Re: [Freedos-user] bsum - compute BSD checksums of your files

From: Mateusz Viste I have to clarify here that my intention was never to compete in any way with the other algorithms out there. The BSD checksum is a well-known, and pretty weak (16 bits) checksum. The goal behind bsum was only to obtain a checksum tool that would run on my 8086 fast enough for

Re: [Freedos-user] bsum - compute BSD checksums of your files

From: Mateusz Viste On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 02:52:06 +, Mateusz Viste wrote: > On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 17:07:30 -0500, Rugxulo wrote: >> Converting hex nibble to ASCII shouldn't need a jump at all. On the >> 8086 all jumps are very slow. Best to avoid them entirely if possible. >> Here you can easily

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS ideas with fast simple algorithms - was: BSUM BS

From: Eric Auer Hi Mateusz, > BSUM (by Mateusz Viste) : 6.0s (100%) > CRC32 (by Joe Forster) : 8.5s (70%) > MD5 (by Colin Plumb): 52.9s (11%) > SHA1 (by Colin Plumb) : 85.7s (7%) Entertaining :-) Still you need to find a good balance between speed and collision risk. If you

Re: [Freedos-user] bsum - compute BSD checksums of your files

From: Rugxulo Hi again, On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 00:56:17 -0500, Rugxulo wrote: >> >> It would be interesting to see some benchmark numbers for that (for >> various specific tools, 8086, 386, etc). > > Just for the fun of it, I did some quick m

Re: [Freedos-user] bsum - compute BSD checksums of your files

From: Rugxulo Hi, On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 9:52 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 17:07:30 -0500, Rugxulo wrote: > >> irrelevant "jz short ..." (when "short" conditional jump is always >> mandatory for "cpu 8086"). > > I don't think so. > Note that short means "8 bit jump" in this c

[Freedos-user] Brand NEW IBM PC AT + Model M! Unboxing & Setup[LGR] -

From: Rugxulo Before I totally forget ... there was this awesome video on YouTube by LazyGameReviews (about two weeks ago): "Brand NEW IBM PC AT + Model M! Unboxing & Setup [LGR]" https://youtu.be/nLy_jEbuY-U IBM PC AT 5170 (circa 1988), 286 (8 Mhz) w/ 512 kb RAM, EGA, 30 MB HDD, 1.2 MB floppy

[Freedos-user] reminder

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Re: [Freedos-user] bsum - compute BSD checksums of your files

From: Mateusz Viste On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 17:57:59 -0400, dmccunney wrote: > I have to ask. How many folks *have* platforms now it *wouldn't* run > on? I suspect the number is *very* small. Surely, yes. Still, a 700% memory increase for a 10% performance boost just doesn't feel right. I wrote bsu

Re: [Freedos-user] bsum - compute BSD checksums of your files

From: Mateusz Viste On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 23:30:35 -0500, Rugxulo wrote: > Unless I'm mistaken, conditional jumps on 8086 don't go beyond -128 .. > 127 (signed) byte range. Hence the billions of workarounds (TASM > "jumps", MASM "option ljmp", etc). I won't argue about what opcode is or is not ava

Re: [Freedos-user] bsum - compute BSD checksums of your files

From: Mateusz Viste On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 17:07:30 -0500, Rugxulo wrote: > Blair's (16-bit, FD) MD5SUM can do all of those hashes as well. Not sure > if it'd be faster, though. I believe that's the one I used. If I understand correctly, the original author is Colin Plumb, and Blair took the mainte

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS ideas with fast simple algorithms - was:BSUM BS

From: Mateusz Viste On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 23:21:26 +0200, Eric Auer wrote: > For checking if downloads worked without noise, I would already want > something "stronger" than BSUM, such as > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fletcher%27s_checksum As already stated in this thread a few times, the BSD

Re: [Freedos-user] bsum - compute BSD checksums of your files

From: dmccunney On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 9:36 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 00:56:17 -0500, Rugxulo wrote: > >> Splurge on the memory, give it 32 kb or so. It'll "probably" be faster >> with a bigger buffer. > > At the cost of reducing the number of platforms it would be able to

Re: [Freedos-user] bsum - compute BSD checksums of your files

From: Rugxulo Hi, On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 7:06 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > > That's nice of you to provide the explanation. I didn't read it > completely (too lazy), nor understand it fully (too stupid), but the > other clueless guy might find it interesting that he was only half wrong. Just to

Re: [Freedos-user] reminder

From: "Rinaldo Guelpa" Hello Bret, All I want to do , the reminder should remind me of a birthday eiter on the date or a few days ahead say 5 or 3 days ahead , just have it in my ..autoexec.bat file so on startup it will run and inform me of a person and the birthday. Best wishes Rinaldo. guelpa

Re: [Freedos-user] reminder

From: "John R. Sowden" today.exe by Patrick Kincaid. We use it every day. John On 04/10/2017 11:33 PM, Rinaldo Guelpa wrote: > Hi Friends, > I am looking for a simple reminder program in dos, can you please help. > Cheers > Rinaldo > guelpa...@telkomsa.net > > >

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS ideas with fast simple algorithms - was: BSUM BS

From: Rugxulo Hi, Eric, always good to hear from you, On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > >> BSUM (by Mateusz Viste) : 6.0s (100%) >> CRC32 (by Joe Forster) : 8.5s (70%) > >> MD5 (by Colin Plumb): 52.9s (11%) >> SHA1 (by Colin Plumb) : 85.7s (7%) > > Entertaining :-

Re: [Freedos-user] bsum - compute BSD checksums of your files

From: "Bret Johnson" > I double-checked, latest NDISASM still decodes as two separate instructions. A disassembler would not report two separate instructions unless the actual compiled code had two separate instructions. Every assembler/compiler I know of does little "tricks" to make the progra

Re: [Freedos-user] bsum - compute BSD checksums of your files

From: Tom Ehlert >>> Unless I'm mistaken, conditional jumps on 8086 don't go beyond -128 .. >>> 127 (signed) byte range. Hence the billions of workarounds (TASM >>> "jumps", MASM "option ljmp", etc). right. >> I won't argue about what opcode is or is not available on 8086, since I >> did not bot

Re: [Freedos-user] bsum - compute BSD checksums of your files

From: Mateusz Viste Hi Tom, That's nice of you to provide the explanation. I didn't read it completely (too lazy), nor understand it fully (too stupid), but the other clueless guy might find it interesting that he was only half wrong. At the end of the day, I will keep using "JZ SHORT" anyway,

Re: [Freedos-user] reminder

From: Bret "Reminder" program is kind of vague -- I think you'll need to provide a little more detail. There are programs (like my CLOCK program) that can just beep at you at certain times of the day, and there are actually full-fledged calendar/task management programs, and all kinds of things

Re: [Freedos-user] bsum - compute BSD checksums of your files

From: Mateusz Viste On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 02:03:54 -0500, Rugxulo wrote: > AFAIK, the longer one is 386+ only, hence not available with "cpu 8086". The above code assembles with "cpu 8086" (NASM 2.12.02). > Thus, if it still quietly assembles, that is a bug (but I thought that > was long-ago fixe

Re: [Freedos-user] bsum - compute BSD checksums of your files

From: Jerome Shidel Less than 256 bytes of code. Over 2 Megabytes of controversy. Shame on you Mateusz! :-) All joking aside, from what I gather, your bsum is only meant to verify local files were copied correctly from one machine to another. Most forms of checksums should be sufficient for t

Re: [Freedos-user] bsum - compute BSD checksums of your files

From: Rugxulo Hi, On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 2:03 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 22:24:56 -0500, Rugxulo wrote: > >> What disassembler are you using here? I erroneously thought it was NDISASM. > > I don't use ndisasm for a very trivial reason - I am unable to redirect > its output

Re: [Freedos-user] reminder

From: Don Flowers --===7955720573336150951== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c191e48ed5447054cf4b87f --94eb2c191e48ed5447054cf4b87f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I have two that I have installed, Broderbund Memory Mate and Brown Bag Software's PC-Outline

Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksums of yo

From: dmccunney On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > I see that someone on Ebay is selling an HP mini > with a FREEDOS os installed. All the HP minis that > I've seen have wifi & bluetooth built in. That would > mean an 802.11 client to do it. The ad doesn't > mention wifi o

[Freedos-user] EtherDFS v0.8.1

From: Mateusz Viste Hello group, Not that long ago I announced here a new software I have created, named EtherDFS. EtherDFS is an 'installable filesystem' TSR for DOS. It maps a drive from a remote computer (typically Linux-based) to a local drive letter, using raw ethernet frames to communicate

Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksumsof yo

From: Dale E Sterner Maybe the people who have produced the mini also wrote some software to make it useful. I like DOS I hope it moves foreward. Windows is so single PC oriented. I've tried moving windows to a twin PC - same everything and it somehow knew it was different and didn't want to run.

Re: [Freedos-user] reminder

From: Rugxulo Hi, On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 11:51 AM, Bret Johnson wrote: > > What you're wanting is pretty simple, so a full-blown calendar program is definitely overkill. > I think I've seen references to programs like what you want to do before, but I don't use any > of them myself and don't r

Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksums of yo

From: dmccunney On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > I installed win 7 on a laptop to see what it could do but not to use it. Where did you get the copy of Win7 you installed? > The laptop doesn't have an internet connection so had to use the > phone method.to Install it.

Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksumsof yo

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Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksumsof yo

From: Dale E Sterner I see that someone on Ebay is selling an HP mini with a FREEDOS os installed. All the HP minis that I've seen have wifi & bluetooth built in. That would mean an 802.11 client to do it. The ad doesn't mention wifi or bluetooth but every mini that I've seen has it. cheers DS

Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksums of yo

From: Rugxulo Hi, On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 3:58 PM, dmccunney wrote: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > >> I installed win 7 on a laptop to see what it could do but not to use it. >> I installed software that I bought to see what it would do on win 7. >> A lot of of mes

Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksumsof yo

From: Dale E Sterner With windows if your PC dies and you want to move to a dupicate and keep running - your out of luck. Windows ability to detect small changes is amazing - it just wants to stop. Win 7 is such a pain to deal with I think even DOS could beat it. Every time I install new software

Re: [Freedos-user] bsum - compute BSD checksums of your files

From: Mateusz Viste On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 04:39:35 -0500, Rugxulo wrote: > It worked fine (redirecting) for me yesterday! I can't imagine why it > wouldn't work for you. > > Oh, before I forget, are you perhaps invoking NDISASM via some .BAT? > Of course a .BAT doesn't really redirect (under FreeCO

Re: [Freedos-user] Brand NEW IBM PC AT + Model M! Unboxing & Setup [LGR

From: Corbin Davenport --===9146539503790060125== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11472176d84f77054d0669b7 --001a11472176d84f77054d0669b7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I saw this video a few days ago, the part when he opened an untouched Model M keyboard

Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksumsof yo

From: Mateusz Viste On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 10:37:44 -0400, Dale E Sterner wrote: > Would you or anyone else know if there is an 802.11 client for dos? > Never heard of one but you guys know alot more than I ever will. I don't think there is such thing as a "802.11 client" - it only depends whether

Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksums of yo

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Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS

From: Mateusz Viste On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 11:14:21 -0400, Dale E Sterner wrote: > I see that someone on Ebay is selling an HP mini with a FREEDOS os > installed. All the HP minis that I've seen have wifi & bluetooth built > in. That would mean an 802.11 client to do it. The ad doesn't mention > wif

Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksums of yo

From: dmccunney On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > With windows if your PC dies and you want to move > to a dupicate and keep running - your out of luck. Not really. Been there, done that. On my old, built-from components PC, I moved XP several times. I made changes to

Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksumsof yo

From: Dale E Sterner I have Qpro 5.6 but haven't used it yet. Still using version 3 The macros are powerful and a lot earier to use than Excel. Version 5.6 is said to have a solver built in like TK solver. One of these days I'll find out. cheers DS On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 02:35:08 + "Thomas

Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksumsof yo

From: "Thomas Mueller" > I find that your MS dos 7.1 has been doing a little better > than FREEDOS. Jemmex sometimes hangs up. > Corel made great DOS software. I use their Qpro > to do my taxes. I fill in the blanks and it calclates my tax. > cheers > DS I too used Borland Quattro Pro for DOS,

Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksums of yo

From: Karen Lewellen Granted I am not commenting on the exact post, too much to locate it exactly. still, speaking only for myself, I have continued to build upon and find dos solutions without having to change operating systems for almost 30 years now. My choice to think first about solution

Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksumsof yo

From: Dale E Sterner The packet driver link for dos come up FORBIDDEN. cheers DS On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 21:49:46 +0200 Ulrich Hansen writes: > Several years ago I wrote everything I could find out about DOS and > Wifi here: > > http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/WiFi > > If anybody finds out

Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksumsof yo

From: "Thomas Mueller" > I have Qpro 5.6 but haven't used it yet. Still using version 3 > The macros are powerful and a lot earier to use than > Excel. Version 5.6 is said to have a solver built in > like TK solver. One of these days I'll find out. > cheers > DS Last Qpro version for DOS was 5.

Re: [Freedos-user] Corel dos ebay thing

From: "Thomas Mueller" from Dale Sterner: > On Ebay I purchased a cd with unreleased Corel dos > software. There would have been a 5.6 version had it been > released. Some woman got it from a boyfriend who > worked for Corel and then sold it on Ebay for about $150. > I was high bid. Eric Auer:

Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksumsof yo

From: Dale E Sterner On Ebay I purchased a cd with unreleased Corel dos software. There would have been a 5.6 version had it been released. Some woman got it from a boyfriend who worked for Corel and then sold it on Ebay for about $150. I was high bid. cheers DS On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:10:45 +0

Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksumsof yo

From: Dale E Sterner I installed win 7 on a laptop to see what it could do but not to use it. The laptop doesn't have an internet connection so had to use the phone method.to Install it. I installed software that I bought to see what it would do on win 7. Alot of of message boxes came up giving

Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksums of yo

From: dmccunney On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > Microsoft has done such things deliberately. I had a Compaq server with dual > slot Xeon CPUs. XP (with a 1-2 CPU license) could be installed but no matter > what, was only going to be allowed to use ONE CPU. Manually forc

Re: [Freedos-user] Corel dos ebay thing

From: Eric Auer Hi Dale, is this actually a version of DOS? Or just an unreleased intermediate version of wordperfect? And of course, what is included? Which license? Cheers, Eric ps: you forgot to update the subject in your freedos-user mail, it still says "wifi on dos" --

Re: [Freedos-user] Quattro Pro releases (was: Corel dos...)

From: Felix Miata dmccunney composed on 2017-04-23 17:52 (UTC-0400): > Versions are frequently skipped when software is released. Remember > Dale said this was *unreleased* software. (I don't recall offhand > whether there was an actual Quattro 5.5 release.) QPro 5.5 was released by Novell. I

Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksums of yo

From: dmccunney On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 3:58 PM, dmccunney wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: >> >>> I installed win 7 on a laptop to see what it could do but not to use it. >>> I installed software that I bought t

Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksumsof yo

From: Dale E Sterner The win 7 was a 32 bit copy purchased on Amazon. The software was a dvd converter to convert dvds to mp4. It didn't work on XP so I wanted to try it on win 7; didn't work there either. The 1st activation was slow painful and successful. Win 7 gave warning about making changes

Re: [Freedos-user] Quattro Pro releases (was: Corel dos...)

From: Dale E Sterner Someone else who likes Qpro - ain't it great. cheers DS On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 18:16:10 -0400 Felix Miata writes: > dmccunney composed on 2017-04-23 17:52 (UTC-0400): > > > Versions are frequently skipped when software is released. > Remember > > Dale said this was *unrelea

Re: [Freedos-user] Corel dos ebay thing

From: Dale E Sterner It is pure dos abandoned when corel went to windows. Sounded like it came out of the trash can type. It is somewhat unfinished - a few nasty bugs but nothing to make it unusable. There was no documentation with it. Just a corel factory made cd. Its a pity they quit on it.

Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksums of yo

From: Dan Schmidt --===2885374890722544653== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113c05a850355e054de294d9 --001a113c05a850355e054de294d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Is this thread still about wireless for Dos? If not, sorry for posting. If so, I bought a

Re: [Freedos-user] *buntus (was: Corel dos eba...)

From: Felix Miata Dale E Sterner composed on 2017-04-24 14:03 (UTC-0400): > What is the difference between Lubuntu & Ubuntu. > What difference does the L make. Kubuntu - KDE http://distrowatch.com/kubuntu Lubuntu - LXDE http://distrowatch.com/lubuntu Ubuntu - Unity/Gnome http://distrowatch.com/

Re: [Freedos-user] Corel dos ebay thing

From: Ralf Quint On 4/24/2017 11:03 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > What is the difference between Lubuntu & Ubuntu. > What difference does the L make. The windows manager used... Ubuntu, as in the main distro, is using Gnome 3 as the default window manager (after they finally abandoned that stupid

Re: [Freedos-user] Corel dos ebay thing

From: dmccunney On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 11:47 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > I run my pure DOS on a CF chip and move it from one > machine to another on a cf chip. Try doing that with windows. You can't. Windows will detect it's on a new machine, and complain. But if you run Windows, that's not

Re: [Freedos-user] Corel dos ebay thing

From: "Thomas Mueller" from dmccunney: > On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > It seemed strange that a version of Quattro Pro following 5 would be 5.6 as opposed to 5.1 or 5.5. > Versions are frequently skipped when software is released. Remember > Dale said this was *u

Re: [Freedos-user] Corel dos ebay thing

From: dmccunney On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > For the most part dos moves well between machines. > Did have trouble with cutemouse & jemmex. On > some machines they hang up. So even DOS can be sensitive to hardware differences. :-p > What is the difference between L

Re: [Freedos-user] Corel dos ebay thing

From: dmccunney On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > I think there must have been a 5.5 otherwise you wouldn't > have a 5.6. As it happens, there was, as Felix Miata noted. But versions *can* be skipped by vendors. > I only use the wordperfect off the disk - yet. > Some

Re: [Freedos-user] Quattro Pro releases (was: Corel dos...)

From: dmccunney On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 6:16 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > dmccunney composed on 2017-04-23 17:52 (UTC-0400): > >> Versions are frequently skipped when software is released. Remember >> Dale said this was *unreleased* software. (I don't recall offhand >> whether there was an actual

Re: [Freedos-user] Corel dos ebay thing

From: Dale E Sterner I run my pure DOS on a CF chip and move it from one machine to another on a cf chip. Try doing that with windows. Running DOS on windows is like turning it into a parasite. cheers DS On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 11:29:06 -0400 dmccunney writes: > On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 11:06 AM,

Re: [Freedos-user] Corel dos ebay thing

From: Dale E Sterner thanks On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 11:23:17 -0700 Ralf Quint writes: > On 4/24/2017 11:03 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > > What is the difference between Lubuntu & Ubuntu. > > What difference does the L make. > The windows manager used... > > Ubuntu, as in the main distro, is using Gn

Re: [Freedos-user] EtherDFS v0.8.1

From: Mateusz Viste On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:11:25 -0400, Andy Stamp wrote: > I set up a Linux VM with a FAT32 partition for the server and was > playing with version 0.8.1 on my 486 and it was working great. Loaded > Lotus 123 right off the network (and faster than I expected). I'm glad it works

Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksumsof yo

From: Ulrich Hansen > Am 24.04.2017 um 07:07 schrieb Dan Schmidt : > > Is this thread still about wireless for Dos? If not, sorry for posting. > > If so, I bought a wireless to ethernet bridge - smaller than a deck of cards, runs on usb power - works great for my Dos machine. I tried a wifi ca

Re: [Freedos-user] Corel dos ebay thing

From: dmccunney On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 9:41 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > My experience with Gnumeric is favorable. There are differences in syntax and navigation with Quattro Pro for DOS. > > Quattro Pro three-dimensional spreadsheets are practically impossible to import, even Excel can't do t

Re: [Freedos-user] Quattro Pro releases

From: Felix Miata Thomas Mueller composed on 2017-04-25 02:07 (UTC): > I ran Quattro Pro through 5 in OS/2 Warp 3 and 4 until that final OS/2 crash > in the single-digit days of April 2001. > OS/2 froze, did not dismount cleanly. On reboot, CHKDSK, run automatically, > ran amok and trashed my

Re: [Freedos-user] Corel dos ebay thing

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Re: [Freedos-user] Quattro Pro (was: Corel dos eba...)

From: Felix Miata dmccunney composed on 2017-04-24 22:22 (UTC-0400): > Thomas Mueller wrote: >> My experience with Gnumeric is favorable. There are differences in syntax and navigation with Quattro Pro for DOS. >> Quattro Pro three-dimensional spreadsheets are practically impossible to import

Re: [Freedos-user] Corel dos ebay thing

From: Dale E Sterner For the most part dos moves well between machines. Did have trouble with cutemouse & jemmex. On some machines they hang up. What is the difference between Lubuntu & Ubuntu. What difference does the L make. cheers DS On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:29:26 -0400 dmccunney writes: >

Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksums of yo

From: Dan Schmidt --===8759580214405937345== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1140137c0b54bd054df6b1bf --001a1140137c0b54bd054df6b1bf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 That is a router, I can't guarantee it would work. (unless you put openwrt on it) However,

Re: [Freedos-user] Corel dos ebay thing

From: Dale E Sterner I think there must have been a 5.5 otherwise you wouldn't have a 5.6. I only use the wordperfect off the disk - yet. Some lady on the web sells a dos wordperfect update to 6.2 and I also bought that - Corel autherized. cheers DS On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 17:52:57 -0400 dmccunney

Re: [Freedos-user] Quattro Pro releases

From: "Thomas Mueller" from dmccunney: > dmccunney composed on 2017-04-23 17:52 (UTC-0400): > > Versions are frequently skipped when software is released. Remember > > Dale said this was *unreleased* software. (I don't recall offhand > > whether there was an actual Quattro 5.5 release.) > QP

Re: [Freedos-user] Corel dos ebay thing

From: dmccunney On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > It seemed strange that a version of Quattro Pro following 5 would be 5.6 as opposed to 5.1 or 5.5. Versions are frequently skipped when software is released. Remember Dale said this was *unreleased* software. (I don't r

Re: [Freedos-user] EtherDFS v0.8.1

From: Andy Stamp --===2563758283038139191== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c18fde04c45b6054df36822 --94eb2c18fde04c45b6054df36822 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Mateusz, I've been following your posts both here and on the VCF forum ( http://www.vcfed

Re: [Freedos-user] Corel dos ebay thing

From: dmccunney On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > On Monday, April 24, 2017, 9:29:48 AM MDT, dmccunney > wrote: > On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Dale E Sterner > wrote: >> I think there must have been a 5.5 otherwise you wouldn't >> have a 5.6. > >> The problem for bo

Re: [Freedos-user] Quattro Pro releases

From: Felix Miata Thomas Mueller composed on 2017-04-25 06:56 (UTC): > Felix Miata composed on 2017-04-24 23:07 (UTC-0400):... >> OS/2 needed the upgrade to MCP that eCS incorporated, and Dani's 506, DASD >> and ATAPI drivers to run on hardware that wasn't perfectly sync'd up to >> that in the P

Re: [Freedos-user] Quattro Pro releases

From: "Thomas Mueller" > Thomas Mueller composed on 2017-04-25 02:07 (UTC): > > I ran Quattro Pro through 5 in OS/2 Warp 3 and 4 until that final OS/2 crash > > in the single-digit days of April 2001. > > OS/2 froze, did not dismount cleanly. On reboot, CHKDSK, run automatically, > > ran amok

Re: [Freedos-user] Quattro Pro releases

From: dmccunney On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 11:07 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > eCS works much better than DesqView and QEMM ever did with "large" file I/O, > which is truly dismal in any DOS I ever seriously tried. And of course, eCS is > useful for other things. QPro is one of those apps where the be

Re: [Freedos-user] Quattro Pro releases

From: "Mikkel C. Simonsen" dmccunney wrote: > Only existing OS/2 users run OS/2 apps, I don't think *anyone* runs > Win 3.1 apps, I do, so there's at least one... PageMaker, CorelDRAW! and Photoshop is in regular use. And also more spezialised stuff like Keil -|Vision and some filter design too

Re: [Freedos-user] Corel dos ebay thing

From: Dale E Sterner none On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:40:27 + (UTC) Gregg Eshelman writes: > Any plan to share this find? :) > > > On Monday, April 24, 2017, 9:07:19 AM MDT, Dale E Sterner > wrote:It is pure dos abandoned when corel went > to windows. > Sounded like it came out of the trash can

Re: [Freedos-user] Quattro Pro releases

From: Felix Miata dmccunney composed on 2017-04-25 08:53 (UTC-0400): > Felix Miata composed on 2017-04-24 23:07 (UTC-0400): >> I was never able to figure out how to make any of >> the non-OS/2 DOS emulators do SVGA text modes, required to produce the 132 >> column text modes that make QPro so va

[Freedos-user] A few words about AOL and Yahoo

From: dmccunney On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > How busy are those eCS lists on Yahoogroups? Note that Verizon has acquired Yahoo and plans to rebrand it. It already owned AOL. It has informed Verizon email users that Verizon will no longer provide email services, an

Re: [Freedos-user] Using USB Mass Storage on FreeDOS

From: Eric Auer Hi Ercan, > After this, I won't use USBASPI on FreeDOS. > > How can I use a USB mass storage that is formatted > FAT16 or FAT32 on FreeDOS with USBDOS? as Thomas wrote: If you boot from USB drive or if the USB drive is already plugged in at boot time, the BIOS will often su

Re: [Freedos-user] A few words about AOL and Yahoo

From: Felix Miata dmccunney composed on 2017-04-25 22:29 (UTC-0400): > Verizon may keep Yahoo Groups active (but change the name as part of > the re-branding.) I hope it continues. A lot of useful help groups and archives will disappear if it does not. Before it became yahoogroups in 2001 it w

[Freedos-user] Using USB Mass Storage on FreeDOS

From: Ercan Ersoy Hello, I tried using my USB mass storage on Virtualbox 5.0.36. I using USBASPI.SYS and USBDOS programs. But, I don't use my mass storage. How can I using my mass storage on FreeDOS? Thanks and best regards, Ercan ---

Re: [Freedos-user] A few words about AOL and Yahoo

From: dmccunney On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:59 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > I have some @bellsouth.net inboxes/accounts from my days with bellsouth.net . > > I also have an AOL free email account. > > So I wonder how these will be affected. They shouldn't be affected at all. Bell South is not

Re: [Freedos-user] Using USB Mass Storage on FreeDOS

From: "Thomas Mueller" > Thanks for replying. > After this, I won't use USBASPI on FreeDOS. > How can I use a USB mass storage that is formatted FAT16 or FAT32 on > FreeDOS with USBDOS? > Best regards, > Ercan If your BIOS or UEFI recognizes USB mass storage, then FreeDOS should recognize it

Re: [Freedos-user] Using USB Mass Storage on FreeDOS

From: Ercan Ersoy > If your BIOS or UEFI recognizes USB mass storage, then FreeDOS should recognize > it if it is in place at boot time. > > I don't think FreeDOS can recognize a USB stick inserted after FreeDOS boots > and is active, but I could be wrong in the case of USBDOS. > > FAT16 is very

Re: [Freedos-user] A few words about AOL and Yahoo

From: dmccunney On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:54 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > All I can contribute to this discussion is that yahoogroups, many of them, > still exist. I am a member of several getting posts from them each day. I'm on several myself. The question is how long they will *continue* to

Re: [Freedos-user] Without DVD-ROM, USB working... install it from the

From: Rugxulo Hi, Coming back to this, this might not be exactly the solution to this one specific problem, but I still feel like I should mention it somewhere! On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Jerome Shidel wrote: > > On Mar 25, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Aleksei Ivan wrote: > > My USB ports are NOT

Re: [Freedos-user] A few words about AOL and Yahoo

From: "Thomas Mueller" from dmccunney: > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > How busy are those eCS lists on Yahoogroups? > Note that Verizon has acquired Yahoo and plans to rebrand it. It > already owned AOL. It has informed Verizon email users that Verizon > will no l

Re: [Freedos-user] A few words about AOL and Yahoo

From: Karen Lewellen All I can contribute to this discussion is that yahoogroups, many of them, still exist. I am a member of several getting posts from them each day. However, I do not subscribe using either a yahoo or aol e-mail, and never had one from Verizon. those I know with yahoo e-mails

Re: [Freedos-user] Using USB Mass Storage on FreeDOS

From: Ercan Ersoy Thanks for replying. After this, I won't use USBASPI on FreeDOS. How can I use a USB mass storage that is formatted FAT16 or FAT32 on FreeDOS with USBDOS? Best regards, Ercan -- Check out the vibrant

Re: [Freedos-user] Using USB Mass Storage on FreeDOS

From: "Thomas Mueller" On USBASPI and USBDOS, I had zero luck. But on a newer computer where USB drives are recognized by BIOS or UEFI, FreeDOS can boot from USB stick. Also, FreeDOS can access any USB stick with FAT32 if present at boot time. FreeDOS did not recognize a USB stick inserted aft

Re: [Freedos-user] Using USB Mass Storage on FreeDOS

From: Rugxulo Hi, On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Ercan Ersoy wrote: > > I tried using my USB mass storage on Virtualbox 5.0.36. You mean "pass-through" or whatever, using native hardware under VM? Doubt VBox supports that for DOS guests (since they don't have any guest additions for DOS, la

Re: [Freedos-user] Quattro Pro releases

From: "Thomas Mueller" > > Felix Miata composed on 2017-04-24 23:07 (UTC-0400):... > >> OS/2 needed the upgrade to MCP that eCS incorporated, and Dani's 506, DASD > >> and ATAPI drivers to run on hardware that wasn't perfectly sync'd up to > >> that in the PC hardware IBM was selling, or even whe

Re: [Freedos-user] eComStation on yahoogroups (was: Quattro Pro release

From: Felix Miata Thomas Mueller composed on 2017-04-25 21:04 (UTC): >> ecs-techni...@yahoogroups.com >> ecomstat...@yahoogroups.com > How busy are those eCS lists on Yahoogroups? https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/eComStation/info The former: 20 messages April, 0 March, 29 February, 30 Janua

Re: [Freedos-user] A few words about AOL and Yahoo

From: Jim Hall While AOL and Yahoo are interesting topics, they aren't related to FreeDOS. We seem to be on a tangent, here. Can this discussion get moved off the FreeDOS list? -- Check out the vibrant tech community on

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