Re: [FRIAM] random v stochastic v indeterminate

2017-08-22 Thread Robert Wall
Nick, "Natural selection can /preserve/ innovations, but it cannot create them." and "The idea of evolution groping blindly through morphology space is absurd." Not trying to get into a tussle with you, 😊 but Jeremy England would t

Re: [FRIAM] Truth: “Hunh! What is it good for? Absolutely Nothing!”

2017-10-15 Thread Robert Wall
Steven writes: What of examples of *convergent evolution* where similar structures (with > similar form and function) appear to arise independently. I would not > claim that they all arise **from the same theory** (or that anything > "arises" from theory) but rather that the same theoretical abs

Re: [FRIAM] Proofs of God?

2017-10-15 Thread Robert Wall
John writes: Buddhism does not require a belief in God. Nor does science. The Abrahamic God is akin to--perhaps even derived from--the concept of the *Logos *of Heraclitus . In this context, the concept may even be belie

Re: [FRIAM] KRACK

2017-10-17 Thread Robert Wall
Thanks for the heads-up, Glen! On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 8:55 AM, ┣glen┫ wrote: > Key Reinstallation Attacks > Breaking WPA2 by forcing nonce reuse > https://www.krackattacks.com/ > > > We discovered serious weaknesses in WPA2, a protocol that secures all > modern protected Wi-Fi networks. An atta

[FRIAM] Opportunity to join a discussion about Charles Sanders Peirce

2017-10-25 Thread Robert Wall
FYI. The* Santa Fe Philosophical Society* is offering a discussion session on Charles Sanders Peirce on Sunday, November 12, 2017, 2:00 PM to 4:00 PM. Nick, if you are in town, the group would definitely be

Re: [FRIAM] Opportunity to join a discussion about Charles Sanders Peirce

2017-10-26 Thread Robert Wall
to meeting you. > > > > Nick > > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > > Clark University > > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > > *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Be

Re: [FRIAM] Opportunity to join a discussion about Charles Sanders Peirce

2017-10-26 Thread Robert Wall
Oh; you already signed up, Nick! Very cool! 😎 On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 7:00 PM, Robert Wall wrote: > Hi Nick, > > No worries. I am happy to tell you et al. a bit more about the *Santa Fe > Philosophical Society* that wouldn't be apparent from the website. I have > been a

Re: [FRIAM] Opportunity to join a discussion about Charles Sanders Peirce

2017-10-27 Thread Robert Wall
me honest. Perhaps the group has one. > > > > Thanks again for getting in touch. > > > > Nick > > > > > > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > > Clark University > > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickth

Re: [FRIAM] Opportunity to join a discussion about Charles Sanders Peirce

2017-10-29 Thread Robert Wall
you at today’s meeting; hope you become a regular. > > > > I will “lard” your text below with my responses. > > > > Nick > > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > > Clark University > > http://home.earthlink

Re: [FRIAM] Opportunity to join a discussion about Charles Sanders Peirce

2017-11-03 Thread Robert Wall
lly > in their ability to "maintain themselves as constant source of light and > heat", despite the high entropy bath in which they sit. So, when > considering things like cosmological constants and how they seem "tuned for > life" (e.g. [⛧]), it's important to av

Re: [FRIAM] Opportunity to join a discussion about Charles Sanders Peirce

2017-11-06 Thread Robert Wall
Glen, I think Carl is referring to my earlier remark about String Theory. He is not alone in attacking Popper because Popper's idea concerning falsifiability and a "true" scientific theory stand in the way of just accepting a proposed theory base just on their mathematical elegance. I, myself, hope

Re: [FRIAM] Opportunity to join a discussion about Charles Sanders Peirce

2017-11-07 Thread Robert Wall
on, Nov 6, 2017 at 1:20 PM, gⅼеɳ ☣ wrote: > Excellent! Yes, complement is a much more appropriate relation between > the ideas than compete, I think. Thanks. > > On 11/06/2017 11:08 AM, Robert Wall wrote: > > > > Actually, I think I said that Smolin's idea "compe

Re: [FRIAM] Oh, Gawd!

2018-02-11 Thread Robert Wall
Why not just rebuild it? I'd be willing to help. sounds like a very noble cause ... On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:58 PM, Gary Schiltz wrote: > There are many options, open source and commercial. I’ve used > http://ricks-apps.com/osx/sitesucker/index.html on macOS, but haven’t > tried it on the way

Re: [FRIAM] Subject: Re: Friam Digest, Vol 180, Issue 3

2018-06-06 Thread Robert Wall
> It seems silly to say that one would democratize elite bicycle racing. This reminds me of Kurt Vonnegut's satirical and dystopian science-fiction short story *Harrison Bergeron * (1961). 😊 Full text

Re: [FRIAM] looking for a word

2018-08-17 Thread Robert Wall
Here's a paper (2010) that describes a hub attraction dynamical growth model (HADGM) that exhibits fractal and probabilistic behavior for forming nodes in a complex network. But you are looking for a descriptive word or phrase. Perhaps, "dynamic growth models

Re: [FRIAM] looking for a word

2018-08-17 Thread Robert Wall
Glen, I believe what you are trying to achieve is what we used to call "face validity." To achieve accreditation among the domain experts, the model had to appeal on an empathic level or it was toast. This was not easy to do at the program level (DAG?) but easier to do a higher level of abstracte

Re: [FRIAM] Static Site Generator

2015-10-11 Thread Robert Wall
tent-management/> called Kirby <http://getkirby.com/>. It is file-based and very easy to implement just about anything you want to do on an individual personal website. You can also experiment locally with Kirby (without a host) on MAMP, XAMPP and PHP's built-in server for local install

Re: [FRIAM] Undark: Why Science Journalism Matters

2016-03-19 Thread Robert Wall
Thanks, Tom. Great article on the importance of science journalism! But, what else would you expect from Deborah Blum. Also, a welcomed introduction to the UnDark digital publication. I have it bookmarked. Carl Zimmer, Rebecca Skloot, David Corcoran ... nothing but good stuff. Cheers, Robert

Re: [FRIAM] mass surveillance

2016-03-29 Thread Robert Wall
Following on to Dave's thoughts on the relationship between anonymity and freedom to express non-conforming opinions or behaviors, we can liken those vehicles with totally blackened windows that allow some of their drivers to have their basic, innate rudeness travel with them with impunity and anon

Re: [FRIAM] Origins of Life

2016-04-26 Thread Robert Wall
Stephen, Your discussion with Nick Thompson on the essence of Evolution sounds remarkably similar to the pre-Socratic arguments "between" Heraclitus and Parmenides on Being and Becoming . The modern version

Re: [FRIAM] Friam Digest, Vol 154, Issue 18

2016-04-26 Thread Robert Wall
Nick, I have worried about the loss of my data as well and have searched for an economical solution. For me, losing a device (e.g., by a crash or by theft) is not nearly as critical a loss as losing my data. Hardware can be replaced. Lost data, likely, cannot. But losing a hard drive also means

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Introducing The Systems Thinker: 800+ insightful articles completely free

2016-05-07 Thread Robert Wall
Looks good Tom. Thanks. Right in my wheelhouse ... again! -Robert On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Tom Johnson wrote: > Does seem to really be free. > TJ > > > Tom Johnson > Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA > 505.577.6482(

Re: [FRIAM] Strawson on consciousness.

2016-05-17 Thread Robert Wall
Hi Russ, Steve, et al., I should tell you that I am reading John Horgan's *The End of Science: Facing the Limits of Knowledge in the Twilight of the Scientific Age* (2015 edition). Such an ominous title! I know. But here Horgan concludes for many scientific endeavors the job is finished [link t

Re: [FRIAM] Strawson on consciousness.

2016-05-18 Thread Robert Wall
? 🤔 Robert On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:43 AM, glen ⛧ wrote: > > Is there any chance you might remember where you read that argument? I'll > do some googling; but that can be pretty haphazard. > > On 05/17/2016 02:43 PM, Robert Wall wrote: > > There was a thought-pr

Re: [FRIAM] Strawson on consciousness.

2016-05-18 Thread Robert Wall
amendment. > > Anyway, arguments like this are why so many scientists think little of > Horgan. His arguments are rife with over simplification. Yahoos like Mike > Adams <http://www.naturalnews.com/About.html> use similar rhetoric, which > is unfortunate for relatively authentic people like Ho

Re: [FRIAM] Strawson on consciousness.

2016-05-18 Thread Robert Wall
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 6:34 PM, glen ⛧ wrote: > > I'm that way, too. To wit, I really enjoyed this article: > > > http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/john-horgan-is-skeptical-of-skeptics/ > > On 05/18/2016 05:13 PM, Robert Wall wrote: > >> Personally,

Re: [FRIAM] Strawson on consciousness.

2016-05-20 Thread Robert Wall
This is just kicking a dead scorpion ... 😁 Thanks Glen for the follow-up. The whole curfuffle brings critical thinking to the forefront, and that ain't bad. To me, skepticism is a science-oriented version of mindfulness--being mindful of misgrounded or ungrounded, inculcated beliefs. Yes, it do

Re: [FRIAM] Strawson on consciousness.

2016-05-20 Thread Robert Wall
rs. Not sure. But, his book was a go-to reference for my work ... I especially used it for variance reduction when comparing alternatives, for example. Good stuff! Like a brain ravaged boxer, makes me want to come out of retirement ... again. 😎 On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 11:19 AM, glen ep ropel

Re: [FRIAM] Fascinating article on how AI is driving change in SEO, categories of AI and the Law of Accelerating Returns

2016-06-05 Thread Robert Wall
Hi Tom, Interesting article about Google and their foray [actually a Blitzkrieg, as they are buying up all of the brain trust in this area] into the world of machine learning presumably to improve the search customer experience. Could their efforts actually have unintended consequences for both th

Re: [FRIAM] Fascinating article on how AI is driving change in SEO, categories of AI and the Law of Accelerating Returns

2016-06-06 Thread Robert Wall
Getting back to Tom's original theme about how AI is driving change, let's examine that further, but now integrating in some of the other thoughts in this thread such as: on the hegemonic nature of AI-- proprietary or open source; or the societal impact of AI on the workforce--requisite skills incr

Re: [FRIAM] Fascinating article on how AI is driving change in SEO, categories of AI and the Law of Accelerating Returns

2016-06-06 Thread Robert Wall
even nicely-packaged cybernetic > enhancements for emergency `soul preservation’ or high-speed > communication. Humans are good at ignoring suffering outside of their > tribe, and this would just be a new kind of social stratification. Don’t > need Skynet, just an incentive structur

Re: [FRIAM] Understanding you-folks

2016-07-06 Thread Robert Wall
> > Many would argue (eg Seth Llloyd > http://www.nature.com/news/2002/020603/full/news020527-16.html) that > *any* process that involves changes of state is computation. Can you name a > "procedure for arriving at answers" that doesn't involve a series of > processes that change state? That pret

Re: [FRIAM] Understanding you-folks

2016-07-06 Thread Robert Wall
e=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiZj5GTzt_NAhUY82MKHTqlBxEQFgghMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.umsl.edu%2F~piccininig%2FComputation_vs_Information_Processing.pdf&usg=AFQjCNFl90aR_HXyTP2W9G2jK-yvrwKvNw&sig2=dp-Jj-FYpQn9fwPvCe-fLw> (2010)" -R On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Robert Wall wrote:

Re: [FRIAM] Understanding you-folks

2016-07-06 Thread Robert Wall
Hi Robert Cordingley, I thought your follow-up question--about analog computing--to Nick's is an intriguing one, especially in the context of the definition for computing that Steven brought. Solving a set of differential equations certainly leads to an answer, though not necessarily to a discrete

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Re: Understanding you-folks

2016-07-08 Thread Robert Wall
Yikes! Sorry Stephen for misspelling your name, but at least I did it consistently. 😕 - Rebort On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > Sorry, > > It took me a bit to realize that I was the OP. > > This has been tremendously useful for me, because it has given me a sense > of wha

[FRIAM] FREE Book - Beyond Connecting the Dots

2016-08-12 Thread Robert Wall
I just was notified about this interactive book that promotes systems thinking and modeling. It is titled *Beyond Connecting the Dots: Modeling For Meaningful Results* . The book used to sell for about $10, but now, for some reason, it is being offered as FREE

Re: [FRIAM] Hope?

2016-10-03 Thread Robert Wall
Thanks, Glen. Quite interesting. This simulation ensemble conducted by *FiveThirtyEight *gives some plausibility to New Mexico becoming the new Florida with Gary Johnson--not Jill Stein--playing the part of Ralph Nader. It also gives some non-zero plausibility to Gary Johnson becoming the next P

Re: [FRIAM] Hope?

2016-10-03 Thread Robert Wall
gt; > Frank > > Frank Wimberly > Phone (505) 670-9918 > > On Oct 3, 2016 5:05 PM, "Robert Wall" wrote: > >> Thanks, Glen. Quite interesting. >> >> This simulation ensemble conducted by *FiveThirtyEight *gives some >> plausibility to New Me

Re: [FRIAM] Hope?

2016-10-03 Thread Robert Wall
f your language biases what > you do/can understand. > > On 10/03/2016 04:21 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > >> Gary Johnson is not plausible. Didn't 538 say his odds were 2 in 100? >> >> On Oct 3, 2016 5:05 PM, "Robert Wall" wrote: >> >> >>&g

Re: [FRIAM] enablors vs disruptors

2016-10-17 Thread Robert Wall
Hi Nick, I think this fellow would agree with you: Technology: Enabler versus Disruptor . It is not the business model that is necessarily disrupted, but the way that the model is executed through the use of emerging

Re: [FRIAM] enablors vs disruptors

2016-10-21 Thread Robert Wall
So, perhaps, rather than thinking of enablers and disrupters as alternative predicate adjectives describing new technological innovations brought to market, let's think of the former as the subject of a simple sentence with a prepositional phrase and the latter as the object of the same sentence, s

Re: [FRIAM] Unix Nightmare

2016-10-21 Thread Robert Wall
> “Once upon a time, I dreamt I was a Unix programmer, fluttering hither and > thither, to all intents and purposes a Unix programmer. I was conscious > only of my happiness as a Unix programmer, unaware that I was myself. Soon > I awaked, and there I was, veritably myself again. Now I do not know

Re: [FRIAM] Eric's book link: The Origin and Nature of Life on Earth: The Emergence of the Fourth Geosphere

2016-10-23 Thread Robert Wall
Steve, yes, thanks for this heads up about the arrival of Eric's and Harold Morowitz' book. I have been intrigued about and anticipating this book's arrival ever since watching those videos you shared with the forum last April presenting Eric's talk at the Aspen Institute on the (chemical) origins

Re: [FRIAM] Model of induction

2016-12-12 Thread Robert Wall
Eric, (I am ending many sentences with prepositions; apologies.) Modern language usage manuals, for example,* Garner's Modern American Usage* [2009: 3rd Edition, page 654], advise that you no longer have to worry about ending a sentence with a preposition. As Winston Churchill once quipped when

Re: [FRIAM] probability vs. statistics (was Re: Model of induction)

2016-12-13 Thread Robert Wall
Hi Glen, I feel a bit like Nick says he feels when immersed in the stream of such erudite responses to each of your seemingly related, but thread-separated questions. As always, though, when reading the posted responses in this forum, I learn a lot from the various and remarkable ways questions c

Re: [FRIAM] probability vs. statistics (was Re: Model of induction)

2016-12-14 Thread Robert Wall
Hi Glen, et al, Thanks for cashing mu $0.02 check. :-) When I wrote that "but it doesn't have to be" I wasn't asserting that probability theory is devoid of events. Events are fundamental to probability theory. They are the outcomes to which probability is assigned. In a nutshell, the practice

Re: [FRIAM] probability vs. statistics (was Re: Model of induction)

2016-12-14 Thread Robert Wall
Glen, Okay, given some of the later postings against the original question, I am thinking that your question may have morphed or that I have completely misunderstood what you are asking. Not sure. For example, somehow we have gone from probability theory and its ontological status to the Banach-Ta

Re: [FRIAM] probability vs. statistics (was Re: Model of induction)

2016-12-14 Thread Robert Wall
Hey Glen, Yes, on the first issue with respect to the Axiom of Choice, I think the word "choice" there does not map one-for-one to the same word used in probability theory. I think the two concepts are mutually exclusive, but this may be beyond my "pay grade" to worry or talk about. 🤐 However, I

Re: [FRIAM] scraping a web site

2017-01-04 Thread Robert Wall
Nick, A lot of good ideas here. I will just add one more. For what you are doing, from what I can tell, you may do well with a so-called non-database Content Management System like Kirby . There are scores of these out there now

Re: [FRIAM] Cold War Jitters Resurface as U.S. Marines Arrive in Norway - The New York Times

2017-01-17 Thread Robert Wall
Yeah, by provoking the Russians it seems Obama is trying to "salt the earth" for the next administration. A so-called Parthian shot at those that threaten to throw his "legacy" under the bus. No, Owen, it makes no sense, but it will fuel the post-elec

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-19 Thread Robert Wall
xcept perhaps for > some professors who are in that world for most of their adult life. > > > I would say neoliberalism is trying to engineer biased coins that land in > a coordinated ways to build something more complex. One way is with trade > laws. > > > Marcus > > >

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-19 Thread Robert Wall
an swoop down with his kleptocrat > friends and do god knows what.. > > > Marcus > -- > *From:* Friam on behalf of Robert Wall < > wallrobe...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, January 19, 2017 4:57:14 PM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexi

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-19 Thread Robert Wall
thrilled with outlets that try to > be all things to all people. Really we need a reporters that act more > like intelligence agents. Like diplomatic immunity or similar. > > > -- > *From:* Friam on behalf of Robert Wall < > wallrobe...@gmail.

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-20 Thread Robert Wall
perhaps for > some professors who are in that world for most of their adult life. > > > I would say neoliberalism is trying to engineer biased coins that land in > a coordinated ways to build something more complex. One way is with trade > laws. > > > Marcus > &

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-20 Thread Robert Wall
> > Without millions of dollars of cash flow, there can’t be professional > investigators. Not so. Not at all. There are several Internet-based, often donation-dependent (I donate to several), news and opinion outlets that do very good, in-depth investigative journalism Take a look at Greg Pala

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-21 Thread Robert Wall
rgence as an amplification of luck in the form of initial conditions, > choosing the right abstraction of mechanism gets at how the amplifier works. > > If there is an argument for a particular structure of taxation, which is a > social institution, it could stem not even from an abstr

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-21 Thread Robert Wall
Hi Marcus, All good thoughts. Thanks! Just a few things hopefully that can constructively add to the discussion ... There is research in this area. The kind of "rebooting" I am thinking about in this context would not be chemically or surgically induced. It would be a Hebbian-oriented *menta

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-22 Thread Robert Wall
Marcus, I am not sure but you may have the wrong impression of employee-owned worker cooperatives. Of course, they have structure and management and decision-making processes just like capitalist-owned companies. Even *Forbes *think they are a good idea: If Apple Were A Worker Cooperative, Each E

Re: [FRIAM] Narcissism Again

2017-01-26 Thread Robert Wall
Actually, I think the author, Richard Willmsen, got it right, Frank. I am seeing more of these predictions of a meltdown ... the following linked *CounterPunch *article says he is going to have a lot of help in the process ... Also, I think Paul Street has this same thought completely right in hi

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-21 Thread Robert Wall
Hi Glen, What you describe as *flow* or being *in the zone* has been precisely written and talked about by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi as the Optimal

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-22 Thread Robert Wall
quasi-church may be others lurking in the shadows. > > > > I admit to being a rather visual thinker so data visualization is my hobby > now. And understanding Normal People, since they are so many... > > Perhaps this is not exactly the correct thread but miss the song of

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-24 Thread Robert Wall
on of Occam's razor seems appropriate, your > assertion (similarities in the low dimension space are caused by > similarities in the high dimension space) is not the simplest explanation > at all. The simplest explanation is the one identified in that paper about > the fractal dime

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-24 Thread Robert Wall
t; > And to be clear that we're still on topic, whether or not the fractality > of birds' songs is or can be related to the fractality of their landscapes > is a question about the soundness of P=>Q and how/whether the similarity of > bird brains can be established. > >

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-24 Thread Robert Wall
ectives in this discussion. I, nor Csikszentmihalyi, will annoy you no further ... On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:48 PM, glen ☣ wrote: > > OK. Yes, thanks, that helps. But I do think you disagree with me, only I > may not have made myself clear enough for you to realize we disagree. I&

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-25 Thread Robert Wall
G! 😀😜 New day... On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 8:30 AM ┣glen┫ wrote: > Oops. I'm sorry if I've offended you. I am contrarian and tend to seek > out areas of disagreement, rather than agreement. > > On 02/24/2017 07:14 PM, Robert Wall wrote: > > The "as if"

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-25 Thread Robert Wall
aybe it's a start ... tip-toe .. tip-toe ... [image: Inline image 1] Cheers On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 8:29 AM, ┣glen┫ wrote: > Oops. I'm sorry if I've offended you. I am contrarian and tend to seek > out areas of disagreement, rather than agreement. > > On 02/24/2017 07

Re: [FRIAM] Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-28 Thread Robert Wall
This less than 5-minute video seems visually helpful in the context of what Jon accomplished last night: Takens' theorem in action for the Lorenz chaotic attractor . This video provides some idea of what emerges from the manifold in terms of the time se