X windows manager for French-Canadian keyboard

2009-04-28 Thread PJ
Would anyone know of a simple windows manager that supports
French-Canadian keyboard?
Using fr_CA keymapping -
fluxbox is very simple and very nice, but does not support the fr_CA stuff.
This is evident from error messages output when shutting it down. :-(
So, I have to find one that does.
Thanks for any help.

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Can't run GNUstep apps. X-Windows error - RenderBadPicture

2008-07-06 Thread Pedro Alves
Hello

I am trying to run GNUStep applications on my machine.
After installing all the applications and libraries and configuring the
environment I get the following error when for instance I start any
GNUstep app ie. TextEdit, Gorm ...


2008-07-06 20:35:18.082 TextEdit[911] X-Windows error - RenderBadPicture
(invalid Picture parameter)
  on display: :0.0
type: 0
   serial number: 3000
request code: 153

The app opens, but the menus doesn't show any content.
Any clues?

Thanks

Pedro

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Re: Any software that can do X windows screen capture (with mouse cursor)

2008-03-19 Thread Frank Shute
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 03:37:05PM -0700, Bill Campbell wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 18, 2008, Patrick Dung wrote:
 Hello
 
 As title, I have tried xwd, it can't capture mouse curosr.
 
 I'm not sure how a simple screen capture program would capture
 the mouse cursor since they all ask that you either click on a
 screen or select a rectangle from the entire screen.
 
 It seems to me that one would have to use some kind of video
 screen capture from which one could select frames showing the
 cursor as needed from working sessions.

If you use xv (graphics/xv), install it, launch it, right click on the
splash screen, there is a Grab button which when pressed can be
configured to grab a window after a set time but unfortunately it
doesn't grab the cursor.

I guess you could always Gimp it in by grabbing pngs/gifs of the
various cursors off the 'net.

xv is quite a useful program for graphics that is worth installing.
IMO.

Imagemagik for batch processing, Gimp for drawing things from scratch
and fancy effects, xv for quick point  drool transformations.

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Re: Any software that can do X windows screen capture (with mouse cursor)

2008-03-19 Thread Rebs Guarina
you could probably also use gvidcap/xvidcap and split the video to jpegs
using ffmpeg...(,)

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Frank Shute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 03:37:05PM -0700, Bill Campbell wrote:
 
  On Tue, Mar 18, 2008, Patrick Dung wrote:
  Hello
  
  As title, I have tried xwd, it can't capture mouse curosr.
 
  I'm not sure how a simple screen capture program would capture
  the mouse cursor since they all ask that you either click on a
  screen or select a rectangle from the entire screen.
 
  It seems to me that one would have to use some kind of video
  screen capture from which one could select frames showing the
  cursor as needed from working sessions.

 If you use xv (graphics/xv), install it, launch it, right click on the
 splash screen, there is a Grab button which when pressed can be
 configured to grab a window after a set time but unfortunately it
 doesn't grab the cursor.

 I guess you could always Gimp it in by grabbing pngs/gifs of the
 various cursors off the 'net.

 xv is quite a useful program for graphics that is worth installing.
 IMO.

 Imagemagik for batch processing, Gimp for drawing things from scratch
 and fancy effects, xv for quick point  drool transformations.

 --

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Re: Any software that can do X windows screen capture (with mouse cursor)

2008-03-19 Thread Mark Ovens

Nicholas Godson wrote:

So what you are wanting is a program like Snag-It for Windows, Ksnapshot
can do this I think. Haven't used it in quite a while though.



KSnapshot doesn't grab the cursor either.

Regards,

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Re: Any software that can do X windows screen capture (with mouse cursor)

2008-03-19 Thread Mario Lobo
On Tuesday 18 March 2008 13:54:34 Patrick Dung wrote:
 Hello

 As title, I have tried xwd, it can't capture mouse curosr.

 Regards
 Patrick


  
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ksanpshot. It does exactly what you need. requires kde though

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Re: Any software that can do X windows screen capture (with mouse cursor)

2008-03-19 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 06:11:08PM -0300, Mario Lobo wrote:
 On Tuesday 18 March 2008 13:54:34 Patrick Dung wrote:
  Hello
 
  As title, I have tried xwd, it can't capture mouse curosr.
 
 ksanpshot. It does exactly what you need. requires kde though

Anything that doesn't require a bunch of desktop-specific libraries?  I
just realized that what I usually use for screenshots (scrot) doesn't
capture the mouse cursor position.

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Any software that can do X windows screen capture (with mouse cursor)

2008-03-18 Thread Patrick Dung
Hello

As title, I have tried xwd, it can't capture mouse curosr.

Regards
Patrick


  

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Re: Any software that can do X windows screen capture (with mouse cursor)

2008-03-18 Thread Josh Carroll
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Patrick Dung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello

  As title, I have tried xwd, it can't capture mouse curosr.

The import program that's part of the ImageMagick port can do so:

import image.png

Then draw a box around whatever you want to screen shot.
Alternatively, it can do the whole root window:

import -window root ss.png

ImageMagick is in:

/usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick

Regards,
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Re: Any software that can do X windows screen capture (with mouse cursor)

2008-03-18 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008, Patrick Dung wrote:
Hello

As title, I have tried xwd, it can't capture mouse curosr.

I'm not sure how a simple screen capture program would capture
the mouse cursor since they all ask that you either click on a
screen or select a rectangle from the entire screen.

It seems to me that one would have to use some kind of video
screen capture from which one could select frames showing the
cursor as needed from working sessions.

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Re: Any software that can do X windows screen capture (with mouse cursor)

2008-03-18 Thread Nicholas Godson

Patrick Dung wrote:

Hello

As title, I have tried xwd, it can't capture mouse curosr.

Regards
Patrick


  

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So what you are wanting is a program like Snag-It for Windows, Ksnapshot
can do this I think. Haven't used it in quite a while though.

http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdegraphics/ksnapshot/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KSnapshot

Cheers,

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Re: X windows configuration problem

2006-11-13 Thread Lowell Gilbert
arnuld [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 hai all,

 i am not able to configure my X-Windows system. i will be brief:

 1.)  ASUS K8V-MX motherboard running AMD64 Athlon
 2.) VIA K8M800, VIA 8T237R chipsets.

 i downloaded FreeBSD 6.1 last night  have verified the md5sum.
 Xorg -configure does not work. GNOME is installed. then i tried
 xorgconfig -textmode which worked  after checking my mouse,
 keyboard etc it shows me the video card list which contains only 2
 drivers ati  vmware  nothing else.  so i tried both drivers,
 ati  vmware  edited ttyv8 line in /etc/ttys to on from
 off. but all i get is Black Terminal.

 does anybody has any idea on how i can configure X?

You don't necessarily need to with X.org: 
on many systems it can run just fine without any config file.

 (i used to run Fedora Core 4 before that which installs vesa driver
 for my VGA  it ran fine in 1024x768 mode. i have used FreeBSD 5.4
 once which did show me a long list of drivers for my video card
 including vesa  i ran my box with that  it was fine but with this
 new FreeBSD i dont have any choice except 2 drivers i mentioned. )

Do you have the xorg-server port installed?
[Look at the pkg_info(1) output.]
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X windows configuration problem

2006-11-12 Thread arnuld

hai all,

i am not able to configure my X-Windows system. i will be brief:

1.)  ASUS K8V-MX motherboard running AMD64 Athlon
2.) VIA K8M800, VIA 8T237R chipsets.

i downloaded FreeBSD 6.1 last night  have verified the md5sum.
Xorg -configure does not work. GNOME is installed. then i tried
xorgconfig -textmode which worked  after checking my mouse,
keyboard etc it shows me the video card list which contains only 2
drivers ati  vmware  nothing else.  so i tried both drivers,
ati  vmware  edited ttyv8 line in /etc/ttys to on from
off. but all i get is Black Terminal.

does anybody has any idea on how i can configure X?

(i used to run Fedora Core 4 before that which installs vesa driver
for my VGA  it ran fine in 1024x768 mode. i have used FreeBSD 5.4
once which did show me a long list of drivers for my video card
including vesa  i ran my box with that  it was fine but with this
new FreeBSD i dont have any choice except 2 drivers i mentioned. )

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Re: X windows configuration problem

2006-11-12 Thread Tsu-Fan Cheng

do u have an xorg.conf to show us??

tfc

On 11/12/06, arnuld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


hai all,

i am not able to configure my X-Windows system. i will be brief:

1.)  ASUS K8V-MX motherboard running AMD64 Athlon
2.) VIA K8M800, VIA 8T237R chipsets.

i downloaded FreeBSD 6.1 last night  have verified the md5sum.
Xorg -configure does not work. GNOME is installed. then i tried
xorgconfig -textmode which worked  after checking my mouse,
keyboard etc it shows me the video card list which contains only 2
drivers ati  vmware  nothing else.  so i tried both drivers,
ati  vmware  edited ttyv8 line in /etc/ttys to on from
off. but all i get is Black Terminal.

does anybody has any idea on how i can configure X?

(i used to run Fedora Core 4 before that which installs vesa driver
for my VGA  it ran fine in 1024x768 mode. i have used FreeBSD 5.4
once which did show me a long list of drivers for my video card
including vesa  i ran my box with that  it was fine but with this
new FreeBSD i dont have any choice except 2 drivers i mentioned. )

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X windows fails after upgrade

2006-11-02 Thread andy
I recently upgraded to the latest 6-stable, now X won't start.  I get the 
following error:


(EE) Failed to load module fbdev (module does not exist, 0)
No core pointer

Any suggestions how to fix this?

TIA

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Deinstalling X-windows

2006-10-16 Thread Chris
I could swear this was asked but I don't recall the answer and I've  
googled bsd till blue.
Since starting portupgrade, I've noticed the majority of time is  
spent bringing various X
ports up to date. I was thinking of make deinstall all of X as we use  
only command line.
To explain, we have always installed FreeBSD, pulled in a couple of  
ports then obtained
the major service components we used from their actual provider (e.g.  
grabbed apache
from apache.org). I'm shifting all our machines to use ports and keep  
them updated but
X is somewhat in the way. (BTW, I'm not putting down X, would love to  
use it, it's just
unlikely to do gui admin work via satellite which is how I have to  
reach our servers).


Below is the list of components I didn't install which I'm guessing I  
don't need on a
server (or at least have never had on a server prior to upgrading our  
machines to 6.x).

The old installation always asked if I wanted X and I'd skip it.

Can I deep six them, or, because they are now in the base, should I  
keep them for the
integrity of the installation? I apologize that I can't test this  
myself, I don't have a non-

production machine to play with just now.

xorg-clients-6.9.0_3 X client programs and related files from X.Org
xorg-documents-6.9.0 Documentation of X11 protocol and libraries from  
X.Org

xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.9.0_1 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.9.0_1 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-cyrillic-6.9.0_1 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-encodings-6.9.0_1 X.Org font encoding files
xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-6.9.0_1 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-truetype-6.9.0 X.Org TrueType fonts
xorg-fonts-type1-6.9.0 X.Org Type1 fonts
xorg-fontserver-6.9.0_1 X font server from X.Org
xorg-libraries-6.9.0 X11 libraries and headers from X.Org
xorg-manpages-6.9.0 X.Org library manual pages
xorg-nestserver-6.9.0_1 Nesting X server from X.Org
xorg-printserver-6.9.0_2 X Print server from X.Org
xorg-vfbserver-6.9.0_2 X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org
xterm-220   Terminal emulator for the X Window System


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Re: Deinstalling X-windows

2006-10-16 Thread Erik Norgaard

Chris wrote:

Can I deep six them, or, because they are now in the base, should I keep 
them for the
integrity of the installation? I apologize that I can't test this 
myself, I don't have a non-

production machine to play with just now.

xorg-clients-6.9.0_3 X client programs and related files from X.Org
xorg-documents-6.9.0 Documentation of X11 protocol and libraries from X.Org
xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.9.0_1 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.9.0_1 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-cyrillic-6.9.0_1 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-encodings-6.9.0_1 X.Org font encoding files
xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-6.9.0_1 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-truetype-6.9.0 X.Org TrueType fonts
xorg-fonts-type1-6.9.0 X.Org Type1 fonts
xorg-fontserver-6.9.0_1 X font server from X.Org
xorg-libraries-6.9.0 X11 libraries and headers from X.Org
xorg-manpages-6.9.0 X.Org library manual pages
xorg-nestserver-6.9.0_1 Nesting X server from X.Org
xorg-printserver-6.9.0_2 X Print server from X.Org
xorg-vfbserver-6.9.0_2 X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org
xterm-220   Terminal emulator for the X Window System


I assume that you do all the administration using ssh. You can tunnel X 
trough ssh if you need to, but if you never use X for managing the 
servers just deinstall.


Use

  # pkg_delete -x xorg-

to deinstall, by default it will not deinstall if there are dependencies.

There is one package you may need even if you don't run any X apps: 
xorg-libraries. I need it to do image manipulation on the command line 
with ImageMagick.


I think you can set WITHOUT_X11=YES in your make.conf so apps won't be 
built with X in the future.


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Deinstalling X-windows

2006-10-16 Thread Robert Huff

Chris writes:

  Can I deep six them, or, because they are now in the base, should
  I keep them for the integrity of the installation? I apologize
  that I can't test this myself, I don't have a non- production
  machine to play with just now.

I believe there are ports that require X (or at least a subset
of it) to build but not to run.  Others will do so _unless_ you set
the appropriate flag using make config or by using make variables.
(No, I don't have a list or know how to generate one.)


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Re: Deinstalling X-windows

2006-10-16 Thread Chris


On Oct 16, 2006, at 6:18 AM, Erik Norgaard wrote:


Chris wrote:

Can I deep six them, or, because they are now in the base, should  
I keep them for the
integrity of the installation? I apologize that I can't test this  
myself, I don't have a non-

production machine to play with just now.
xorg-clients-6.9.0_3 X client programs and related files from X.Org

...
I assume that you do all the administration using ssh. You can  
tunnel X trough ssh if you need to, but if you never use X for  
managing the servers just deinstall.


Use

  # pkg_delete -x xorg-

to deinstall, by default it will not deinstall if there are  
dependencies.


There is one package you may need even if you don't run any X apps:  
xorg-libraries. I need it to do image manipulation on the command  
line with ImageMagick.


I think you can set WITHOUT_X11=YES in your make.conf so apps won't  
be built with X in the future.


First, sorry I keep forgetting to change my from address to the one  
that identifies me more. I just did on this reply.


I really appreciate the responses, they answer what I asked but also  
another question I didn't ask, but was worrying about. We DO use  
ImageMagick and for the first time, I've installed it from ports. I  
didn't find any reference to WITHOUT_X11 in the man make.conf but  
immediately found it in the make for ImageMagick so you hit on the  
head. I'll research more for the other ports we are using and see if  
there similar flags.


On the ssh comment, OT but Yes, I've tried tunnelling X and it worked  
great on my test LAN, but the satellite connection (Hughes best  
service) adds latency that thwarts any slick admin access I've tried.  
So in laziness, I've not strayed too far from simple command line  
access. My working location carries the concept of working remotely  
to absurdity. No DSL or Cable here.


Thanks again,
Chris
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Re: Deinstalling X-windows

2006-10-16 Thread Erik Norgaard

Chris wrote:

I really appreciate the responses, they answer what I asked but also 
another question I didn't ask, but was worrying about. We DO use 
ImageMagick and for the first time, I've installed it from ports. I 
didn't find any reference to WITHOUT_X11 in the man make.conf but 
immediately found it in the make for ImageMagick so you hit on the head. 
I'll research more for the other ports we are using and see if there 
similar flags.


AFAIK The options documented for make.conf concerns building the base 
system. But you can add options for ports as well: Adding


  WITHOUT_X11=YES

will cause all ports that support the option to be built without X11 so 
you don't have to specify it every time.


Whether you install ImageMagick from ports or not, you need the X11 
libraries. The pkg_delete or any other of the package/ports tools won't 
warn you about anything breaking unless it is installed from ports.


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Blank screen after existing X windows

2006-07-17 Thread Martin Miedema
I just installed FreeBSD 6.1 on my Thinkpad T23 (one of my first times 
using FreeBSD) and after wrestling my self through configuring X I'm 
having the following problem:


X starts correctly and opens KDE but when I log it out it just shows a 
blank screen. I can blindly type shutdown -p now or startx (which starts 
X again normally.


The only way for me to shutdown X without facing the blank screen 
appears to be by using CTRL-F1 and pressing CTRL+C


Please let me know if you need any configuration files or logs etc.

Thanks in advance,

Martin Miedema.
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Re: Blank screen after existing X windows

2006-07-17 Thread Jim Stapleton

On 7/17/06, Martin Miedema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I just installed FreeBSD 6.1 on my Thinkpad T23 (one of my first times
using FreeBSD) and after wrestling my self through configuring X I'm
having the following problem:

X starts correctly and opens KDE but when I log it out it just shows a
blank screen. I can blindly type shutdown -p now or startx (which starts
X again normally.

The only way for me to shutdown X without facing the blank screen
appears to be by using CTRL-F1 and pressing CTRL+C

Please let me know if you need any configuration files or logs etc.

Thanks in advance,

Martin Miedema.
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You might want to post the end of your xorg log file as of the error
(go to a non-x console after logging out of X but before restarting
it, grab the last full entry)

I had this issue before, it was caused by not having X setup right (I
think I loaded a module it didn't like or had the driver settings
slightly off), either way, making the config file slightly more
conservative with the driver fixed it. I can't remember what I did,
but the xorg.conf file made the error pretty obvious.

-Jim Stapleton
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Re: Blank screen after existing X windows

2006-07-17 Thread Martin Miedema

Jim Stapleton wrote:

On 7/17/06, Martin Miedema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I just installed FreeBSD 6.1 on my Thinkpad T23 (one of my first times
using FreeBSD) and after wrestling my self through configuring X I'm
having the following problem:

X starts correctly and opens KDE but when I log it out it just shows a
blank screen. I can blindly type shutdown -p now or startx (which starts
X again normally.

The only way for me to shutdown X without facing the blank screen
appears to be by using CTRL-F1 and pressing CTRL+C

Please let me know if you need any configuration files or logs etc.

Thanks in advance,

Martin Miedema.
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You might want to post the end of your xorg log file as of the error
(go to a non-x console after logging out of X but before restarting
it, grab the last full entry)

I had this issue before, it was caused by not having X setup right (I
think I loaded a module it didn't like or had the driver settings
slightly off), either way, making the config file slightly more
conservative with the driver fixed it. I can't remember what I did,
but the xorg.conf file made the error pretty obvious.

-Jim Stapleton
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I have uploaded my Xorg.0.log / Xorg.0.log.old and xorg.conf in a zip 
file which is available at: http://cyberswordshideout.tk/bsdstuff.zip


Thanks,

Martin.
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Re: Blank screen after existing X windows

2006-07-17 Thread Jim Stapleton

On 7/17/06, Martin Miedema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jim Stapleton wrote:
 On 7/17/06, Martin Miedema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just installed FreeBSD 6.1 on my Thinkpad T23 (one of my first times
 using FreeBSD) and after wrestling my self through configuring X I'm
 having the following problem:

 X starts correctly and opens KDE but when I log it out it just shows a
 blank screen. I can blindly type shutdown -p now or startx (which starts
 X again normally.

 The only way for me to shutdown X without facing the blank screen
 appears to be by using CTRL-F1 and pressing CTRL+C

 Please let me know if you need any configuration files or logs etc.

 Thanks in advance,

 Martin Miedema.
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 You might want to post the end of your xorg log file as of the error
 (go to a non-x console after logging out of X but before restarting
 it, grab the last full entry)

 I had this issue before, it was caused by not having X setup right (I
 think I loaded a module it didn't like or had the driver settings
 slightly off), either way, making the config file slightly more
 conservative with the driver fixed it. I can't remember what I did,
 but the xorg.conf file made the error pretty obvious.

 -Jim Stapleton
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I have uploaded my Xorg.0.log / Xorg.0.log.old and xorg.conf in a zip
file which is available at: http://cyberswordshideout.tk/bsdstuff.zip

Thanks,

Martin.



Please put the file in the mail to the newsgroup, or if you really
don't want to put it here, host the plain-text, and not in an archive.

Thanks,
-Jim
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Re: cant run x-windows on fresh 6.1 install

2006-05-20 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Peter Michaux wrote:

Ok, it is time for me to sound really stupid.



Not stupid, just, um, new?  Everyone was Once
Upon A Time ...


Actually, it seems logical there *should* be one.
What does dmesg(8) say in regard to this?  Can
you run moused(8)?  What hardware is this, anyway?


$ moused(8)
Badly placed ()'s


Yup.  The (8) refers to the manual section,
see the manpage for man(1) for that.  (Oh,
and you'd do it like this:

$ man man


$ moused
moused: no port name specified


Yeah.  Running moused needs to have
some arguments.  What's the output
of ls /dev/sysmouse ?


$ dmesg(8)
Badly placed ()'s


ditto above.


$ dmseg
dmseg: Command not found.


Look carefully.  That's dmesg, not
dmseg ...

dmesg should give you a boot message, which
should show us something about your mouse.

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cant run x-windows on fresh 6.1 install

2006-05-19 Thread Peter Michaux

Hi,

I just installed FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE for i386 [1]. I selected the
X-User install and (I think) all the defaults along the way. The only
port I added was Ruby. I can log in as root or as peter and make
and run a little ruby script.

When I type startx I see an error which i have retyped below

getconfig.pl: Evaluated 24 rules with 0 errors
getconfig.pl: Weight of result is 500
New driver is ati
(==) Using default built-in configuration (53 lines)
(EE) Failed to load module fbdev (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) default pointer: Cannot find which device to use
(EE) xf860OpenSerial: No Device Specified
(EE) PreInit failed for input device default pointer
No core Pointer

Fatal server error:
failed to initalize core devices

and them more stuff


Where did I go wrong with my install choices?

When Xwindows starts will it boot into Gnome or KDE? If not, what?

Thanks,
Peter



[1] Dell 450 MHz Pentium. I dedicated the entire hard drive to FreeBSD.
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Re: cant run x-windows on fresh 6.1 install

2006-05-19 Thread doug
No window manager was installed. Xorg installs xterm and an almost null window 
manager twm. You need to follow the instructions for configuring Xorg, chapter 
5 in the handbook. Then if you add an .xsession file:


#!/bin/sh
/usr/X11R6/bin/twm

you can use that to install the window manager of your choice. the following 
will install the kde package:


setenv PACKAGEROOT ftp://ftp10.FreeBSD.org(make this your mirror of 
choice)
pkg_add -r kde

Then change .xsession accordingly


On Fri, 19 May 2006, Peter Michaux wrote:


Hi,

I just installed FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE for i386 [1]. I selected the
X-User install and (I think) all the defaults along the way. The only
port I added was Ruby. I can log in as root or as peter and make
and run a little ruby script.

When I type startx I see an error which i have retyped below

getconfig.pl: Evaluated 24 rules with 0 errors
getconfig.pl: Weight of result is 500
New driver is ati
(==) Using default built-in configuration (53 lines)
(EE) Failed to load module fbdev (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) default pointer: Cannot find which device to use
(EE) xf860OpenSerial: No Device Specified
(EE) PreInit failed for input device default pointer
No core Pointer

Fatal server error:
failed to initalize core devices

and them more stuff


Where did I go wrong with my install choices?

When Xwindows starts will it boot into Gnome or KDE? If not, what?

Thanks,
Peter



[1] Dell 450 MHz Pentium. I dedicated the entire hard drive to FreeBSD.
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Re: cant run x-windows on fresh 6.1 install

2006-05-19 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Peter Michaux wrote:

Hi,

I just installed FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE for i386 [1]. I selected the
X-User install and (I think) all the defaults along the way. The only
port I added was Ruby. I can log in as root or as peter and make
and run a little ruby script.

When I type startx I see an error which i have retyped below

getconfig.pl: Evaluated 24 rules with 0 errors
getconfig.pl: Weight of result is 500
New driver is ati
(==) Using default built-in configuration (53 lines)
(EE) Failed to load module fbdev (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) default pointer: Cannot find which device to use
(EE) xf860OpenSerial: No Device Specified
(EE) PreInit failed for input device default pointer
No core Pointer

Fatal server error:
failed to initalize core devices


Install a mouse.  Core pointer not found error means,
where's my mouse?

Notwithstanding that, you might remove the mouse section
from your xorg configuration file and get by, although
in some X environments there's little point in running
X unless you have a mouse.

Ah, wait a minute.  You have no configuration file;
using built-in.  So, get a mouse ;-)

Actually, it seems logical there *should* be one.
What does dmesg(8) say in regard to this?  Can
you run moused(8)?  What hardware is this, anyway?




and them more stuff

Where did I go wrong with my install choices?



Don't know that you did, unless you forgot to
plug in the mouse ;-)


When Xwindows starts will it boot into Gnome or KDE? If not, what?


Have you installed Gnome or KDE?  If not, you'll get twm.

Kevin Kinsey

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Re: Remote 'viewing / control' of X Windows

2006-05-07 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Sun, 2006-05-07 at 01:34 -0400, Parv wrote:
 in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 wrote Marc G. Fournier thusly...
 
  I'm dealing with a situation where I'm migrating ppl over to using
  X vs M$ Windows ... I'd like to be able to help them out remotely,
  similar to how I can with VNC for Windows ...
  
  Is there something similar for Unix that would allow me to
  'piggyback' in such a way that they're X desktop is an xterm on my
  machine, so that I can move their mouse around, show them the
  steps to do something, etc?
 
 I don't think one could use plain VNC (realvnc, tightvnc  such) to
 move mouse on already running X session.  Please let me know if that
 is possible.

Coming from a Linux background, There _is_ such support. There's one
called 'vino' 
*  net-misc/vino
  Latest version available: 2.12.0
  Latest version installed: 2.12.0
  Size of downloaded files: 1,654 kB
  Homepage:http://www.gnome.org/
  Description: An integrated VNC server for GNOME
  License: GPL-2

which essentially does that. it connects to a running session.

If not mistaken, there is a VNC server edition that does that too



 
 There, however, is x11vnc port (net/x11vnc) which can connects to
 already running X instance which should fulfill Marc's requirement.
 See also x2vnc (x11-servers/x2vnc) port.
 
 
   - Parv
 

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Re: Remote 'viewing / control' of X Windows

2006-05-07 Thread Parv
in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
wrote Ow Mun Heng thusly...

 On Sun, 2006-05-07 at 01:34 -0400, Parv wrote:
  in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  wrote Marc G. Fournier thusly...
  
   I'm dealing with a situation where I'm migrating ppl over to using
   X vs M$ Windows ... I'd like to be able to help them out remotely,
   similar to how I can with VNC for Windows ...
   
   Is there something similar for Unix that would allow me to
   'piggyback' in such a way that they're X desktop is an xterm on my
   machine, so that I can move their mouse around, show them the
   steps to do something, etc?
  
  I don't think one could use plain VNC (realvnc, tightvnc  such) to
  move mouse on already running X session.  Please let me know if that
  is possible.
 
 Coming from a Linux background, There _is_ such support. There's one
 called 'vino' 
 *  net-misc/vino
   Latest version available: 2.12.0
   Latest version installed: 2.12.0
   Size of downloaded files: 1,654 kB
   Homepage:http://www.gnome.org/
   Description: An integrated VNC server for GNOME
   License: GPL-2
 
 which essentially does that. it connects to a running session.

Thanks for the additional data.

Looking at the dependency list, vino seems to be appropriate only
for those who have large part of gnome already installed.


 If not mistaken, there is a VNC server edition that does that too
...
  There, however, is x11vnc port (net/x11vnc) which can connects to
  already running X instance which should fulfill Marc's requirement.
  See also x2vnc (x11-servers/x2vnc) port.


  - Parv

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Re: Remote 'viewing / control' of X Windows

2006-05-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier


On Sun, 7 May 2006, Parv wrote:


in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
wrote Ow Mun Heng thusly...


On Sun, 2006-05-07 at 01:34 -0400, Parv wrote:

in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
wrote Marc G. Fournier thusly...


I'm dealing with a situation where I'm migrating ppl over to using
X vs M$ Windows ... I'd like to be able to help them out remotely,
similar to how I can with VNC for Windows ...

Is there something similar for Unix that would allow me to
'piggyback' in such a way that they're X desktop is an xterm on my
machine, so that I can move their mouse around, show them the
steps to do something, etc?


I don't think one could use plain VNC (realvnc, tightvnc  such) to
move mouse on already running X session.  Please let me know if that
is possible.


Coming from a Linux background, There _is_ such support. There's one
called 'vino'
*  net-misc/vino
  Latest version available: 2.12.0
  Latest version installed: 2.12.0
  Size of downloaded files: 1,654 kB
  Homepage:http://www.gnome.org/
  Description: An integrated VNC server for GNOME
  License: GPL-2

which essentially does that. it connects to a running session.


Thanks for the additional data.

Looking at the dependency list, vino seems to be appropriate only
for those who have large part of gnome already installed.


That was what I found also, and I'm using KDE on our machines ... x11vnc 
seems to work well though, just installed it and can easily work with the 
remote machine ...


Thx ...


Marc G. Fournier   Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Yahoo!: yscrappy  ICQ: 7615664
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Remote 'viewing / control' of X Windows

2006-05-06 Thread Marc G. Fournier


I'm dealing with a situation where I'm migrating ppl over to using X vs M$ 
Windows ... I'd like to be able to help them out remotely, similar to how 
I can with VNC for Windows ...


Is there something similar for Unix that would allow me to 'piggyback' in 
such a way that they're X desktop is an xterm on my machine, so that I can 
move their mouse around, show them the steps to do something, etc?


Thanks ...


Marc G. Fournier   Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Yahoo!: yscrappy  ICQ: 7615664
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Re: Remote 'viewing / control' of X Windows

2006-05-06 Thread Subhro

Marc G. Fournier sat at his 'puter and typed on 5/7/2006 7:02:


I'm dealing with a situation where I'm migrating ppl over to using X 
vs M$ Windows ... I'd like to be able to help them out remotely, 
similar to how I can with VNC for Windows ...


Is there something similar for Unix that would allow me to 'piggyback' 
in such a way that they're X desktop is an xterm on my machine, so 
that I can move their mouse around, show them the steps to do 
something, etc?


VNC had also been ported to FreeBSD. You can try something like tightvnc.

Thanks and Best Regards
Subhro
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Re: Remote 'viewing / control' of X Windows

2006-05-06 Thread Parv
in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
wrote Marc G. Fournier thusly...

 I'm dealing with a situation where I'm migrating ppl over to using
 X vs M$ Windows ... I'd like to be able to help them out remotely,
 similar to how I can with VNC for Windows ...
 
 Is there something similar for Unix that would allow me to
 'piggyback' in such a way that they're X desktop is an xterm on my
 machine, so that I can move their mouse around, show them the
 steps to do something, etc?

I don't think one could use plain VNC (realvnc, tightvnc  such) to
move mouse on already running X session.  Please let me know if that
is possible.

There, however, is x11vnc port (net/x11vnc) which can connects to
already running X instance which should fulfill Marc's requirement.
See also x2vnc (x11-servers/x2vnc) port.


  - Parv

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How to install x-windows in freeBSD

2006-01-18 Thread Anirban Adhikary
Hi guys ,This is Anirban here.I have just installed freeBSD 6.0 and i have
installed it properly.But i am not able to see any graphics on it.So my
question is that how i can install x-window system in freeBSD environment.
Hope i will receive my reply soon.
with regards
Anirban.
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Re: How to install x-windows in freeBSD

2006-01-18 Thread Benjamin Thelen

Hi Anirban,

a very good place to start is the handbook, chapter 5. Most important is 
to know the monitor specifications, video adapter chipset, the video 
adapter memory and to create a initial xorg.conf with


Xorg -configure

If you've done this already and still hung, you need to supply detailed 
information to the list.



Best,
Ben



Anirban Adhikary schrieb:

Hi guys ,This is Anirban here.I have just installed freeBSD 6.0 and i have
installed it properly.But i am not able to see any graphics on it.So my
question is that how i can install x-window system in freeBSD environment.
Hope i will receive my reply soon.
with regards
Anirban.
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Re: How to install x-windows in freeBSD

2006-01-18 Thread ivan . roth
Hi Anirban,

This is not your first post here but I can't understand how you can ask for such
information.

However, I am not the police and I found something, very miraculous for you.

But please when you need informations, have a look to the handbook and on
Google. We won't work for you.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x11.html

Of course if this chapter and Google let some issues unsolved, feel free to ask
questions here (that is why it is called freebsd-questions, isn't it?)

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Re: How to install x-windows in freeBSD

2006-01-18 Thread Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT
hi Anirban,
first update your ports tree using cvsup.
[cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/ports-supfile this will do it. but ports-supfile might
be somewhere else if u didnt edit then move it under /etc. for this check
documentation.]
then cd to /usr/ports/x11/xorg
# make install clean.
soon u done with this step, move to the last one. select kde or gnome to
install. [up to you which to prefer.]
kde or gnome alsa avaliable in ports. cd to the directory u prefer. then
make install clean again.
edit your xorgconf [accourding to your pc configuration] and xinitrc [exec
startkde].
reboot, login, startx ;)
hope this will help.
regards,
bye ;)
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Re: jdk15 without having to install X Windows?

2005-10-26 Thread Micah

Nick Triantos wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to install JDK15 (from ports: java/jdk15) on a server that 
does not have X Windows installed.  It appears from the Makefile that 
Java is dependent upon OpenMotif, which in turn is dependent upon a 
bunch of X client libs.


Does anyone have experience with installing Java without any X windows 
support?  I'd like the keep the number of installed packages on this 
server to a bare minimum.


thanks,
-Nick



My guess?  You probably can't install JDK without X because of Java's 
GUI libraries (swing/awt).


Micah
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jdk15 without having to install X Windows?

2005-10-24 Thread Nick Triantos

Hi,

I'm trying to install JDK15 (from ports: java/jdk15) on a server that 
does not have X Windows installed.  It appears from the Makefile that 
Java is dependent upon OpenMotif, which in turn is dependent upon a 
bunch of X client libs.


Does anyone have experience with installing Java without any X windows 
support?  I'd like the keep the number of installed packages on this 
server to a bare minimum.


thanks,
-Nick

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startX slow to execute - X Windows system takes 10 minutes to load

2005-10-21 Thread Teo De Las Heras
When I run startX it takes about 10 minutes for Xorg to begin. Changes have
been made to the system, but I don't know how to identify who the culprit
might be. Here's what I did before this started happening
2. Installed firefox using pkg_add
3. Unable to see firefox in KDE so reinstalled firefox using
/usr/ports/www/firefox/ - make install clean
4. Found out about the KDE menu update tool and ran that
5. Updated my ports tree using cvsup and portsdb -Uu
6. Problem starting hapenning after the subsequent reboot.
 I have deinstalled and installed Firefox and the problem still occurs. I
don't see any errors in Xorg.0.log or Xorg.8.log. My xorg.conf.new file
works well, and has been working for a few months now (no changes to it
since I got OpenGL working).
 I don't know where else to look.
 Teo
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Re: X Windows on Toshiba Tecra M1

2005-10-05 Thread Vulpes Velox
I would make sure that it is set to that native resolution of the LCD.

On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 07:37:34 -0700
jmulkerin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just installed Freebsd 5.4 on a Toshiba Tecra M1.   Anyone know the 
 right parameters for the Video?All I get is lines and then
 fades to mostly dark gray.   I've searched the FAQ and the internet
 and haven't found anything that gives me a clue yet.
 
 Thanks
 
 John
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X Windows on Toshiba Tecra M1

2005-10-04 Thread jmulkerin
Just installed Freebsd 5.4 on a Toshiba Tecra M1.   Anyone know the 
right parameters for the Video?All I get is lines and then fades to 
mostly dark gray.   I've searched the FAQ and the internet and haven't 
found anything that gives me a clue yet.


Thanks

John
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Re: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)

2005-07-10 Thread Andreas Kohn
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 10:40 +0100, Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
 Andreas Kohn wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 say, do you see any messages like 
 
 NVRM: Xid: 13,  02005600 0056 0c28 006500ac 0080
 
 (Numbers may vary, I think) 
 in your kernel messages after such a lock-up happened?
   
 
 AFAIK this is not a FreeBSD-specific problem.  I think this URL is right 
 but the site isn't responding at the moment.  I don't know if there is a 
 solution there or not.  There were some interesting comments about 
 running glxgears before running a game making things better, if that's 
 the kind of thing you are doing (gaming, that is), but I never got to 
 the end of the thread.  Most people reported the problem on much newer 
 cards but the Xid is the classic symptom.
 
 http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=49117
 
 You could always try the nv drivers.  My Ge2 worked fine on them for 
 years, while my  6600 suffered corruption at least once a day.
 

Hi,

I'm using the nvidia-provided drivers because of the speed increase they
give. nv works fine, yes...but too slow :)

I spent some time reading through the posts, and yes, there were some
very interesting things said there. Thanks for the pointer.
For some reason, my system now works with 7667. No hangs, no NVRM
messages. 
The only things I changed:
- a lot of reinstalling 6113/7667, perhaps somewhere there was a
  corrupted file that now got mysteriously replaced by a correct
  version?
- playing with modelines. I changed the resolution from 1920x1200 to
  1600x1000, to gain a higher refresh rate. Before, I also saw
NVRM: Xid: 17, Head=0 X=1920 Y=1200 Refresh=75
  which I regarded as simple information items from nvidia-driver. I
  don't get these messages with 1600x1000 anymore.

So whatever it was, it looks gone. Unfortunately, I can't give any tips
on what to try :/

Thanks!

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Re: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)

2005-07-10 Thread Ian Moore
On Sunday 10 July 2005 20:34, Andreas Kohn wrote:
 I'm using the nvidia-provided drivers because of the speed increase they
 give. nv works fine, yes...but too slow :)

 I spent some time reading through the posts, and yes, there were some
 very interesting things said there. Thanks for the pointer.
 For some reason, my system now works with 7667. No hangs, no NVRM
 messages.
 The only things I changed:
 - a lot of reinstalling 6113/7667, perhaps somewhere there was a
   corrupted file that now got mysteriously replaced by a correct
   version?
 - playing with modelines. I changed the resolution from 1920x1200 to
   1600x1000, to gain a higher refresh rate. Before, I also saw
 NVRM: Xid: 17, Head=0 X=1920 Y=1200 Refresh=75
   which I regarded as simple information items from nvidia-driver. I
   don't get these messages with 1600x1000 anymore.

 So whatever it was, it looks gone. Unfortunately, I can't give any tips
 on what to try :/


I don't know if this is relevant to your problem, but whenever I update X, I 
have to portupgrade -f my nvidia driver because it causes X to crash whenever 
any opengl apps  are run (eg glxgears, opengl screen savers).
If you had updated part of X recently, it may have been the source of your 
problem.

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RE: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)

2005-07-10 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


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Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 10:13 PM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt
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On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 at 15:09 (-0700), Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

 No, I am saying your going to have to rebuild with the June
drivers and
 _see_if_it_works_.

 If that locks up, well then as Nvidia wrote those drivers,
you can call
 them on their support line.  Please report back here and let
us know how
 this works out - a lot of people are avoiding purchasing that
chipset or
 boards with that chipset because Nvidia don't supply
programming info,
 and nobody really knows how well Nvidia is going to support us.

Ted,

Here's a followup report on the resolution of my video card problem.

Review:

The card I got with my new machine was an Nvidia GeForce 6600 (at least
that's how the system identifies it at boot time). The system
would lock
up once X windows was running, but with no error messages and
not until X
had been up at least for a while.

After downloading the most current Nvidia driver for this card,
building a
new kernel with 'device agp' removed and telling xorg.conf to use the
nvidia agp support, the symptoms still didn't change!

Resolution:

So, I talked to the vendor who sold me the machine and card and
he sent me
another card that's not quite as fast - a GeForce FX 5200. I
rebooted with
the original (GENERIC) kernel, configured my xorg.conf with
parameters for
my monitor (Samsung ScanMaster 213T), using 1600x1200
resolution, and it
all seems to work.

Although I suppose I might have gotten the 6600 to work, I
don't know how.
And using the 5200 card even without the tuning of xorg.conf
still didn't
give system lockup problems, just sub-optimal screen
resolution.  So, it
would appear that the 6600 card is currently not supported
under FreeBSD
5.4-RELEASE, unless there's just something else I don't know about.

Thus, I'm returning the 6600 card and getting a rebate for the
difference
in price.

That's where it stands now.  I have a working system.

Thanks for the various suggestions I received here.


Hi Mike,

  If I had a buck for every time a similar thing happened to someone

  I would bet that if you took that 6600 card to enough DIFFERENT
systems, you would find a motherboard in which it worked perfectly under
FreeBSD 5.4.

  And I would also bet that if I took your 5200 card to enough
DIFFERENT systems I would find several motherboards on which it
locked up the same as the 6600 card - and some of those would be
boards in which the 6600 worked flawlessly!

  This kind of thing is just par for the course in hardware and is
why the people at Dell and HP that select parts from OEMs for their
systems get paid the big bucks.

  I hope you fully document everything and send it all off to the driver
people at Nvidia, maybe they can patch around the problem.

  Glad to hear the system is working!  An ounce of stability is worth
a pound of go-fast gadgetry.

Ted

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Re: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)

2005-07-10 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:


 I would bet that if you took that 6600 card to enough DIFFERENT
systems, you would find a motherboard in which it worked perfectly under
FreeBSD 5.4.
 

6600 GT in an Asus A8V Deluxe + nvidia drivers (but not nv drivers where 
mozilla corrupts one a day).


Of course it's just *a* 6600, probably from a different manufacturer.


 This kind of thing is just par for the course in hardware and is
why the people at Dell and HP that select parts from OEMs for their
systems get paid the big bucks.

Sure.  And to find incompatible power supplies, write new firmware which 
doesn't work properly... ;-)


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RE: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)

2005-07-09 Thread Mike Friedman

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On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 at 15:09 (-0700), Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

No, I am saying your going to have to rebuild with the June drivers and 
_see_if_it_works_.


If that locks up, well then as Nvidia wrote those drivers, you can call 
them on their support line.  Please report back here and let us know how 
this works out - a lot of people are avoiding purchasing that chipset or 
boards with that chipset because Nvidia don't supply programming info, 
and nobody really knows how well Nvidia is going to support us.


Ted,

Here's a followup report on the resolution of my video card problem.

Review:

The card I got with my new machine was an Nvidia GeForce 6600 (at least 
that's how the system identifies it at boot time). The system would lock 
up once X windows was running, but with no error messages and not until X 
had been up at least for a while.


After downloading the most current Nvidia driver for this card, building a 
new kernel with 'device agp' removed and telling xorg.conf to use the 
nvidia agp support, the symptoms still didn't change!


Resolution:

So, I talked to the vendor who sold me the machine and card and he sent me 
another card that's not quite as fast - a GeForce FX 5200. I rebooted with 
the original (GENERIC) kernel, configured my xorg.conf with parameters for 
my monitor (Samsung ScanMaster 213T), using 1600x1200 resolution, and it 
all seems to work.


Although I suppose I might have gotten the 6600 to work, I don't know how. 
And using the 5200 card even without the tuning of xorg.conf still didn't 
give system lockup problems, just sub-optimal screen resolution.  So, it 
would appear that the 6600 card is currently not supported under FreeBSD 
5.4-RELEASE, unless there's just something else I don't know about.


Thus, I'm returning the 6600 card and getting a rebate for the difference 
in price.


That's where it stands now.  I have a working system.

Thanks for the various suggestions I received here.

Mike

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To: Ted Mittelstaedt
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)

On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 at 21:20 (-0700), Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

Your going to have to rebuild your system with the Nvidia written 
driver, see here:


http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_1.0-7667.html

and see if it works.  Read the readme file with this driver carefully 
first, then dig around the Internet, there are a few people who have 
posted notes on setting this driver up.


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Re: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)

2005-07-07 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Andreas Kohn wrote:


Hi,

say, do you see any messages like 


NVRM: Xid: 13,  02005600 0056 0c28 006500ac 0080

(Numbers may vary, I think) 
in your kernel messages after such a lock-up happened?
 

AFAIK this is not a FreeBSD-specific problem.  I think this URL is right 
but the site isn't responding at the moment.  I don't know if there is a 
solution there or not.  There were some interesting comments about 
running glxgears before running a game making things better, if that's 
the kind of thing you are doing (gaming, that is), but I never got to 
the end of the thread.  Most people reported the problem on much newer 
cards but the Xid is the classic symptom.


http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=49117

You could always try the nv drivers.  My Ge2 worked fine on them for 
years, while my  6600 suffered corruption at least once a day.


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FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)

2005-07-06 Thread Andreas Kohn
Hi,

say, do you see any messages like 

NVRM: Xid: 13,  02005600 0056 0c28 006500ac 0080

(Numbers may vary, I think) 
in your kernel messages after such a lock-up happened?

I have a NVidia Geforce 2MX, and drivers 1.0.6113 create such messages.
I don't have to completely reset the machine, the power-off button still
works and shuts down the system via ACPI.
OTOH, I'm on -CURRENT, so this may be a -CURRENT-only problem (where
nvidia drivers are not supported)

Regards,
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RE: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)

2005-07-04 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 5:29 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)


On 7/3/05, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No, I am saying your going to have to rebuild with the
 June drivers and _see_if_it_works_.

 If that locks up, well then as Nvidia wrote those drivers,
 you can call them on their support line.  Please report
 back here and let us know how this works out - a lot of
 people are avoiding purchasing that chipset or boards with
 that chipset because Nvidia don't supply programming info,
 and nobody really knows how well Nvidia is going to support
 us.
Is there any 3d hardware company that does supply enough programming
info? I looked a year ago, but I haven't seen any *product* yet,
although there are initiatives.


Yes, here's 2:

http://www.xgitech.com/about/about_press1.asp?CTID=%7BC3FD7D03-6BE1-4BB9-
9F34-1221E723B87F%7D

http://www.via.com.tw/en/resources/pressroom/2005_archive/pr050412_driver
source.jsp

Ted

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Re: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)

2005-07-03 Thread Ron
On 7/3/05, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 No, I am saying your going to have to rebuild with the
 June drivers and _see_if_it_works_.
 
 If that locks up, well then as Nvidia wrote those drivers,
 you can call them on their support line.  Please report
 back here and let us know how this works out - a lot of
 people are avoiding purchasing that chipset or boards with
 that chipset because Nvidia don't supply programming info,
 and nobody really knows how well Nvidia is going to support
 us.
Is there any 3d hardware company that does supply enough programming
info? I looked a year ago, but I haven't seen any *product* yet,
although there are initiatives.

Regards, Ron
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Re: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)

2005-07-03 Thread Roland Smith
On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 02:28:41PM +0200, Ron wrote:

 Is there any 3d hardware company that does supply enough programming
 info? I looked a year ago, but I haven't seen any *product* yet,
 although there are initiatives.

There is support for older cards from ATI (up to the Radeon 9250 aka
RV280) in Xorg and the kernel (drm device). Ditto for Matrox G200/400,
SIS 300/630/540. There is support for several intel integrated graphics
chipsets in xorg, but not in the 5.x kernel, although it's in CURRENT.

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RE: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)

2005-07-02 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

No, I am saying your going to have to rebuild with the
June drivers and _see_if_it_works_.

If that locks up, well then as Nvidia wrote those drivers,
you can call them on their support line.  Please report
back here and let us know how this works out - a lot of
people are avoiding purchasing that chipset or boards with
that chipset because Nvidia don't supply programming info,
and nobody really knows how well Nvidia is going to support
us.


Ted


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To: Ted Mittelstaedt
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On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 at 21:20 (-0700), Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

 Your going to have to rebuild your system with the Nvidia written
 driver, see here:

 http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_1.0-7667.html

 and see if it works.  Read the readme file with this driver carefully
 first, then dig around the Internet, there are a few people who have
 posted notes on setting this driver up.

As I indicated in my posting (see below), I did install the March, 2005
version (7174) of the nvidia driver.  Are you saying that this
new version
should make the difference?

Thanks.

Mike


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FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)

2005-07-01 Thread Mike Friedman

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(Apologies for the long post, but I'm including a lot of information since 
the problem appears obscure -- to me anyway).


I've just acquired a new computer (specs shown below) on which I've 
installed FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE.  I'm running Xorg 6.8.2 as my X windows 
platform.  When X is running, even if I'm not doing anything explicitly on 
the console (though a clock is always being updated on the screen), the 
machine will completely lock up, even though it had been running fine for 
a while and I was even able to bring up some Gnome windows before the 
lockup occurred.  Once the system has locked up, only a *hard reset* 
(holding machine startup button down for several seconds) will free it up 
and bring down the system so I can reboot.


As long as I don't run startx, I can use the system for hours at a time 
with no problem.


I'm enclosing below as much information as I can about my environment, not 
only for whatever help it might be in figuring this out, but also to 
emphasize the point that I got no other explicit error messages.


Any ideas about what the problem might be?

Thanks.

Mike Friedman

==
System:

Intel D915PCY Motherboard
Intel P4-530J 3.0 GHz 1Mb Cache/800MHz-FSB
nVidia 6600 PCI-e 16X Video Card
nvidia-FreeBSD-x86-1.0-7174 video driver ==
Samsung 213T 21 LCD monitor
FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE (i386)
Xorg 6.8.2
Gnome2-2.10.0
- --
xorg.conf:

Section ServerLayout
Identifier X.org Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section Files
RgbPath  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
ModulePath   /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
EndSection

Section Module
Load  dbe
Load  dri
Load  extmod
Load  glx
Load  record
Load  xtrap
Load  freetype
Load  type1
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
EndSection

Section Monitor
#DisplaySize  430   320 # mm
Identifier   Monitor0
VendorName   SAM
ModelNameSyncMaster
 ### Uncomment if you don't want to default to DDC:
#   HorizSync30.0 - 81.0
#   VertRefresh  56.0 - 75.0
Option  DPMS
EndSection

Section Device
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False,
### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option SWcursor  # [bool]
#Option HWcursor  # [bool]
#Option NoAccel   # [bool]
#Option ShadowFB  # [bool]
#Option UseFBDev  # [bool]
#Option Rotate# [str]
#Option VideoKey  # i
#Option FlatPanel # [bool]
#Option FPDither  # [bool]
#Option CrtcNumber# i
#Option FPScale   # [bool]
#Option FPTweak   # i
Identifier  Card0
Driver  nvidia
VendorName  nVidia Corporation
BoardName   GeForce2 Go
BusID   PCI:1:0:0
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Card0
MonitorMonitor0
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
Modes 1024x768
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection
- --
/var/log/Xorg.0.log:

X Window System Version 6.8.2
Release Date: 9 February 2005
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2
Build Operating System: FreeBSD 5.4 i386 [ELF]
Current Operating

RE: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)

2005-07-01 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Your going to have to rebuild your system with the Nvidia
written driver, see here:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_1.0-7667.html

and see if it works.  Read the readme file with this
driver carefully first, then dig around the Internet, there
are a few people who have posted notes on setting this
driver up.

Ted

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(Apologies for the long post, but I'm including a lot of
information since
the problem appears obscure -- to me anyway).

I've just acquired a new computer (specs shown below) on which I've
installed FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE.  I'm running Xorg 6.8.2 as my X windows
platform.  When X is running, even if I'm not doing anything
explicitly on
the console (though a clock is always being updated on the screen), the
machine will completely lock up, even though it had been
running fine for
a while and I was even able to bring up some Gnome windows before the
lockup occurred.  Once the system has locked up, only a *hard reset*
(holding machine startup button down for several seconds) will
free it up
and bring down the system so I can reboot.

As long as I don't run startx, I can use the system for hours at a time
with no problem.

I'm enclosing below as much information as I can about my
environment, not
only for whatever help it might be in figuring this out, but also to
emphasize the point that I got no other explicit error messages.

Any ideas about what the problem might be?

Thanks.

Mike Friedman

==
System:

Intel D915PCY Motherboard
Intel P4-530J 3.0 GHz 1Mb Cache/800MHz-FSB
nVidia 6600 PCI-e 16X Video Card
nvidia-FreeBSD-x86-1.0-7174 video driver ==
Samsung 213T 21 LCD monitor
FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE (i386)
Xorg 6.8.2
Gnome2-2.10.0
- --
xorg.conf:

Section ServerLayout
 Identifier X.org Configured
 Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section Files
 RgbPath  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
 ModulePath   /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
EndSection

Section Module
 Load  dbe
 Load  dri
 Load  extmod
 Load  glx
 Load  record
 Load  xtrap
 Load  freetype
 Load  type1
EndSection

Section InputDevice
 Identifier  Keyboard0
 Driver  kbd
EndSection

Section InputDevice
 Identifier  Mouse0
 Driver  mouse
 Option  Protocol auto
 Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
EndSection

Section Monitor
 #DisplaySize  430   320 # mm
 Identifier   Monitor0
 VendorName   SAM
 ModelNameSyncMaster
  ### Uncomment if you don't want to default to DDC:
#   HorizSync30.0 - 81.0
#   VertRefresh  56.0 - 75.0
 Option  DPMS
EndSection

Section Device
 ### Available Driver options are:-
 ### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False,
 ### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz
 ### [arg]: arg optional
 #Option SWcursor  # [bool]
 #Option HWcursor  # [bool]
 #Option NoAccel   # [bool]
 #Option ShadowFB  # [bool]
 #Option UseFBDev  # [bool]
 #Option Rotate# [str]
 #Option VideoKey  # i
 #Option FlatPanel # [bool]
 #Option FPDither  # [bool]
 #Option CrtcNumber# i
 #Option FPScale   # [bool]
 #Option FPTweak   # i
 Identifier  Card0
 Driver  nvidia
 VendorName  nVidia Corporation
 BoardName   GeForce2 Go
 BusID   PCI:1:0:0
EndSection

Section Screen
 Identifier Screen0
 Device Card0
 MonitorMonitor0
 DefaultDepth 24
 SubSection Display
 Viewport   0 0
 Depth 1
 EndSubSection
 SubSection Display
 Viewport   0 0
 Depth 4
 EndSubSection
 SubSection Display
 Viewport   0 0
 Depth 24
 Modes 1024x768

RE: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)

2005-07-01 Thread Mike Friedman

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On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 at 21:20 (-0700), Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

Your going to have to rebuild your system with the Nvidia written 
driver, see here:


http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_1.0-7667.html

and see if it works.  Read the readme file with this driver carefully 
first, then dig around the Internet, there are a few people who have 
posted notes on setting this driver up.


As I indicated in my posting (see below), I did install the March, 2005 
version (7174) of the nvidia driver.  Are you saying that this new version 
should make the difference?


Thanks.

Mike



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Shuttle SN41G2 V3 X-Windows Problem

2005-06-27 Thread Phusion
I just got a Shuttle SN41G2 V3 this week and have installed FreeBSD
5.4 on it. I've installed xorg and a window manager, but it crashes
when I run startx. I've enclosed a copy of my Xorg.0.log and xorg.conf
files to look over. Let me know what you think my problem is. Thanks.

Phusion

X Window System Version 6.8.2
Release Date: 9 February 2005
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2
Build Operating System: FreeBSD 5.4 i386 [ELF] 
Current Operating System: FreeBSD earth.packetwatch.net 5.4-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 
5.4-RELEASE-p2 #5: Sun Jun 26 10:39:02 CDT 2005 [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/earth i386
Build Date: 26 June 2005
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Sun Jun 26 11:55:52 2005
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
(==) ServerLayout Xorg Configured
(**) |--Screen Screen (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor Monitor
(**) |   |--Device Card
(**) |--Input Device Mouse
(**) |--Input Device Keyboard
(**) Option AutoRepeat 500 30
(**) Option XkbRules xorg
(**) XKB: rules: xorg
(**) Option XkbModel microsoft
(**) XKB: model: microsoft
(**) Option XkbLayout us
(**) XKB: layout: us
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) FontPath set to 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/URW/
(**) RgbPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
(**) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
(**) Option DontZap
(II) Module ABI versions:
X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.2
X.Org Video Driver: 0.7
X.Org XInput driver : 0.4
X.Org Server Extension : 0.2
X.Org Font Renderer : 0.4
(II) Loader running on freebsd
(II) LoadModule: bitmap
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Font Renderer
ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: pcidata
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
(--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0)
(--) using VT number 9

(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x, mode1Res1 = 0x8000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 10de,01e0 card , rev a2 class 06,00,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:00:1: chip 10de,01eb card 1297,5011 rev a2 class 05,00,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:00:2: chip 10de,01ee card 1297,5011 rev a2 class 05,00,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:00:3: chip 10de,01ed card 1297,5011 rev a2 class 05,00,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:00:4: chip 10de,01ec card 1297,5011 rev a2 class 05,00,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:00:5: chip 10de,01ef card 1297,5011 rev a2 class 05,00,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 10de,0080 card 1297,5011 rev a3 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:01:1: chip 10de,0084 card 1297,5011 rev a1 class 0c,05,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:02:0: chip 10de,0087 card 1297,5011 rev a1 class 0c,03,10 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:02:1: chip 10de,0087 card 1297,5011 rev a1 class 0c,03,10 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:02:2: chip 10de,0088 card 1297,5011 rev a2 class 0c,03,20 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:06:0: chip 10de,008a card 1297,5011 rev a1 class 04,01,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:08:0: chip 10de,008b card , rev a3 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:09:0: chip 10de,0085 card 1297,5011 rev a3 class 01,01,8a hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 10de,01e8 card , rev a2 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 01:04:0: chip 1106,3044 card 1106,3044 rev 46 class 0c,00,10 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 01:06:0: chip 10b7,9055 card 10b7,9055 rev 30 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 02:00:0: chip 10de,01f0 card 1297,f540 rev a3 class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,2), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
[0] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:8:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x0002 (VGA_EN is cleared)
(II) Bus 1 I/O range:
[0] -1  0   0xd000 - 0xdfff (0x1000) IX[B]
(II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1  0   0xea00 - 

Re: Loading .bash_profile under X-Windows

2005-04-12 Thread Sandy Rutherford
 On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 01:12:25 -0700, 
 Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

  On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 10:40:01AM +0200, Kiffin Gish wrote:
  How can I get terminal under X-Windows to load my .bash_profile (and any
  other stuff) that is usually loaded when at the initial prompt?
  
  A more general question might be: what files (.profile, .login, whatever)
  and in what order are loaded every I login via a shell and how are these
  settings propagated up through Gnome desktop?

 ...snip...

  The first shell was just started normally and the second was started as
  a login shell.  Connecting to a machine through ssh or logging in on a
  text console starts a login shell, but running an xterm in X-Windows or
  running bash from whatever shell your already in isn't since your
  already logged in.  If you start X-Windows with the startx command, your
  login is considered when you first logged in on the text console and
  that same environment is propagated to the gui environment, gnome in
  your case.  When you log in from a graphical log in utility, it's a
  little more complicated.  The gui login program, whether it be xdm, gdm,
  or kdm starts a shell script which eventually starts your gui
  environment.  The problem is that it's not usually the same as your
  login shell, but whatever shell was used to write the script.  In some
  cases you can write your own shell script called .xsession or .Xclients
  in your home directory and it can load in .bash_profile and then start
  gnome.

Depending on what kind of stuff you put in your .bash_profile file, I
have found it convenient to separate the bits that I would like to be
run by the gui login program from what I would like to be run when I
login via ssh or a terminal.  I do this by putting all environment
variable settings in a file, .bash_env.  Both my .bash_profile and
.xsession files source this file.

Sandy
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Re: Loading .bash_profile under X-Windows

2005-04-11 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 10:40:01AM +0200, Kiffin Gish wrote:
 How can I get terminal under X-Windows to load my .bash_profile (and any
 other stuff) that is usually loaded when at the initial prompt?
 
 A more general question might be: what files (.profile, .login, whatever)
 and in what order are loaded every I login via a shell and how are these
 settings propagated up through Gnome desktop?
.bash_profile, .profile, .login are read on login shells only.  When a
shell is invoked by the exec() syscall, it's name is prepended with a -
to mean it's a login shell and most shells work differently like reading
.profile.  For example running ps ax|grep bash on my system yields:

...
81288  q1  Is 0:00.02 bash
88710  q3  Is 0:00.03 -bash (bash)
...

The first shell was just started normally and the second was started as
a login shell.  Connecting to a machine through ssh or logging in on a
text console starts a login shell, but running an xterm in X-Windows or
running bash from whatever shell your already in isn't since your
already logged in.  If you start X-Windows with the startx command, your
login is considered when you first logged in on the text console and
that same environment is propagated to the gui environment, gnome in
your case.  When you log in from a graphical log in utility, it's a
little more complicated.  The gui login program, whether it be xdm, gdm,
or kdm starts a shell script which eventually starts your gui
environment.  The problem is that it's not usually the same as your
login shell, but whatever shell was used to write the script.  In some
cases you can write your own shell script called .xsession or .Xclients
in your home directory and it can load in .bash_profile and then start
gnome.

 
 Thanks a lot in advance. 
 
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Loading .bash_profile under X-Windows

2005-04-09 Thread Kiffin Gish
How can I get terminal under X-Windows to load my .bash_profile (and any
other stuff) that is usually loaded when at the initial prompt?

A more general question might be: what files (.profile, .login, whatever)
and in what order are loaded every I login via a shell and how are these
settings propagated up through Gnome desktop?

Thanks a lot in advance. 

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Re: Loading .bash_profile under X-Windows

2005-04-09 Thread Nico Meijer
He Kiffin,

 How can I get terminal under X-Windows to load my .bash_profile (and
 any other stuff) that is usually loaded when at the initial prompt?

Run `xterm -ls`. Then read its man page. ;-)

Bye... Nico
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FreeBSD 5.3 X-Windows Config During Installation

2005-04-08 Thread WOLOSCHAK, FRANK, JR (FRANK)
Good Morning,

I am having problems installing FreeBSD 5.3. It appears that the installation 
options do not include: Configure XFree86 Server and Configure XFree86 
Desktop. I am aware that version 5.3 now uses Xorg vice Xfree86 as the 
default X-Windows system.

I am fluent in several varies of Unix (Solaris, HPUX, Red Hat, SCO), but am new 
to FreeBSD. When installing FreeBSD 5.0, I was given the 2 above options, and 
was able to set a Gnome Desktop.

Numerous attempts to install FreeBSD 5.3, I was never given the above options, 
and although I was eventually able to get a brain-dead Gnome desktop to appear, 
I couldn't do anything with it. 

QUESTIONS:
1) Why doesn't the FreeBSD 5.3 install give configuration options for the 
X-Windows server and desktop?

2) If the answer to #1 is that the Xorg implementation doesn't contain these, 
then please help me find the easiest way to setup the Gnome desktop following 
a new fresh installation.

My intent is to continue playing with FreeBSD, and explore kick start here at 
work.

Thank you for your help,

Have A Wonderful Day,

Ivan

Frank Ivan Woloschak
AG Communication Systems
623.581.4123  Beeper: 888.235.4081

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Re: FreeBSD 5.3 X-Windows Config During Installation

2005-04-08 Thread pete wright
On Apr 8, 2005 10:00 AM, WOLOSCHAK, FRANK, JR (FRANK)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 QUESTIONS:
 1) Why doesn't the FreeBSD 5.3 install give configuration options for the 
 X-Windows server and desktop?

If you check out the handbook it states that the X installation has
been removed from the instalation setup (which frankly is not a big
issue for most users IMO due to the fact that few people would want to
run X on a server platform which I recon would be a majority of the
user base for FreeBSD).  In any event they point to directions here:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11.html


 
 2) If the answer to #1 is that the Xorg implementation doesn't contain 
 these, then please help me find the easiest way to setup the Gnome desktop 
 following a new fresh installation.
 
this should be outlined in the above doc.


good luck.

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Re: FreeBSD 5.3 X-Windows Config During Installation

2005-04-08 Thread CHris Rich
On Apr 8, 2005 12:00 PM, WOLOSCHAK, FRANK, JR (FRANK)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Good Morning,
 
 I am having problems installing FreeBSD 5.3. It appears that the installation 
 options do not include: Configure XFree86 Server and Configure XFree86 
 Desktop. I am aware that version 5.3 now uses Xorg vice Xfree86 as the 
 default X-Windows system.
 
That is correct Xorg is the new default X window system in 5.3

 I am fluent in several varies of Unix (Solaris, HPUX, Red Hat, SCO), but am 
 new to FreeBSD. When installing FreeBSD 5.0, I was given the 2 above options, 
 and was able to set a Gnome Desktop.

 Numerous attempts to install FreeBSD 5.3, I was never given the above 
 options, and although I was eventually able to get a brain-dead Gnome desktop 
 to appear, I couldn't do anything with it.
 
 QUESTIONS:
 1) Why doesn't the FreeBSD 5.3 install give configuration options for the 
 X-Windows server and desktop?

This I don't know the answer to but I'm assumiing it's because Xorg is
the new X window system
 
 2) If the answer to #1 is that the Xorg implementation doesn't contain 
 these, then please help me find the easiest way to setup the Gnome desktop 
 following a new fresh installation.
Easiest way to set up X is to type at the command prompt when logged in as root:
xorgconfig

That will start a wizard which will ask questions about your hardware.
Be sure to have these answers before you start such as what type of
video card...hsync and vert refresh of your monitor. Once the wizard
is done it will write a config file to use with X

Make sure gnome is installed through sysinstall or through the ports

After the configuration is done go into your home directory and edit
(or create if it does not exist) .xinitrc and type in for gnome
(though I'm unsure so you might want to look this up). gnome-session.
 
 My intent is to continue playing with FreeBSD, and explore kick start here 
 at work.
 
 Thank you for your help,
 
 Have A Wonderful Day,
 
 Ivan
 
 Frank Ivan Woloschak
 AG Communication Systems
 623.581.4123  Beeper: 888.235.4081
 
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Re: Problems starting X windows :S

2005-03-26 Thread Mario Hoerich
# faisal gillani:
 
 Fatal server error:
 xf86EnableIO: Failed to open /dev/io for extended I/O
 
 what can be wrong ?

/dev/io has been made a module a while back.  Either load mem/io
with kldload or rebuild your kernel with an additional 
device io
device mem

in your kernel config.

 HTH,
Mario
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Re: Problems starting X windows :S

2005-03-26 Thread Philip M. Golllucci
Hi,
most likely you are running at a security level thats too high
check your  setting in /etc/rc.conf
Start it at -1 or disable it as a start.
If thats not it you might not have the device in your kernel...
add
device io and recompile.

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faisal gillani wrote:
i wanted to test freebsd as a desktop but am stuck in
the first step , making frebsd graphical . i get this
error while startingx 

Fatal server error:
xf86EnableIO: Failed to open /dev/io for extended I/O
what can be wrong ?
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Problems starting X windows :S

2005-03-25 Thread faisal gillani
i wanted to test freebsd as a desktop but am stuck in
the first step , making frebsd graphical . i get this
error while startingx 

Fatal server error:
xf86EnableIO: Failed to open /dev/io for extended I/O

what can be wrong ?

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Re: Grainy X Windows and KDE.

2005-02-17 Thread Greg Barniskis
Dmitri Furman wrote:
Dear FreeBSD experts.  Your help with this would be greatly appreciated. 
I spent a week now trying to setup FreeBSD on my Dell Dimension 8200 
Desktop.  Most of the time was spent setting up Xorg to work.  I have 
Nvidia video card GeForce MX4400 with 32 MB or RAM.  I had to rebuild 
kernel to make Nvidia driver work.  I am able to run in 1024x768 mode 
but picture is really grainy.  I specified depth at 24 and also tried 
32.  I have a 15 Flat Panel monitor.  If anyone had any luck or has 
some pointers on what I have to do to resolve grainy colors problem 
please let me know what I need to do.  Thank you.
Is 1024x768 the native resolution of your flat panel? My 
experience with LCDs is that any deviation from the OEM's 
recommended resolution is likely to result in an ugly display.

The more expensive the panel is, the better it is likely to look at 
alternate resolutions, but generally there can be only one with 
regard to best image quality.

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Re: Grainy X Windows and KDE.

2005-02-17 Thread Dmitri Furman
Thank you Greg.  Yes it is native resolution for the display.  This is what 
I run Windows on.  It is also using 60 Hz for refresh rate.

From: Greg Barniskis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dmitri Furman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Grainy X Windows and KDE.
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:02:01 -0600
Dmitri Furman wrote:
Dear FreeBSD experts.  Your help with this would be greatly appreciated. I 
spent a week now trying to setup FreeBSD on my Dell Dimension 8200 
Desktop.  Most of the time was spent setting up Xorg to work.  I have 
Nvidia video card GeForce MX4400 with 32 MB or RAM.  I had to rebuild 
kernel to make Nvidia driver work.  I am able to run in 1024x768 mode but 
picture is really grainy.  I specified depth at 24 and also tried 32.  I 
have a 15 Flat Panel monitor.  If anyone had any luck or has some 
pointers on what I have to do to resolve grainy colors problem please let 
me know what I need to do.  Thank you.
Is 1024x768 the native resolution of your flat panel? My experience with 
LCDs is that any deviation from the OEM's recommended resolution is likely 
to result in an ugly display.

The more expensive the panel is, the better it is likely to look at 
alternate resolutions, but generally there can be only one with regard to 
best image quality.

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Re: Grainy X Windows and KDE.

2005-02-17 Thread Paul Mather
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 23:25:05 -0600, Dmitri Furman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear FreeBSD experts.  Your help with this would be greatly appreciated. I 
 spent a week now trying to setup FreeBSD on my Dell Dimension 8200 Desktop.  
 Most of the time was spent setting up Xorg to work.  I have Nvidia video 
 card GeForce MX4400 with 32 MB or RAM.  I had to rebuild kernel to make 
 Nvidia driver work.  I am able to run in 1024x768 mode but picture is really 
 grainy.  I specified depth at 24 and also tried 32.  I have a 15 Flat Panel 
 monitor.  If anyone had any luck or has some pointers on what I have to do 
 to resolve grainy colors problem please let me know what I need to do.  

I'm not sure what you mean when you say grainy, but I do know that
with flat panel monitors you get the crispest display when you run X at
the native resolution of the flat panel monitor.  If you run it at some
other (lower) resolution, the results can be somewhat blurry, IMHO, as
the lower resolution is being mapped onto the higher native resolution
(and sometimes at a different aspect ratio).

So, a fix would be to determine the native resolution of your flat panel
display and to use that (adjusting font sizes, etc. as needed).  In my
case, I was running a Sony 19 CRT monitor at 1152x864 and replaced the
Sony with a flat panel display.  The picture looked a bit fuzzy until I
switched to using the native 1280x1024 resolution of the flat panel, at
which point the picture quality improved dramatically.

Cheers,

Paul.
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Re: Grainy X Windows and KDE.

2005-02-17 Thread Greg Barniskis
Dmitri Furman wrote:
Thank you Greg.  Yes it is native resolution for the display.  This is 
what I run Windows on.  It is also using 60 Hz for refresh rate.

From: Greg Barniskis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dmitri Furman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Grainy X Windows and KDE.
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:02:01 -0600
Dmitri Furman wrote:
Dear FreeBSD experts.  Your help with this would be greatly 
appreciated. I spent a week now trying to setup FreeBSD on my Dell 
Dimension 8200 Desktop.  Most of the time was spent setting up Xorg 
to work.  I have Nvidia video card GeForce MX4400 with 32 MB or RAM.  
I had to rebuild kernel to make Nvidia driver work.  I am able to run 
in 1024x768 mode but picture is really grainy.  I specified depth at 
24 and also tried 32.  I have a 15 Flat Panel monitor.  If anyone 
had any luck or has some pointers on what I have to do to resolve 
grainy colors problem please let me know what I need to do.  Thank you.
[snip]
Well, sorry it's not the simplest thing. Being an old school CLI 
mode server monkey, I don't really have any great X Windows 
expertise to offer.

FWIW, I set up a 5.3-STABLE box with all the latest gnome2 widgetry 
last week (thinking I might finally be able to stop my brother's use 
of dangerous MS-based web browsing habits if I gave him a 
non-Windows desktop). Although I recompiled a GENERIC kernel after 
cvsup, I didn't have any trouble getting the nvidia driver going 
(card is a 5200) or getting Xorg and gnome2 configured (thank you 
FreeBSD Gnome porters!). Since you mention recompiling your kernel 
to get the video card going, it might be helpful if you provided 
more detail to the list for those whose expertise might come to bear 
on it.

I might also suggest simple trial and error; if you can put a 
regular tube monitor on this system, and/or if you can try different 
X Windows configuration settings with the panel, it might be telling 
if the problem gets better or worse.

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Re: Grainy X Windows and KDE.

2005-02-17 Thread Greg Barniskis
Greg Barniskis wrote:
...
Well, sorry it's not the simplest thing. Being an old school CLI mode 
server monkey, I don't really have any great X Windows expertise to offer.
No sooner had I sent this than I recalled the result of a previous 
experiment I performed trying to get KDE running on 5.2 quite a 
while ago. The default desktop background was set to a particular 
gray color, which when viewed on my monitor caused an *awful* moire 
pattern. This problem went away when I changed the desktop color to 
anything else. Is that your problem?

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RE: Grainy X Windows and KDE.

2005-02-17 Thread Dmitri Furman
I was able to resolve the issue.  I did not have DefaultDepth setup in 
Monitor section. I added a line:

DefaultDepth 24
In screen section and everything looks great now.
Thank you.
From: Dmitri Furman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Grainy X Windows and KDE.
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 23:25:05 -0600
Dear FreeBSD experts.  Your help with this would be greatly appreciated. I 
spent a week now trying to setup FreeBSD on my Dell Dimension 8200 Desktop. 
 Most of the time was spent setting up Xorg to work.  I have Nvidia video 
card GeForce MX4400 with 32 MB or RAM.  I had to rebuild kernel to make 
Nvidia driver work.  I am able to run in 1024x768 mode but picture is 
really grainy.  I specified depth at 24 and also tried 32.  I have a 15 
Flat Panel monitor.  If anyone had any luck or has some pointers on what I 
have to do to resolve grainy colors problem please let me know what I need 
to do.  Thank you.

Dmitri Furman
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Grainy X Windows and KDE.

2005-02-16 Thread Dmitri Furman
Dear FreeBSD experts.  Your help with this would be greatly appreciated. I 
spent a week now trying to setup FreeBSD on my Dell Dimension 8200 Desktop.  
Most of the time was spent setting up Xorg to work.  I have Nvidia video 
card GeForce MX4400 with 32 MB or RAM.  I had to rebuild kernel to make 
Nvidia driver work.  I am able to run in 1024x768 mode but picture is really 
grainy.  I specified depth at 24 and also tried 32.  I have a 15 Flat Panel 
monitor.  If anyone had any luck or has some pointers on what I have to do 
to resolve grainy colors problem please let me know what I need to do.  
Thank you.

Dmitri Furman
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Re: Grainy X Windows and KDE.

2005-02-16 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Wednesday, 16 February 2005 at 23:25:05 -0600, Dmitri Furman wrote:
 Dear FreeBSD experts.  Your help with this would be greatly appreciated. I
 spent a week now trying to setup FreeBSD on my Dell Dimension 8200 Desktop.
 Most of the time was spent setting up Xorg to work.  I have Nvidia video
 card GeForce MX4400 with 32 MB or RAM.  I had to rebuild kernel to make
 Nvidia driver work.  I am able to run in 1024x768 mode but picture is
 really grainy.  I specified depth at 24 and also tried 32.  I have a 15
 Flat Panel monitor.  If anyone had any luck or has some pointers on what I
 have to do to resolve grainy colors problem please let me know what I need
 to do.  Thank you.

How about posting a screen shot somewhere?  It's not very clear what
you mean here.

Greg
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Re: Grainy X Windows and KDE.

2005-02-16 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Greg 'groggy' Lehey writes:

 How about posting a screen shot somewhere?  It's not very clear what
 you mean here.

It sounds like 256-color mode and/or dithering of colors.  That
shouldn't be necessary at 16-bit color or beyond, though.

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Question regarding X windows client-server implementation

2004-11-10 Thread Mark Jayson Alvarez
Good day!
  Something is bothering me for so long regarding the
X windows client-server architecture. 

 First of all, I know that X server(eg; xorg) manages
my monitor, keyboard, mouse and video card. And also,
the clients are those applications that I run (eg,
kde, mozilla).

  Since I ran them both(xserver,x clients) on only one
pc(my workstation), that would be very simple and fine
for me. 

  But then I'm confused by the fact that I can let my
x clients connect to a remote x server,(eg, on a LAN).


How can that be?
 For example, I'm looking at my monitor right now..
And then there is this xorg installed on another pc
beside me. Now what I'm thinking is that the xorg
installed on another pc, knows the specs of my monitor
and graphics card and then I will authenticate my self
to it remotely.. then what? the x server will manage
my monitor and keyboard inputs remotely??? 

  And here's another scenario which I'm thinking of..
I have a workstation but its mouse, keyboard and
monitor is connected to a remote machine running x
server via a very very long monitor and keyboard
cable(hmm.. haven't seen anything that long). Aaaah! I
really can't get it.. Could you enlighten me please.
The handbook lacks this details. I'm thinking perhaps
it's because that section in the handbook is for a
typical user with standalone workstation and not for
an implementation of x window client-server on a
network. I just wanted to try this setup and many
other interesting things in FreeBSD with my
officemate. I hope you could help me.

Thanks a lot and have a nice day!







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Re: Question regarding X windows client-server implementation

2004-11-10 Thread Danny MacMillan
On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 09:10:57PM -0700, Mark Jayson Alvarez wrote:

[...]

   But then I'm confused by the fact that I can let my
 x clients connect to a remote x server,(eg, on a LAN).
 
 How can that be?
  For example, I'm looking at my monitor right now..
 And then there is this xorg installed on another pc
 beside me. Now what I'm thinking is that the xorg
 installed on another pc, knows the specs of my monitor
 and graphics card and then I will authenticate my self
 to it remotely.. then what? the x server will manage
 my monitor and keyboard inputs remotely??? 

I'm no X expert, but this is how it seems to me:

A server is just a piece of code that does something when
another piece of code (a client) asks it to.  So your X
server, which knows all about your hardware, sits there
waiting for the X client to ask it to do something.  Like
draw a square or print the letter 'X' or tell me
what key was just pressed.  In the case of X the client
and server can be separated by a network, in which case
these requests and corresponding response data have to
travel down the wire.  The nomenclature is a bit
confusing at first because we're used to thinking of the
client code being closest to the human and server code
as being farthest away (at least I am).

The keyboard, mouse, and video are not remote from the
X server; they're local to the X server.  The X clients
execute on the remote box, but have their I/O sent
through a network connection to the X server.  It's not
very different conceptually from connecting to a Unix
box using an SSH client from another machine.  If I SSH
in to my home machine from work and run vi, vi is running
on my home box, but the output is displayed on my work
box and the input is collected from my work box.  The
only difference is the shift in perspective needed to
mentally reverse the 'client' and 'server' roles.

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X Windows Mouse Issues

2004-09-29 Thread Nathan Alan Souer
Greetings,
   I am running 4.9 on a Pavilion N5210. 650 Celeron. 192 megs of ram. 
Savage S3 video card, Direct X in windows reports it as 4 megs of 
dedicated video memory. Whenever X windows loads instead of a mouse 
cursor, I get a .75 inch square of distortion. The rest of the display 
comes up great. This happens in all the desktop managers I've tried: the 
default vanilla x, KDE, and XFce. It even happens in Red Hat 9! However 
I do not get the problem in any version of windows. The kernal is 
installed as default. The mouse is configured using the moused daemon. x 
is using sysmouse. my monitor is set to specs from hewlett-packard: 
resolution, refresh, and color depth. I'm worried that this is a video 
memory limitation which would be unfortunate I don't want windows on 
this laptop!
Thanks everyone in advance,
Nathan
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About X-windows

2004-09-21 Thread ?fffc6?fffdc ?fffd5?fffc5
After I started my x-windows, there is just a mesh-like stuff on the screen.And it 
will also displays several terminals.However, I can't see start menu and anything 
else. I installed my BSD under Vmware.And my displayer adapter is Mobility Radeon 
7500.My laptop is IBM T40.I want to know is this because of the driver of the display 
adapter or anything else. How to solve this problem.
Thanks!



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Re: About X-windows

2004-09-21 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 12:25:42AM +0800, ?c6?dc ?d5?c5 wrote:

 After I started my x-windows, there is just a mesh-like stuff on the
 screen.And it will also displays several terminals.However, I can't
 see start menu and anything else. I installed my BSD under
 Vmware.And my displayer adapter is Mobility Radeon 7500.My laptop is
 IBM T40.I want to know is this because of the driver of the display
 adapter or anything else. How to solve this problem.

Congratulations.  You've got the X server running, which is most of
the battle.

What you need to do now is install a window manager or a desktop
environment, which will give you all of the icons and menus and stuff
you expect.  See http://www.xwinman.org/ for a site that reviews most
of the available ones: pretty much all of them should be available
from ports -- just install the one you want, and follow the
instructions in the documentation for getting it to start up
automatically when you start up an X session.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: About X-windows

2004-09-21 Thread Bill Moran
ÿc6ÿdc ÿd5ÿc5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 After I started my x-windows, there is just a mesh-like stuff on the
 screen.And it will also displays several terminals.However, I can't
 see start menu and anything else. I installed my BSD under Vmware.And
 my displayer adapter is Mobility Radeon 7500.My laptop is IBM T40.I
 want to know is this because of the driver of the display adapter or
 anything else. How to solve this problem.

Please wrap your lines around 72 characters, see
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html

X is fine, you are using a minimal display manager, which doesn't have
all the fancy features you are looking for.

See this section of the handbook for more information:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html

But what makes you think you'll get a start menu in any case?

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determine X windows version from command line

2004-08-30 Thread Steven Friedrich
I've been massaging UberMon for SuperKaramba for my FreeBSD systems.

I'd like to be able to run a command that will yield which X window system is 
installed and what version.

I've done it with something like startx -- -version, but this is problematic 
if X windows is running (which is the scenario I need it to work in).

Even then, I'd have to grep for XFree86 Version so it isn't a general 
solution that would work for systems already switched to x-org.

Any deas?
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Re: determine X windows version from command line

2004-08-30 Thread Phil Schulz
Steven Friedrich wrote:
I'd like to be able to run a command that will yield which X window system is 
installed and what version.

`X -version` works for me. But I'm not sure if this will also work w/ 
X.org since I'm still running XFree86

Regards,
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Keyboard shortcuts for x windows system

2004-06-19 Thread Douglas Korinke
Running FreeBSD 4.9 and am trying to find a list of keyboard shortcuts to 
help me exit the x windows system without the help of the mouse.

Thanks again,
Doug

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Re: Keyboard shortcuts for x windows system

2004-06-19 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2004-06-19 21:08, Douglas Korinke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Running FreeBSD 4.9 and am trying to find a list of keyboard shortcuts
 to help me exit the x windows system without the help of the mouse.

CTRL+ALT+Backspace should bring down the entire X server.

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Re: About KDE (X-Windows, in fact)

2004-04-05 Thread Teilhard Knight
 On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 02:10:35AM -0600, Teilhard Knight wrote:
  I posted about my problem in the questions group, but I only got replies
  from one person, and although helpful, it didn't solve my problem.
 
  It's about my Leadtek WinFast GeForce3 graphics card with NVIDIA
chipset. It
  was working all right (for simple tasks, I didn't try games or something
  complicated) with the driver nv. I decided to install the NVIDIA
driver
  for FreeBSD, and now I am getting the error message: NVIDIA: Chipset
  GeForce3 in Device section card0 isn't valid for this driver. I cannot


 Try removing (if there is it) the line Chipset in your device
 section (XF86


You got it. I removed the line, and I could start KDE all right.


 Read also these documents:

 /usr/X11R6/share/doc/NVIDIA/README
 /usr/X11R6/share/doc/NVIDIA/README.Linux
 /usr/X11R6/share/doc/NVIDIA/XF86Config.sample

 And check /var/log/XFree86.0.log


I had read them already. Had to add the option: USER_LDT and recompile my
kernel.

Thanks so much for taking the time to give me your advise.

Teilhard

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Re: Java Requires X Windows?

2004-03-29 Thread Jan Grant
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004, Matthew Seaman wrote:

 On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 06:01:51PM -0900, Joe Pokupec wrote:

  Do I need to have X Windows installed for Java to 1.4 to run on FreeBSD 5.1?

To run, no. To build, what Matthew said.

 You don't need a full installation of XFree86: all you need are the
 devel/imake4 and the x11/XFree86-4-libraries ports.

Although if you're doing any AWT stuff server-side (eg, rendering
graphics on the fly for delivery by servlet) you may find you need this:

JAVA_OPTS=-Djava.awt.headless=true

I believe the 1.4 release notes for Java include details about its
somewhat improved (ie, it works) headless support.

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Re: Java Requires X Windows?

2004-03-27 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 06:01:51PM -0900, Joe Pokupec wrote:

 Do I need to have X Windows installed for Java to 1.4 to run on FreeBSD 5.1?

You don't need a full installation of XFree86: all you need are the
devel/imake4 and the x11/XFree86-4-libraries ports.

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Java Requires X Windows?

2004-03-26 Thread Joe Pokupec
Hey Guys,

Do I need to have X Windows installed for Java to 1.4 to run on FreeBSD 5.1?

Thanks

Joe

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X Windows

2004-01-30 Thread Matt Juszczak
Hi all,

About 6 months ago, I was having trouble generating my X config file (so
that it would run in 800x600, etc. etc.).  The command line config would
work but I would never know my video card, etc.  Then someone told me a
utility to use that actually automatically detected my video card and
generated the config for me.  I don't believe I even had to install
anything extra Configurator? or something like that.  Any ideas?

Thanks!

-matt

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Re: X Windows

2004-01-30 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:43:11 -0500 (EST)
Matt Juszczak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 About 6 months ago, I was having trouble generating my X config file
 (so that it would run in 800x600, etc. etc.).  The command line
 config would work but I would never know my video card, etc.  Then
 someone told me a utility to use that actually automatically
 detected my video card and generated the config for me.  I don't
 believe I even had to install anything extra Configurator? or
 something like that.  Any ideas?

Well XFree86 -configure will take care of it... and it works on all
systems that XFree86 runs on...

then just move the file to where ever and use xf86cfg -textmode to
tweak it to your liking...
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Re: X Windows

2004-01-30 Thread Roop Nanuwa
I believe the command you're looking for is:
 XFree86 -configure
It will generate what it detects and put the config file under
/root/XF86Config.new
For myself, though, it never worked quite right and I always find myself
going back to the old command line interactive xf86config to create
my X config file.
--roop

Matt Juszczak wrote:

Hi all,

About 6 months ago, I was having trouble generating my X config file (so
that it would run in 800x600, etc. etc.).  The command line config would
work but I would never know my video card, etc.  Then someone told me a
utility to use that actually automatically detected my video card and
generated the config for me.  I don't believe I even had to install
anything extra Configurator? or something like that.  Any ideas?
Thanks!

-matt

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Re: X Windows

2004-01-30 Thread peter lageotakes

--- Matt Juszczak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 About 6 months ago, I was having trouble generating
 my X config file (so
 that it would run in 800x600, etc. etc.).  The
 command line config would
 work but I would never know my video card, etc. 
 Then someone told me a
 utility to use that actually automatically detected
 my video card and
 generated the config for me.  I don't believe I even
 had to install
 anything extra Configurator? or something like
 that.  Any ideas?
 
 Thanks!
 
 -matt
 
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Here is a quick and dirty way of getting your card
detected and getting x up fast. The command below will
build a skeleton file.

XFree86 -configure

Step 2: copy the file to /etc/X11 and remove the .new
extension.

cp XF86Config.new /etc/X11/XF86Config

Then either go into /stand/sysinstall and do a post
configuration setup. Select X server and use ncurses
based interface to edit your monitor and keyboard
settings.  Double check all the settings to make sure
they are correct.  Instead of going into
/stand/sysinstall you could actually use:
xf86cfg --textmode which is the same ncurses based
installer.  The advantage for myself is that almost
all possible tweaks and settings are set inside the
file for tuning at a later date.

You can go and use the same ncurses installer via
/stand/sysinstall but it wont add all the settings.

Just my 2 cents worth, hope it helps.

Pete

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Re: Install X windows in Free BSD 4.8 - Help required.

2003-11-13 Thread Verghese George
Hello, 
Thanks for the help.
I still have a problem starting up the X windows.
First of all the login screen for X windows still does not allow me to
get into the system. When I type my login name and password ,  the
screen goes blank and the login screen reappears after some time. If I
type C-A-F1, I can get into the command line mode. When I type startx on
command line, it fails. 
When remove /tmp/X0.lock and retry with startx, I can get into kde ( I
enabled KDE from the /stand/sysinstall mode. )

Is it not possible to get directly into X window screen or kde when
typing startx?
How can  I log  in from the login screen into X windows or kde?

I have given below the output from /var/log/XFree86.0.log 

XFree86 Version 4.3.0
Release Date: 27 February 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
Build Operating System: FreeBSD 4.8 i386 [ELF] 
Build Date: 23 March 2003
Before reporting problems, check http://www.XFree86.Org/
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Re: Install X windows in Free BSD 4.8 - Help required.

2003-11-13 Thread Chris Pressey
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:53:44 +1100
Verghese George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello, 
 Thanks for the help.
 I still have a problem starting up the X windows.
 First of all the login screen for X windows still does not allow me to
 get into the system. When I type my login name and password ,  the
 screen goes blank and the login screen reappears after some time.

I remember having this problem when starting out with XWindows too.
IIRC, it was because I had no ~/.xsession file.  (If the system was
supposed to automatically create one, it didn't, but maybe it just
doesn't do that...)

If this is the situation for you, you can log in on a text console and
create a sensible ~/.xsession file, e.g.

  # echo 'exec xterm'  ~/.xsession

Then try logging in through xdm.

If you already have a window manager installed, you can specify it
instead of 'xterm' there.  e.g. the last line in my ~/.xsession is

  exec blackbox

btw, a pretty good tutorial for ~/.xsession can be found at:

  http://www-ugrad.cs.colorado.edu/X/xsession.html

-Chris
(randomly answering ~/.xsession! regardless of the question, today :)
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Re: Install X windows in Free BSD 4.8 - Help required.

2003-11-13 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Verghese George [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 First of all the login screen for X windows still does not allow me to
 get into the system. When I type my login name and password ,  the
 screen goes blank and the login screen reappears after some time.

Sounds like you need to debug your .xsession file.

   If I
 type C-A-F1, I can get into the command line mode. When I type startx on
 command line, it fails. 

Well, sure; you're still running another X session on display 0, so
you can't start another one without giving it a different display to
use. 

 When remove /tmp/X0.lock and retry with startx, I can get into kde ( I
 enabled KDE from the /stand/sysinstall mode. )

Okay, that would get around the other session's lock.

 Is it not possible to get directly into X window screen or kde when
 typing startx?

Sure it is.  As long as you're not already running X.

 How can  I log  in from the login screen into X windows or kde?

Best guess is that you just need to fix your .xsession file.
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Re: mapping apps to keys in X Windows

2003-11-02 Thread John Oxley
On Sat 2003-11-01 (18:15), Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 Dru [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Does any know if there are any tools or configurable scripts that come
  with X that allow a user to map an application to a shortcut key? Or is one
  supposed to instead use their window manager or an application in the ports
  collection (such as xbindkeys).
 
 Traditionally, it has been a window manager issue.

If you install and run bbkeys from ports, and specify key bindings, it works
over all window managers I have tried.

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Re: Install X windows in Free BSD 4.8 - Help required.

2003-11-01 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Verghese George [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Can someone help me?
 
 I was trying to install X windows in my machine 
 The video card is shown as
 agp0 intel 82815 (i815) SVGA controller
 So modified the  /boot/loader.conf and inserted a line
 agp_load=YES 
 and rebooted the system to allow loading of the module
 I aos creted a agp device note 
 #cd /dev
 #sh MAKEDEV agpgart
 
 I used the  /stand/sysintall command and used a fully graphical
 interface for X server configuration.
 I used  a card mode  i810 815
 ver syn 50-100
 hor syn 31.5 - 57.0
 HF SVGA 1024 X 768 @ 70 Hz
 
 I modified the /etc/ttys file to change the X windows terminal  ttyp8 to
 on.
 
 It came up with an error that the X windows confiugration failed.
 When I rebooted the system, the X window screen came up. When  I entered
 the login name and password for root, nothing happened. The screen again
 came up.

Sounds like the X configuration (and xdm setup) is working fine.
Try logging in from a text console to make sure the accounts are set
up properly.  [You can get back to a text console from the xdm login
by typing C-A-Fx, where Fx is a function key between 1 and 8.]
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