the standalone maildrop build with courier-authlib, ALL
  of the following configurations must be used:
 
 Just after I sent the email I thought I'd check the only thing I hadn't
 changed, the setuid bit. There are several reasons why I hadn't had the
 guts to do this before- but in my mood I was feeling reckless.
 
 1. The statement in the INSTALL file said only one configuration needed
 to be changed.
 2. I installed from ports- I would have thought (like most would, and
 history has served to provide empirical data) that the install process
 would have set this.
 3. None of the information I read when searching emphasised this when
 all other options are already set- and certainly none based on freebsd.
 
 Anyone else with this issue popping up THIS is the answer- set ALL the
 configuration options in the INSTALL file.

This should go to freebsd-ports, not freebsd-questions.  I would also
recommend filing a PR about this, since otherwise it's unlikely to get
addressed/fixed.

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linux emulation

2008-10-09 Thread Desmond Chapman

I don't know if anyone else is trying; but, I am attempting a Linux 
installation of virtualbox on FreeBSD amd64. 

Here is the output first:
sh Desktop/VirtualBox-1.6.0-Linux_amd64.run
Verifying archive integrity... All good.
Uncompressing VirtualBox for Linux installation
VirtualBox Version 1.6.0 (Wed Apr 30 22:37:39 CEST 2008) installation
Please install GNU make.
Please install the build and header files for your current Linux kernel.
The current kernel version is 7.0-RELEASE
Problems were found which would prevent VirtualBox from installing.
Please correct these problems and try again.

Okay. Do I need to brandelf this binary?

Where are the headers for fc4 or kernel 2.4.x?

kBuild is still broken. I've asked the maintainer to re-implement it along with 
a warning. It's needed to build virtualbox.


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Re: mysql binlogs and their expiry times

2008-10-09 Thread Matthew Seaman

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| It works so no problem but I do not really like the idea of providing
| passwords in crontab. I wish the option in my.cnf file worked as
| advertised.

Hmmm It's always worked for me to create a file /root/.my.cnf 
containing:


[client]
user = root
password = imnottellingyou

Make sure that's mode 400.  You should then be able to type 'mysql' as the unix
root user and be auto-logged into a root level mysql session without having to
type in the password explicitly.  Other client applications (mysqldump, 
mysqladmin,
mysqlcheck etc.) will work similarly.  Note that you want to run
'mysql_secure_installation' or otherwise get rid of remote root level access to
MySQL to ensure security.

Cheers,

Matthew

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HELP with Compiling qt4-designer

2008-10-09 Thread shinjii
Im running AMD64 FreeBSD7.1-PreRelease on KDE4.1.2, so far everything in
upgrading was successful apart from the below issue .. any ideas/thoughts
?
+++


../../../shared/qtgradienteditor/qtgradientstopsmodel.cpp:482: error:
expected constructor, destructor, or type conversion at end of input ***
Error code 1
2 errors
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
pkg_create: pkg_perform: unable to open contents file
'/usr/ports/devel/qt4-designer/work/.PLIST.mktmp' for input
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
3 errors




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Re: mysql binlogs and their expiry times

2008-10-09 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hello,

 Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:

 | It works so no problem but I do not really like the idea of providing
 | passwords in crontab. I wish the option in my.cnf file worked as
 | advertised.

 Hmmm It's always worked for me to create a file /root/.my.cnf
 containing:

 [client]
 user = root
 password = imnottellingyou

Thank you Matthew. You made me learn something new and very useful! I
appreciate it very much!

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Re: php5 segfault

2008-10-09 Thread Laszlo Nagy



Also, you cannot use a threaded Apache (e.g. threaded MPMs) with PHP
since not all extensions support threading.  Your Apache needs to be
built without threads and use a non-thread model (e.g. prefork).  I've
also had success with Apache-ITK-mpm.


This is very true for mod_php, but less so if PHP is run as FastCGI. 
I am

currently running a box at work with the event mpm and mod_fcgid for
testing and it seems to be doing well. YMMV
All right. The problem is that we are getting segfaults with the CLI 
version too. We are running some background PHP programs and they also 
throw segfault.


Here is the interesting part. I wrote a test script that tries to 
connect to the postgresql server.


- if the hostname is wrong for the connection, there is no segfault
- if the hostname is right but the password is wrong (e.g. it cannot 
connect to the server) then there IS segfault.


There are no options to configure in php5-pgsql.

I tried to change the order or module in extensions.ini, no success so far.

Best,

  Laszlo

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Re: php5 segfault

2008-10-09 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 10:11:29AM +0200, Laszlo Nagy wrote:

 Also, you cannot use a threaded Apache (e.g. threaded MPMs) with PHP
 since not all extensions support threading.  Your Apache needs to be
 built without threads and use a non-thread model (e.g. prefork).  I've
 also had success with Apache-ITK-mpm.

 This is very true for mod_php, but less so if PHP is run as FastCGI.  
 I am
 currently running a box at work with the event mpm and mod_fcgid for
 testing and it seems to be doing well. YMMV
 All right. The problem is that we are getting segfaults with the CLI  
 version too. We are running some background PHP programs and they also  
 throw segfault.

extensions.ini is used by the CLI version as well.  I'm not sure why you
think this wouldn't be the case.

 Here is the interesting part. I wrote a test script that tries to  
 connect to the postgresql server.

 - if the hostname is wrong for the connection, there is no segfault
 - if the hostname is right but the password is wrong (e.g. it cannot  
 connect to the server) then there IS segfault.

 There are no options to configure in php5-pgsql.

 I tried to change the order or module in extensions.ini, no success so far.

Then my recommendation is to build PHP with DEBUG enabled (see make
config), reproduce the situation, and provide a backtrace here.

I would also consider filing a bug with the PHP folks.  They may know
something we don't.

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Re: Can't get soundcard to work

2008-10-09 Thread Frank Shute
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 09:12:28AM +0200, Aniruddha wrote:

 On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 23:31 +0100, Frank Shute wrote:
   ls /dev/d
   da0  da2  dconsdevstat  dsp0.0   dsp1.0   
   da1  da3  devctl   dgdb dsp0.1   dumpdev 
  
  On my machine:
  
  $ ls /dev | grep dsp
  dsp0.0
  dsp0.1
  
  i.e no dsp1.0
  
  Could be that the 2 cards are confusing it, as you suggested previously
  (they both use the same driver). Can you disable one in the BIOS? 
 
 I am afraid not :( my ATI radeon 3850 comes with HDMI support which I
 can't disable.

:( 

What about the onboard Intel chip? Can you disable that?

 
  What does:
  
  $ cat /dev/sndstat
  
  give you?
 
 sndstat:
  FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386)
  Installed devices:
  pcm0: ATI (Unknown) High Definition Audio Controller at memory
 0xff9ec000 irq 17 kld snd_hda [20080420_0052] [MPSAFE] (mixer only)
  pcm1: Intel 82801G High Definition Audio Controller at memory
 0xffafc000 irq 19 kld snd_hda [20080420_0052] [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v
 channels duplex)

The driver is binding to both.

 
  I'm not surprised it freaks out - it's probably struggling to figure
  out which card to use.
  
  I feel pretty sure you'll have better luck disabling one. I have had 2
  cards in the same machine before but they used different drivers.
 
 Can this problem be solved with buying an new soundcard? Or wil I run
 into the same mess? 

I'm no expert on the sound subsystem, so I can't tell you.

You can probably get what you've got to work but I don't know the
appropriate magic.

I think you're probably best off posting to:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Explain that you've got 2 sound chips with the snd_hda driver binding
to both  ask whether it's possible to get sound out of that
configuration without disabling one.

 
 -- 
 Regards,
 
 Aniruddha
 

Sorry, I couldn't be more help.

BTW, hope you don't mind but I've cc'd this to multimedia@

For those on that list, the thread starts here:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-October/183904.html


Regards,

-- 

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Re: php5 segfault

2008-10-09 Thread Laszlo Nagy



There are no options to configure in php5-pgsql.

I tried to change the order or module in extensions.ini, no success so far.



Then my recommendation is to build PHP with DEBUG enabled (see make
config), reproduce the situation, and provide a backtrace here.
  
Problem solved. I put pgsql.so on top of all other modules and now there 
is no segfault. Thank you!



Although I do not understand why it has not been fixed. The same problem 
existed two years ago, right?



  Laszlo

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Re: php5 segfault

2008-10-09 Thread Laszlo Nagy



I thought you said you changed the order and it didn't work?  *confused*
  
I said no success so far. There are more than 20 modules and there is no 
description about what the good order should be. I had to keep trying...

If so: it should be obvious why it hasn't been fixed.  It doesn't appear
to affect everyone -- for example, we have never seen this problem in
the 4-5 years we've been using PHP on FreeBSD -- and the solution
doesn't really make much sense anyway.  It smells of a missing symbol
problem (e.g. libxx.so wants a symbol named hello_bob, but the symbol
is available in libyy.so, which has to be loaded first; however, ld.so
and dlopen(3) have explicit handling for this scenario (see RTLD_NOW vs.
RTLD_LAZY), so I'm at a loss).
  
Maybe you are right. But I would think that a missing symbol problem 
should throw an error message telling missing symbol instead of making 
a segfault.

That said, if you feel this is a humongous issue, I highly recommend you
mail the PHP port maintainer and express your concerns, or open a PR
  
We had the same problem on our previous server. I'm going to install 
another box today and test it. If the problem comes out again, I'm going 
to write a PR.


Thank you!

  Laszlo



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performance problem in regex

2008-10-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all,
I've got some performance hit using regex in libc on freebsd 6.3. I've 
done some test whit the patterns that l7-filter [http://l7-filter.sf.net] use 
to recognize level 7 internet protocol. For example, with the skypeout pattern, 
regexec() takes more tha 0.1 sec to do its work. Is this a know problem?
Thanks 
in advance,
Fulvio Esposito 
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Re: Update System from 6.1 to last 6 Release with NOT generic Kernel...

2008-10-09 Thread RW
On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 19:08:42 -0300
Agus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi guys...
 
 Just wanted to check a few things before crapping my system..hehehe
 
 I am planning on updating the system from 6.1 to the last 6.3-RELEASE
 p5 i think it isaccording to the freebsd-update.sh...
 
 I am plannin on doing it with this tool...but my main concern is the
 modified kernel and the ports...

You can't use freebsd-update on a modified kernel. 

Ports can be left unchanged unless you change the  major version and go
to 7. 
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Re: Multiple NICs routing question

2008-10-09 Thread Derek Ragona

At 06:26 AM 10/9/2008, Konrad Heuer wrote:


Hello,

I've a server box with four NICs addressing different subnets:

NIC1:   one class c subnet of same class b network
NIC2:   another class c subnet of same class b network
NIC3:   local unrouted network
NIC4:   local unrouted network

In the current configuration I use a default gateway (and no routing 
daemon) in the subnet addressed by NIC1. Now of course, if a client in an 
arbitrary different class c subnet contacts the server using the ip 
address of NIC2, it gets a reply from NIC1.


How can I cange this? I'd like the server to answer via the interface the 
client uses when connecting.


Maybe that's a silly question, but thanks for any reply!

Best regards

Konrad Heuer
GWDG, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany, [EMAIL PROTECTED]


You can have only one default gateway, that should be to where all other 
traffic should go.  Add static routes to your specific subnets, public or 
private for the routing of that traffic.


-Derek

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Re: php5 segfault

2008-10-09 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 11:53:11AM +0200, Laszlo Nagy wrote:

 There are no options to configure in php5-pgsql.

 I tried to change the order or module in extensions.ini, no success so far.
 

 Then my recommendation is to build PHP with DEBUG enabled (see make
 config), reproduce the situation, and provide a backtrace here.
   
 Problem solved. I put pgsql.so on top of all other modules and now there  
 is no segfault. Thank you!

I thought you said you changed the order and it didn't work?  *confused*

 Although I do not understand why it has not been fixed. The same
 problem  existed two years ago, right?

What problem are you referring to?  The extension ordering issue?

If so: it should be obvious why it hasn't been fixed.  It doesn't appear
to affect everyone -- for example, we have never seen this problem in
the 4-5 years we've been using PHP on FreeBSD -- and the solution
doesn't really make much sense anyway.  It smells of a missing symbol
problem (e.g. libxx.so wants a symbol named hello_bob, but the symbol
is available in libyy.so, which has to be loaded first; however, ld.so
and dlopen(3) have explicit handling for this scenario (see RTLD_NOW vs.
RTLD_LAZY), so I'm at a loss).

That said, if you feel this is a humongous issue, I highly recommend you
mail the PHP port maintainer and express your concerns, or open a PR.

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Re: Can an Account be Locked out for ssh but allow su?

2008-10-09 Thread Jeremy Hooks
Personally I prefer AllowUsers, as that denies all users except those
specifically allowed.  Deny/AllowGroups are useful too.

2008/10/8 Martin McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Henrik Hudson writes:
  Check the sshd_config man page for AllowUsers and DenyUsers directives.

 Many thanks. DenyUsers did the trick.
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Re: KDE 4 Cannot run as regular user

2008-10-09 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Tom Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I just installed KDE4 via ports and am getting errors upon attempting
 to start as a regular user. When I run startkde as root it works
 fine but I don't want to use root on this machine.

 Error Generated when started as a regular user
 $ startx
 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libXau.so.6 not found, required by 
 xauth
 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libXau.so.6 not found, required by 
 xauth
 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libXau.so.6 not found, required by 
 xauth
 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libXau.so.6 not found, required by 
 xauth
 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libXau.so.6 not found, required by 
 xauth
 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libX11.so.6 not found, required by 
 xinit
 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libXau.so.6 not found, required by 
 xauth

 The files are there
 $ ls -l /usr/local/lib/libXau.so /usr/local/lib/libX11.so
 lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  11 Oct  6 03:09 /usr/local/lib/libX11.so -
 libX11.so.6
 lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  11 Oct  6 03:06 /usr/local/lib/libXau.so -
 libXau.so.6
 $ ls -l /usr/local/lib/libXau.so.6 /usr/local/lib/libX11.so.6
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  1080722 Oct  6 03:09 /usr/local/lib/libX11.so.6
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel10604 Oct  6 03:06 /usr/local/lib/libXau.so.6

 $ cat .xinitrc
 exec /usr/local/kde4/bin/startkde

 $ uname -a
 FreeBSD xxx.xxx.net 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #2: Mon Oct
 6 02:45:38 MDT 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/xxx
 i386

 I'm sure this is a very little issue but I appreciate your patience
 and help in resolving this issue.

I'll guess the problem isn't related to KDE, but to X in general.  
Can you start twm as your local user?  With a minimal .xinitrc file?

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Re: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-09 Thread Chad Marshall


 Sorry to bother you...You know, you could just leave well enough  
alone if you don't care. There goes any future donations from me and  
my organization as this is more than the first untactful email I  
recieved from this, I'll donate and use other platforms. Please don't  
send any other emails






On Oct 8, 2008, at 6:51 PM, matt donovan wrote:

why is this news or even important? heck most servers are up longer  
then this.


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Re: performance problem in regex

2008-10-09 Thread Michel Talon
fulvio_esposito wrote:

 I've got some performance hit using regex in libc on freebsd 6.3

Knowing that this regex implementation uses an  NFA algorithm, while
a DFA algorithm should be preferred, this is no big surprise. You can
read the following references on the subject:
http://swtch.com/~rsc/regexp/regexp1.html
http://www.dmst.aueb.gr/dds/pubs/jrnl/2007-SPANDE-FIRE/html/KS07.html

In particular the second is written by a FreeBSD developer and states:
The Spencer engine proved to have poor performance and was excluded
from the graphs., where the Spencer engine is precisely the one in 
FreeBSD.


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Re: linux emulation

2008-10-09 Thread Adrian Gschwend
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 I don't know if anyone else is trying; but, I am attempting a Linux
 installation of virtualbox on FreeBSD amd64.

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.virtualbox.devel/853
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.virtualbox.devel/874

cu

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RE: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-09 Thread Bob McConnell
On Behalf Of matt donovan

 why is this news or even important? heck most servers
 are up longer then this.

It's neither. But the discussion proved useful as it served to remind me
that there are security updates that need to be reviewed periodically,
even for machines that are not directly connected to the outside world.
I also recorded a couple of URLs that I should review, and caught the
reminder that 2038 is coming quicker than I had hoped. That was very
timely, by the way. Later that same day it helped debug a problem. Yeah,
we already have one web developer that has run up against that limit. He
decided that forever is 30 years and wondered why QA got an error when
they tried to set a schedule end date with it. No, we don't use any 64
bit OS, yet.

Bob McConnell
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Re: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-09 Thread David Kelly
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 07:07:31AM -0700, Chad Marshall wrote:
 
  Sorry to bother you...You know, you could just leave well enough  
 alone if you don't care. There goes any future donations from me and  
 my organization as this is more than the first untactful email I  
 recieved from this, I'll donate and use other platforms. Please don't  
 send any other emails

If your skin is that thin, then good riddance. But just what sort of
control over this email list do you expect of the organization? I
seriously doubt you contribute enough to pay for a full time list
moderator.

FreeBSD-Questions is not the right place to say, 2 years!,
FreeBSD-Chat is the right place, and that's exactly what I did several
days before this one appeared on Questions.

Meanwhile, you should know where the off switch is to unsubscribe as
somehow you managed to subscribe.

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Re: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-09 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 07:07:31AM -0700, Chad Marshall wrote:

 
  Sorry to bother you...You know, you could just leave well enough  
 alone if you don't care. There goes any future donations from me and  
 my organization as this is more than the first untactful email I  
 recieved from this, I'll donate and use other platforms. Please don't  
 send any other emails
 

Kind of touchy, wouldn't you think?
People are giving you some perspective.
Well, anyway, you have the choice of using a superior system
or let scratchy responses lead you to something less suitable.

jerry

 
 On Oct 8, 2008, at 6:51 PM, matt donovan wrote:
 
 why is this news or even important? heck most servers are up longer  
 then this.

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Multiple NICs routing question

2008-10-09 Thread Konrad Heuer


Hello,

I've a server box with four NICs addressing different subnets:

NIC1:   one class c subnet of same class b network
NIC2:   another class c subnet of same class b network
NIC3:   local unrouted network
NIC4:   local unrouted network

In the current configuration I use a default gateway (and no routing 
daemon) in the subnet addressed by NIC1. Now of course, if a client in an 
arbitrary different class c subnet contacts the server using the ip 
address of NIC2, it gets a reply from NIC1.


How can I cange this? I'd like the server to answer via the interface the 
client uses when connecting.


Maybe that's a silly question, but thanks for any reply!

Best regards

Konrad Heuer
GWDG, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-09 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Eitan Adler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 andrew clarke wrote:

 Is FreeBSD 7.1 2038-proof?  ;-)


 As far as I know the amd64 version is (anyone care to verify/correct?)

All 64-bit platforms have 64-bit time_t, so that covers most of the
possible problems.  Even on 32-bit platforms, the major filesystems
use 64-bit times, so the data is good to go on 64-bit systems.

And in theory it should be possible to change time_t to unsigned, and
get another two-thirds of a century out of it...

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] maildrop and postfix - temporary authentication failure

2008-10-09 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Thursday, October 09, 2008 01:21:20 -0500 Da Rock 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




I'm really about to throw this damn server through a closed window (or
better yet a brick wall). I've searched high and low on google for a
straight answer, and any references in mailing lists give an answer of
read the INSTALL file (as if thats supposed to solve everything).

I have virtual users for email in postfix, and I want to use maildrop to
deliver to the virtual mailboxes. Problem is, when it does use maildrop
it shows an error in the logs as the subject line says.

I've tried everything, checked everything. That supposed magic solution
in the INSTALL file says only ONE thing needs to be set to get it to
work. Maildrop is owned by root and group is mail. The socket is rwx
globally (all this is set by the port install). The executing user for
pipe in postfix is vmail.

I've installed the port with authlib and gdbm (even manually adjusted
the makefile to ensure --enable-userdb). Nada.

The generally consensus is that it should work out of the box- so what
the hell am I doing wrong? Where should I be looking? Specifically: what
is not authenticating? I can manually test maildrop ok. So wtf?

You'll have to excuse my language here- I'm not sure how much hair I
have left after working on this for several days...



What you should be doing is posting this to the postfix users list where people 
like Wietse Venema, the developer of Postfix, can answer your questions and 
help you solve your problem.  Seriously.  Sebatian and others there have a 
tremendous amount of experience with Postfix and will be much more help to you 
than most people here.


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Re: performance problem in regex

2008-10-09 Thread Ivan Voras
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,
 I've got some performance hit using regex in libc on freebsd 6.3. I've 
 done some test whit the patterns that l7-filter [http://l7-filter.sf.net] use 
 to recognize level 7 internet protocol. For example, with the skypeout 
 pattern, 
 regexec() takes more tha 0.1 sec to do its work. Is this a know problem?

It's known that regex(3) is slow for some cases. See
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?regex , especially the paragraphs


 The regexec() function performance is poor.  This will improve with
later
 releases.  The nmatch argument exceeding 0 is expensive; nmatch
exceeding
 1 is worse.  The regexec() function is largely insensitive to RE
complex-
 ity except that back references are massively expensive.  RE length
does
 matter; in particular, there is a strong speed bonus for keeping RE
 length under about 30 characters, with most special characters counting
 roughly double.

 The regcomp() function implements bounded repetitions by macro
expansion,
 which is costly in time and space if counts are large or bounded
repeti-
 tions are nested.  An RE like, say,
 `a{1,100}){1,100}){1,100}){1,100}){1,100}' will (eventually) run
 almost any existing machine out of swap space.


Someone with more experience in the regex(3) implementation should see
if the pattern:

http://l7-filter.sourceforge.net/layer7-protocols/protocols/skypeout.pat

Falls into these conditions.



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Re: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-09 Thread Chad Marshall
Here's what I said to the last guy who says my skin is thin, just  
leave well enough alone and drop it please. Seems your skin is thin as  
well if you can't handle a little back talk :)


Well, I can always except critism. The problem is that I don't need  
rude responses for something I thought would be something to share for  
your organization, a success story of FreeBSD. Only for people to call  
me lazy and say Big Deal. If it's not a big deal, than say nothing.   
Maybe you should put someone in charge of answering emails who aren't  
cocky and smug, some responses were nice and at least supportive.


I still believe in FreeBSD and it's a great OS. It's the nix I started  
and learned with  but I think your community is full of conceited,  
pompous asses,  the reason I don't like to associate with IT people.  
I'd rather not give money to someone who has to insult me. If you go  
to a restaurant and you get a rude waiter, what do you do? I don't go  
back or give them a crap tip.


I get better tack out of forums where I'm asking for help on coding  
challenges than just simply offering a testimonial.




On Oct 9, 2008, at 7:35 AM, David Kelly wrote:


On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 07:07:31AM -0700, Chad Marshall wrote:


Sorry to bother you...You know, you could just leave well enough
alone if you don't care. There goes any future donations from me and
my organization as this is more than the first untactful email I
recieved from this, I'll donate and use other platforms. Please don't
send any other emails


If your skin is that thin, then good riddance. But just what sort of
control over this email list do you expect of the organization? I
seriously doubt you contribute enough to pay for a full time list
moderator.

FreeBSD-Questions is not the right place to say, 2 years!,
FreeBSD-Chat is the right place, and that's exactly what I did several
days before this one appeared on Questions.

Meanwhile, you should know where the off switch is to unsubscribe as
somehow you managed to subscribe.

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Re: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-09 Thread Mikel King


On Oct 8, 2008, at 9:00 PM, Chad Marshall wrote:

No Problem, I figured that there are other systems out there with a  
longer uptime. I have this server as a postfix/courier-imap/ 
squirrelmail  (60+ accounts and 30-40 forwards) mailserver with  
apache/php/mysql.  Also use it as a slave authoritative nameserver  
for over 100 zones (one zone with a 60sec TTL on a high volume  
production website) as well. Plus use it as a primary nameserver for  
our entire office (300+ workstations). I was lazy with it (Upgrading  
or Replacing) and when it hit a year, I decided to hold off doing  
anything with it as I wanted to see how long I could let it go.   
It's a celeron 2.4ghz server with 512m Ram and has been a champ  
server in it's performance and stability. I use CentOS for most of  
my other systems and find that as easy as it is for administration  
and upgrading, it lacks FreeBSD's performance. With the memory leaks  
that CentOS has, I usually have to end up restarting the  
machine(s).  With FreeBSD I can just restart the services, and got  
my memory back and reduce the amount of swap being used.


Regardless of the first email I got back (Which was a little rude),  
I will continue to run this server as long as I can and monitor the  
security risks using DenyHosts and other security measures.


Thanks,



On Oct 8, 2008, at 3:39 PM, Frank Shute wrote:


On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 08:54:47AM -0700, Chad Marshall wrote:



Hello,

Would like to share a success story which I'm sure you've had in the
past but one of my servers running FreeBSD will have an uptime of 2
years tomorrow. I plan on putting on my blog but as it doesn't have
much reach but wanted to share with you since your community has  
made

this possible. Please indicate where I could post this to have a bit
more reach or if you'd like to put a link to my blog, I'd be more  
than

happy to provide that.


Best Regards,



Sorry to rain on your parade:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-chat/2008-October/005719.html


Regards,

--

Frank




I think this is good news, and thanks for posting it. While it may not  
be a record holder, from an advocacy point of view it's nice to see.  
It means there one more rock solid server out there.


Cheers,
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CEO, Olivent Technologies
Senior Editor, Daemon News
Columnist, BSD Magazine
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cannot install from existing UFS thumb drive with sysinstall

2008-10-09 Thread Carl
I've crafted a USB flash thumb drive containing a bootable UFS partition 
containing the contents of 7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso. It boots properly 
and sysinstall runs as expected, so I'm all set to install FreeBSD to a 
system that has no optical drive. Just as fbsd2 in the following 
thread, I ran into the problem of being unable to specify the USB thumb 
drive as the installation media:


http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2007-08/msg00369.html
[ http://tinyurl.com/4o7pkl ]

I was not deterred though because I knew from Reid Linnemann's response 
that I just needed to select Install from an existing filesystem. I 
also understood that I'd need to go to the Fixit menu first and launch 
the Emergency Holographic Shell (EHS) first in order to mount the thumb 
drive's UFS partition. Unfortunately, the final response in the above 
thread appears to indicate that fbsd2 might not have understood what 
he was seeing and it seems no one followed up with an explanation or 
solution. The problem is that the EHS, exactly as advertised, has a very 
small set of commands. While it does include 'mount_nfs', it does not 
appear to include anything for mounting a local UFS filesystem, which 
strikes me as being a strange thing to leave out.


So, can anyone tell me how I can mount my thumb drive's UFS partition 
from within sysinstall? Linnemann countering the fbsd2 assertion that 
this is a show stopper now looks to me to have been a little hasty, but 
I need to believe I'm missing something here.


If there really isn't a way to mount the thumb drive's filesystem, is 
there a way to custom the ISO content such that either 1) the EHS can 
have 'mount' added to it, or 2) the thumb drive's filesystem can be 
automatically mounted upon sysinstall startup? Yes, I realize anything's 
possible if I were willing to build a whole new custom ISO from the 
ground up, but that's more dramatic than I'm ready for.


I know virtually nothing about NFS, so excuse what is probably a stupid 
question... is it possible to use sysinstall's NFS capabilities to mount 
a local UFS filesystem somehow?


Carl / K0802647

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Re: Canon Pixma iP4500 - problem with colours

2008-10-09 Thread WATANABE Kazuhiro
At Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:38:32 +0100,
Mike Clarke wrote:
 On Sunday 05 October 2008, WATANABE Kazuhiro wrote:
 
  So you will be able to use Canon iP4500 (and MP610/MP520/iP3500) with
  the procedure below.
 
 Thanks for the detailed installation instructions for the Pixma iP4500 
 linux drivers from Canon.
 
 I followed the instructions and everything went very smoothly apart from 
 one minor problem. Using rpm2cpio and cpio to extract the files from 
 cnijfilter-ip4500series-2.80-1.i386.rpm resulted in all the directories 
 being created with mode 700. This resulted in permission denied 
 errors when piping an ascii test file through a2ps and gs to cifip4500. 

Ouch... I tested the instructions on 8-current which had been
introduced bsdcpio.  FreeBSD 7.x and the former bundles GNU cpio.

2.7 and the former versions of GNU cpio has a bug.  If the original
cpio archive has no information about directories (such as the output
of rpm2cpio), the old GNU cpio sets those permission to 700
unconditionally.

The latest version of GNU cpio, and bsdcpio reflects the value of
umask in such a case.

 http://www.gnu.org/software/cpio/#releases


 After setting the directory permissions to 755 everything was fine and 
 I now have a functional printer.

So currently the users other than 8-current should do the following
procedure:

$ mkdir ip4500  # working directory
$ cd ip4500
$ rpm2cpio /PATH/TO/cnijfilter-ip4500series-2.80-1.i386.rpm | cpio -ivd
$ find ./usr -type d | xargs chmod 755  # fix directory permission
$ su
Password:
# cp -Ri ./usr /compat/linux/
# /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig -r /compat/linux


 The output quality is much better than I could get with the gutenprint 
 driver but the output is limited to 600 dpi so it's nothing like as 
 good as the windows driver in high quality mode. But it is certainly 
 good enough for normal day to day use and I don't mind switching to 
 Windows for the occasional high quality photo print. 
 
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Re: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-09 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Thursday, October 09, 2008 09:34:02 -0500 Jerry McAllister 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 07:07:31AM -0700, Chad Marshall wrote:



 Sorry to bother you...You know, you could just leave well enough
alone if you don't care. There goes any future donations from me and
my organization as this is more than the first untactful email I
recieved from this, I'll donate and use other platforms. Please don't
send any other emails



Kind of touchy, wouldn't you think?
People are giving you some perspective.
Well, anyway, you have the choice of using a superior system
or let scratchy responses lead you to something less suitable.



When I was a young boy, I went on vacation with my family to a lake in upper 
Minnesota.  (My mother's ancestral home.)  The weather was beautiful, the water 
was warm and inviting, the swimming was thoroughly enjoyable and the cabin we 
stayed in was luxurious (by the standards of a little boy.)


However, my mother said something to me that mad me angry.  To punish her, I 
stomped off in a huff and spent the remainder of the vacation scowling in the 
cabin.  I refused to swim until she corrected the perceived injustice. 
Needless to say, my punishment caused me a great deal more consternation than 
it did her, or my siblings who were all happily enjoying the water and the 
boating and the entire lovely vacation while I fumed in the cabin.


Self-inflicted wounds are often the most painful of all.

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Re: Update System from 6.1 to last 6 Release with NOT generic Kernel...

2008-10-09 Thread Agus
2008/10/9 RW [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 19:08:42 -0300
 Agus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi guys...

 Just wanted to check a few things before crapping my system..hehehe

 I am planning on updating the system from 6.1 to the last 6.3-RELEASE
 p5 i think it isaccording to the freebsd-update.sh...

 I am plannin on doing it with this tool...but my main concern is the
 modified kernel and the ports...

 You can't use freebsd-update on a modified kernel.

 Ports can be left unchanged unless you change the  major version and go
 to 7.
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Ohhthanks...

But in the middle of freebsd-update it says to update the kernel and
rebuild it.how should i update the kernelor when it reboots
and the /usr/src files have changed; i can see the new GENERIC
filei have to rebuild it from that new modified GENERIC, so that i
custom it, and build the kernel from there?

Thanks mate!
Cheers,
Agustin
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daily/weekly/monthly periodic output

2008-10-09 Thread Corey Dulecki
I have FreeBSD 6.2 running on IBM hardware, single CPU.  This server 
does not have sendmail enabled at all, i.e., in /etc/rc.conf, all four 
of the sendmail_xxx enablers are set to NO.  Today, the /var 
filesystem ran out of inodes.


I tracked the issue down to files that keep appearing in 
/var/spool/clientmqueue.  I've researched enough to understand that 
these files represent emails that cannot be sent, presumably because I 
do not have a mail server running on the system.  I do not want to 
enable sendmail or any other client; what I want to do is have the 
processes which generate these emails send their information to a log, 
which I will check manually.  I believe these emails are being generated 
by the daily/weekly/monthly periodic processes, something that I didn't 
even know existed until I ran out of inodes.


My question is this:  How can I make it so that these periodic processes 
simply log their messages instead of sending emails that get stuck in 
clientmqueue?  Alternatively, if I can't do that, how do I simply turn 
off these emails entirely so that they are not sent?

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Re: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-09 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hi,

2008/10/9 Chad Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Well, I can always except critism. The problem is that I don't need rude
 responses for something I thought would be something to share for your
 organization, a success story of FreeBSD. Only for people to call me lazy
 and say Big Deal. If it's not a big deal, than say nothing.  Maybe you
 should put someone in charge of answering emails who aren't cocky and smug,
 some responses were nice and at least supportive.

Chad - I think that you need to understand one thing. This is a public
list and majority of people who post/respond here aren't FreeBSD
Foundation workers but users of this great OS. At least I see the need
to separate the two. So if people are playing kind of rude, just
ignore them. I was glad to hear that FreeBSD proved useful to you, as
it is proving useful to me and an NGO I work for. I could give you
hips of examples when thanks to this list I have learnt something
useful or was given useful advice. And two years ago I knew nothing
about Unix or Linux. Thanks to this list I can manage FreeBSD (almost)
on my own. :)

But the discussion that followed made me realize that uptime is not
everything. I also love to see huge uptimes on my servers but if
anything this discussion brought it home to me that more than anything
I need to take care of security updates which I do.

All the best,

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Re: daily/weekly/monthly periodic output

2008-10-09 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 10:52:14AM -0400, Corey Dulecki wrote:
 I have FreeBSD 6.2 running on IBM hardware, single CPU.  This server  
 does not have sendmail enabled at all, i.e., in /etc/rc.conf, all four  
 of the sendmail_xxx enablers are set to NO.  Today, the /var  
 filesystem ran out of inodes.

 I tracked the issue down to files that keep appearing in  
 /var/spool/clientmqueue.

Which makes no sense, since you're using postfix -- postfix does not use
that directory.  It sounds to me like possibly your
/etc/mail/mailer.conf (used by mailwrapper) is still pointing to the
Sendmail (non-postfix) binaries.

 I've researched enough to understand that  
 these files represent emails that cannot be sent, presumably because I  
 do not have a mail server running on the system.  I do not want to  
 enable sendmail or any other client; what I want to do is have the  
 processes which generate these emails send their information to a log,  
 which I will check manually.  I believe these emails are being generated  
 by the daily/weekly/monthly periodic processes, something that I didn't  
 even know existed until I ran out of inodes.

 My question is this:  How can I make it so that these periodic processes  
 simply log their messages instead of sending emails that get stuck in  
 clientmqueue?  Alternatively, if I can't do that, how do I simply turn  
 off these emails entirely so that they are not sent?

You should be using these values in rc.conf:

# We use postfix
postfix_enable=yes
sendmail_enable=NO
sendmail_submit_enable=NO
sendmail_outbound_enable=NO
sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO

And these values in periodic.conf:

# We use postfix
daily_clean_hoststat_enable=NO
daily_status_mail_rejects_enable=NO
daily_status_include_submit_mailq=NO
daily_submit_queuerun=NO

And these values in /etc/mail/mailer.conf:

sendmail/usr/local/sbin/sendmail
send-mail   /usr/local/sbin/sendmail
mailq   /usr/local/sbin/sendmail
newaliases  /usr/local/sbin/sendmail

If you *really* want to turn off daily/weekly/monthly mails -- which I
strongly DO NOT recommend you do, for MANY reasons -- you should look at
/etc/defaults/periodic.conf for all of the values you can tune.  DO NOT
edit that file -- use /etc/periodic.conf instead.

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Re: php5 segfault

2008-10-09 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 01:15:59PM +0200, Laszlo Nagy wrote:

 I thought you said you changed the order and it didn't work?  *confused*
   
 I said no success so far. There are more than 20 modules and there is no  
 description about what the good order should be. I had to keep trying...
 If so: it should be obvious why it hasn't been fixed.  It doesn't appear
 to affect everyone -- for example, we have never seen this problem in
 the 4-5 years we've been using PHP on FreeBSD -- and the solution
 doesn't really make much sense anyway.  It smells of a missing symbol
 problem (e.g. libxx.so wants a symbol named hello_bob, but the symbol
 is available in libyy.so, which has to be loaded first; however, ld.so
 and dlopen(3) have explicit handling for this scenario (see RTLD_NOW vs.
 RTLD_LAZY), so I'm at a loss).
   
 Maybe you are right. But I would think that a missing symbol problem  
 should throw an error message telling missing symbol instead of making  
 a segfault.

That all depends on the C code.  If you'd like to dig around in it and
investigate/debug it to find out what the true nature of the problem is,
that would be beneficial, since AFAIK no one has done that yet.  It's
all speculative.

 That said, if you feel this is a humongous issue, I highly recommend you
 mail the PHP port maintainer and express your concerns, or open a PR
   
 We had the same problem on our previous server. I'm going to install  
 another box today and test it. If the problem comes out again, I'm going  
 to write a PR.

And I would also recommend filing a bug report with the PHP folks.  This
may be something that's a PHP problem and not a FreeBSD problem.  It may
not be a Linux problem because for all we know the Linux RPMs and
Portage stuff in CentOS/Gentoo could have workarounds in place.

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Re: daily/weekly/monthly periodic output

2008-10-09 Thread RW
On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 10:52:14 -0400
Corey Dulecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My question is this:  How can I make it so that these periodic
 processes simply log their messages instead of sending emails that
 get stuck in clientmqueue?  

Take a look at the *_output variables in /etc/defaults/periodic.conf
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Re: daily/weekly/monthly periodic output

2008-10-09 Thread Greg Larkin
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Corey Dulecki wrote:
 I have FreeBSD 6.2 running on IBM hardware, single CPU.  This server
 does not have sendmail enabled at all, i.e., in /etc/rc.conf, all four
 of the sendmail_xxx enablers are set to NO.  Today, the /var
 filesystem ran out of inodes.
 
 I tracked the issue down to files that keep appearing in
 /var/spool/clientmqueue.  I've researched enough to understand that
 these files represent emails that cannot be sent, presumably because I
 do not have a mail server running on the system.  I do not want to
 enable sendmail or any other client; what I want to do is have the
 processes which generate these emails send their information to a log,
 which I will check manually.  I believe these emails are being generated
 by the daily/weekly/monthly periodic processes, something that I didn't
 even know existed until I ran out of inodes.
 
 My question is this:  How can I make it so that these periodic processes
 simply log their messages instead of sending emails that get stuck in
 clientmqueue?  Alternatively, if I can't do that, how do I simply turn
 off these emails entirely so that they are not sent?

Hi Corey,

If you don't already have an /etc/periodic.conf file, create one with
the following entries:

daily_output=/var/log/daily.log   # user or /file
daily_status_security_output=/var/log/daily.log   # user or /file
weekly_output=/var/log/weekly.log # user or /file
monthly_output=/var/log/monthly.log   # user or /file

All of the output from the periodic scripts will be redirected to those
files.  You'll likely want to rotate those files regularly.  I have the
following in my /etc/newsyslog.conf file:

/var/log/daily.log  640  7 *@T00  JN
/var/log/monthly.log640  12*$M1D0 JN
/var/log/weekly.log 640  5 1$W6D0 JN

Regards,
Greg
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smbpasswd mortal user

2008-10-09 Thread Scott MacCallum
Greetings,

I would like my users to be able to change their Samba password using the
smbpasswd command. As of right now only root is allowed to do this. I set
the smbpasswd command with the same permissions as the passwd command and I
still cannot run it as a mortal user. I read the FreeBSD handbook and
understand that smbpasswd is no longer the preferred tool to do what I want
with version of Samba I am running, however it too cannot be run as a mortal
user. In any case, I would like to continue using the smbpasswd command.

Does someone have a solution they can share?


FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008
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Samba version 3.0.28 (from ports)

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Re: smbpasswd mortal user

2008-10-09 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 10:53:32AM -0400, Scott MacCallum wrote:
 I would like my users to be able to change their Samba password using the
 smbpasswd command. As of right now only root is allowed to do this. I set
 the smbpasswd command with the same permissions as the passwd command and I
 still cannot run it as a mortal user. I read the FreeBSD handbook and
 understand that smbpasswd is no longer the preferred tool to do what I want
 with version of Samba I am running, however it too cannot be run as a mortal
 user. In any case, I would like to continue using the smbpasswd command.
 
 Does someone have a solution they can share?

Users editing their own passwords -- I have no idea how to solve that.
I don't think it's possible because the commands also allow you (or a
user) to edit many different fields in their account, including
disabling password expiry, changing their unique ID, all that jazz.  It
sounds like you might have to write a program/utility to do this, acting
as a wrapper around pdbedit(8).

smbpasswd(8) isn't recommend any more, true.  If you're like me and do
not care for things like LDAP and prefer flat-files, use the tdbsam
password database method, and the pdbedit(8) command to edit passwords
and do things to accounts.  All I use in smb.conf is:

private dir = /conf/ME/samba
passdb backend = tdbsam

Thus passdb.tdb and secrets.tdb will end up going into /conf/ME/samba.

You can also say passdb backend = tdbsam:/some/place which will store
passdb.tdb in /some/place; secrets.tdb will still end up in private
dir

 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008
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Consider upgrading (world/kernel) soon, as you're susceptible to some
security issues.  Just a comment in passing; not the focus of this mail.

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Re: daily/weekly/monthly periodic output

2008-10-09 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Corey Dulecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have FreeBSD 6.2 running on IBM hardware, single CPU.  This server
 does not have sendmail enabled at all, i.e., in /etc/rc.conf, all four
 of the sendmail_xxx enablers are set to NO.  Today, the /var
 filesystem ran out of inodes.

 I tracked the issue down to files that keep appearing in
 /var/spool/clientmqueue.  I've researched enough to understand that
 these files represent emails that cannot be sent, presumably because I
 do not have a mail server running on the system.  I do not want to
 enable sendmail or any other client; what I want to do is have the
 processes which generate these emails send their information to a log,
 which I will check manually.  I believe these emails are being
 generated by the daily/weekly/monthly periodic processes, something
 that I didn't even know existed until I ran out of inodes.

 My question is this:  How can I make it so that these periodic
 processes simply log their messages instead of sending emails that get
 stuck in clientmqueue?  Alternatively, if I can't do that, how do I
 simply turn off these emails entirely so that they are not sent?

Look at man periodic.conf.
The *_output variables are exactly what you want, and there are
example values listed.

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Re: daily/weekly/monthly periodic output

2008-10-09 Thread Corey Dulecki

Thank you all for your very fast assistance!

Greg Larkin wrote:

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Corey Dulecki wrote:
  

I have FreeBSD 6.2 running on IBM hardware, single CPU.  This server
does not have sendmail enabled at all, i.e., in /etc/rc.conf, all four
of the sendmail_xxx enablers are set to NO.  Today, the /var
filesystem ran out of inodes.

I tracked the issue down to files that keep appearing in
/var/spool/clientmqueue.  I've researched enough to understand that
these files represent emails that cannot be sent, presumably because I
do not have a mail server running on the system.  I do not want to
enable sendmail or any other client; what I want to do is have the
processes which generate these emails send their information to a log,
which I will check manually.  I believe these emails are being generated
by the daily/weekly/monthly periodic processes, something that I didn't
even know existed until I ran out of inodes.

My question is this:  How can I make it so that these periodic processes
simply log their messages instead of sending emails that get stuck in
clientmqueue?  Alternatively, if I can't do that, how do I simply turn
off these emails entirely so that they are not sent?



Hi Corey,

If you don't already have an /etc/periodic.conf file, create one with
the following entries:

daily_output=/var/log/daily.log   # user or /file
daily_status_security_output=/var/log/daily.log   # user or /file
weekly_output=/var/log/weekly.log # user or /file
monthly_output=/var/log/monthly.log   # user or /file

All of the output from the periodic scripts will be redirected to those
files.  You'll likely want to rotate those files regularly.  I have the
following in my /etc/newsyslog.conf file:

/var/log/daily.log  640  7 *@T00  JN
/var/log/monthly.log640  12*$M1D0 JN
/var/log/weekly.log 640  5 1$W6D0 JN

Regards,
Greg
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setkey panic freebsd7

2008-10-09 Thread alan yang
i wonder people ran into similar issue on setkey with freebsd7 that
panic at ~/crypto/sha1.c:263 within sha1_result()
  digest[0] = ctxt-h.b8[3]; digest[1] = ctxt-h.b8[2];

on the following sadb add with setkey:
  add 192.168.0.101 192.168.0.110 esp-old 0x10001 -m any -E des-cbc
12345678 -A keyed-sha1 12345678123456781234

thanks in advance on any hints.
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Re: Kernel panic! 7.0-RELEASE-p4

2008-10-09 Thread Walter Venable
Thanks, that took care of it.

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Manolis Kiagias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Walter Venable wrote:

 Our box, without readily obvious provocation, started doing this today:
 Panic: softdep_setup_inomapdep: dependency for new inode already exists.
 cpuid: 0
 physical memory: 1971 MB
 dumping 78MB: 63 47 31 15

 The system then immediately reboots, and hits the panic, reboots, etc.
 What can I do??


 Maybe boot into single user mode and run fsck?
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Portsnap causes system to reboot

2008-10-09 Thread Walter Venable
Whenever I run portsnap fetch update (edit: it also happens for a
simple portsnap fetch), my system reboots unexpectedly. Here's the
output:
# portsnap fetch update
Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found.
Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap2.FreeBSD.org... done.
Fetching snapshot metadata... done.
Updating from Wed Sep 24 00:04:04 EEST 2008 to Thu Oct  9 10:28:42 EEST 2008.
Fetching 3 metadata patches.. done.
Applying metadata patches... done.
Fetching 3 metadata files... done.
Fetching 602 
patches.102030405060708090100110120130140150160170180190200210220230240250260270280290300310320330340350360370380390400410420430440450460470480490500510520530540550560570580590600.
done.
Applying patches... Read from remote host X: Connection reset by peer
Connection to X closed.

And then I can log-in again a few minutes later, and the uptime has
gone down to a few seconds, so I know it rebooted. Any ideas why this
is happening?

Some background info:
$ uname -mrs
FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p5 i386

And:
$ cat /etc/make.conf
# added by use.perl 2008-07-16 15:32:01
PERL_VER=5.8.8
PERL_VERSION=5.8.8

CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe
COPTFLAGS=-O2 -pipe
CPUTYPE=athlon-xp

NO_PROFILE=true

Since this started happening, I have still successfully updated ports
by csup'ing the ports tree. I can also still rebuild the world and
kernel without issue.  This is a remote box, and I don't use X with
it.
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Re: Portsnap causes system to reboot

2008-10-09 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 07:38:09PM +0300, Walter Venable wrote:
 Whenever I run portsnap fetch update (edit: it also happens for a
 simple portsnap fetch), my system reboots unexpectedly. Here's the
 output:
 # portsnap fetch update
 Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found.
 Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap2.FreeBSD.org... done.
 Fetching snapshot metadata... done.
 Updating from Wed Sep 24 00:04:04 EEST 2008 to Thu Oct  9 10:28:42 EEST 2008.
 Fetching 3 metadata patches.. done.
 Applying metadata patches... done.
 Fetching 3 metadata files... done.
 Fetching 602 
 patches.102030405060708090100110120130140150160170180190200210220230240250260270280290300310320330340350360370380390400410420430440450460470480490500510520530540550560570580590600.
 done.
 Applying patches... Read from remote host X: Connection reset by peer
 Connection to X closed.
 
 And then I can log-in again a few minutes later, and the uptime has
 gone down to a few seconds, so I know it rebooted. Any ideas why this
 is happening?

Nope, not without kernel panic information.

Does this machine have serial console?  Are kernel panic dumps being put
into /var/crash?  Is the machine even configured for it (see dumpdev,
dumpdir, and savecore in rc.conf).

 Some background info:
 $ uname -mrs
 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p5 i386

It would be useful if you could provide uname -a please, if you're
concerned about the hostname, just XXX it out.  Seeing the kernel build
date is useful.

 CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe
 COPTFLAGS=-O2 -pipe
 CPUTYPE=athlon-xp

Please don't do this.  Use ?= for this, not =.  If you think I'm
trolling, please read /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf.

 Since this started happening, I have still successfully updated ports
 by csup'ing the ports tree. I can also still rebuild the world and
 kernel without issue.  This is a remote box, and I don't use X with
 it.

It almost sounds like a filesystem problem.  You might consider booting
into single-user and running fsck -y.

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Re: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-09 Thread mdh
--- On Thu, 10/9/08, Chad Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Maybe you should put someone in charge of answering emails
 who aren't  
 cocky and smug

This is a public mailing list.  No one is in charge of answering mails to it.  
When sending to -questions, you are emailing the community of people, most of 
whom are willing to help when they have time and knowledge.  

 I still believe in FreeBSD and it's a great OS.
 It's the nix I started  
 and learned with  but I think your community is full of
 conceited,  
 pompous asses,  the reason I don't like to associate
 with IT people.  
 I'd rather not give money to someone who has to insult
 me. 

No one on this list gets paid for helping others via it.  If you want paid 
support with no risk of potentially being offended by someone, you can actually 
pay for support through any one of many companies, or just hire a consultant.  

 If you go  
 to a restaurant and you get a rude waiter, what do you do?
 I don't go  
 back or give them a crap tip.

You're under some whacky and wholly mistaken impression that anyone here is 
getting tips.  We're here to help other users because that's how the community 
interoperates.  Others help me, I in turn help others.  If someone were rude to 
me or generally behaved poorly on the list, I may then be less inclined to 
answer a question they ask which I may know the answer to, or vice-versa.  

Take care, mdh



  
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Re: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-09 Thread Jon Radel


Chad Marshall wrote:


Here's what I said to the last guy who says my skin is thin, just leave 
well enough alone and drop it please. Seems your skin is thin as well if 
you can't handle a little back talk :)


Well, I can always except critism. The problem is that I don't need rude 
responses for something I thought would be something to share for your 
organization, a success story of FreeBSD. Only for people to call me 
lazy and say Big Deal. If it's not a big deal, than say nothing.  
Maybe you should put someone in charge of answering emails who aren't 
cocky and smug, some responses were nice and at least supportive.


I still believe in FreeBSD and it's a great OS. It's the nix I started 
and learned with  but I think your community is full of conceited, 
pompous asses,  the reason I don't like to associate with IT people. I'd 
rather not give money to someone who has to insult me. If you go to a 
restaurant and you get a rude waiter, what do you do? I don't go back or 
give them a crap tip.


I get better tack out of forums where I'm asking for help on coding 
challenges than just simply offering a testimonial.




Dear Mr. Marshall:

I'm terribly sorry that our representatives in charge of answering 
emails have been rude to you.  I've just fired the lot of them, 
particularly as we can't afford to keep then on anymore seeing as how 
your generous donations are now in jeopardy.


Moving forward I certainly hope that you evaluate your operating systems 
based on their technical merits and overall ROI, where I believe you 
will find that FreeBSD stands out, as it has for years, as a hard 
working operating system to support your Internet requirements at low cost.


I will ask, however, that in the future you constrain your e-mail to 
freebsd-questions to either questions or answers to them, so as to not 
inflame our more excitable representatives once we hire a new, much 
reduced, batch of them.


Thanks.

--Jon Radel
Who will now resign in shame
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Re: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-09 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
2008/10/9 Jon Radel:

 Dear Mr. Marshall:

 I'm terribly sorry that our representatives in charge of answering emails
 have been rude to you.  I've just fired the lot of them, particularly as we
 can't afford to keep then on anymore seeing as how your generous donations
 are now in jeopardy.

How is that supposed to be helpful?

 I will ask, however, that in the future you constrain your e-mail to
 freebsd-questions to either questions or answers to them, so as to not
 inflame our more excitable representatives once we hire a new, much reduced,
 batch of them.

Can you follow your own advice?

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Re: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-09 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Zbigniew Szalbot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2008/10/9 Jon Radel:

 Dear Mr. Marshall:

 I'm terribly sorry that our representatives in charge of answering emails
 have been rude to you.  I've just fired the lot of them, particularly as we
 can't afford to keep then on anymore seeing as how your generous donations
 are now in jeopardy.

 How is that supposed to be helpful?

 I will ask, however, that in the future you constrain your e-mail to
 freebsd-questions to either questions or answers to them, so as to not
 inflame our more excitable representatives once we hire a new, much reduced,
 batch of them.

 Can you follow your own advice?

 --
 Zbigniew Szalbot

I love the direction this thread has taken. First, humorous, then it
will turn into flames.  I bet all my US$:-)

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Re: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-09 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hi,

2008/10/9 Odhiambo Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I love the direction this thread has taken. First, humorous, then it
 will turn into flames.  I bet all my US$:-)

Well, I do not have much to lose in terms of USD ;) but I cannot
really understand why some people are still sort of getting on this
particular user. How does this help to promote FreeBSD? What will new
people joining this community think? What if someone just wanted to
send a donation for FreeBSD foundation? You never really know. I find
it difficult to comprehend why would someone want to undermine FBSD
Foundation work (which we all benefit from) through careless words and
actions.

Yours,

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Re: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-09 Thread matt donovan
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Zbigniew Szalbot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 2008/10/9 Odhiambo Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I love the direction this thread has taken. First, humorous, then it
  will turn into flames.  I bet all my US$:-)

 Well, I do not have much to lose in terms of USD ;) but I cannot
 really understand why some people are still sort of getting on this
 particular user. How does this help to promote FreeBSD? What will new
 people joining this community think? What if someone just wanted to
 send a donation for FreeBSD foundation? You never really know. I find
 it difficult to comprehend why would someone want to undermine FBSD
 Foundation work (which we all benefit from) through careless words and
 actions.

 Yours,

 --
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this 2 years thing is actually more of a -advocacy email more then anything.
since that deals with promoting and donations.

 Since this email list is more for questions. I just find the whole 2 year
thing not important aka not a question hence why I said why is this
important for this mailing list
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Re: Can't get soundcard to work

2008-10-09 Thread Alexander Motin

Frank Shute wrote:

On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 09:12:28AM +0200, Aniruddha wrote:

On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 23:31 +0100, Frank Shute wrote:

ls /dev/d
da0  da2  dconsdevstat  dsp0.0   dsp1.0   
da1  da3  devctl   dgdb dsp0.1   dumpdev 

On my machine:

$ ls /dev | grep dsp
dsp0.0
dsp0.1

i.e no dsp1.0


It will be created on demand when sound application will try to open it 
directly. Also it may be set as default with hw.snd.default_unit sysctl 
described in man sound.



What does:

$ cat /dev/sndstat

give you?

sndstat:

FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386)
Installed devices:
pcm0: ATI (Unknown) High Definition Audio Controller at memory

0xff9ec000 irq 17 kld snd_hda [20080420_0052] [MPSAFE] (mixer only)

pcm1: Intel 82801G High Definition Audio Controller at memory

0xffafc000 irq 19 kld snd_hda [20080420_0052] [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v
channels duplex)


The driver is binding to both.


Indeed. First one is HDMI on video and second on motherboard. The old 
snd_hda driver you have surely unable to manage first one. Second looks 
better, but also should be tested. Updated driver in 8-CURRENT should 
work better. It could be ported to 7-STABLE without any modifications.


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Sysinstall

2008-10-09 Thread borish

Hi,

I have the following prblem with sysinstall: when I run sysinstall inside  
an xterm I find it very difficult to read the yellow font on the gray  
background, which appears very light on my laptop LCD and also on an Eizo  
LCD. Strangely, the gray is much darker if I run sysinstall from the  
console outside X. Is there a way to make the gray darker when sysinstall  
is run inside an xterm?


I'm running fbsd 7.

Best regards,
Boris
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Re: Sysinstall

2008-10-09 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 08:32:50PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I have the following prblem with sysinstall: when I run sysinstall inside 
 an xterm I find it very difficult to read the yellow font on the gray  
 background, which appears very light on my laptop LCD and also on an Eizo 
 LCD. Strangely, the gray is much darker if I run sysinstall from the  
 console outside X. Is there a way to make the gray darker when sysinstall 
 is run inside an xterm?

This should be solved at the core: adjust the RGB colours associated
with the ANSI/colour sequences in xterm.  Does xterm support this?
Surely it stores the RGB values somewhere, I just don't know if they're
hard-coded.  (I'm not an X guru).

It's quite possible in programs like rxvt, PuTTY, and SecureCRT
(Windows).

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Re: TRUE realtime priority

2008-10-09 Thread Wojciech Puchar

well last night i tested it with SCHED_4BSD instead of sched_ule, reduced
quantum to 2 from 10 and for now - no voice chopping under high
load. but i will test it more.


What version of FreeBSD are you using for this?  Yes, it matters.


got RELENG_7 yesterday by cvs, now SCHED_ULE works fine.
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Re: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-09 Thread Drew Tomlinson

Chad Marshall wrote:
Here's what I said to the last guy who says my skin is thin, just 
leave well enough alone and drop it please. Seems your skin is thin as 
well if you can't handle a little back talk :)


Well, I can always except critism. The problem is that I don't need 
rude responses for something I thought would be something to share for 
your organization, a success story of FreeBSD. Only for people to call 
me lazy and say Big Deal. If it's not a big deal, than say nothing.  
Maybe you should put someone in charge of answering emails who aren't 
cocky and smug, some responses were nice and at least supportive.


I still believe in FreeBSD and it's a great OS. It's the nix I started 
and learned with  but I think your community is full of conceited, 
pompous asses,  the reason I don't like to associate with IT people. 
I'd rather not give money to someone who has to insult me. If you go 
to a restaurant and you get a rude waiter, what do you do? I don't go 
back or give them a crap tip.


Godwin's Law will be invoked soon...  :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
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Re: TRUE realtime priority

2008-10-09 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 10:00:16PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 well last night i tested it with SCHED_4BSD instead of sched_ule, reduced
 quantum to 2 from 10 and for now - no voice chopping under high
 load. but i will test it more.

 What version of FreeBSD are you using for this?  Yes, it matters.

 got RELENG_7 yesterday by cvs, now SCHED_ULE works fine.

Great!  Glad to hear it.  :-)  Thanks for following up!

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Dell Laptop

2008-10-09 Thread Albert Shih
Hi all

Classic question about compatibility with new laptop...

Anyone have succefuly (or not) install FreeBSD 7.x on the new Dell
Precision M6400 or the Precision M6300 ? 

I don't find any information on google. neither on 
http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ 

Lots of thanks. 

Regards. 

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How To Get libm.so.4?

2008-10-09 Thread Drew Tomlinson
I am attempting to install a web analysis tool named Urchin from 
Google.  Installation instructions are here:


https://secure.urchin.com/helpwiki/en/Urchin_Installation_Guide_(FreeBSD_and_Linux)

Urchin claims to run on FBSD 6.2+ which I took to mean version 6.2 or 
greater.  Since this is a brand new install, I installed FBSD 
7.1-PRERELEASE, assuming the actual release would not be too far off.


I'm following the install procedures which has me run a ./install.sh 
script.  This script fails, complaining about a missing libm.so.4.  I've 
Googled and found some reference that this has to do with installing 
compatibility libraries for FBSD 4.  Thus I've added COMPAT4X= yes and 
rebuilt and installed my world.  However I still do not have this file.


What do I need to do?

Thanks,

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Re: Dell Laptop M6400

2008-10-09 Thread Albert Shih
 Le 09/10/2008 à 22:04:24+0200, Albert Shih a écrit
 Hi all
 
 Classic question about compatibility with new laptop...
 
 Anyone have succefuly (or not) install FreeBSD 7.x on the new Dell
 Precision M6400 or the Precision M6300 ? 
 
 I don't find any information on google. neither on 
 http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ 
 
 Lots of thanks. 
 
I forget to say I don't really care if the webcam, the mic, the sound etc..
working or not. All I'm worry about is if I can install FreeBSD, and use
it. I think the video card is not a problem (because I can use Nvidia
drivers I hope), but what about the raid chipset ? the network card ? 

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FreeBSD support for HP DL180/G5

2008-10-09 Thread Josef Grosch

Does anyone have experience running FreeBSD 6.x and 7.x on an HP DL180/G5?
The company I work for is looking to get a number of these to be put in
production. Your general impressions would be a good start.



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Re: How To Get libm.so.4?

2008-10-09 Thread Wojciech Puchar

/usr/ports/misc/compat6x



On Thu, 9 Oct 2008, Drew Tomlinson wrote:

I am attempting to install a web analysis tool named Urchin from Google. 
Installation instructions are here:


https://secure.urchin.com/helpwiki/en/Urchin_Installation_Guide_(FreeBSD_and_Linux)

Urchin claims to run on FBSD 6.2+ which I took to mean version 6.2 or 
greater.  Since this is a brand new install, I installed FBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE, 
assuming the actual release would not be too far off.


I'm following the install procedures which has me run a ./install.sh script. 
This script fails, complaining about a missing libm.so.4.  I've Googled and 
found some reference that this has to do with installing compatibility 
libraries for FBSD 4.  Thus I've added COMPAT4X= yes and rebuilt and 
installed my world.  However I still do not have this file.


What do I need to do?

Thanks,

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Re: How To Get libm.so.4?

2008-10-09 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Oct 09), Drew Tomlinson said:
 I am attempting to install a web analysis tool named Urchin from
 Google.  Installation instructions are here:
 
 https://secure.urchin.com/helpwiki/en/Urchin_Installation_Guide_(FreeBSD_and_Linux)
 
 Urchin claims to run on FBSD 6.2+ which I took to mean version 6.2 or
 greater.  Since this is a brand new install, I installed FBSD
 7.1-PRERELEASE, assuming the actual release would not be too far off.
 
 I'm following the install procedures which has me run a ./install.sh
 script.  This script fails, complaining about a missing libm.so.4. 
 I've Googled and found some reference that this has to do with
 installing compatibility libraries for FBSD 4.  Thus I've added
 COMPAT4X= yes and rebuilt and installed my world.  However I still
 do not have this file.

Major FreeBSD version bumps have historically resulted in most of the
base system's shared library versions getting bumped as well. libc.so.4
would have been for FreeBSD 4, but libm doesn't get bumped as often.
libm.so.4 corresponds to FreeBSD 6, and you can get it by installing
the misc/compat6x port.

FreeBSD 7 and later use symbol versioning (which allows different
versions of the the same function to exist in a single library), so
library version bumps theoretically are a thing of the past.

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irq256 ????

2008-10-09 Thread Zahemszky Gábor
Hi!

I've just found in my machine's vmstat -i output:

===
$ vmstat -i
interrupt  total   rate
irq1: atkbd0   15524  0
irq6: fdc014  0
irq12: psm0   279947 16
irq15: ata141835  2
irq16: uhci0 drm01407076 81
irq17: atapci0257828 14
irq19: fwohci0++  16  0
irq21: uhci1 ahc0+ 41712  2
irq22: pcm052848  3
irq23: uhci2 ehci1 1  0
cpu0: timer 33503897   1929


irq256: em042054  2

===^

cpu1: timer 33495040   1928
Total   69137792   3981
$ dmesg|fgrep em0
em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 6.9.5 port 0x30c0-0x30df
mem 0x9030-0x9031,0x90324000-0x90324fff irq 20 at device 25.0 on pci0 
em0: Using MSI interrupt em0: [FILTER]
em0: Ethernet address: 00:19:d1:25:78:0a
$ uname -a
FreeBSD XXX 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #0: Thu Oct  2 21:35:45 CEST 
2008
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386 $ 


What's that? (world and kernel are in sync)

Thanks,

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Re: How To Get libm.so.4?

2008-10-09 Thread Drew Tomlinson

Wojciech Puchar wrote:

/usr/ports/misc/compat6x


Thanks.  This worked.

Cheers,

Drew


On Thu, 9 Oct 2008, Drew Tomlinson wrote:

I am attempting to install a web analysis tool named Urchin from 
Google. Installation instructions are here:


https://secure.urchin.com/helpwiki/en/Urchin_Installation_Guide_(FreeBSD_and_Linux) 



Urchin claims to run on FBSD 6.2+ which I took to mean version 6.2 or 
greater.  Since this is a brand new install, I installed FBSD 
7.1-PRERELEASE, assuming the actual release would not be too far off.


I'm following the install procedures which has me run a ./install.sh 
script. This script fails, complaining about a missing libm.so.4.  
I've Googled and found some reference that this has to do with 
installing compatibility libraries for FBSD 4.  Thus I've added 
COMPAT4X= yes and rebuilt and installed my world.  However I still 
do not have this file.


What do I need to do?

Thanks,

Drew


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Re: setkey panic freebsd7

2008-10-09 Thread VANHULLEBUS Yvan
Hi.


On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 08:46:32AM -0700, alan yang wrote:
 i wonder people ran into similar issue on setkey with freebsd7 that
 panic at ~/crypto/sha1.c:263 within sha1_result()
   digest[0] = ctxt-h.b8[3]; digest[1] = ctxt-h.b8[2];
 
 on the following sadb add with setkey:
   add 192.168.0.101 192.168.0.110 esp-old 0x10001 -m any -E des-cbc
 12345678 -A keyed-sha1 12345678123456781234
 
 thanks in advance on any hints.

I guess most people just don't use static SAs anymore :-)

Can you reproduce the bug ?
Are you using /sbin/setkey (provided by FreeBSD),
/usr/local/sbin/setkey (provided by ipsec-tools), or does it crash
with both ?


If you can reproduce it, please fill in a PR, Bjoern or I will take
it.

Anyways, I'll have a look asap at that part of the code, to see if I
can find something.

Any extra information on how to reproduce the bug is welcome ! :-)


Yvan.
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Re: FreeBSD support for HP DL180/G5

2008-10-09 Thread David Alanis

Quoting Josef Grosch [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



Does anyone have experience running FreeBSD 6.x and 7.x on an HP DL180/G5?
The company I work for is looking to get a number of these to be put in
production. Your general impressions would be a good start.



Josef

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Josef,

I run freebsd 7.0 on a DL 380 G3 - A Pentium 4, 6G RAM, x86 with out  
issue. Old machines but they run fine.


David


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Re: Can't get soundcard to work

2008-10-09 Thread Aniruddha
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 01:16 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote:
 Aniruddha skrev:
  I've read the Setting Up the Sound Card part in the FreeBSD handbook
  unfortunately I can't get my Intel HDA card to work. Any ideas would be
  appreciated! Here's some relevant output:
  
 
 If you load the driver manually, can you play a tune then?
 For me snd_hda_load=YES does not load the driver. I have to do it with
 kldload snd_hda.
 

Thanks a lot, this did the trick! :) Here's what I did:

1) I ran 'kldunload snd_hda'. It gave an error: 'device busy'
2) I stopped the Gnome mixer applet
3) I ran 'kldunload snd_hda'
4) Finally I entered 'kldload snd_hda', et voila sound was working.

Is there a way to automate this, or do I have to do this after each
boot?



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Aniruddha




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Re: FreeBSD support for HP DL180/G5

2008-10-09 Thread Subhro
HP produces pretty good boxes and historically I have been able to get them
working without any troubles. However I would say DL180 is a pretty non
customizable box. The hardware works perfectly with FreeBSD 7.0. I didnt try
it with 6.3, so cant comment on that.

However I would say DL380 is a better off. The main advantage of DL3xx boxes
are there is a lot of room to play with add-on cards. Also not all the
latest and greatest processors are available with DL1xx family of servers.

Also make sure that you go for an external RAID controller like 3ware or
Areca. I prefer Areca more :-D. The HP RAID controller cant take the beating
I give to it.

Thanks
Subhro

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 1:55 AM, Josef Grosch [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


 Does anyone have experience running FreeBSD 6.x and 7.x on an HP DL180/G5?
 The company I work for is looking to get a number of these to be put in
 production. Your general impressions would be a good start.



 Josef

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Re: irq256 ????

2008-10-09 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 10:51:36PM +0200, Zahemszky Gábor wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I've just found in my machine's vmstat -i output:
 
 ===
 $ vmstat -i
 interrupt  total   rate
 irq1: atkbd0   15524  0
 irq6: fdc014  0
 irq12: psm0   279947 16
 irq15: ata141835  2
 irq16: uhci0 drm01407076 81
 irq17: atapci0257828 14
 irq19: fwohci0++  16  0
 irq21: uhci1 ahc0+ 41712  2
 irq22: pcm052848  3
 irq23: uhci2 ehci1 1  0
 cpu0: timer 33503897   1929
 
 
 irq256: em042054  2
 
 ===^
 
 cpu1: timer 33495040   1928
 Total   69137792   3981
 $ dmesg|fgrep em0
 em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 6.9.5 port 0x30c0-0x30df
 mem 0x9030-0x9031,0x90324000-0x90324fff irq 20 at device 25.0 on pci0 
 em0: Using MSI interrupt em0: [FILTER]
 em0: Ethernet address: 00:19:d1:25:78:0a
 $ uname -a
 FreeBSD XXX 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #0: Thu Oct  2 21:35:45 
 CEST 2008
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386 $ 
 
 
 What's that? (world and kernel are in sync)

It is an MSI-style interrupt [MSI=Message Signaled Interrupt] (available on
PCI-E devices and a few PCI/PCI-X devices.) They get allocated fake
irq-numbers starting at 256.

I.e. it is a feature, and a bug or indication of any problem.





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Re: irq256 ????

2008-10-09 Thread Josh Carroll
 I've just found in my machine's vmstat -i output:

 irq256: em042054  2

*snip*

 $ dmesg|fgrep em0
 em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 6.9.5 port 0x30c0-0x30df
 mem 0x9030-0x9031,0x90324000-0x90324fff irq 20 at device 25.0 on pci0
 em0: Using MSI interrupt em0: [FILTER]
 em0: Ethernet address: 00:19:d1:25:78:0a
 $ uname -a
 FreeBSD XXX 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #0: Thu Oct  2 21:35:45 
 CEST 2008
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386 $
 

 What's that? (world and kernel are in sync)

For what it's worth, I see the same thing on 7.1-PRERELEASE on a box
with an em0 (PCI card) and on-board PCI-E msk0:

% grep -E '(em0|msk0|mskc0)' /var/run/dmesg.boot
mskc0: Marvell Yukon 88E8056 Gigabit Ethernet port 0xc800-0xc8ff mem
0xfe9fc000-0xfe9f irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci2
msk0: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Yukon EC Ultra Id 0xb4 Rev 0x03 on mskc0
msk0: Ethernet address: 00:1d:60:bc:cc:39
miibus0: MII bus on msk0
mskc0: [FILTER]
em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 6.9.5 port 0xec00-0xec3f
mem 0xfebe-0xfebf,0xfebc-0xfebd irq 17 at device 1.0
on pci5
em0: [FILTER]
em0: Ethernet address: 00:0e:0c:6c:b9:16
em0: link state changed to UP

% vmstat -i
interrupt  total   rate
irq1: atkbd0   2  0
irq6: fdc011  0
irq17: em0 atapci1  53621626108
irq18: uhci2 ehci+ 1  0
irq19: fwohci0+   10  0
irq22: atapci2  29345269 59
irq23: uhci3 ehci1 1  0
cpu0: timer991289650   2000
irq256: mskc0   37714212 76
cpu1: timer991279642   2000
cpu2: timer991279641   2000
cpu3: timer991279641   2000
Total 4085809706   8243

And despite the weird interrupt, msk0 is operating just fine.

Regards,
Josh
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Re: Portsnap causes system to reboot

2008-10-09 Thread Walter Venable



I found this: $ cat /var/crash/
..minfreboundsçinfo.0ç
vmcore.0zinfo.vmcore.1zinfo.vmcore.2zinfo.vmcore.3zinfo.vmcore.4zinfo.vmcore.5zinfo.vmcore.6zinfo.7vmcore.7zÀ 


Any idea what that means?

Yes, I'm tired, and I did cat on a directory.  I found this in vmcore.7:

118Checking for core dump on /dev/ad4s1b...
118savecore: reboot after panic: ffs_clusteralloc: map mismatch
118Oct  9 11:16:26 freebsd savecore: reboot after panic: 
ffs_clusteralloc: map mismatch

118savecore: writing core to vmcore.6
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Re: Portsnap causes system to reboot

2008-10-09 Thread Walter Venable

Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 07:38:09PM +0300, Walter Venable wrote:
  

Whenever I run portsnap fetch update (edit: it also happens for a
simple portsnap fetch), my system reboots unexpectedly. Here's the
output:
# portsnap fetch update
Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found.
Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap2.FreeBSD.org... done.
Fetching snapshot metadata... done.
Updating from Wed Sep 24 00:04:04 EEST 2008 to Thu Oct  9 10:28:42 EEST 2008.
Fetching 3 metadata patches.. done.
Applying metadata patches... done.
Fetching 3 metadata files... done.
Fetching 602 
patches.102030405060708090100110120130140150160170180190200210220230240250260270280290300310320330340350360370380390400410420430440450460470480490500510520530540550560570580590600.
done.
Applying patches... Read from remote host X: Connection reset by peer
Connection to X closed.

And then I can log-in again a few minutes later, and the uptime has
gone down to a few seconds, so I know it rebooted. Any ideas why this
is happening?



Nope, not without kernel panic information.

Does this machine have serial console?  Are kernel panic dumps being put
into /var/crash?  Is the machine even configured for it (see dumpdev,
dumpdir, and savecore in rc.conf).
  

I found this: $ cat /var/crash/
..minfreboundsçinfo.0ç
vmcore.0zinfo.vmcore.1zinfo.vmcore.2zinfo.vmcore.3zinfo.vmcore.4zinfo.vmcore.5zinfo.vmcore.6zinfo.7vmcore.7zÀ

Any idea what that means?
  

Some background info:
$ uname -mrs
FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p5 i386



It would be useful if you could provide uname -a please, if you're
concerned about the hostname, just XXX it out.  Seeing the kernel build
date is useful.
  

$ uname -a
FreeBSD freebsd 7.0-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p5 #0: Thu Oct  9 
02:30:36 EEST 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ECORAZENI  i386
  

CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe
COPTFLAGS=-O2 -pipe
CPUTYPE=athlon-xp



Please don't do this.  Use ?= for this, not =.  If you think I'm
trolling, please read /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf.
  

It's recompiling with an empty make.conf now.
  

Since this started happening, I have still successfully updated ports
by csup'ing the ports tree. I can also still rebuild the world and
kernel without issue.  This is a remote box, and I don't use X with
it.



It almost sounds like a filesystem problem.  You might consider booting
into single-user and running fsck -y.

  


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Mailman + Apache + Cookies + FreeBSD

2008-10-09 Thread Grant Peel

Hi all,

I am not a fan of cross posting, but, I have to make a exception in this 
case as I can't seem to nail down whether its the software or OS causing me 
the problem.


Software: Apache 2.2, Python 2.5, Mailmain 2.1.11
OS: FreeBSD 6.2 Release #0

Apache and Python were built from ports, Mailman was built from source.

Problem: I can't stay logged into the Mailman web interface. Each time I 
submit a form, I am logged out. When I do log in, If I look on my local 
machine, I cant find a session cookie anywhere. It like is never set. And 
the Mailman documentation clearly states that none of the changes will be 
saved in that scenario.


Question: are there any people out there who can point me in the right 
direction? I assume that Python should be setting a cookie, but thats just a 
guess ... could it be OS related?


TIA,

-Grant 


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Re: Mailman + Apache + Cookies + FreeBSD

2008-10-09 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Oct 9, 2008, at 2:59 PM, Grant Peel wrote:
Problem: I can't stay logged into the Mailman web interface. Each  
time I submit a form, I am logged out. When I do log in, If I look  
on my local machine, I cant find a session cookie anywhere. It like  
is never set. And the Mailman documentation clearly states that none  
of the changes will be saved in that scenario.


Question: are there any people out there who can point me in the  
right direction? I assume that Python should be setting a cookie,  
but thats just a guess ... could it be OS related?


Try restarting your browser, and double-checking that your preferences  
allow the webserver to set cookies.


Regards,
--
-Chuck

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KDE speeech fails with kde4!

2008-10-09 Thread Gary Kline
Well guys, the temp bottom-line is that all-in-all, kde4 seems
better than kde3.   The xterm version, Konsole, it more
nicely laid out.  Konq, dunno; I'm *still* trying to get all my
kd3 xml bookmarks moved over.

The biggest fault is that the festival [speech] tool, kttd, fails
to init.  I *do* have kde4/bin before /usr/local/bin, but I'm
missing something that I don't fully undertand.  Do I need to
build/rebuild some of these binaries?  My portupgrade -avPpk
should have done that.

When I mouse some text then hit Tools-Speak, an err pop-up
reads: The D-Bus call say() failed.  Another error dialog pops
up titled: kttsd - The KDE Crash Handler  It says simply that a
fatal error occured and that the app kttsd crashed with a segv.

Is there a workaround?

tia,

gary



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Re: Mailman + Apache + Cookies + FreeBSD

2008-10-09 Thread Grant Peel

Thanks Chuck,

Tried all that several times.

My browser accepts cookies from many different (tested today and yesterday) 
sites.


-Grant

- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Grant Peel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Mailman + Apache + Cookies + FreeBSD



On Oct 9, 2008, at 2:59 PM, Grant Peel wrote:
Problem: I can't stay logged into the Mailman web interface. Each  time I 
submit a form, I am logged out. When I do log in, If I look  on my local 
machine, I cant find a session cookie anywhere. It like  is never set. 
And the Mailman documentation clearly states that none  of the changes 
will be saved in that scenario.


Question: are there any people out there who can point me in the  right 
direction? I assume that Python should be setting a cookie,  but thats 
just a guess ... could it be OS related?


Try restarting your browser, and double-checking that your preferences 
allow the webserver to set cookies.


Regards,
--
-Chuck

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Re: Mailman + Apache + Cookies + FreeBSD

2008-10-09 Thread Jerry
On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:59:52 -0400
Grant Peel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,

I am not a fan of cross posting, but, I have to make a exception in
this case as I can't seem to nail down whether its the software or OS
causing me the problem.

Software: Apache 2.2, Python 2.5, Mailmain 2.1.11
OS: FreeBSD 6.2 Release #0

Apache and Python were built from ports, Mailman was built from source.

Problem: I can't stay logged into the Mailman web interface. Each time
I submit a form, I am logged out. When I do log in, If I look on my
local machine, I cant find a session cookie anywhere. It like is never
set. And the Mailman documentation clearly states that none of the
changes will be saved in that scenario.

Question: are there any people out there who can point me in the right 
direction? I assume that Python should be setting a cookie, but thats
just a guess ... could it be OS related?

Just out of morbid curiosity, why did you build it from source? Mailman
is available in the ports.


-- 
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Re: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-09 Thread David Kelly

On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 05:11:13PM +0200, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:


But the discussion that followed made me realize that uptime is not
everything. I also love to see huge uptimes on my servers but if
anything this discussion brought it home to me that more than anything
I need to take care of security updates which I do.


Yes, uptime isn't everything. But when security notices are published
its important to read the notice and question whether it immediately
applies to your situation.

In my case a kernel flaw which allows an otherwise valid user to elevate
authority is not terribly important on my 2 year machine. Something
which allows an unauthorized user into the machine is important. OTOH
while my kernel has been running 2 years I have wiped ports completely
several times and reinstalled. IIRC it takes 3 or 4 days to build X11
and KDE last time I tired. No longer has X11 or KDE.

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Re: irq256 ????

2008-10-09 Thread mike
On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 23:49:54 +0200, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions
you wrote:
 
 What's that? (world and kernel are in sync)

It is an MSI-style interrupt [MSI=Message Signaled Interrupt] (available on
PCI-E devices and a few PCI/PCI-X devices.) They get allocated fake
irq-numbers starting at 256.

I.e. it is a feature, and a bug or indication of any problem.

And you can see what devices are MSI capable with
pciconf -lvc

e.g

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:5:0:0: class=0x02 card=0x348d8086 chip=0x108c8086
rev=0x03 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82573E Intel Corporation 82573E Gigabit Ethernet
Controller (Copper)'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet
cap 01[c8] = powerspec 2  supports D0 D3  current D0
cap 05[d0] = MSI supports 1 message, 64 bit enabled with 1 message
cap 10[e0] = PCI-Express 1 endpoint 

---Mike
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Re: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-09 Thread Eitan Adler

Lowell Gilbert wrote:
[snip]

And in theory it should be possible to change time_t to unsigned, and
get another two-thirds of a century out of it...

However this would break binary compatibility with anything compiled 
before the change.


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Re: Mailman + Apache + Cookies + FreeBSD

2008-10-09 Thread Grant Peel

Jerry,

I tried a few times to build it from source but since I am using 
Apache+Suexec, I was stuck on how to 'make' it and pass the parms needed to 
set the user and home directory, i.e. I needed the install directory to be 
set to /home/mailmain when the ports version insisted on setting it to 
/usr/local/mailman.


-Grant

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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: Mailman + Apache + Cookies + FreeBSD


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Re Apache + Mailman

2008-10-09 Thread Grant Peel

Cool Paul,

How about the rest of these:

'--prefix=/home/mailman'
'--with-username=mailman'
'--with-mail-gid=mailman'
'--with-cgi-gid=mailman'

And do you think it would make a difference to the cookies issue I am 
having?


-Grant 


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Re: Mailman + Apache + Cookies + FreeBSD

2008-10-09 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On October 9, 2008 7:58:49 PM -0500 Grant Peel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:




Jerry,

I tried a few times to build it from source but since I am using
Apache+Suexec, I was stuck on how to 'make' it and pass the parms needed
to
set the user and home directory, i.e. I needed the install directory to
be
set to /home/mailmain when the ports version insisted on setting it to
/usr/local/mailman.


cd /usr/ports/mail/mailman

make install PREFIX=/home clean

Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Senior Information Security Analyst
The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/


Re: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-09 Thread Chad Marshall
Thank you. Although I have always felt there are better systems for 
Administrative purposes, FreeBSD is a rock solid performer.  I'm a Mac 
user/Fan as well and since a lot of it's core was built on FreeBSD, goes 
to show how great it is. Thanks to all of you who were at least 
constructive and supportive and found some value in my story.


Best Regards,



Modulok wrote:

uptime 2 years!
  


Congratulations. Long uptimes should be shared, so as to encourage people to
consider FreeBSD for long-term stability. Thank you for posting.

Through this discussion the lazy administrator topic came up... In
regards to that, we
must keep in mind, 'stability,' pertains not only to run-time
stability but also to
temporal stability and general quality of the design and implementation of the
original code base. If an administrator has to make offline kernel
patches every
week to fix a glaring security hole, something was wrong with the
sofware's original
 design or implementation. Regardless, mistakes do occur, so keep your system up
 for as long as you can, but don't forget to watch the security
reports for things that
would directly affect that specific server. All things in moderation.

  

Sorry to bother you...You know, you could just leave well enough alone if you 
don't
care. There goes any future donations from me and my organization as this is
more than the first untactful email I recieved from this, I'll donate and use 
other
platforms. Please don't send any other emails
  


Don't let a few sour grapes get you down. I think it's cool.
-Modulok-
  

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Re: Multiple NICs routing question

2008-10-09 Thread Olivier Nicole
I've a server box with four NICs addressing different subnets:

NIC1:   one class c subnet of same class b network
NIC2:   another class c subnet of same class b network
NIC3:   local unrouted network
NIC4:   local unrouted network

In the current configuration I use a default gateway (and no routing 
daemon) in the subnet addressed by NIC1. Now of course, if a client in an 
arbitrary different class c subnet contacts the server using the ip 
address of NIC2, it gets a reply from NIC1.

You should give more details about your configuration.

If any client on the class B on NIC2 can contact your server, you must
configure the NIC for the class B.

The routing stack will take charge of excluding the class C on NIC1
from the class B on NIC2.

It's very bad that the client that connects via the NIC2 has a subnet
of class B and that the NIC2 is configured for class C only.

If you configure:

NIC1 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
NIC2 192.168.2.1 255.255.0.0

Client 192.168.127.23 255.255.0.0

it should work.

Olivier
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Re: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-09 Thread Modulok
 uptime 2 years!

Congratulations. Long uptimes should be shared, so as to encourage people to
consider FreeBSD for long-term stability. Thank you for posting.

Through this discussion the lazy administrator topic came up... In
regards to that, we
must keep in mind, 'stability,' pertains not only to run-time
stability but also to
temporal stability and general quality of the design and implementation of the
original code base. If an administrator has to make offline kernel
patches every
week to fix a glaring security hole, something was wrong with the
sofware's original
 design or implementation. Regardless, mistakes do occur, so keep your system up
 for as long as you can, but don't forget to watch the security
reports for things that
would directly affect that specific server. All things in moderation.

Sorry to bother you...You know, you could just leave well enough alone if you 
don't
care. There goes any future donations from me and my organization as this is
more than the first untactful email I recieved from this, I'll donate and use 
other
platforms. Please don't send any other emails

Don't let a few sour grapes get you down. I think it's cool.
-Modulok-
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Re: Re Apache + Mailman

2008-10-09 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On October 9, 2008 9:02:20 PM -0500 Grant Peel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:




Cool Paul,

How about the rest of these:

'--prefix=/home/mailman'
'--with-username=mailman'
'--with-mail-gid=mailman'
'--with-cgi-gid=mailman'



You can do it that way, but the port has an OPTION for Postfix that will 
set mail-gid to mailman and username is set to mailman by default.  So the 
only one you really need to set is cgi-gid, which is www by default.


I used to use /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf to define those values to keep 
from having to remember them on the commandline every time I portupgraded 
mailman, but that hasn't been necessary in a while.



And do you think it would make a difference to the cookies issue I am
having?



I'm not sure, but as a port maintainer, I can tell you that a great deal 
of effort goes into ensuring that the ports work as expected.  They are 
thoroughly tested, and the committers are very conscientious about getting 
errors fixed before the ports are committed.


I would deinstall what you have, install the port and then see if the 
issue still remains.  If it does, we can work on figuring out what the 
problem is at that point.


Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Senior Information Security Analyst
The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/


Re: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-09 Thread mdh



--- On Thu, 10/9/08, Eitan Adler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Eitan Adler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: uptime 2 years!
 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
 Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 8:41 PM
 Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 [snip]
  And in theory it should be possible to change time_t
 to unsigned, and
  get another two-thirds of a century out of it...
  
 However this would break binary compatibility with anything
 compiled 
 before the change.
 
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Re: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-09 Thread mdh
--- On Thu, 10/9/08, Eitan Adler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: Eitan Adler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: uptime 2 years!
 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
 Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 8:41 PM
 Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 [snip]
  And in theory it should be possible to change time_t
 to unsigned, and
  get another two-thirds of a century out of it...
  
 However this would break binary compatibility with anything
 compiled 
 before the change.

One thing to consider is that changing any signed value to an unsigned value 
then prevents functions which return that type from returning -1 (or otherwise 
0) to indicate an error condition.  Even if it doesn't affect anything at all 
in the base system, it could impact untold sums of software developed not in 
the base system. 
- mdh



  
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